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January 10, 2025 51 mins

Jason and Mike open this "Best Of" edition of the show reacting to a wild College Football Playoff matchup between Notre Dame and Penn State, and discussing whether Friday's Ohio State vs. Texas game should be seen as a de facto National Championship. Later, the guys are joined by CollegeFootballNews.com owner and proprietor Pete Fiutak to weigh in with his own thoughts. Finally, Jason and Mike get into Georgia QB Carson Beck's decision to enter the transfer portal rather than enter the NFL draft as he'd originally announced.

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(00:53):
In regulation, Notre Dame is punting away to Penn State.
Notre Dame had the football near mid field. A hands
to the face personal foul penalty gave Notre Dame a
first down just on the Penn State side of midfield.
They were about twelve yards away from a field goal. However,

(01:13):
Penn State. Their defense comes through whatever was dialed up worked.
Notre Dame's offensive line was completely overmatched. Riley Leonard had
no chance all three plays. He got sacked on third
and five. So Notre Dame has just punted. So now
there's forty seven seconds left to go. Penn State does
have the football at their own fifteen yard line. They're

(01:35):
gonna have to try to do something here because Notre
Dame does have three timeouts, so they could potentially stop
Penn State and get the football back. Just remains to
be seeing how aggressive Penn State's going to try to
be as there, you know, would be looking for overtime. However,
a couple of big plays, you never know, we get
a time out and we can maybe kick a field
goal first down, run gains a first down. It's a

(01:56):
gain of twelve thirty seven seconds left to go. The
clock is still ticking. I don't believe that Penn State
is calling a timeout. Whoever, it's first and ten for
them now, yeah, but I don't think I think they're
gonna let it. They reset the clock back to forty
and I don't know, no timeout. Penn State's going on

(02:16):
the fly. So here they are a pass is just intercepted.
The pass is intercepted, Aller is picked off just inside
of midfield with thirty three seconds left to go. No
tre Dame has three timeouts and thirty three seconds for
a game winning field goal. Penn State had momentum, they

(02:36):
got a little greedy. Aller was running to his left.
He tries to throw back across the field to his right,
and he is picked off in midfield. It is a
huge play by No. Tre Dame. They now have the
ball at the Penn State forty two yard line, so
even if they gain no yard, you're talking about maybe
a fifty nine yard field goal to try to win

(02:57):
the game. At the end, Aler leaves the field with
his hand over his head. And when it looked like
Penn State it just had some time, they make a huge,
huge mistake that interception. Mike Carman will go down on
Drew Ailah's record. That will be done. It does look
like it will. Yeah, it will be counted, and we
will talk about that at the end of the game.
Now a game of big haymakers and counterplays. They're looking

(03:20):
at it to make sure that Gray came down with it.
He's got both hands under the football when he hits
the ground. That is a Notre Dame interception and they're
going to have the ball first and ten at Penn
State's forty two yard line. Wow, we've had big plays,
we have big turnovers. I mean, to see what you want.
The first half was absolutely terrible, Mike. The second half
has been great from an entertainment perspecive.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Some absolute chaos down the stretch here, Aller felt the
pressure wings it thinking that Amari Evans is going to
be able to.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Break inside of Gray.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Instead, it's a good three feet out in front of
him in a great diving catch by Gray to secure
the interception, and he hugged that thing like it was
his firstborn, as he was this is mine.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, I mean, in a game in which Drew Aller
has made bad decisions, that was absolutely the worst because
this is I'm gonna try to do it coming back.
I'm gonna try to do it coming back and throwing
across my body like I don't know how. You say, Hey,
that's where you get too greedy and you think, okay,
this play is not here, and if I take a

(04:23):
sack or something happens, we're gonna wind up going to
overtime and you got a little too greedy and you
make a bad throw. Look any quarterback trying to throw
back across his body. That doesn't work. Only a couple
of guys in the history of the NFL can could
make that happen, and Drew Aller is not one of No.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
That's the epitome of the I've got a strong arm.
Watch me as my body's going one way and I'm
gonna wing it back the other thirty second turnover for
caused by this Notre name defense on the year as
they try to bring it out, because you know what
it sets things up for Jeeta.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
The captain. The captain could come in for a game
winning fear call. Jina.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Now just a terrible decision by Aler. There live to
fight another day. You still have two timeouts if you
want to try to set things up. You'd gotten such
an easy first down on that run that preceded this play.
You see the breakdown. Great pass rush from Notre Dame
forces the early decision by Aler and just wings it

(05:25):
terribly into the arms of a waiting Gray. And now
we've got twenty nine seconds remaining for a trip to
the championship.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
Now I want to say this, twenty nine seconds left
to go, time out on the field. Notre Dame really
approaching field goal range. Now Ryda Leonard has a run
for five yards. This is a great game, right, This
is a great game. It's competitive. These are two of
the best teams in the country. I have a hard
time believing either of these teams can beat either Ohio

(05:53):
State or Texas. I mean Ohio State, mande because Ohio
State's a better team than Texas, but you never know,
something crazy could happen. Texas has been really good, but
these two they just seem so limited compared to the
compared to Ohio State in Texas almost like tomorrow night.
That's the de facto national that's the de facto National
championship game with Ohio State and Texas because boy, you know,
not tre Day, neither team really has enough offensively and

(06:16):
you're gonna have to do stuff because look, Ohio State's
gonna bludgeon you with running packs down the field, and
Texas can throw you see what viewers can do going
up and down the field, the playmakers, they have a
wide receiver. I really I have a hard time believing
either of these teams can stay on the field with
either Ohio State or Texas. I mean, it's great, it's
great opportunity to get here and get to the National Championship.

