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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Com is the way tire buying should be. I don't
know if I'm just more excited about this game mikeuse
here we are, you know, getting towards the holidays. But
I don't know, man, I'll all tell you this much.
I think tomorrow Packs the Lions, It's gonna easily be
the most watched Thursday night football game of the year,
and the other games aren't going to be close. Obviously,
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it's streaming, so to compare it to other games you can,
especially when you know forty million people watched Cooper Rush
and Drew Locke on Thanksgiving. But I think Thursday Night
Tomorrow night meant what a game. I cannot wait for
this game, Toronto, got you? You're jumping on that already.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Look, it's another NFC North Divisional game where my team
has no stakes. Yes, we suck, but the fact of
the matter is you got a bunch of injuries that
will play into this one. You know, you got all
your Lions gear on. I'm sorry that we'll actually have
to be in the studio to watch that one, because
then I can't curse at you on air.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
When you'll just wait till the microphone's off like you do.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
You'll try that happen when Josh Jacobs is running the
ball down your throat on his way towards the degree.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's not my team, it's my wife's family. Yeah, but
you've jumped on board their bandwagon cause they're exciting. Man.
It's fun to watch a team score forty points a week.
That's a fun thing, man, that's fun. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I think you're more exciting and more excited about the
fact that there's six teams on by so this one
gravitated to the top.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I'm sorry that you have to watch your Bears games going.
I know something unbelievably horrible is gonna happen at the end.
Whereas when I watch the Jets, I know what's gonna happen.
I tell you there's still gonna suck, but I know
what's gonna happen. You go something real. It's like watching
going like like knowing, Hey, you know the end of
Hereditary it's gonna end bad for everyone, right the end
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of Midsummer it's gonna end. There's no winners here, and
you know how, because that's how you have to watch
football games. There's no ending that's gonna be good for anybody.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
When you watch the Bears, one movie good third act,
the other one not so much. I'll let you guess
which off the two you named. But that's exactly it.
It's all the movies you watch now for the third
act that there needs to still be some juice, at
least with the Bears. There's been that it's a twist
that you did not see coming. Well, it's an f
night Shallaman movie on steroids. You know there's a twist,
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except you have no idea where it's gonna come from.
You just know that it's going to be a spectacular fail.
But no, Look, I'll hate watch both these teams tomorrow.
Be exciting a lot of excitement for both of them
going down the stretch run as we try to argue
teams into that very narrow window of teams that could
still compete for a title. I'm curious to see the
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Detroit effort up front with the number of injuries they're battling. Obviously,
JayR Alexander out for the Packers is doing them no
favors downfield, Hi, I'm on ross Aint Brown. But all
of that to say, yeah, it's good to have a
Thursday night game with some juice and not because hey,
the winds are gonna be swirling or there's going to
be snow to create chaos.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I love it. Exit out about a Fresca exit Swallen
down the Jason Smithson with Mike Carmon Lifethtirec dot Com Studios.
So we'll give you our official picks for this game
coming up later on this hour. But today, yeah, the
Bears win because they're not playing. But I always like
to talk about, Hey, all these different jobs that I
could do in sports. I wasn't, you know, doing the
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show with you. It wasn't a host on you know,
radio and TV. Whatever it was. I always say, I
could do this job. I could be a I could
be a PR director for a team. I could be
a PR director for people. I'd be great advertising. All
the ideas I come up with control. Yeah, but I
realize today there is absolutely one job I could not do.
I could I especially now. Today was National signing Day
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in college football, right, and it's a day that everybody
seems to be happy because no matter what you're you're
getting players to come in that you think are going
to be great. And yes, we grade the classes and
who really knows, right, it's great to be mentioned if
you have a top ten, top twenty, top thirty, top
fifty class, it's awesome, right, But you don't really know.
But the job I could never do is I could
never It's so daunting, especially with what's the latest phenomenon
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the last couple of years. I could never be a
college recruiter. I could. I could never do it. The
amount of stress and attention to detail I'd have to
have with waking up every day and texting a seventeen
year old kid on his way to school and say, hey,
hope you have a great test in trigonometry today, Hey
hope you have fun of your girlfriend's birthday tomorrow night.
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Let me know how it goes up there, And then
to watch and then that'd be tough enough. But then
to watch them flip at the end, I would just
I would just I would throw myself out the window.
I mean, because now guys flip all the time. You know,
it used to be ah, you know, kids go and
they verbally commit and and that's pretty was pretty much
a solid. Then they absolutely commit in they're there. But
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now you have a kid for so long and because
nil has changed everything where hey, we just want to
stay in contact with you, you know, and kids are eighteen,
they change their mind. If they're committed to one school
for more than eight hours, they'd get a little antsy, going,
I don't know, do I really want to go here?
I was committed to the school for a long time.
Bryce Underwood was LSU for like eight months when you're
eighteen years old, like eight months is forever, right, It's forever.
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So sometimes you just get antsy, you want to scratch
that itch, but especially now with NIL, when suddenly out
of the blue, you think you have everything lined up,
and the kid calls and says, hey, so sorry, but
so and so just came through with an extra three
hundred thousand dollars for me in NIL money, or an
extra one hundred grand for me, or an extra fifty grand,
whatever it is. And so I'm going there, I'm sorry.
