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Jason Smith and Mike Harmon tell you what a football game and a giant New Jersey mall have in common. Caitlin Clark isn't in the WNBA 3-point contest because there's no "win" for her. And the guys debate how much longer Tiger Woods will play. Plus, a visit from our NFL Insider Jason Cole!

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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(00:51):
We've got the WNBA having their Big Skills Night. Oh yeah,
select game going on right now, the three Point Challenge
that Caitlin Clark decided to not be a part of.
We have WNBA at the Break. Mike Carman, if I
had told you three months ago, the WNBA at the
All Star Break would be a top flight story. You'd
have told me I was crazy, But here we are.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, we saw the uh stawed brewing for a couple
of months of how big things are gonna be, and
the numbers have born and out. So here we get
and I'm watching the three on three competition as we speak.
Lots of people vexed over inclusion, exclusion in the the

(01:32):
pageantry of it all. I mean, it's kind of a
big deal here as we get ready for the second
half of the baseball season.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Now, if you want something, yeah, because we have. We
have big stuff with Caitlin Clark. We got big stuff
second half of Major League Baseball. We got big stuff
with Tiger Woods who missed the cut at the Open
Channa run. But this is Friday, right, So Friday Friday,
you know, got a different feel on a Friday, right,
different field. I there's not many boys, I'll tell you,

(02:00):
for doing sports as long as I have and long
as you and I have, we go to some sporting
events live that are great. You know, we do a
lot of you know, we cover the restroom, from the
from the studio. Here. There's not a lot of events
where I go, oh my god, I wish I could
be there to see that. Obviously, you wish you were
at the Super Bowl or the World Series something like that,
but not always right because you know, you like being

(02:20):
at home. You like the view you get from some place.
I'm watching it on TV. This is pretty fun.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
This.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I got a good place here. You know. Maybe I
gotta go to the bathroom a couple of times. Easy
me to get up, go right back in. I want
to make a sandwich. However, this Friday night, Billings beat
Albany in the AFL Arena Bowl Championship game. Why are
we talking about this? Wait a minute, Arena Bowl Billings, Yes, Billings, Montana, Albany,

(02:49):
New York.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
The Albany Empire, Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
The Empire right the Capitol, the Capitol. Billings beat Albany
in the Arena Bowl Championship game. Okay, why why this
is a big deal?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
What?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Because the game was played inside the American Dream Mall
in New Jersey, named after Dusty Rhodes. And by that,
and by that, I mean it was actually inside the mall,
like they cleared out the ground level of the mall
to put in a football field and people are standing

(03:24):
around the field watching where they are right outside of stores,
like you could walk outside of an H and M
walk about five or seven feet instead of being in
the middle of the concourse of an indoor mall. You
are watching a football game. Like seeing it all it's
just stunning to me. I mean, it's this is a game.

(03:44):
And look for a guy who went to see his
hockey team played inside a mall, this is still a
little bit different. There's people up on the second rows
of the mall, like you could walk out of a
store and stand on the edge, put your hands on
the on the top of the glass and just watch
the arena Bowl three. The game is actually inside the
mall where they made the field out of the mall.

(04:05):
I hope Tiffany sang the national anthem for this, because
she was big in malls, came up in malls in
the eighties. It's how she got famous. Hopefully she sang
the national anthem before this game they played inside the mall.
And watching the highlights and watching people go through this
on you know, on on on social media. I am
I'm seeing people walking down like they're walking out of
a store and walking Oh there's a football game going

(04:27):
on it.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
When I bought some stuff at hot topic. I got
the latest exclusive funk go uh, And then I stopped
into Spenser's that's a bag you can't look into. And
now I got a cinnemon. As I stand here and
watch this kickoff return, Let's go.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I mean, I know there was actually a controversy whether
or not the mall was gonna host the game. I
think the the the commissioner of the Arena Football League
got fired a few weeks ago, or there's some kind
of craziness going on with this. But you are seeing
out in a mall you were able to watch a game.
I mean really, it's it's unbelievable. And it looks like

(05:01):
a great mall, like I mean, I've never been to
the American Mall in in a great American mall, American
Dream Wall in New Jersey, never been there, but it
looks like a great mall and it looks like something
that Wow. All right, I know how you end up
playing there, you know.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
How you end up playing in them all? Hard times,
hard times. Jason Smith for the iron worker, for the
guy down at the docks.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I'll tell you just this vision of the Arena Ball
where they say, you know, one day we're gonna play
our championship game in a place called the mall. No, yes,
dare to dream. We're gonna be at the mall playing
our championship game and people are gonna watch. We're gonna
get maybe one hundred people to want to watch this thing.
They're gonna they're gonna ring the sides of the field,

(05:47):
and we're gonna be on a local, potentially regional cable
channel in this case CBS Sports Network, and people are
gonna watch us playing them all. It is going to
be glorious.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Oh, it's a beautiful thing. I mean because think about
it and if you had some bets laid down and
you're that close to the action in the mall, double down.
I'm not having a drink. No, I got a nice
big orange Julius getting it.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
I'm coming out of Jay Timothy's and I'm gonna walk
in here. Apparently they called the game the Brawl at
the Mall.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
See like it had a thing County Alive on Friday Night,
live on paper.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Like I see this as I go, I really wanted
to see this because honestly, yes, I mean, this is
so embarrassing, but this was my team, like the Whalers
before they moved to Carolina for the Hurricanes. They played
in the mall. They played in the Hartford Civic Center mall,
and it was you, but it wasn't. It wasn't quite
like the visual of this. Like you walked in and
it was a big circle. Right, it was a big circle.

