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October 9, 2024 40 mins

Jason and Mike tell you why Dodgers/Padres is the best rivalry in sports right now. And Jason explains why the Jets firing Robert Saleh was the right call.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
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that look like a wee Beelow's convention. You know this,
I mean, but pay some play is gone to hell man.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Yeah, I actually called a pitch clock violation during the
Mets Phillies saying like, wow, okay, the umpires are paying attention.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
I still got to pay attention. I mean, you got
to make it look like that rule matters. I mean
even if you've thrown it out for most of the way.
But yeah, this is uh, it's been insanity the last hour.
You and I sitting in the back, wait for our
opportunity to sit in the studio and get on microphone.
Just the roller coaster of emotions, friendly jumping around, Padres

(01:36):
guy yipping it up, and then all of a sudden,
well not so fast, my friend. It feels like Robert
Sala got fired, like like a year ago. It was.
It's the anniversary of Roberts. I woke up very early
this morning. He's like, uh huh, what do you know. Oh,
that seems like forever. You're not getting off out easy, buddy. No, no,
don't worry, don't worry.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Uh So, yes, Robert Salah gets fired the Mets, Phillies.
The Mets are a game away from the NLC. Yes, however,
what is happening right now between the Padres and the Dodgers.
If you thought this series is gonna go back to normalcy,
there was gonna be a bit of hey, wait a minute,
let's let this series settle down. Let's go fighters, go
back to your corners, let's come out. Let's have a

(02:15):
clean next round of boxing. Nope, nope, nope, we are
getting instead people getting hit over the head with chairs.
Mister Fuji is tripping people with his cane.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Oh great, Muki came out and had the green smoke
going like we got it all.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
The game begins with Mookie Betts hitting a home run
to the same part of the ballpark where Jerks and
Profar pulled it back from in Game two when he
stopped mess with the fans and then showed.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Oh, I have the ball. He should have caught this.
H MOOKI hits it to the same spot.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
However, Profar doesn't get it, but the umpire, because of
Profar Shenanigans, doesn't signal home run, doesn't know.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Mookie Betts thinks he flew out. He goes trying to
go back to the dugout and they're going no, no,
keep running, and so he goes back. Umpire finally signals
home run. So Mookie Bets scored. You bleeping back.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You knew at that moment this game was all right.
We're picking up where he left off. Gotta be off
the rails. The Padres score six runs in the last
inning thanks to couple of errors by the Dodgers. Freddie
Freeman makes a really bad play, Rojas makes a really
bad play at shortstop. Fernando Tatiz Junior hits a clobbers
a home run. Manny Machado runs out of the baseline

(03:23):
on a play at second base, gets hit by the ball,
so he winds up safe. Everybody is safe. It was
just a comedy of errors and conference of circumstances. It
was like a tidal wave of baseball karma and baseball
emotion was flooding the Dodgers in the bottom of that inning. Okay,
so six to one, all right, Padres are rolling on

(03:44):
you and I are talking. I'm saying, well, Mets Padre,
maybe easy, gett Mets Padre's tickets and Mets Dodgers tickets.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, not so fast.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, Dodgers load the bases and tioscar Hernandez homers to
dead center field, a grand slam.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
You want to hear it? That has turned out. I
thought we're not allowed too. Oh, there's always exceptions. I
think I think there's a taoscar. I don't don't. I
don't flying item. I don't think we can. I don't
mean I don't. I don't think we can. I don't
think we Rob Madford comes in here with a hunk
of metal and throws it at you.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
What he can bring it in here? I don't think
we can till after the game is over, I don't.
I don't think we're I don't think we.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
If it gets who gets in trouble, is it him?
You and me? Because our names are on the show.
I mean that's not a problem.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
But you, because I'll throw you under the bus because
I'll say, hey, you told him, go ahead and play
it ill completely will Oh yeah, I'm completely looking.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Out for me.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, no, no, all your Mike
Harmon show crap. The last couple of ye yeah, this
is where it comes back to hurt you now.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Oh yeah, it'll never exist. I've come to that wreck.
Yeah yeah, but you keep think, you keep thinking, so now, yeah,
throw you completely under the bus completely, because now you're
wearing sleeves. It shows that you're more uh more preoccupied
with with your health. So you're not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
Jason, I got a proposition for you then, And what
do you got? We can't play playing the sound of
the home run the Great Grand Slam, right, Okay, I'm
gonna need you to make me a trade.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
A trade, Okay, what do you want? Grimace? Dude?

