August 19, 2025 • 41 mins
There's no bigger wildcard in the entire NFL than the Bengals. Their offense could be freaking elite, Burrow could throw 45 TD & they go 13-4. Or the 'D is really bad and they struggle out of the gate & go 5-12.
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buying should be. This is how we should be starting
Monday nights in the middle of a football game. We're
ready where another couple of weeks NFL season starts, zero
week in college football, we should be starting middle of
the night tonight. It's the Bengals with a lead over
the Washington Commanders. I'm kind of feeling like, okay, summer
is ending.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We're here just jump into mid season form. Traffic was
a little fall like tonight, where it took that extra
fifteen to twenty minutes to get in with people doing
some knuckleheaded things in the final miles before exiting off
to the Fox Sports radio studios. We got that school
starts on Wednesday here for a lot of the districts
in southern California. So the last throws of summer silliness,
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as it were, gatherings for movie nights of things that
were made thirty five years ago. Let's go to the movies.
Let's watch stuff that came out many, many years. Well,
it's the thing now now, y'all. Look, damn, I can't
get anything green lit.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
But what can we do. Let's remake a movie from
forty years ago.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Not a bad do it, not a bad thing?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Telling you man, anything that was popular in the right
now Hollywood is going through was what was even popular
for a nanosecond back in the.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Nineties doing it. We're relaunching it now. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Does Hanson want to do more concerts? Can we get
them gone? Let's get that. Let's get the crash test dummies,
let's put them on tour. Whatever we have, whatever's the night.
I'd be pretty good unearth. Your Your job is to
go through the entire decade of the nineties and find
something that works, and you come to me with some
sort of spreadsheet proposal and we'll green light it. I
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got one hundred million dollars behind any idea from the nineties.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Everybody, here's your homework assignment. Before we meet tomorrow at
nine am. You're gonna go through whatever boxes are in
your closet, are out in your garage. You're gonna find
whatever toys you have, and you're gonna bring them in.
We're gonna figure out whether the IP is available to
us cheaply because many people are still holding on to
those toys that you love so dearly. And if we
can make a movie, we will.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Now here we are right now again, the middle of
Monday night preseason Bengals lead the Commanders twenty eight seventeen.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Midway through the fan quarter.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
If Hendrick ah, yeah, well, I think I think, uh,
judging by the defensive performance in the first half, I
wasn't being serious. I think he's a guy going, well,
now you have to pay me whatever I want.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
You have to pay whatever I want. One hundred million
dollars yet, gotta give it to me. Gotta give it
to me. You have to, you have no choice.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And if I'm the Bengals, I'm still laughing, going, Yeah, well,
our defense sucked with you last year.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
It ain't gonna be any worse here.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
And we got a guy that's willing to hit Joe
Burrow in practice.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
That's how hungry he is to be on the field.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Well, that that's the thing, right.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Obviously, the Commanders make it to the NFC Championship Game
last year, and we're expecting big things from them and
Jayden Daniels this year. But I will tell you this,
there is no bigger wild card wild card. There is
no bigger wild card in the NFL than the Bengals,
no bigger Well like you watched look Burrow so far
in this preseason. What first three drives? Three touchdowns? Great
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five three touchdowns?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
That dumb ass scramble play though, that's where every person
in the He was trying.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
To get his cardio win because he doesn't play a lot,
so he wanted to just run around a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I got my steps in for two.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't want to see him doing that week five,
let alone in a preseason game where he's doing the
Chris Berman whoop trying to avoid.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Would be tacklers.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
This is a Bengals team that their offense could go
absolutely bananas. Right, you have a huge big three or
really big four, Chase Brown set to take on the
load this year. They go forward on fourth and one
in the first have big decision, They push it forward.
Joe Burrow could throw forty five touchdowns and for nearly
five thousand yards, and the Bengals could go thirteen and four. Right,
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and the offense can be that good. The defense could
be terrible because it doesn't look good at all. Burrow
could get dinged up, and all of a sudden, the
Bengals are looking at five and twelve like there have
been no bigger wild card where hey, this team can
have a tremendous year and all of a sudden, we remember,
look how good they were three years ago. Remember they
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got it to the super Bowl. They beat the Chiefs.
Remember Burrow ahead and all that fun stuff. Or it
could be yeah, look at the Bengals, they made it
that super Bowl. I've never getting back again. That was
just lucky. They could go thirteen and four. They could
go five and twelve. This is there is no bigger
wildcard than the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I wonder how many of those people that I met
leaving Sofi Stadium after that Super Bowl are looking around going,
I really wish I could punch that guy in the
face right now, predicting that I'd go through seasons of
misery and that it wouldn't be quite so easy to
go back to the Super Bowl. But you look at
a squad offensively, and this one's kind of fun because
Browning has two touchdown passes in this one, two of
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them the Mitchell Tinsley Where did Mitchell Tinsley play his
last two seasons of football the Washington Commanders, And now
he's doing spinning catches in one of the hand zone,
leaping over a defender and toe tapping in the back.
Like with everything going on with Terry McLaurin, they might
they might need an extra receiver in that room. But
looking at what the Bengals have been doing, it's the
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same as it ever was. There's guys that're not gonna pay.
And for Joe Burrow to say, hey, I want to
be in camp, we need to start fast, that's all
finding good. You know what the biggest act he could
have done was let's go look at my contract. Let's
see how we spread money, and we figure out if
we think Trey Hendrickson is this big a deal for us?
Because the stats are there, right, his individual performance have
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been there. But I go back to last year, that
defense was still terrible if you look at it on
paper right now, even though they add in another pass
Rusher and Stewart, are they any better? No, they're not
any better. And that offensive line isn't good either. No,
So have you really progressed? The only thing you're hoping
is that Aaron Rodgers shows every bit of his forty
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plus years because and that Cleveland doesn't jump up and
bite you, you know, with one of those surprise. Hey,
they have to win a game somewhere on the schedule.
Maybe they don't, but we'll get to them in short order.
And then obviously you're chasing Baltimore. You're looking at a
squad and I think you're right, there's they can put
up a lot of points and losing spectacular fashion a
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year ago. Absolutely, this could be This could be Lady
or the Tiger. It could the Bengals. They could be amazing,
They could be terrible. This this is the reality for
the Bengals. Yeah, and I don't have lou Anamo to
get after. I mean even Scapegoat because they gave him
a real.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Building.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Not everybody is the Bears in the preseason, Jayson, everybody's
the Bears.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Well, we'll get to the Bear boy. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
You know, it's bad when you lose to the Bears
like it's thirty eight nothing in the head. And and
Sean McDermot says, hey, guys, we we we gotta we
gotta get things together here a little bit.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Okay, we get it.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But look the other big news of the day, right
staying in the AFC North, our long national nightmare has
now finally ended. The Browns have named a quarterback for
Week one, and it is Joe Flacco. This is not
a surprise. Everybody else is hurt, right. Some players have
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distinguished themselves a little bit, but it doesn't matter. Kenny
Pickett still isn't really playing. Dylan Gabriel was dinged up.
Shoudor Sanders was really good week one, but then he
got dinged up and he couldn't play. This was a
very difficult, except not at all decision to say Joe
Flacco's the guy out of the gate. This is absolutely expected.
And the best part is now I am one down
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on my destriction of the five, the order of the
five quarterbacks, and how they're gonna start for the Browns
this year.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I said, it's Flacco out of the gate number one.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
If you bet that parlay right, my parlay of and
really because the whole the big wild card is Kenny Pickett, right,
Keny Pickett's a big wildcard.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, this gave you the free space. I mean, that's
what this in the center of my guard.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If you're going, if you're going Flacco, and now that
Flacco's name the starter, you feel like you have some
time until Kenny Pickett gets in. You're still going Flacco, Picket, Sanders,
Gabriel Huntley. There's your order, there's your five guys. There's
your order. And right now you're one down. I said
Flacco to time. It's an easy one.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's a free one, right, which I mean like bingo card, Right,
you got five Rosah. So he's the guy right in
the center, he's your space. Yeah, it's like we go
to trivia's picture of his head.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
We go to trivia every Sunday, and uh, we won
this week and the trivia had the first question. They
always put on Instagram, right, they want people to follow,
so the it's a twenty question thing, so the first
one's always on Instagram. So it's kind of a freebie,
so you can if you don't know the answer, you
could look it up. They asked the first question, so
that's kind of what this is. Let's you know, it's
but it doesn't matter. Five guys, I gave you Joe
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Flacco's the one. Oh, you're one fifth of the way.
That's pretty good stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
What I should do though, is like I got a
couple of friends that were Jeopardy. Jeopardy champions one one
one day, uh, and then the husband was a five
day champion who actually went into the tournament. And wow,
pretty well, it's a pretty smart coup. Bring bring them
back in. Okay, they're only flaws. They both went to Duke.
Oh well that's okay, I do o'kay that that's fine.