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And this kid that you have spent the lab better
part of the last two years getting down to your
final list, having them in the final having him pick
your hat on National Signing Day, and did get all
the way to that point, and then it's okay, we
got them, we got them. And then to have him
flipped because what was the big story today, all the
flips that happened, All the schools that flip kids from
other schools flipping here, that's become the thing now, it's
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not become signing a four star five star recruits. How
many foreign five star recruits can you flip from other
schools to come to you and add to your class.
I could never do that job. I would just once
a kid. If a kid texted me, hey said thanks coach,
I appreciate it, but I'm gonna go here because you
know so and so they promised my girlfriend a job,
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you know, on campus or whatever whatever. I would just
say I could never talk to that kid again. I
couldn't do it, and it would just drive me absolutely crazy.
I could never do that. Not in you could say
to me, Jason, I will give you twenty million dollars. Okay,
well what do I gotta do? You have to be
a D one high level college football recruiter for two years,
and I would say I can't do it. I cannot
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do it. I would I would disintegrate by the time
whizz Over couldn't do it.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah, there's a couple of pieces to this, and one
I'm gonna drag my school while I'm at it, so
let's go. Is the the fact that it's the old
Nino Brown. This is how you would get through it, Jason.
Always business never personal. We got to go back to
the film classic New Jack City.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Always business never personal, because that's it, right.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You got a lot of yourself invested as a recruiter,
as a coach assistant coach.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Right, if you're the.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Head of recruiter on a staff, that's gonna be your
way to move up the ladder. Look at the kid
I developed this relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
With and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yeah, you know what that's worth in today's marketplace, given
the free flowing economy that we have now, which is
why I'd like to drag my school to the Northwestern Wildcats
signing day. You know you're peacocky. Hey, here's all the
kids we got. But this is an indictment of the
schools all quote, in terms of our recruiting process, not
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a single one of these young men was induced to
come to Northwestern through NI held dollars.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
There wasn't a wait wait, wait it gets better.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
There wasn't a single cent of nil committed to these
young men. Okay, Now, while I like the idea, you
sell the school, top ten university, Chicago, adjacent all of
those things, here's the careers.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Look at all the luminaries and all these.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Different fields, broadcasting legends like Mike Harmon and Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I mean there's a lot to sell, but that's the thing.
You're gonna go walk out and all these guys nobody
offered them a cent, so they chose us because we
didn't offer them anything either. Look, I've been barking up
that tree for the last couple of years, right of
the fact that Northwestern, which your school, Syracuse, a couple
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of these others that in theory had a first move
or advantage. You know, you've got alumni bases, moneyed alumni bases,
and that you didn't activate those in time like waiting
and wishing and wanting and hoping for guardrails that were
never built or were shoddily constructed along the way.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That's you gonna be your message.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
That's either hey, fire me because I'm letting all the
secrets out come get me. Because look at the crap
I gotta do to try to build a recruiting class.
Look at what my step Look how weather did warn
they are from the recruiting process, waiting for the flip.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It wouldn't happen. I would look like you remember at
the at the end of what was when all the
reporters were just absolutely bent, when they just looked exhausted
after they worked on this store. I'm trying to think
there's a there's a newsroom shot I'm thinking of and
I can't think of, okay, where they're just all absolutely
spent after working on this story for like months and
months and months and they finally go to press with
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it and it comes out. Now they're gonna do and
they're just all sitting looking at each other like I
am utterly exhausted. That would be me, like after a week,
like I have to do I can't do it. I
cannot do this. I can't. I can't. I know, I yes,
I know it was his it was his aunt's birthday.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
I know.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
I don't think anybody from LSU was there. But I
will see. I will see who he's talking to after
the game this weekend. If he said congratulations in the
line to a kid who's going to Florida that said, hey,
hit me up, I might they may have a room
for another defensive lineman like I couldn't. That's something that
I don't know how you do it. And it really
makes me appreciate the next level of coaches that are
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coming through college football, because that's one thing that's being said.
We spend so much time talking about the end of
the old guard, right, the guys that are saying this
is not the college football like coach right, Nick Saban, Dablosweeney.
Even though the Sweeney could be in the playoff this year,
he's still all I don't like it. I don't like it.
You get a lot of coaches that are walking away
now because hey, this is not the college football era
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that I grew up with. This is not what I appreciate.
I don't get to coach enough. It might spend too
much time on the phones for nil and the transfer.
It's too much time away from coaching. I don't like it.
And yeah, and it's easy to say, hey, yes, college
football isn't what it used to be and blah blah,
blah blah. But at the same time, I look at
all these new guys that are coming in now, that
are up for the challenge, that are recruiting in places
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that you didn't think they would recruit and recruit this
fasta whether it's Syracuse or Indiana or anywhere else. It's well,
all of a sudden, look at look at what we
got going on here, because these guys come in and
this is this is their specially, it's their wheelhouse. Is yeah,
I'm a pretty good head coach. I could be a
pretty good head coach. But my job is to get
the kids in, get him in the pro, get them
to pay attention, and let my coordinators do their thing.