(06:36):
But I'm looking at tomorrow night like this is the
de facto National championship game.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
No, I appreciate the sentiment, but remember once upon a
time Ohio.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
State did lose to Michigan. They did, they did, But
as Michigan, are they playing Michigan tomorrow, Mike Carmon if
they're playing Michigan.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
But then you still have to get to the twentieth right,
there's still a week and a half from there. We
got a whole football game to play. Craziness that in sues.
It's gonna be a very hard hitting sixty minutes of
football plus, so you know, walking out of those games,
I'm not predicting pain, devastation and injury on anybody.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
But I think you are.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
But I'm a realist, and I think you're predicting pain
and devastating. You got to get through that game, and
then you've got a week and a half to prepare,
find a wrinkle, find a play. And in this one,
you know you've watched Notre Dame. They dispatched of Georgia.
And yes, I know Carson Beck coming back to school
didn't play, but you took down Gunner Stockton in company.

(07:34):
All right, Georgia was supposed to be the best and look,
that was not an aesthetically pleasing game. We can all
stipulate to that, but succeed and proceed ugly it up.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
So what is happening right now in the game. There
are fourteen seconds left to go and Notre Dame is
deep in Penn State territory. They have a first and ten.
Now second and ten at the Penn State twenty five
after spiking the football a big third and three play,
Penn State sends three rushers from the from the left

(08:06):
side and Riley Leonard is able to run to run
left and keep enough time to hit Jaden Greathouse for
a pass for a first down. Great House gains ten yards,
so that gave them the first down, just enough escapability
to be able to make that play happen. So now
Jetersburg will come out for a potential game winning field goal.

(08:28):
There are ten seconds left to go. Notre Dame still
has a time out left. Penn State has just taken
their second time out. I say they're gonna come out
for a field goal because on second down and ten,
Riley Leonard just took the ball and moved a few
yards to the hash mark that Jeter would want the
ball on. So I can't believe they're gonna RUNO. Maybe
they run one more play of just hey, you know,

(08:50):
straight ahead. Now we do something because we have the
time out left. But you know clearly that play was
just set up where the field goal wanted. They want
the ball in the right hash So with time out
on the field right now, it looks like Notre Dame's
gonna just try to go ahead for whatever extra yards
they can get here straight ahead, and then it's going
to be Jeter out for a game winning field goal.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, they just put four seconds back on the clock.
Maybe that changes the math in this in terms of
we've seen crazy stuff, bears of things that can go
wrong on potential hail Mary's and such. I know they're
only fifteen yard penalties at all in college football, but
you know all of that just to say leave nothing

(09:27):
to chance. So they do run the ball and move
it ahead a couple of yards here, get a couple
more ticks off of the clock. But yeah, just absolute insanity.
Edge of the seed. I'm actually now starting to stand
up here. I'm, you know, tapping the toes. The adrenaline
starts going cuz college kickers.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Man.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
They just put up the graphic as if to say
we want overtime.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Leonard runs for two yards. It look like they had
a wide formation, almost looking like hey, maybe we could
actually throw the football here. But then Leonard run under center,
gets the snap, goes straight ahead for two yards like
we said was probably gonna happen. So now it's going
to be a forty yard field goal, likely for the
national championship game because Penn State will get the but

(10:14):
there will be a kickoff. They will get the ball
back at some point because the officials just keep putting
time back on the car a second back. It was
ten seconds left and they put four seconds back on
for fourteen seconds, right, Leonard runs it for four yards. Okay,
time out Penn State. Now now they put two seconds
back on the clock. How is that only a two seconds?
I don't know, I don't know. So now there he's

(10:34):
down whatever. So there is officially twelve seconds left in
the game and Mitch Jeter is on for field goal
that could potentially send Notre Dame to the National Championship
game twenty four to twenty four, and his kick looked
like it was gonna maybe dovetail a little bit to
the right, but it stays true seven seconds left. Jeter's

(10:56):
field goal is good. No Tre Dame is celebrating in
the States. James Franklin is looking around like what happened
to us? So post game?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Yeah, I mean, Jeter's field goal looked like you saw
the ball just kind of take one of those real
weird dovetails off to the right. You're like, oh, it's
gonna dive and then it stays straight and then it's dead.
So perfect actually gets through right in that that was
probably like three tenths of a second. That took lives

(11:27):
off of every Notre Dame fans life. Like when that
ball that that that three tenths of a second where
that ball just ditched to the right a little.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Bit, it's like, oh, my goods. Oh it's good. Okay, okay, okay.
So we have a kickoff coming and maybe it's the
final play, maybe it's one play after that, but Notre
Dame has to defend seven seconds and they will be
on to the National championship game.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Yeah, coming into the game, we're not talking about a
guy who'd been operationally efficient throughout the year, So a
little bit of a roller coaster. But he knocks it
in here, first kicker in the playoff history to kick
a go ahead field goal successfully. They were zero for
four before that attempt.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
He was Mitch Jeter was six out of twelve for
field goals in the regular season. Huh. But like Jeter
in the playoffs, Jeter was great now in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Hisstory January, let's go come on now, and I am
and I am.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Man, I mean that, I mean that's cheeta. So Jeter
coffee John and Penn State's gonna let the ball bounce
into the end zone. No time off. They actually put
another second back on the clock, so there's eight seconds
left now for Penn State. They went from fourteen to ten,
from ten to twelve, from twelve to to seven, and

