May 9, 2024 • 36 mins
Jason and Mike debate if Nikola Jokic deserved his third MVP Award. The Knicks won again. And what the heck was Rick Carlisle thinking???
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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ears and you listen, and you strained to listen, you
can hear very faintly rattling through the valleys, out through
the dell, over expansive glens of land. You can hear it,
and maybe it's just a whisper. Go New York, go,
New York, goat go New York, go, New York go.
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And then it gets louder as it gets closer. Go
New York, Go New York. Goat, Go New York, Goat,
New York, goat, and suddenly it envelops you like it envelops.
Mike Harmon right now, who is watching lightning split his
brain in half watching the Knicks on the Pacers in
Game two of the Eastern Conference Semifinals.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I was enjoying it until about thirty five seconds ago,
because that insipid chant comes up. I gotta ask a
question though, as we get the fourth quarter going in
earnest here Jalen Bruns, who was aware that is over
under We's thirty seven and a half, right, thirty seven,
because that seems to be why he's shooting a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Uh, yeah, he may be. He's suddenly just.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Chucking up the ball from wherever. At this point, it's
like it's my time to shine. Hey, I missed the
entire second quarter. Okay, I need I need to make
up all Let's go. You know, I got the streak
of forty plus games in a row. I gotta have
more than that.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Right now, eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter
Nix and the Pacers, it is a one point Nick lead,
one oh two, one oh one. TJ McConnell with a
lay in as he wants to bark at the New
York crowd. Okay, that's fine, Still a lot of time left,
eight minutes left to go. And look, I know he
finished fifth in MVP voting, all right, but just just eventually,
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eventually everyone's gonna come around to how great a player
Jalen Brunson is. And maybe today is that day. Okay,
maybe end of the first quarter, Brunson leaves. You can
see when he tweaked his toe during a possession, doesn't
play the entire second quarter. Pacers outscore the Knicks by ten.
They lead by ten at halftime. Third quarter, Jalen Brunson
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comes back. Knicks outscore the Pacers by eighteen. They take
the lead. Brunson, Yes, only with only only with eighteen tonight,
but you have all five Knick starters and double figures
the Knicks rally. I mean eventually today, maybe that day,
and depending how this game goes, still a long way
to go, but eventually people are gonna finally put away
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their bias and their hate for the Knicks, and they're
Jalen Bloodson's not not electric, he's not fast, he doesn't dunk,
so I like the other guys better than him, and
I'm not going to give him credit because I like
Anthony Edwards making threes and making the Jordan shrug back
down the court. I like seeing the big dunks. I
like seeing that they don't understand. Maybe today is that day.
I'm not holding out it's not. Maybe today is that.
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Today is not that? But maybe not.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, it won't be.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Oj on on Anobi is out with a hamstring injury,
so he will not return for these final eight plus minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So that's okay. You Wing has come in. He has
played pretty well so far they have. He has limited
the touches for Miles Turner, so I've been pretty out.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Okay, nicely done there. As for the brunts and thing,
we've seen this, right, You've got to build the story.
You got to build a story arc like you're in Hollywood.
That's the way it works towards MVP. That's why you
Stannakopa was still fourth in balloting, which makes no sense
at all, But you know the other three ahead of
him when you talk about Yo Kitchen, Sga and Luka Donchez,
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that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
We've been building towards this and now Jalen Brunson. As
we've discussed over the last week or so, how many
times in our business do people really ever say I'm sorry,
I got this wrong. They usually just waited out till
a guy retires or has a career ending injury, and
then they never have to utter those words.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
He's done. See I told you he was fragile here.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Jalen Brunson's got a bunch of guys that have come
to the to the pulpit, that has come to the
rectory to say, all right, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
To have my confession.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I am going to take my penance because I was
wrong about Jalen Brunson. We've seen it. But now that
that doesn't help for voting for this year, that's done.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
That's gone.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
The Maya culpis came after votes had to be submitted.
Unfortunately they don't include playoff runs. Maybe they should.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
By the way they give the guy like the guy
wasn't great going into the playoffs, He's in as great
as he was in the regular seat. He's at a
new level of the playoffs. He's the leading scorer in
the playoffs for all the Oh, Anthony Edwards is so great?
You still finish fifth. Jalen Brunson's the leading scorer in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, but how many highlights do you have? Okay, here
he is running over McConnelly. Yeah, that's not sexy.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, I know that's what it is. People don't know.
I want. I want the sexy high lights. I want.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Why am I not Network TV star in prime time
because I don't look quite the part.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I'm a fire plug.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, but I'm walt damned handsome and I yell better
than any of these clients.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But here I am.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You can't go to rehearsals and tryouts wearing jaunty fedoras
and purple shorts. They're not gonna I keep telling you
not to do that. They're not gonna take you. Seriously,
go no, but this is who I am. And you
pick a special feather out for the cap, you're gonna
wear them. Sometimes you match the purple hat to your shorts.
I'm like, they're not gonna hire you if you like that,
And you say no, I'm still gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Kind of asked a wardrobe once they hire me. Until then,
it's pure harm.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Until where whatever I want?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Where would I want to?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You realize this is it? This is a tryout, right, and.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Hey, I'm wearing Fred Sandford. Sure, you guys know that
none of this matters, right, none of this matters?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, hang on, hang on? Do you know frostburg By
Now he's had this, he's had this punchline and this
holster for the entire day. But I will help you.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I was waiting for something good, just saying the Dodger
ones on the Dodgers one.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I'm like, yeah, it's Wednesday, Okay, okay, let's go.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Hang on, okay, justin, why does none of this matter.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Because the Dodgers won? What are you deaf that I
hit the ball again the air?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You're done with it? Tom Brady got roasted because that
was your line the other day. There was always something.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Oh I'm way past that.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Okay, you're past Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
We can bring that back again. I mean that played.
I'd rather bring back a pace or win.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Uh well, look, the NBA would like to because then
it would be a series. If not, it's two nothing
knicks and that's it.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
You know, he's not playing in this game the rest
of the work.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Who's not. Yeah, no, Look, it's like every couple of
games we lose somebody. Eventually, the Knicks are gonna finish
his playoff with four guys on the court, and they're
gonna say, TIBs, there's guys on the roster you could
put in. No, no, no, I don't trust anybody. I'm
gonna play with these four. Yeah, but TIBs are not done.
Doesn't matter. We're gonna go with these guys, I.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Mean the fifth Look, look.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
That's why I always look Anunobe, who's who had a
great game, And look, he's in line for a huge
payday the difference he brought to the Knicks when he
came there. But look he's out with a sore left hamstring.
Who knows what his availability is gonna be for the
rest of the playoffs. You don't even know. But like,
if it to be serious about this with with the Knicks,
I sit here and go, you know what, this is
a magic carpet ride, right, I mean, they have a
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phenomenal team and Jalen Brunson is otherworldly. But eventually, you know,
playing these guys, and now these guys are gonna have
to play all forty eight minutes of the next game
because Anonoby may not play. I mean, event it's gonna
run out. If I'm the Celtics, I'm going this is unbelievable.
We don't have to worry about the Bucks because Giannis
was hurt and didn't play. After it, We're rolling through
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the playoffs. The Knicks are losing guys every five seconds.
We know we can beat the crap out of the Pacers. Okay,
the Celtics like, pinch me, this isn't this isn't real.
We're rolling through the play We're gonna walz into the
NBA finals. This is unbelievable. I mean, look, that's that's
how it should go. Because for the Knicks, look, it's
a magic carpet rde do. I hope they have enough
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for Indiana? Of course I do, right, because this is
a series that could go either way. Both teams are
pretty even, especially with the Knicks not being deep, so
I get it. But when it gets to the conference finals, boy,
I'm telling you, man like that, the Knicks are playing
with house money at that point, because it's okay, everybody
expects Botson to win. They're the better team, and the
Knicks are playing with an iron five. Who knows they're
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down to four by the next time.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I have no idea well out there, Yeah, but that
Rimes checked in.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, do you not see that? And you know, and
you know the thing is starting with foreign having Hartenstein
come off the bench. Still it's really.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Right there.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But since we have begun speaking, the Knicks have taken
a five point lead over the Pacers. Jalen Brunson with
a bucket and a three. It looks like he is
taking his matchup with TJ McConnell person.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yea. They have off each other a couple of times
and he got a little testy.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He had one of those buckets a couple of minutes ago,
and and one where he came down the floor. McConnell
was in his hip pocket. McConnell was trying to get
physical with him. But it's nothing more than banging up
and down the floor. It's not like there was found,
but it was banging up and down the floor. And
you can tell. And Brunson goes in for the layup
and and he flexes after which he doesn't do a
lot of and you could tell right there it's like, Okay, TJ.