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Like that's the next level of coach, the college coach
that's gonna succeed. It's not gonna be someone coming in
with some kind of great offensive scheme or going It's
gonna be the recruiters that know how to be the
CEO of head coaches and can delegate and get to
the most important thing is getting the talent in the
building and getting the talent on the same page. And
that is absolutely tireless because you still got to have
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some kind of say in the on the game plan
and what's going on and running practice and all all
that stuff. I mean, I really I have so much
respect because as much as college football, being a head
coach is a twenty four to seven job for our
entire lives, it's been now it's now it's like twenty
eight seven. You gotta find a way to get twenty
eight hours worth of work into us, you know, into
a into a seven, I mean, into into a twenty
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four hour day, and you gotta find the way to
get nine days worth of work and do a seven
day week. Like, my respect for these guys coming in
that are doing this and succeeding is just off the
charts to something I can't even fathom doing. Well.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
A lot of it's gonna be like being the head
of any level of political processes, because much of your
day is spent shaking hands, kissing babies and working on
the next deal, right, keeping money flowing into the coffers,
and working towards the next campaign, which is this, It's
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not as much the day to day. You're gonna have
to do a lot of delegation along there.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Also to drag in, Northwestern lost one starter.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
On each side of the ball, very influential guys offensive
line all maig ten safety. Didn't even bother to thank
those guys for their services by name, just kind of
said that just beat it. Clearly they'll go somewhere else
and make some money and play meaningful football in twenty
twenty five.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
But the fact of the matter is for.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Coaches, yeah, it's always been we identified programs with long standing,
long established ten years. That's not the way it works anymore, Right,
Guys bouncing from place to place, not only players but
coaches as well. But the administrative side of it. You're
really gonna be building a lot of middle management to
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try to administer to each part of this. All right,
here's three people that are gonna be in charge of
deals and going into the community and finding, you know,
all the local businesses that perhaps we can get to
come on board. Hey, you get some free meals, you
get some free kicks. Here's some cars to drive all
of those kinds of things. Uh, folks that are actually
dealing with the money part of it, Uh, investment strategies,
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banks and and whatever else to make sure that part
of it's flowing. Oh yeah, and then you still have
to go commit to the football side, yeah, and build
game plans, practice schedules, and and flow from there.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
Can I go get dinner first? Now there's no time
to eat. Well, we'll have something brought to you. You
get you have, You have ninety five seconds where you
can stand in this spot and eat whatever I end
to you. Okay, great, that's what I'll do. That'll be
my dinner tonight. But that's it.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
You're on the tread bill like you got one of
those little walking pads. Under your desk. You the treadmills.
You're at your desk, you gott You don't know though,
that you're doing film review in.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Front of you. You got a booster on the headset.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Tell them phone that you're work if they're like your
Madonna and you got the little walking pad underneath. Meanwhile,
you're facetiming your kids, going hey, daddy loves you.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, I'll see you in the morning. I haven't and
I haven't heaven. I have a six hour window where
I can see you in a month and a half,
so write it down. I believe it's you know. I'll
have my assistant get back to you on the day
in the time. But I have a six hour window
all set for you in a month and a half.
I'm looking forward to it. We'll do Christmas then, but Dad,
it'll be February. Yeah, it's fine. Oh wait, that's super Bowl. No, No,
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we'll fit in. We'll fit in. Don't worry about it.
That's wait. Why does your voicemail go to Harry chap
and Dad? Yeah, you really open to you to pick
a better song.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You're making me sad trying to call you to come
to my rehearsal.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Can you teach me to throw? I said, I'll go
see the offensive coordinator. I gotta go call somebody else.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Sign I've assigned someone an hour to work with you
on your throat.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Those are the alternate lyrics to the song Exit Out
Bout of Fresca Exit Swollen Dome. The Jason Smith Show
at Mike Harmon Live Thetirec dot Com Studios. Coming up next. Yes,
college football so red hot with everything going on today,
National Signing Day coming up next. We'll tell you why
the college football playoff is already better than what we've
had in the last few years. It's already better and
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it's something that no one is said we got that. Plus,
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get to a big developing basketball story coming up in
about twenty minutes. It was just it was just ten
days ago where things were unbelievably great for the Lakers.
Oh on a great run. They figured everything out. And
after what head coach JJ Reddick said following their loss tonight,
oh boy, we got problems. Where's that panic button because
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the Lakers are looking to press it. I'm stunned with
what he had to say following the game. We'll gain
We'll have that coming up in about twenty minutes. Go
to town, burn it down, Smith. But something a little
bit different for the college football playoff right because now
we're into the next to last playoff pole. We have
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Championship Week this week, and we went through the controversy
of Alabama over Miami yesterday and the way the College
Football Playoff Committee they haven't done the wrong things, but
they've kind of handled this whole thing very handhandedly. Right,
Like we said, nobody throws stuff up against the wall
and sees what sticks better, and more often than college football,
that's how they come with a playoff idea, let's do
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this and see. But when you hear them come out
and the Playoff Committee say things like, oh, the rankings
of Alabama, you know, won't change from nex till next week.
Miami's ranking won't change because they don't play games. All
of this it's not gonna affect because a conference championship week.