(06:44):
And you walked in and it was an indoor mall,
and it looked like an indoor mall. You like, you parked,
you walked inside, and all around the outside were stores, right,
there were no stores on the on the right side
was like a big oval almost like a almost like
it like a like a like a NASCAR track because
you could only go in. You didn't go into the
middle because that's where the hockey rink was. But all

(07:06):
on the outside were all these stores and it was
Starter and H and M and all these different things.
But if you just walked into the mall and you
walked like fifteen feet, that was where the arena was.
So you walked into the mall, whatever entrance you walked into,
you can come in. You could shop, or you could
walk another twenty feet and go into the entrance and

(07:28):
you walk into the mall and you go down and
that's where the arena was so it was the ice
was in the middle of the mall, and then outside,
ringing around it was all the stores. Now you couldn't
tell from the outside what it was. It was just, oh,
that's the Hertford Civic Center. No, no, no, big mall, big mall.
And then inside of it was the arena.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
No.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I dig it, man, I think we need more events
like this. It's like we'd play on the aircraft carriers
and everything else. Let's do a mall tour.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
We need more events in the mall. We need more
events in a mall.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
We might be able to revive the malls that are
dying left and right. You know, any malls you go into,
like the one down by me, the most money they
make is by having some half assed circus take over
the parking lot, a bunch of carnies move in for
a week or two. That's how they're getting more traffic
and more people coming to those shops than anything else

(08:25):
they got going. That in a red robin that's about
all they got going on that side of the mall.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, I uh, you know, I I see this and
I'm thinking, okay, you know, great, because the mall's becoming
a place where people don't go that off anymore, shopping online, everything.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Else except for the speed walkers in the morning soon.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
As yeah, yeah, yeah, you know how much must that
really piss off people in the mall going? You know,
I gotta worry about my job, and we get we
get people coming in here where the doors open at
eight thirty, not to buy anything, but just to walk
with their squeaky white sneakers all the way around. We're
gonna go up top, we're gonna go down the bottom.
Maybe we're gonna get a call at the end, and

(09:00):
then we're gonna go. Like I mean, alexaid, how about
you know, you walk around, you walk into a store.
How about your speed walk through a store, the speed
walk through the clothes I have here, or speed walk
through the discount DVD racketing you speed walk.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Your way out, then come back around, cough up a
buck you cheap. No, well, you know, in the end,
it's like it's the malls have become like a public park. Uh,
go walk a couple of laps instead of going down
to the local track. Yeah that is opening adjacent to
the high school or in some cases, uh, a standalone facility.
But yeah, it's uh, this one's pretty exciting. I mean

(09:35):
people were complaining about the dead time of July. Like
if you thought it was dead this year, you weren't trying.
Oh no, no, this is one where you just you
know what, hang up your head set, turn off the microphone,
let the light go dim, and just walk away.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
You got a game where we said, hey, we have
to take out the fountain. Everybody. That's everybody that's selling
the uh, the the.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Those kiosks have to move out there.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
The kios would the helicopter is something that's fun for
five minutes. Oh look at that helicopter. It floats around. Yeah, listen,
we can't be there for about a week or so.
Why we got the AFL Championship game. So where are
we gonna go. We're gonna move you to the third level,
So your kioski is gonna be on the third level.
But that's where then we're gonna wheel them all back in.
So don't worry about that Orange. Julius will wheel it
back in. Baskin Robbins will wheel it back in. You

(10:20):
guys are all good. The T shirts in the middle
that you could buy, the four twenty T shirts and
everything other you know you'll be able to get all
of those at some point, but just for a few days,
you're not gonna have Wait.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
You're moving us to the third level. Does that mean
we get a discount on our lease for that month?
Hell no, You think about that football game. Think of
all the foot traffic that we're bringing.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
You know, when I'm I'm watching this and like the
third maybe not the second thought in my head, but
like the third thought of my head was, is this
gonna be like the season three of Stranger Things? And
suddenly the demo Gorgan's gonna show up at the ball
and just start killing people and ripping people apart, because
that's kind of what it looked like. I'm like, it's
gonna show up because I'm thinking kind of Dark Knight

(11:02):
Rises a little bit with the hinds Ward, and I'm thinking, Okay,
they're gonna play this game. The demo Gorgan's gonna show
up through the floor, start killing players, and then you know,
Dustin's gonna come in, and here comes Eleven and Steve.
Steve's the best, and they're all gonna come in and
try to save the world. Where you get on video,
it's gonna be great.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
To, you know, just pull back the curtain. I mean
we got some baseball and all the monitors, but one
of them still has Oh Commissioner Gordon waving at me,
and I'll be seeing Baine in his mask any second.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Oh man, I'll tell you games and the.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Way when you talk about, you know, evil rising through
the floor. So here we go.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Games in them all. Like figure that game is in
the mall.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
I like this, that's the way to revitalize mall culture.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
We don't have a field. What do we do I
don't know. Cancel the game? No, you find it.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Unfortunately, I mean we're a couple of years past where
we could have gotten the Savannah Bananas to do this.
Now they sell out Fenway Park. I mean that ship
is sailed. No, no, you need more room.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
You can't have them play baseball in the bottom no.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
No.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
But I'm just saying, you know, we proof of concept
where we can get folks in for a good show.
Now we have to figure it out. I mean, as me,
maybe we bring pickleball to them all. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
No, it's gonna be big, dude. If you're playing the
AFL chanck. Come on, man, you just don't ask Billings
and all of you to show up and give them
some kind of you know, candy ass situation. That's what
I call show you give them a big thing here.
I wonder how hard the floor was, Like did they
just roll out the rug like right over the marble? Yeah?

(12:30):
Was there any kind of padding it all? Man? I felt, mind,
this marble is as floor as you know I have.
I fell on a piece of candy that someone forgot
to pick up. I fell sharply on that piece of
candy that hurts.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
The running back seems to be stuck on the ten
yard line.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
They're on the side of cotton candy was and it
said they're just drinking eating pixie sticks. Yeah, it's good.
I feel pretty good. This is great.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
I went to that oddball candy by the pound story.
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
We saw a game in a mall. I mean, that's
of all the things, right, of all of the here
we are, there's nothing more sports than twenty twenty four
than says, hey, here's a football the Arena football championship
game inside the mall.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
And you know what, you know, if I still lived
in the Albany area, that might have been one I
could have been had for I know it's a dutchy weekend.
We get into all that kind of fun stuff. But
I don't know a game like that in a mall.
Think I would have had to go.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Hey, road trip, Where are we going? We're going to
the Great American Mall in New Jersey. Why are we
driving like three hundred miles to a mall. There's a
football game in it. Oh, I'm in. I don't care
what I'm in for this. I want to see this.
I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
Yes, and afterwards, I promise we'll go and we'll get
you a special ice cream.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
And congratch it. We don't need to go anywhere. We
can just I can get it while you're watching the game.
It's okay, guys, I'll watch the game. You guys, go
walk the mall.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I'm good.