That's fine as long as it was a Georgetown.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, they can carry, they can take care of everything,
and I'll do entertainment in sports.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I figured I'd bring them in to come up and
oppose you in your because it seems like you got
a bunch of slack jaws that you're playing against it.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
So you gotta bring you in some real competition.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Now here's here's the big thing, right. So okay, so
there's the obvious thing for the Browns. But I want
to say this what I'm really interested to see. Now,
how does the how does the depth chart break down
between now and the beginning of the season, right, Because
you had Dylan Gabriel play okay at times this weekend,
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but other time showing boy, he really has some has
some work to do.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Until that pick six, which, depending on who you listen to,
may or may not have been his fault.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Blame everybody except Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
But but either way, I mean, like I started seeing
all sorts of tweets that you might as well have
taken the ones that you wrote for Shador Sanders and
we've gone to the preseason and just changed out the
name look at him.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
But this is this is the big one, right, this
is the big thing.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
If Gabriel and Pickett are still ahead of Shador Sanders
when the season starts, this tells you one of two
things is happening. Either one there's a split between the
team and the front office and ownership as to who
they want playing where. Either it's because there's no rif
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if Shador Sanders stays low on the depth chart, Dylan
Gabriel stays up, even though Sanders well out played Gabriel
despite getting not many reps. If Sanders is still low
in the depth chart, you know, either a there's a
difference of opinion in between if they even want him
on the team. Maybe you know, the coaching staff wants them,
but the front office doesn't and the ownership is kind
of up in the air, or the other way around.
The front office wants them, the coaching staff doesn't. So
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there's there's a reason why he's not moving up. Or
he needs to be doing stuff off the field that
we don't know about. The needs to be part of
the of for everybody's process of a quarterback. He needs
to be doing things that we haven't seen on the field,
because so far on the field, Shadoor Sanders pretty good results,
right you're judging by what you saw in week one
in the preseason, regardless to whatever it is. If that's
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the case and he's still low on the depth chart
before you get to the beginning of the season, the brown
do the kid a favor, do yourselves a favor. Trade him,
you can sell out, you can flip them. You did
a fifth round pick, you gave him some reps. You
can turn him into a third round pick. There's gonna
be teams that are saying, hey, we really like what
we saw the way he you know, we could take
a look at that that half of football that he
played and he was really good, and we see some
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film from this year, from the preseason, and what we like.
Because it's clear that the Browns aren't invested in Shador Sanders.
And all you're gonna do then is after this year,
whatever happens, you wave don't get anything for him if
you really don't like him, and if he doesn't move
up the depth chart, you can tell they don't at
the end of the preseason, Okay, trade you still got
four quarterbacks on the roster, You still have Flacco. He'll
be taking for arch Manning. But whatever reason it is,
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whether it was we disagree whether or not we even
want him on the team where he should be playing,
or we want to teach him a lesson, his future
is not in Cleveland, so you can flip him and
you can get a draft pick back for him. You
could probably you can get higher than a fifth round
pick for Shador Sanders. Third round pick.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Ooh that might.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
But if you get a team desperate enough, a quarterback
that wants to see if they can succeed, and hey,
I can turn him.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I saw what I liked in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
There's all kinds of mad scientists quarterbacks, the quarterback coaches
that want to do that. You can upgrade for it,
and you walk away saying, well, there it is Shador Sanders.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
The experiment was there.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
We spent a fifth route pick on him, we got
back a fourth and a sixth, or we got back
and forth, we got back a third, whatever it is.
We got back a third and gave back a forth.
We moved up. We got a potential starting player. Okay,
done and done because if he doesn't move to the
depth truck, you know that's what's going on.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well, but part of it is legitimately, you got what
nine series and he wasn't a star on all of them.
Made a couple of big throws, no question about it.
But you know it's it's always the which side of
the preseason. Are we going to where it's got to
be everything is the greatest thing? Like today in Chicago,
Caleb Williams walks on water, he misses the side of
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a net in a speed drill where he just feigns
that he's mad, and all of a sudden he's the
worst guy in the world. So it's that Shador Sanders
same thing. A couple of couple of drives. Even after
a draft process where thirty two teams passed on him
in four rounds, including supplemental picks, et cetera, before you
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get to the fifth round, there's still a backstory to
all of this. There's still a real and even in
camp if he's not elevating, there's still there's still, you know,
more to be said to this. Kenny Pickett may not
be with this team when it's all said and done.
If he were healthy, he might have been spun off
already or might be close to being there. But for
all of the I'm not deifying Shador Sanders off a
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couple of touchdown throws in somebody else. I don't love him,
I don't hate him, but I don't think you saw
enough to where suddenly you're spinning him back into a
third round pick.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh if you third and you give me back a fourth. Yeah, no,
I could see that easily. That everybody's so quarterback hungry,
and people's quarterback situations don't turn out the way they will.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
That's the thing though, Like coming into the draft, if
you loved him, you had plenty of opportunities to.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Go bite the apple.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Then jets might give a first round pick for after
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Speaker 4 (17:03):
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
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Speaker 7 (17:44):
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Speaker 5 (17:51):
Line and the storm there was.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Commanders excited. I'm ready for the season. We almost made
it to the super Bowl last year of the rookie.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Now, well he took his gun even better.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
It's exciting, jacked up about it.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, anytime of guy's pinballing his way into the end zone,
something I don't necessarily want my quarterback doing in the preseason,
but I guess you gotta get those battle scars.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Look, and this is this is part of what we
saw those first couple of series by the command We
talked about the Bengals being the biggest wildcard in all
the sports, like that was the only stat that Jayden
Daniels had tonight was that fourteen yard scramble for a touchdown,
because all they did was run the ball four times
in a row directly into the end zone. I mean,
that was what the first drive was for the Bengals
defense to one.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Carry fourteen yards and the score Deebo ran for twenty yards.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You had Rodriguez had two runs, one for forty yards,
one for a yard, and then you fourteen yard touchdown.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Run. Now, that's you walk off the field and go. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
That was that was That was a big reality sandwich.
We had to eat right there.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, it's clobber in time, bang bang bang, one after
another and no Brian Roman in the middle of the Yeah.
Oh as he's potentially I'm gonna be traded away. So
it's like everybody else that might carry the ball, welcome
to it. Yeah, John Riggins, everybody? Oh sure, big day?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Uh Now, Two big quarterbacks in the news this weekend
after Week two of the preseason, and the one thing
that I've really come around to, right, Caleb Williams had
a pretty good game, albeit against Bill's backups. The Bills
had a horrible game on any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Last night.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
They lost seventy six nothing to the Bears, and every
every person the Bears put out there played well. Caleb
Williams played well, and that should have been all right?
Can we have Is it enough past that Caleb Williams sucks?
Can we can we can we cool out with Hey?
He you know he missed a net. He's no good?
Can we cool out with that story?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Now? He's the greatest of all time?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
What are you talking?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
About not the Well, look it was against the second team,
right Bill's second team defense out there, but still okay,
he was good. And then all of a sudden, Tyson
Beaging comes in for extended play.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
And he's really good.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Oh suddenly social media just rrupts on Tyson bage and
what hit me is this is that Lisz I told
you last week. Just everybody's got to calm the bleep
down about Caleb Williams. All Right, he's in his first year.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
With a new offense.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He's got the right coach who turned Jared Goff into
a good quarterback. Again, he had a lot of weapons.
He knows how to build the offense. He's got a
lot of weapons. Everybody's got to chill out with the
Caleb Williams sucks narrative. But that's what's been overwhelming since
the beginning of camp. Hey, everything's gonna be fine. It's
work in progress. It's not like I'm watching justin fields
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with the Jets going. There's a great pass, there's a
one hot pass, there's still no completions to Garrett Wilson. Now,
everything is fine, Caleb Williams, Everything is gonna be good.
I told you he's gonna have a big year, right,
thirty touchdowns, four thousand yards.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
But because no one can.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Calm down, because as you saw again after that, there
should at least have been a microsecond of all right,
Caleb Williams pretty good, A right, that's fine. No, no
one has calm after his terrific performance. And when the
narrative is, oh, but it's only the second string against
the Bills. But look how good Tyson Binge it was.
That was against the third string. Oh, it doesn't matter,
Tyson bage is great. You gotta pick a lane.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
There is zero patience for Williams year two in Chicago,
and you saw them push Justin Fields out when they
were unsure if they wanted to go forward with him.
Now now look, clearly Justin Fields wasn't quite taken to
the same extent with the number one overall pick. You're
a franchise alter in court. This is Hey, we got
a guy that we think is really good. We got
him in the first round of the draft. But this
was Caleb Williams was taken with different levels of expectation.
(21:37):
If this year doesn't go well, there is zero patience
for it, and he will get pushed out after year
two and it will be Ben Johnson, new quarterback Bill Things.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
We love Ben Johnson. It's not working. We knew Caleb
Williams dunk.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Because really, Caleb Williams is kind of on a four
year down tick, right yet, Hey, look how good he
was at Oklahoma. He transfers really good year, staysn't in
for usc for his next year. Okay, not quite as good,
but still gonna be the number one pick his rookie year.
Last year wasn't nearly as bad as people thought it was,
but it doesn't matter. The optic is Caleb Williams is
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underachieving another year here, and I can tell there's gonna
be no patience in Chicago for a year three of
Caleb Williams, and something's going to have to happen, and
it's gonna be Caleb Williams someplace else because you think
it's gonna be well, that's fine, we'll get to year
two and everything is fine. No, there's none of that.