I kind of feel like they've lost the plot a
little bit because in theory, what you're supposed to do
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is is look at the teams and take the whole
season into account. Right. I get that, Hey, you lost
two out of three, you're Miami, you lost to Syracuse,
you lost to Georgia Tech. Yeah that sticks in your
head because yeah, always the committee, the posters, they'll remember November.
They forget September, but everybody remembers November, right, The big phrase.
Mel Kiper used to say all the time, they remember
November in this case, you know, early December. So I
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feel like they need to have a little bit more
control over it because the kind of field like they're
using their arguments just to really more defend what they did,
other than to say it's our of you. Alabama is
a better team, you know, because this is what they've
done all season long. And stick to that, stick to
the whole the whole schedule, the whole season, everything from
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the first week of September all the way till now,
and say this is why Alabama is out of Miami,
not just because of last week, but the three losses
Alabama has had. They've beaten three teams. Miami doesn't have
a win like that on their schedule, not one win
like that. No, they don't. I'm sorry, but they don't.
Like you need to show that, hey we're looking at
the whole body of work and not just hey we're
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knee jerking to what we saw over the last couple
of weeks at the end when teams are vying for
the playoffs because the stakes are getting really high.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
No, I think that's been the process, right, It's the
let's what social media says, and then we just have
to respond in that instead of in the affirmative. Here's
our bullet points of how we got this decision because
you know exactly where the fights are going to be. Right,
when it was four, it was, well, what are three
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and four doing? Well, now that it's twelve, what are eleven, twelve, thirteen,
add two or three more teams that you need to
go and really lay out why they didn't make the
discussion or where the teams when it comes to conference
title games will find their way into that mix and
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be proactive.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
About it, right, say, with authority, here's what.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
We're doing, as opposed to all right, we didn't anticipate this, right.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's like all these coaches when they go.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
In front of the press after gacking away leads or
opportunities in the final minutes of games, right, bad down,
distance decisions, time out management. No, I'm not just talking
about the Bears, but it's perfect and germane to this
conversation is that they always go in they look shell shocked.
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It's like, how dare you ask me that? It's like, no,
you idiots, that's the lead. It's the same thing here
when you're gonna get into the Miami versus Alabama, or
Alabama versus you know, pick the next four teams that
they're in over, especially when you've got to look at
just the giant crooked number that's staring you in the face, right,
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which one of these is not like the other?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
The three.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
That's why there's a plenty of folks that are really going,
Clemson can't win, right, Clemson can't win right, because then
you have a three three lost team that's suddenly jumping
into the top four.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
So all of that to say that.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
You know, there's just that hand ringing that goes on
and revisionist all right, let's be reactioning. It's like, no,
you guys made the decision, it's final, the Miami.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Acc You're sure you don't want to read, you know,
reconsider that. It's like, you know, you're.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Playing checkers or chess or a board game with your
kid and you're like, you sure you want to make
that move. Basically you're telling your kid, don't make that
move because you're about to be bankrupted in monopoly, or
I'm gonna triple jump you in checkers, or.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Don't take your finger off that piece don't take your
finger off that piece, because that means you I'm gonna
get you. Now see by the letter of the law. Look,
you played it. It's done right.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
You're playing scrabble and they realize, oh wow, you could
have had like a fifty letter word and all these
bonuses and whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Now you played it. It's over like Homer's when Homer
doesn't know what word to play and he's got equinox
on his board and he plays no.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Now look now that being said, Okay, here's he Look,
we'll tell you why already this playoff is better than
the fourteen playoff we have. And here's where I'm gonna
use to illustrate this. Let's just say, wipe from your
mind that we have a twelve team playoff this year. Right,
Let's say there's no twelve team playoff and instead it's
a four team playoff. Okay, what are we arguing about
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right now? The twelve team playoff? Boy, should Miami be
in over Alabama? And the reason it's a big deal
is because Alabama and Miami are big schools, incredibly popular schools.
Alabama's been rock stars for the last twenty years, Miami
incredibly popular as well, but really, this is not something
that this is the only topic no, no one else
is talking about. There's no other bit of controversy about
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this list, about the It's about the you know, this
is why I like this, because this is about simply
winning enough games, getting that conversation and get safely in
the top twelve. Right. The only bit of controversy and
drama has been oh look at Miami. Nothing else, right,
nothing else, So understand that. Now you wipe that from
your head and you think, okay, what do we have
(23:49):
right now? Let's just say it was just the four
team playoff? Okay, Right now, the top four teams are Oregon, Texas,
Penn State, and Notre Dame, followed by Georgia, Ohio State,
Tennessee SMU. Right, those are the as your next four.
So what would happen this weekend? Who would make the playoff?
Right now? Oregon Penn State winner one hundred percent, the
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winner of that winner of that is in, and if
Penn State wins, likely Penn State and Oregon would both
get in. So that's two spots, Texas and Georgia. The
winner of that game is in, right and likely if
Georgia beats Texas probably they have two spots as well,
but you never know. Notre Dame is also in at
number four. They're not going to get jumped and left
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out by anybody. Notre Dame be in at number four.