Speaker 1 (05:14):
There are very few untouchables. Grimace is one of them.
I'd rather give you a indoor than give you Grimace,
that's how.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
But now you've got like nine thousand grim eyes showing
up at the stadium. Dude, you want to know.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
This is when I knew the Mets are going to
win today when I saw the video of Grimace getting
on on the train with the seven line and they're
all yelling grim Grimma.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Just how drunk were those people? Good for them? Those
are my peeps, man, those are the best PEPs. I mean,
that's that's what sporting events should be all about. Are
catching the train? Where have a sip?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
When I saw that video of the guy dressed as
gard woman, I don't even know what dresses Grimace getting.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
On the train.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Come on, come on, come on, grims that we're gonna
win today.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
To nerve wrecking though, when they started going around the
stands and showing just how many people were wearing various
incarnations of the Grimace. I was also close to Halloween.
It's gonna be incredibly popular Halloween. Yeah, no it It
was sold out two weeks ago. Yeah, I can't get Grimmoth.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
You didn't get a Grimma get Grimouth Tri State Area,
no chance? Uh so Yes, Metts beat the Phillies seven
to there, one game away from the NLCS. Meanwhile, Padres
and Dodgers has turned into a game. Uh do you
want to say? Is the emotion still there? Fernando Tatis Junior,
after his home run, stood at the plate for about
twenty seconds watching that ball go over the fence. Walker

(06:38):
Buehler in the dugout in between innings was smashing things
he picked up. I don't know what he picked up
and threw, but he picked up something with both hands
and smashing all the ground. Yeah this is I'll tell you. Hey, Look,
I love Mets, Phillies, I love Yo Yankees. Where all
this stuff? Yeah, Padres Dodgers, Like that's it, man, like that,
this is the Padres Dodgers. Honestly is the new Yankee.

(07:00):
He's red Sox. You think about Ryo, you think about that,
it's only a couple of years old. This hatred between
the Padres and the Dodgers, and for a long time, look,
Yankees Red Sox ran ran everything in baseball. We knew
Sunday Night baseball. These games are four and a half
hours long. Yes, Yankees Red Sox. For a long time,
Yankees Red Sox. But when the Padres got good a
couple of years ago, they signed all those players, and

(07:21):
all the players at that time. Look, they're very young,
very emotional, kind of like they are now, except they're
couple years older, very emotional, and they turned this into
a little brother big brother rivalry, and the Dodgers reciprocated,
and boy was it fun. Like those Dodgers Padres games
two years ago. Beginning of the year is like, Wow,
this is amazing. I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
They play again, They play again, they play again.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Padres kind of fell out of it, you know, they realized, oh,
we can't play with this kind of emotion for one
hundred and sixty two games. Oh and they wind up,
you go falling off. And then last year happens and
they have a really good run and they're starting to
get it and understand, Okay, we can't play that emotion card.
We can't play it this way, but you can absolutely
do it in the playoffs. So now this is where
the Padres thrive in moments like this because they love

(08:03):
the chaos. They love getting under the Dodgers skin. We
said it last night. The Padres plan has been working
to perfection. They know how to get under the Dodger skin,
and the Dodgers reciprocate. Whether it's Dave Roberts saying major
League Baseball, look at this throw, and Machiada throws the
ball at us, trying to figure out why fans are
throwing the balls back of the stadium. Max Munsey even
said today, all they want to do is get under

(08:24):
your skin.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's like I could have been your sports psychology. Yes,
I said that last night in the show, like five
times you are falling for everything. They know exactly how
to push your buttons. The Padres forget about the big
brother little brother. The Padres are the teenager that knows
how to push the buttons of the parrot.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right, I know exactly.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know my mom has been stewing all day to
tell me something, but I know what to say. When
I walk in the house. It's gonna get her off
her game, and we're gonna go back and forth on stuff.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
That's what we see. And you know what, while it's
really weird and it seems a little dirty, it's not
quite what major League Baseball is. This is fantastic theater.
It is absolutely New York. They're love it every minute
of it. They don't like the water bottles and idiots
running on the field or whatever. But you know, Dave
Roberts trying to inspire his guys a little bit. As