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McConnell's walking around like he owns Madison Square Garden, Like
suddenly he's great. Instead of a guy that, hey, look
I'm really motivated here, like I play in high school
and coach just told me I'm going to start, So
I'm giving you everything I have. Uh So I get
that that that part of it, but you could just
tell it's a little bit personal. I'm not saying it
woke brunts it up, but playing at the level he's
at hitting some of these shots is just is just unbelievable. Right,
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And it's a two point lead for the Knicks right
now with five and a half k Well, I mean,
look the way that everybody still tries to stop him,
and he's still shorter than everybody on the court. He
weighs less than everybody on the court, and he still
scores points. The way he does strategy, just think about it.
Just just think about it, Manda, strategy is phenomenal. I'll
let him score. So we'll have more on this game
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coming up again. Two point lead by the Knicks with
five and a half left to go. Still a lot
of time left here. But as Mike mentioned, MVP vote
comes in and Nicola Jokic once again wins the MVP
in the NBA. It's his third overall MVP. He wins
it over Shi Gildes Alexander who finishes second, and Luca
don Si who finishes third, Jalen Brunson finishing fifth. And
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when I see Jokic win, you know, I think of Mike,
this is weird. But when I see Jokic win and
I go okay. Obviously everybody voting understands the genies of
Nicole Jokic and how well he plays and some of
the stuff he does is just it's amazing. It's almost
like he's a bigger Jalen Brunson, where boy, the guy
just runs around and kind of doesn't play really fast
and still makes some unbelievable plays. What I think of
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here is that, Wow, how did Shaquille O'Neil not have
at least three four MVPs? He was more dominant than
Jokic was when he played. Did he have Jokica's skill set? No,
he didn't. And I'm not saying that they're the same
kind of player, but there was nobody who was more
valuable in his heyday with the magic with the Lakers
than Shaquille O'Neil an. He won one and I'm like, really,
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and even the year where he should have waltzed away
with it unanimously. Fred Hickman votes for Alan Ivers since right,
So it wasn't a unanimous MVP like Shakshak easily should
have come away with three or four MVPs, but the
bias against him, there are a lot of people who
didn't like him, didn't take the game seriously. Just he's
very polarizing as a star. Didn't make his free throws,
didn't really expand his game, so I could see where
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he was polarizing. But when I see jokch Win, I
feel like it's a fade of I'm just gonna give
the guy the MVP every year, no matter what he does,
no matter where the Nuggets finished, no matter what, as
long as his numbers are the same, he winds up
winning the MVP. And I feel like Shack should have
had at least three, at least three, maybe four MVPs
in his heyday. Wally was playing in the nineties in
early two thousand.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, that's the unfortunate part of it, right, you get
to that we're tired of you. And last year there
was the backlash led by Kendrick Perkins and others saying
well screw this and called people out and tried to
make it a race thing and whatever else, and look
and Beade had a hell of a year. So he
ends up walking away with the award. So I wonder
how much of Yo gets winning this year, as people go, well,
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we kind of screwed the guy last year. They didn't
do anything different, so let's make that one right. And
then now you know, we clap our hands and all
bets are off, and we see what happens going forward,
whether it's your guy brunts and the emergence of Victor Wembin,
Yama Edwards, whoever it is from there, Ian, because you
go back in time, I mean go back to Jordan.
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All of a sudden, there was al lock of years
he didn't win it and was down in the voting
a bit like he's already won a couple, he's winning titles.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
He doesn't need an MVP Award.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Move on.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
We we certainly saw that right, because you had he
won back to back years. Then you go Barkley, Elijah
On Robinson, Okay, Jordan out of basketball. Jordan comes back,
and then Malone a couple of times. Then you're one
year for Shaquille O'Neal, and then I had.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
No choice but to give it to him that year, well,
we have felt it to him this.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Year, but you had a couple of years where you know,
you split the vote between he and Kobe, So that's
part of it. And then Tim Duncan wasn't flashy, but
you'll the the big fundamental won people over for MVP Awards.
That's the one I was. I'm always shocked at Wait
he won back to back. He didn't do anything at
a highlight reel that what anybody would have seen come
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on except for the obvious I call bank jokes. Then
you get into the Steve Nash era and everything else.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But but everybody liked Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan didn't go
off and do movies in the off season. So where
critics say, oh, if he was about basketball, he'd be
doing it, he'd be doing more. He wouldn't be doing movies,
wouldn't be doing you know, Shazam or whatever it was, Kauzam. Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I get you alone.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I disagree with it, but I get it. And it's
a much different landscape, uh than than it was now.
But Duncan was someone that everybody why because Jim Duncan
didn't do anything well.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Essentially the same guy as we've talked about.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Right, Other than loving harness racing and his horses and
his family, going to clubs and being the seven footer
uh towering over everybody else and then now dressing up
his groove, there ain't a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think the only thing k does is he tells
his brothers, Okay, nothing too out of control.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Okay, I can fight a little bit, don't do.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Nothing, do it all right? I watch what happens to Mahomes,
all right, I don't I don't need that. I want
something else. I don't need that exit out about a
Fresca exit swollen to on the Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Carbett. Seriesly, it should be three
or four MVPs for Shaquille O'Neil. Unbelievable. Right now, there
are three and a half minutes left to go in
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the fourth quarter, and the Knicks I feel like I
need to talk like Marv Albert and the next lead.
The Pacers now one seventeen to one ten. Jalen Brunt's hit,
a couple of shots, a couple of offensive rebounds by
de Vincenzo Preciosa. Chua is scoring right now. So it
is a seven point lead for New York. Still a
lot of time left here, three and a half to
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go in the fourth quarter. Coming up next, we'll have
more in this game. Obviously. It is the gex why
there's only one game tonight, because how do you top
the next? I mean, you just can't. But we have
other big stories out of the NBA coming up next,
including what player suddenly has the most at stake in
the NBA playoffs. That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
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Speaker 1 (15:56):
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Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Minute and a half left to go,
the Knicks lead the Pacers one twenty four to one eighteen.
The Pacers trying to deny the basketball to Jingalen Brunson.
They're able to get it across half court. Dante deven
Ncenzo hits a huge three to give the Nicks a lead.
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But now the Pacers use a little bit of strategy
to kind of get back in the game. Here a
little bit. Uh, you saw a world class flop by
Halliburton that got them to the free throw line.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
No, no, forearms shivered him in.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
The bad stop.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Come on, don't go back and go back and watch it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And Nick, don't just be opposite me just because you
feel like it, because you sound foolish. He fell down, Yes,
he put his arm up, he fell down. It was
a world class flop. I'm not saying it wasn't a
great play. It was a great play because it put
him on the free throw line. One twenty four to
one eighteen. Now they're just there's a discrepancy at half court.
The referees look like they called a double dribble on
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Isaiah Hartenstein. As the Knicks are trying to get the
ball across half court. Rick Carlisle is screaming at the
official because it looks like they brought the call back.
Now I'm watching the replay and it looks like he's
dribbling again. I don't know what the call. It looked
like it was double dribbled. He tried to make that
and tried to make that sign, but then they look
and said it wasn't. Carlisle is upset, but it's still
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a six point lead for the Knicks with a minute
ten left to go. I mean, every time the Knicks
have the ball, I'm outside my mind because I'm like,
oh my god, they don't have it. Jalen Brunson. Is
he gonna be able to keep hitting shots like this?
Is he gonna keep making it? Can they keep getting
offensive rebounds like they do? And they have and they
keep getting them, and they keep holding onto the ball
and they keep possession. And I'm just saying to myself,
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the Pacers have to be saying, why don't you just die?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Whys hog stick legs like the Energizer bunny.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean, how how can you Why can't you just die?
They're gonna keep possession on this play because it's off
the Pacers out of bound. Like it's like, we're doing
everything we can. You're losing players. Jalen Brunston had to
sit out an entire quarter. Why won't you die? We
keep doing everything there, this has to do it. No,
the Knicks keep sitting up like Michael Myers at the
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end of Halloween. It just keeps happening. It's I mean it.