So what are you looking at right now? Okay? On
one on one ray of this, you could say, well, okay,
if Oregon wins, which they probably will, Oregon's in. If
Texas wins, which they should, they're in. Notre Dame's in. Okay,
then what about that fourth spot? Wha wait a minute,
Wait a minute, wait a minute. If that fourth spot happens,
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is it Penn State with two losses? Is it Georgia
with three? Okay, maybe not? But wait, is it Ohio
State eight with two losses? Is it Tennessee with two losses?
Is it SMU who's a C champion at twelve and one? Right?
If SMU loses, is it Indiana who is eleven and
one that gets to jump all the way up the way?
But they lost to Ohio State? But Ohio State lost
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two games. Look how much drama there is and how
many teams are quote being left out. If it was
just a four team playoff, you can look and say
that that the losers of those two of the of
the two the Big Ten and the SEC championship games,
the loser of those two games also Ohio State, Tennessee, SMU,
and to a lesser extent, Indiana. But you're talking about
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four or five other teams that would have just as
big an argument to be in the playoff as anybody else.
Could you really decide between Ohio State and Tennessee? Could
you really break that tie? If you see Penn State
like state, Penn State gets obliterated by Oregon. How do
you break that tie between Ohio State and Tennessee? I mean, really,
how do you do that? You can't? Well, we got
two teams and the two toughest conferences. How do you
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do it?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
All? Right?
Speaker 1 (25:59):
But wait a minute, but what about SMU. SMU would
be a Power five conference champion. They'd be the champion
of the third best conference in all of college football?
Can you really leave them out just because they're SMU? Like,
you have all kinds of drama built in because there
was only four teams. You think about what we were
dealing with yesterday. Now go back to yesterday, Now back
to a twelve team playoff? Oh yeah, oh, we're talking
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about Alabama or Miami, and you're talking about teams getting
in that have had chances to win games and improve
their resume. They're not a team that is SMU that
could say, what do you want us to do? We
lost one game, we won the ACC What else do
you really expect us to do to try to get
in this playoff? I mean, honestly, what else could we
possibly do? All right, let's just say Notre Dame winds
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up getting left out because Georgia wins and Penn State
wins in Oregon and Texas don't drop. No Dame can
say what else could you possibly want us to do?
We won eleven and one against a really difficult schedule. Yes,
we lost in Northern Illinois, I'm sorry, but we beat
a lot of good teams. We beat ranked teams. What
else could you possibly want us to do playing the
schedule going eleven and one? Like, there's so much more
controversy and craziness with the four team playoff? Isn't it
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already better now? Isn't it already better with what we've seen?
And yes, changes probably are gonna come to it because
we're gonna get through the first year of a twelve
team playoff and say, okay, this worked well, this work didn't,
but you can already see that the best part of
this conversation is that we're talking about stuff on the
field and who's gonna win enough to get in and
rather than oh, who's gonna get left out? Right, the
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story now with the twelve team playoff is one team
is left out. That's not really the story is the
seedings and who's gonna play where and who's gonna get
a buye. This is how the playoffs should be, right,
It's not about who's getting snubbed. It's why in the
NCAA tournament comes up and the first day, the first Monday,
for like five hours on Monday morning and afternoon is
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about who gets snubbed, and then that story goes away
and then it's all about the tournament because the tournament
starts the next day and we have first four games.
Like that's the way the conversation is going. Now, Yes,
Miami's gonna be upset. It'll be a story for a
day and a half and then it's gone. But all
these teams left out, like you saw the teams getting
left out last year, Florida State still pissed off they
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got left out last year and they were undefeated. Right, yes,
we lost our quarterback. What else do you want to do?
We won all our games. What else could we possibly do?
Think of the chaos and the argument that has to
go on about we deserve to be in rather than
you did or didn't show enough on the field, which
is much easier to do when you're talking about twelve
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teams versus four.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
No, and that's but the beauty of it again from
the on field product, is that for the final month
of the season, we still have juice and debates and
you know, all the different scenarios that have to be
built in. If nothing else, it gives the broadcasters, you know,
ten minutes of filibustering at least twice during the game
as scenarios plan. Hey wait, we used that graphic in
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the first It's okay. If they're still here, they wouldn't
mind seeing it again. Go ahead, break down all the
scenarios of how this game affects things as it plays out.
So so we get that the rivalry games we saw
still had immense emotion and rolling through like we watched
this with baseball. Right for all the Rob Manford talk
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that we've done, how great the wild card is because
fringe teams are still on the area were going forward,
or we play in our prospects and generally you're getting
meaningful baseball.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Here, we're getting meaningful football.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
And if you didn't get it done, guess what that
means You either were in a subpar conference. That's just Look,
you just have to recognize who you are and what
your conference is in the grand scale of college football.
And I'm sorry if that offends people. Actually I'm really
not at Swollen Dome if I offended you with that statement.
You could be the best of a bad conference. You'll
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get your bids on occasion. But if you stumble, don't
be surprised. If you're outside the top twelve, you can't complain.
Go enjoy your bowl game and the destination whatever that is.
But otherwise we're talkingalking about three loss teams. Like that's
where the line in the sand is. At least here
in here one we're talking about two and three loss teams.
You don't really have a whole hell of a lot
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of an argument if you're a two or three loss team, right,
go win your games, take care of business.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
You know, never leave it up to the judges.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Never leave it up to whatever rankings, whatever human sentiment
comes in. And remember, on the grand scale of it all,
where do you fit on the marquee? If we're we're
booking this for a television show or a movie. If
you're in really small print, guess what you're gonna get
left out?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen down the Jason
Smithson with Mike Carmon Live from the TIREC dot Com Studios.