(12:49):
now to eight. So likely it's going to be one
last play for Penn State. Eight seconds left. They have
no timeouts, They have the ball at the twenty five
yard line, and we are going to be one crazy
hook and ladder lateral kind of play away from Notre
Dame running on the field and celebrating here again. Twenty
seven to twenty four at the Orange Bowl, eight seconds

(13:11):
left to go. The under completely it was blown out
after the big run in the fourth quarter, Drew Aller
throws incomplete, tried to get one more to the sideline.
Looked like they were trying to set up one quick
one to the sideline and then maybe a hail Mary. However,
Notre Dame is on it. He had to throw it away.
So now four seconds left. This will be the baring

(13:32):
I always like to say, barring a penalty, this will
be the final play of the game, or absolute chaos
as you broke, which we've seen many times. We've seen
that chaos happen, and you know it's it's it's it's
gonna wind up being one of those big lateral plays.
And the lateral play is over. Notre Dame are your

(13:56):
winners of the Orange Bowl. They try to throw a
big hook in Lilay. The pass goes to Warren. Warren
pitches it back to a receiver who tries to throw
it all the way back across the field, except he
throws it out of bounds little too far. The ball
is out and now No Tre Dame is in the
National Championship Game for the first time since twenty thirteen.

(14:16):
The Golden Domers are on the field, the Golden helmets
are flying. Marcus Freeman and James Franklin are talking at midfield,
what a journey from losing to Northern Illinois and thinking
this Notre Dame team stinks, it's over. They can't do anything.
Raise your head if you said back, I did. I
said it right after that game. You don't come back
from losing the Northern Illinois. I don't care for la

(14:38):
Shawn Johnson is playing or not hover. They have shown nothing,
but we are taking care of business from that moment
on and here they are in the National Championship Game.
I don't care that in playing a conference, I don't
care that in play anywhere else. They won their way through.
They had a disadvantageous schedule when it came to playing
many more top twenty five teams, and you would, but

(15:00):
that's what Notre Dame does. It's how they play the schedule.
They have dangerous games, they make it through the gauntlet.
They're in the National Title Game and you know, now
we wait and see who they play tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Now when it's all said and done, in this process,
Notre Dame for all the people crying like James Franklin
tried to do in the precursor to this, right before
he tried to son Marcus Freeman, like he was talking
about conferences and all this stuff, like when you have
clout in any walk of life, in your job.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
You use it.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
And Notre Dame certainly has adding more to the coffers here.
Pirate Steve's gonna come out with a giant chest of
cash and gold coins here in a minute, Drew Aller
eleven of twenty two in this game one thirty nine
and the interception, what's interesting about it? Not a single
reception by a wide receiver for the Penn.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
State and Nitney lines tonight.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Congratulations to Marcus Freeman and the Notre Dame fighting Irish
getting through and now awaiting and whatever's going on in
the locker room. Flew blue Bug, big game, Jitters, whatever
it is, you got a while to wait for your
next opponent.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
So Jeter in the playoffs, Jeter, like Jedd, like the captain,
like the cat, didn't you live in space? Didn't took
you a Hall of Famer? Jeter, showing that if your
name is Jeter, you have to show up in the playoffs,
and he does. No tre Dame are your Orange Bowl champions.
We'll break down this game coming up next, including we'll
talk about the play that sparked all of this, the

(16:30):
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(18:17):
There are now three teams left in the college football playoff.
The winner of Ohio State and Texas tomorrow gets no
Tra Dame who pulls off the twenty seven to twenty
four win over Penn State a Mitch Jeter field goal.
Mitchie me Derek, Derek me Mitchie to win the game
and send Notre Dame onto the national Championship. Joining us

(18:40):
now in the hot line to break it all down.
Nobody better than the owner, editor, proprietor of College Footballnews
dot com, your one stop shopping for everything college football,
all the prognostications, all the picks, everything you could possibly want.
Pete Feutac has he's with us now. He right out

(19:02):
of the gate. I want to say this. Let's talk
about snubs. Was Northern Illinois snub for the playoff? Northern
were they snub Yes or no? Where they snubbed?

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Hey guys, what's happening?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Hear you there?

Speaker 4 (19:14):
I can't hear you.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Oh, I have my great line as it was Northern
Illinois snub for the playoff?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:22):
By the way, how many?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
How many?

Speaker 4 (19:23):
What's the age cut off on? People who know who
Derek Cheeter is?

Speaker 1 (19:27):
He does commercials now he doesn't one with the with
the insurance.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
What's the age cut off on? Anybody who's actually seen
a commercial.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Oh wow, Well if you're watching, if you're watching live sports,
you are watching commercials.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Yeah, except the kid, you know, they'll pause it and
then fast forward it. So yeah, it was great, great game.
I mean, like looks the National Championships kind of tomorrow night.
I mean, because Notre name it's a plucky team, God
love them, you know, but if Ohio State, you know,

(20:04):
shows up and wants to really try and play like
they play, they can't. This is the third best team
in the Big Ten and that's about as good as
Penn State could look until they didn't. And then for
some reason, I just you know, things just sort of
you know, turned off. Notre Dames woke up and turned
it on, and wow, it was pretty pretty amazing the

(20:26):
second half of football and crazy ending and somehow Notre
Dame just finds a way to get it done. It's
insane how this team was getting buried. You know, they
should have been rocked by the Georgia lines, and then
tonight they're getting killed by a duel carter and the
Penn State line, and then all of a sudden they're
taking a field goal to win a game. I don't