This is such a fun series to watch. It's such
a fun team. And I'll tell you, man, you can
cancel the rest of the players. Just keep giving me
Knicks Pacers games. I don't think anybody else in the
NBA would disagree. I think they would sign up for
like fifteen of these games because they're just so much fun.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You just included the Pacers in that because it's fun,
because the team the next can beat Mike.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Look, Look, it's it's look, it's it's a case of look,
the Pacers are fun. Reggie Miller's in the house, the
Boogeyman is there. Nicks Pacers brings everybody back to the nineties. Everybody,
at least in their forties who watch basketball remembers this
and it was fun and I was younger and thinner,
and I could run all day and I could eat
whatever I wanted to and not gain any weight. No,
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it's a big throwback, man, this is what it is.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You know who's loving this game? Who's more than the Knicks?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
The so just well, yeah, listen, we talked about that.
The Celtics have to be saying, all right, if we
don't get to the finals and win this year, we're
never gonna do it a right. Suddenly there's a ton
of pressure on the Celti instead of hey, we're the
best team. We should prove ourselves and win. It's dude,
the door is wide open, not just one door. It's
French doors. French doors that open up to a backyard
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filled with a pool and trees and some kind of
there's cricket bats everywhere and you can play lawn bowling.
This isn't the French doors wide open for the Celtics
to get to the finals and win. Because in the
West you can tell for some of these teams. Look,
Minnesota and Oklahoma City is going to be a rock
fight for seven games. If they wind up playing you
see the energy that's expended by some of these squads
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getting through and the Celtics. I don't know that any
of them have taken a shower in the last two weeks.
I know they've had to go through and I still
smell pretty good. Didn't you sweat? Hw We won that
game one thirteen to seventy two. Oh, you're right, I
really I don't think any of them have bathed because
they haven't had to, because I only bathe and I'm dirty,
and no, I still smell pretty good. All the pressure
in the world is on the Celtics because they should
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get there and they should win, like this is their year.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Suddenly, Well that's the thing, though, it's been there for
a while, right because ran away with the Eastern Conference,
and it becomes the like the Dodgers every year, we
do the same thing, right, all right, this is great
in May, and we enjoy the moments, right, you enjoy
the wins, the Otani home runs and whatever else. It's
all great. Doesn't matter till you get October because that's
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what you're playing for. With the Celtics, after last year,
coming into the season, it was the should they break
them up? Should Missoula have been fired. All of that
was coming off of that playoff run. So as you
get into these rounds and you're watching the attrition and
the knicks falling one by one and whether they're available
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or not, and these guys killing themselves for forty eight
minutes then and with Cleveland made Jared Allen, is he
ever going to be cleared to play?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I don't know this.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean, that's a guy that was what sixteen and
eleven or something like that that isn't there. You don't
have a force in the middle. So yeah, you're walking
through even with porzingis sidelined. The expectation is that it
it's you're at least in the finals and then whatever
comes from there. But yeah, certainly for the Celtics, it's
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been that for a long time. As soon as Doc
Rivers got hired and the Bucks started to fall off.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
See what I did there?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I see, I see what you did.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Im off the hook there, But.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's it's it's not Doc's fault, right, remember, no matter what,
it is not Doc's fault.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
And gets hurt, Lillard gets hurt, all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
But you know, uh, and now we have just seen
a big I wouldn't say a reversal of fortune because
the Knicks are now up one twenty seven, one point
eighteen with thirty three seconds left. We have seen Brunson
make a floater for an eight point lead, and now
he is shooting technicals because Rick Carlisle has just been ejected.
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Rick Carlisle got ejected. He was upset over the officials
taking back the double dribble call, which still he was
harping on. He's on the court and he's clapping in
the official's face. Now at this point, look, the Knicks
are up by seven and there's thirty five seconds left
to go, but he's sitting there clapping in the officials face.
And I don't care what you do when you when
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you clap in the officials face, you're gonna get ejected.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
That's what you've had enough.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Now, his guys had actually hit some free throws earlier
in the quarter, it might have been a little different game.
They missed their first five in the fourth quarter. But
I think the point he was trying to make was,
how come we can review this in real time, but
I can't get this kickball thing overturned? Yeah, I mean,
let's be consistent here. Fellas, that's all we're asking for.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You know what, what do I say the Pacers? Look,
they focused too much on that after the first game,
and now they're going to focus on the officiating again,
because I'm sure they're going to sit back and say, oh,
you know, if that, if that was called a double dribble,
which I still don't know what Rick Carlile was yelling.
I'm sure we'll figure it out and in the break
and we see more things happen. But I'm like, real,
that's you saying if you got that call, you don't
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won the game. I mean, they really just just like,
if you got the call in game one, you would
have won. If you had gotten the kickball, you would
have won. But I'm sure they're going to find a
way to figure out a way to say that.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I think he's just really upset that his his acting
career has gone in the in the tank, that is true.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
He was really good in The Truman Show. Yeah, yeah,
I watched that a little bit earlier here.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean, he got a good run he did.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I mean, well, you had three hundred million dollar movies
in nineteen ninety four. In the Mask, you know, Josh
Hart has just leaned over to talk to Reggie Miller
with twenty seconds left in the game and there's a
timeout on the floor. I have no idea what he said.
Devincenzo was shooting free throws. Uh, but he leaned over
to six something to Reggie Miller. Again. We'll find out
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after the game, but I'll tell you this has been
some kind of last fourth quarter by the run by
the Knicks here because they're gonna win this game and
they're gonna be up two games to none, and the
Pacers are gonna walk away going what the hell else
do we have to do? Right? Like, that's it. They're
not fouling. The countdown is going on, Nicks are going
up to zip. And before we get into any more analysis,
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I just want to say, go New York, Go New York, Go,
go New York, New York. Coat, Go New York, Go
New York. Coat. One thirty one twenty one is the
final look at the next Okay, now we can get
back to basketball analysis of this game.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You feel good. You feel good.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I feel a wonderful That's what's.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Because don't want to I don't want to overwhelm you,
because this is going to be three and a half
hours of Go New York, goat New York, Goat, Go
to York, go to you.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
We're not on in New York. Let's talk about other things.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm pretty sure we are pretty sure you are city.
I'm pretty sure on Channel Lady three serious ExM, we're
on across the company. Of course you should check we're on,
buddy check it. See where we're on.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
On Channel Lady three serious excent.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
We'll just say you know that you don't want to
give a shout out, you know, because we need that
local affiliate as well.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah. No, and just and just trying to look at
all the things that are trending on Twitter. At the
top Jalen Brunson, The Knicks are at the top than
their survivors. DJ McConnell, Rick, Carlyle Shack. I think maybe
we got Shack trending with our conversation a few minutes ago.
So hey, Congrad, check you out. Well.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
He also had that conversation with Jokic, saying I voted
and Shae should have been MVP.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
No offense, no offense, But.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I just want to say I didn't vote for him.
But look, this is now a two games to none
lead for the Knicks, and if you are the pacer,
let's let's think about this in the pacer seconds. We
have a lot to get to with Brunson and the
Knicks and what they're doing. Who knows, If I don't
know he's even gonna be able to play. I don't
even know. But if you're if you're the pace, you're saying,
what do we have to do? You're upset at the
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refs speak for whatever the call you wanted on on Hartenstein, right,
but you're like, what do we have to do? Because
this was a game where we came out and we
did again what we wanted to do, especially since we
got a big game from Halliburton. What did he say
from him early? Right, Well, at least he's still thirty
four to nine. He was huge early. What did I
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tell you what's gonna happen? He was going to be
out early? And I told you if if the Pacers
get out to like a ten to twelve to two lead,
I'll be worried. But if it's a game early, then
I'm then I'm not gonna be that concerned because this
is where the Pacers have to come out and if
they're mad, and they throw the hammer down to the
Knicks early and make them play from behind, make them
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expend a lot of energy, and they didn't, and the
Knicks hung with them. But if you're the Pacers, you're saying, okay,
at halftime, we had everything going the way we wanted, right,
we had Halliburton cooking, we had our bench was going crazy,
Obi topping back in New York, was hitting threes. Right.
TJ McConnell finished with ten and twelve assists, and he's
strutting around like he's Alan iverson right, like, yeah, this
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is how good I am. Dude, you'r TJ McConnell. Take
it easy. You had everything going, You had everything you needed.
And again in another game where you did what you wanted.
You made Jalen Brunson work as hard as he could,
You made the Knicks make as many shots as they could.