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Welcome back Major League Baseball. One of the second half
of the end of the MLB season, and.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
My team's right back where they started. Buddy, Let's go.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah. I was all excited. All the Mets have the Marlins.
We're gonna win three out of four. Suddenly, no, no, no, no,
lose the opening game to the Marlins. That's great, they'll
get you. Hey, I'm at least on the board now. No,
that's good. Congratulations, buddy. I thought that was good for
five minutes. You know, feel good for five minutes, buddy.
That's it.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I'm trying, buddy. I mean, in five minutes out of time.
That's how we get through life, right, waking up, and
then we go from there.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yes, yeah, yea. Never think too far in advance, right,
never make too many plans, but five minutes. Gotta think
a little bit into the future, of course, so do that,
of course.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
But we will have big bag. We'll have big bold
predictions for the second half of the season coming up
in a little bit. But right now, it's it's the
big All Star weekend for the WNBA before they take
a big break for a month. Everybody gets rest, not
named and not named any players playing on the US
Olympic team. So we have the game tomorrow and right
now we have the three point shooting contest going on.

(16:15):
It's been the Big Skills night. You watch a three
on three, couple of big things to to take away
as we look at it tomorrow. First of all, it's
it's how cool is it that the WNBA All Star
weekend is a big deal? Sure? Like, I mean that is.
I can't tell you how cool that is. And not
that we told you it was gonna happen when Caitlyn
Clark showed up and she was gonna have a Magic

(16:37):
and Larry effect on the game. But hey, this is
exactly what happened. And here we are, you know, Skills
Night on ESPN. We have the All Star Game tomorrow. Now,
right now, let's do the three point content before we
get to the All Star Game. Caitlyn Clark is not
in the three point contest. She's there for all the
all the the pageantry of the game, and I think
Angel Rees will be there at some point. She wants
to go to other games instead, but.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Kate taking out, I guess it's okay, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
No, it's okay. I mean really, because what did she say? Oh,
I'm not I bet the league that pays me. Like,
what what are you talking about? You're watching a Summer
league game in Vegas? What are you talking about? Really?
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (17:13):
W NBA subsidies of the WNBA.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, I mean, Angel Re says things sometimes and I
just got whatever, man, whatever, whatever you need to continue
to be relevant, whatever, you go ahead and do it.
But Caitlin Clark's not doing the three point contest. I
know there's a lot of criticism for it, but will look,
would it be great if she did it? Sure, But
I completely get why she's not doing it. She was
asked about it today and she said, you know, it's

(17:39):
been a long time. I'm kind of tired. To kind
of just take balls off a rack and make shots
is very difficult. And I'm going, Wow, what a load
of crap this is because that dad is Apple. I
can't take balls off a rack and shoot, really can't
do that. You've been tired, You're playing in a game tomorrow,
You're gonna have a month off, You're tired. She's not shoot,
she's not been the three point contest. I guarantee you
for two reasons. Number one is that there's no win

(18:03):
for her in the three why. It's why NBA Superstars
don't do the slam Dunk Contest, It's why Lebron doesn't
do the slam Dunk Contest. It's why the big stars
don't because you would expect the big stars to win,
and if they don't win, it's embarrassing. Look at Lebron
loses a slam dunk contest to a guy to mac
mcclun who's played like eight minutes in the last three

(18:24):
years of the NBA lean that's so embarrassing. There's no
real win for star players to do things like this,
only in as expected or more likely a loss. And
if she's not hot, she loses and suddenly, oh hey,
Caitlyn Clark lost to somebody nobody ever heard of was
in the three point contest. So I get that. That's
the first part, is that there's really no win. But

(18:45):
if she was shooting better, if she was more confident
from three point range, she would be in the contest,
because that's the one thing that I could say of
the first half that I would say, Caitlin Clark, but
forget about the turnover. She's leading the WNBA in assists,
so you'll deal with the turnovers if you lead the
league and assists. But she's not shooting great from three
point right. Right, she's about thirty two percent, which is

(19:07):
about six or seven percent below normally. She's about thirty
eight percent for her career. In college, she's thirty two
percent from three point range. She's not hitting these shots.
If she was more confident, if she thought she could
have a good showing, she would have done this. But
I'm sure she's worried that. Boy, I haven't at threes
all year. I don't know what's gonna happen. If I

(19:27):
show up and if I shoot terribly and I make
seven out of thirty, what's that gonna be. It's gonna
be a headline because what I do is a headline,
even though it's just a crazy three point contest. There's
no win for her, and if she was shooting better,
she would do it. But because if she was shooting
her normal thing, she was five out of twelve from
three point range, okay, great, But instead she's usually two

(19:49):
or three out of twelve, so she's not been that
kind of the One thing she hasn't been her hallmark
has been hitting shots in the logo and hitting from
deep and having a Steph Curry type game. Okay, she
has been able to change and evolve in such a
fast way to become the best guard in the w NBA.
But overall, I can see why she didn't do it. It's

(20:10):
about no win and she's not shooting. Well, that's why
she's not doing a three point shooting contest.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, I mean the latter part is one that needs
to be triple underscore. And I've seen all her comments
and the interviews she did talking about needing a little
bit of time and obviously you'll play tomorrow in the
All Star Game. But when you get down to it,
it's the you do get the mental break, get back
into the gym, you get your workouts in while the

(20:36):
Olympics go on, pay you know, attention to what's going on,
et cetera. But yeah, it's it's the first break that
she gets to have, and there is no win because
if she goes and shoots miserably, you know, it's we've
just watched how divisive this whole thing has been, you know,
where folks are trying to find everything to nitpick at

(20:56):
the games. I mean, take every player actually that's on
the the highlight reels at this point, there's the opportunity
to show the low light reel alongside them whenever you can. Sabrina,
I'd ask you she didn't. She decided not to follow
up because she won the three point shootout last year
and just said, look, I'm getting ready for the Olympics.

