October 16, 2018 • 31 mins
Tonight on The Jason Smith show, Jason and the crew wish Mike a happy birthday with globs of sugar. The guys discuss how Cody Bellinger has disappeared this post season for the Dodgers. Jason thinks C.J. Beathard could be the 49ers answer for the remaining season after Jimmy Garoppolo's injury and it could lead to a quarterback controversy in San Francisco. Plus, FOX NFL Rules Analyst Mike Pereira joins the guys to make sense of all the outlandish calls from week six in the Nation Football League!
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to get to today, but first before we get to
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see Jay Bethor the podcast The Pride of the Midwest
the Iowa Hawkeyes c J Bethord. But no, no, that's
all right, It's all right. I want to go over
this real fast. I mean, the o been set talked
about my sucky team. Can I do a three hour
breakdown of the Bears? Uh? No? And that miserable cluster
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of a performance yesterday. I would think instead we should
celebrate the celebrity birthdays of today October eighteen. Genuine R
and B singer is forty eight today. All of this,
I'm sure Mary Hart would tell you, but she's the
Dodger game right now, so it's a little bit difficult
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to find her. Grace Van Dieen TV actress is twenty
two years old. It's kind of a it's kind of
a slow day for uh was I supposed to know
of YouTube or youtub Ferguson, the Duchess of York Royalty,
she's fifty nine. Penny Marshall, director is seventy five years old,
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and the man to my left, Mike Harmon, turns a
robust fifty five years today. Birthday. Appreciate you look great
for sixty. Well, you know I'm gonna I'm working at
George the underwear model status of one Jim Palmer, who
also celebrates today, He turned seventy three. He was a
lot taller, he was. He yeah, he I don't think
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he could do that anymore. He was also like, you know,
I don't know underwear models need to be tall. It's
hard to have shorter people. Is underwear models would be
pretty trunk legs. I mean it would look like, oh
and this is here's underwear for a muscular guy. But
like the tall thin models is where like that's kind
of where it goes tough. If you're if you're five
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nine and under, maybe there's a special thing five and under.
I mean they got there's modeling arrangement that could be
done there as well. You and I could be great
with that, buddy, now, no question about it. Now, happy
to be here, A happy, happy day. It's been a
lot of fun. I I made dinner and hung with
the kids, and and then I came in and I
got this giant fruit basket. A friend of mine sent
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it along. Well, we'll all partake. And and I just
have the question of radio. People don't really eat no
tie shirt. Does It's usually just and giant tight jobs
of sugar. Yeah, no, but tight shirt. He'll say, there's
too much natural sugar in that pineapple. Ba news. And
if you eat the pineapple you will die. It's like
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eating a cheeseburger that's not cooked. I mean right, well,
you're clothes. Pineapple is very acidic. It's not alkaline, so
I do stay away from pineapple. It's under about a
seven point oh, which is in my diaphragm. But yes,
to every ounce within me not to touch that. Okay,
seven foot seven point six, seven point oh everything above's
alkline below is acidic. We stay away from a cidic, Okay,
but even like six nine is not. Maybe that's on
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a cheap there you go. I'm so excited to rowse
my cheap thing. I like how you went to the
six nine. Alright, alright, alright, Well, I was waiting for
the ground who was getting coming up? Big left him
in single coverage like a bunch of dopes. It over
the top, and that sealed the games. But tonight, tonight
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the Green Bay Packers struggling with the San Francisco forty. Well,
should I should we start staying with my gronk knock
knock joke? I haven't a knock knock who's there as
bees cs? And d's a's bees cs, and d's who
as bees seasoned nuts? And there he had a favorite joke,
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nicely done. Can you know what I made that up?
That was really well done. That's my joke, I mean,
that was that's my joke. That seems like the kind
of thing you could probably get him to do a
video too. Here's a big thing. Cody Bellinger is now
one for twenty three in the postseason, and he has
not shown anything. He had. He had a hit on Saturday,
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that's it, and twice he's grounded out twice Tonight with
runners on base. He struck out again with a runner
on base. He's in that rut he had last year
in the playoffs when it was I don't know that
you can put him in the lineup. And the Dodgers
have a lot of options. Obviously they're sitting on the
bench playing, not playing. It's tough to keep putting him
in the lineup. I know, hey, he was great last
year and he still had a pretty good year this year.
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But man, when you're one for twenty three and you're
not hitting, this is where bold stroke. We need bold strokes.
Hamilton's and Burr argue once we need we need to
convince more folks we need bold strokes. Dodgers might need
some bold strokes after this game. Well, that's the hard
part is, you know, how do you shuffle up a deal,
find somewhe up in the lineup. Because Justin Turner had
that miserable Game one, he comes through with the monster
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hit to get them help him draw even in Game two,
you look across this lineup. He got a lot of
guys one for something in terms of this series, and
not a lot of hitting as you would expect in
a league championship series. But for the Dodgers all season long,
it's been the the Achilles Heel has been runners in
scoring position. I mean they're they're a three run of
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home run or bust kind of squad for most of
this season. And right now you're not even getting the
guy on to give you a shot to where the
pitchers a bit distracted by a base runner. It's been
an awful lot of guys pitching full wind up for
the Brewers during this series. Be sure to catch live
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Look. C J.
Bethard is pretty good. He's having a really good season
since he took over for Garoppolo a few games ago.
He's gonna be He's gonna be another game where he's
up around or over three hundred yards. This is who
c J. Bethard is. He had some good games last
year as well. Remember he kind of kept Garoppolo on
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the bench when they traded for him. You know, they
traded for Garoppolo at the deadline and Garoppolo sat for
a month to get acclimated, and Bethard playing well, there
was no reason to push no. So he was playing
pretty well. And when he finally lost the job is
because he got hurt. Garoppolo comes and at some point
they traded for the guy they got to play him.
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So Garoppolo comes in and plays and he plays well.
So now you're coming into this and suddenly here's c. J.
Beethord who's a two thirty and a couple of touchdowns
fifteen out of twenty tonight. So he's having a phenomenal
game throwing the football. His quarterback rating is up near under,
so this is yet another good game from him. Think
about this. This is what Beethor does. He pushes the
ball downfield. He is not afraid. He's not someone that's
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gonna take what the defense gives him. He's not gonna
dump the ball off. He's like Aaron Rodgers. My eyes
are always going downfield. I'm always looking down field, and
he's making plays. He has guys to throw too, just
to wait for Mark he's going to run by the
dbs because markis Coubin runs a three, so that's all
he's gotta do. You are going to see beth Third
have games like this regularly, and not that the Packers
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defense is great, but you're gonna see the forty Niners
play this way a lot because they're not a team
that's gonna run the football. They're gonna throw it. They
have the Cardinals coming up, they're gonna be able to
throw the ball in them. They have the Raiders coming up,
they have the Giants coming up that the Buccaneers coming up.