You made the Knicks have to play with five guys,
and then Andrew Noby's out for for most of the
second half. You did everything you needed and still you're
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going home down.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Do you know what you forgot to do going home?
You forgot to play defense. You you forgot to play defense.
The Nick shot fifty seven percent from the field fifty
seven percent. I'm the kind of seven Yeah exactly, I'm
now in the the Josh Hart, the the love hate
that America will have with him, like you love how
hard he works. He chirps an awful lot after every rebound. Yeah,
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well he gets old after a while. Yeahound can get
him get back up the court. I can see that.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
But still playing forty eight minutes and going to maybe
told Reggie Miller, Hey, Reggie, go blake yourself. Well that's
exactly what everywhere.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I'm glad that Spike Lee gave you those frame newspapers.
I'm glad you had your fun talking about coming back
and being this agitator and being on the call. Because
he wasn't originally assigned to this series, but they added
him for special effect.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Mike Breen off the him for ratings because nobody's watching this.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Are you kidding? Come on, come on, man, you can't.
This is the only series anybody cares about? This is it?
That's why millions?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
What kind of poll did you take?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
What dude, what games are you gonna put on the
air better than this? Hey, let's put three other games
that are thirty point blowouts on the air, and people
are gonna watch the whole game.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
You no one's gonna watch thirty point blowouts are gonna
be when you play the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
No one's gonna watch the Nuggets unless you're gonna say, baby,
let's see what Jamal Murray throws on the court today.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
How much for Anonoby's hamstring?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Okay, dude, it doesn't matter. You know he's gonna be
out for the playoffs. Come on, man, this is how
it works for the Knicks. Is you know he's gonna
be out?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Come on, Why can't I have you had to break
them them?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'll tell you coming up next. I don't know how
we're gonna bleep this, but we're gonna find a way.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
We're not We're we're get fired.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
We'll just get that. But there's some audio coming from
the end of this Knicks Pacers gave that is just
absolutely outstanding plus plus. As great as things are right now,
I can see a real dark side for them being serious,
I can see a real dark side for the Knicks
that's coming up right now. We have a huge night
to break down here, NBA and more, keep it right here,
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Jason and Mike.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
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Speaker 1 (30:15):
Jason Smith's Show with My best Friend Mike Harmon Live
from the tirec dot Com Studios, where another thriller goes
to the Knicks at Madison Square Garden one to one
twenty one. The Knicks beat Indiana take a two games
non lead into Friday's Game three. Rick Carlisle's postgame I'm
sure will be insane, of course, gets thrown out in
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the final minute of the game, which we'll get to
that story coming up in a few minutes. But look,
this is the Knicks winning this game, and in the
final thirty seconds it was just Bedlin at Madison Square Garden.
So much so that we're trying to get this edited
because we can't. We can't wait too clean. Yeah, it
is because you can hear Nick fans channing. Is one,
(31:00):
because Reggie Miller was doing the game for TNT. Nick
fans are screaming, blank, you Reggie, blank, you Reggie. Imagine
twenty thousand people screaming blank, you Reggie.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
This is Jason. There's only two ways we can go
about this. Audio.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, we can either play it and get fired or.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Well, I mean you could get fired. I'm good because
I was also thinking. Josh Hart walked over to make
sure he understood what they were chanting.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
No, you understand what they're saying. So it's a package deal.
We're all gone, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, listen, Reggie. They're not saying lou.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah. And he was very explicit about it, you know.
But we do welcome in all our friends, fans, and
family in listening in the Greater New York area on
the iHeartRadio app because you know that works everywhere in
the glob Now.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Look, because the Carlisle stuff is just so crazy, which
we'll get to because he's upset over another call at
the end. Again, in twenty years, the Pacers will be saying,
if we got that kickball call and get out against
the Knicks, we don't want the NBA to cut again.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
In terms of the call itself, he's not wrong, but
you can't fix aing on it.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Man.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
You gotta still coach him up.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
He look, here's that You want to look at a
dark side, right, because it's been all go New York, Go,
New York, Go for the last four and I get that,
and there's gonna be a lot more of it. But
here are the Knicks up to zip right, going into
game three, even though the winners of the if you
win the first two games, you win the series eighty
percent of the time. Right, the Knicks are going into
game three not knowing the status of Ogianooby, who left
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the game today with a with a hamstring strain and
who knows when he's gonna be able to play again.
Is a guy that in three quarters and twenty eight
minutes had twenty eight points. He's one of the Iron five.
Jalen Brunson, as you said after the game, are you
gonna be okay for Game three? He says, yeah, I
don't know. Could I see the Knicks sacrificing game three
saying you know what we're gonna do, Shake Milton's gonna play,
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and Alec Burks is gonna play, and Bernard King is
gonna play, and Charlie Ward is gonna play, and whatever
happens in game three happens in game three, and we
hope to get everybody back for game four. I can
completely see that, right. My point is this is that
even though this is too's it, if I'm being completely honest.
Do I say to myself this series feels over? I don't. No,
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I don't, because I can see the Pacers going home.
They're like a hornet's nest right now. I can see
them coming back to New York going Okay, Pacers protected
home court. It's a three game series, Knicks have home
court advantage. I'm being honest with you. Is all the
go to you? Does this series feel like it's over?
Or does it feel like the Pacers still have whatever
reserves they have left in the tank and they're gonna
press the NOSS button like in Fast the Theories to
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get a little bit more going. No, this series is
not over. I feel like there's still a lot left
to go from the Pacers because I could see the
Pacers taking control because of the Knicks health. This is
not over.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, your guys are dropping like flies.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
And even if Bronson's there, I mean we've been talking
about the many a weary minute and all the hits.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I mean that all adds up.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
It's body blow after body blow, which gets us into
that whole NBA versus NHL or NFL conversation that's been
going on that started yesterday. But for the Pacers. You
got forty six points off your bench on the road, right.
What it's the old adage that, hey, these guys are
more comfortable and play better at home. So can they
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be even better and more integrated to what's going on?
Can you actually get something offensively from Turner? He was
terrible again. And Haliburton had a great game, you know,
in the in the first half. He was huge second
half in particularly in the fourth quarter. Didn't see the
ball a ton, They missed a ton of free throws,
and they gave up once again. I got to point
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out fifty shooting from the fieldsill. Everything else doesn't matter.
You're not playing defense. They're getting wide open looks.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Well, the Knicks are moving the ball really well, because
the reason they're getting wide up and looks is because
the Knicks have figured out, Okay, when Brunson brings it
across half court and the Pacers try to double him,
he makes the pass out Heart or Devincenzo comes out
to get the ball, and now suddenly it's four on
three and the Knicks move the ball quickly. That's the
whole thing. They don't get out of it and say, okay,
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let's reset back to Brunson. No, the Knicks are decisive.
And that's the biggest thing is that when Brunson passes
out of that double team, the Knicks are decisive, and
it's Devincenzo to heart for a three, or heart to
Devincenzo for a three, or a dribble in and you
draw the defender in and it's a pass to Hartenstein
for a dunk or a layup. That's the key to
be to be honest, is that the Knicks get out
of that double team and are decisive. So suddenly the
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we're gonna try to stop Jalen Brunson from from attacking
with the ball. The Knicks have figured it out over
the last couple of games because they closed down the
stretch here they escaped in game one. They closed down
the stretch here. They have figured out that part of
the pacers.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Oh, you get the physicality, you know, you see how
much energy you're still getting down the stretch. No, An
Andobi and we'll keep an eye on what his status is.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Gone.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, your Knicks fatalism and coming over the top says
you won't see him again. But you just see Hartenstein
like there's no quit like any ball to the rexs like,
all right, I'm gonna force you to call the goaltend,
like we're not conceding anything down low, still diving on
the floor for loose balls, all of that. It's easy
to like and certainly to where they're closing it out
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with that extra energy, because, as you say, one team's
certainly not quitting, and I'm certainly not calling the Pacers
quitters either, but you know, the resiliency, plus the home crowd,
everything else trying to get into your paces has not
been there for the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
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ears and you listen, and you strained to listen, you
can hear very faintly rattling through the valleys, out through
the dell, over expansive glens of land. You can hear it,
and maybe it's just a whisper. Go New York, go,
New York, goat go New York, go, New York go.
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And then it gets louder as it gets closer. Go
New York, Go New York. Goat, Go New York, Goat,
New York, goat, and suddenly it envelops you like it envelops.