Everybody is ready to cut bait on Williams now. And
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so if this doesn't work this year, this is Caleb
Williams someplace else to finish out his rookie contract playing.
If this year doesn't work, you can see how things
are gonna go. They're already potentially going this way.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
If he if his.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
First pass Week one is incomplete, that's it, man. You
gotta get something really safe for that first pass, something
really safe. Let him complete it from you guys, if
you have that, okay, make sure that is going. Because
will he's got there is zero patience for him in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Well, I mean it's an eat di starbaded view of
the world from what we were just talking about with
Shador Sanders, except here there's actually some gravitas to the
selection as opposed to a fifth round pick, all the trades,
all of the laughing of look what they did to
Carolina haha, and away you go. And for Caleb Williams,
he came in with a lot of scrutiny and certainly
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you know, it's a tough talent. So the expectations on
the quarterback, if you're going to invest as they did,
is that he's going to be the savior. You saw
it in brief periods when Jay Cutler was traded for
and he came in and he put up some big numbers.
And I've said it all along. You know, you look
at quarterback play. In my lifetime, there are very few
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guys that top it in that city. Justin Fields had
a chance, and even if he won some games Mitchell Trubisky,
they made the trade.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
They went bold and went after it.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Remember the forty nine ers didn't necessarily win the trade
off the guy they got in that first round. No,
it was the guy that came later in Fred Warner.
But just the idea that you've taken a couple of
swings and they haven't played out, even with a couple
of playoff appearances. Folks forget about Mitchell Trubisky, but didn't
give you that level of success. Now with Caleb Williams
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comes in, you have the book that Wickersham did and
calling out, hey, how he wanted to let no, you
ask right, if you think you can buck the system
and change things, you do. But then again, once he
got there, what did he do? He embraced the city,
showed up at everything he did. But people don't like that.
He paints his nails even before he came out and played.
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It's like I have a silver nail polish. What's he
doing again, like going into the stands like he's operating
from a deficit with a lot of folks, regardless of
what went on on the field. Right, twenty and six
touchdown to interception ratio last year all fantastic, The interceptionless
street great, but he took sixty eight sacks. Many of
them were his fault. Well, now he's actually got a
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coach who's going to hold him.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Accountable, and he's got a better offensive line.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Well, we'll see on paper.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's it's like if your bullpen is terrible in baseball
and you bring in a bunch of new guys, it's
gonna be better.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
It's gotta be better.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
It can.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
But like, you've actually got a coach who's emphasizing tough love,
and hey, get the ball out right, don't take a sack,
be smart with the football. You got the interceptionist streak
was great, but how many guys downfield did he miss
because they didn't want him pulling the trigger? Was all right,
make the safe play, keep the possession alive. It's like, no,
you need you need to take shots downfield and have
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confidence that you can do so. With Ben Johnson, you're
looking at a completely different set and and an offense
that will take time to develop.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
There's gonna be growing pains, and if the media doesn't
like it too, damn bad. As long as Johnson and
he are on the same page. And it's look, they're
over under is low. They are last in the division
in terms of winning the division. They are the long
shot behind the as yet unknown JJ McCarthy and the
the Vikings. Because last year, even if they take a
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step back, it was a.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Fourteen win team. Yeah, right, And the Packers are the Packers.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And the Lions even losing the the coordinators, including the
aforementioned Ben Johnson, roster wise, they're still better. But for
Caleb Williams, there'll be a year three. They're not They're
not gonna push eject just because the guys at the score.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
It's not the guys and it's it's the overall. It's
the overall feeling with the team and are we gonna
get better? Is year three is another year in the
locker room or act that's everywhere?
Speaker 5 (26:33):
First?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
No, But if in the locker room they're feeling good
that they're progressing and they're getting better.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Did the same thing with Justin Fields. They did the
same thing. They say, you know what, we don't know
if Justin Field is gonna be good. This wasn't Justin
Fields was terrible. Remember we had a thousand yard season rushing.
This was we don't know if Justin Fields is really
going to ever be the guy. Now, clearly they had
a chance to pick because they were picking number one overall,
so it was a little bit easier. But if it's
a bad year for Caleb Williams, it's gonna be Are
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we really think that year two it's gonna go forward.
He's with a great savant that's supposed to make things better.
And when you're with a great offensive coach who's a
great quarterbacks coach, guess what you're expected to be better.
So if this is not better, you're gonna the Bears
are gonna sit back after this year and go, Okay, yes,
there's gonna be the The cacophony of sound to get
rid of him is gonna be immense, But it's gonna
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be inside those walls.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
If we go forward with.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Caleb Williams, are we sure he's gonna get it? Or
are we just postponing the future by moving on from quarterback?
So so much faster now two years of Caleb Williams,
the second year ain't any good. Guess what, They're not
gonna be a third it's gonna be We'll find a way.
Will we can move on from him. He's still on
a rookie deal. Someone might want him. We can Hey,
it's not working for us. They found a way to
move on from Justin Fields. They will find a way
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to move on from Caleb Williams. And it's not good
because that's gonna be going forward. Do we know he's
going to be great? And if you have a three
year downturn now going back to his final year at
at USC, it's okay. Maybe he's just not quite the
guy now. Look, I don't think that's happening. I think
he's gonna be really good. He was that good. To
get him outside the pocket a little bit more, you'll
be fine, petre nails, whatever color you want to, he's
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gonna be fine. But if it doesn't like, that's really hard.
Certain certain teams, you can't just say, hey, yes, suck
it up with us one more year. We're gonna figure
it out. Even though Johnson's not going anywhere, you know
he's gonna be the guy to hopefully get a couple
more years to turn this around, But it's that personnel
you just saw him do it. It's gonna be really
hard to say, yeah, year three is gonna be better. Well,
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but the bigger thing is Ben Johnson had his choice
of wherever he wanted to go coach. He decided he
wanted to go work with this guy. And I don't
think that's just for a one off season and whatever
this becomes. I don't think it becomes the all right,
let's let's go bring in the new guy. Everybody wants
their own guy. But he had the choice and he's
trying to fix bad habits from whatever that was. Go
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back to Justin Fields. He completed sixty percent of his
passes over three years.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
There were times that you liked him, and he certainly
had some big runs towards the end of his Bear's
tenure in the crowd got excited, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
But and look, he was dealt to terrible hand. We
can all agree to that.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Even if you're just wanting to paint me as a
Bear's apologist, go back and watch the coaching staffs and
the clown show that was running through as OC for
several years now. Ben Johnson, it's still the first time
he gets cute and calls a toss from a offensive lineman.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I will throw something to.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
The tele Okay, that'd be the second quarter Week one.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Get ready, I will throw something television left because you'll
need a backup television because you will do.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
That in the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
But this guy was thirty five hundred yards twenty and
six a year ago. That was Caleb Williams stat line
the wins and losses. As soon as ebra Flus was
coming back, you knew it was a no go people.
I tried to tell you. Everybody listened to me.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Exit out of out of Fresca, Exit swalling down the
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carbon Live from the Fox
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Speaker 5 (29:51):
You called it the era good Feelings.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
A year ago it was terrible, and now you're burning
it down before step live.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I told you I love him this year, but if
it doesn't work, you can see there's no patience for
year three. Tim go to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports. A guy who's been called
the Caleb Williams of Fox Sports Radio. He's not really
exchanging Christmas cards with not ebra flues either it is
Steve de Sager.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Yeah, that's actually true. Some of these intros.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
You know that that one's actually true.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I wasn't sure where that was gonna go. I thought
he was gonna give you the three year decline. I
was getting ur Wow, she avoided the nails. The Bengals
are at Washington.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
It's mid fourth quarter and it's a lead for Cincinnati
and tonight's exhibition twenty eight seventeen. Bengals got a couple
of touchdown passes in the final minute before halftime, Jake
Browning to Mitchell Tinsley, too great grabs as for the
starter Joe Burrow with a short touchdown pass he played
three series. Washington quarterback Jaden Daniels a fourteen yard touchdown
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run on his only series. Usual starting running back for Washington,
Bryan Robinson, is out tonight he could be traded, reportedly
without him on the team's first two drives, six carries,
one hundred and six yards, two touchdowns for the Commanders.
The NFL preseason ends this Saturday. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford
with the bad back practice for the first time in
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this training camp, and the team had no further update.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
On his health.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Viking Star wide receiver Justin Jefferson, after a strained hamstring,
practiced on a limited basis for the first time in
nearly a month. The Browns name quarterback Joe Flacco as
their starter, and he will start Saturday's exhibition finale as well.