They just fired their defense coordinator Mike Smith. It was
all his fault. They have a bunch of team games
coming up against teams that can't really defend the pass well.
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So CJ. Bethard is going to have a lot of
big games like this. So now you get to week twelve,
week thirteen, right, and I realized I'm projecting a few weeks,
but I'm not saying anything that's not gonna doesn't have
the possibility of happening. But you get two week twelve,
weeks thirteen, and suddenly you know Bethard's been like around
three yards every week and Boys quarterback rating is pretty high.
Quarterback controversy going into next season. You don't know about
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Garoppolo's health and Bethard having a whole year, he will
have more of a resume than Jimmy Garoppolo has ever had.
He plays the rest of this season and suddenly you
can maybe trust him a little bit more. You go in,
I get the Garoppolo is gonna make twenty seven million
dollars next year, but you can't ignore Bethard and how
well he's played. Now, if the Niners want to try
to turn him into something else, and the team thinks
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Bethard could be their starter, he's young enough, he's a
third round pick, that would be a smart thing to do.
But if they're both on the roster and Bethard has
this kind of season, yeah, quarterback controversy. It becomes a curiosity,
right because you're not paying beth third much. You've got
heavily uh invested world of Jimmy Garoppolo the way that
contract was structured. So if beth does perform as well
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as one would anticipate with this schedule coming up, that
you're at least gonna have enough on tape to where
perhaps you're able to flip the flip him for big
picks and and keep fortifying this young nucleus. You've got
a bunch of young parts on defense that you're excited about.
In the front seven. Offensively, Brita's a solid running back.
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Some injury issues that you're worry that those start to
pile up on him, but when he's able, you've seen
some great things out of him. Kittle His has been
a great fine and has become a go to player
for them Goodwin more than a track star, which is
what all he was in Buffalo. Here go run some
more sprints. We're not actually gonna throw you the ball,
but just go through the year. Look at kids work
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and working with Garoppolo came into his own and has
continued that and made big plays tonight. And you still
have Pierre Garson, who's a good, sit down possession guy.
I mean, you've got a pretty solid nucleus. And if
you can take c. J. Beethorn spin him out for picks,
perhaps you've got an opportunity to keep building and give
Garoppolo the tools he needs. And that's what's different about
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Bethard compared to other guys, because you could look and say,
all right, well, Bethard's gonna be like an a J.
McCarron or a Tyrod Taylor or somebody like that. Now
he's different. Mccaren had a very small window of opportunity
to show you played well in a playoff game, but
he didn't really have a lot of starts. And a
guy like Tyrod Taylor has showed his limitations. You know
what kind of quarterback he is. Bethard's a guy hasn't
had a lot of football, was still drafted, I mean
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the third round pick. That's still a guy you think
maybe he can be our starter one day. He's young,
he's aggressive, and he throws the ball downfield. This is
a guy that a team can say, you know what,
we don't might not have to draft our quarter back
in the future. If we go get him and let
him battle it out in training camp with somebody else,
whatever it is, he could really be our long term solution.
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Guys like mccaren and Tyrod Taylor, they're just placeholders anytime
you get guys Josh mccal all those five or six
game guys. But Beth's a guy that's like, well, maybe
hang on, he might be able to be a more
than one season guy, so a team can take a
chance at him, because look, there's not gonna be that
many quarterbacks out there that you can say, all I'll
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make a trade for. Not gonna be that many guys
where you can say, all right, we're gonna get one
in the draft, because it's it's looking like it's a
thinner draft a quarterback than it was last year. So
now suddenly, Beth, this guy could turn out to be something.
And he just watch it's what he does. He throws
down field. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
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seven pm Pacific. Oh My, Dodgers in fielder Keika Hernandez
comes off the top rope, not only on his own players,
but on Dodgers fans. The Dodgers losing Milwaukee tonight for nothing.
Dodgers strike out fourteen times, leave a lot of runners
in scoring position, and Keik Hernandez says, well, this is
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everybody's fault. I mean not just stars, but everybody who
came to the game tools. You gotta want it, and
today it was it just wasn't our day. We had
no energy. The stadium had no energy, the fans had
no energy. So overall is a pretty bad game for
everybody that calls himself Dodgers. Yeah, there it is. Oh well,
you know me, geen. We had no energy, the fans
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had no energy, the stick at stadium had no energy.
You had no injury injury, and you had no energy,
and you have a bad tie. Everybody that calls himself Dodgers,
everybody that calls himself Dodgers had a bit. Fans had
no energy. Well, I will have three hits in the
first I will say this, where are they going to
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get the energy from? All right? Fans come to games
and they need to see something exciting to cheer about.
The Dodgers put some runners on base, but over eight
with runners in scoring position or at five hits for
the whole game, four teen strike ket, you didn't score
a run. I mean, what, what does he expect the
stadium to be? Like? Everybody's upstanding, No, you gotta give
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a little There's gotta be a little bit. It doesn't
have to be everywhere. It's not like okay, but there's
gotta be a little bit of stuff. And there was
nothing until the ninth inning, and then the ninth inning. Hey,
things kind of happen. But Cody Bellinger, who suddenly can hit,
and he has Monty Grandal who's having maybe the worst
League Championship Series of anybody in baseball history. Both, yeah,
he needs an exorcism. Both make two outs against Jeremy Jeffers,
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who is the third worst player, and Elsie has history
having a bad LCS. And that's the ninth inning. I mean, look,
I get what Keik Hernandez is trying to do. The
Dodgers have their backs to the wall now, and this
is this is this is Panic City a little bit
because they have now, over the course of three games,
their pitchers, top to bottom, have dominated the Dodgers. The
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only one who's been bad has been Jeremy Jefferson. He
got out of tonight after nearly giving the game back,
after he gets the loss in Game two and almost
lets the Dodgers all the way back in Game one.
He's the only guy. I don't know why Craig Coutslo
continues to put him in games. He's the only guy
the Dodgers are getting to. Now, let's put him in.
Let's put him in games. On this one, he made
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you sweat but he still got the ounce. I don't
he made for good television. He made for good trauma.
If the you know you're watching it, executives, you get
to see the sweat. He would never see inning in
two hits a walk, but he gets the two big
strikeouts to finish things off. The Dodgers were asleep, and
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that's the way it goes. Look, I get it. He's
it's it's a it's a panic situation for the Dodgers.
He's trying to grab everybody by the throat and say, hey,
we all stunk tonight. It's always it's always bad pool
when you blame the fans, because you know what, whether
the fans cheered or not, that doesn't affect That doesn't
affect the fact you didn't get hit with runners of
scoring position. Okay, that does another over ten nights, no effect.