(21:17):
I don't have I want to focus all the things there.
So maybe again I don't want to lose the title,
you know, playing it out say, same kind of mentality
for you there, Jason. But watching the game by game
log for Kate and Clark, Yeah, there have been some
big shots, but shooting what three twenty seven I think
it is from three point range, So you know, a

(21:39):
lot of one for seven, two for ninees mixed therein
with the occasional big games. So at this point it's
it's really one of those. All right, just get yourself
set for the second half because there's a lot of
money riding on her having a big finish to this
season and getting the Fever into the playoffs. So that's
where the focus. So whatever Nicety she wants to say

(22:02):
about it, just say I needed a day off. Leave
me alone.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, look, I'm'm enjoying the pageantry. But if she was
shooting better, it's a different thing. But again, superstars don't
do stuff like this, right, That's just how it is,
and she's a superstar right like it used to it. Oh,
why doesn't Lebron guys don't do that, right, They just
they just don't do it. Hey, we're lucky when people
like Steph Curry want to do it, or Steph Curry
wants to have a three point shooting contest with Sabrina

(22:26):
I and s You like, we're lucky that he has
that kind of ego where he is okay doing that,
He is okay putting himself out there potentially to lose.
There's not many superstars that have that kind of ego
like Steph Curry, which is the perfect ego to have.
And look, Katele Clark's got a big ego, you know
she does a lot of the players. Do you've seen that?
But I mean, look, he's more much more the outlier

(22:49):
than he is the rule.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
No, absolutely, but he's also a guy that I mean,
this is not going to diminish what I've done, right, like,
and you have to be comfortable in your space for that. Hell,
i mean, look how comfortable he was bringing Kevin Durant in.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Now.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
I'm sure he's still salty as hell that those finals
MVPs went to Durant for his brief time there with
the Warriors. But you take the rings and you move on.
But your legacy is secure. Clark's still trying to build
her hers. I'd ask you the same thing. You know,
still on the rise as it were, and in terms
of the attention because she comes out of the COVID

(23:25):
era and everything, so still trying to get the eyeballs
and make sure that you follow the line and don't
have something that maybe lets the poison pens come out
in big form, and that's particularly true for Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
Now you want to know something that's going to be great, okay,
because I don't think I don't think the average fan
understands because when you hear All Star Week and it's like, oh, okay,
the pageantry is great. Maybe I'll catch some skills and
I mean any All Star game. Maybe I'll catch some
of the skills competition. Maybe I'll watch and see if
Joe Burrow can throw a football into a barrel from

(24:03):
eighty yards away. Like maybe I'll watch, maybe I won't.
Are you gonna watch the NBA All Star Game? Maybe
I watch, maybe I won't. But I'm gonna give you
this big Bowl prediction. I don't even know how bold
it's gonna be. The WNBA All Star Game will be
the most competitive All Star game any of us have
seen in twenty years, because both sides have a lot

(24:24):
to prove. Okay, you have this controversy that was built
in with not taking Caitlin Clark for the Olympic team
and the format being the Olympic team that's getting ready
to head to France against the WNBA All Stars right now.
So automatically you have a bit of a hey, I'm
not good enough to be on the on the Olympic team.

(24:45):
I want to show everybody how good I am. Okay,
that's built in. Then you have the Olympic team going, hey,
we don't want to embarrass ourselves. We can't lose to
the All Stars, right, So you have a little bit
of that built in. But now you amp it up
with the fact that how the hell is Kaitlin Clark
not on this team after what she's had because you've
pushed her out, you decided to exclude her. So you

(25:06):
know how motivated Caitlin Clark is. You know how motivated
Angel Reese is. You know how motivated a Rique A
gunbal Wally is. She's gonna take a thousand shots tomorrow.
She pulled her name out of consideration because of the
politics which went along with hey, this is how the
Olympic team is picked, which tells you, hey, maybe there
is a bit about keeping Caitlyn Clark off the team.

(25:26):
So you know how motivated that the All Stars are
gonna be to win this game, specifically those three players
who are gonna take all the shots and handle the ball. Okay,
so there be a lot of volume shots like Caitlin
Clark in a Gunbiwally may shoot like a combined like
ten for eighty from the field, but they will take
all the shots.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Hey, Gubwa is gonna get a lot of open looks
off Clark's passes. Sure, she's just not as make sure
that well and don't let that hit you in the face. Yeah,
exact comes with some heat.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Uh. But the Olympics team now they know, hey, there's
a lot of pressure on us because we excluded Caitlin
Clark in the image of us. Is that Hey, we
wanted this is our team, right, This is this is
the women that we like that we go to war with.
This is who we like. We hand picked this team
because it's who we like, who we get along with.
So this is what we're ready for. They can't lose.

(26:15):
They can't they can't be taken to the extreme by
the WNBA All Stars, specifically Caitlyn Clark, who they kept
off the team. Right, all you had to do is
see the quotes from Cheryl Reeve and what she's done
on social media the last couple months, and you know
she had no desire to put Caitlin Clark on the team.
Is that an individual thing? Is that something where she
talked to some of the players who didn't want to

(26:36):
take her. Probably a combination of both. And when you
when you realize that every Olympics of the past twenty years,
the Olympic team has taken the number one overall picking
the draft taking them to the Olympics so they could
get part of the experience going on and understand, hey,
this is what it is. You're one of the next
great stars of the league, and this is this is
We're gonna let you get your feet wet with international

(26:58):
competition at the highest level. They have taken somebody everything,
including Diana Tarrossi going all the way back, but now
they don't take Caitland Clark this year, so you know
that they know, Okay, we had a bulls eye on us.
We have to come out with a huge, huge effort
in this game. So you're gonna see the most competitive
game because both sides have that we want to win.

(27:19):
We don't get competition any other games. Even when there
was home field advantage this time Major League Baseball All
Star Game, that was still met with a bit of
an eye roll. But you are gonna see both teams
want to absolutely destroy each other. And I'll tell you
this what I'd love to be able to say, the
w NBA All Stars are gonna win if there's no
way I can't see the Olympic team pulling away and

(27:41):
winning this game. You have the best outside of Caitland Clark.
You have the best twelve players in the game, right
and everybody seems to be healthy, and you're gonna get
with all. You're gonna have players with a lot of minutes.
The team is picked to win, to win a championship.
It's not that, hey, we have so many plays. No,
you have what you have. You have the depth you
want in the back court, the depth you want the
front court. As competitive as this is gonna be, I

(28:03):
would be stunned if the Olympic team lost this game
and it would be great. And as you like to say,
I love chaos, and I love the chaos for this,
but I really would be stunned if the Olympic team
doesn't wind up pulling away and winning this game eventually
by fifteen or twenty point.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, I don't forget the other thing swirling in the background.
You talk about Reeve and everything else. Remember in Caitlin
Clark and that crowd when they went in and beat
reeves Minnesota squad. You know earlier this week what a
crazy or was that last week?

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Already?

