Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon open this 'Best of' edition of the show reacting to recent notable comments from Dak Prescott. Then they react to the candidates the Knicks are set to interview for their head coaching vacancy... Does Jason have a personal favorite? The guys are joined by NBA insider Mark Medina to weigh in and discuss all of the biggest storylines coming out of Game 4 of the NBA Finals!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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right now seventy four sixty eight, five and a half

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to go in the third or we'll keep you updated
on this throughout the night. Again, Oklahoma City is staying close.
Still don't like the flow for the thunder, but still
seventeen minutes left to go. You know, at least in
regulation I figured out what you're trying to do. What
am I trying to do?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
If Indiana now wins? You say we were beaten by
the best? Okay, you're stealing that Jim Varney Stone. Oh no,
I don't really care from he was a Carnie on
the Simpsons. See today, we were beaten by the best,
so you know we're second best?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Yeah? No, see, I don't and I don't like that.
I'd rather I'd rather my team. I don't want my
I'd rather my team feel like, no, we're farther away
than that, because I don't want to. I don't want
the heartbreakup. Boy, we got so close and we blew it,
because that's something I'll just think about forever, like I
want to think like, oh, okay, we lost to a
team that lost to a team like okay, even if
we won, we're really that close. I don't want to
obsess them. But I don't want to be Seahawks fans

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who wake up every day and go, why did we
give the ball to margin on the goal wide? Okay?
I thought about that. Now it can go on, it
can have coffee and go out my day. Like, I
don't want that. I'd rather lose to a team that
lost to a team that lost to a team.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Okay, yeah, I think some of that. I mean it's
probably helped by the fact that they fired the coach.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Yeah, well that it does help. It does help, but
I realize.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
That they were needing to make some move there.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
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the week.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Hey, now cut that all.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
I know.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
That's not funny. Okay, that's not the same one. That's
not a big now, I know. That's my favorite. That's
my that Of all the Jason Voorhees kills, my favorite

(04:27):
one is the guy in the field char in part two,
because he's at the very top of this really big
cabin with like a thousand steps and he just goes
down all the steps. Jason fits him with a machetti
and he just rowed him down forever. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
I mean it's gratuitous, but it's you know, it gives
you an extra I don't know, uh, twenty five seconds
of movie run time.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, oh of course, of course. Yeah. In fact, it
happened went on so long. If you watch that in
Friday the Thirteenth Part two, they just go to a
freeze frame, like it's like, okay, the guy, we can't
get him all the way to the bottom. It's just
it's just going way too long. It's just what we
got to stop. Yeah, he's like, okay, you know what,
get out of this. The guy's dead. He's still going
down the set. We have no more cut cut. Let's

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go to the next cabin, Go to the next cabin.
There we go, There we go. Although I will say
this in the Friday the thirteenth, you know when these
movies first started coming out, right Halloween, Friday the thirteenth,
all that's like, like, what was the lesson they wanted
to tell everybody. We're going to teach the youth of America,
you know, bad things like sex and drinking and drugs

(05:32):
and all this and partying and having a good time
and being teenagers. We don't like that because there's a
guy with a mask. It's going to kill you. But
you know, here's the part about Friday the thirteenth Part two,
right that people don't get and it's like, oh, so
you're teaching me alcohol could be good, right, because the
one guy, there's one guy who makes it that you
don't see him after the middle of the movie. Because

(05:53):
in Friday thirteenth, part two, there's some people who stay behind,
the ones who want to have sex, and then the
ones that want to go to the bar and drink
and hang out, and then they back late. Right, So
but there's a whole group. So you know, the group
gets ready, they're leaving the bar to go back, and
they say, hey, let's go back, let's go back, and
the one kid and the one guy goes eh, and
they're getting ready to leave, and he sidles up to
somebody else goes, hey, any other places open up open

(06:15):
later than this, And that's the last time you see
in the movie. So it's like this guy, Hey, I
went out, I closed the bar, and I made it
all right. I showed you I made it. Man. I
stayed out all night and I was at a bar,
probably underage, which is not a good thing. Do not
do that, I am not saying. I mean, what were
the laws of the time, though, and what it's a movie?
I mean that was that was the time. That was

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the time. It was a thing with the time, that
is what we did. It was nineteen eighty so, I
mean it was a long time ago.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
But in today's you know, run of police shows and
investigative reports, wouldn't you be putting this guy up as
a potential coke conspirator of the varhe's family.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Oh oh, that would have been a great That would
have been a great hook, right, I mean, hey, I
don't need to go back.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I don't want to go back because then I you know,
I need my uhl ausible deniability because I'm here drinking
with you.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
What was that? That was freebird on the on the
that just blade on the juke. But if tonight, would
you used to cut my head off and put it
on a spike and show it whoa as they walked in? Well,
after they die, you walk in. So that's well, that's well,
that's how part two open. He opens up the refrigerator
in the mother's head is right there, So okay, it's

(07:24):
kind of what he does, you know, But I think
it would have been boiler. It would have been too
much of a double twist because you know, the big
twist obviously is you know, it's his mom killing everybody
in the first one. Like, boy, and now you feel
really embarrassed those teenagers. You got killed by a sixty
year old woman who just just living in the woods. Really,
this country strong, what do you want? That's who killed you?