(20:47):
know quite how.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
We lose Pete. Pete got taken out. Maybe maybe there's
a Penn State fan in Pete house.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Hey, you live in Big ten country.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
You have not like it anyway. Notre Dame, No, they're
not Big ten. We keep basking the They keep saying, no,
you can't say the Penn State is there. You can't
say that will get Pete back. But look, hey, you
know being beats on my side with this. I think
that the de facto national Championship game is tomorrow night
because Texas beats Notre Dame too. Both these teams are
too loaded. Of the two teams. Look, Ohio State's better,

(21:26):
they have the better roster, they're playing better football. But
still Texas is still incredibly talented and they'll be able
to put points on the board. Look Penn State and
Penn State has no offense and they put twenty four
on tonight against Notre Dame. So I don't know what
Texas would do. And my goodness, if Penn State ran
for one hundred and eighty yards tonight on Notre Dame,
can you imagine Ohio State would have two hundred yard

(21:48):
rushers in the game. It would be absolutely insane. H Pete.
I was just saying that I was with you. I
think the de facto national title game is great for
Notre Dame, but the winner of Ohio State Texas is
going to.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Win the title probably and let's see, I mean hopefully
Notre Dame makes it tough, but at some point all
these injuries have to have to be a prominent looked
like tonight was the night where it's like, Okay, they
just lost two more offensive linemen off a line they
couldn't afford to lose any more players off of. Then
you know, Bill, they found a way to get it done.

(22:19):
But you're right, I mean, it's gonna have to take
something big. And for this Notre Dame team, it's all
about the turnovers and takeaways. And you know, after Riley
Leonards threw that second pick, because the only other game
this year he threw two picks with Northern Illinois, I
was like, okay, well that's there. They're not to win
the turnover battle. Then through our even did him a

(22:39):
solid and there we go.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, that was a terrible, uh terrible read there by
Riley Leonard. But zero completions to wide receivers from the
benn State side of things. Uh, and James Franklin after
being pretty boisterous and trying to be uh, you know clown.
Everybody yesterday in press conferences can't wait to see his post.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Bete be really good.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
Actually give them credit. I mean, it is the toughest game,
that's tough of boss that you can have. After something
like that. They were right there, Drew Allen got up
there and he answered every question he was. I mean,
for a college kid, it was pretty impressive. And yeah,
what Franklin the stints? I mean, I think he's what
like one in eighteen. Now he has top five teams,
which is always kind of a bad, bad look, especially

(23:23):
when all those games were against you know, Michigan, Ohio
State or someone obviously really huge. But they had him,
they had him and his quarterback to a bad, bad pick,
and just I'm not quite sure what else they could
have done because they kept going to Tyler Warren. How
do you say no to that? And the running game
was working, the offensive line was killing the Irish, So

(23:45):
how do you step away from what seemed to be working?
And then all of a sudden, you know, Notre Dame
did what they hadn't done all year, which they had
to come from behind, they were down and needed a
touchdown drive with four minutes to go, and they've scored ten.
I went from the final four minutes that that's not
really what Penn State or Nor Dame was doing all year.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
You know, Pete, I want to go back because Notre
Dame was they were flatlining in this game. And then
in a weird way, you know, Riley Leonard gets dinged
up and he goes to the medical tent and all
of a sudden, Steve Angeli comes in and he's thrown
right in the game, which is the right time to
have a back up committing No, no, don't have to worry,
don't don't worry about throwing warming up nothing, go right
in and he gets them down for a field goal,

(24:27):
goes six out of seven, has the big fourteen yard completion,
and I felt like life was was pumped back into
Notre Dame at that point where I don't if they
go into halftime down ten nothing and nothing is working,
I don't know what happens in the second half, but
I felt like that moment when Angelly comes in and
suddenly it's a ten to three game like that gave
them life. Where they had none up until that point.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
He caught a huge break because that duel Carter couldn't
reach in with his arm right that he you know,
as good as he was, he was playing with one
arm because that other one didn't work. And when he
doved for it, he couldn't get the fumble that was
right there and got shoved out and didn't want to
injure it further or whatever I mean, you like would
like you know, shied away from it, but you just

(25:07):
couldn't physically do it. And Norday recovers the fumble on
the stack and the place as eleven, and you're right,
give them craft because at that point you're right the
work nothing was happening, and so just turnle loose. Just
go out there, kid, and just start and rip it
and grip it and rip it and start throwing. And
all of a sudden, after getting dominated totally in the
first half, it's ten to three, and like you said,

(25:28):
you think that deal like he just got destroyed. It
seemed like Thorda or Fen stated the ball for twenty
nine minutes and you're only down seven. You'll then you
get the ball coming out in the second half and
a great deal for the Irish.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, that was the crazy thing.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Looking at the time of possession, yardage, all of that
stuff at the end of the half, It's.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Like, wait, the time of possession is that close?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
And obviously been State had had their their will on
the offensive line being able to run the ball as
effectively as they did, So when it came out a halftime,
we were on airpeed and looking at it and going
all right, do you dance with who brung you? Or
do you go with the hot hand given that you
had that big offensive explosion to get that field goal,
and instead Lendon comes back out and they're able to

(26:08):
run it straight down with Carter missing a number of
plays on that earlier field goal drive and clearly impaired
as the second half began.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Yeah, and it's someone who has been concussed several times
and including at the Orange Bowl, by the way, with
an orange. Yeah. But I got hit in the head
with an orange thrown by the Seawan Watson after the game.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
That was cool but good. You could have made money
on that man. You could have made a lot of
catch on that.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
I don't blame him, I blamed the guy who was
in front of me, who whiffed and the orange went
right to his hand and I saw it hit me
right in the middle.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Of the head.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
AnyWho, the runner letter gets up. He was walking to
the opposite sideline, and it's like, here's a college kid here,
and Buddy put him out there again and apparently, you know,
I was right with the world. And it's the timing
actually turned out to be perfect because there was still
about two thirty less in the first half when Jelly,