Speaker 3 (28:33):
And all blends together anymore, but you had the capacity crowd.
She's dribbling it out in a big win and doing
the mean mug directly in Reeve's directions, So you know
you've got that. That is a recent little added torch
to all of this fun and excise. I was trying
to find the betting odds. Wilson is favored to be
the MVP. So that's good. Let's see Team USA is

(28:59):
only five and a half. How about that?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
If they if five and a half, that would be embarrassing.
You're talking about. This is like if you took the
NBA Olympic team. Right, Let's sayet everybody for the Olympic team,
and then you put them up against the rest of
the NBA, the All Stars, right, I mean, obviously, look,
Jalen Brunson would score forty five, they'd probably win. But
if you put the Olympic team up against the best,
the all stars at the NBA, the Olympic team would

(29:24):
eventually pull away and win huge, right like that. That's
just that's just how it would be. You know, they
they'd be able to pull away, they'd be able to
win by a big margin. And and I don't I
don't see that being outside. I don't see how you
can take arguably the top twelve ish players, or maybe
you take twelve of the top twenty players overall, and
you wind up losing a game because of it. I

(29:46):
just don't see how that happened.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Chaos theory. Hey, if they win, do they get to
take that and they actually go to France instead? Oh
that would be great, right, they throw it down and
with the mic WWE style.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Oh sure, if we win, you're staying home.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
All slam the microphone.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Stay home, your home, jlthy you your.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Home read, you're out of a job, and.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
All of you give back your new shoe contracts that
you got in the last couple of months. Give them all.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
See this got this just got far more interesting, all right,
Wilson five five point fifty plus five fifty to be
your MVP. I and ask you at plus seven fifty
Breonna Stewart or Stewie as they say, at ten to one,
Copper at ten to one, uh Lloyd at eleven to one,
and then Caitlin Clark coming in at twelve to one

(30:44):
to win the game's MVP. But I like that. Yeah,
you don't get to go represent if you lose tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah, buddy, I like that.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
I like that, come on in if you will.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
The other thing I like is special delivery Steve de Seger,
who's a legend. Besides the Met's Marlin's tonight, he has
the rest of what's trending in the wide world sports.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
So you're saying on this hoops idea for tomorrow, it's
not loser leaves town. It's the winner gets to leave town.
That's in Paris, Okay, stays home. WNBA is off for
about a month. Tomorrow's when the US Olympic women's basketball
team has its sendoff game against a team of WNBA
Stars the three Point Contest and Skills Challenge, where tonight

(31:24):
they're over and Alicia Gray of Atlanta won them both.
The NBA Summer League continues in Las Vegas. Nicks were
in action and winning ninety one to ninety over Detroit
Ladies and Gentlemen. Rookie guard Tyler Kohlik with okay eight
points and seven assists, but it's a w and on
to victory for the New York Now Yeah. Marcus Asser

(31:45):
for Detroit had twenty four points. First rounder Ronald Holland
twenty points for the Pistons. That league's games started last Friday.
It goes until Monday, the twenty second, with all thirty
NBA teams, each club playing at least five games there.
In Vegas, the Memphis Grizzlies traded former first rounder Zaire
Williams to Brooklyn, creating salary cap flexibility. Kevin Durant finally

(32:06):
practiced with Team usa'd been out for about two weeks
with a stray calf. The US men's Olympic team has
two exhibitions in London, including Saturday on Fox TV three
pm Eastern Time against South Sudan and Monday afternoon on
Fox It'll be the US against Germany. The American's Olympic
Tournament starts a week from Sunday against Serbia. Shane Lowry

(32:28):
leads the Open Championship in Scotland by two strokes at
Royal Troon. Justin Rose is tied for second place. Bryson
de Shambo missed the cut. He was nine over Rory
McElroy was eleven over par. Tiger Woods was fourteen over Vikings.
First round quarterback JJ McCarthy signed as rookie deal running
back Kenyan Drake retired. Former Bear safety Eddie Jackson signed

(32:50):
with the Ravens. Kansas City has sent the White Sox
to a fifth straight loss seven to won the final.
White Sox now twenty seven and seventy two and it
has just gone final. The Orioles have won nine to
one at Texas. It was Cleveland's seven nothing over the Padres.
It was one nothing lead in the eighth. Miami did
beat the Mets six ' four, although Jeff McNeil had

(33:11):
two home runs. Mets record forty nine and forty seven
Detroit and Washington with wins. Arizona as well. The Yankees
and Garrett Cole beat Tampa Bay six to one Juan
Soto went four for four tonight with three runs scored,
and Pittsburgh won its fifth game in a row eight
seven over Philadelphia with two runs in the bottom of
the ninth. The Phillies had entered first in the NL

(33:32):
East eight and a half games over the Braves. The
Atlanta home game against Saint Louis was rained out. Long
rain delay at the start over two hours. That game
never started. They'll try to play a doubleheader tomorrow, but
there's a chance to rang for the next week or
so in Atlanta. Let's be honest. Angels tied at Oakland
two to two in the bottom of the fourth, Dodgers
in Red Sox scoreless in the third, Astros at Mariners, scoreless,

(33:54):
bottom of the second.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve Though The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmen Live the tiraq dot Com Studios.
We'll have more on the WNBA coming up a bit,
because boy, it just gets more and more embarrassing. Caitlin
Clarks on the Olympic team. More time goes up. But
straight ahead, are we close to the end of one
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Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yes, it's Friday, the Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen
live from the tyrack dot com studios. We'll get to
some big bold predictions for the second half of the
major League Baseball season coming up in a few minutes.
But uh, you probably woke up earlier today. Maybe you

(35:33):
watched late last night, maybe watched in the middle of
the night. It saw that Tiger Woods has missed the
cut at the Open Championship. In truth, thirteen over, he
has missed the cut now and in all, in the
last three majors, it has not been a id say,
a banner year. It's not been a year for Tiger

(35:55):
where I can even say he feels confident going forward
with how much longer he's gonna play. Because I'll tell
you this, right after today and seeing him and seeing
him talking, Tiger says the same thing. I didn't play
very well today and hit enough greens and had a
bad day with the putter. I'm not gonna play again
until December. Wait what, No, not gonna play again until December.