(07:45):
Really wearing that sweater the whole time, that's who killed you.
She weighs about ninety five pounds and she was overpowered.
You go, Okay, that's great, But that would have been
a double twist, say, oh, it's the mother. Oh, and like, oh,
by the way, this is Jason's younger brother that wound
up doing it. I think that's too much of it.
I think that's too twisty. You had one good twist
with the mom. Hey, that's pretty cool, and then Jason
takes Overpotism goes all the way back to the forget

(08:07):
about nepotism now in Hollywood with you know, Ethan Hawk's
kids and Tom Hanks's kids. Nepotism goes back to Friday
the thirteenth.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
See, I was watching a little Jack Quaid Novacaine today. Boy,
you want to talk about a fun, silly uh, I
can turn my brain off.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
For two hour movie.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Boy, that was fantastic, But nepotism Jack Quaid also Friday
the Thirteenth and Scream veteran of the Jar movies. But
also remember it doesn't necessarily mean you have to have
the same surname or be in the same bloodline.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Hello, no it doesn't. That's fun to grow on. Just
like we talked people about the Albatross yesterday. I was
actually explaining that to somebody today. It's like, oh, good
is that all about.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
I'm like, oh, we actually did a bit on the
show when I started talking about the poem, and all
of a sudden, I was talking to like seven people.
They were absolutely enraptured, and I'm like, you could learn
all this by tuning in to the Jason Smith Show
with Mike Harmet every night on Fox More Tradio.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
It became an inflmercial. It was great. See, that's the
thing is I like most. I like opinionizing and I
love entertaining, and once in a great while, okay, we'll educate.
I mean once in a great while, we'll do it.
And that was fair what Albatross was. Yeah, maybe maybe
you looked up Kestrel because you were like, hey, and
I'm feeling it now. I want to I want to
dive down the albatross rabbit hole. That's what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
And krill was more than just something nemo.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I've always known that's what whales eat like since I
was like seven years That's what we are. They just
it's filled by the thousands. Yeah, you know, I really
want you know, how about that on fourth of July
a whale krill eating competitive eating contest and let's say
in the last three seconds that whale is eating three thousand,
four hundred and seventy one krill. Oh wait a minute,

(09:48):
add another five thousand. That was a big gulp right there.
I mean that would be really forget about Joey Chuck
sixty five hot dogs come out.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
But trying to estimate that though amateur, I mean, what's
the margin of error? I mean is several thousand?

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Well, I think you have to be able to like
if you put like little tiny microchips and all the
little tiny baby crill in little play microchips, a little
tiny baby crill.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
No, you just just antagonize some krill defense league.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
It would look like Dorothy from Twister where they had
all the cans and it'll put them up all look
at all that you woul put abou a little tut
chips and the Criller chips and the Crilla chips. Since
it is Friday the thirteenth and ed listen obviously, you know, hey,
good luck if you're out in the woods tonight, hanging out,
you know, in any kind of situation. But because you
never know, keep your pants on whether well, I want

(10:37):
to say it could be a guy in a machete,
could be a guy's mom. You never know. Family members.
Never trust family member one thing in a horror movie.
Never trust family members.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
One hundred percent otherwise either way, I mean someone walking
up with a machete unless you're trying to uh get
the fire started, the bad thing.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
We got some big positivity Friday stuff out of the
NFL coming your way in ninety second. But first, let's
find out what's trending in the wide world of sports.
But guy who's been called the Jason four, he's of
Fox Sports Radios. Excuse me, his career really took off
when he started wearing a hockey mask to work. It's
Steve de Staga.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
Yeah, in radio.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
That happens all the time, your selfish bastard. Late in
the third corner in Indiana.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
The Pacers are leading eighty four to seventy six over
Oklahoma City. This is game four the NBA Finals. Pacers
trying to go up three games to one, nineteen points
for Pascal Siakam. The scoring leader for OKC is now
Shay Gilgos Alexander with twenty Jalen Williams with nineteen points.
Alex Caruso was seventeen now Oka se at the line

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twenty of twenty two, but on three point attempts two
for fourteen. It's an eight point lead for the home
team late in the third game fives at Oklahoma City
on Monday night. We have two WNBA games tonight. Atlanta
now seven and three beat Chicago eighty eight to seventy
thirty six points for Ryan Howard at Las Vegas. Three

(12:01):
time MVP Asia Wilson of Vegas out due to a concussion.
The Aces are leading one in ten Dallas thirty four
thirty one mid second quarter. Sam Burns leads by one
at the US Open after a second round. Sixty five.
College Baseball's World Series began today and Coastal Carolina won
the opener seven to four over Arizona. Coastal has won

(12:23):
twenty four straight games. Tonight, Oregon State has walked it
off against Louisville four to three. The New Orleans Saints
signed running back Cam Akers after his tryout at Mini
camp to Major League Baseball. Tampa Bay held on to
a seven to five win at the Mets, ending New
York six game winning streak. The Mets left twelve then
on base. Boston in ten innings edged the Yankees two

(12:43):
to one, although Aaron Judge hit his twenty sixth homer
that tied at top of the ninth, but the Yankees
as a team went four for thirty three at the plate.
At Atlanta, the Braves trailed Colorado four to one in
the sixth twelve four Braves the final, yes another l
Colorado's record thirteen and fifty six. Detroit wins again, beating

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Cincinnati eleven to five, Philadelphia eight nothing over Toronto. Winning
pitcher Ranger Suarez is five in one. Pittsburgh beat the
Cubs today in ten innings, two to one, and we've
had two rain delays. D C and Baltimore each playing
at home. They're back from a two hour rain delay
in the fourth in Washington. Marlins leading the National six

(13:26):
to two, top of the fifth. Washington has lost five
in a row and they're just restarting after a rain delay.
A second one of the Knights. Bottom of the fifth
in Baltimore, Orioles ahead of the Angels two to nothing.
The Rangers lead the White Sox in the ninth, three
to one. At Houston, Stros ten to three over Minnesota
in the top of the ninth. It's bottom of the

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ninth in kse Athletics leading the Royals six to one.
Late at Milwaukee, Brewers three to one over the Cardinals
in the top of the ninth. The Brewers traded pitcher
Aaron Savali to the White Sox today for spaceman Andrew Vaughn.
So Bali will start Sunday. Milwaukee was about to send
him to the bullpen. The Diamondbacks lead the Padres two
to one in the top of the fourth. Giants got

(14:09):
an early homer from Willia Dames and lead the Dodgers
in LA one nothing bottom of the second. The Dodgers
are first in the n West, but just one game
over the Giants and the Padres only two.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Back Back to you, Thank you, STEVEO. The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmen Live from the Fox Sports radio studios. Now, hey,
it is Friday the thirteenth. We are spending time talking
about camp. Okay, sis, every time I say that Tyro
is gonna play that that it's a doozy speaking of camp, right,
mini camps are finishing up over the NFL over the

(14:43):
course lead the days this week, and we're getting ready
for the NFL to go on vacation before we get
to come back in about four or five weeks. And
we got this gem from Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott earlier today. Now,
Befreid thing, oh my god, it's gonna make fun of
the cut. Now I'm actually okay, I'm to make fun
of the Cowboys. But then I'm really not right. I'm
gonna give you a little bit of a curve ball.