Mike Harmon right now, who is watching lightning split his
brain in half watching the Knicks on the Pacers in
Game two of the Eastern Conference Semifinals.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I was enjoying it until about thirty five seconds ago,
because that insipid chant comes up. I gotta ask a
question though, as we get the fourth quarter going in
earnest here Jalen Bruns, who was aware that is over
under We's thirty seven and a half, right, thirty seven,
because that seems to be why he's shooting a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Uh, yeah, he may be. He's suddenly just.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Chucking up the ball from wherever. At this point, it's
like it's my time to shine. Hey, I missed the
entire second quarter. Okay, I need I need to make
up all Let's go. You know, I got the streak
of forty plus games in a row. I gotta have
more than that.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Right now, eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter
Nix and the Pacers, it is a one point Nick lead,
one oh two, one oh one. TJ McConnell with a
lay in as he wants to bark at the New
York crowd. Okay, that's fine, Still a lot of time left,
eight minutes left to go. And look, I know he
finished fifth in MVP voting, all right, but just just eventually,
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eventually everyone's gonna come around to how great a player
Jalen Brunson is. And maybe today is that day. Okay,
maybe end of the first quarter, Brunson leaves. You can
see when he tweaked his toe during a possession, doesn't
play the entire second quarter. Pacers outscore the Knicks by ten.
They lead by ten at halftime. Third quarter, Jalen Brunson
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comes back. Knicks outscore the Pacers by eighteen. They take
the lead. Brunson, Yes, only with only only with eighteen tonight,
but you have all five Knick starters and double figures
the Knicks rally. I mean eventually today, maybe that day,
and depending how this game goes, still a long way
to go, but eventually people are gonna finally put away
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their bias and their hate for the Knicks, and they're
Jalen Bloodson's not not electric, he's not fast, he doesn't dunk,
so I like the other guys better than him, and
I'm not going to give him credit because I like
Anthony Edwards making threes and making the Jordan shrug back
down the court. I like seeing the big dunks. I
like seeing that they don't understand. Maybe today is that day.
I'm not holding out it's not. Maybe today is that.
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Today is not that? But maybe not.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
No, it won't be.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Oj on on Anobi is out with a hamstring injury,
so he will not return for these final eight plus minutes.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
So that's okay. You Wing has come in. He has
played pretty well so far they have. He has limited
the touches for Miles Turner, so I've been pretty out.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Okay, nicely done there. As for the brunts and thing,
we've seen this, right, You've got to build the story.
You got to build a story arc like you're in Hollywood.
That's the way it works towards MVP. That's why you
Stannakopa was still fourth in balloting, which makes no sense
at all, But you know the other three ahead of
him when you talk about Yo Kitchen, Sga and Luka Donchez,
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that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
We've been building towards this and now Jalen Brunson. As
we've discussed over the last week or so, how many
times in our business do people really ever say I'm sorry,
I got this wrong. They usually just waited out till
a guy retires or has a career ending injury, and
then they never have to utter those words.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
He's done. See I told you he was fragile here.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Jalen Brunson's got a bunch of guys that have come
to the to the pulpit, that has come to the
rectory to say, all right, I'm going.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
To have my confession.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I am going to take my penance because I was
wrong about Jalen Brunson. We've seen it. But now that
that doesn't help for voting for this year, that's done.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
That's gone.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
The Maya culpis came after votes had to be submitted.
Unfortunately they don't include playoff runs. Maybe they should.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
By the way they give the guy like the guy
wasn't great going into the playoffs, He's in as great
as he was in the regular seat. He's at a
new level of the playoffs. He's the leading scorer in
the playoffs for all the Oh, Anthony Edwards is so great?
You still finish fifth. Jalen Brunson's the leading scorer in
the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Well, but how many highlights do you have? Okay, here
he is running over McConnelly. Yeah, that's not sexy.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
No, I know that's what it is. People don't know.
I want. I want the sexy high lights. I want.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Why am I not Network TV star in prime time
because I don't look quite the part.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
I'm a fire plug.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, but I'm walt damned handsome and I yell better
than any of these clients.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
But here I am.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
You can't go to rehearsals and tryouts wearing jaunty fedoras
and purple shorts. They're not gonna I keep telling you
not to do that. They're not gonna take you. Seriously,
go no, but this is who I am. And you
pick a special feather out for the cap, you're gonna
wear them. Sometimes you match the purple hat to your shorts.
I'm like, they're not gonna hire you if you like that,
And you say no, I'm still gonna do it.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Kind of asked a wardrobe once they hire me. Until then,
it's pure harm.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Until where whatever I want?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Where would I want to?
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You realize this is it? This is a tryout, right, and.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Hey, I'm wearing Fred Sandford. Sure, you guys know that
none of this matters, right, none of this matters?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
No, hang on, hang on? Do you know frostburg By
Now he's had this, he's had this punchline and this
holster for the entire day. But I will help you.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I was waiting for something good, just saying the Dodger
ones on the Dodgers one.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I'm like, yeah, it's Wednesday, Okay, okay, let's go.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Hang on, okay, justin, why does none of this matter.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Because the Dodgers won? What are you deaf that I
hit the ball again the air?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You're done with it? Tom Brady got roasted because that
was your line the other day. There was always something.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Oh I'm way past that.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Okay, you're past Okay.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
We can bring that back again. I mean that played.
I'd rather bring back a pace or win.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Uh well, look, the NBA would like to because then
it would be a series. If not, it's two nothing
knicks and that's it.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
You know, he's not playing in this game the rest
of the work.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Who's not. Yeah, no, Look, it's like every couple of
games we lose somebody. Eventually, the Knicks are gonna finish
his playoff with four guys on the court, and they're
gonna say, TIBs, there's guys on the roster you could
put in. No, no, no, I don't trust anybody. I'm
gonna play with these four. Yeah, but TIBs are not done.
Doesn't matter. We're gonna go with these guys, I.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Mean the fifth Look, look.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
That's why I always look Anunobe, who's who had a
great game, And look, he's in line for a huge
payday the difference he brought to the Knicks when he
came there. But look he's out with a sore left hamstring.
Who knows what his availability is gonna be for the
rest of the playoffs. You don't even know. But like,
if it to be serious about this with with the Knicks,
I sit here and go, you know what, this is
a magic carpet ride, right, I mean, they have a
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phenomenal team and Jalen Brunson is otherworldly. But eventually, you know,
playing these guys, and now these guys are gonna have
to play all forty eight minutes of the next game
because Anonoby may not play. I mean, event it's gonna
run out. If I'm the Celtics, I'm going this is unbelievable.
We don't have to worry about the Bucks because Giannis
was hurt and didn't play. After it, We're rolling through
(08:09):
the playoffs. The Knicks are losing guys every five seconds.
We know we can beat the crap out of the Pacers. Okay,
the Celtics like, pinch me, this isn't this isn't real.
We're rolling through the play We're gonna walz into the
NBA finals. This is unbelievable. I mean, look, that's that's
how it should go. Because for the Knicks, look, it's
a magic carpet rde do. I hope they have enough
(08:30):
for Indiana? Of course I do, right, because this is
a series that could go either way. Both teams are
pretty even, especially with the Knicks not being deep, so
I get it. But when it gets to the conference finals, boy,
I'm telling you, man like that, the Knicks are playing
with house money at that point, because it's okay, everybody
expects Botson to win. They're the better team, and the
Knicks are playing with an iron five. Who knows they're
(08:51):
down to four by the next time.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I have no idea well out there, Yeah, but that
Rimes checked in.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, do you not see that? And you know, and
you know the thing is starting with foreign having Hartenstein
come off the bench. Still it's really.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Right there.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
But since we have begun speaking, the Knicks have taken
a five point lead over the Pacers. Jalen Brunson with
a bucket and a three. It looks like he is
taking his matchup with TJ McConnell person.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yea. They have off each other a couple of times
and he got a little testy.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He had one of those buckets a couple of minutes ago,
and and one where he came down the floor. McConnell
was in his hip pocket. McConnell was trying to get
physical with him. But it's nothing more than banging up
and down the floor. It's not like there was found,
but it was banging up and down the floor. And
you can tell. And Brunson goes in for the layup
and and he flexes after which he doesn't do a
lot of and you could tell right there it's like, Okay, TJ.