(36:17):
There's no sport you can play where the less you play,
the better you are. Doesn't happen, right, especially when you're
forty eight years old like Tiger Woods is. And he's
not gonna play now till December. Okay, So now he's
played all the majors, he hasn't done well. August September, October, November.
He's gonna play two events in four months. Right, in

(36:38):
four months, he's going to play in two events. Enjoy
Tiger now because he's not gonna be one of those
guys who just plays all the way until you have
to pull the club out of his hands. The best
ones never do. He's still in a little bit now
of Hey, I feel like if I could just get
it going, I could play and I can win. I'm

(36:59):
not gonna to play unless I think I could win.
But he's gonna be getting to the end of that
belief sometime soon because he can't. He doesn't have the
game anymore. He can't do it, doesn't play enough. I
don't know that he has the stamina for four rounds
playing heavy golf.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Well, what we've been talking the cut. Yeah, but we've
been talking about that for a couple of years. Right
of you might get a good Thursday, maybe you get
half a Friday. By Saturday, he's toast.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
I would say this, and this is what if you
were betting, I'd say, what's Tiger Wood's good career? At rest?
Career gonna look like he's gonna play next year, and
then decide that he's going to retire. He'll play next year.
Realize I don't have the game. The young players are
too good. It's not the same. The live golf a
PGA tour thing is somewhat solid. Everybody is sort of

(37:45):
back together. He's not didn't want to be the captain
of the Ryder Cup team, and he's going to retire.
He's not gonna go out there and embarrass himself. He's
done enough of a comeback. He wants to make sure, Hey,
I am doing this as much as I can, because look,
this is what you should do when you think you're
done playing I always subscribe to Phil Simms, who always said, listen,
if you think you're done playing football, play another two years.

(38:07):
When you think you're done after that, play one more
year because life after football, not play. I mean, that's
a long time to not play football anymore. It's a
long time for Tiger Woods to not play golf again.
So he is, he is going through. I am exhausting
every avenue I have that can I play well? Can
I make it? And I'm gonna do it. But he's
near the end and maybe next year, maybe he comes

(38:30):
to that decision earlier. But if he's still playing playing
competitive golf after twenty twenty five, I'll be surprised. Like
I think, next year is gonna be it for him.
Maybe we'll have one more I'll tee it up at Augusta,
or maybe he has a farewell tour where he plays
all four majors and he decides, Hey, next year is
gonna be it. I'm gonna play Augusta one more time.

(38:50):
I'm gonna play here one more time, and that's going
to be it, And it's gonna be him feeded with
all the pageantry you want to give a guy that
grew golf like nobody else in the history of the sport.
But if he's still doing competitive golf after twenty twenty five,
I'm gonna be surprised. He's gonna be forty nine to fifty,
and that's gonna be when he says, I just can't
do it anymore. I'm not gonna embarrass myself and shoot

(39:11):
thirteen fourteen over par and I'm gonna retire. He is
so near the end that it's probably next year is
the last time to expect to see him.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Hey, if you think Mick Jagger will be out there
trying to be a rock star at age fifty. You
are sadly sad mistake.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
When you say that line. You actually have to do
the move, like Jimmy Fallon doesn't. Almost famous. You got
to put your hands up in your hands down. You
gotta do that.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
That's it. But it's the same thing here, right. It's
the old tear the jersey off someone's back, all of
those things until you're you want to be done, And
golfs one of those things because he still moves the needle. Right.
The coverage on television, the coverage on websites and blogs
and social media, still more about Tiger Woods than the

(39:54):
people that are competing. Not saying that's great, but I'm
saying that's real. And it keeps the money machine going
whenever he does participate, which is just a handful of
events a year anymore, So keep him going. I think
he just keeps hustling because I don't think he knows
how to shut that mechanism off. Smith.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
No, and once in a while, will we see him
with Charlie like out at some kind of fun event
or with a I'm not saying we're never gonna see
him with a golf club in his hand. Anymore. But
we're not gonna see him out there saying, hey, I'm
teeing it up because I think I can go.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
He's waiting for Charlie Baby.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Nah No, No, We'll still he'll still be around the game.
I'm not saying he's gonna be a hermit. But if
he's still playing competitively after next year, I'll be stunned.
I think what is competitively competitive? I mean he's playing playing,
not what I said. Hey, we got a big story
out of baseball. Next Fox Fox Sports Radio The Jason

(40:51):
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the tire rack dot Com Studios. Big stuff in the
NFL this week. Caleb Williams looks like he's going to
play in the preseason. Did not get his no trade clause.
For more on this than other big stories, the Texans

(41:11):
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He's a longtime NFL insider. He is a Hall of
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He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. It is
Jason Cole. What's happening, buddy?

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Right?

Speaker 4 (41:32):
It's so beautiful? It just really is. Because I had
maybe a couple, just maybe a couple of what you
might call a fresh skiler. And what is the fred
skiler you ask for, especially somebody who knows who is

(41:54):
that they handle? How about a fresco? It is a
combination of fresca and tequila.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Whoa, and it is.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
It is amazing and it's sort of like a white
trash margarita. I'll go with that.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
So wait, wait, so you actually found someplace that serves fresca.
I mean, like, that's that's a big deal. Man.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
No, it's my home. That's my home.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
We bought the fresh, bought the fresh, brought it home.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
And we had and we had tequila. The tequila is
ever president at my house. But yes, the fresco is.
My neighbor came up with this. I shouldn't say he
came up with it. He introduced us to it a
couple of weeks ago, and we had a couple more
of them tonight. It was quite deliciousious refreshing wows as

(42:50):
only freshman could be. So how about a fresco?

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Wow? Hey, guess what? Hey, guess what Hall of Fame? Hey,
are your big Hall of Fame voter as this? No?
Not now, I have ammunition against you when you when
you have to get jets in the Hall of Fame.
So now I feel pretty ammunition.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
What I've admitted having a Presca.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Maybe some of your Hall of maybe some of your
Hall of Fame recommendations are due to FRESCILA.

Speaker 4 (43:18):
Wait for it, what what? I was going to say
that I had new found respect, but I'd never have
actually found respect for you. But so I have no
idea what that what that was? I was trying to
pay homage and homage to Presca to help you out,
because obviously you like Presca or for some reason you

(43:39):
picked how about a Presco? But for whatever reason, and it's.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
A caddyshack line. That's that's why it's how about a Frescot?
It's caddyshack.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Yeah, but I thought you would actually like Prescot because
you actually picked it out. So there we are. Anyways,
do we want to talk actually about football? Bili Williams,
you know something like that.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah, he's going to get some preseason reps. He got
his contract. Everybody in Chicago, the word Hope is on
walls all over the city Chicago.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
Hope. Where where we heard that one before?

Speaker 3 (44:11):
What a great show it was? Was brilliant, Christine.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Lottie, Chicago, Fire, Chicago, Hope, Chicago, whatever it was.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
You know, it's an entire NBC, a whole Chicago night.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
It's like fire and law and police, like it's a
whole night of Chicago.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
I know every I guess, Caleb. I mean, I don't
understand why people are really surprised that he's getting reps
in the preseason, Like, how are you supposed to get
ready to actually play in the NFL if he doesn't
play in the preseason. I didn't quite get this. What
what was the what was the consternation that made this newsworthy?