Miami reportedly signed linebacker Matthew Judan. The Colts signed veteran
defensive back Xavian Howard. Ohio State named Julian say And
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as its starting QB played a little for him last
year after transferring from Alabama Apiece preseason. All Americans include
three players from Texas, three from Penn State. There is
a college football game on Fox TV this Saturday, Fresno
State at Kansas. The WNBA is off five games coming
up on Tuesday. In Major League Baseball in progress, the
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Dodgers and Rockies are now tied three to three to
the eighth. Yoshinobu Yamamoto, the Dodgers starting pitcher Tonight, with
an ERA of two point nine to zero for the season,
did allow the tying home run in the seventh inning
at Coors Field. He had retired to a guy I
never heard of him. I had to retire thirteen straight
before then.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
So just to get this straight, the Dodgers swept the
Padres and they're having trouble with the Rockies.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
And got swept by the Angels just before.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Let's just okay, just a double checking, okay.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Sa Kiel Tovar, by the way, with the bat not
the glove helping the Rockies in this game with the
long bowl. The White Sox are leading thirteen to nine. Yeah,
it's top of the ninth inning. The Braves have won
five in a row. Their starter, Spencer Streyder, though three
plus inning seven runs allowed White Sox trying to end
a four game losing streak. Cardinals had lost five in
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a row but got to win at Miami eight to three.
Attendance eight thousand and five point fifty five. Kansas City
edged Texas for to three. Salvador Perez of Casey was
out tonight due to illness. Pittsburgh beat Toronto five to two.
Paul Skenes was the starter for the Pirates, no decision
but eight strikeouts in his six innings. Baltimore won at
Boston six to three. The lost to Dustin May, the
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former Dodger, although he allowed just two runs in his
six innings.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Of work.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
Philadelphia beat Seattle twelve to seven, two homers for Bryce Harper.
Detroit ten to nothing over Houston, the win to Jack Flaherty.
Milwaukee won the first of a scheduled doubleheader at Chicago
seven to nothing over the Cubs today. They made up
a rainout from a couple months ago. This starts a
five game series. This week. Winning pitcher for the Brewers,
Freddie Peralta, went six innings. He's fifteen to five, but
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Game two tonight was rained out. They'll play a doubleheader
on Tuesday instead. There is a game on FS one
right now. The Reds are leading tow to one at
the Angels in the bottom of the fourth inning. Cincinnati
Reds game and a half out of the last NL
wildcard behind the Mets, and the Giants are at San Diego.
Nester Cortes, the Padre starting pitcher, the x Yankee, allowed
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three homers in the first inning. It is still Giants
for nothing. In the fourth against the Padres, San Diego
had a home run well taken off the board due to.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Is Freddy Freeman playing in that game?
Speaker 8 (34:09):
That's right? Just is he an inside fast fall? Thank
you very much, By the way, Padres manager after you're
arguing was tossed after they had the run, taking off
the board back.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
To you what you got? Frost not great at math,
but I did solve your equation.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Okay, the Padres are worse than the Rockies. Okay that
the yes, the the law of the transitive property. You
are right about that. Very good, Very good. Hey, I
told your Friday springboard win for the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Look at that. Look at that.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Kept talking about them getting swept before though.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Exit swallowed up. Yeah, but once they won Friday, they
weren't getting swept. And I tell you bring in Diaz
and Jerry Royce to close out the ninth in in
Game one against the Padres. That was something and not
not not edwin Diz coming up next. Yes, more quarterback reaction.
One big quarter change is closer than you could possibly imagine.
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That's next, right here, Jason.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
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Speaker 1 (35:12):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. Four and a half to go in the
fourth quarter, Bengals lead the Commanders twenty eight to seventeen.
If you do preseason fantasy football, Browning's basically you know
he's your dynasty guy every year.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
He is having a big night for you. With a
couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Between him and Mitchell Tinsley. You had yourself a day.
I mean he was five for five, seventy three and
two at the end of the first half. Bang and Browning,
I mean he had that the ball knocked out of
his hand, but they ruled it was coming forward, so
he got another chance.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
And what did he do?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Bang?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
He made him pay.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Speaking of making people pay, what did I say last week?
We talked about look looking ahead, there are some big
stuff at stake in the NFL this coming weekend, and
we did and I said, if Jackson Dart has a
big game against the Jets, he accelerates his timeline to
start right. Legitimate or not, whether you believe that, Hey,
beating the Jets is a big thing winning the Snoopy Bowl,
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but this would be the second week in a row
that Jackson Dart has shined and Russell Wilson is not
getting You can just see the energy around the team.
It's all just it's coaggulating around Jackson Vice every day
in the New York papers and being ready to how
great Jackson Darty and Russell Wilson looked good. Hey had
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the big moon ball pass against the Jets on Saturday
after a blown coverage. Okay, but it doesn't matter because
the overwhelming desire is that the train has left the
station of Jackson Dart to start and everything we outlined
last week is going to come true. Can you show
that he's ready to handle it? Absolutely? Has he shown that? Yes,
one hundred percent. He might even play the final week
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of the preseason because you don't need to see anymore
because he was really good. He's a first round pick.
First round picks play. Brian Dable wants to keep his job.
Russell Wilson's a one year guy. Joe Shane would they
want to keep their jobs. Hey, if we have the
quarterback and we drafted the quarterback, you gotta let us stay.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
The timeline for Russell Wilson coming into last week was
I thought he had maybe until week eight. Now maybe
he's gotten till October if that, because if the Giants
start out poorly and Wilson doesn't put a lot of
points on the board, they're going to Jackson Dart and
it's gonna be sad watching Russell Wilson just sit on
the sideline and finish his career that way. But look,
that's how it goes, and and there is nothing stopping that.
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The Jackson Dart hype train is now out of control,
and rightfully so, because the guy has looked good. The
next thing is you gotta see him play. If he
was a third round pick, yeah, we're gonna stash him.
He's gonna he's gonna sit a little bit. He's gotta
get used to life in the NFL. He's a first
round pick. We know they play. And if it was
a case of hey, Ben Johnson starting over, he's got
a couple of years. Okay, maybe they try to make
it work with Russell Wilson and go No, Brian Dabeles
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got to keep his job. Guess what, it's Jackson Dart
sooner than later. And I mean I'm looking at October
first now for Russe that and anything short of like
a three and one start and Wilson in the Giants
averaging twenty four points a game, then it's Jackson Dart
by October. And I know the Giants aren't very good,
so that's exactly what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Well, you've had the issues Milik Neighbors, who's shown last
year despite how should we say, inadequate quarterback play, he's
been shelved and it hasn't really been able to practice.
So that's concerning. But we watched him and Tracey performed
quite well last year, but the offense sputtered. You've got
a pretty good defense. Most that do full on analysis
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of units would go through and just say, all right,
this is a defense that could be, you know, top
ten when it's all said done, can you get commensurate
play on the offensive side to get you into the
win column? Well, you start off with a couple of
division games. You've got the Commanders on the road week one,
and then you go to Dallas and Russell Wilson gets Steel.
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You know, win there are you one and one?
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Good luck?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Good luck?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
And then week three you've got Kansas City coming in.
So okay, what's this next iteration of the Chiefs? A
lot of questions, but dedicated Travis Kelcey, all of that
kind of stuff. Rashee Rice will be available because he
won't have had his hearing at that point yet. And
then you got week four with the Chargers coming to town,
So two road, two home to start. The over under
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on wins is five and a half. Yeah, and there's
some excitement about the defense, right that you can carry
it and maybe offensively you eat out wins like you
want to do with your Jets, where it's that seventeen fourteen,
twenty to fourteen.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Kind of win.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Maybe you can eat couple of those out, but in
the end, you gotta recognize who you are. Schedule doesn't
get easy at any point, Like there's not a string
of all. Right, there's three games against would be bottom
feeding teams that are in the same boat as us.
So yeah, you're you're looking at the where do you
get a spark? You let the kid play.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
And gonna it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
It's gonna be the exact same thing that Russell Wilson
saw last year in Pittsburgh, except now he's seeing it
from the other end. Was Justin Fields is the quarterback,
and as long as Pittsburgh was winning, everything was fine. No,
Justin Field's won, but did he win as much? Did
he put enough points on the board. Mike Tomlin was
itching to make that move to Russell Wilson. Right, that's
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what Wilson's gonna see now. But again, barring them starting
three and one and scoring a lot of points, Wilson's done.
I mean, he's Jackson Dart's gonna finish. You're gonna play
the entire season. He's the he's the future, he's the
present and every you should see what what the way
people talk about the way the Giants players talk about him,
and how he's not your average rook everything is everything
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is great for him. The game slows down for him.
They love his leadership. It's it's overall everything great about
him and the rest of it. Oh and Russ is
great too, like that, that's what it is. This is
not Hey we got about this is all yeah, and
Russ is great too. But wow, Jackson Dart. You sometimes
the world starts going away a certain way and it's
not coming back, and you can it's not coming back
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to Russell Wilson staying and keeping this job for very long.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Well, he's deable.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Wasn't beholden to veterans like we've seen Mike Tomlin do
and that guy that you saw the four years ago
in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Uh, he's long gone. Exit up.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
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buying should be. This is how we should be starting
Monday nights in the middle of a football game. We're
ready where another couple of weeks NFL season starts, zero
week in college football, we should be starting middle of
the night tonight. It's the Bengals with a lead over
the Washington Commanders. I'm kind of feeling like, okay, summer
is ending.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
We're here just jump into mid season form. Traffic was
a little fall like tonight, where it took that extra
fifteen to twenty minutes to get in with people doing
some knuckleheaded things in the final miles before exiting off
to the Fox Sports radio studios. We got that school
starts on Wednesday here for a lot of the districts
in southern California. So the last throws of summer silliness,
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as it were, gatherings for movie nights of things that
were made thirty five years ago. Let's go to the movies.