(15:04):
Dak Prescott was asked what he wants to accomplish here
he is now going into this season, how he feels
about the roster in twenty twenty five, Oh, you know
all the big Hey, let's take state of the Dallas
Cowboys and state of your career questions right now before
we don't see it for a month. And here's Dak
Prescott with what he wants to accomplish with the Cowboys.
I want to win a championship.

Speaker 7 (15:24):
The legacy, the things, whatever comes after I've finished plan,
we'll take care of itself.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Be damned.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
If it's just for my legacy or for it's for
this teams, for my personal being, for my sanity.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, the legacy will take care of itself. I have
to stay with my FETA. Okay, So I don't know
what any of that meant. First of all, I want
to say this. I still don't understand it, and I've
heard it like three or four times.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
It's not trigonometry.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
No, it's more than that. Like this is like calculus,
like AP calculus, like without even getting taught it and
having to execute it on an AP test. I assume
what he's trying to say, right, because you don't really
say something, be damned, And because basically you say, well,
I don't care about that, and then say that be
Danz and then talk about winning a championship because it's
supposed to be what you want to do, but I'm not. Again,

(16:09):
the whole thing, I think the message he wanted to
get out there is I don't care about my legacy.
I want to win a championship. Now, he certainly arrived
at it really weird, and I don't know that. I
don't know that the quite the phrasing was what he
wanted to be or was it, because again, I really
it's hard to kind of parse that out and go, Okay,
this is what he meant. But I'm pretty sure that
was his message that Hey, I don't care about my legacy.

(16:31):
I want to win a championship. Agree or disagree, because
I think I think that part of it I get.
I'm not going to make up something that he didn't say.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I'm struggling to comprehend if he understands what legacy means,
because the winning a title kind of changes.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
That people will to starve himself. Yeah, yeah, so, but
that there was.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
A long, convoluted way to get there. But the idea
that he wants to win a title is still admirable.
Whether he really believes that can happen there, I'm not
so sure, which is.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
How we got into the long talk about legacy. Yeah
that's out.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think if we win and
be damned, uh and then no, it's not good because
or Haliburton.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I keep going back to Haliburton. No, Halib Haliburton is
just ridiculous because he using for fuel the fact that
people didn't pick the pacers and then say, how dare
you do that? Like, dude, you wouldn't even be in
the NBA finals of people picked against you. If people
told you were great, you would just be sliding through
like you'd be dancing through life like Fierro and Wicked.
But instead, now I got a chip on my shoulder. Man,

(17:41):
I'm gonna go down, not going down to the oz
dust ballroom. No, I'm not gonna I'm gonna go I'm
gonna beat everybody like you use that as fuel, and
now you say not to say it.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Pick a look at you getting some Jonathan Bailey and
oz dust in there.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Good for you? So dancing through Now here's few bars
to it, but yeah, it's positivity Friday here right about.
And the Cowboys are you know the Cowboys NFL teams
are going on vacation. I just want to say this,
right this is my big message. All what are you
gonna say, Dak stinks, he's they don't need him as
much as you think they do. No, all of those

(18:12):
things are true, But I just want to say because
maybe it's we're at the end of the school year
and schools are graduating and people are going on, and
everybody's wishing everybody good luck, and I just want to
say this Dak and the Cowboys. You know, sometimes I
just want to say thank you for the content and
have a happy and healthy summer and a happy rest

(18:33):
of twenty twenty five. And I look forward to seeing
all you accomplish over the course of the rest of
this year. Like people write in your in your yearbook
where they say, Hey, I can't wait to see what
you do next year, can't wait to see what you
do in your life, Like hey, thank you, thank you
for what you've done, thank you for all the content
you provide us. The Cowboy you know, we get we
could have the most interesting story involving the Saints and

(18:54):
no one cares. But we have something that's not even
impressive at all. But you just say the word cowboys. Oh,
I can't believe it. Thank you for providing that content,
and I look forward to everything you have for us
in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
All the folks that wrote ki T never heard from
them again.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
So I didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
I wasn't gonna pretend I didn't want to have their
hopes up that you know, this guy would still be
howling around your kitchen door.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
No, I was going, it's always it's always a thing.
If they write keep in touch and then they don't
put their phone number, like I think that's the sign.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
I think I had a lot of their phone numbers.
I didn't want to use them.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Cowboys are projected to win seven and a half games
this year? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got in road.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Man, you want to talk about legacy? If Dak and
A stay healthy, b keep George Pickens in line, see,
get this team to the winning winner circle? You get
when we get what? What are you gonna be an x?
If the Cowboys are able to win Week four? Why
if they can keep Jerry Jones out? How far are
you gonna go? I I was only going three year,

(19:54):
I was going only three or four things. But I
mean I was thinking that it would just be absolute
bleeping goal if Jerry Jones is actually winning again?

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Think about that?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
What what those soundbites sound like in November and December
as opposed to what we normally get?