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If if the fans were cheering, you would have got
a hit. I mean that would have been Oh you know,
if the fans are just cheering, I would have got
a hit. Joey would have had a bigger, bigger sign
down the third baseline. If Mary would have inspired Mary
Heart and Mario Lopez had stood up and screamed a
little bit more, we might have been able to score
a couple of runs. I mean that that just doesn't
hold water. Mario Lopez would always be jacked up. Yeah, okay,
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all right. I mean I'd like to see Mary Hart
standing up yelling and her and Larry King, you know,
he helps him up and everybody. But that's the that's
the thing is that is he trying. What he's trying
to do is get everybody REVVD up for tomorrow. You know,
because Game four is a really big deal. You don't
want to go down three one through the last three games.
Being in Milwaukee, you don't want to do that. So
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I'm going to try to get the fans up. But
there is that part of the fan base it's gonna say, oh, really,
you blame it's my fault. It's my it's my fault
you lost to Night. Really, I'm not getting paid. I
think I paid two fifty dollars to come to this game.
I didn't come to the game to not be entertained.
You got paid probably somewhere in the neighborhood of dollars
to play in this game. And okay, but it's my fault.
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I mean really, I mean that's where you want to go.
I get what he's trying to do, but wow, you
know what, no one has ever won by taking on
the fan. I want to go out to the clubhouse,
you want to go after the other guys just say
we need to pick it up, we need to get
it done. That's fine, but this is the case. You
can't get the fans and throw them into it. He
goes over to a walk and a strikeout, and it's
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just never a good idea. Right, this is a guy
that's adored by the fan base, and now he turned heel.
He went in w oh right here. And that's the
thing is that he has gotten big hits in the past. Right,
He's a guy during the season he kind of flies
under the radar. He's got twenty one home runs this year.
He's got a lot of pop. And then when he said,
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it's like, whoa what we kind of really like you k.
We like honesty to a point. Okay, but I'm this
point in the series, he's over six with two walks
and three strikeouts. Well, and that's the whole thing is
that nobody is hitting for the Dodgers. No, that's that's
the bigger question. And look like I said, that's why
I get him trying to snap the Dodgers out of it. Look,
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we all stink, all all of us stink. I'd like
him to say, YASMANI stunk tonight. I stunk tonight, Cody,
he is stunk. Then go back in the clubhouse, give
everybody a bat, and then tell them to go and
bash it and be done with it and try to
exercise some demons. But as soon as you're getting in
front of a microphone and you're starting to pull the
fans into it, and they're they've got nothing to cheer about. No,
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your job is to give them something to cheer about.
That enthusiasm only works in college football and where you're
really liquored up, and for for the NLCS is too expensive.
I know. My point is baseball is a different and
when it comes you just being able to cheer incessantly
over a three hour game, it's not the same thing,
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especially if your team is a not putting runners on,
or when they are they continually fail to either get
him over or get him on get him in, as
the Dodgers did over there. They didn't get him, they
didn't get him on, they didn't get him over and
they didn't get him in and a few attempts that
they had they failed miserably and lailed that pitches well
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out of the strike zone. I just don't I mean,
at this point, if I'm Dave Roberts, I don't care
about what the pitching matchup is. Cody BELLINGERI has Monty
Grandal can't play. I can't put him in the lineup. Look,
Cody Bellinger is one for twenty four in the playoffs
and his final at bad he had the ninth and
he runs a second and third. You know, he pops
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up and he slams his bat down really hard. Mentally,
he is lost. And I know that it's Cody Bellinger
and he's great and he's and he had a nominal
rookie season, but he looks now like he did in
the World Series last year where he got lost, and
I can't wait for him to figure his way out
of it. Grandal is just an energy suck. He can't field,
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he can't hit. I mean, it's it's tough. I mean,
these are the tough decisions. It's not like you don't
have guys you can put in. The Dodgers have guys
on the bench where It's like, boy, they have four
starting caliber players that are on the bench every game
because they're playing the matchups, and I get playing the matchups.
But with the way the Brewers go to the bulb
and they go righty, lefty, righty, lefty, you're gonna wind
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up having left. He's bad against lefties, right he bats
against right ali. You rather have Peak bad against a
ruddy and the left because he's got kind of reverse splits.
But it really doesn't matter at this point. It's like
you have to put guys out there that are getting hits,
and there's not a lot of guys can do it.
So when you look around and I go, the two
guys that are just absolutely killing you in the order
are Bellinger and Grandal, and they're batting back to back
and it's really hard. Bellinger tonight, every time he came
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up with a runner on base, every single time, and
he grounded out into a forced play or a double play,
or struck out or popped up. Ron Dahal can't field,
can't hit. He did have a double tonipe, but it
was one of those blue doubles that that saw the
the you know, that saw the ground and bounce into
the stands. Those are the guys. I said, you know what,
I need something else. You need some kind of energy.
And that is always what will push a team to
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the next level. Is that if you don't have energy,
Like King her Nandez says, it's a lineup overhaul, and
you're put you not like you're not putting guys in
there sitting on your bench. You're putting guys in that
would normally play. Maybe they don't play, depending on the
pitching matchup, and I'm thinking it will be Gonzalez maybe
in Game four, but it doesn't matter. You have to
put guys in that you think you're gonna hit that
can jump start the offense a little bit. That's where
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guys have to hit. There's a second part coming from
KEYK Aaron and Is and to do a great job
of showing up at pagging the stadium every night and
having a lot of passion for the team. Tonight, for
whatever reason, I guess, as contagious as energy can be
from the fans of the players, it was players from
the fans tonight. So he went back in the fans
saying they had no energy, so we had no energy. Yeah,
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it's it's the it's their fault. I mean he doubled
down on it's the fans. You know, I could have
jumped on your back and made you hit with runners
in scoring positions. I didn't know that. That's what I
need energy? Like, could I do that? Like if if
me rooting Sam Donald on so bravely from three thousand
miles away and tweeting on social media, could I get
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the energy of social media and the jets up so
much that he throws a touchdown? If you really want charge,
you might get his hair to move? Can I do that? No,
he's got the helmet on. It's okay. Don't need his
hair to move. I mean, can I doan off? He's
got heartman? He does? He does? Yes, he does have
heartman here, but it's hire. It's high legs by and
it's back a little bit. He almost looks like Todd
for breaking. Have you seen the trailers of the new
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Lego movie. No, it's pretty pretty fine. We'll take a look.
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We have no shortage of topics tonight. I feel like
as the day went along, like, well, here's another one
for Mike, and here's another one, and here's not It's
like you're you're backed up right now. Well, I just
hope I can remember all of these from guy man,
I've never it's all you'd want. There's never been a
shortage of these things to talk about. That's for sure.
It's good for business. Mike keeps those checks coming, right,
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keeps me a job. I keep employees that if all
the officials called everything great, it be no need for all. Right,
So let's start with Emmanuel Sanders yesterday that the big
unsportsmanlike conduct penalty catches what he believes is a touchdown
pass kind of points at the dB and he gets
flag front sportsmanlike conduct? Was that a right flag to throw?