Let's watch stuff that came out many, many years. Well,
it's the thing now now, y'all. Look, damn, I can't
get anything green lit.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
But what can we do. Let's remake a movie from
forty years ago.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
Not a bad do it, not a bad thing?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Telling you man, anything that was popular in the right
now Hollywood is going through was what was even popular
for a nanosecond back in the.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Nineties doing it. We're relaunching it now. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Does Hanson want to do more concerts? Can we get
them gone? Let's get that. Let's get the crash test dummies,
let's put them on tour. Whatever we have, whatever's the night.
I'd be pretty good unearth. Your Your job is to
go through the entire decade of the nineties and find
something that works, and you come to me with some
sort of spreadsheet proposal and we'll green light it. I
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got one hundred million dollars behind any idea from the nineties.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Everybody, here's your homework assignment. Before we meet tomorrow at
nine am. You're gonna go through whatever boxes are in
your closet, are out in your garage. You're gonna find
whatever toys you have, and you're gonna bring them in.
We're gonna figure out whether the IP is available to
us cheaply because many people are still holding on to
those toys that you love so dearly. And if we
can make a movie, we will.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Now here we are right now again, the middle of
Monday night preseason Bengals lead the Commanders twenty eight seventeen.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Midway through the fan quarter.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
If Hendrick ah, yeah, well, I think I think, uh,
judging by the defensive performance in the first half, I
wasn't being serious. I think he's a guy going, well,
now you have to pay me whatever I want.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
You have to pay whatever I want. One hundred million
dollars yet, gotta give it to me. Gotta give it
to me. You have to, you have no choice.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
And if I'm the Bengals, I'm still laughing, going, Yeah, well,
our defense sucked with you last year.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
It ain't gonna be any worse here.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
And we got a guy that's willing to hit Joe
Burrow in practice.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
That's how hungry he is to be on the field.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Well, that that's the thing, right.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Obviously, the Commanders make it to the NFC Championship Game
last year, and we're expecting big things from them and
Jayden Daniels this year. But I will tell you this,
there is no bigger wild card wild card. There is
no bigger wild card in the NFL than the Bengals,
no bigger Well like you watched look Burrow so far
in this preseason. What first three drives? Three touchdowns? Great
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five three touchdowns?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
That dumb ass scramble play though, that's where every person
in the He was trying.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
To get his cardio win because he doesn't play a lot,
so he wanted to just run around a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
I got my steps in for two.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't want to see him doing that week five,
let alone in a preseason game where he's doing the
Chris Berman whoop trying to avoid.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Would be tacklers.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
This is a Bengals team that their offense could go
absolutely bananas. Right, you have a huge big three or
really big four, Chase Brown set to take on the
load this year. They go forward on fourth and one
in the first have big decision, They push it forward.
Joe Burrow could throw forty five touchdowns and for nearly
five thousand yards, and the Bengals could go thirteen and four. Right,
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and the offense can be that good. The defense could
be terrible because it doesn't look good at all. Burrow
could get dinged up, and all of a sudden, the
Bengals are looking at five and twelve like there have
been no bigger wild card where hey, this team can
have a tremendous year and all of a sudden, we remember,
look how good they were three years ago. Remember they
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got it to the super Bowl. They beat the Chiefs.
Remember Burrow ahead and all that fun stuff. Or it
could be yeah, look at the Bengals, they made it
that super Bowl. I've never getting back again. That was
just lucky. They could go thirteen and four. They could
go five and twelve. This is there is no bigger
wildcard than the Bengals.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I wonder how many of those people that I met
leaving Sofi Stadium after that Super Bowl are looking around going,
I really wish I could punch that guy in the
face right now, predicting that I'd go through seasons of
misery and that it wouldn't be quite so easy to
go back to the Super Bowl. But you look at
a squad offensively, and this one's kind of fun because
Browning has two touchdown passes in this one, two of
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them the Mitchell Tinsley Where did Mitchell Tinsley play his
last two seasons of football the Washington Commanders, And now
he's doing spinning catches in one of the hand zone,
leaping over a defender and toe tapping in the back.
Like with everything going on with Terry McLaurin, they might
they might need an extra receiver in that room. But
looking at what the Bengals have been doing, it's the
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same as it ever was. There's guys that're not gonna pay.
And for Joe Burrow to say, hey, I want to
be in camp, we need to start fast, that's all
finding good. You know what the biggest act he could
have done was let's go look at my contract. Let's
see how we spread money, and we figure out if
we think Trey Hendrickson is this big a deal for us?
Because the stats are there, right, his individual performance have
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been there. But I go back to last year, that
defense was still terrible if you look at it on
paper right now, even though they add in another pass
Rusher and Stewart, are they any better? No, they're not
any better. And that offensive line isn't good either. No,
So have you really progressed? The only thing you're hoping
is that Aaron Rodgers shows every bit of his forty
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plus years because and that Cleveland doesn't jump up and
bite you, you know, with one of those surprise. Hey,
they have to win a game somewhere on the schedule.
Maybe they don't, but we'll get to them in short order.
And then obviously you're chasing Baltimore. You're looking at a
squad and I think you're right, there's they can put
up a lot of points and losing spectacular fashion a
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year ago. Absolutely, this could be This could be Lady
or the Tiger. It could the Bengals. They could be amazing,
They could be terrible. This this is the reality for
the Bengals. Yeah, and I don't have lou Anamo to
get after. I mean even Scapegoat because they gave him
a real.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Building.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Not everybody is the Bears in the preseason, Jayson, everybody's
the Bears.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Well, we'll get to the Bear boy. I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
You know, it's bad when you lose to the Bears
like it's thirty eight nothing in the head. And and
Sean McDermot says, hey, guys, we we we gotta we
gotta get things together here a little bit.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Okay, we get it.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But look the other big news of the day, right
staying in the AFC North, our long national nightmare has
now finally ended. The Browns have named a quarterback for
Week one, and it is Joe Flacco. This is not
a surprise. Everybody else is hurt, right. Some players have
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distinguished themselves a little bit, but it doesn't matter. Kenny
Pickett still isn't really playing. Dylan Gabriel was dinged up.
Shoudor Sanders was really good week one, but then he
got dinged up and he couldn't play. This was a
very difficult, except not at all decision to say Joe
Flacco's the guy out of the gate. This is absolutely expected.
And the best part is now I am one down
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on my destriction of the five, the order of the
five quarterbacks, and how they're gonna start for the Browns
this year.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I said, it's Flacco out of the gate number one.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
If you bet that parlay right, my parlay of and
really because the whole the big wild card is Kenny Pickett, right,
Keny Pickett's a big wildcard.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, this gave you the free space. I mean, that's
what this in the center of my guard.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
If you're going, if you're going Flacco, and now that
Flacco's name the starter, you feel like you have some
time until Kenny Pickett gets in. You're still going Flacco, Picket, Sanders,
Gabriel Huntley. There's your order, there's your five guys. There's
your order. And right now you're one down. I said
Flacco to time. It's an easy one.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
It's a free one, right, which I mean like bingo card, Right,
you got five Rosah. So he's the guy right in
the center, he's your space. Yeah, it's like we go
to trivia's picture of his head.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
We go to trivia every Sunday, and uh, we won
this week and the trivia had the first question. They
always put on Instagram, right, they want people to follow,
so the it's a twenty question thing, so the first
one's always on Instagram. So it's kind of a freebie,
so you can if you don't know the answer, you
could look it up. They asked the first question, so
that's kind of what this is. Let's you know, it's
but it doesn't matter. Five guys, I gave you Joe
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Flacco's the one. Oh, you're one fifth of the way.
That's pretty good stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
What I should do though, is like I got a
couple of friends that were Jeopardy. Jeopardy champions one one
one day, uh, and then the husband was a five
day champion who actually went into the tournament. And wow,
pretty well, it's a pretty smart coup. Bring bring them
back in. Okay, they're only flaws. They both went to Duke.
Oh well that's okay, I do o'kay that that's fine.
That's fine as long as it was a Georgetown.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, they can carry, they can take care of everything,
and I'll do entertainment in sports.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I figured I'd bring them in to come up and
oppose you in your because it seems like you got
a bunch of slack jaws that you're playing against it.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
So you gotta bring you in some real competition.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Now here's here's the big thing, right. So okay, so
there's the obvious thing for the Browns. But I want
to say this what I'm really interested to see. Now,
how does the how does the depth chart break down
between now and the beginning of the season, right, Because
you had Dylan Gabriel play okay at times this weekend,
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but other time showing boy, he really has some has
some work to do.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Until that pick six, which, depending on who you listen to,
may or may not have been his fault.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Blame everybody except Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
But but either way, I mean, like I started seeing
all sorts of tweets that you might as well have
taken the ones that you wrote for Shador Sanders and
we've gone to the preseason and just changed out the
name look at him.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
But this is this is the big one, right, this
is the big thing.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
If Gabriel and Pickett are still ahead of Shador Sanders
when the season starts, this tells you one of two
things is happening. Either one there's a split between the
team and the front office and ownership as to who
they want playing where. Either it's because there's no rif
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if Shador Sanders stays low on the depth chart, Dylan
Gabriel stays up, even though Sanders well out played Gabriel
despite getting not many reps. If Sanders is still low
in the depth chart, you know, either a there's a
difference of opinion in between if they even want him
on the team. Maybe you know, the coaching staff wants them,
but the front office doesn't and the ownership is kind
of up in the air, or the other way around.