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Okay, gee, we pay Micah Parsons, h we stop Jerry
from making a bad trade, trading a third round Pia roster.
I could have done that to you. I did. I
we look for we look for a veteran running back
that's going to get cut sometime near the end of
training cam in the Williams. Yeah, Ja, we got like

(20:33):
that and my way is terrible.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Coming up next, we got the play of the day
and you have to admit one superstar is ready to
return and you miss this person tremendously. That's next, Jason
Mike Who Radio.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Greetings, Welcome inside hour two The Jason Smith Show with
my biss friend Mike Harmon. I'm an ass man, true Indiana.
Let's Oklahoma City right now, ninety five ninety one, still
six minutes to go in the fourth quarter. And look,
we spent a lot of time last hour talking about
the Pacers and what they're doing, and you know, look,

(21:23):
it's really been something to watch. But I gotta say
this for Oklahoma City. Right when we started the show,
I didn't like the way the game was going for
the Thunder because they just didn't seem like they were
they were all on the same page. I felt like
they were struggling and the Pacers were just waiting to
really kick it up a notch. And I said, the
way they're staying in this game, the only way the
Thunder in this game is if suddenly Sga just I'm

(21:46):
putting the team on my back and this is how
we're gonna win, and I'm gonna score forty points and
they're somehow in it. It's a four point game. Despite
the fact that Sga is having a horrendous game, a
horrendous game, he has been a ball stopper for the
most for most of the second half. All this isole

(22:07):
ball that he's playing. He's nine out of twenty one
from the floor. He's got twenty points on twenty one shots,
right like, that's that's not gonna do it, man, That
doesn't get it done. He's not getting anybody involved. He's
got zero assists on the game. He's been to the
free throw line twice. Like he is just he is.
He is ball stopping for the Thunder, and the Pacers

(22:28):
are basically saying, hey, okay, great, thanks, but and I thought, Okay,
I tell you this, how are the Thunder staying in
this because Alex Caruso is Benedict Mathern off the bench
with twenty and Jalen Williams has twenty five, including a
perfect eleven for eleven from the free throw line. This
game makes no sense now, I thought that it just
did fifteen minutes. Go buy Mike Carmon in the game

(22:50):
makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Well, get good balance with Williams and Caruso and home
girns at fourteen and twelve.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Still not moving the ball well.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Like we talked about earlier in the show, when you
look at the assists against the field goals made you know,
going back to your ball stopping eight assists on thirty
two makes there's got to be some stat to go
through that. I don't know who the Sarah Langs of
the NBA stats people are, but that just seems kind

(23:20):
of odd to me. They're just two of sixteen from
three point range are the Thunder Yet we're still talking
about a game in the balance, So what's curious. Also
for Indiana, tonight, Halliburton shot his first free throws of
the series, so he finally got that into the scoring column,
but giving you a little bit of balance as he

(23:42):
does on what he's up to fourteen points seven assists,
So giving you that, and you've got five guys in
double figures for the pacers. But yeah, Thunder have been
able to hang around. It ain't clean, it ain't pretty.
The referees making a nuisance of themselves with some of
their calls and the historyonics they're giving Frank Drevin a

(24:03):
little bit of a run with some of the theatrics
on falls at the baseline.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Now, now that was a great point you made, but
I want to ask you a very important question. Do
you think we get the Enrico Palazzo in the Liam
Neeson remake that's coming out soon?

Speaker 3 (24:17):
We got add something similar, don't we. Okay, And I've
seen that commercial a couple of times tonight. A nice
reminder that that's there for you because the other day
we did talk about all of those people on the
panel when we got to Dick Enburg and and Jim Palmer,
Joyce Brothers and.

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Kurt Bimer and we did them all. Yeah. Uh So
we'll keep you updated here again. Just over just under
five minutes left to go. It's a one point game.
Indiana leading Oklahoma City. SGA is playing terribly and it's
it's a one point game.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
They're beating the hell out of him too. I mean
that can't be understated. Like you know, he's he's looked
at the officials. If you had enough to added up
the stare time, stared down time. See I gave away
the joke tear downtime from SGA. It might be longer
than the guy rolling down the stairs in Friday the thirteenth.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Part two. Meanwhile, last night we proved that basically I
could be the GM of the Knicks and you can
pay me a lot less money than you're paying Leon
Rose and everybody else to run things right, because I
told you, hey, if you if I could have called
James Dole and said, hey, fifty give me pay me
fifty grand, and I'll say an hour, even though I'd

(25:28):
only need three minutes, I'll tell you who to go
talk to be the Knicks head coach. Right, Who did
I say? Mike Brown? Right? First guy I said when
when they fired Tibbs's Mike Brown's the guy, the offensive system,
the defensive system. He's coached big markets, He's coached big superstars,
He's basically done everything that Jason Kidd has done. Right,
He's done everything Jason Kidd has done. Mike Brown is

(25:48):
your guy, right, Mike Brown is the guy. And we
found out last night. Hey, potentially the Knicks would be
talking to Mike Brown. Okay, great. Then you said, hey,
remember on that first night, I said, Mike Brown, you said,
Taylor Jenkins, right, Hey, Taylor Jenkins got you gotta go
get him right, He's got to be the guy. Gotta
go talk to him, right, Okay, okay, uh shams. Trania
puts this out a little bit less than an hour ago.

(26:10):
Next week, the New York Knicks are planning to meet
with Taylor Jenkins and Mike Brown for their head coaching
job together. These are yes, Listen, we don't want to
talk to you guys separately. Maybe you guys can tag
team this and like coach.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
You got offense, you got defench go and now switch
now we switch rolls right like it's an improv game.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
We're gonna do yes end Okay, Yes, and I want
to trade Karl Anthony Towns okay, Taylor Jenkins, yes, and
I want to trade Oganno Noby Okay, back to you
Mike Brown. Yes, and who's Ogano Noby? Oh you stopped
it there? Uh more could come. But these are the
first formal interviews for the Knicks vacancy. So now we
know we could be running the Knicks. And they listen

(26:49):
to the show because after last night, Hey today, Hey,
look we're talking to Mike Brown and Taylor Jenkins. Like
we do a lot of good for society.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
We program a lot of shows and writers. The aggregators
love us. I mean, we might be the source of
all of those AI powered Yahoo Sports articles.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Oh yes, we're running the Knicks. Come on, running the
Knicks from three thousand miles away, working on it, not
nearly as much real because really you they fire TIBs. Okay,
who do you want? All in the No Mike Brown,
Mike Brown, Taylor Jenkins. Right. I like Sam Cassell, who
doesn't thank he's gonna get any interviews because he's always
up and coming, but he's never on anybody's list. So

(27:27):
I'm like, Okay, that's fine, but like these are these
are the guys, right, these are the guys you should
have been talking to first or waiting to reach out to.
Because this ridiculous. Let's go out and ask permission, and
the guys you should ask if you're being told, why
not ask Spolstra? Why not ask the Warriors for Steve Kerr?
What's what are they gonna tell you anything worse you've
been told so far when you reached out to the

