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you know, I I don't like to say this because
you know it is you know, I don't like to,
you know, draw attention to certain things. But I did
say in the preseason the rams were going to the
Super Bowl. I did. I did say Rams Super Bowl.
I had there my NFC team, And if I'm not

(01:23):
gonna remind everybody of that now, I mean when when
can I Twenty four to three, early in the third quarter,
the Rams are beating the crap out of the Minnesota Vikings.
So preseason I did say that, Yeah you did. It
was a tenuous hold for a while, and you know,
we did everything we could to get you off the
pick and you may have jumped off a couple of times,

(01:43):
but I don't. But here we are with a Rams
defense that is flying around at a speed that I
haven't seen outside of watching any of the Justice League
or the Flash Show off the old wb uh because
they've attacked Sam Darnold every turn. Because that's really where
I thought you were going to go, and really just

(02:04):
try to lambass the history and year that Sam Donald.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Because because I was right about Sam Donald, it just
took sixteen weeks. He had a nice four month vacation
for who he was. In the last two weeks he
has turned back into Sam Donald. It's fine, it's fine.
It was I thought it would be week three, week four,
that I thought it would be week eight, and I
thought week ten, and I said, okay, but it just
took sixteen something, a nice four month vacation he had
for being Sam Donald.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Taxles of the Minnesota Viking taking some time off here
in this one. Not that Sam hasn't missed his shared throws,
don't get me wrong, h plus the fumble return for
a score and all. But you want to talk about
under duress over the course of the night. I mean, look,
if you can get a Rams defense that's flying around
like this because the offense hasn't had to do a ton.

(02:51):
They had a great opening drive, but beyond that, it's
actually been kinda quiet over the course of the night,
except for the ghosts right there. Well sometimes you know.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Sam, remember the Jets, Sam, I.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Really thought that was gonna devolve in you I Want
to Be Your Dog by Iggy Pop and the Stooges.
Uh No, that's laire.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
You didn't think that was gonna be ghosts for Sam Donald. Really,
there's gonna be ghost for Sam. I was hoping it
was more. I was hoping it was late that quickly.
Mary was on vacation a while.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
She'd been back and into the thick of things for
a few days but you know, maybe somewhere in her
European travels. Uh, you know, she she got into the
grunge scene. I don't know she's you.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Know, I started picking up this new type of music
out called grungy?

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Is that what it's called? Greg Rune?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Now I get him. It's not as if Sam Donald
is throwing the ball terribly. It's just more than you know,
Sam Donald is not making great decisions. He's fumbled on
his was a turn for a touchdown. He's always fumbled
a lot.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
That's always been a big thing from his whole career,
fourteen out of twenty for one eight.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
He also got picked through a bad pass to get
picked off. He's been sacked six times. And what did
we say going into this game? What did I tell
you I picked the Rams last week? I'm glad you
asked is because what did I say that might have
been the Lions might have been the blueprint to say,
this is how you slowed down the Vikings. You have
to you have to just keep Donald under relentless pressure.

(04:27):
You can't back off it and pick your times to
play because eventually he's gonna go. Where's Justin Jefferson?

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
There he is I'm gonna throw in the football, which
is kind of what has bailed him out a lot
this year. But when you are under constant duress, and
Donald has shown in the past, under constant duress is
really difficult. It's really difficult for anybody, but Donald when
he looks downfield. Is what's kept him from being an
elite level quarterback over the course's career, is that he
doesn't find the open guys all the time, right. I

(04:53):
mean you go back and go, oh, it's all the Jets,
all the Jets, but you see many plays and with
the Panthers as well, Boy, you had a guy wide open.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Now I missed that guy. That guy missed that guy.
But it's the constant pressure that is there. Not well,
we're gonna dial up a blitz here. It's third and
long and we're gonna, hey, we're gonna blitz him here,
they're gonna lay back. It's just we're sending We're gonna
send people if you can get at him on every play.
Guess what, Darnl is just a guy and that's kind
of what the lines turned him into. This is a
big copycat league and as you know and you've seen

(05:20):
so far, tonight. Hey, guess what, Look at what the
RAM has been doing keeping him under duress all night.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Yeah, to be fair, I think most quarterbacks, if you're
under duress on every snap, the results are gonna be suspect.
For Sam Donald held on the football all the time,
and he does you know, he double clutch moves to evade.
Yet the latest guy that's flying bad past him defender
either a blitzing corner or safety or the linebacker coming up.

(05:48):
Uh and then double clutching and then trying to make
a play down field. He's missed some wide open throws
in the last possession, they had a couple of sacks,
and then he stepped up and he's got nailor wide
open over the middle throws at five yards behind him.
Again after evading, another would be hit. So it's been

(06:09):
a miserable night. And what you saw from the opening
possession was also the Rams are gonna be aggressive on
the wide receivers and not let them get into their routes. Right,
we joke about the change of philosophies defensively, and you
don't have guys jamming wide receivers at the line of scrimmage.
Guess what that's what the Rams have decided they're going

(06:31):
after tonight, trying to make sure that they disrupt any
potential timing that you're looking at for Sam Donald and
for O'Connell to find any rhythm, any consistency downfield. And
what you've had is a team playing off schedule, off tempo,
and Sam Donald needing to improvise all a recipe for disaster.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Get ready for Daniel Jones. I'll just keep tweeting out
the picture of Daniel Jones at his Vikings headshot.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
We're gonna see Daniel Jones at some point, Gonna see
Daniel Jones. Gonna see Daniel Jones. Never can tell. Yeah,
it's just amazing, you know how quickly? I mean because
we watch with the Lions and the overall numbers were
terrible last week. I get it, the completion percentage and
everything else, but as a squad, they still moved the football,
and then they made a bunch of dopey fourth down
decisions didn't take points, and then later on when they

(07:20):
needed those points, and now you're chasing and putting yourself
in bad positions. So for O'Connell, he still has to
wear it a bit for last week. So but that's
in the past. Here's your playoff game, here's your opportunity.
You've got to displace Rams team, and from the opening gun,
they've been after it. What do you got, Frostburg. Sam