The front office wants them, the coaching staff doesn't. So
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there's there's a reason why he's not moving up. Or
he needs to be doing stuff off the field that
we don't know about. The needs to be part of
the of for everybody's process of a quarterback. He needs
to be doing things that we haven't seen on the field,
because so far on the field, Shadoor Sanders pretty good results,
right you're judging by what you saw in week one
in the preseason, regardless to whatever it is. If that's
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the case and he's still low on the depth chart
before you get to the beginning of the season, the brown
do the kid a favor, do yourselves a favor. Trade him,
you can sell out, you can flip them. You did
a fifth round pick, you gave him some reps. You
can turn him into a third round pick. There's gonna
be teams that are saying, hey, we really like what
we saw the way he you know, we could take
a look at that that half of football that he
played and he was really good, and we see some
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film from this year, from the preseason, and what we like.
Because it's clear that the Browns aren't invested in Shador Sanders.
And all you're gonna do then is after this year,
whatever happens, you wave don't get anything for him if
you really don't like him, and if he doesn't move
up the depth chart, you can tell they don't at
the end of the preseason, Okay, trade you still got
four quarterbacks on the roster, You still have Flacco. He'll
be taking for arch Manning. But whatever reason it is,
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whether it was we disagree whether or not we even
want him on the team where he should be playing,
or we want to teach him a lesson, his future
is not in Cleveland, so you can flip him and
you can get a draft pick back for him. You
could probably you can get higher than a fifth round
pick for Shador Sanders. Third round pick.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Ooh that might.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
But if you get a team desperate enough, a quarterback
that wants to see if they can succeed, and hey,
I can turn him.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I saw what I liked in the preseason.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
There's all kinds of mad scientists quarterbacks, the quarterback coaches
that want to do that. You can upgrade for it,
and you walk away saying, well, there it is Shador Sanders.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
The experiment was there.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
We spent a fifth route pick on him, we got
back a fourth and a sixth, or we got back
and forth, we got back a third, whatever it is.
We got back a third and gave back a forth.
We moved up. We got a potential starting player. Okay,
done and done because if he doesn't move to the
depth truck, you know that's what's going on.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well, but part of it is legitimately, you got what
nine series and he wasn't a star on all of them.
Made a couple of big throws, no question about it.
But you know it's it's always the which side of
the preseason. Are we going to where it's got to
be everything is the greatest thing? Like today in Chicago,
Caleb Williams walks on water, he misses the side of
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a net in a speed drill where he just feigns
that he's mad, and all of a sudden he's the
worst guy in the world. So it's that Shador Sanders
same thing. A couple of couple of drives. Even after
a draft process where thirty two teams passed on him
in four rounds, including supplemental picks, et cetera, before you
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get to the fifth round, there's still a backstory to
all of this. There's still a real and even in
camp if he's not elevating, there's still there's still, you know,
more to be said to this. Kenny Pickett may not
be with this team when it's all said and done.
If he were healthy, he might have been spun off
already or might be close to being there. But for
all of the I'm not deifying Shador Sanders off a
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couple of touchdown throws in somebody else. I don't love him,
I don't hate him, but I don't think you saw
enough to where suddenly you're spinning him back into a
third round pick.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Oh if you third and you give me back a fourth. Yeah, no,
I could see that easily. That everybody's so quarterback hungry,
and people's quarterback situations don't turn out the way they will.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
That's the thing though, Like coming into the draft, if
you loved him, you had plenty of opportunities to.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Go bite the apple.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Then jets might give a first round pick for after
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Speaker 4 (17:03):
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Speaker 1 (17:05):
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Speaker 6 (17:33):
Empty backfield. It's standing around the nineteen yard line. Three
wide receivers to the left, sure the right, both of
them on the right. Inside the numbers, they pick up
a late blitzer Logan Wilson. Here's up Daniels with a
speak to the ten to five kits away from.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Another belt touchdown, tuckdown on again, the toughness up Daniels
at the goal.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
Line and the storm there was.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Commanders excited. I'm ready for the season. We almost made
it to the super Bowl last year of the rookie.
Speaker 5 (17:59):
Now, well he took his gun even better.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
It's exciting, jacked up about it.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, anytime of guy's pinballing his way into the end zone,
something I don't necessarily want my quarterback doing in the preseason,
but I guess you gotta get those battle scars.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Uh yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Look, and this is this is part of what we
saw those first couple of series by the command We
talked about the Bengals being the biggest wildcard in all
the sports, like that was the only stat that Jayden
Daniels had tonight was that fourteen yard scramble for a touchdown,
because all they did was run the ball four times
in a row directly into the end zone. I mean,
that was what the first drive was for the Bengals
defense to one.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Carry fourteen yards and the score Deebo ran for twenty yards.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
You had Rodriguez had two runs, one for forty yards,
one for a yard, and then you fourteen yard touchdown.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Run. Now, that's you walk off the field and go. Man.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
That was that was That was a big reality sandwich.
We had to eat right there.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Okay, it's clobber in time, bang bang bang, one after
another and no Brian Roman in the middle of the Yeah.
Oh as he's potentially I'm gonna be traded away. So
it's like everybody else that might carry the ball, welcome
to it. Yeah, John Riggins, everybody? Oh sure, big day?
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Uh Now, Two big quarterbacks in the news this weekend
after Week two of the preseason, and the one thing
that I've really come around to, right, Caleb Williams had
a pretty good game, albeit against Bill's backups. The Bills
had a horrible game on any stretch of the imagination.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Last night.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
They lost seventy six nothing to the Bears, and every
every person the Bears put out there played well. Caleb
Williams played well, and that should have been all right?
Can we have Is it enough past that Caleb Williams sucks?
Can we can we can we cool out with Hey?
He you know he missed a net. He's no good?
Can we cool out with that story?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Now? He's the greatest of all time?
Speaker 4 (19:50):
What are you talking?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
About not the Well, look it was against the second team,
right Bill's second team defense out there, but still okay,
he was good. And then all of a sudden, Tyson
Beaging comes in for extended play.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
And he's really good.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Oh suddenly social media just rrupts on Tyson bage and
what hit me is this is that Lisz I told
you last week. Just everybody's got to calm the bleep
down about Caleb Williams. All Right, he's in his first year.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
With a new offense.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
He's got the right coach who turned Jared Goff into
a good quarterback. Again, he had a lot of weapons.
He knows how to build the offense. He's got a
lot of weapons. Everybody's got to chill out with the
Caleb Williams sucks narrative. But that's what's been overwhelming since
the beginning of camp. Hey, everything's gonna be fine. It's
work in progress. It's not like I'm watching justin fields
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with the Jets going. There's a great pass, there's a
one hot pass, there's still no completions to Garrett Wilson. Now,
everything is fine, Caleb Williams, Everything is gonna be good.
I told you he's gonna have a big year, right,
thirty touchdowns, four thousand yards.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
But because no one can.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Calm down, because as you saw again after that, there
should at least have been a microsecond of all right,
Caleb Williams pretty good, A right, that's fine. No, no
one has calm after his terrific performance. And when the
narrative is, oh, but it's only the second string against
the Bills. But look how good Tyson Binge it was.
That was against the third string. Oh, it doesn't matter,
Tyson bage is great. You gotta pick a lane.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
There is zero patience for Williams year two in Chicago,
and you saw them push Justin Fields out when they
were unsure if they wanted to go forward with him.
Now now look, clearly Justin Fields wasn't quite taken to
the same extent with the number one overall pick. You're
a franchise alter in court. This is Hey, we got
a guy that we think is really good. We got
him in the first round of the draft. But this
was Caleb Williams was taken with different levels of expectation.
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If this year doesn't go well, there is zero patience
for it, and he will get pushed out after year
two and it will be Ben Johnson, new quarterback Bill Things.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
We love Ben Johnson. It's not working. We knew Caleb
Williams dunk.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Because really, Caleb Williams is kind of on a four
year down tick, right yet, Hey, look how good he
was at Oklahoma. He transfers really good year, staysn't in
for usc for his next year. Okay, not quite as good,
but still gonna be the number one pick his rookie year.
Last year wasn't nearly as bad as people thought it was,
but it doesn't matter. The optic is Caleb Williams is
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underachieving another year here, and I can tell there's gonna
be no patience in Chicago for a year three of
Caleb Williams, and something's going to have to happen, and
it's gonna be Caleb Williams someplace else because you think
it's gonna be well, that's fine, we'll get to year
two and everything is fine. No, there's none of that.