(27:47):
Hawks and he told you know and the Bulls told
you no. Come on, man, it's embarrassing the Knicks. You
want to that sense? I mean like they went from
a destination to now you really don't know what the
hell you do it now everybody knows. Oh, I see,
you don't know what you're doing, Like Mike Brown and
Taylor Jenkins should clearly have been at the top of
the list, Like if you talk to Brown and Jenkins

(28:08):
and Mike Malone, even though hiring Malone is kind of
like getting Tibbs again, so that's kind of weird. And
the fact that he was just fired by a team
and that because he lost the team. Okay, yeah, not
my uh not my first choice to jump in. I
want to I want to get in there. Yeah, same guy,
just a little louder at the microphone. Yeah, you need
something a little bit. You need to make sure you change,

(28:30):
you change the energy and right and this is why
teams always go from a disciplinarian to a player's coach,
and then you get back to a disciplinarian because eventually
each of their messages wear thin, right, and it wore
thin with Tibbs, and Tibbs had to Like there's there's
no doubt in my mind, the Knicks had to let
TIBs go, right. The players didn't want to play for
him anymore. Clearly they had. They had gone as far

(28:51):
as they were going to under him. He was out
coaching the playoffs. No, the Knicks had to do this,
but what they should have done. And we said, look,
it's okay if you take some time, it is okay.
It's a big thing that just happened. We don't need
to hear. Just because people are talking about it, doesn't
mean we need to hear that you're going forward. Let's
let let's let things settle for a little bit, figure

(29:11):
out the direction you want to go, because I know
you had to let them go when you did because
you wanted to move on. Right. We know we're not
we're not bringing him back. We're gonna we're gonna rip
the band aid off now. And that's how we're gonna
go forward, and there's no timeline. We don't need to.
You really want your your coach in by the draft,
which you still have a few days for that, or
at the very least by free agency. Right, that's you

(29:33):
have time. But instead the Knicks panic with this stupid
ass like I really think, I honestly think the Knicks,
Leon Rose, they thought we're the Knicks, we're great, And
the first couple of teams we reach out to, we're
gonna poach a coach from somebody. We're gonna poach a coach, right, well,
I like that to you. Put that on a T shirt,
poach you coach, like we are gonna do it when

(29:53):
somebody's gonna say yes, because we're the bleep and Nicks
and we're back. And and suddenly, oh boy, this really
didn't turn out the way we thought. We thought coaches
would be dying to get to the Knicks. They would
stand up and say, no, free me up so I
can interview with this job. And nobody is. The coaches
aren't saying anything, the teams aren't letting him do it,
and this is the Knicks, right, Just sit back, don't panic,

(30:14):
right or talk to Mike Brown talk to Taylor Jenkins,
talk to Mike Malone, right, no reason, and bring guys
back for a second. These are the guys you should
be talking to, right, It's absolutely fine. And then Hey,
throw stuff out there back channel the hell out of it,
where it's hey, you know, we really hey, Jason Kidd,
we really would you know, if you wanted to come here,
we'd really like you, man, we really like you to come.

(30:36):
And then Jason Kidd tells the Mavericks, Hey, I want
to go coach the Knicks. And what happens They have
to give him permission because they have to fire him anyway,
because you don't come back and coach a team when
you say you want to leave and go coach someone else.
So the Knicks completely mismanages from the beginning because you
know Knicks, but like this was the way they should
have done it, and these are the guys should have
been talking to in the very first place.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Well, if you love someone, you let him go. If
they return their years, if they don't, they never were there.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
You go.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
It sounds better in Spanish, but we'll we'll leave that
for another time because you need some cool guitar underneath.
But it's the Look, the firing of TIV was the
same as the Nuggets when they fired Michael Malone. So
they're tied forever at the hip of yeah, we know
we're getting getting rid of you, and we don't need

(31:22):
to know what's behind door number two. We just gotta
go and and for the Nuggets, happily they had Adelman
there and he just picks up and he'll coach next year.
For the Knicks, they made that decision. The fact that
it became so public with all of these dalliance's mind,
if I dance with your date kind of things is

(31:42):
not good and it just makes you look foolish when
you had what was it eighteen different coaches or something
like that with experience some coaches of the year. I'm
not even gonna include Malone in that, but like, go
to Boudenholzer and all these other guys that you don't
bother to reach out and get in the pipeline.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
At least make those the first that you're talking to,
so when you are back channeling the rest of these guys,
it doesn't look as foolish.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
But the Knicks, you're a giant franchise, you're a power broker.
You think you got everybody just because they want tickets
to the Sphere, They're gonna do what you want. That's
the James Dolan way.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yeah, but I look at this point, I used to
be worried about the Sphere more than the NIXT. Now
it's kind of equal. Oh yeah, right, yeah, Oh man,
the tour is amazing, the tours. Should we go see
the Wizard of Oz there? It's oh man, I'll tell
I saw the Wizard of Oz. I talked to Rope,
I talked to AI robots, and I feel like, Okay,
they're either going to save the world or they're gonna

(32:44):
ultimately destroy us. Like oh that that was the best part. Look,
the best part of the Sphere, like the the look
sitting in that in that atmosphere and watching the movie
that I did, it was I can't say it's a
bucket list thing, like it is so incredibly impressive. I
can't put into words. But before you go in there,
you meet AI robots who are made up and they

(33:05):
have conversations with you, and they ask you questions. They
do impressions and and that, and it's they do impressions. Yeah,
like they did. They didn't prejudice rich little no, like
they would say oh, and they would look over at someone,
Oh where are you from and they would say, oh,
we're from uh Leads in London, And then the robot
would would would take like half a second and it
looks like a you know, shaped like what you think

(33:26):
a humanoid robot would look like. And the robot says, oh,
it's Do I sound like someone who speaks like they're
from Leads from the from the district section on on
you know, on Canterbury Avenue like at all because they
have all the info at their their displays, like, yes,
you sound just like that person. Have you ever gone
to the fish market on here? Yes, we go to
the fish market once a week. It's like, oh my
good And then they're cracking jokes like when and they

(33:48):
then the people would leave and they would say goodbye,
and so you say goodbye see you at the fish market.
I'm going, oh, wow, AI really is the best of
us or they're going to completely take over and and
and and we're gonna wind up having to live under
round and fighting the robots like a terminator. You know.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
There's a song called Shipyard from the Last ship by
Staying that talks about getting on a train when you
think you're going to Sunderland, but you found yourself in leads.
See what I did? I pull it all the way back.
You got to listen to the whole show, weeks of
the show at a time. You never know when something's
gonna find its way back in. I was always big
on leads because I had the who live at leads?