(09:10):
we talked about last night with the they tried to
hit me, it was intentional. We're gonna file the report
all of that stuff, you know, getting into the emotion
and trying to tap into the Dodgers' emotion because we've
talked about it a lot. You've seen not a lot
of juice outside of anybody but Otani and that home
run by Tao scar Huge, the home run by Mookie Betts,

(09:32):
maybe that on Courts and maybe a home run yesterday
would have gotten things started, but took it away or
i should say Sunday, and we watched it escalate from there.
But when you're talking about these kind of rivalries, and
it took forever for the Red Sox to finally win
something of substance, right in grandiose fashion, no question about it.
But we had years of Sunday night baseball, and here's

(09:54):
all the rivalries, and here's all the data points and
crossover points of this guy going from one uniform to
the other, all of that same thing here. Now it's
just you know, on a micro but growing and quickly
in the proximity of things, and all the ticket sales
restrictions and everything just adds to kind of the legend

(10:15):
of it all. And for the Padres, let's face it,
they're playing I hate the term house money, but everything's
on the Dodgers, right, everything and Phillies right, everything.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Dogs and everything on that. That's all on those three teams.
The Mets are playing with house money, the Padres playing
with house money. The Royals are playing with house money.
Tigers are playing with house money. Even the Guardians are
because no one's gonna say, but the Guardians had such
a great record.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. Here's the thing, and not any
of those teams, forget it. Stop trying to pass off
the Guardians as one of the Big four. Stop. But
growing up as the middle of three boys, I recognized
pretty early. If things got rowdy and on of swords,
who was getting in trouble the older brother in this case,
brother being the Los Angeles Dodgers are gonna get all
the criticism. And although there's a recent report, recent study

(11:00):
that says the middle child is most likely to go
to prison. Sure, Jan, I wish I could have done
the margin brady face when I said, if you go
to prison, I actually I know exactly what you go

(11:22):
to prison for.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I know exactly you go to prison. I will find
out at Frostburg. Tell me if you think this right
in front, Harmon going to prison? I used to think
maybe a road rage incident, but now no, uh yeah,
sure that don't.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Give you all right, Harmon was Harmon goes to prison
for something involving counterfeit or some sort of chicanery involving
signed memorabilia or cards. Okay, that's how you go. That's
how you wind up going to prison for how long
are we talking? Well, that's like a that's like a

(11:55):
five to seven year stint problem. Well, I mean in
today's in today exactly what you're gonna hate? Hey, hey,
in today's world, I'd get a longer stay in a
in the pen than most folks that do violent and
other crimes. What's wrong with federal pup prison radio? Tmz

(12:17):
he I radio radio host has been bilking people for
years with counterfeit cards. And it'd be a picture of
you with your hat on backwards, screaming into the microphone.
And then he would say, oh, that guy completely looks
like someone who would who would steal cards.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
And he has he keeps all the real sign uh
jockstraps and cause everybody fake ones.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, he's got his kid, That's that's how he makes
his money.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Well, you don't know is he's got both of his
kids practicing signatures of Hey, practice this. Alex Rodriguez would
practice this Derek Jeter signature that all he wants to
looks good, looks.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
You're flying, you're flying close to the sun. I mean
some of these stories resemble things that have been played
out in the media before. Hey, it's not my fault.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Your daughter texted me o the day saying, hey, how
does Alonzo spell his last name?

Speaker 3 (13:05):
I'm just just for I don't know. I just don't worry.
I just want to know how he's like a spellman?
Or is it with an S? Or is z I
don't understand should we be worried about that? No, I'm
just I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I mean, look, I I don't know if this is
going to spark an investigation of any kind. I'm just
saying you talk talked about you brought up middle child.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Most likely go to prison. I told you the crime
like going to commit to throw it back at me,
but you know that that's the nature of your way
as a an only child out at other people like you.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Said, you're the one that brought it up. Like, okay,
if you go to prison, how are you gonna go
to prison?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
All right? Hey, like just think about it. How many
years is he facing for texting your daughter? No, she
texted me first, then I text about it. I don't
know if it works. Like that's fine. No, she's over eight,
it's fine.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
That's not the point of this whole thing.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
The point is whole thing is that I know exactly
why Harmon would go to prison because he would tell.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
People, yeah I got hold, I got bus wagon, Yeah
I do. Actually I did them all at some point
that someone claimed was Babe ruth. I've never bothered to
have it authenticated. But it's sitting in a box.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Exit Now about risca exit swollen dumb the Jason Smith
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We'll have more baseball throughout the night. Again, a one
run lead for the Padres over the Dodgers. And this
game is only in the fourth inning. Yeah, but coming
up next we get into the biggest NFL story of
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(14:38):
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Speaker 3 (14:41):
Son Reddick back, Well, that would be the fourth biggest story.
Though maybe now he comes back. I don't know. Maybe
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him come back in we get Davonte Adams and we
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(15:02):
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Speaker 3 (15:51):
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Speaker 3 (15:57):
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Speaker 1 (16:00):
Heyo Tani batting in the top of the fifth inning,
nobody out padres still with a six to five lead.
Freddie Freeman on the last play of the bottom of
the fourth on a double play, had to jump in
the air to grab the ball, came down on his
bad ankle, kind of limped off the field. Now there's
no update on Freddie Freeman, who we didn't know if