Everybody is ready to cut bait on Williams now. And
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so if this doesn't work this year, this is Caleb
Williams someplace else to finish out his rookie contract playing.
If this year doesn't work, you can see how things
are gonna go. They're already potentially going this way.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
If he if his.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
First pass Week one is incomplete, that's it, man. You
gotta get something really safe for that first pass, something
really safe. Let him complete it from you guys, if
you have that, okay, make sure that is going. Because
will he's got there is zero patience for him in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Well, I mean it's an eat di starbaded view of
the world from what we were just talking about with
Shador Sanders, except here there's actually some gravitas to the
selection as opposed to a fifth round pick, all the trades,
all of the laughing of look what they did to
Carolina haha, and away you go. And for Caleb Williams,
he came in with a lot of scrutiny and certainly
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you know, it's a tough talent. So the expectations on
the quarterback, if you're going to invest as they did,
is that he's going to be the savior. You saw
it in brief periods when Jay Cutler was traded for
and he came in and he put up some big numbers.
And I've said it all along. You know, you look
at quarterback play. In my lifetime, there are very few
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guys that top it in that city. Justin Fields had
a chance, and even if he won some games Mitchell Trubisky,
they made the trade.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
They went bold and went after it.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Remember the forty nine ers didn't necessarily win the trade
off the guy they got in that first round. No,
it was the guy that came later in Fred Warner.
But just the idea that you've taken a couple of
swings and they haven't played out, even with a couple
of playoff appearances. Folks forget about Mitchell Trubisky, but didn't
give you that level of success. Now with Caleb Williams
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comes in, you have the book that Wickersham did and
calling out, hey, how he wanted to let no, you
ask right, if you think you can buck the system
and change things, you do. But then again, once he
got there, what did he do? He embraced the city,
showed up at everything he did. But people don't like that.
He paints his nails even before he came out and played.
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It's like I have a silver nail polish. What's he
doing again, like going into the stands like he's operating
from a deficit with a lot of folks, regardless of
what went on on the field. Right, twenty and six
touchdown to interception ratio last year all fantastic, The interceptionless
street great, but he took sixty eight sacks. Many of
them were his fault. Well, now he's actually got a
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coach who's going to hold him.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Accountable, and he's got a better offensive line.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Well, we'll see on paper.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
It's it's like if your bullpen is terrible in baseball
and you bring in a bunch of new guys, it's
gonna be better.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
It's gotta be better.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
It can.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
But like, you've actually got a coach who's emphasizing tough love,
and hey, get the ball out right, don't take a sack,
be smart with the football. You got the interceptionist streak
was great, but how many guys downfield did he miss
because they didn't want him pulling the trigger? Was all right,
make the safe play, keep the possession alive. It's like, no,
you need you need to take shots downfield and have
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confidence that you can do so. With Ben Johnson, you're
looking at a completely different set and and an offense
that will take time to develop.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
There's gonna be growing pains, and if the media doesn't
like it too, damn bad. As long as Johnson and
he are on the same page. And it's look, they're
over under is low. They are last in the division
in terms of winning the division. They are the long
shot behind the as yet unknown JJ McCarthy and the
the Vikings. Because last year, even if they take a
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step back, it was a.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Fourteen win team. Yeah, right, And the Packers are the Packers.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
And the Lions even losing the the coordinators, including the
aforementioned Ben Johnson, roster wise, they're still better. But for
Caleb Williams, there'll be a year three. They're not They're
not gonna push eject just because the guys at the score.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
It's not the guys and it's it's the overall. It's
the overall feeling with the team and are we gonna
get better? Is year three is another year in the
locker room or act that's everywhere?
Speaker 5 (26:33):
First?
Speaker 3 (26:33):
No, But if in the locker room they're feeling good
that they're progressing and they're getting better.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Did the same thing with Justin Fields. They did the
same thing. They say, you know what, we don't know
if Justin Field is gonna be good. This wasn't Justin
Fields was terrible. Remember we had a thousand yard season rushing.
This was we don't know if Justin Fields is really
going to ever be the guy. Now, clearly they had
a chance to pick because they were picking number one overall,
so it was a little bit easier. But if it's
a bad year for Caleb Williams, it's gonna be Are
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we really think that year two it's gonna go forward.
He's with a great savant that's supposed to make things better.
And when you're with a great offensive coach who's a
great quarterbacks coach, guess what you're expected to be better.
So if this is not better, you're gonna the Bears
are gonna sit back after this year and go, Okay, yes,
there's gonna be the The cacophony of sound to get
rid of him is gonna be immense, But it's gonna
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be inside those walls.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
If we go forward with.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Caleb Williams, are we sure he's gonna get it? Or
are we just postponing the future by moving on from quarterback?
So so much faster now two years of Caleb Williams,
the second year ain't any good. Guess what, They're not
gonna be a third it's gonna be We'll find a way.
Will we can move on from him. He's still on
a rookie deal. Someone might want him. We can Hey,
it's not working for us. They found a way to
move on from Justin Fields. They will find a way
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to move on from Caleb Williams. And it's not good
because that's gonna be going forward. Do we know he's
going to be great? And if you have a three
year downturn now going back to his final year at
at USC, it's okay. Maybe he's just not quite the
guy now. Look, I don't think that's happening. I think
he's gonna be really good. He was that good. To
get him outside the pocket a little bit more, you'll
be fine, petre nails, whatever color you want to, he's
(28:05):
gonna be fine. But if it doesn't like, that's really hard.
Certain certain teams, you can't just say, hey, yes, suck
it up with us one more year. We're gonna figure
it out. Even though Johnson's not going anywhere, you know
he's gonna be the guy to hopefully get a couple
more years to turn this around, But it's that personnel
you just saw him do it. It's gonna be really
hard to say, yeah, year three is gonna be better. Well,
(28:26):
but the bigger thing is Ben Johnson had his choice
of wherever he wanted to go coach. He decided he
wanted to go work with this guy. And I don't
think that's just for a one off season and whatever
this becomes. I don't think it becomes the all right,
let's let's go bring in the new guy. Everybody wants
their own guy. But he had the choice and he's
trying to fix bad habits from whatever that was. Go
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back to Justin Fields. He completed sixty percent of his
passes over three years.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
There were times that you liked him, and he certainly
had some big runs towards the end of his Bear's
tenure in the crowd got excited, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
But and look, he was dealt to terrible hand. We
can all agree to that.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Even if you're just wanting to paint me as a
Bear's apologist, go back and watch the coaching staffs and
the clown show that was running through as OC for
several years now. Ben Johnson, it's still the first time
he gets cute and calls a toss from a offensive lineman.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I will throw something to.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
The tele Okay, that'd be the second quarter Week one.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Get ready, I will throw something television left because you'll
need a backup television because you will do.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
That in the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
But this guy was thirty five hundred yards twenty and
six a year ago. That was Caleb Williams stat line
the wins and losses. As soon as ebra Flus was
coming back, you knew it was a no go people.
I tried to tell you. Everybody listened to me.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Exit out of out of Fresca, Exit swalling down the
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carbon Live from the Fox
Sports Radio studios. You're in a twenty twenty five or bucks.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
You called it the era good Feelings.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
A year ago it was terrible, and now you're burning
it down before step live.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I told you I love him this year, but if
it doesn't work, you can see there's no patience for
year three. Tim go to find out what's trending in
the wide world of sports. A guy who's been called
the Caleb Williams of Fox Sports Radio. He's not really
exchanging Christmas cards with not ebra flues either it is
Steve de Sager.
Speaker 8 (30:16):
Yeah, that's actually true. Some of these intros.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
You know that that one's actually true.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I wasn't sure where that was gonna go. I thought
he was gonna give you the three year decline. I
was getting ur Wow, she avoided the nails. The Bengals
are at Washington.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
It's mid fourth quarter and it's a lead for Cincinnati
and tonight's exhibition twenty eight seventeen. Bengals got a couple
of touchdown passes in the final minute before halftime, Jake
Browning to Mitchell Tinsley, too great grabs as for the
starter Joe Burrow with a short touchdown pass he played
three series. Washington quarterback Jaden Daniels a fourteen yard touchdown
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run on his only series. Usual starting running back for Washington,
Bryan Robinson, is out tonight he could be traded, reportedly
without him on the team's first two drives, six carries,
one hundred and six yards, two touchdowns for the Commanders.
The NFL preseason ends this Saturday. Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford
with the bad back practice for the first time in
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this training camp, and the team had no further update.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
On his health.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Viking Star wide receiver Justin Jefferson, after a strained hamstring,
practiced on a limited basis for the first time in
nearly a month. The Browns name quarterback Joe Flacco as
their starter, and he will start Saturday's exhibition finale as well.