(34:24):
When I was a kid leads. I had no idea
what leads was? Who live at leads? Yes, leads, leads, leads?
Where's leads? Who's doesn't matter? It was live, doesn't matter,
it was lot.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
They were there. Do you have the album? Yes, I
have the album. Oh you have the album. That's great.
Uh So, just when I say Sga is having a
horrible game and I can't believe the Thunder is staying
in it, he has just reeled off nine points in
the last two and a half minutes and the Thunder
have taken a one oh four to one oh three
lead over the Pacers with two minutes to go in
the fourth quarter. He now has twenty nine on the

(34:57):
night to lead the Thunder. We are coming down to
it with an incredible finished. Look. It's been a great
final so far and look all I can hope for
in both the NBA and the NHL. We go seven,
right that, let's us go seven man, we go seven.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Find all these games are close late and they give
us some thrillers. The funny thing in SGA another one
where he thought he was getting the fall but he's like,
i'ven't been getting that call, so I'm just gonna play
through it. And then he hits the jump shot from
the side of the basket.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Pretty crazy exit out about a Fresca exit, swollen dome.
Your guy lou Dort just got away with a huge
foul uh Indiana looking to dish the ball to Tyre's
Halliburton and loud Dort just pushes Halliburton out of the way,
grabs the ball, gets up court, goes in for the
layup and gets fouled. I mean, cant Halliburton is just

(35:48):
standing there waiting for the ball that lud Dort just
shoves him out of the way. But that's the way
they've officiated this game. It makes no sense whatsoever.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
It's like you didn't see that where they looking at
the guys dressed like dumb and dumber on the sideline
or what.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Oh, my god. Oh that's that's the best.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
That's that might be the best emblematic of the NBA
Playoffs this year.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
What constitutes a foul?

Speaker 6 (36:13):
Man?

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Scott Fass for everybody? The extender? Hey, sometimes I extend
games by not calling fouls this I know. Just wait
till I extend this game by not sending guys the
free throw?

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Where does this stand on the metal stand of his calls?
Non calls to extend games of all time? Eight seven,
seven ninety.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Nine, one point lead for the Thunder, one thirty seven
left to go coming up next? Are we breaking down
a stranglehold three to one lead for the Pacers? Or
are we all even going back to Oklahoma City?

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Oh?

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Speaker 1 (37:55):
Greetings, Welcome in side hour three The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios, where we just watched the NBA Finals.
Get a whole heck of a lot more interesting the
thunder pull out Game four thanks to two things, SGA

(38:17):
turning into the MVP and Scott Foster extending the series
with various calls and non calls in the final two
minutes of this game that really I did my job
helped usher the Thunder along to win this one.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
He's doing the full Jack Nicholson. I did my job.
I'll do it again.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
I mean look, just to recap here, we got Mark Medina,
stop and buy in a minute. This is a this
is a nip tuck game in the final two minutes,
and you saw lou Dort get away with a clear
foul when he shoves Tyrese Halliburton out of the way
so we can step in and pick off a pass.
You got two non calls on SGA who clearly just

(38:59):
absolutely pushed off with his entire off arm and hit
two jumpers and then the two fouls away from the
ball as the Thunder, we're inbounding two free three throws
at different times in the final two minutes for the Thunder.
That's eight points, right, eight points and up the Thunder
to their seven point victory. One eleven, one oh four.
Joining us now in the hotline a man who was

(39:21):
called this morning to say, hey, can you officiate this game?
Mark Medina? They see he said no, no, no, call
Scott Foster instead. It is sports Keita Athlon CBSTV, NBA Insider,
longtime front of the show, Mark Medina, what's happening.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Man, how are you hey, Jason? Look, let's let's just
throw this out here. Shay goes Alexander showing signs of
Michael Jordan both first scoring brilliance then getting away with
a push off.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
I'll tell you getting away with more than that. I mean,
this is the two biggest performances in this game, Mark
shake Gildess Alexander the final five minutes and Scott Foster
the final five minutes.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
Oh, look, you want to extend the series. Maybe it
increases the ratings even more. Get some less talk on
the knicks and they're terrible coaching search, so they got
to pull out, all out, all the stops when the
sticks are high, all right.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
So look this game, it looked like it would look
he was going the Pacers way in the final five
and a half minutes. Look, this is where SGA shows everybody,
I'm the best player in the league right now, I'm
the MVP. Like, they were not gonna win this game
unless he steps up in the final five and a
half minutes. To be able to do that in a
night that is not your night is so what's incredibly
impressive because he was having a bad night where he's

(40:32):
twenty points on twenty one shots, whatever it was, and
all of a sudden, yeah, no, I got this fourteen
to the last sixteen, Like that's what MVPs do.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
Yeah, that's what MVP is doing. Look, he did get
away with some calls. But I think the bigger thing
about Shay Gildess Alexander is he's really talented and most
of his free throws are earned of, you know, knowing
how to be aggressive, knowing how to play the angles,
and when you look in the first half, he was
not doing that at all. He had literally zero free
throws in the first half, and a lot of that

(41:01):
has been Andrew Imphart's great defense on him. Also Shae
not being aggressive enough. But you know, to your point,
he almost pulled the Tyrese Haliburton that he's been pulling
during this playoff run for you know, when the goaling
gets tough, when they need to make a late game comeback,
the ball is in his hands. But it's a different
context because Shae is the MVP. He's a better player,