I mean, it's simple when you look at this year
like it would be last year, and it's easy. It's
easy to see. It's easy to see just this year's
Florida State. Yeah, no one goes to hell. Just that
rest right, think how bad? Because the argument is, hey,
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we're just as good as any of the these other teams
that you let into the top four, and no one
could say anything. Can Miami really say we're just as
good as No, they can't. They didn't play the schedules.
The other teams had chances to win. Don't lose two games,
beat Syracuse, beat Georgia Tech. What you could say, there's
much more room to escape, and there's much more room
to move on and to recover your seasons because of
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the twelve team playoffs so obvious, So Miami had more
than enough chances to get in. I think that's kind
of where we're gonna be as this goes forward. Is
it's gonna be the maybe the one or two teams
were kind of maybe talking about at twelve, but no
one's gonna have as much sympathy for them. The Miami
thing was shocking because you know, look, they were in
the top seven, top eight most of the year. They
were in the top four going into last week. So
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it is a shocking story. You know that they were
that they were left out, but you can't really argue
against You can't say, oh, they didn't have chances where
you as you would be able to say it for
all of these teams. Hey wait a minute, man, we're
twelve and one and won our conference. Wait we're a
two lost team in the SEC. How are we getting
left out of here? And you just have to shrug
your shoulders because it's really hard to make that argument
to say, yes, this team one hundred percent deserves it.
(32:05):
Over you can't do it when there's four, You can
do it much better when there's twelve.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, I understand like all the thought pieces and arguments
still going against Alabama. Look, they had two bad losses,
they had several more good wins, right, so what's the weight?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
And then ty goes to.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
The runner or to the program that brings eyeball and
hate watching. That's really where we're at with this. And
you know Frostburg, he's out here tonight. SHA's in his stead,
So I'll use the line for him. And you lost
to Syracuse.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
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we get off the air. Well, we were kind of
humming along with a non NBA Cup night, and then
all of a sudden, the Lakers said, hang on a second,
we want to get involved in some drama. They get
pasted tonight by the Heat by forty one. Okay, they
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haven't played well the last few nights, okay, and then
head coach JJ Reddick following the game blistered his team, saying, look, physically.
I can't do these things. I can't call out assignments,
I can't call the plays out. I'm not blaming the players,
which when you say that, you kind of are blaming
the players. But he says there needs to be accountability
and he also sees there being no togetherness when they're
(34:34):
in the huddle. Here we are twenty two games into
the season and JJ Reddick may be in over his
head as Laker's head coach. Gee who said that a
few you know, Let's talk to Rick Puker find out
what he thinks about this and more. Fox Sports one
NBA Insider. He is on Twitter at Rick Buker the
On the Ball podcast as well Rick. What's happening, Bud?
How are you?
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (34:55):
I'm enjoying this little respite in between the holidays. So
I hope you guys had a great Thanksgiving by the way.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Uh, yeah, we did. Everything was great. Did you go
out of town? Did you were you in town? What'd
you do?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Nope? Laid low, laid low. My son came home from school.
My daughter is playing basketball right now, so she wasn't
able to come home. So we're gonna go visit her
in a little bit. But no, it it was We're
I'm here in northern California and we've been having unbelievable weather.
So I was on the golf course, I was down
(35:28):
by the ocean. I was kind of doing I was
doing that, uh, that North cal thing around the holidays.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
So it's been better for you than the Lakers the
last few games.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
Man Man, oh Man, oh Man. I would I would
say so, But look, this was this was my thing
from the very beginning. You know. I remember being asked
a question on on f S one when they first
hired hired, did he Reddick? And and I was at
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can JJ Reddick coach this team to a championship?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
He's got to be kidding me, Like, what are we
talking about?
Speaker 4 (36:06):
We've got a first And it's not JJ so much
as you're asking a first year coach who's never really
coached at any significant level to elevate a team that
doesn't have the wherewithal uh to compete for a championship.
They just don't. They don't have the talent at this point.
(36:26):
And Lebron had a great game tonight, But if you
look at what he has been doing of late, it's
I've referred to him as an even player, which is
his good plays are evening out the bad plays. But
for the Lakers to be just competent, he needs to
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be a plus player, and for the most part he was.
I would say up until what we've seen this season,
and maybe even through the first few games, he was
a plus player. But he has been very much an
even player. And the problem is that they just don't
have the talent to take up take up the slack
when when he is that. So I understand the frustration.
I understand the frustration on JJ's part, but I will
(37:12):
say this too, that look, there's a number of things
that have gone on with this team that you can't ignore.
And when you have the whole Ronnie James episode and
you do that, and and then and JJ has to
come out and say, no, you know, he's a legit
player and all this stuff, like when you don't have
a track record as a coach, that erodes whether anybody
(37:34):
says anything or not, that erodes your authority and your credibility.