(07:40):
Donold survived the Jets, he can survive this. I don't know, man,
this it's twenty fourth survived the damn Jets.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
It's twenty four to three and the Rams are inside
the thirty yard line. I don't know, man, this is
this is a tough thing. We were actually just representing
the road.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Soon as Rob and Calvin were leaving it. You know
the old line, you know that which does not kill
you makes you stronger. I remember the Letterman addendum to
that when he had come back from a heart attack. Okay,
he said, it only serves to mess you up and
you're lucky to ever get it together again. That's kind
of where Sam Darnold is right now. Well, look, and
I know, I mean, I know it's a very short

(08:13):
window to try to get right. But it's been a week.
I got to explained millennials who David Letterman is. I
don't think they know yet. He's an owner of a
race card team.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
To tie it to sports, Oh, I saw him on
that Netflix special he was on.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Uh here's I know. Obviously, the focus is on this game.
We have an update on this game coming up in
a couple minutes, waiting to see if a Kyron Williams
fumble is going to be given to the Vikings or
if the Rams keep possession. Looked like William's knee was down,
but they're looking at it right now. I mean it
might have been a forward pass like Matthew Stafford. That
really that really upsets you. The Matthew Stafford throwing.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
The ball throw, But it really upsets you. That upsets you, man,
it really does.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Just stupid upset the letter in spirit of that rule.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Did you have the over under on throws by Matthew Stafford?
You didn't want that to be a throw, not at all.

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Just it just kind of is one of the funnier
things that we've seen. But hey, by the letter of
the law, it's a pass.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
The focus is on this game, obviously, and the Vikings
have a lot of work to do midway through the
third quarter, especially if the Rams keep this football again,
they're already in striking distance. But I don't know anybody
that has cost themselves this amount of money over a
two week spell in the NFL. Maybe ever, because two

(09:28):
weeks ago, going into the final week of the regular season,
hey most anticipated game in Lions history, Vikings are playing
for home field. Nobody thought it was. It was a
charmed season for Minnesota. Who thought they were gonna wind
up having this kind of record. JJ McCarthy gets hurt.
And everything was amazing, right Donald, thirty five touchdowns, four
thousand yards. The biggest thing was gonna be, well, are

(09:50):
the Vikings gonna keep them? Are they gonna franchise him?
Are they going to let him go?

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Are they going?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
And everything was coming up Donald right, whatever it was,
it was, they have to keep them. He'll get somebody
long term and get a lot of money. JJ McCarthy
will get traded. And the last two games have been
just so bad and so very publicly bad because the
look the ratings of the Vikings Lions game were through
the roof. This game through the roof on a Monday night,

(10:16):
and you are seeing Sam Donald just show. This is
why three teams have said he's not our guy. He's
showing you the last two games doesn't mean he's a
terrible quarterback. But to think that all of a sudden,
Sam Donald was gonna be great. No, In right situations,
quarterbacks can become the best versions of themselves. But even
quarterbacks like Geno Smith, who took a long time to

(10:37):
make it, they're still held back a little bit. They're
still they're still still and suddenly turn into stars. They
turn into serviceable quarterbacks that you can keep and play,
and hey, these guys can play pretty well and they
can be our starting quarterbacks for a couple of years, right,
but they don't become the superstars. You know, Sam Donald's
not going to become the superstar you thought he was
going to be when they drafted him, Like what you're
seeing these last couple of weeks. Oh so to get

(11:00):
Sam Donald back to being Sam boy, if you really
rush him and pressure him, that's gonna be a thing. Okay,
So now what's the best what's the best case scenario
for Sam Darnald coming off this game? If the Vikings lose,
they get blown out. Best case scenario is the Vikings
franchise him and they bring him and JJ McCarthy back
and Donald keeps the job for a little bit, and
then eventually it's gonna be antsy to get to JJ McCarthy,

(11:23):
because that's the thing about the Vikings now is they're
fighting this game and they're fighting their future is you know,
I feel like we're just waiting to see if we
can turn the page on JJ McCarthy. We're just waiting.
We're just waiting to see. So but if Donald's great,
we'll trade McCarthy. But okay, that'd be two years of
McCarthy not playing, And what are you gonna get back
for a guy you draft in the top half of
the first round, Like it's antsy to have this decision made.

(11:43):
And now you thought you had it, You thought you
had something with Donald. Hey he's great, he's coming. Now
everything is up in the air again. So now you're
fighting this game and Darnald, it's about what kind of
money is he gonna get next year? Are the Vikings
really gonna keep him after this? Is how much damage
has been done to him and he's done to his
own brand in the last two games.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, you get a little bit of the revisionist role
of having to go game by game, let's watch the
progression of the spatch because these are also loser leaves
down match and maybe he's just not up to that,
because this is the hell of a season. Yeah, you
can't dismiss what he did up there to a week
eighteam absolutely right, right, And that's the hard part in
the evaluation because not every team is going to play

(12:24):
with that level of urgency and dialed in nature. We
watch it every week in the NFL. You got several
teams that are Yeoman like your Lions, and you can
parse them out, your Ravens, whatever, and then you've got
others like, all right, it's week eight, let's he working
worried about getting a week nine? Okay, cool, it's not.

(12:45):
I have to leave everything on the field like you
saw in that Lions game, like you're seeing the night
with what Shula's dialed up here from the defensive side
of things against him. So overall, again, going to the
draft and where we're at free agency wise, Sam should
have some options, but certainly the guaranteed number. Yeah, that's

(13:08):
coming way, sir, that's coming way.

Speaker 4 (13:12):
Sam.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
Let me introduce you to the New York Jets. How
about that?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Let me go back telling you he has cost himself
so much in the left it's like watching money fly
out the window. No, look at one of those movies
where the bad guys they have the money and they
blow up the briefcase and the money starts flying it.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
No, there goes the money. Look at the money all
flying to the Grandnende dive because they want the money.
I get to be with it.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Field Go Buy the Rams has maybe a twenty seven
to three game midway through.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
The third quarter. We'll have more on this game coming
up next.