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Because nobody plays anymore. No guys play anymore because Sean
McVay rooted for everybody by winning the Super Bowl and
holding all his starters out, so nobody plays the preseason.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Okay, is anybody expecting the Embars to win the Super Bowl?
You know? Other than Harmon?

Speaker 3 (45:08):
I mean, I'm driving at Bear's bus straight to Vegas.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
My friend, let's go, Okay, let's gold, let's call. That's
sound almost like Dave want Step. Remember as you remember
those days, don't you? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:24):
All too well, I'll start singing the Taylor Swift ten
minute version of All Too Well. That's how much I
love that those days. Sometimes, Yeah, I know, I like,
this is a great thing.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
You got the deal done. I I'm I have curiosities
about like who actually you know negotiates contract form or anything,
but it want to deal with all that kind of stuff.
But whatever, it's done. He needs to play in the preseason.
He needs to play a lot. He needs to play
as many reps as they can. That's a good thing.
I mean, at least you're not hearing them say, oh,

(45:56):
we're worried about like maybe he needs to hear you know,
to hold them off for a year at least there
putting him out there. But I was like, I didn't again,
I didn't quite get it. Like I was fully expecting
this guy was going to play two thirds of the
preseason and then you know, gave him another third or
two you know, the backups. But you know he should
play again two thirds of the downs in the pre

(46:18):
in in the preseason. Get that action, get him ready
for the season. He needs it. I mean, this is
a kid who amazing talent, right but hasn't played very
disciplined football because Lincoln Riley doesn't believe in discipline at
USC in any way, shape or form, and that's why

(46:38):
you see really bad football at USC. The second thing
is that that stuff that he's doing is not going
to work at this next level. It probably will work,
you know, while people are getting, you know, figuring out
what he does well and what he doesn't do well,
but he's going to hit a wall at a certain point.

(46:59):
So he needs to be ready to actually play the
discipline football that you know. Patrick Mahomes took a year
to learn that playing behind Alex Smith. But I think
that I think that, you know, Caleb Williams was this
more advanced player than perhaps Patrick Mahomes at this point
in time. I'm not saying he's a better player, but
he's more advanced in terms of understanding what he's supposed

(47:23):
to do a quarterback right now. I just think he
needs to tone down some of the hero ball that
he played at USC.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
What what are the of the rookie quarterbacks you most
excited to see for whatever reason, whether trained think they're
going to be great? Who do you want to see?
Who are you most interesting?

Speaker 4 (47:38):
So I mean it's all about Williams. I see. I
remember two years ago going to the Stanford USC game, right,
and I was like, Okay, what's Caleb Williams really about?
And he stepped back and he threw some amazing you know,
he did some amazing stuff with the ball. He really
did like some of the touch passes. He threw some

(48:00):
of the stuff on time. Now, he does hold the
ball a little bit too much, and he makes his
offensive line work a little too much, which again he's
not going to get away with in the NFL. The
defenders are too good. But he's so capable and so
much better than everybody else when it comes to doing

(48:22):
stuff like that. I'm all in on watching Jayden Daniels. Okay,
that's fine, whatever, Drake may fine whatever, But you know
the guy who you know somewhere down the line, I
really want to see his tennis, But I don't think
he's going to get a lot of action this year, right,
And I'm excited about the way he plays as well,

(48:46):
But Caleb Williams is the one who's going to play
more down than Maybe he'll give me the most interesting
quarterbacks this year by far.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
All Right, So the chaos theory, I mean, Smith wants
Adams to come to the Jets, but I'm more interested
in what happens in Sanford is Brandon and I are
you going to stay there for the year or did
they eventually find out where?

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Come on there? They are this close right there, they're
what two plays away from winning the last Super Bowl,
and there he's playing for them, He's not playing for
anybody else. The question really is how long does Debo
Samuels last with them? And I think Samuels makes it
to this season and then they're done with Deebo Samuels,

(49:28):
mostly because I think they believe that Deebo Samuels is
going to get get hurt and all those all those things.
His shelf life is not as great, but I ook
the guy. What I'm really concerned about with the forty
nine ers is will they have learned something from the

(49:49):
same the Deebo Samuel hold out and then the boat
will hold out, which is those guys held out right,
and they waited for their money and waved for their money.
It took a long time to finally get done, and
neither of them had great seasons afterwards. And I think
that's a commonality. It's like, you got to want your
guys to be all in right, You got to be
excited about this, So why are you hedging on this?

(50:12):
You know you pay them, you need something to make
them happy. Okay, right now, I doesn't like the fact
that he's only getting twenty six million dollars a year
instead of the twenty eighth that he wants change the
contract and make it something that's more acceptable for him.
But he's your guy, and you're I mean, you're you're
you're thinking, you know, super Bowl titles. You shouldn't be

(50:34):
worried about the cap right now. You can fix the
cap three years from now when you have to rebuild.
Don't worry about the cap now.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
But the thing I look at it with Iukja is
that he's made it combative over the last few months,
like this is not hey, I want money, it can
work out. Hey, I'm holding out. I understand. This is
not Aaron Rodgers being an egypt and Robert Sala saying
we understand it's an excuse, like he's made it combat
of now the social media posts and now it's I'm
demanding a trade, like I don't want you satisfy him.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Well, but because that's what Devo had to do, right
and because Bosa had to be compassive, combative, right and
essentially not practice for all all the training camps like
this came down to. Both of those came down to
stare downs. So what have you trained your player to
do in order to get paid? You paid? You know,
you said, let's get into a stare down with him.