(27:07):
and Jelly comes in and was able to go and
then gave that gave Leonard about a half hour of
real time to kind of, you know, clear whatever it
was up and for him to get right and then
all of a sudden he'd be able to pass the
test and get back out there and and we had
a great game. And it's interesting to watch some of
the postgame commentary and stuff. People didn't really watch him

(27:30):
this year. I'm still convinced that I'm not joking that
not a lot of people watch Notre Dame, but especially
because after they know they don't anoy game. There weren't
a lot of big games to play this Florida State
stunk and the scheduled and that great and they were
on Peacock alf the time, but Ryny Leonard could throw
and he was a pretty accurate passer. He didn't do
anything crazy this year, but he's a better passer than

(27:52):
he got credit for this year, and he certainly showed
up in this and proved he's not just the runner.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Pttech College Footballnews dot Com our guest The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmon, live from the Tirerack dot Com studios.
All right, Pete, where do you come down? It looked
like it was going to be a really big play
that was going in Penn State's favor. The interception that
gets overruled in the end zone because of pass interference.
The defender had his hands up in Warren's face, but
the ball was really underthrown and it was picked off.

(28:21):
You know, when when I saw that, I said, I
get letter of the law that that's a pass interference
because the defensive back doesn't turn around and you got
to keep his hands up. But when a ball is
underthrown like that, like I think you have to reassess
how you throw a flag in that situation when the
ball's three yards behind the receiver, I don't know that
you can throw a flag there at that point.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah, I have to fully admit I'm not a thousand
per sure, I guess I don't. In the probes, you
can't do that, but in college you can, like Stan
in front of the guy if you're not touching him,
you know who cares and the whole turn your head thing.
I think it's just an NFL thingecting. I could be
very wrong in this, but touch them. I mean like
he kind of hit the arm a little bit, but

(29:03):
he didn't impede Tyler Warren's ability to get to the
play because zager Wats was in front of him making
the catch. So it was a huge break for Penn
State and they capitalized off that. And again, you know,
throughout this game, it's like, Okay, what did Norreidame do
All year? They were the number one team in the
country and points of turnovers, and all of a sudden,

(29:24):
Penn State had ten points off the turnovers and Nordame
and Nevedi and it just seemed like, Okay, this is
you know, nor Dame fighting and battling, but Penn States
is going to pull this thing out. And again, all
of a sudden, it just this team just sort of
did it. So Now it'll be interesting to see whether
Ohio State or Texas the c if Nordame can really
handle all the speed and all the talent, assuming that

(29:47):
quin he weers and is healthy and or assuming that
everyone's right for Ohio State to see if they can
do this against the team of that caliber. But look,
they beat India, they beat Georgia, now they beat Penn State.
That's not a bad run. There's there's another cheap about
this run to get to the national championship.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
Nice little run from Marcus Freeman and company. All right,
Ohio State favored by six tomorrow, Pete, how do you
see this one playing out?

Speaker 4 (30:10):
If they show up like they did the first two games?
Forget it. I mean, Tennessee is good, you know, and
Oregon is the undefeated number one team, and those both
of our life scrimmages for the squad, and that's this
is the game. This is what the Ohioiate team was
supposed to do all season. This is the team that
had more money than everyone else. They could afford Chip

(30:32):
Kelly as its offensive coordinator, and they just have more talent.
They just the offensive line that was supposed to be
a such a concern that got manhandled by Michigan all
of a sudden. It's been great over the last two games.
As long as they come out aggressive and just keep
playing like they know that they're the best team in
the country, they'll be fine. Texas are gonna have it.

(30:53):
It's gonna it'll get a shots in. Quinny Ors will
complete sixty five percent of his passes. They're gonna march
up and down the field. They've got the speed, they've
got the offensive line to hold up. I just don't
think they're going to do it for a full four quarter.
So if you if you like Ohio State to win,
I seek for six is pretty good.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
You can fall on Twitter at Pete Feutech. That is
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are one stop shopping for everything college football, all the picks,
all the analysis. It is there. Pete is always thanks
and we'll talk to you tomorrow night after Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
Texas absolutely then two more weeks of college football.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
After that, let's go, let's finish it strong. Enjoy the night, Pete.
We'll talk to you about two more weeks. You know,
it's funny. My wife said to me today we're watching
the Notre Dame Penn State game, and uh, you know,
before before the show, and you know, she's not rooting
for either team. I said, hey, look, one of them
is going to lose, you know, that's all you look,
one of them is gonna lose. It's gonna be heartbreak

(31:51):
for one. And she goes and she just says, yeah,
it's just I can't get over this. It's it's the
middle of January. We're still watching college football and we
still have another week and a half to go. And
I said, yeah, isn't it great? And she goes, ah.
I'm like, okay, are we really have college football extended
playoff fatigue at one week into the new year? Fatigued?