(16:21):
we were gonna see him in this series at all,
but surprise, he's playing tonight. But he did have to
limp off the field, and now we don't know what
a situation is. We're waiting to hear. But he didn't
need any help off the field. He just kind of
limped his way off the field. He's coming up pretty
soon because he's hitting third, so it's gonna be Otani
and Betts and then Freeman sold know pretty soon.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
But the first half of this game, he's got He's
had to his work right at first base. There's been
a lot of plays, balls hit down the line, balls
that he had the field, obviously the one with the
throw Machado. And it goes back to conversations because there
were two plays already that had conversations about bass pats
on when Mookie thought he'd gotten got uh and kind
of started going back towards the Doug. I was like, no, no,

(17:04):
go finish your home run trot. And then obviously Machado
running on the grass. But whatever. But we've seen Freeman
have to make a number of plays, and then this
one he just goes, he skies it, high points the
ball and comes down awkwardly. So we'll find out in
short order here there.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Has been already. It's it's a it's a Greek tragedy.
Already for four innings of baseball, and we're still on
the top of the fifth again. Padres lead the Dodgers
six to five, although Shoheo Tani doing his best to
make it six ' six. He flies out to the
wall for the first out in the fifth inning.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Credit to both managers though they haven't blinked yet. Both
starters still going yeah, well, well, and no one's throwing
a ball at either of the managers yet not yet,
No li still early. Hey shull, let's see how fast
you are if I throw this ball at you. Let's
see if you can move huh.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Well, Dave Roberts's life is still flashing before tell.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Sho almost murdered me on the field of the baseball.
But the big NFL story of the day, look, I mean,
I really the Jets and the message stories up until now.
The Jets fire Robert Sala as head coach, and there
has been no shortage of craziness in the ensuing hours.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
If you remember.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
First thing I want to say is we told you
last night Monday was going to be high nun If
the Jets had a bad game against the Bills and
the offense was bad, either Robert Sala or Nathaniel Hackett.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Or both were going to be fired.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Right even though the Jets don't usually make changes middle
of the season, doesn't happen. It was gonna happen. Well,
he noon came a little early for Robert Sala. Wod
he Johnson said he decided to fire Robert Sala. Came
in this morning fired Sala. Sala said he was taken aback,
really surprised, wanted to address the team one more time.

(18:52):
Jhonson says no, and he is escorted from the building
by security.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
So no, no, no. What I'm saying escorted by security
is he was walked out? Was he actually in the
full extent of the term escort It as in, let's go.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
This is not like you know, he's got his hand
got the guy's got their hands on his arms. It
was instead of hey, we trust you to get your
stuff and go like this is what you hear, This
is a power play. This is what year happens with
any employees that people think might be problems or on
the way out.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
They're gonna do this.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
We're gonna have a security guard with you as you
gather your belongings and stuff. It's embarrassing, Like, did you
need to do that for the guy? It's not like
the guy was a bad head coach. Right, we'll get
We'll get into it in a second. The guy was
a bad head coach, I understand, but there's not one
second where I thought he was trying to to be divisive,
to try to sabotage the team. He was just a
bad head coach. You could let the guy say goodbye

(19:47):
to the team, or at least say goodbye to the coaches,
and then move on. At the very least, do you
really need to escort him out?

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Do you?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I mean, I guess you want to make sure he
gets out of the building. But when you say no,
you can't address the team. And here's a you know, Mitch,
who if you said hi to you know, swiping your
key card the last three and a half years, Mitch
is gonna walk you to your car.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Hey, Rob, how you doing?