Is that something you gotta keep in your pocket? No? No,
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it is the right flag to throw. Because of the
point I think if if you want to say something
and you walk towards a guy, you're you're gonna be
okay unless you get right into his face and almost
make time act with the helmet. But if you point
going at him and yelling at him, it's the same
as if you're headed into the end zone and you
turn and point at the defender behind you. That's taunting.
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It's the point that got him the trouble that really
took away a touchdown actually then became a fifteen yard
penalty after the reversal, and it was a costly point,
that's for sure. But that's the only thing I would
say the players. Okay, if if you're excited and you
want to say something to the other to your opponents,
say it, but don't make a gesture. Don't point at him.
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That's gonna get your flag every time. Now, Mike, one
of the other players, a frequent rules in fraction participant,
vantes perfect at it once again comes off suspension and
now he's doing flying elbow smashes to defender or to
Antonio Brown already wrapped up on his way to to
a ground. Uh, nothing called on the field. How hard
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does the league come down? And when are we going
to see protections of the players that aren't quarterbacks in
the same fashion. Well, this is a tough one for
the league because of the history. I mean, and and
and I've seen this happen before. You take away the history,
you know, when you look at that play and it's
a minimum, it's a minimum. Fine, but because it's perfect
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with what he's gone through and what he's done, this
is certainly not one of his most egregious hits. Um.
It is a defenseless player who is being wrapped up.
So you do have the you know, the element of
the foul with the you know, with the form to
the head. But I don't really see the League doing
much of anything. I mean, I think that they recognize
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the history, but they also look at how flagrant is
the act. And I think if it's anybody but perfect,
if we all look at that, we think it's not
that flagrant. We say, yeah, that looks like it could
be a foul. But I don't think the League is
gonna overreact just because it is perfect. So fine, probably yes,
but anything beyond that not. You know, the thing is
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and this is what kind of makes me feel like,
you know, my faith in humanity has restored a little bit, Mike,
is that when plays like this happened, or when when
players hit the quarterback and they get called or they
get fined the T J. Watt you know, the phantom
grab at the at the at the legs of Matt
Ryan a week ago. Is that I really thought there
would be some kind of all out revolt at this point.
We're getting the big way point of the season and
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defensive players are beside themselves. But still they've they've carried
themselves in a classy way and just continue to ask questions.
And I you know, it makes me feel like, Okay,
like I said, a little bit of my faith in
humanity is restored. Well, i'd be I'd be done asking
questions when it comes to the quarterback though. I mean,
I think that we've talked about this before. The needle
has gone so far to protect the quarterback that, you know,
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the push, the push after the release of the past
has become a foul. And when you're talking about that,
what hit on Ryan? I mean maybe you could see
there's elements to have found there, but is it enough
that we should be fine dollars for that? I really
don't really don't think there is you know, the we
talked about this at the studios today. You know, you've
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got John runnyon is basically the one that's um, you know,
doling out these fines. And he's probably still a little
piste off because we find him so many times in
the league that now he wants to take it out
and and find some of the other players. He was
a guy that we used to uh send up a
lot of plays with him picking players off of piles
as an offensive lineman. But uh, and you heard about
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the players Association now getting involved and wanting to know about,
you know, the fine on what for what really seemed
like it almost wasn't even a bowl on Ryan. So
I think the frustration is starting to build it, You're right.
I mean, I think they've done a pretty good job
of saying, hey, you know, we're trying to understand this,
and and you know, and I take a look at
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you know, everybody's talking about how great the game is
right now, how great it's fantastic. Well, the points are up,
the touchdowns are up, the plays are up. Those poor
defensive guys don't have a damn chance. Fox Sports Radio.
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Jason fitz You with Mike Armand from the Geico Studios.
Former vice president of Officiating in the NFL, Kurt Rules
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Mike Pereira. You could see the latest uh he and
Dean Blandino going through the calls of this week called
Last Call with Mike Pereira and Dean Blandino. Find that
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on his Twitter account at Mike Pereira. So, Mike, one
of the other players from last night's game. We we
saw the scoring really off the charts Patriots and Chiefs,
just like we thought we would, and then some. But
the play that's really making the rounds when we're talking
about the the young player, Mr speaks and well speaks.
He did about to the Tom Brady play like that
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as he was drifting towards the end zone a potential
sack and says, quote, I let him go because I
thought the ball was gone. Now I thought his body
momentum took it away from being a sack. But that's
just me uh in in plays like that. This is
the first one. This was the doomsday scenario that Smith's
been talking about for six weeks. So as an official,
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you know, you're you're watching that. I mean, how close
is that to where you'd be looking if you had
released hands are on him? You know, we get back
into the quarterback call here listen, you know, and I've
heard this excuse you before, and that's what this is
an excuse to me. I mean, he didn't make the play,
and there is nobody that said that you can't tackle
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a quarterback. My god, you can. You can just grab
him and hold him and get it in the grass call.
So the fact that he says that he let him
go because he didn't know what the pass was released,
I'm like you, I watched it a bunch of times.
That's a big body going to different directions and and
it's not easy to hold on to anybody, even if
it's not the most mobile quarterback like Brady is not.
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So I kind of look at those and say, Okay,
we're having a tough enough time trying to get what
is roughing the past or what is not. I think
we're getting better, especially when it comes to landing on
top of the quarterback with all of your body weight.
But to go where he went. Um, you know Mr
Speak has spoken. Um, I think he gave one of
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the all time great excuses for not making a football
play by it Andy Mike. Lastly, just because this this
came up today, the Patriots found the fan that threw
the beer on Tyree Kill after his touchdown. He's been
banned from the stadium. Is this something that officials are
gonna have to start watching out for treatment of players
like when something like this happens. Not that it's part
of their official job, but just hey, I saw this
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fan did this. We have to get security out there. Well,
I mean, I think you you could if it came
from I mean, you would never get involved at the time.
I mean because there's no jurisdiction. You as an official
only have jurisdiction on the plane field. You don't have
any any jurisdiction off the playing field. Now, they wanted
to use them because there was a a spectator and
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they could help identify who the spectator was. I guess
you could do that, but they got enough problems on
the field. I don't think that the last thing they
need to do. And I remember before the season, none
of if you remember this or not, that's the whole
national anthem thing. There was some discussion about having the
official flag the teams who's had had a player kneel
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on the sideline, and MY response was like, are you
kidding me? I mean, here's a group of officials, it's
already being ridiculed and out during the national anthem. They're
gonna be turning and look at the players to see
who's kneel and then then launch a flag there in
the middle of it. They have enough to do on
the field, and I think that's the last thing they
should really have to worry about, is what spectator throws
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the beer bottle out of the stands or or that
type of things. So I don't, I don't did that happen?
Palm on Twitter at Mike Pereira. That's at Mike Pereira
for a VP of officiating in the NFL, current rules
analyst at Fox. Mike is always buddy, appreciate and enjoy
the rest of the game tonight. We'll talk to you soon.