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(14:27):
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(15:32):
to our Fox Sports radio videos on YouTube. The Vikings
are in the end zone, but despite Sam Darnold's efforts,
he throws two straight passes well behind his receivers, but
somehow Jalen Naylor comes down with it, so does TJ. Hopkinson,
who takes it to the end zone. Two point conversion
is not good. So making a twenty seven to nine

(15:55):
game now late in the third quarter, Rams with the
lead over the Vikings.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Wake on the two point conversion was not good either.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Let's throw the ball. Let's throw the ball to Justin
Jefferson at the two. Oh boy, I think uh maybe,
uh maybe is Texas calling the players at the goal line?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Oh where Lake is already in nicely too. So a
lot of that this week, sir.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Uh So, we'll keep you posted on this game throughout
the rest of the night, obviously, But big stuff happening
in the NFL. The Dallas Cowboys today have parted ways
with Mike McCarthy.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Do they have their new head coach?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
According to reports, Jordan Schultz, NFL inside or friend of
the show, said Jerry Jones is reached out to Dion
Sanders and there could be a dialogue going on right
now that could bring him to the Cowboys with us
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(16:53):
and the Washington Post.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Jay, what's up man? Happy Monday?

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Hey, what's going on? Guys?

Speaker 3 (16:57):
What's all right? So let's start here.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
I mean, I have to feel that if Deon Sanders'
name is out there and Jerry Jones is talking to him,
that Deon Sanders is going to be the next head
coach of the Cowboys, because I usually don't see Jerry
Jones fail in a situation like this.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I think it's an interesting match. I know we talked
months ago about this possibility of perhaps, you know, Sidora
and Dion being a package deal, and at that point
in time, you don't know how things are going to
line up in terms of draft order, et cetera. And

(17:34):
you know, I think the extream might have included that
possibility probability, but I don't think that that is out
there for him right now. I don't think the Raiders
will go in that direction. Maybe pre Tom Brady, but
I don't know about now, and he knows Jerry and

(17:58):
he played there. I mean, if Jerry's going to do
something that moves the needle and keeps his team interesting
and vibrant and more than anything else, tell tickets and
keeps them in prime time windows and right like, this
is it. I mean, this would be it. This would
be far more because as far more shock and all

(18:24):
than if he were the guy to throw enough money
in front of Ben Johnson to get him, you know,
to get him to finally become a head coach somewhere,
you know, whatever it might take with some of these
other guys. I mean, I don't know who's out there
who you could look at and say, okay, I can
see Jerry doing that. Like I don't see a whole

(18:45):
lot of potential matches or at least things that would
make him feel good about the sort of marketability and
viability of this franchise. In terms of getting that buy
in from his fans. This would be mussy TV, you know,
at least for a while. And look, they have some

(19:09):
talent there. Dion Sanders clearly knows how to get people
to buy in. It's going to be unconventional. It's going
to be different. But these are two individuals who have
very big egos, who have flourished together before in different roles.
Dion knows what it's like to work for Jerry, the
good of it, the bad of it, and the ugly

(19:31):
of it. I mean, Dion has huge ties to that
area and always has since he played there. So far,
crazyer things have happened in this.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
League, chaosin Suing. Obviously, we've got all these other openings,
Rabel already off the board, the Bears have interviewed I
think eighteen people, the Jets right behind them in those standings,
and then Tom Brady involved in Raiderville. What's the most
intriguing remaining seeing as that you've got to go through
the management part of it.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
I mean, the Jets thing is just be fascinated to
see what this coupling is, you know, and who comes first,
the chicken in the egg or if it is something
of a package deal. It's just it's such an odd search.
I mean, it's just so bizarre, even by Jet standards.

(20:25):
To be back making headlines with Rex Ryane again. And
I don't want to get too deep down that rabbit
hole because we did last week. But just the fact
that this is dragging on as long as it has
and they fired their guys before anybody else, and it's
not a good enough job for them to try to
sell oh well, we're just you know, we got our

(20:48):
guet in that pocket, or just wait for him to
be like full the other helbow because you know he's
still coaching or whatever. Like nobody's buying any of that.
And it just seems to be a very secuitous meaning
entering expedition, you know. And I don't know where that,
you know, when that ship touches short, I don't know
who's jumping out of that boat. First.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
I'll tell you whoever it is.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
I'll tell you who it's going to be. It's going
to be Aaron Glenn. That's who it's going to be.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
And I think that would be a solid choice, that
will make a lot of sense. And they have competition
for him, you know, I think the Saints, you know,
have a lot of interest in him.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, but he's a far jet, he's a pro bowler. There,
he gets it, you know.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
I mean yeah, I mean, look, they could do a
whole lot worse than that, and and he's coming from
a place in Detroit where they put a coach and
a GM together, neither of whom had a whole lot
of hooplah with him right, neither of whom had you know,

(21:56):
huge media profiles. Or we're singing and anson and shucking
and driving for every job that was open. And it
turned out to be a very sensible pairing. And it's
turned a franchise around that looked like it would never
ever ever get it ready, you know, like never ever ever,
and they got it right. So I don't know that

(22:16):
the Jets are going to be as you know, competent,
but yes, if they end up, if it ends up
that they're just doing all this to kill time, because
you know, they got Aaron Glenn been great and Aaron
Glenn like the coaching for several more waits a year obviously,
But if he ends up in Las Vegas, or he
ends up in Jacksonville, or he ends up in New

(22:39):
Orleans and they don't and let's say that's their guy,
and they don't get their guy, then who the hell
is it? You know what I mean? And it's not
like they haven't been left at the altar before. I
will be fascinating to see. Fascinated to see what that
looks like if they have to go down, you know,
go behind door number two or door number three, like

(23:02):
good luck.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
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All right, no, I assume there will be zero talk
of anything on any of your radio shows later on
this week that doesn't involve the Ravens and the Bills
like I can already. I'm already thinking what a Titanic
All time great forty five forty four playoff game this

(23:26):
is gonna be.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
I can't stop thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
I mean, it should be. It should be a hum dinger,
It should be a hell of a of a matchup.
I don't know that it will be. You know, sometimes
these things don't live up to their billing. It wasn't
It was kind of a good you know, when they
played in timetime in Baltimore. I guess there's about three
months ago. A lot's changed for both these teams since then.