Speaker 4 (20:08):
So?

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I gotta do this, but you know that's how it goes. Boss, says,
I gotta do it, all right, So grab your crap,
let's go. Come on, guy, I got a new head
coach to bring it here, all right, come on, come on,
come on, come on, come on, let's go. Come on,
rub come on, rob come on. But that's just it.
There's been conflicting reports as to the escorting and what
it really meant, like whether it was just a guy
walking with him who happened to be its security guys
versus a hey hey Robert, no, no, no, hey, hey, tell

(20:31):
it walking Robert. There's so many little layers to this
and trying to parse out what's truth and what's fiction.
Right the report that no, I completely believe that Woody
Johnson had security had him roberts, because that's a typical
Jets thing to do, Like that's all Jets. Yeah, you
gotta get out, We got to plan. We got a
game Monday night, all right, I say we, because I

(20:51):
still work here and you don't. All right, so let's
grab your grab your crap, let's go, grab your stuff.
Let's go. Oh and by the way, yeah, I know
I asked you to come in to my kid, you know,
if to do the whole thing. The speech for the
for the whole you know, uh uh work week that
you don't worry about that anymore. I'm gonna get Elbrick
to do it. Okay, it's not worry about it. We're
all good. But let's go. Come on, we gotta go,
we gotta go, we gotta go. Come on, I got
coffee to make, I got stuff going on. We gotta
coffee to go. Let's go. Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Look, So that's a typical Jets thing to do. And
it's it's it's weird today because I've had to hear
and see a lot of people suddenly opining about the
Jets when they know nothing about what's going on. And
it's weird because I think, huh, is this what other
people think when people talk about their teams and and
and they disagree with what's going on.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
But all you've seen is all the Jets are a
dumpster fire. The Jets are a tire fire. There were
reports that Robert Sala wanted to fire Nathaniel Hackett. Yeah,
and then potentially Woody Johnson didn't want that, and that's
she decided to fire Robert Sala. You have the whole
thing I mentioned with a security guard.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
There's a lot of craziness with the Jets, and there's
a lot of tire fire stuff. So to say the
Jets are a tire fire, Yeah, they've always been. This
is not anything new. However, let's be honest. This is
a move that had to happen. Okay, this was a
good football move. This was not This was not something
that oh, look at the Jets like like like the

(22:08):
Jets are five and oh and they fired their head coach.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
It'd be the Jets starting five and oh. I mean,
but they needed to do this.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
They needed something because it wasn't going to get better,
right because Robert Sala again go back to what I
first said, he is a bad head coach. And there
was nothing, no positive vibes with the team. There was
nothing that even sense. Did you think, Oh, Robert Sala
is gonna turn this thing around. He has become such
a diminished person and character with the Jets over the

(22:35):
previous few months. As Aaron Rodgers character and importance has inflated,
Robert Sala's importance has decreased to the point where, okay,
if you and the quarterback kind of don't see eye
to eye, whether it's about the cadence, whether it's about
and excuse your unexcused trip to Egypt, whatever it is,
whatever it is, you are no longer the guy. And

(22:56):
when that happens and you are underachieving like this, I
love the move.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
Today. The Jets showed guts, they showed we're not gonna
wait another week. We're not gonna put another potential loss
out there before we make a change. Because quite honestly,
it's smart to do it today, because, all right, it
was a long week. You have a long week to
go to the game on Monday. You have an extra day,
You have an extra day to do things. Whereas if
you wait till after Monday, well what do you do? Then?

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Then you have Monday, then you have a short week,
then you're firing your head coach, and then you have
a short week to get to Sunday. Right, So this
was actually the right time to do it. So, yes,
both things can be true. The Jets are a dumpster fire,
and they are, and they clearly they are, but this
was something done to get them out of that. Yes,

(23:39):
is Aaron Rodgers not playing well, No, he's not playing well.
Is Joe Douglas the greatest GM? No, but he's a
pretty good GM because he got the right players. He's
a pretty talented roster. But Robert sala is a bad
head coach, right, I told you for a long time.
Robert sala is a guy who has been a glorified
defensive coordinator since he came in right number one, he's
been a glorified defensive coordinator. Offense has never been good.