So now, when when you start getting mad at guys
for not playing, they're like, well, you said some things
that didn't quite make sense to us earlier. So what
exactly should we believe? And so I just I look
(37:55):
at where they are, what they have. I can understand
the frustration, but let's be honest. I mean, we kind
of saw this coming. And here's the this is always
the real test for a head coach, it's not and
for a team, it's not when you're winning as they
(38:17):
were through the first week or two. It's when you
hit one of these bumps, which every team hits. How
are you going to respond to it? How are you
going to pull your team together? And I'm sorry, but
I don't want to hear about all the things that guys,
you know, everybody pointing out what guys aren't doing. I
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want to hear the guy who says, you know what,
it's on me, I need to do this better in
order for us to be better. And I'm not hearing that.
And to me, that suggests that there is no roadmap
out of this. Are the Lakers going to be this
way all year? I wouldn't expect that. But are they
going to have some miracle turnaround? I don't expect that either.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Well, but there's the hard part to it, Rick, is
that you've had to play Lebron eight a night to
get to where you are, which I brought up to
Jason earlier.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I bring it up here.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
They're behind the pace of Darvin Ham's team now with
the same problems and now Magic Johnson calling things embarrassing,
so they've activated him.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Well, yeah, I mean here's the thing. I mean tonight
was just you know, they've had they've had several games
where defensively they're just not giving effort and they're not communicating.
Like this is where you know they propped up Anthony
Davis as being that guy. Well, Anthony Davis, if he's
going to be that guy, has to be a vocal guy,
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and he's never been and he hasn't been here. He's
I've really admired the way he's played over the last
couple of years, and for the most part, how he's
played this year. But you're asking you're asking him to
be something as a as a leader, and a leader
isn't just like your best player or your top scorer
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or any of those things. It's the person who, when
things get a little wobbly, knows exactly what he needs
to do in order for you to play, and he
knows what everybody else needs to do, and he's going
to let them know what it is that they need
to do in order for this team to come back together.
And I just don't see the person on this team
(40:28):
that can fill that role. And you say, well, what
about Lebron, Well, I mean, honestly, Lebron at his age
not surprising. He's playing great for a guy. And we
keep saying this, but now we say it louder. It's
in capital letters. He's playing well for a guy about
to turn forty, not just he's playing well period. And
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with him not playing well, it's like his ability to
make everybody else better simply isn't there. And that's always
been how he's he's led. He's really not that much
of a vocal leader. If you look at the teams
that have won championships, there's always been other guys that
have been those vocal guys. Lebron basically leads by the
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way he plays and by example. And I just like
the bottom line is, they just said it from the
beginning of the years, so I thought it was crazy'd
talk about them as a championship caliber team. They just
they don't have the talent. They have Anthony Davis. They
have a thirty nine year old Lebron James and then
but Austin Reeves. Okay, I mean then what you might
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have three players at best that you could see being
part of a championship equation and the rest are just guys.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Now hang on a second, though, Rick, I mean, I
think you have to give some teams a little bit
of time to get over getting eliminated from the Emirates Cup.
I mean, I think it's going to be a little
bit of recovery for these emotions, the emotional toll they're
going to take them. The Lakers need some time again
they were the champions last year or the Cup.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Yeah, it's did you guys see the clip? There was
a clip I put out on uh of the Lakers
and the Suns, and they were it was looked like
an All Star game. They were just going back and forth,
shooting three, walking up, shooting three, missing them right. And
then somebody, somebody had the audacity to say, well it
was because of the score differential. It's the Emirates Cup.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
And it's like God to kidding me, Like, you know,
I mean, I didn't think they could care less. It's
almost gone the opposite way, and it went there because
that was a that was a cup game, and it
looked like they cared less than they did for a
regular season game. It was almost like, uh, I don't
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any of you guys would have played eighty third game.
Hell no, let's check it over with now.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
It's it's you know, anytime you start going to gimmicks
to try to or you or you try to buy
guys effort, like if we put another can we dangle
another half a mill in front of you? We guys,
please play hard with guys that, you know, for the
most part, are are already have generational wealth. It's like, man,
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we're we're we're trying to put we're trying to put
band aids on this thing, and and and and more serious,
you know, taking this a little more seriously, like the
game is. There are a lot of games that are
very difficult to watch right now because of the number
of threes that are being taken and threes that are
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being missed back and forth. And I don't like the
Sun's Lakers game is a perfect example. The Sons are
up by sixteen, and the Lakers are making no effort
to defend, Like, you don't need to be Sons, you
don't need to be taken threes, and you don't like,
just go to the cup, they're going to let you
go there like you're guaranteed too, Like, go ahead and
(44:03):
take that rather than jacking threes that lead to long
rebounds that actually give the Lakers half a chance. So
just to we always look at it as like a
mathematical equation, it just makes it makes sense to shoot
enough threes. Shoot threes at a thirty five percent clip,
it's better than shooting the twos at a fifty percent clip.
And that's the that's the mathematical equation. Accept accept it
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doesn't take into account time and score. And there's times
where you can punish a team. There's a psychological thing
about a team having to take the ball out of
the basket over and over again if it's and it
doesn't matter whether it's twos or threes, if the team's
constantly scoring, I guarantee you that coach is going to
call a time out to try to fix his defense.