(41:21):
and he's known for scoring, and they really need it
because we've seen time and time again the Pacers are
not a joke. They're a legitimate team. They've they've earned
their appearance here, even if it's been at the expense
of your beloved Knicks, and they play as well as
as any team would hope for in terms of depth.
So the Thunder have to match that. But when they

(41:41):
don't have that consistently, you got to have your best
player just elevate your game, and that's what Shaye did.
It wasn't technically must win because it's two to one,
but I would say it was must win. As he
said after the game, a two to two series tie
is much different than mid down three one.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, So let's go into the officiating part of things here, Mark,
how many bullet points do you have for the final
two minute review? That feeling that the SGA thing is
part of what offensive players when you were one of
the quote greats, you're going to get away with that stuff.
The lou dort one, to me, still just doesn't pass
a whole lot of muster at mid court when he

(42:19):
took Haliburton into the fourth row.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
Yeah, especially loud Dort to that at the beginning of
the game, Ian BT or call Tyris Alibert was complaining
about that. I think mission accomplished because it was rattling tyres.
But yeah, the officials have to see everything. But I
think I think from a procedural standpoint, the Pacers will
certainly submit their issues. That's what teams always do after
every single game. But I think Rick Carlisle is one

(42:43):
of many coaches that preach to his team about playing
through the whistle and understanding that, especially in a playoff game,
things aren't going your way and so you have to
be very president. I think a bigger thing that Rick
Carlisle has leaned onto is this court from Steve Nash
in his playing career, where he said something along the
lines of when you win, you feel like you'll never

(43:06):
stop winning. When you lose, you feel like you can
never stop losing in the playoffs, And he was talking about,
you know, the other day, how he's talked to his
team about guarding against that feeling of both invincibility after
win and hopelessness after a loss, because things can very
much change in a playoff game, and same thing applies

(43:26):
to the officiated.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Oh no, that's my whole life is a Knicks fan,
except the first part. You never feel like you're going
to lose when you're winning. I don't feel that first part.
It's just why I never feel like we're going to
win again.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Hey, if you don't mind me, Jason, I have to
ask you a question. Being a reporter, can you confirm
or deny that the Knicks asked are friends and boss
of Fox Sports Radio for permission to interview for the
job this week.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Well, listen, Mark, when Tims got fired that first night,
I said, Mike Brown. Mike Brown's the guy. The offensive
system fits the defensive system he has. You're going to
get the play better defense. He's coached in big markets,
He's coached big stars. He fits with everything the Knicks
want to do. I could have called James Dolan and say, hey, dude,
fifty just send me a check for fifty grand. I'll

(44:10):
tell you who to talk to. Right, what do we
get the first two guys? If get free and we
get the whole week, the whole week, and we're gonna
call for permission of teams that are going to say no.
And what do we find out today, Hey, they're going
to officially talk to Mike Brown next week. Like I
could run the Knicks. I could have run this entire
coaching search for fifty grand and they would have zero embarrassment.

(44:31):
I think I need to be forget about head coach Mark,
I gotta stay higher than that. I got to start thinking, hey,
Leon Roase, you gotta step aside because I could run
this thing better than you.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
Yeah. So I guess that it was denied though the request.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Well, no, but Mike Brown, they'll get to talk to Oh.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, talking to him. I'm up with you.
I mean, it's one thing to do due diligence, but
the way they're going after coaches that are either still
in the playoffs or have had a lot of success
that just rereaked of someone death for on the dating apps,
So right on all the supermodels and open one of them. So, yeah,
it didn't make any sense. And I agree that when

(45:04):
you're looking at coaches that are actually available that would
actually fit this criteria of helping the next gets championship level,
Mike Brown's at the top of the list. People might
say Michael Malone because he won a championship two years ago.
But one, he is very similar with Tom Thibodeau his
coaching style, So if you have a problem with Tibbs,
you'd have a problem with Michael Malone. And two, I

(45:25):
want to be surprised, given the nature of his firing
with the Nuggets, that he would clash with Knicks management.
Mike Brown. He's a really good coach. He's very assertive,
but he is a very good team player. But I
think as far as his coaching shops go, you know,
he's been experienced, he's been championship tested, and I think
that knowing how Mike operates, when he's looked at coaching vacancies,

(45:46):
it hasn't just been anything. It's always been about, will this,
you know, opportunity give me a chance to compete for
a championship, And obviously it does. And he's known for
being a defensive oriented coach, so that's good. But I
think the very underrated thing is that he's really innovated
offensively during his time with the Sacramento Kings because of

(46:06):
the personnel that they have, and so I think because
of the time that he was with Golden State, he's
been able to refine his coaching style a little bit
more where it's not just defensive heavy, it's not all
these prolonged film studies and practices. He's been able to
find a good blend of knowing when to dial it
back and also be a little bit more creative on
offense that I think that he can hit both buttons there.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
That's good because I had Taylor Jenkins in the betting
pool here for the fact that I can't put anything
on Cat or Brunson's legs to make them play defense.
So let's just go full in on the offensive side
of the ball.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Yeah, and you know what, that's very well might what
might happen. But I think that even if it's incremental
improvement defensively, that can go a long way. I know
that Jason Smith is trying to figure out all the
different scenarios to get Nathanta Decompo. I don't know if
that's going to happen, But even if the Knicks just
improve on the more margins with supporting casts, all those

(47:04):
little things add up. And I think that when you're
looking at this playoff front, specifically with the Pacers, that's
the best example. You need to have role players that
can elevate their game on a consistent night. You need
your you know, kind of tear rotation guys that you
know what you're going to get on a nice to
night basis, and then maybe some surprise wild cards and
you know, that's a factor in this series. Obviously to

(47:26):
Jason's disappointment, that was a factor in the Pacers next series.
So we'll see what happens this summer.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
You know, Mark, one of the things, just going back
to the initial search, I would want to know did
they do it internally or did they hire a head
hunting firm, because the head hunting firm is always going
to go to people that have jobs because they would
seem to be better than those.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
On the unemployment line, right, So that that might have been.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
Where they went, or they were just trying to sow
the seeds of malcontentedness within these other organizations that maybe
someone had a wandering eye and it would cause a
rift and fall to and make them fall away.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
I guess. But you have to know the landscape. I mean,
there's a difference between doing due diligence than just throwing
shots in the dark, right, And when you throw shots
in the dark and you're asking for permission for permission
from teams that you know don't seem like they would
actually give permission, it can rub those teams the wrong