(24:01):
You're going on three plus years of not having a
good You can't do that. You can't go three years
in your offense sucking right, you can't do it. He
has an inconsistent character during the game. When things are
going well, he's jumping up and down and body high
fiving people. And when things aren't going well, he's bitter
with his arms crossed, and he's got a bad he's
got a bad energy about him.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
You gotta show teammates that you're the same guy, win
or lose, that's who you are. These are all things.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
And then don't even get me into the penalties and
the undisciplined aspect where the Jets still get called for
undisciplined penalties, they still make too many mistakes.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
And again, when you're in three plus years of it,
you know what, Sorry when you see it's not gonna work.
You have to make a move, and the Jets made
the absolute right thing by doing it today because it
wasn't going to get any better. Now are they gonna
get better? Now?

Speaker 1 (24:46):
This is where this is the big unknown. But I
know one thing for certain. It wasn't gonna get better.
If this is the way they were going, wasn't gonna
get better? Who was gonna stay bad?

Speaker 3 (24:53):
But that's the jumping off point to the next part
of the conversation, because I think we all anybody that's
watched the last three plus years said this is He's
becomes one of the poster children for coordinators elevated beyond
their level of competence and history in the NFL is

(25:15):
littered with them of guys that were great on one
side of the ball and then had to take the
reins as a head coach and it failed. And what
the only other other option, and we joked about it
long ago, was hey, you just trade Rogers away and
send him where he's he's in Nevada. But we did
that before the season, So that's that's not an option

(25:36):
at this point. But you're not getting rid of him,
like he calls the shots for Woody Johnson, and Johnson,
to his credit, you know, wanted all the credit for
the firing without Hey, I talked to Aaron, and Aaron
had thoughts or I talked to this guy. Nope, wasn't
going my friends, wasn't gonna fire. But then Aaron called
me last night and said, hey, what do you think. Oh,

(25:58):
I never thought about I'll fire him tomorrow morning. You
right when I get it. But you go through right,
the discipline, even on the defensive side. You saw a
lot of penalties that that got called, you know, especially
this last game. A discipline certainly an issue, but offensively,
does it solve anything. No, But there's just that that

(26:19):
stink hanging in the air, right, that has been there
for a long while. Why did he get another bite
at the apple? Well, in theory, it was because Aaron
Rodgers is going to be the quarterback and Aaron Rodgers
hasn't been good. We all, we all stipulate to that.
It's you know, the stats bear it out right, They've
scored as many points through this point in the season
as they did with Zach Wilson a year ago. Well, Look,

(26:41):
it's it's it's it's not Robert Solid does have good
points about him. He was just a bad head coach.
Like I said, glorified defensive quarter. What did he do?
He built a pretty bleeping good defense. He's been a
two plus year thing. Right, It's a pretty good system
that he's got going on with it. And if Reddick
had actually who knows, they could have been better, you
will get him now, maybe show maybe maybe they would

(27:02):
have beaten everybody, Maybe they would have beaten Denver. And
now all of this is avoided. So what I'm waiting
for if greg the leg actually hits a fifty, you know,
like every other bleeping kicker in the National Football League, it's.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
He built a great defense. And I can understand the
Jets philosophy of Okay, so we were supposed to have
this year last year.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
It didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
If we if we make a change, what is that
going to what is that going to do? And I
understand wanting to come in, Hey, let's keep the same group.
We're staying another year in the same systems, even though
it's going to be different with Rogers. I completely understand that.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
But it's a short hook because it has to be
because you're built for this year with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Right, you're not built for it. If it doesn't work
this year. Jordan Travis is the quarterback next year. Who oh,
by the way, the worst Florida State looks, the better
he looks as a player. So you're built for this year.
You can't you can't come into this. That's why this
was something that I wasn't surprised by. I told you
he was gonna happen next week. It happened a week early.
There's still so much football left. If the Jets win
next Monday against Buffalo, they're tied for first place in

(28:01):
the AFC East. Right, everything is still there even if
they lose. Yes, you're two games back, but you're talking
about four and two versus two and four. There's still ten,
ten eleven weeks of football left to go. So they
did it early enough to where we want to be
able to build something going forward. And now you're gonna
see a team that plays a little more energy. You're
gonna see teams that play with a little more a
different idea of how to do things offensively. I'm sure

(28:23):
Rogers is gonna take a bigger role in the offense,
and that's gonna be good because what did the Jets
ask Aaron Rodgers to do come in, cover up all
our ills, cover everything else up that we can't do, right,
So cover this up for us. Okay, this is what
I think we should do offensively. All right, let's listen
to them, I mean quite to be honest, who do
you want to listen to about about it and listen
to when it says, hey, let's fix the offense. Do

(28:44):
we listen to Robert solid that knows not the first thing?
That what are they saying the broadcast Sunday this year?
Decided to go to quarterback meetings? Dude, three and a
half years. It's the first time you want to go
into quarterback meeting?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
What the hell?