You got it, Thanks, Mike. Be sure to catch live
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see Jay Bethor the podcast The Pride of the Midwest
the Iowa Hawkeyes c J Bethord. But no, no, that's
all right, It's all right. I want to go over
this real fast. I mean, the o been set talked
about my sucky team. Can I do a three hour
breakdown of the Bears? Uh? No? And that miserable cluster
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of a performance yesterday. I would think instead we should
celebrate the celebrity birthdays of today October eighteen. Genuine R
and B singer is forty eight today. All of this,
I'm sure Mary Hart would tell you, but she's the
Dodger game right now, so it's a little bit difficult
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to find her. Grace Van Dieen TV actress is twenty
two years old. It's kind of a it's kind of
a slow day for uh was I supposed to know
of YouTube or youtub Ferguson, the Duchess of York Royalty,
she's fifty nine. Penny Marshall, director is seventy five years old,
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and the man to my left, Mike Harmon, turns a
robust fifty five years today. Birthday. Appreciate you look great
for sixty. Well, you know I'm gonna I'm working at
George the underwear model status of one Jim Palmer, who
also celebrates today, He turned seventy three. He was a
lot taller, he was. He yeah, he I don't think
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he could do that anymore. He was also like, you know,
I don't know underwear models need to be tall. It's
hard to have shorter people. Is underwear models would be
pretty trunk legs. I mean it would look like, oh
and this is here's underwear for a muscular guy. But
like the tall thin models is where like that's kind
of where it goes tough. If you're if you're five
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nine and under, maybe there's a special thing five and under.
I mean they got there's modeling arrangement that could be
done there as well. You and I could be great
with that, buddy, now, no question about it. Now, happy
to be here, A happy, happy day. It's been a
lot of fun. I I made dinner and hung with
the kids, and and then I came in and I
got this giant fruit basket. A friend of mine sent
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it along. Well, we'll all partake. And and I just
have the question of radio. People don't really eat no
tie shirt. Does It's usually just and giant tight jobs
of sugar. Yeah, no, but tight shirt. He'll say, there's
too much natural sugar in that pineapple. Ba news. And
if you eat the pineapple you will die. It's like
(03:20):
eating a cheeseburger that's not cooked. I mean right, well,
you're clothes. Pineapple is very acidic. It's not alkaline, so
I do stay away from pineapple. It's under about a
seven point oh, which is in my diaphragm. But yes,
to every ounce within me not to touch that. Okay,
seven foot seven point six, seven point oh everything above's
alkline below is acidic. We stay away from a cidic, Okay,
but even like six nine is not. Maybe that's on
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a cheap there you go. I'm so excited to rowse
my cheap thing. I like how you went to the
six nine. Alright, alright, alright, Well, I was waiting for
the ground who was getting coming up? Big left him
in single coverage like a bunch of dopes. It over
the top, and that sealed the games. But tonight, tonight
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the Green Bay Packers struggling with the San Francisco forty. Well,
should I should we start staying with my gronk knock
knock joke? I haven't a knock knock who's there as
bees cs? And d's a's bees cs, and d's who
as bees seasoned nuts? And there he had a favorite joke,
(04:30):
nicely done. Can you know what I made that up?
That was really well done. That's my joke, I mean,
that was that's my joke. That seems like the kind
of thing you could probably get him to do a
video too. Here's a big thing. Cody Bellinger is now
one for twenty three in the postseason, and he has
not shown anything. He had. He had a hit on Saturday,
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that's it, and twice he's grounded out twice Tonight with
runners on base. He struck out again with a runner
on base. He's in that rut he had last year
in the playoffs when it was I don't know that
you can put him in the lineup. And the Dodgers
have a lot of options. Obviously they're sitting on the
bench playing, not playing. It's tough to keep putting him
in the lineup. I know, hey, he was great last
year and he still had a pretty good year this year.
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But man, when you're one for twenty three and you're
not hitting, this is where bold stroke. We need bold strokes.
Hamilton's and Burr argue once we need we need to
convince more folks we need bold strokes. Dodgers might need
some bold strokes after this game. Well, that's the hard
part is, you know, how do you shuffle up a deal,
find somewhe up in the lineup. Because Justin Turner had
that miserable Game one, he comes through with the monster
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hit to get them help him draw even in Game two,
you look across this lineup. He got a lot of
guys one for something in terms of this series, and
not a lot of hitting as you would expect in
a league championship series. But for the Dodgers all season long,
it's been the the Achilles Heel has been runners in
scoring position. I mean they're they're a three run of
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home run or bust kind of squad for most of
this season. And right now you're not even getting the
guy on to give you a shot to where the
pitchers a bit distracted by a base runner. It's been
an awful lot of guys pitching full wind up for
the Brewers during this series. Be sure to catch live
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Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Look. C J.
Bethard is pretty good. He's having a really good season
since he took over for Garoppolo a few games ago.
He's gonna be He's gonna be another game where he's
up around or over three hundred yards. This is who
c J. Bethard is. He had some good games last
year as well. Remember he kind of kept Garoppolo on
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the bench when they traded for him. You know, they
traded for Garoppolo at the deadline and Garoppolo sat for
a month to get acclimated, and Bethard playing well, there
was no reason to push no. So he was playing
pretty well. And when he finally lost the job is
because he got hurt. Garoppolo comes and at some point
they traded for the guy they got to play him.
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So Garoppolo comes in and plays and he plays well.
So now you're coming into this and suddenly here's c. J.
Beethord who's a two thirty and a couple of touchdowns
fifteen out of twenty tonight. So he's having a phenomenal
game throwing the football. His quarterback rating is up near under,
so this is yet another good game from him. Think
about this. This is what Beethor does. He pushes the
ball downfield. He is not afraid. He's not someone that's
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gonna take what the defense gives him. He's not gonna
dump the ball off. He's like Aaron Rodgers. My eyes
are always going downfield. I'm always looking down field, and
he's making plays. He has guys to throw too, just
to wait for Mark he's going to run by the
dbs because markis Coubin runs a three, so that's all
he's gotta do. You are going to see beth Third
have games like this regularly, and not that the Packers
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defense is great, but you're gonna see the forty Niners
play this way a lot because they're not a team
that's gonna run the football. They're gonna throw it. They
have the Cardinals coming up, they're gonna be able to
throw the ball in them. They have the Raiders coming up,
they have the Giants coming up that the Buccaneers coming up.
They just fired their defense coordinator Mike Smith. It was
all his fault. They have a bunch of team games
coming up against teams that can't really defend the pass well.
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So CJ. Bethard is going to have a lot of
big games like this. So now you get to week twelve,
week thirteen, right, and I realized I'm projecting a few weeks,
but I'm not saying anything that's not gonna doesn't have
the possibility of happening. But you get two week twelve,
weeks thirteen, and suddenly you know Bethard's been like around
three yards every week and Boys quarterback rating is pretty high.