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But when you're shooting threes and sixty percent of them
are not hitting the mark and going the other way,
and you're giving the other team the feeling like we're
still in this. They're letting us still be in and
you know, in the big picture, the NBA is going
to have to figure something out because this is all
trending the wrong direction, and with the Boston Celtic's being
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successful at it, it really doesn't inhibit anybody from saying,
we're going to try to play a different way.
Speaker 1 (45:17):
All right, Rick. Lastly, as you're getting set for the holidays,
here another couple of weeks with you know, a quarter
of the way through the NBA schedule. If I said
to you, positive or negative, the most surprising storyline for
you so far this year in the ending, whether it's
something happened positive, something happening negative, like, hey, I can't
believe the Knicks are scoring one hundred and fifty points
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a game. Whatever it is. Well, what's your biggest surprise
so far this season?
Speaker 4 (45:42):
Yeah? That was that? Was that a plant? I mean,
how much time do we have because if it's like
fifteen seconds and I'll just go, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (45:49):
A bit cho.
Speaker 4 (45:52):
No, I mean, I would have to say what the
Cleveland Cavaliers have done coming out of the gate. I
don't know if they're quite is good, but man I
I I thought that they would hold serve this year
and it still remains to be seen what they're what
they'll be as a postseason team. But the defensive mindset
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that JB. Bickerstaff instilled in this team. And then Kenny Atkinson,
I think, having from what I've heard, a better UH
connection with Donovan Mitchell has has sprung this team UH
to a new level. And and obviously Devin Mobley coming
(46:36):
making good on on whatever everybody anticipated that he could be.
He looks like a different player this year pretty much
at both ends of the court, but especially offensively. So
to me that you know, outside obviously obviously offensive juggernaut. Yeah,
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that would be the Cows plus second, there you go.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
He's on Twitter. At Rick Buker that is at Rick
Buker check out is on the Ball podcast in which
he's gonna break down the MVP chances for Big Bodega. Rick,
thanks a bunch as always, Buddy, We'll talk to you.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
The things you get me to stay on this show
is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Shaved forever. Rick, see you, buddy, We'll talk to you
next week.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
I have a great one.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
You're the best. Right now, he's looking up Big Bodega.
Let's find out what's trending in the wide world of sports,
and someone you can tell how upset she is over
the Clippers tonight just by the tone of her voice
when she gives you the score of the game. It's
Moncey Belanos.
Speaker 6 (47:42):
I don't even know where to start, Jason, don't. I
don't even know what to say here, but I will
say there's no stat padding on the Clipper side because
none of the starters are playing in this blowout game here,
unlike the LA But we'll get there.
Speaker 1 (47:55):
It's stat patting on the other side, Monse.
Speaker 6 (47:57):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's just been
literally all Timberwolves on this entire Game's quite embarrassing.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
So one hundred and seventy six to four, that's exactly it.
Speaker 6 (48:07):
And those four came from abatz Zubats because James Harden
has only made one shot. So after I yelled at halftime,
he heard and he said, I'm just gonna make one shot.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (48:17):
And that's exactly what it did. One o three seventy
three is a score with two minutes to go in
this one, But just call it a rap, you know
what I'm saying, Like, do we have to finish out
these two minutes, but I guess we do. Celtics beat
the Pistons one thirty to one twenty Jaylen Brown led
the way twenty eight point six rebounds, nine assists. The
Nets took down the Pacers ninety nine to ninety and
the Lakers lost to the Heat one thirty four to
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ninety three. Tyler Hero nine threes in the game for
a total of thirty one points. Lebron James still playing
in the fourth quarter to get his twenty nine points
and eight assists. The Magic beats seventy six Ers one
oh six to one oh two, while the Hawks snapped
the Bucks seven game winning streak, coming out on top
one nineteen to one oh four. Still got some college
hoops going on right now. Number twelve Oregon now on
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top of USC they were losing not anymore. Sixty two
to fifty seven is a score with two and a
half minutes to go in the game. Number twenty four
San Diego State has pulled away from Fresno State in
the second half, seventy to fifty one, less than six
minutes to go in that one. While Number five Marquette
lost to number six Iowa State eighty one to seventy
but the real story is Creighton handing the number one
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team in the country Kansas is their first loss of
the season, a seventy six to sixty three win, and
Mississippi State crushing Number eighteen Pittsburgh ninety to fifty seven.
Number nine Duke. They beat Number two Auburn eighty four
to seventy eight. Number ten Alabama took down number twenty
North Carolina victory also for number thirteen Florida and number
twenty five Yukon who took down number fifteen Baylor seventy
(49:40):
six to seventy two. Little NFL news for you, like
Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence, who was placed on ir with
a concussion concussion earlier today. Then it was reported that
he is going to have surgery on that ac joint
injury in his left shoulder in the coming week, so
his season really is over. Mac Jones is going to
be taking over the starting quarterback job in Jacksonville for
Week fourteen. The The Giants are seeking with Drew Locke
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as their starting quarterback against the Saints, while the Ravens
have suspended wide receiver Deontay Johnson for one game for
contact detrimental to the team. Apparently, he refused to go
into the game this past Sunday against the Eagles, so
he's gonna miss Week fifteen against the Giants.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
Back to you, guys, Thank you, mon appreciate it. The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the tirect
Hot Cob Studios