(23:54):
I will be really interested to see what Sean McDermott
does here to adjust that's a team that's got a
small front seven that lives in nickel and dime more
than anybody else. Like, they don't really play anything close
to a traditional base defense. And you could tell me
that they didn't have Milano and a couple of defensive
backs in that game, and they didn't. But if you

(24:16):
think that's going to stop, now, they're using six offensive linemen.
They use six offensive lineman for fifteen players in this
game against the Steelers. So now you've got a perennial
All Pro three hundred pound fullback, you've got six offensive linemen,
you've got a two hundred and sixty five pound blocking
tight end and Charlie Kohler, and you got a two
hundred and fifty pound running back when nobody wants to tackle,
and they're getting them all in the field at the

(24:38):
same time. I don't know, man, they ran with the
fullback on the field. They ran twenty times for over
two hundred yards and a touchdown on the Bills in
the first game. Like the Bill allout six yards per
carry this season as a team when the other team's
in twenty one or twenty two personnel, like what happens
when they're in twenty three, Like I'm just saying, I
don't like the Ravens are running out there with no

(24:59):
wide receiver, dude, and they're destroying people, and I just
don't think Buffalo is built for that. And like they
destroyed him in the last game. How many times do
you think Lamar Jackson threw in the direction of Say Flowers.
I don't think it's gonna play in this game. But
still Bay Flowers are Shad Bateman, Mark Andrews. Right, they
beat these guys by twenty five points a couple months ago.

(25:23):
He threw four times to those guys in total, not
like four compleces, four attempts, and they rolled up three
hundred and six scrimmage yards to Justice Hill and Derrick
Henry alone. Like, if you're telling me Milano's gonna be
the difference between that, I'm like, we're looking at two
different players. Like, he's got a road greater, He's not

(25:45):
gonna blow up Derrick Henry behind the line of scrimmage. Like, so,
I don't know, man, I think this is a This
is a tough matchup, I believe for this Bill's defense.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I like that you rolled up some of the stats
that were reminiscent of what the Ravens did in the
first half to the Steelers this weekend. How much enjoyment
was that on Baltimore radio and the celebration the crowning
of Jade and Daniels.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Yeah, you know it is. It's exciting times around here
for sure. Now Ravens fans and Commanders fans, don't, you know,
intermingle a whole lot. There's not a whole lot of
overlap there. But you know, if you can't appreciate what
Jade Daniels still and then you really don't like football.
It's pretty astounding that franchise has completely turned the corner.

(26:32):
And then yeah, I mean running over the Pittsburgh Steelers
for out rushing the Pittsburgh Steelers, but two hundred and
seventy yards, Like they out rushed the Pittsburgh Steelers in
a playoff game, but two hundred and seventy yards at halftime.
The Ravens had nineteen first downs to Steelers at two.
I mean, it was seven point five yards per play
for the Ravens three point five for the Steelers. Like

(26:55):
that's not supposed to happen professional football, especially not in
a rivalry game in the playoffs. But yeah, look Lamar
had to exercise some playoff demons the Ravens offense and
Todd Munkin had to exercise some playoff demons and they
did that. And I tend to think a lot of
what's been really successful for them, especially coming out of

(27:16):
the buy, with these Prystol runs being a new new emphasis.
They can just attack you so many different ways in
the run game alone, let alone the past game. But
I think there, I think they're on a bike. I
think we're going to see the reversity. It's the championship
game last year, you know, instead of Kansas City coming here,
I think it's going to be Baltimore going there. But

(27:37):
I think that's where this thing's headed.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
He's on Twitter at Jason lock and four at Jason
lock In four, Odyssey, one, O five seven, the Fan
in Baltimore, Washington Post. Jay as always, Buddy, appreciate, enjoy
the rest of the game. We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
You guys do the same things, Jason.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
All right, there goes Jay.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Now, the top three openings in the NFL coaching openings now,
now the Cowboys are up there because of what happened. Cowboys, Bears,
and Jets here's how it's gonna go. Cowboys are gonna
get Deon simply because this does this. Jerry Jones gets
his guy in situations like this, he doesn't lose. These
are situations Jerry Jones doesn't lose. He doesn't lose. Oh,

(28:13):
I'm connected with a coach. Then you know that's the guy,
right though. You know that's the guy. He will get
Deon Sanders. The Bears are next, and I'll tell you this.
They're gonna talk to Mike McCarthy if they don't hire
him by the end of the week. You know they're
waiting for Ben Johnson because it just seems like Johnson
has the most implied interest in the Bears job. You

(28:36):
don't really see any other Ben Johnson really wants to
go to this job here. I know Tom Brady likes
Ben Johnson too, but it's the Raiders, and I think
Ben Johnson knows I have to go somewhere where I'm
going to be able to duplicate this success I've had
with the Lions. I can't bring I'm on Ross Saint
Brown and Jamison Williams and Laporte and Jamier Gibbs. I

(28:58):
can't bring all these guys with me. But with the Bears,
I have Williams, and I have Swift and Dj Moore
and Romadoons and call the closest thing I have is
the Bear. So it seems like that's been the job
he's been connected with. But Mike McCarthy, clearly CEO head coach,
can hold a lot of appeal. If they don't hire
him by Friday, it's gonna be Ben Jonson whatever the