(32:13):
This season's too long, too much stuff going on. It's
too long.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Wait, too long, Michigan, we're still playing. No, she'd be
just fine, uh yeah, you know, but I know folks
are saying that's like, hey, we're already at you know,
January ninth, and it's gonna be January tenth.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
We're still playing college football. It's like, yeah, it's great.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, say their every last one of them. You don't
have to love every last one of them. It's like
that week eighteen in the National Football League season. You
may not have liked it, you may have hated your
team throughout your season, but then you're gonna.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
Miss it, you know. I think honestly, you could probably
start the playoff a week earlier. I think you could
probably start the playoff a week earlier and then still
take that long break, right, still take that break over
the because look, you don't want to play a game
right before Christmas, right after Christmas, then come back on
New Year's Day, and you know, and but then you're

(33:04):
only having New Year's Day and it's one more week, right, Like,
if you have the two semi final games on New
Year's Day and then the national title is the next week,
I think you can do that. So I mean, and
now we'd finish right around now, which is great, Okay, great.
You know, we've pushed past January first. Then it was
for a long time it was the bowl games on

(33:24):
January first, and that was it. Right then it was okay,
bowl games and then the National title game on January second.
Then it got pushed to January fourth, January fifth. We're
moving around the money. Now we're going to be in
the middle of January. We're gonna be there, they're gonna
play the Eventually, they're gonna play the championship game the
day before the Super Bowl. But I think if you
started just a week earlier, which you probably could because
school is still somewhat in session, if you want to

(33:46):
start a week earlier in December, you know, take the
next week off. You don't want to play the second
week of December, but you know, we'll give them that
week off to go and then start playing the next week.
Then you could finish about a week earlier. But again,
maybe that's a change for next year. Maybe it's something
and they see they see the TV ratings, they want
to do something differently or they want to keep it
the same. But like you know, like we've talked about

(34:07):
this entire playoff run, there's a lot of things that'll
be tweaked a little bit differently next year, which is
to be expected because here's the first year of a
twelve team playoff. We want to see how things play
out before we wind up changing.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
And they're also gonna say, boy, how do we get
Ohio State, Texas, Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
We gotta get Michigan in next year, we gotta get
any and we gotta get all these teams. We gotta
get Belichicken North Carolina in next year. You know all that.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
You want to talk about the perfect convergence of things
and come.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
On, exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Love from the Tireraq
dot com studios. Coming up next, we will have more
breakdown of this incredibly close game. Notre Dame is moving on,
Penn State's going home. Plus, how about another big college
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(34:56):
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Speaker 1 (36:26):
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon live
from the tirereg dot com studios, where Notre Dame escapes
thanks to a field goal from Jea MITCHI Meet Derek, Derek,
Meet Mitchie. Twenty seven twenty four is your final. Notre

(36:47):
Dame moves on to the national Championship. They will take
on the winner of Ohio State and Texas tomorrow. Thanks
to Pete Futech for stopping bio this a few minutes ago.
And look, I gotta tell you mag it is not
to rain on Notre Dame's parade, but obviously we tak Okay.
How do they match up against They match up against
Texas a little bit better, right, They don't match up
well against Ohio State at all. Again, you heard Pete

(37:08):
say it. They're the third Penn State was the third
best team in the Big Ten, and here is Ohio
and here is Notre Dame, barely getting by. Ohio State
has one hundred million dollars roster, and they needed to
play games and get past the Michigan lost and they did.
They're a great front running team, which is the big
thing about Ohio State. They got to get out to
a lead tomorrow against Texas. But even Texas is more

(37:30):
talented and they can put more points on the board.
Like I think, like this this is the the nadir
for Notre Dame and for Penn State. This was the
winner of this game. This is as far as they're
going to get because the other side of the bracket
is just too difficult. I guess we look at it
like we're looking at college basketball. Hey, you had a
couple of teams win. This side of the bracket is
more difficult. But Ohio State and Texas, you're talking about

(37:51):
the two teams that were, you know, right behind Oregon
being the best team in the country, you know, and
Texas was number one for a while and then Oregon
was number one, and Ohio State was never outside the
top three until the lost to Michigan. So I mean,
you're looking at two teams that are just infinitely more talented.
And why I love the fact that Notre Dame plays
over their heads. You know, defensively they play over their heads. Offensively,

(38:14):
they play over their heads. Marcus Freeman's a phenomenal head coach.
At seven wins now against top twenty five teams. This year,
it's going to be a different kind of animal when
they take on either Ohio State or Texas. They have
a better shot against Texas because I've seen quinn ewers
have bad games. I've seen quin you were throw the
football to the other team. I can see where Texas
it might be struggling a little bit. You saw them

(38:35):
barely escape a week ago in a game they probably
should have won by two touchdowns. So maybe things are
a little bit more difficult for them. They could be
nearing the end. I mean, I expect Ohio State to
win tomorrow night, but I think either team is going
to come in as an overwhelming favorite over Notre Dame,
and either of these teams are gonna wind up winning
the game over the Irish by a lot.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Yeah, we'll find out from our guy Todd Furman coming
up in about fifteen minutes from now as he joins
US Live from Vegas. Any questions to ask him college
football the playoff weekend ahead, But certainly yeah, overmanned and
a lot of injuries that we need to see how
much gets rectified. Right, You had one of your linemen
leave for Notre Dame early in this one. You saw

(39:15):
the pressure on the interior that was there against Riley
Leonard a Ton affected how you could run the ball
effectively as well, not that you didn't get the hard
runs from Love as the game wore on, and certainly
at the goal line. But I'll be curious to see
what Marcus Freeman can put together over the next ten days.
And we've seen both Ohio State and Texas at times

(39:39):
play far below the expectations, and they are lofty, There's
no question about it.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
Throughout the year.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
These are the two teams if you go back to
all the preview magazines, a lot of what we talked
about here, you and I and certainly across Fox Sports Radio,
whether it's Joel Klatt or Brady Quinn and LeVar Arrington.
Our guys can't wait to hear that one and in
the morning as they come out of this game. But
all of that to say, yeah, Texas and Ohio State,
great expectations and great opportunities, and certainly, uh the coaching

(40:12):
staffs and and money spent all of that. But for
one game you need, you need sixty minutes of good football.
And I can't put it past Marcus Freeman to not
be able to come up with a player too, uh,
you know, to keep hey, keep it close, but then
have the ability to make a player too late. Not
that I'm expecting Jeter to do it again. You chronicled

(40:33):
his six for twelve during the regular season. Right now
he's on an epic heater seven of eight in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
But I want him to kick for the Jets. Now
we had five kickers in the why not? Why not
one more? Let's go with g one more?