Quarterback controversy going into next season. You don't know about
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Garoppolo's health and Bethard having a whole year, he will
have more of a resume than Jimmy Garoppolo has ever had.
He plays the rest of this season and suddenly you
can maybe trust him a little bit more. You go in,
I get the Garoppolo is gonna make twenty seven million
dollars next year, but you can't ignore Bethard and how
well he's played. Now, if the Niners want to try
to turn him into something else, and the team thinks
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Bethard could be their starter, he's young enough, he's a
third round pick, that would be a smart thing to do.
But if they're both on the roster and Bethard has
this kind of season, yeah, quarterback controversy. It becomes a curiosity,
right because you're not paying beth third much. You've got
heavily uh invested world of Jimmy Garoppolo the way that
contract was structured. So if beth does perform as well
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as one would anticipate with this schedule coming up, that
you're at least gonna have enough on tape to where
perhaps you're able to flip the flip him for big
picks and and keep fortifying this young nucleus. You've got
a bunch of young parts on defense that you're excited about.
In the front seven. Offensively, Brita's a solid running back.
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Some injury issues that you're worry that those start to
pile up on him, but when he's able, you've seen
some great things out of him. Kittle His has been
a great fine and has become a go to player
for them Goodwin more than a track star, which is
what all he was in Buffalo. Here go run some
more sprints. We're not actually gonna throw you the ball,
but just go through the year. Look at kids work
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and working with Garoppolo came into his own and has
continued that and made big plays tonight. And you still
have Pierre Garson, who's a good, sit down possession guy.
I mean, you've got a pretty solid nucleus. And if
you can take c. J. Beethorn spin him out for picks,
perhaps you've got an opportunity to keep building and give
Garoppolo the tools he needs. And that's what's different about
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Bethard compared to other guys, because you could look and say,
all right, well, Bethard's gonna be like an a J.
McCarron or a Tyrod Taylor or somebody like that. Now
he's different. Mccaren had a very small window of opportunity
to show you played well in a playoff game, but
he didn't really have a lot of starts. And a
guy like Tyrod Taylor has showed his limitations. You know
what kind of quarterback he is. Bethard's a guy hasn't
had a lot of football, was still drafted, I mean
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the third round pick. That's still a guy you think
maybe he can be our starter one day. He's young,
he's aggressive, and he throws the ball downfield. This is
a guy that a team can say, you know what,
we don't might not have to draft our quarter back
in the future. If we go get him and let
him battle it out in training camp with somebody else,
whatever it is, he could really be our long term solution.
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Guys like mccaren and Tyrod Taylor, they're just placeholders anytime
you get guys Josh mccal all those five or six
game guys. But Beth's a guy that's like, well, maybe
hang on, he might be able to be a more
than one season guy, so a team can take a
chance at him, because look, there's not gonna be that
many quarterbacks out there that you can say, all I'll
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make a trade for. Not gonna be that many guys
where you can say, all right, we're gonna get one
in the draft, because it's it's looking like it's a
thinner draft a quarterback than it was last year. So
now suddenly, Beth, this guy could turn out to be something.
And he just watch it's what he does. He throws
down field. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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(11:49):
seven pm Pacific. Oh My, Dodgers in fielder Keika Hernandez
comes off the top rope, not only on his own players,
but on Dodgers fans. The Dodgers losing Milwaukee tonight for nothing.
Dodgers strike out fourteen times, leave a lot of runners
in scoring position, and Keik Hernandez says, well, this is
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everybody's fault. I mean not just stars, but everybody who
came to the game tools. You gotta want it, and
today it was it just wasn't our day. We had
no energy. The stadium had no energy, the fans had
no energy. So overall is a pretty bad game for
everybody that calls himself Dodgers. Yeah, there it is. Oh well,
you know me, geen. We had no energy, the fans
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had no energy, the stick at stadium had no energy.
You had no injury injury, and you had no energy,
and you have a bad tie. Everybody that calls himself Dodgers,
everybody that calls himself Dodgers had a bit. Fans had
no energy. Well, I will have three hits in the
first I will say this, where are they going to
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get the energy from? All right? Fans come to games
and they need to see something exciting to cheer about.
The Dodgers put some runners on base, but over eight
with runners in scoring position or at five hits for
the whole game, four teen strike ket, you didn't score
a run. I mean, what, what does he expect the
stadium to be? Like? Everybody's upstanding, No, you gotta give
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a little There's gotta be a little bit. It doesn't
have to be everywhere. It's not like okay, but there's
gotta be a little bit of stuff. And there was
nothing until the ninth inning, and then the ninth inning. Hey,
things kind of happen. But Cody Bellinger, who suddenly can hit,
and he has Monty Grandal who's having maybe the worst
League Championship Series of anybody in baseball history. Both, yeah,
he needs an exorcism. Both make two outs against Jeremy Jeffers,
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who is the third worst player, and Elsie has history
having a bad LCS. And that's the ninth inning. I mean, look,
I get what Keik Hernandez is trying to do. The
Dodgers have their backs to the wall now, and this
is this is this is Panic City a little bit
because they have now, over the course of three games,
their pitchers, top to bottom, have dominated the Dodgers. The
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only one who's been bad has been Jeremy Jefferson. He
got out of tonight after nearly giving the game back,
after he gets the loss in Game two and almost
lets the Dodgers all the way back in Game one.
He's the only guy. I don't know why Craig Coutslo
continues to put him in games. He's the only guy
the Dodgers are getting to. Now, let's put him in.
Let's put him in games. On this one, he made
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you sweat but he still got the ounce. I don't
he made for good television. He made for good trauma.
If the you know you're watching it, executives, you get
to see the sweat. He would never see inning in
two hits a walk, but he gets the two big
strikeouts to finish things off. The Dodgers were asleep, and
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that's the way it goes. Look, I get it. He's
it's it's a it's a panic situation for the Dodgers.
He's trying to grab everybody by the throat and say, hey,
we all stunk tonight. It's always it's always bad pool
when you blame the fans, because you know what, whether
the fans cheered or not, that doesn't affect That doesn't
affect the fact you didn't get hit with runners of
scoring position. Okay, that does another over ten nights, no effect.
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If if the fans were cheering, you would have got
a hit. I mean that would have been Oh you know,
if the fans are just cheering, I would have got
a hit. Joey would have had a bigger, bigger sign
down the third baseline. If Mary would have inspired Mary
Heart and Mario Lopez had stood up and screamed a
little bit more, we might have been able to score
a couple of runs. I mean that that just doesn't
hold water. Mario Lopez would always be jacked up. Yeah, okay,
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all right. I mean I'd like to see Mary Hart
standing up yelling and her and Larry King, you know,
he helps him up and everybody. But that's the that's
the thing is that is he trying. What he's trying
to do is get everybody REVVD up for tomorrow. You know,
because Game four is a really big deal. You don't
want to go down three one through the last three games.