(29:18):
Lions are done, and then it's gonna be Aaron Glenda
the Jets when that's done. That I feel like is
a certainty that is absolutely going to happen. There's so
he's gonna go deonto the Cowboys, and then it's gonna
be McCarthy, if not Johnson, and then Aaron Glenda the Jets.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah. See, I don't know how much I like any
of the jobs that are outstanding, because uh no, I
told you all the jobs steak. They all stink. Is
what's open? This is what's open. But hey, the audience
changes every show, so they don't know that we had
that conversation a week ago. They all know.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
The job.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
These ownership groups, through the GMS and down, who's really
in charge? I don't know. They know, do I get
to do? Don't know? But what do you say? There's
thirty two jobs.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Right, and you want his job to all these opening
stink they're all terrible, But you want to be a
head coach, right.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
I think? I think if I'm just starting over, look
personnel wise. Obviously Chicago, you tried to include Cole Comet.
That was cute.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, like that Cole Comets has some bit you know
everything at four weeks he has a big game.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah sure. He was also very vocal, So I wonder
how often they froze his ass out of game plans.
That's one of the questions I would be asking Thomas
Brown in his interview when he interviews with the Bears.
But yeah, I mean, those are the three that stand
out Jacksonville because if you have any clout and a
good plan, shot con seems like he'll he'll do whatever
you want. Oh yeah, you can do it in relative

(30:38):
of charity? Can I fire Trent BALKI sure, I want
to fire him. On the zoom call with him watching,
but well now he didn't like it was a Brady
Bunch zoom call. He's staring at you. Here's a story
you're fired. He'll replace Alice in the middle of the
and and b Davis as Trent Paul.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
So things are getting a little interesting here in Arizona
as the Rams trying to hold on against the Minnesota Vikings.
The Vikings are driving, and there is a review of
a play to see if there's going to be a
targeting penalty on the Rams. Sam Donald scampered for a
first down.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
He slid. Rams defender went in.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Missed his head but still led and caught him a
tiny bit with his arm. We'll see how this goes,
because you know who's got the answers for us, A
guy who has never been called for targeting in his career.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
He's reteve De Sager. He's got what's trending.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
That's a definite unnecessary roughness. But none of me on him,
by the way. And the Rams are leading twenty seven
to nine, Minnesota with the ball. They've just started the
fourth quarter, Vikings with the ball at about midfield. Story
of this game was the pressure on Sam Darnold in
the first half, when he was sacked six times, had
one interception, one fumble returned for a touchdown. The Rams

(31:47):
got the lead up to twenty seven to three in
the third. It is now twenty seven to nine in
the fourth, as Minnesota has missed a two point attempt
Matthew Stafford with two touchdown passes. The winner of tonight's
game goes to Philadelphia for a Divisional Round playoff game
Sunday at three pm Eastern. Then it's Baltimore at Buffalo
on Sunday technically night six thirty Eastern time. And yes, recently,

(32:11):
Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson was voted All Pro ahead of
Buffalo's Josh Allen thirty votes to eighteen. The two Saturday
games this weekend in the Divisional Round, one seed Kansas
City hosts Houston, and then the NFC's one seed Detroit
will host a Washington team that's won six in a row.
That'll be Saturday night on Fox TV eight pm Eastern

(32:32):
Washington at Detroit. Coach Mike McCarthy will not be back
with Dallas. His contract he's expiring and they'll could not
agree on a new deal, so they'll find somebody else in.
McCarthy's playoff record in five years with the Cowboys was
one and three to the NBA. They've just held a
moment of silence at the Laker home game. They're about
to start up against the Spurs. The LA teams in
the league resuming their schedules after the fires that started

(32:55):
there in Los Angeles last week. Clipper's home game about
to begin against Miami for the heat bam at a
Baio out with a bruised back. Minnesota got forty one
points from Anthony Edwards in a win at Washington. Houston
just got forty two points from Jalen Green in a
win over Memphis. Toronto ended a five game losing streak
beating Golden State one four to one oh one. Detroit

(33:17):
got thirty six points from Cade Cunningham in a victory
at New York, won twenty four to one to nineteen.
The Pistons have won ten of twelve. In college basketball.
On a f S one, Rutgers sent UCLA to a
fourth straight loss seventy five sixty eight. Auburn is the
new number one in the polls. Tennessee fell to number
six among the three NHL games tonight, Philadelphia at home

(33:37):
beat Florida four to three, and boxer Tyson Fury says
he's retired. He's thirty six.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve though The Jason smithsho
with Mike Carmen Live from the Tirack dot Com Studios.
Coming up next.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
More on the final playoff game of Week one of
the playoffs. Here against the twenty seven to nine lead
for the Rams, fourteen and a half to go in
the fourth quarter, but straight ahead, why the biggest story
in the NFL Playoffs this weekend was a book That's
next Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my bis
friend Mike Arma. Let it breathe, Please, let it breathe.
It breathes enough. This song shouldn't breathe anymore. It's good
to be back. We're live from the tire Rack dot
Com Studios. So twenty seven to nine lead for the Rams,

(34:36):
still a long way to go, ten minutes to go
in the fourth quarter, but the Vikings desperately trying to
stay in. They need two touchdowns in a.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Field goal and Sam Darnold, I want to say, I
don't want to say heating up, but uh, the end
of the third quarter, wasn't as awful as the first
two and a half quarter, so it's good as that.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
And then they start on a decent drive and once
again Clutch triple clutch and eventually takes a huge sack
instead of getting rid of the ball. And you see
the shot of Naylor running free beyond his man, It's like,
do you not like him? Yeah? Yeah, lead it, throw away,
ahead of it. There you go.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
But the Rams do have the football at midfield with
about ten minutes to go in the fourth quarter, where
another score here would really put the nail on the
coffin for the Vikings. But again midfield. We'll keep you
posted on this game. I didn't have him at Bengo
card that the biggest story of the weekend in the
first weekend NFL playoffs was a book, but Aj Brown

(35:36):
has changed all that. The Eagles wide receiver who was
shown reading on the sideline yesterday during the Eagles win
that sent them on to the next round of the playoffs,
reading an inspirational book. Jim Murphy, who is the author
The book ranked like five hundred thousands in Amazon's list
of Biggest Soul properties.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
It is now number one.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, after Yees yesterday and AJ Brown making sure that
inner excellence train your mind for extraordinary performance in the
best possible life, experiencing that whirlwind turnaround since that was
shown on TV during the Eagles game.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, five hundred and fifty two thousand and seven nine
number one. That's pretty much jump. I mean, that's not
even that's not even a mid major book. That's like,
that's like, you know, hell, it's like Alcorn State wy
the NCAA championship. But this is one of those things
like you know zach Ertz a couple of weeks ago,
remember every catch seemed to make him another two hundred
fifty thousand dollars. Sure do you think this guy had