(09:44):
McConnell's walking around like he owns Madison Square Garden, Like
suddenly he's great. Instead of a guy that, hey, look
I'm really motivated here, like I play in high school
and coach just told me I'm going to start, So
I'm giving you everything I have. Uh So I get
that that that part of it, but you could just
tell it's a little bit personal. I'm not saying it
woke brunts it up, but playing at the level he's
at hitting some of these shots is just is just unbelievable. Right,
(10:06):
And it's a two point lead for the Knicks right
now with five and a half k Well, I mean,
look the way that everybody still tries to stop him,
and he's still shorter than everybody on the court. He
weighs less than everybody on the court, and he still
scores points. The way he does strategy, just think about it.
Just just think about it, Manda, strategy is phenomenal. I'll
let him score. So we'll have more on this game
(10:27):
coming up again. Two point lead by the Knicks with
five and a half left to go. Still a lot
of time left here. But as Mike mentioned, MVP vote
comes in and Nicola Jokic once again wins the MVP
in the NBA. It's his third overall MVP. He wins
it over Shi Gildes Alexander who finishes second, and Luca
don Si who finishes third, Jalen Brunson finishing fifth. And
(10:50):
when I see Jokic win, you know, I think of Mike,
this is weird. But when I see Jokic win and
I go okay. Obviously everybody voting understands the genies of
Nicole Jokic and how well he plays and some of
the stuff he does is just it's amazing. It's almost
like he's a bigger Jalen Brunson, where boy, the guy
just runs around and kind of doesn't play really fast
and still makes some unbelievable plays. What I think of
(11:12):
here is that, Wow, how did Shaquille O'Neil not have
at least three four MVPs? He was more dominant than
Jokic was when he played. Did he have Jokica's skill set? No,
he didn't. And I'm not saying that they're the same
kind of player, but there was nobody who was more
valuable in his heyday with the magic with the Lakers
than Shaquille O'Neil an. He won one and I'm like, really,
(11:34):
and even the year where he should have waltzed away
with it unanimously. Fred Hickman votes for Alan Ivers since right,
So it wasn't a unanimous MVP like Shakshak easily should
have come away with three or four MVPs, but the
bias against him, there are a lot of people who
didn't like him, didn't take the game seriously. Just he's
very polarizing as a star. Didn't make his free throws,
didn't really expand his game, so I could see where
(11:56):
he was polarizing. But when I see jokch Win, I
feel like it's a fade of I'm just gonna give
the guy the MVP every year, no matter what he does,
no matter where the Nuggets finished, no matter what, as
long as his numbers are the same, he winds up
winning the MVP. And I feel like Shack should have
had at least three, at least three, maybe four MVPs
in his heyday. Wally was playing in the nineties in
early two thousand.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, that's the unfortunate part of it, right, you get
to that we're tired of you. And last year there
was the backlash led by Kendrick Perkins and others saying
well screw this and called people out and tried to
make it a race thing and whatever else, and look
and Beade had a hell of a year. So he
ends up walking away with the award. So I wonder
how much of Yo gets winning this year, as people go, well,
(12:38):
we kind of screwed the guy last year. They didn't
do anything different, so let's make that one right. And
then now you know, we clap our hands and all
bets are off, and we see what happens going forward,
whether it's your guy brunts and the emergence of Victor Wembin,
Yama Edwards, whoever it is from there, Ian, because you
go back in time, I mean go back to Jordan.
(12:59):
All of a sudden, there was al lock of years
he didn't win it and was down in the voting
a bit like he's already won a couple, he's winning titles.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
He doesn't need an MVP Award.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Move on.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
We we certainly saw that right, because you had he
won back to back years. Then you go Barkley, Elijah
On Robinson, Okay, Jordan out of basketball. Jordan comes back,
and then Malone a couple of times. Then you're one
year for Shaquille O'Neal, and then I had.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
No choice but to give it to him that year, well,
we have felt it to him this.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Year, but you had a couple of years where you know,
you split the vote between he and Kobe, So that's
part of it. And then Tim Duncan wasn't flashy, but
you'll the the big fundamental won people over for MVP Awards.
That's the one I was. I'm always shocked at Wait
he won back to back. He didn't do anything at
a highlight reel that what anybody would have seen come
(13:53):
on except for the obvious I call bank jokes. Then
you get into the Steve Nash era and everything else.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
But but everybody liked Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan didn't go
off and do movies in the off season. So where
critics say, oh, if he was about basketball, he'd be
doing it, he'd be doing more. He wouldn't be doing movies,
wouldn't be doing you know, Shazam or whatever it was, Kauzam. Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I get you alone.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I disagree with it, but I get it. And it's
a much different landscape, uh than than it was now.
But Duncan was someone that everybody why because Jim Duncan
didn't do anything well.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
Essentially the same guy as we've talked about.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Right, Other than loving harness racing and his horses and
his family, going to clubs and being the seven footer
uh towering over everybody else and then now dressing up
his groove, there ain't a whole lot.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think the only thing k does is he tells
his brothers, Okay, nothing too out of control.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Okay, I can fight a little bit, don't do.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Nothing, do it all right? I watch what happens to Mahomes,
all right, I don't I don't need that. I want
something else. I don't need that exit out about a
Fresca exit swollen to on the Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Carbett. Seriesly, it should be three
or four MVPs for Shaquille O'Neil. Unbelievable. Right now, there
are three and a half minutes left to go in
(15:10):
the fourth quarter, and the Knicks I feel like I
need to talk like Marv Albert and the next lead.
The Pacers now one seventeen to one ten. Jalen Brunt's hit,
a couple of shots, a couple of offensive rebounds by
de Vincenzo Preciosa. Chua is scoring right now. So it
is a seven point lead for New York. Still a
lot of time left here, three and a half to
(15:31):
go in the fourth quarter. Coming up next, we'll have
more in this game. Obviously. It is the gex why
there's only one game tonight, because how do you top
the next? I mean, you just can't. But we have
other big stories out of the NBA coming up next,
including what player suddenly has the most at stake in
the NBA playoffs. That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
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Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Minute and a half left to go,
the Knicks lead the Pacers one twenty four to one eighteen.
The Pacers trying to deny the basketball to Jingalen Brunson.
They're able to get it across half court. Dante deven
Ncenzo hits a huge three to give the Nicks a lead.
(17:03):
But now the Pacers use a little bit of strategy
to kind of get back in the game. Here a
little bit. Uh, you saw a world class flop by
Halliburton that got them to the free throw line.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
No, no, forearms shivered him in.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
The bad stop.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Come on, don't go back and go back and watch it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And Nick, don't just be opposite me just because you
feel like it, because you sound foolish. He fell down, Yes,
he put his arm up, he fell down. It was
a world class flop. I'm not saying it wasn't a
great play. It was a great play because it put
him on the free throw line. One twenty four to
one eighteen. Now they're just there's a discrepancy at half court.
The referees look like they called a double dribble on
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Isaiah Hartenstein. As the Knicks are trying to get the
ball across half court. Rick Carlisle is screaming at the
official because it looks like they brought the call back.
Now I'm watching the replay and it looks like he's
dribbling again. I don't know what the call. It looked
like it was double dribbled. He tried to make that
and tried to make that sign, but then they look
and said it wasn't. Carlisle is upset, but it's still
(18:03):
a six point lead for the Knicks with a minute
ten left to go. I mean, every time the Knicks
have the ball, I'm outside my mind because I'm like,
oh my god, they don't have it. Jalen Brunson. Is
he gonna be able to keep hitting shots like this?
Is he gonna keep making it? Can they keep getting
offensive rebounds like they do? And they have and they
keep getting them, and they keep holding onto the ball
and they keep possession. And I'm just saying to myself,
(18:25):
the Pacers have to be saying, why don't you just die?
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Whys hog stick legs like the Energizer bunny.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
I mean, how how can you Why can't you just die?
They're gonna keep possession on this play because it's off
the Pacers out of bound. Like it's like, we're doing
everything we can. You're losing players. Jalen Brunston had to
sit out an entire quarter. Why won't you die? We
keep doing everything there, this has to do it. No,
the Knicks keep sitting up like Michael Myers at the
(18:56):
end of Halloween. It just keeps happening. It's I mean it.