Being in Milwaukee, you don't want to do that. So
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I'm going to try to get the fans up. But
there is that part of the fan base it's gonna say, oh, really,
you blame it's my fault. It's my it's my fault
you lost to Night. Really, I'm not getting paid. I
think I paid two fifty dollars to come to this game.
I didn't come to the game to not be entertained.
You got paid probably somewhere in the neighborhood of dollars
to play in this game. And okay, but it's my fault.
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I mean really, I mean that's where you want to go.
I get what he's trying to do, but wow, you
know what, no one has ever won by taking on
the fan. I want to go out to the clubhouse,
you want to go after the other guys just say
we need to pick it up, we need to get
it done. That's fine, but this is the case. You
can't get the fans and throw them into it. He
goes over to a walk and a strikeout, and it's
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just never a good idea. Right, this is a guy
that's adored by the fan base, and now he turned heel.
He went in w oh right here. And that's the
thing is that he has gotten big hits in the past. Right,
He's a guy during the season he kind of flies
under the radar. He's got twenty one home runs this year.
He's got a lot of pop. And then when he said,
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it's like, whoa what we kind of really like you k.
We like honesty to a point. Okay, but I'm this
point in the series, he's over six with two walks
and three strikeouts. Well, and that's the whole thing is
that nobody is hitting for the Dodgers. No, that's that's
the bigger question. And look like I said, that's why
I get him trying to snap the Dodgers out of it. Look,
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we all stink, all all of us stink. I'd like
him to say, YASMANI stunk tonight. I stunk tonight, Cody,
he is stunk. Then go back in the clubhouse, give
everybody a bat, and then tell them to go and
bash it and be done with it and try to
exercise some demons. But as soon as you're getting in
front of a microphone and you're starting to pull the
fans into it, and they're they've got nothing to cheer about. No,
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your job is to give them something to cheer about.
That enthusiasm only works in college football and where you're
really liquored up, and for for the NLCS is too expensive.
I know. My point is baseball is a different and
when it comes you just being able to cheer incessantly
over a three hour game, it's not the same thing,
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especially if your team is a not putting runners on,
or when they are they continually fail to either get
him over or get him on get him in, as
the Dodgers did over there. They didn't get him, they
didn't get him on, they didn't get him over and
they didn't get him in and a few attempts that
they had they failed miserably and lailed that pitches well
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out of the strike zone. I just don't I mean,
at this point, if I'm Dave Roberts, I don't care
about what the pitching matchup is. Cody BELLINGERI has Monty
Grandal can't play. I can't put him in the lineup. Look,
Cody Bellinger is one for twenty four in the playoffs
and his final at bad he had the ninth and
he runs a second and third. You know, he pops
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up and he slams his bat down really hard. Mentally,
he is lost. And I know that it's Cody Bellinger
and he's great and he's and he had a nominal
rookie season, but he looks now like he did in
the World Series last year where he got lost, and
I can't wait for him to figure his way out
of it. Grandal is just an energy suck. He can't field,
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he can't hit. I mean, it's it's tough. I mean,
these are the tough decisions. It's not like you don't
have guys you can put in. The Dodgers have guys
on the bench where It's like, boy, they have four
starting caliber players that are on the bench every game
because they're playing the matchups, and I get playing the matchups.
But with the way the Brewers go to the bulb
and they go righty, lefty, righty, lefty, you're gonna wind
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up having left. He's bad against lefties, right he bats
against right ali. You rather have Peak bad against a
ruddy and the left because he's got kind of reverse splits.
But it really doesn't matter at this point. It's like
you have to put guys out there that are getting hits,
and there's not a lot of guys can do it.
So when you look around and I go, the two
guys that are just absolutely killing you in the order
are Bellinger and Grandal, and they're batting back to back
and it's really hard. Bellinger tonight, every time he came
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up with a runner on base, every single time, and
he grounded out into a forced play or a double play,
or struck out or popped up. Ron Dahal can't field,
can't hit. He did have a double tonipe, but it
was one of those blue doubles that that saw the
the you know, that saw the ground and bounce into
the stands. Those are the guys. I said, you know what,
I need something else. You need some kind of energy.
And that is always what will push a team to
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the next level. Is that if you don't have energy,
Like King her Nandez says, it's a lineup overhaul, and
you're put you not like you're not putting guys in
there sitting on your bench. You're putting guys in that
would normally play. Maybe they don't play, depending on the
pitching matchup, and I'm thinking it will be Gonzalez maybe
in Game four, but it doesn't matter. You have to
put guys in that you think you're gonna hit that
can jump start the offense a little bit. That's where
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guys have to hit. There's a second part coming from
KEYK Aaron and Is and to do a great job
of showing up at pagging the stadium every night and
having a lot of passion for the team. Tonight, for
whatever reason, I guess, as contagious as energy can be
from the fans of the players, it was players from
the fans tonight. So he went back in the fans
saying they had no energy, so we had no energy. Yeah,
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it's it's the it's their fault. I mean he doubled
down on it's the fans. You know, I could have
jumped on your back and made you hit with runners
in scoring positions. I didn't know that. That's what I
need energy? Like, could I do that? Like if if
me rooting Sam Donald on so bravely from three thousand
miles away and tweeting on social media, could I get
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the energy of social media and the jets up so
much that he throws a touchdown? If you really want charge,
you might get his hair to move? Can I do that? No,
he's got the helmet on. It's okay. Don't need his
hair to move. I mean, can I doan off? He's
got heartman? He does? He does? Yes, he does have
heartman here, but it's hire. It's high legs by and
it's back a little bit. He almost looks like Todd
for breaking. Have you seen the trailers of the new
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Lego movie. No, it's pretty pretty fine. We'll take a look.
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We have no shortage of topics tonight. I feel like
as the day went along, like, well, here's another one
for Mike, and here's another one, and here's not It's
like you're you're backed up right now. Well, I just
hope I can remember all of these from guy man,
I've never it's all you'd want. There's never been a
shortage of these things to talk about. That's for sure.
It's good for business. Mike keeps those checks coming, right,
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keeps me a job. I keep employees that if all
the officials called everything great, it be no need for all. Right,
So let's start with Emmanuel Sanders yesterday that the big
unsportsmanlike conduct penalty catches what he believes is a touchdown
pass kind of points at the dB and he gets
flag front sportsmanlike conduct? Was that a right flag to throw?
Is that something you gotta keep in your pocket? No? No,
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it is the right flag to throw. Because of the
point I think if if you want to say something
and you walk towards a guy, you're you're gonna be
okay unless you get right into his face and almost
make time act with the helmet. But if you point
going at him and yelling at him, it's the same
as if you're headed into the end zone and you
turn and point at the defender behind you. That's taunting.