(36:33):
anything for a sequel where all of a sudden gets
triggered in It's like, yes, that manuscript that I was
ready to throw got into the trash thin too the shredder,
uh to make lining for my bird. It's now gonna
get picked up.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
But I'm gonna be a multi millionaire, thank you, Aj.
It's now I read that that it was the highest
rated book on Amazon now, more so than The Housemaid
by Freedom mcfad, which has been a pretty big book
the last year, right because now three hundred and fifty
people have read I'm sure there's bought it. I'm gonna

(37:08):
I'm gonna click that there.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I'm gonna click that there to make that book more
than that Freedom McFadden book I read The housemade.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
Always a fun book, big twist in it. But you
know it's just book's got to be better. Right here,
This is a J. Brown when he's not getting the
football once, stay in a positive mindset. I'm gonna go
help him out. Look, I read The Housemaid. The Housemaid
is phenomenal. She's written this woman. Freedom McFadden has written
about twenty five books in the last twelve years, but
The Housemaid is her best and they're making a big
movie out of it next year. It's Sidney Sweeney and

(37:35):
a mad to see Freed's in it. That trust me
that her books are like slump buster books. Like if
you've been reading books and boy, I haven't read anything
that I like, read one of hers, read one of hers.
It's a slumpast You can slump bust it a lot
of different things. It's not just that you can tell
us about Sweeney. I'm telling you this is sweet.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
If you're considering it, how about we take seipher read
over the time.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
It's kind of like, gone, girl, that that that that's
that's how good this book is.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Wearing a mets at ben affleck that'd be great. But look,
I love this story because A. J.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Brown was just reading right like he's he was reading
and he says, dang, y'all, I like to read. Why
get off my back? Uh yeah, he wasn't catching past.
Yeah I never saw I'm reading before he said I
like to read. Okay, So now here's a book he's
reading on the sideline, and and from someone who reads
all the time. Dude, I'm I'm down with it, man,
I'm down. I mean, I'm not a power of positive

(38:31):
thinking type book.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Guy. I'm never going to read one of those books.
But you know a lot of people read them. They're
very popular. I get it. I get what I'm writing.
You figure I got to get in on that gravy train.
I Marvel books don't kill hey.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Hey, hey, come on, man, Graphic novels are still novel.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Uh no again, I told you I always. People get
always surprised and they find out how much I read.
You read? Yes, I read, I read.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
We're talking about anytime we meet people and we're talking
about book boks or it's something going on TVD. You
read this, you see this, and they'll talk to Pam
and they'll say, hey, yeah, reading, and Pam goes, oh, well,
you want to talk about bus You had to talk
to Jason because no one reads more than him.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
They look at me and they go really, And I'm
like why, Because I do sports for a living. I'm
not smart. I only know words. Two syllables are less.
I don't read. I read all the bleep in time. Man,
how much you pay Pam to say that?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Dude, you come to my house. I read all the
It's what I've always been a reader. I've always read,
so I dig this. Just because you have books at
your house doesn't mean you read. I dig this, but
but I do read.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Hey, the recipes do not count. No read.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
I don't know. He doesn't do any cooking, Are you kidding?
When I cook, I don't read the recipe. That's just
a suggestion. I do what I want to go. Here's
a passage.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
We've all had times when everything came together in perfect harmony,
sacred moments, or we were totally immersed in the experience
and felt fully alive. Okay, you know what that translation is.
Remember when you used to get the football? Those were
the days? Well, because that's the other part in the
shoot to drop here is. Yeah, it's a great story
when you win by twelve and gets to slide down

(40:02):
and piss off people that at him anytime touchdown? Bet?
But how much of that is I'm not getting the ball?
I'm salty. AJ. The only way I'm.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Gonna I'm gonna be upset with this story because I
love it, is if we find out that he was
pulling out that book just to show. Here's how upset
I am with not getting the ball. I'm gonna read.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, we're all so hard on ourselves, amplifying all our
failures and regrets that we neglect to see what's still possible.
That's it, American, let's go. You know what that means?
Throw me the damn ball. That's all I said. That
was the invisible ink. It was a picture of Keishawn
Johnson's I cover of his book I'm so mad at
this game. I'm gonna read. Okay, just say that it's

(40:41):
where you put me on. I'm going to read. I'm
opening this book. Nobody talk to me. Now, but we
have some plays we're gonna put it. No, no, no, no,
I gotta read. He's got a string quartet behind him.
Exit out about a Prescott exit swollen dumb? Are we
any close to the Rams moving on in the playoffs?
The Vikings have a comeback in him. That's next right here,
Jason fox s meth right, didn't he doesn't he he's

(41:02):
part of that.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
He's part of Zach Sabbath, right, Well, he started because
it's called Yeah, it's Zach Sabbath.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Yeah he remember when he did the Wizard when we
used to play that photographed by Ringo. So yeah, good times,
good time. See how I'm trying to get away from
this Monday night football playoff game. They can't get very far.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
No, just just like Pachino and Godfather three, when you
think you're out, they pull you back.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
We'll be back in odd Sam run for his life
again right now, just under five minutes left to go.
The Rams didn't score in their last possession, but they
held the ball, killed some of the clock. The Vikings
have the football. They are near midfield with under five
minutes left to go, but it is a twenty seven
to nine lead that the Rams have it is a

(41:45):
three score game for the Vikings. That's how big that
two point missing. That two point conversion was earlier in
the third quarter. So the Rams right now, boy to
blow this, this would really be something. So it looks
like the Rams are moving on and Sam Donald's continuing
to watch dollar signs and dollars flow out the way
to lect those commercials in the you get like the

(42:07):
local commercials when.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Oh, are you paying too much to heat your home?
And they show the window open and the money is
flying out because the heat. When they were like, that's
kind of what's happening to Sam Donald tonight. With everything
going on. He keeps holding onto the football too long.
He's getting sacked. The Lions had the blueprint out last week.
It's not about blitzing from time to time. It's about
relentless pressure and Sam Donald struggles. That's what's happened tonight.