Miami reportedly signed linebacker Matthew Judan. The Colts signed veteran
defensive back Xavian Howard. Ohio State named Julian say And
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as its starting QB played a little for him last
year after transferring from Alabama Apiece preseason. All Americans include
three players from Texas, three from Penn State. There is
a college football game on Fox TV this Saturday, Fresno
State at Kansas. The WNBA is off five games coming
up on Tuesday. In Major League Baseball in progress, the
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Dodgers and Rockies are now tied three to three to
the eighth. Yoshinobu Yamamoto, the Dodgers starting pitcher Tonight, with
an ERA of two point nine to zero for the season,
did allow the tying home run in the seventh inning
at Coors Field. He had retired to a guy I
never heard of him. I had to retire thirteen straight
before then.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
So just to get this straight, the Dodgers swept the
Padres and they're having trouble with the Rockies.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
And got swept by the Angels just before.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Let's just okay, just a double checking, okay.
Speaker 8 (32:27):
Sa Kiel Tovar, by the way, with the bat not
the glove helping the Rockies in this game with the
long bowl. The White Sox are leading thirteen to nine. Yeah,
it's top of the ninth inning. The Braves have won
five in a row. Their starter, Spencer Streyder, though three
plus inning seven runs allowed White Sox trying to end
a four game losing streak. Cardinals had lost five in
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a row but got to win at Miami eight to three.
Attendance eight thousand and five point fifty five. Kansas City
edged Texas for to three. Salvador Perez of Casey was
out tonight due to illness. Pittsburgh beat Toronto five to two.
Paul Skenes was the starter for the Pirates, no decision
but eight strikeouts in his six innings. Baltimore won at
Boston six to three. The lost to Dustin May, the
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former Dodger, although he allowed just two runs in his
six innings.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Of work.
Speaker 8 (33:14):
Philadelphia beat Seattle twelve to seven, two homers for Bryce Harper.
Detroit ten to nothing over Houston, the win to Jack Flaherty.
Milwaukee won the first of a scheduled doubleheader at Chicago
seven to nothing over the Cubs today. They made up
a rainout from a couple months ago. This starts a
five game series. This week. Winning pitcher for the Brewers,
Freddie Peralta, went six innings. He's fifteen to five, but
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Game two tonight was rained out. They'll play a doubleheader
on Tuesday instead. There is a game on FS one
right now. The Reds are leading tow to one at
the Angels in the bottom of the fourth inning. Cincinnati
Reds game and a half out of the last NL
wildcard behind the Mets, and the Giants are at San Diego.
Nester Cortes, the Padre starting pitcher, the x Yankee, allowed
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three homers in the first inning. It is still Giants
for nothing. In the fourth against the Padres, San Diego
had a home run well taken off the board due to.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Is Freddy Freeman playing in that game?
Speaker 8 (34:09):
That's right? Just is he an inside fast fall? Thank
you very much, By the way, Padres manager after you're
arguing was tossed after they had the run, taking off
the board back.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
To you what you got? Frost not great at math,
but I did solve your equation.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Okay, the Padres are worse than the Rockies. Okay that
the yes, the the law of the transitive property. You
are right about that. Very good, Very good. Hey, I
told your Friday springboard win for the Dodgers.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
Look at that. Look at that.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Kept talking about them getting swept before though.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Exit swallowed up. Yeah, but once they won Friday, they
weren't getting swept. And I tell you bring in Diaz
and Jerry Royce to close out the ninth in in
Game one against the Padres. That was something and not
not not edwin Diz coming up next. Yes, more quarterback reaction.
One big quarter change is closer than you could possibly imagine.
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That's next, right here, Jason.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
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Speaker 1 (35:12):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. Four and a half to go in the
fourth quarter, Bengals lead the Commanders twenty eight to seventeen.
If you do preseason fantasy football, Browning's basically you know
he's your dynasty guy every year.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
He is having a big night for you. With a
couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Between him and Mitchell Tinsley. You had yourself a day.
I mean he was five for five, seventy three and
two at the end of the first half. Bang and Browning,
I mean he had that the ball knocked out of
his hand, but they ruled it was coming forward, so
he got another chance.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
And what did he do?
Speaker 3 (35:44):
Bang?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
He made him pay.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Speaking of making people pay, what did I say last week?
We talked about look looking ahead, there are some big
stuff at stake in the NFL this coming weekend, and
we did and I said, if Jackson Dart has a
big game against the Jets, he accelerates his timeline to
start right. Legitimate or not, whether you believe that, Hey,
beating the Jets is a big thing winning the Snoopy Bowl,
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but this would be the second week in a row
that Jackson Dart has shined and Russell Wilson is not
getting You can just see the energy around the team.
It's all just it's coaggulating around Jackson Vice every day
in the New York papers and being ready to how
great Jackson Darty and Russell Wilson looked good. Hey had
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the big moon ball pass against the Jets on Saturday
after a blown coverage. Okay, but it doesn't matter because
the overwhelming desire is that the train has left the
station of Jackson Dart to start and everything we outlined
last week is going to come true. Can you show
that he's ready to handle it? Absolutely? Has he shown that? Yes,
one hundred percent. He might even play the final week
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of the preseason because you don't need to see anymore
because he was really good. He's a first round pick.
First round picks play. Brian Dable wants to keep his job.
Russell Wilson's a one year guy. Joe Shane would they
want to keep their jobs. Hey, if we have the
quarterback and we drafted the quarterback, you gotta let us stay.
Speaker 8 (37:02):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
The timeline for Russell Wilson coming into last week was
I thought he had maybe until week eight. Now maybe
he's gotten till October if that, because if the Giants
start out poorly and Wilson doesn't put a lot of
points on the board, they're going to Jackson Dart and
it's gonna be sad watching Russell Wilson just sit on
the sideline and finish his career that way. But look,
that's how it goes, and and there is nothing stopping that.
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The Jackson Dart hype train is now out of control,
and rightfully so, because the guy has looked good. The
next thing is you gotta see him play. If he
was a third round pick, yeah, we're gonna stash him.
He's gonna he's gonna sit a little bit. He's gotta
get used to life in the NFL. He's a first
round pick. We know they play. And if it was
a case of hey, Ben Johnson starting over, he's got
a couple of years. Okay, maybe they try to make
it work with Russell Wilson and go No, Brian Dabeles
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got to keep his job. Guess what, it's Jackson Dart
sooner than later. And I mean I'm looking at October
first now for Russe that and anything short of like
a three and one start and Wilson in the Giants
averaging twenty four points a game, then it's Jackson Dart
by October. And I know the Giants aren't very good,
so that's exactly what's gonna happen.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Well, you've had the issues Milik Neighbors, who's shown last
year despite how should we say, inadequate quarterback play, he's
been shelved and it hasn't really been able to practice.
So that's concerning. But we watched him and Tracey performed
quite well last year, but the offense sputtered. You've got
a pretty good defense. Most that do full on analysis
(38:27):
of units would go through and just say, all right,
this is a defense that could be, you know, top
ten when it's all said done, can you get commensurate
play on the offensive side to get you into the
win column? Well, you start off with a couple of
division games. You've got the Commanders on the road week one,
and then you go to Dallas and Russell Wilson gets Steel.
(38:47):
You know, win there are you one and one?
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Good luck?
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Good luck?
Speaker 3 (38:50):
And then week three you've got Kansas City coming in.
So okay, what's this next iteration of the Chiefs? A
lot of questions, but dedicated Travis Kelcey, all of that
kind of stuff. Rashee Rice will be available because he
won't have had his hearing at that point yet. And
then you got week four with the Chargers coming to town,
So two road, two home to start. The over under
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on wins is five and a half. Yeah, and there's
some excitement about the defense, right that you can carry
it and maybe offensively you eat out wins like you
want to do with your Jets, where it's that seventeen fourteen,
twenty to fourteen.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
Kind of win.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Maybe you can eat couple of those out, but in
the end, you gotta recognize who you are. Schedule doesn't
get easy at any point, Like there's not a string
of all. Right, there's three games against would be bottom
feeding teams that are in the same boat as us.
So yeah, you're you're looking at the where do you
get a spark? You let the kid play.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
And gonna it's gonna be.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
It's gonna be the exact same thing that Russell Wilson
saw last year in Pittsburgh, except now he's seeing it
from the other end. Was Justin Fields is the quarterback,
and as long as Pittsburgh was winning, everything was fine. No,
Justin Field's won, but did he win as much? Did
he put enough points on the board. Mike Tomlin was
itching to make that move to Russell Wilson. Right, that's
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what Wilson's gonna see now. But again, barring them starting
three and one and scoring a lot of points, Wilson's done.
I mean, he's Jackson Dart's gonna finish. You're gonna play
the entire season. He's the he's the future, he's the
present and every you should see what what the way
people talk about the way the Giants players talk about him,
and how he's not your average rook everything is everything
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is great for him. The game slows down for him.
They love his leadership. It's it's overall everything great about
him and the rest of it. Oh and Russ is
great too, like that, that's what it is. This is
not Hey we got about this is all yeah, and
Russ is great too. But wow, Jackson Dart. You sometimes
the world starts going away a certain way and it's
not coming back, and you can it's not coming back
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to Russell Wilson staying and keeping this job for very long.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
Well, he's deable.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Wasn't beholden to veterans like we've seen Mike Tomlin do
and that guy that you saw the four years ago
in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
Uh, he's long gone. Exit up.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
How about a Fresco exit swollen dome. Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Coming up next,
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