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It's the point that got him the trouble that really
took away a touchdown actually then became a fifteen yard
penalty after the reversal, and it was a costly point,
that's for sure. But that's the only thing I would
say the players. Okay, if if you're excited and you
want to say something to the other to your opponents,
say it, but don't make a gesture. Don't point at him.
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That's gonna get your flag every time. Now, Mike, one
of the other players, a frequent rules in fraction participant,
vantes perfect at it once again comes off suspension and
now he's doing flying elbow smashes to defender or to
Antonio Brown already wrapped up on his way to to
a ground. Uh, nothing called on the field. How hard
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does the league come down? And when are we going
to see protections of the players that aren't quarterbacks in
the same fashion. Well, this is a tough one for
the league because of the history. I mean, and and
and I've seen this happen before. You take away the history,
you know, when you look at that play and it's
a minimum, it's a minimum. Fine, but because it's perfect
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with what he's gone through and what he's done, this
is certainly not one of his most egregious hits. Um.
It is a defenseless player who is being wrapped up.
So you do have the you know, the element of
the foul with the you know, with the form to
the head. But I don't really see the League doing
much of anything. I mean, I think that they recognize
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the history, but they also look at how flagrant is
the act. And I think if it's anybody but perfect,
if we all look at that, we think it's not
that flagrant. We say, yeah, that looks like it could
be a foul. But I don't think the League is
gonna overreact just because it is perfect. So fine, probably yes,
but anything beyond that not. You know, the thing is
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and this is what kind of makes me feel like,
you know, my faith in humanity has restored a little bit, Mike,
is that when plays like this happened, or when when
players hit the quarterback and they get called or they
get fined the T J. Watt you know, the phantom
grab at the at the at the legs of Matt
Ryan a week ago. Is that I really thought there
would be some kind of all out revolt at this point.
We're getting the big way point of the season and
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defensive players are beside themselves. But still they've they've carried
themselves in a classy way and just continue to ask questions.
And I you know, it makes me feel like, Okay,
like I said, a little bit of my faith in
humanity is restored. Well, i'd be I'd be done asking
questions when it comes to the quarterback though. I mean,
I think that we've talked about this before. The needle
has gone so far to protect the quarterback that, you know,
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the push, the push after the release of the past
has become a foul. And when you're talking about that,
what hit on Ryan? I mean maybe you could see
there's elements to have found there, but is it enough
that we should be fine dollars for that? I really
don't really don't think there is you know, the we
talked about this at the studios today. You know, you've
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got John runnyon is basically the one that's um, you know,
doling out these fines. And he's probably still a little
piste off because we find him so many times in
the league that now he wants to take it out
and and find some of the other players. He was
a guy that we used to uh send up a
lot of plays with him picking players off of piles
as an offensive lineman. But uh, and you heard about
(26:26):
the players Association now getting involved and wanting to know about,
you know, the fine on what for what really seemed
like it almost wasn't even a bowl on Ryan. So
I think the frustration is starting to build it, You're right.
I mean, I think they've done a pretty good job
of saying, hey, you know, we're trying to understand this,
and and you know, and I take a look at
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you know, everybody's talking about how great the game is
right now, how great it's fantastic. Well, the points are up,
the touchdowns are up, the plays are up. Those poor
defensive guys don't have a damn chance. Fox Sports Radio.
There's a summary statement NFL ten baseball. It's three outcomes football.
The defenders don't have a damn chance. We quote Mike
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Pereira that we're gonna put that on T shirts. Mike,
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Jason fitz You with Mike Armand from the Geico Studios.
Former vice president of Officiating in the NFL, Kurt Rules
analysts over at Fox Sports. Find him on Twitter at
Mike Pereira. You could see the latest uh he and
Dean Blandino going through the calls of this week called
Last Call with Mike Pereira and Dean Blandino. Find that
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on his Twitter account at Mike Pereira. So, Mike, one
of the other players from last night's game. We we
saw the scoring really off the charts Patriots and Chiefs,
just like we thought we would, and then some. But
the play that's really making the rounds when we're talking
about the the young player, Mr speaks and well speaks.
He did about to the Tom Brady play like that
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as he was drifting towards the end zone a potential
sack and says, quote, I let him go because I
thought the ball was gone. Now I thought his body
momentum took it away from being a sack. But that's
just me uh in in plays like that. This is
the first one. This was the doomsday scenario that Smith's
been talking about for six weeks. So as an official,
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you know, you're you're watching that. I mean, how close
is that to where you'd be looking if you had
released hands are on him? You know, we get back
into the quarterback call here listen, you know, and I've
heard this excuse you before, and that's what this is
an excuse to me. I mean, he didn't make the play,
and there is nobody that said that you can't tackle
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a quarterback. My god, you can. You can just grab
him and hold him and get it in the grass call.
So the fact that he says that he let him
go because he didn't know what the pass was released,
I'm like you, I watched it a bunch of times.
That's a big body going to different directions and and
it's not easy to hold on to anybody, even if
it's not the most mobile quarterback like Brady is not.
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So I kind of look at those and say, Okay,
we're having a tough enough time trying to get what
is roughing the past or what is not. I think
we're getting better, especially when it comes to landing on
top of the quarterback with all of your body weight.
But to go where he went. Um, you know Mr
Speak has spoken. Um, I think he gave one of
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the all time great excuses for not making a football
play by it Andy Mike. Lastly, just because this this
came up today, the Patriots found the fan that threw
the beer on Tyree Kill after his touchdown. He's been
banned from the stadium. Is this something that officials are
gonna have to start watching out for treatment of players
like when something like this happens. Not that it's part
of their official job, but just hey, I saw this
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fan did this. We have to get security out there. Well,
I mean, I think you you could if it came
from I mean, you would never get involved at the time.
I mean because there's no jurisdiction. You as an official
only have jurisdiction on the plane field. You don't have
any any jurisdiction off the playing field. Now, they wanted
to use them because there was a a spectator and
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they could help identify who the spectator was. I guess
you could do that, but they got enough problems on
the field. I don't think that the last thing they
need to do. And I remember before the season, none
of if you remember this or not, that's the whole
national anthem thing. There was some discussion about having the
official flag the teams who's had had a player kneel
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on the sideline, and MY response was like, are you
kidding me? I mean, here's a group of officials, it's
already being ridiculed and out during the national anthem. They're
gonna be turning and look at the players to see
who's kneel and then then launch a flag there in
the middle of it. They have enough to do on
the field, and I think that's the last thing they
should really have to worry about, is what spectator throws
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the beer bottle out of the stands or or that
type of things. So I don't, I don't did that happen?
Palm on Twitter at Mike Pereira. That's at Mike Pereira
for a VP of officiating in the NFL, current rules
analyst at Fox. Mike is always buddy, appreciate and enjoy
the rest of the game tonight. We'll talk to you soon.
You got it, Thanks, Mike. Be sure to catch live
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