(42:30):
They just sacked Donald for the eighth time tonight. To
go along with a sack and a fumble, they ran
in for a touchdown. Yeah, Sam Donald's just watching money
fly out the window. It's like when your dad would say,
come on close the door. I'm not air conditioning the outside,
Close the front door, Close the front door.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
That's what's going on. Problem is he's also gonna have
see a bunch of specialists after this one because he's
been bludgeoned repeatedly. Like, oh, I could get they would
be tackler this side. Nope, I slid right into a
three hundred and fifty pound defensive tackle who's running unchecked.
The Tlamore just walked right through. Uh. And the eyes

(43:07):
told the tale. You know one of those old tex
Avery cartoons where the wolf would get the really big eyes,
really showing my age here with uh. You know the
cartoon references well, and also Wolfman is coming out. That's true.
They haven't.

Speaker 1 (43:19):
Have you seen a commercial where they've actually shown the wolf.
I don't think they've shown the wolf.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
I've heard there's a there's the latest trailer you have
dog Man Wolf No, no Wolf, dog Man. I'm in
for dog Man the end of the month. Let's go.
I think you mean dog Man Jason, No, no, dog
the guy the dog that's the cop. No, no, no, no.
It looks like a pretty good cartoon. What's that the
wolf Man is? It's with Ruth from uh from Ozark. Yeah,
she's gonna say blanker, blanker every five every she's got

(43:45):
a curt Yeah, like a half wolf half human. What
is he?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Well, well, I guess he's a wolf man. I guess
wolf man. You are part wolf, part man.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
I is the latest iteration of the long time tale.
I assumed.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
I'm not. I'm going on a limbit.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
You can't just to soon. I assume the top half
of him will be wolf in the bottom half of
But that's an assumption, do you believe?

Speaker 3 (44:06):
You just think if it was the other way around,
and the top half was man and the bottom man
was wolf, people would watch it.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Oh, just a dude with a tail and wolf legs.
That's not nearly as menacing.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
But like all great movies, we got to have a
good soundtrack. You believe the underrated Metallica classic of Wolf
and Man will be in there. Sure.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I think Warrelds of London will be on there as well.
I'm sure there's some scene where the wolf man like
is killing a lot of people playing.

Speaker 3 (44:29):
Pools kills him. His hair was perfect. If they if
they haven't done that, that won't create our own anime,
wolf Man. Anime for that wolf Man. They're doing a
good job of making me want to go see it.
Wolf Man dog Man. Yeah, I'm gonna go see dog
Man Man first, then Dogs the dog Man's trailer is better,

(44:49):
but his.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Dog Man animated animated dog cot see. I would say
I would want a real dog as a cop. But
I saw that that Robbie Williams movie opened with like
less than a million dollars, So I've I think that's you.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Know too much. But my daughter saw it. She went
to one of the one she went to one of those.
He come see a movie. It's it's Robbie Williams's life,
except yeah, he's a monkey. Yes. So what they decided is,
I've read a interview with the Filmmaker's very interesting that
they decided that it would be far more You'd be
more sympathetic with the trials and tribulations of a pop

(45:21):
star if he were if he was a monkey, because
otherwise you just said, this guy is an idiot, whereas
all the trappings and problems that you may experience being
a big star are you're not nearly as sympathetic to
those characters. Got a point and laugh at times. I said,
it's a monkey. I don't think if you made Freddie

(45:43):
Mercury with the head of a giraffe in Bohemian Rhapsody.
It would have been the same movie. I don't I
don't think. I don't think what's his name would have
won Best Actor. I don't think that would have remember mallach,
it would have been. It would have been a different
kind of movie. Still, and understand how he did. But
he did.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yeah, well, Jack, big long tongue giraffeld I would be
there would be.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
But I don't think it may literally live in the
Marvel universe. And you're upset this isn't real.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
I did.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
That's what upsets you. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
She said it was pretty good. But does but does wait?
Does does the does the monkey have superpowers?

Speaker 4 (46:17):
Like?

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Is it a is it a whole?

Speaker 4 (46:18):
Like?

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Hey, I can bore holes and things with an escape?
Mike say that again? Is it one of those escape monkeys? Yes?
That Hollywood? Did we get all them? Did they did
they get We never got a report that they got
all remember they they thought they knew where they all were.
We never got alusion to that.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
And not not only did this monkey escape, he's the
star of a movie, he's a pop star.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
The problem problem with it is never stopped, never stopping
in America. I don't know that Robbie Williams gets over. No,
I don't say if you made this, if this came
out in the UK first, you probably get some wrong. Yeah, yeah, Dally,
maybe get some run. It's a bit of a us
as much as they tried to put them on all
of those competition shows. Hey it's Robbie Williams.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
Guess I want to I want to know how that
got passed, the whole bunch of rooms to make it greenlit.

Speaker 3 (47:11):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Instead of an actual actor, it's going to be a monkey,
right so wait, wait the singer has a monkey. No, no, no,
the singer is the monkey. And it's this whole thing
we're doing, and it's based on Robby Williams life. Singer
with a Monkey you would have done on Michael Jackson
by We need it, We need a whole thing here
and it and the singer's going to be the monkey.
And boy do we need a lot of money to
make it happen. Sold you're a geniusly make out that

(47:35):
check to you.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
How does that get matters? I really think what ended
up happening is when they pitched it. They switched the scripts.
It was originally a reboot of The Monkeys. Oh okay,
and they never told them Yeah yeah, even brought in
Mickey Dolans to do the pitch you're saying songs. Yeah,
well this is great. Here's what you signed for.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Right, I'm sorry, last last train to Clark Hill is
going to be on there more.

Speaker 3 (47:56):
People bought in our excellence this weekend, then saw that one.