(48:21):
way and that can hurt in trade negotiations moving forward.
So I know that there is a process when it
comes to finding the right candids, but at least the
initial week, it did not look good for the next
for how they handled the beginning of the coaching search,
especially considering they fire Thibodeaux whether you liked his coaching

(48:42):
or not, after being in an Eastern Conference finals for
the first time in twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Again, mark for fifty grand, I could have called Dolan
a week ago from Mike Brown and none of this happens.
Fifty grand for three minutes worth of work. I'm not
overtrying it. I mean it would have been easy.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
Yeah, but they would have probably forced you to be
the head coach, and then that would have prevented you
from me being able to do your usual uh routine
of rooting for the next one far and also taking
shots at JJ Reddick on the radio. But you know, no,
I could coach to try it out, coach him.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
No.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
I could coach the Knicks via surrogate. I can. Yeah,
Like I could coach the Knicks early and then do
the show right out. I could do that. Hey, Gottla
coaches and does a show every day. I could coach
the Knicks from you know, three thousand miles away, I
can win. He pauses.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
I just fill the air for the rest of that
segment when he needs to go yell at a guy
for loafing on defense thout.

Speaker 5 (49:35):
Then you know, we could just cut this segment, send
it to James Doonon. Could help with recruiting pitches. People
listen the Fox Sports tray, especially the NBA players. So
jj Reddick United, Jason Smith, a lot of players that
Jason Smith. It would help the negotiations because players would
want to play for you.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Reference to by name yesterday, yeah, and say, hey, I
love that guy.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Oh I hate that guy. I mean, I get it.
Not everybody's cup of tea, but I'll get enough people
that want to come play for me. Mark. You know,
I think you're right another life, maybe that could happen
for me. Now, look, now you mentioned Yannis, and we
saw reports today that it seems like Yannis may stay
in Milwaukee for now. I look at this as saying,
you know, I don't know that big stars are generally

(50:20):
going to hit free agency or demand a trade before
free agency begins. Like I like, looking at the landscape,
I see someone like Yannis or whoever else, but Yannis
today obviously is like he wants to see what are
the teams doing and when they if they figure out,
figure things out, if they're a finished product. Yes, now

(50:41):
I can say I want to get dealt and that's
team I want to go to. Because the beginning of
free agency it sort of makes it more difficult. Okay,
we're going to make the move for you, but now
you have to fill in around you, and that might
not work, and you know, all of a sudden, you're
you're on a team that may not have the supporting
cast you need. I think players like Yannis might wait
now and then forget about the beginning of free agent.
Let's wait till the very end when I see what

(51:03):
teams do as teams position to be able to get
me to have a complete team. Like that's when you
see someone like Yanna say, Okay, now I want to
get traded.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (51:11):
I mean it's a tough it's a tough, delicate thing
here because in Gianni's case, he could be the domino
that changes the whole course of free agency, and so
waiting it out almost contradicts that I do understand and
agree generally with what you're outlining on Why would it
would make sense for both parties to wait, and I
think you know this is this is just me. The

(51:33):
Bucks will tell you and Yannis will tell you they
want to keep it going that you know, it's just
about improving on the margins. I'm just saying this with logic. Here.
They've lost in the first round three years in a row.
Damian Lillard is probably not playing next season. If he is,
he's not going to be the same player because that's
just what achilles injuries are, and so this idea of
improving on the margins isn't going to do anything. But

(51:54):
I think it's just it's just tough to say for
Giannis because of what he's done for the franchise, who
he is as a person, to just be like, you
know what, trade me, and I think for the Bucks,
same thing, because he's a franchise player, he drives a
lot of revenue, the feeling of okay starting over. But
I think logically they should and will make the decision.
You know what, This is better off for both parties,

(52:16):
both in the short and long term, and therefore this
conversation I think will change on Draft night and then
leading into free agency. I would understand your point waiting
for the dominoes to fall in July under normal circumstances.
But because of the context with the Bucks these last
three years, and because he could be the main person

(52:39):
that changes a landscape, I think that's going to be
the first order of business with free agency. But you
know what we'll see, Jason, you were a coveted Knicks
coach for a reason, so you might be onto something.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Let me tweet this out. Mark Medina says night one
a free agency Yannis for kat and a first round.
He's at Mark g Underscore Madina interview.

Speaker 5 (53:07):
What he got in the job?

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I got you a head coach and I got you Yannis.
Come on, what else can do I do? On Twitter
at Mark g Underscore Medina again Sports Keyna Athlon, CBSTV.
Mark is always buddy. Appreciate it man, we'll talk to
you next week. Appreciate you guys Today Mark bigs Mark
madeena at great stuff from him. Yeah. I mean, look,
people know me, Mike, I can call I could be
the pied piper. I can bring the right people to coach.

(53:32):
JJ Reddick would never be my assistant, but I could
bring people.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
No, but think about all the guys that we've now
ferreted out over time, not just counting you know, radio
people and their producers, uh, but coaches, front office people.
I mean, we've expanded, we are a global enterprise, and
now we just need uh, you know, the the recognition
of such, you know, with all those fancy awards up

(53:55):
on the wall. So let's make that happen, even if
you have to print them yourself or like ty sure
it's figured out the spacing and all that. We could
have him do it.

Speaker 1 (54:03):
Oh I like that. I like that idea. Let's let's tye.
That'll give Tyson a reason to pay attention to the show.
Hi waitch? So oh it's Friday thirteenth, Hey, Exit Ubuta, Fresca, Exit,
Swallow Dough, the Jason Special and Mike Garment. Yes, Happy

(54:25):
Friday the thirteenth for those who celebrate. But coming up next,
Rick Carlyle is speaking. I told you before the post
game he was gonna lose his mind? Did he? We'll
find out together. That's coming up next. Right here, we'll
hear from Rick Carlyle, Jason and Mike as we break
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