This is such a fun series to watch. It's such
a fun team. And I'll tell you, man, you can
cancel the rest of the players. Just keep giving me
Knicks Pacers games. I don't think anybody else in the
NBA would disagree. I think they would sign up for
like fifteen of these games because they're just so much fun.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You just included the Pacers in that because it's fun,
because the team the next can beat Mike.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Look, Look, it's it's look, it's it's a case of look,
the Pacers are fun. Reggie Miller's in the house, the
Boogeyman is there. Nicks Pacers brings everybody back to the nineties. Everybody,
at least in their forties who watch basketball remembers this
and it was fun and I was younger and thinner,
and I could run all day and I could eat
whatever I wanted to and not gain any weight. No,
(19:41):
it's a big throwback, man, this is what it is.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You know who's loving this game? Who's more than the Knicks?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
The so just well, yeah, listen, we talked about that.
The Celtics have to be saying, all right, if we
don't get to the finals and win this year, we're
never gonna do it a right. Suddenly there's a ton
of pressure on the Celti instead of hey, we're the
best team. We should prove ourselves and win. It's dude,
the door is wide open, not just one door. It's
French doors. French doors that open up to a backyard
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filled with a pool and trees and some kind of
there's cricket bats everywhere and you can play lawn bowling.
This isn't the French doors wide open for the Celtics
to get to the finals and win. Because in the
West you can tell for some of these teams. Look,
Minnesota and Oklahoma City is going to be a rock
fight for seven games. If they wind up playing you
see the energy that's expended by some of these squads
(20:33):
getting through and the Celtics. I don't know that any
of them have taken a shower in the last two weeks.
I know they've had to go through and I still
smell pretty good. Didn't you sweat? Hw We won that
game one thirteen to seventy two. Oh, you're right, I
really I don't think any of them have bathed because
they haven't had to, because I only bathe and I'm dirty,
and no, I still smell pretty good. All the pressure
in the world is on the Celtics because they should
(20:53):
get there and they should win, like this is their year.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Suddenly, Well that's the thing, though, it's been there for
a while, right because ran away with the Eastern Conference,
and it becomes the like the Dodgers every year, we
do the same thing, right, all right, this is great
in May, and we enjoy the moments, right, you enjoy
the wins, the Otani home runs and whatever else. It's
all great. Doesn't matter till you get October because that's
(21:16):
what you're playing for. With the Celtics, after last year,
coming into the season, it was the should they break
them up? Should Missoula have been fired. All of that
was coming off of that playoff run. So as you
get into these rounds and you're watching the attrition and
the knicks falling one by one and whether they're available
(21:37):
or not, and these guys killing themselves for forty eight
minutes then and with Cleveland made Jared Allen, is he
ever going to be cleared to play?
Speaker 4 (21:45):
I don't know this.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I mean, that's a guy that was what sixteen and
eleven or something like that that isn't there. You don't
have a force in the middle. So yeah, you're walking
through even with porzingis sidelined. The expectation is that it
it's you're at least in the finals and then whatever
comes from there. But yeah, certainly for the Celtics, it's
(22:07):
been that for a long time. As soon as Doc
Rivers got hired and the Bucks started to fall off.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
See what I did there?
Speaker 1 (22:14):
I see, I see what you did.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Im off the hook there, But.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
It's it's it's not Doc's fault, right, remember, no matter what,
it is not Doc's fault.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
And gets hurt, Lillard gets hurt, all of that stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
But you know, uh, and now we have just seen
a big I wouldn't say a reversal of fortune because
the Knicks are now up one twenty seven, one point
eighteen with thirty three seconds left. We have seen Brunson
make a floater for an eight point lead, and now
he is shooting technicals because Rick Carlisle has just been ejected.
(22:45):
Rick Carlisle got ejected. He was upset over the officials
taking back the double dribble call, which still he was
harping on. He's on the court and he's clapping in
the official's face. Now at this point, look, the Knicks
are up by seven and there's thirty five seconds left
to go, but he's sitting there clapping in the officials face.
And I don't care what you do when you when
(23:06):
you clap in the officials face, you're gonna get ejected.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
That's what you've had enough.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Now, his guys had actually hit some free throws earlier
in the quarter, it might have been a little different game.
They missed their first five in the fourth quarter. But
I think the point he was trying to make was,
how come we can review this in real time, but
I can't get this kickball thing overturned? Yeah, I mean,
let's be consistent here. Fellas, that's all we're asking for.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You know what, what do I say the Pacers? Look,
they focused too much on that after the first game,
and now they're going to focus on the officiating again,
because I'm sure they're going to sit back and say, oh,
you know, if that, if that was called a double dribble,
which I still don't know what Rick Carlile was yelling.
I'm sure we'll figure it out and in the break
and we see more things happen. But I'm like, real,
that's you saying if you got that call, you don't
(23:51):
won the game. I mean, they really just just like,
if you got the call in game one, you would
have won. If you had gotten the kickball, you would
have won. But I'm sure they're going to find a
way to figure out a way to say that.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I think he's just really upset that his his acting
career has gone in the in the tank, that is true.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
He was really good in The Truman Show. Yeah, yeah,
I watched that a little bit earlier here.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
I mean, he got a good run he did.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
I mean, well, you had three hundred million dollar movies
in nineteen ninety four. In the Mask, you know, Josh
Hart has just leaned over to talk to Reggie Miller
with twenty seconds left in the game and there's a
timeout on the floor. I have no idea what he said.
Devincenzo was shooting free throws. Uh, but he leaned over
to six something to Reggie Miller. Again. We'll find out
(24:36):
after the game, but I'll tell you this has been
some kind of last fourth quarter by the run by
the Knicks here because they're gonna win this game and
they're gonna be up two games to none, and the
Pacers are gonna walk away going what the hell else
do we have to do? Right? Like, that's it. They're
not fouling. The countdown is going on, Nicks are going
up to zip. And before we get into any more analysis,
(24:57):
I just want to say, go New York, Go New York, Go,
go New York, New York. Coat, Go New York, Go
New York. Coat. One thirty one twenty one is the
final look at the next Okay, now we can get
back to basketball analysis of this game.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You feel good. You feel good.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
I feel a wonderful That's what's.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Because don't want to I don't want to overwhelm you,
because this is going to be three and a half
hours of Go New York, goat New York, Goat, Go
to York, go to you.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
We're not on in New York. Let's talk about other things.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm pretty sure we are pretty sure you are city.
I'm pretty sure on Channel Lady three serious ExM, we're
on across the company. Of course you should check we're on,
buddy check it. See where we're on.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
On Channel Lady three serious excent.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
We'll just say you know that you don't want to
give a shout out, you know, because we need that
local affiliate as well.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yeah. No, and just and just trying to look at
all the things that are trending on Twitter. At the
top Jalen Brunson, The Knicks are at the top than
their survivors. DJ McConnell, Rick, Carlyle Shack. I think maybe
we got Shack trending with our conversation a few minutes ago.
So hey, Congrad, check you out. Well.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
He also had that conversation with Jokic, saying I voted
and Shae should have been MVP.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
No offense, no offense, But.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I just want to say I didn't vote for him.
But look, this is now a two games to none
lead for the Knicks, and if you are the pacer,
let's let's think about this in the pacer seconds. We
have a lot to get to with Brunson and the
Knicks and what they're doing. Who knows, If I don't
know he's even gonna be able to play. I don't
even know. But if you're if you're the pace, you're saying,
what do we have to do? You're upset at the
(26:32):
refs speak for whatever the call you wanted on on Hartenstein, right,
but you're like, what do we have to do? Because
this was a game where we came out and we
did again what we wanted to do, especially since we
got a big game from Halliburton. What did he say
from him early? Right, Well, at least he's still thirty
four to nine. He was huge early. What did I
(26:54):
tell you what's gonna happen? He was going to be
out early? And I told you if if the Pacers
get out to like a ten to twelve to two lead,
I'll be worried. But if it's a game early, then
I'm then I'm not gonna be that concerned because this
is where the Pacers have to come out and if
they're mad, and they throw the hammer down to the
Knicks early and make them play from behind, make them
(27:14):
expend a lot of energy, and they didn't, and the
Knicks hung with them. But if you're the Pacers, you're saying, okay,
at halftime, we had everything going the way we wanted, right,
we had Halliburton cooking, we had our bench was going crazy,
Obi topping back in New York, was hitting threes. Right.
TJ McConnell finished with ten and twelve assists, and he's
strutting around like he's Alan iverson right, like, yeah, this
(27:35):
is how good I am. Dude, you'r TJ McConnell. Take
it easy. You had everything going, You had everything you needed.
And again in another game where you did what you wanted.
You made Jalen Brunson work as hard as he could,
You made the Knicks make as many shots as they could.