Speaker 4 (47:59):
This is true.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
You might be right about that. You may be right
inner excellence. So we'll keep you updated on the Rams
game again. Three minutes left to go. Now Vikings are
getting the football back and any other movies including Monkeys
yes yes, yes yes, or Wolves were wolf Man bof
Man Uh maybe wolf Man is is It's like one
of the when they try to do like uh they

(48:21):
want to remember they were gonna do Twilight from Edward's
point of view and Midnight Sun and they cancel it.
Maybe like Wolfman, this is top Gun, except from Wolfman's perspective.
It's about Hollywood and wolf Man and and and this
is this is their thing. Taylor Lautner might need the worst.
What about doff Man duff A movie that would be
would be quality. Oh no, it's it's I hear that music.

(48:42):
I hear that wants to party down. But so we'll
keep you up to again. Vikings getting the football back
with about two and a half left to go. The
Rams had a possession, went three and out there punting away.

Speaker 4 (48:53):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
But the big story today from the NFL was Mike
McCarthy let go or not? Brought back as head coach
of the Dallas Cowboys. And yeah, it was this.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Ridiculous dirty pool by Jerry Jones, who denied the Bears
requested interview a few days ago. Yeah, but I'll tell
you this much. I guarantee you he held on to
Mike McCarthy to see if what exactly is going on
now was going to happen. That is will another big
name shake free, and that's gonna be my guy.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Whatever it was. Now we're hearing that he and Dion
Sanders are talking about the job. So I guarantee with this,
I don't think this is Jerry Jones to screw Mike McCarthy.
I think this look it was a bit of dirty
pool to say, listen, if you let me go, let
me go. But I'm gonna hold on to Mike McCarthy
unless I can get a really big fish, right, whether
it's it was Dion or John Gruden. I thought was
gonna be somebody. Back to the friendly nature of the

(49:48):
relationship between Belichick and the Jones.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Maybe he wanted Ben Johnson, maybe he looked into Belichick's
buyout at North Carolina. But the fact that he held
on to Mike McCarthy, okay, and now we're letting him go. Oh,
he's got a big move. He's not gonna do this
unless he's getting his guy. And Jerry Jones is not
linked to anybody unless he gets them. These are not situations.
Jerry Jones loses on the field, giving money away, signing

(50:13):
guys to contracts. Jerry Jones loses, he loses a lot,
But this situation he doesn't lose. So the fact that
he's already been linked with Dion and they're talking Dion's
gonna be the head coach. He's good and he'll have
his prescotts or something like, well, you're gonna put that
much kind of money in front of you, What am
I gonna do? I'm gonna say at Colorado, I'm gonna
do like He's done everything he can. He's finishing at Colorado,
His sons are done. He coached the Heisman Trophy winner.

(50:35):
He coached a guy that's going in the top five
of the draft, his son. Now, is he gonna get
to coach his son again? No, But this is the
Dallas Cowboys and and this is this is the rock
star of rockstar jobs.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Link.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
You have a college football rock star coming to the
NFL for the rock star job in the entire league.
This makes sense for everybody. Jerry Jones gets what he wants.
He gets attention, he gets the news cycle, he gets
Dion Dion makes makes headlines. This is already gonna be
the story in the NFL all season next year. He's

(51:06):
getting exactly what he wanted. But I'll tell you why
he waited, because he wanted to see are we going
to get that big name? Shake loose? And now Deion
Sanders is that big name. And the last week, I'm
sure there has been a lot of back and forth
and would you and will you and ken you and
here's a deal and here's an offer, and let's talk.
This is gonna happen. I would be the most surprised
guy in the world if we're not seeing Deon Sanders

(51:28):
at a press conference later on this week, maybe on Friday,
holding up the Cowboys helmeut. They bring out his jersey,
he signs it. Everything is fantastic. I would be the
most stunned guy in the world if this does not happen.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
Well.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
The other thing, in terms of reading the tea, leaves
with Dion right trying to predict the future of where
whether he was staying Colorado or not. A number of
his assistant coaches left for other jobs, right, that had
big rises in their respective units. I'm thinking of Phil
Loadholt especially right, what was the biggest problem Year one?

(52:00):
Offensive line was a train wreck? Here two bring in
a couple of bodies. He gets them to respectability. Now,
were they one hundred percent buttoned up? No, but you
could argue should our at times? Would hold the ball
too long? One of the things that we do with
every quarterback at this point, because I think everybody's getting
a bit smarter. Don't put it all on the offensive line.
They make their share of mistakes and issues. Right, Caleb

(52:21):
Williams sixty eight sacks and then another fifty They said
he evaded again. How much is that percentage of the pie?
Is the old line versus where he decided traverse or
hold on to the ball. But same thing here, Loadholt.
Several other assistants had already left the program in the postseason,
so I was like, all right, we're gonna read the
tea leaves that if that's being allowed right, that you're

(52:43):
breaking up the band to a degree and losing all
of your top personnel, then yeah, you're available and open
to business. And certainly for Dallas Jerry Jones, this might
be the one guy Jerry Jones would actually listen to.
That's what makes it most intriguingly.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Once in a while, he's gotta go big in fire
Mike McCarthy to bring in Kellen Moore as the next
head coach. Right, he once in a while he goes big, Right,
he goes big, you know, Jimmy Johnson. Then he went
for guys he could control. Then he then he went
to Parcels. Then he went to guys he can control.
And now I can't go from Mike McCarthy to a
guy I gotta get. I gotta be bigger than Mike

(53:19):
McCarthy on that on that scale of coaches, and Dion
certainly is bigger. Yeah, the I think the prevailing consensus,
and we talked about it a little bit last week
with McCarthy when he was denied the opportunity to go
talk to the Bears, was that, well, you maybe you
get the situation whereby like he did with the contracts
for Lamb and Prescott at the eleventh hour, it's like, well,

(53:41):
there's nothing else better, here's a giant novelty check and
I butchered this one too instead. Whatever the truth is,
and this is where it gets fun from McCarthy and
his agent and from Jerry's side as to the devil
in the details of years versus years for his assistance
versus and cents like all of it. To say, when

(54:02):
this came down this morning, just kind of chuckle, going,
all right, we have a new entry to the chaos,
and one with a major profile. And it gave us
so many great memes, so many great AI videos that
we've been sharing all day long.