(51:27):
The other thing is, if you know the background, the
dad's really involved in this negotiation as well, and the
dad's pushing it because the dad looks at the stats
and he looks at you know, he believes in his son,
of course, and he's sitting there going, why aren't they
making my kid, you know, the higher paid player than
say Jalen Waddle, right, who hasn't accomplished as much as

(51:47):
as his kid. At least that's what you know. At
least that's what IoK's father believes, right and for all
you know the best intentions, right, you don't you believe
in your son? Okay, this is not to blame him,
but you're not recognizing the forty nine ers have to
be the bigger person in this whole thing and recognize

(52:08):
the dynamics and go, okay, here are here are a
set of other ideas that get us around this and
The other thing is stop stop taking a stand in
a moment where you can't take a stand. You need
to player, he needs to win. You need to take
advantage of this window. You you're not worried about two

(52:32):
or three years down the line, You're just not. You're
playing for right now. So if you're playing for right now,
take advantage of right now. You're a window is open
right now. So stop stop pretending that you know you're
somehow going to win this battle. You're not. The player
is going to win the battle. And if you and

(52:52):
if you do, get the bad idea that you should
trade him. Okay, you know you're depending on Pierce All
to come in and be the guy. No, they took
Pearsol because they're going to do this for one year
with Auk, and you know they can force him to
play the one year on the one year deal. But
that's not what you want to do either, because again,
their long range plan is more about how do they

(53:15):
move on from debo after one year, which is why
they took Pearsol. Okay, they want to have IOK go
with IOK and sam and Samuel for this year as
their main two guys. Then let go Samuel in a
year and moved and moved to Pearsol. That's that's what
they want to have happened, So go make it happen.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
He's on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. That is
at Jason Coles sixty two. He is powered by Tonight Here. Yeah,
the show.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Take it easy, buddy, we'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
Is in the is in the Alcohol Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Yeah, very good. Yes, I think Andy Cohen invented that
drink like ten years ago. But okay, I think we're good.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
But as he don't. Yeah, let's bottle it. Let's go.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
I could make millions selling that at the University of Florida.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
The University of You got folks pulling up with their
hot dog carts and there, all.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Of the all the Florida University. If I saw it there,
I make billions, billions.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
And billions there.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
It is a man who's gonna buy the cowboys with
the money he has made off of selling for Scila
in Florida. See, oh, you never know what you're gonna
get for skil A visit from Jason Cole. Uh. You know,
honestly that that went a lot different than I thought
it was gonna go when we first found out about Frescila,

(54:43):
I'm like, okay, but it it actually went in a
different direction. I was I was surprised.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Hey, well, you know what, sometimes you gotta you gotta
have that shock, shock, and all kind of moment there.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Let's find out what's trending in the wide world of
sports from mister jin and Tonic, because that's what he
has before every single It's Steve.

Speaker 6 (55:02):
Although he was no doubt referencing the world's largest outdoor
cocktail party after all.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
No questions a lot of fans and Segar does do
the murder, she wrote, I mean he does do that.

Speaker 6 (55:14):
Have you seen the Pat somemmerl documentary, which is great,
by the way, on NFL Network. He said that after
a while, when he was on the Sunday Games with
John Madden, it became kind of a thing in the
booth to see how long he can wait in between,
you know, in the middle of that title saying coming
up after the ball game tonight is murder. Pause pause, pause, pause,

(55:36):
she wrote.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
And it kept.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
It became a thing of its own to the point
that people our age absolutely remember Pat Summerle and thinking
that maybe his mic went off, or he just fell
asleep at the end of the night, or yeah, see
I heard something else was the reason. Speaking of cocktail parties.
As for football news, Vikings first round quarterback JJ McCarthy's

(56:00):
he signed his rookie deal.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
That leaves two.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
Players as the only two from this year's draft class unsigned,
Vikings linebacker Dallas Turner and still Bengals offensive Tackleamarius Mims.
Running Back Kenyan Drake retired after eight seasons. Former Bear
safety Eddie Jackson signed with the Ravens. He was released
in February. Chicago Bears veterans reported to training camp today.
The Hall of Fame exhibition will have Bears, Texans August first,

(56:25):
Chiefs and Ravens veterans each report to camp tomorrow. Packers
vets report on Sunday. Most NFL veterans reports on Tuesday
were getting closer. Shane Lowry leads the Open Championship by
two strokes in Scotland. Justin Rose is tied for second place.
Among those missing the cut, Bryson de Shamba at nine
over Rory McElroy eleven over par and Tiger Woods, who

(56:46):
was fourteen over Churchill Downs rescinded its long suspension of
Bob Baffert. The Hall of Fame trainer can now resume
racing his horses at that track and its partner facilities
after he finally took responsibility. Baffert was banished for more
than three years after a failed drug test of his
twenty twenty one Kentucky Derby winner. Medina Spirit Kevin Durant

(57:07):
finally practiced with Team USA today. He'd been out for
a couple weeks with a straying calf. The US Men's
Olympic team has two exhibitions in London, including Saturday on
Fox TV three pm Eastern Time versus South sud An.
Monday afternoon on Fox It'll be the US against Germany. Tomorrow,
the US Olympic Women's basketball team as its sendoff game
against a club of WNBA stars. The WNBA is off

(57:30):
for about a month. They did have their three point
contest and skills challenged tonight, Atlanta's Alisia Gray one of them.
Both to Major League Baseball, there are three late games.
The Red Sox lead one nothing at Dodger Stadium against
La top of the sixth inning. Jared Duran the All
Star Game MVP with a home run. Astros lead three
to nothing at Seattle, bottom of the fifth, three errors

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for the Mariners, and at Oakland it's the A's ahead
of the Angels seven to three, bottom of the sixth inning.
Kansas City a seven to one winner against the White Sox,
who've lost five in a row. The White Sox win
loss record this season now, and this was pointed out
by a Sockx writer, is both of Carlton Fifth's numbers.
They are twenty seven and seventy two. Oh Man before

(58:14):
and after Baltimore a nine to one winner at Texas
Anthony sentendare two homers, five rby Eyes, Cleveland shut out
San Diego seven thing Yankees and Garrett Colby Tampa Bay
six to one, and Pittsburgh with two in the ninth,
defeated the Phillies eight seven. Pirates have won five straight.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Back to you, wow, Carlton Fisk night for the Chicago
White Sox twenty seven and seventy two.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
The only problem is they lost very quickly tonight, Fisclike,
you would have gotten a couple of extra adjust yourself
pauses and time out to the mound.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
You can only ask for so much from the White Sox.
I mean, come on, man, I mean really, you're you're
you're asking for a little bit too much. Hey, could
you get it? No, No, listen, we're the White Sox.
We're gonna lose. It's gonna be over by the third inning. Okay,
all right, all right, we'll do your best. Yeah, thank you,
Steve Times. Oh I like that. It's it's Carlton Fisk Knight.
They're twenty seven and seventy.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Thanks Steve.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Coming up next, one NFL superstar wants a trade. We'll
tell you not only where he will wind up a
dark horse team and one team that won't trade for him.
That's Cleveland does fall into that category. But it's not
who we're talking about. Yeah, we're not talking about it.
That's coming up next right here. This is Fox.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
I'm Jason Smith, and I just like to say Cleveland
is not a part of things.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
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