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Hey, the magic of Jeter coming back to New York,
New Jersey. Think about all the jersey sales immediately signing
him as.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
An more Jersey sold Jeter if he played for one
of the New York teams or Scataboo wherever he winds
up Scataboo, really, because you could get it, especially if
he warn number two, Like if he's sure worn number
two with the Giants at New York, and there's probably
a bunch of people that already have those sitting around
from back in the dance, try it out again. The

(41:18):
hope lives. Hey, where's it? Where's that? Where's that? Where's that?
Where's that trunk I had with all the jerseys I
don't wear no more? Where is that? Where can I go?
Get that? Is that? Upstairs from the attic is it?
Where is it? Out of the garage in the back.
Where where's it? You know what I'm talking about. Is
that one big trunk that had the stuff that I
don't wear no more on it. That's what it said
on it. Where is it? So I could go get
that Geeta jersey out?

Speaker 3 (41:39):
But Scataboo, I mean, think about how many people are
just going to buy one just for the giggles of Scataboo.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
No, sure, yeah, to your point, buy one for Jeter,
just forget exactly.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Look, opportunism, opportunity knocks. Uh opportunism Is that a word?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Opportunity? And I think I just made a made up
a new word. And that's fine. But their opportunistic. And
we we talked about it.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
Notre Dame thirty two takeaways over the course of the season,
Howard and Ewers. They get a little cue with the
football at time, they will try to force it, much
like we saw Drew Aller tonight. Right, you're going one way,
your body going the other way. Out my arms strong enough.
And he owned it in the Boscat just saying, look,
I should have dirted it and he should have right,

(42:20):
he should have thrown it at his feet trajectory, so
you don't get the intentional grounding call. But first read gone,
second read gone, tried to force it across the middle,
and instead you had a good break on the ball
by Gray and he gets the interception. But we've seen that,
and we've certainly seen it from Will Howard, and we've
seen it from viewers where they will try to force

(42:41):
the issue. And that's where Notre Dame's defense throughout the
course of the season looks. Seven ranked opponents, they don't
all have to be the household names and the world beaters.
And certainly, you know the meme is now going up
that you've seen Marcus Freeman beat more top five teams
in the last eight days than James Franklin has in
his career. Oh and by the way, the other guy

(43:04):
catching strays an awful lot of Brian Kelly memes finding
time an equal opportunity here. All of that to say,
Notre Dame, I don't know, eight eight days from now,
ten days from now, and we're making that would be
eight days from now, because we'll make that pick on
a Friday. Yeah, uh, I may be inclined to go
that way. I'll certainly take the points but might be

(43:26):
able to talk myself into picking the Irish outright, we
got to see how Tomorrow night plays, and fortunately for
America in the world, you and I will be on
air to break it all down.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Now elsewhere at college football, huge story today, Carson Beck
is in the transfer portal. Right, the Jordian quarterback who
got hurt, missed the playoff, initially declared for the NFL draft,
now instead is hitting the transfer portal. And I get
it from the business aspect from him, and I get
it from the playing aspect. He wasn't good enough to

(43:57):
go to the NFL, not off this. There's a lot
of quarterbacks headed to the NFL going, Wow, do you
really want to go there? Coming off this game? Right?
Do you really want to do that? Does Jalen Milroe
really want to go to the NFL? Coming off that
absolute awful game against Michigan? Carson Beck realized it. He
also realized that I'm not going to get drafted really high,
but if I go someplace else, someone's going to give

(44:18):
me six or seven million dollars in NIL money to
come play there. Next year. I'm going to make way
more money as a senior in college than I am
going to make if I declare for the NFL Draft,
so I can wait a year while pushing my stock
up a bit, because he does need to bring his
stock up. Quarterbacks are now it's going to be different.
Not every quarterback is going to declare for the draft
because they're going to say, hey, I can make more

(44:38):
money back here. I can make three million dollars my
senior year. I'm not gonna make that because I'm going
to go in the fourth round. You know, that's what
they're projecting me as, so I can do it. So
it's a great business decision for Carson Beck. It's also
the right decision on the field because I was I
was really surprised when he said he was going to
the NFL. I was like, in not a great year
for quarterbacks, I get the whole. Hey I can get

(44:59):
there because it's not a great year. But if you're
not great, you're just one of those guys, right well,
you have suddenly jump ahead everybody. You become one of
those guys. So yeah, whether he goes someplace else, whether
it's a great you know, when he goes to usc
whether he heads to somewhere he's somewhere who needs a
quarterback for one year in a high profile situation. Yeah,
I get Carson Beck leaving and I see all the

(45:21):
Georgia fans mad, and I'm like, do you think this
really happened? If he knew he was coming back as
a starting quarterback next year, Like just just like the
case of Milroe going to the NFL, there might be
a tiny bit of Hey, if I come back, am
I really guaranteed to be the starter? Or are they
gonna look to replace me? Because I really didn't have
that great a year, Like I like my the body
of my work is terrific, but boy, this year wasn't great.