You made the Knicks have to play with five guys,
and then Andrew Noby's out for for most of the
second half. You did everything you needed and still you're
(27:57):
going home down.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Do you know what you forgot to do going home?
You forgot to play defense. You you forgot to play defense.
The Nick shot fifty seven percent from the field fifty
seven percent. I'm the kind of seven Yeah exactly, I'm
now in the the Josh Hart, the the love hate
that America will have with him, like you love how
hard he works. He chirps an awful lot after every rebound. Yeah,
(28:21):
well he gets old after a while. Yeahound can get
him get back up the court. I can see that.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
But still playing forty eight minutes and going to maybe
told Reggie Miller, Hey, Reggie, go blake yourself. Well that's
exactly what everywhere.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
I'm glad that Spike Lee gave you those frame newspapers.
I'm glad you had your fun talking about coming back
and being this agitator and being on the call. Because
he wasn't originally assigned to this series, but they added
him for special effect.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Mike Breen off the him for ratings because nobody's watching this.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Are you kidding? Come on, come on, man, you can't.
This is the only series anybody cares about? This is it?
That's why millions?
Speaker 4 (29:00):
What kind of poll did you take?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
What dude, what games are you gonna put on the
air better than this? Hey, let's put three other games
that are thirty point blowouts on the air, and people
are gonna watch the whole game.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
You no one's gonna watch thirty point blowouts are gonna
be when you play the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
No one's gonna watch the Nuggets unless you're gonna say, baby,
let's see what Jamal Murray throws on the court today.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
How much for Anonoby's hamstring?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Okay, dude, it doesn't matter. You know he's gonna be
out for the playoffs. Come on, man, this is how
it works for the Knicks. Is you know he's gonna
be out?
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Come on, Why can't I have you had to break
them them?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
I'll tell you coming up next. I don't know how
we're gonna bleep this, but we're gonna find a way.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
We're not We're we're get fired.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
We'll just get that. But there's some audio coming from
the end of this Knicks Pacers gave that is just
absolutely outstanding plus plus. As great as things are right now,
I can see a real dark side for them being serious,
I can see a real dark side for the Knicks
that's coming up right now. We have a huge night
to break down here, NBA and more, keep it right here,
(30:05):
Jason and Mike.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Fox be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Jason Smith's Show with My best Friend Mike Harmon Live
from the tirec dot Com Studios, where another thriller goes
to the Knicks at Madison Square Garden one to one
twenty one. The Knicks beat Indiana take a two games
non lead into Friday's Game three. Rick Carlisle's postgame I'm
sure will be insane, of course, gets thrown out in
(30:37):
the final minute of the game, which we'll get to
that story coming up in a few minutes. But look,
this is the Knicks winning this game, and in the
final thirty seconds it was just Bedlin at Madison Square Garden.
So much so that we're trying to get this edited
because we can't. We can't wait too clean. Yeah, it
is because you can hear Nick fans channing. Is one,
(31:00):
because Reggie Miller was doing the game for TNT. Nick
fans are screaming, blank, you Reggie, blank, you Reggie. Imagine
twenty thousand people screaming blank, you Reggie.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
This is Jason. There's only two ways we can go
about this. Audio.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Okay, we can either play it and get fired or.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Well, I mean you could get fired. I'm good because
I was also thinking. Josh Hart walked over to make
sure he understood what they were chanting.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
No, you understand what they're saying. So it's a package deal.
We're all gone, yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yeah, listen, Reggie. They're not saying lou.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Yeah. And he was very explicit about it, you know.
But we do welcome in all our friends, fans, and
family in listening in the Greater New York area on
the iHeartRadio app because you know that works everywhere in
the glob Now.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Look, because the Carlisle stuff is just so crazy, which
we'll get to because he's upset over another call at
the end. Again, in twenty years, the Pacers will be saying,
if we got that kickball call and get out against
the Knicks, we don't want the NBA to cut again.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
In terms of the call itself, he's not wrong, but
you can't fix aing on it.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Man.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
You gotta still coach him up.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
He look, here's that You want to look at a
dark side, right, because it's been all go New York, Go,
New York, Go for the last four and I get that,
and there's gonna be a lot more of it. But
here are the Knicks up to zip right, going into
game three, even though the winners of the if you
win the first two games, you win the series eighty
percent of the time. Right, the Knicks are going into
game three not knowing the status of Ogianooby, who left
(32:29):
the game today with a with a hamstring strain and
who knows when he's gonna be able to play again.
Is a guy that in three quarters and twenty eight
minutes had twenty eight points. He's one of the Iron five.
Jalen Brunson, as you said after the game, are you
gonna be okay for Game three? He says, yeah, I
don't know. Could I see the Knicks sacrificing game three
saying you know what we're gonna do, Shake Milton's gonna play,
(32:52):
and Alec Burks is gonna play, and Bernard King is
gonna play, and Charlie Ward is gonna play, and whatever
happens in game three happens in game three, and we
hope to get everybody back for game four. I can
completely see that, right. My point is this is that
even though this is too's it, if I'm being completely honest.
Do I say to myself this series feels over? I don't. No,
(33:14):
I don't, because I can see the Pacers going home.
They're like a hornet's nest right now. I can see
them coming back to New York going Okay, Pacers protected
home court. It's a three game series, Knicks have home
court advantage. I'm being honest with you. Is all the
go to you? Does this series feel like it's over?
Or does it feel like the Pacers still have whatever
reserves they have left in the tank and they're gonna
press the NOSS button like in Fast the Theories to
(33:37):
get a little bit more going. No, this series is
not over. I feel like there's still a lot left
to go from the Pacers because I could see the
Pacers taking control because of the Knicks health. This is
not over.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah, your guys are dropping like flies.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
And even if Bronson's there, I mean we've been talking
about the many a weary minute and all the hits.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I mean that all adds up.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
It's body blow after body blow, which gets us into
that whole NBA versus NHL or NFL conversation that's been
going on that started yesterday. But for the Pacers. You
got forty six points off your bench on the road, right.
What it's the old adage that, hey, these guys are
more comfortable and play better at home. So can they
(34:18):
be even better and more integrated to what's going on?
Can you actually get something offensively from Turner? He was
terrible again. And Haliburton had a great game, you know,
in the in the first half. He was huge second
half in particularly in the fourth quarter. Didn't see the
ball a ton, They missed a ton of free throws,
and they gave up once again. I got to point
(34:39):
out fifty shooting from the fieldsill. Everything else doesn't matter.
You're not playing defense. They're getting wide open looks.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Well, the Knicks are moving the ball really well, because
the reason they're getting wide up and looks is because
the Knicks have figured out, Okay, when Brunson brings it
across half court and the Pacers try to double him,
he makes the pass out Heart or Devincenzo comes out
to get the ball, and now suddenly it's four on
three and the Knicks move the ball quickly. That's the
whole thing. They don't get out of it and say, okay,
(35:10):
let's reset back to Brunson. No, the Knicks are decisive.
And that's the biggest thing is that when Brunson passes
out of that double team, the Knicks are decisive, and
it's Devincenzo to heart for a three, or heart to
Devincenzo for a three, or a dribble in and you
draw the defender in and it's a pass to Hartenstein
for a dunk or a layup. That's the key to
be to be honest, is that the Knicks get out
of that double team and are decisive. So suddenly the
(35:33):
we're gonna try to stop Jalen Brunson from from attacking
with the ball. The Knicks have figured it out over
the last couple of games because they closed down the
stretch here they escaped in game one. They closed down
the stretch here. They have figured out that part of
the pacers.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Oh, you get the physicality, you know, you see how
much energy you're still getting down the stretch. No, An
Andobi and we'll keep an eye on what his status is.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Gone.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah, your Knicks fatalism and coming over the top says
you won't see him again. But you just see Hartenstein
like there's no quit like any ball to the rexs like,
all right, I'm gonna force you to call the goaltend,
like we're not conceding anything down low, still diving on
the floor for loose balls, all of that. It's easy
to like and certainly to where they're closing it out
(36:21):
with that extra energy, because, as you say, one team's
certainly not quitting, and I'm certainly not calling the Pacers
quitters either, but you know, the resiliency, plus the home crowd,
everything else trying to get into your paces has not
been there for the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Exit out About a Fresco exit swollen don The Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Okay, coming
up next, the chant at MSG end. What Josh Hart
said to Retchie Miller right before the game was over
while Devincenza was shooting free throws. I don't know which
one of theirs. I must listen Fox
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