(45:43):
We didn't win a lot, and I know the coach
has to win more than eight games. So if he
has a hot shot freshman coming in, am I really
gonna play? I jumped to the NFL. Same thing for
Carson Beck. I mean, I'm sure he would have got
If he was really that sought after, Georgia would have
kept him, would have given him more NIL money. It
would have happened. I don't think this happens without the
conversation being, hey, maybe it's mutual. Where if you're thinking

(46:04):
of hitting the transfer portal, Georgia saying it's okay if
you go, because we really need to do something a
little bit different at quarterback. Yeah, I think there's a
lot to it.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
We could even talk about Drew Aller coming out of
tonight right, all the intent come back to Penn State
after a couple of the decisions, and look, he wore
it like a champ in the postgame pressers, but NFL
teams were reportedly looking at it for big performances. Well
that went off to the wayside. Now coming back to
Penn State, did you see that he's the guy to

(46:33):
take you to that? I don't know, but certainly for
Carson Beck, there were halves of football where he was
everything he was supposed to be, right as a top
three pick, top arm, all of those things, and there
were halves of football that you're looking around going that
guy's the number one, right, that's still Beck out there.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
It's not someone else in his jersey. And we saw
that with Nil.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
With the ability to go into the portal and transfer
through look to get all the evaluation and response from
scouts that he no doubtedly got saying hey, opportunities are here,
but it's going to have to really break right for
some team to trade up and come get you earlier
in the draft. Otherwise it's a developmental thing. And we

(47:17):
watched guy. How many guys get buried through the years
on depth charts and never get that chance. I don't
know if they could have been good pros. They get
dismissed as if they weren't because they never cracked through.
But guys get languish on a ross for two or
three years. Guess what we want the next cycle of guys,
the next it thing, and they never see the light
of day.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
History is littered with him.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
So for Carson Beck, yeah, take advantage of the opportunity
to go to another school. And certainly Georgia, I'm sure
it already looked at him and said you can come
back and compete, which is code for you ain't gonna
be the first chair where we put the magnets up
on the board Billy Bob Thornton style.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
So get to looking great decision. And now if you
have six million dollars, you can have a pretty good
starting quarterback in college for for six million dollars, Monte
Bolognos will do updates for you every single night. I'll
even do it only about the Clippers.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Yes, I'll even do it for less than six million.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Five million, Okay, I didn't want to sell you short. No, yeah,
I appreciate that. I'm Scott Boris, You're Monti Bolognios. I'll
get you six million.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Had a giant notebook of all your stats, MONSI to
really get you that six million.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Jason, you're hired. You're hired, like that's easy. You'll be
my agent. I love it. Don't tell me accuracy status.
Eighty four percent of the time. She gets the right scores.
That's right. Eighty four percent, that's right.

Speaker 6 (48:33):
And if I got it wrong, it's because the Internet
was wrong.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
Clear your cash not here, Dame Fellas as you've been talking.
Is headed to the national championship for the first time
since twenty thirteen, defeating Penn State twenty seven to twenty
four thanks to a forty one yard field goal from
Mitch Jeter.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Who are they gonna play?

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Will?

Speaker 1 (48:52):
We'll know In about twenty four hours.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
Ohio State takes on Texas in the other college football playoffs.
Semi final game is on Friday, with kickoff around seven
thirty Eastern. The championship game will be on Monday, January twentieth.
In the NFL, the league announced that because of the
fires in LA, Monday's wild card game between the Vikings
and the Rams is going to be moved from Sofi
Stadium to State Farm Stadium and Glendale, Arizona.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
The Raiders for general manager Tom to LESCo.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
Today after just one season, former Jets head coach Robert
Sala interviewed with the forty nine ers for their defensive
coordinator position, yeah the position he held before he took the
Jets job. Chiefs defensive coordinator Steve Spagnolo is scheduled to
do his virtual head coach interviews with the Jets, Raiders,
and Jaguars on Friday. In the NBA, the Cavaliers won

(49:40):
twelve in a row. They topped the Raptors won thirty
two to one twenty six. The Warriors had a one
oh seven to one oh four win over the Pistons.
The Timberwolves cruise passed the Magic one oh four to
eighty nine, but Orlando will have Paolo ben Carro back
for Friday's game against the Milwaukee Bucks. The Mavericks defeated
the Trailblazers one seventeen to one eleven, and the Rockets
beat the Grizzly.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
He's one nineteen to one fifteen.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
The Sun's top the I wrote the Sun's top the Suns.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
That's not right. The Sun four percent right now?

Speaker 3 (50:09):
I tell you what the number nine you can get
in and in a single update that really could take
the average down like a pop blaise.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
It was the Hawks twenty three to one fifteen, and
the Heat took down the Jazz ninety seven to ninety two.
The Hornets and the Lakers game was postponed due to
the fires in LA. There were three ranked twenty top
twenty five teams in college hoops playing today and they
all want number fifteen Oregon one, number twenty per due

(50:36):
number sixteen Michigan State. And in the NHL, the final
game of the Knight Islanders just they just shut out
the Golden Knights four zero, while the Stars have won
six in a row after defeating the Flyers four to one.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Okay, back to you guys, thanks a bunch, Yes the
Jason Smith jo with Mike Carmen livethtyrech dot Com Studios.
Coming up next, we head to Vegas. What does Note
Tree Dames win do for their National championship? Odds to
the otred Ohio State go down even further because they're
more of a favorite. Plus, we get an early look
at all the big NFL games this weekend from NFL

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