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Man?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I mean, Jamie Ardell had that report. I'm like, that's
that's just the biggest thing. O. Yeah, I'm gonn go
to quarterback meetings now.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Oh now now that you actually have teran quarterback, I mean, hey,
what you just decided I'm going to take my notebook
and I can learn something. Who do I want to
as opposed to you know, I'm the coach supposed to be
embarting some wisdom here? Do I want to listen to to?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Robert Sala try to figure out the offense when the
office has been terrible for him two and a half years,
or a Hall of Fame quarterback that maybe the best
guy throwing the football that we've ever seen. Yeah, I'm
gonna listen to Aaron ro I'm okay with listening to
Aaron Rodgers on that. No one will be saying this.
It wasn't if it was Tom Brady. Well, of course
you're listening Tom Brady. Why would you want to listen
to Aaron Rodgers because football? The guy really knows what
blanke he's talking about. I know there's anybody that knows

(29:37):
more about playing quarterback in the history of the game
than Aaron Rodgers. This is all mental stuff. Now this
is not physical on the field. That's a different conversation.
But mentally, there's nobody who knows more about the position
than him. You see him talk about it, you go,
oh wow. It's like it's like watching Einstein try to
do some sort of mathematical equation. We're seeing Matt Damon
up at the board and Goodwill hunting. Oh, he figured

(29:58):
it all out. So yeah, I'm gonna listen to Aaron
rodd It's not a bad thing. It's not a tire
fire because you're listening to Aaron Rodgers. It's you want
to listen to your best player.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Right.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
If the Cowboys are listening to Dak Yeah, if the
Ravens are listening to Lamar Jackson, Yeah, this is that's
kind of how it goes. The Bengals listening to Joe Burrow,
and they should listen to Joe Burrow. Everything would be fine.
But oh, the Jets listen.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
To Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
All the thought out was thought, No, it's just a
way because the Jets have been a punchline. It's a
way to say, oh, they're a tire fire. Yes, their
a tire fire, but they did the right thing today.
Both things can be true, right, just that both things
can be true.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
But the other part is you have to rip the
band aid off at some point and you can't keep
limping along. Okay, so what if you did beat Buffalo? Okay, sure,
cosmetically it's great, and talk about the division, et cetera.
Have you solved anything? Say you win that game thirteen
to ten or seventeen fourteen. Does that say, all right,
our offense is fixed and everything's great. No, and your

(30:51):
bye week isn't until around Thanksgiving, right, you got another
five six weeks before you're seeing your bye, which is
kind of a dope be scheduling thing, seeing as Minnesota
immediately gets to take theirs after the lunch. But if
you're not any faschings, you gonna play three games in
eleven days and then you're gonna go to London. They're

(31:13):
gonna play a game the next week. Well, and then
you get Buffalo and then and then you get Sunday
Night foot Yeah, good luck. Thanks guys, thanks for that.
So for anybody who says the NFL is fixed, oh
of course they want Jets and Aaron Rodd Now, they
wouldn't be doing this to them. They wanted them on TV,
So I mean, we get that. Guys who really thought
you were gonna be we want to see Aaron suffer.
We really thought you're gonna beat the Broncos, and we

(31:33):
didn't think Minnesota was going to be any good, so
we gave it early in the year. But you know
how it goes, Uh time now to find out what's
trending in the wide world of sports. From a guy
who's getting absolutely zero work done tonight, it's Padres fan
Brian Finley.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
That's how you introduced me. Well, I guess then I'll
say Mets Finn Jason Smith.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Yeah, but I'm actually working. You're getting no work done.
How would you say that because my game is over
and your game is still going on. If my game
was going on and be saying I'm not gonna work,
I want to watch a game, Brian Felly's gonna touch
crazy stuff for two and a half.

Speaker 5 (32:03):
You know that you're a good multitasker, you know I am.
You will do interviews and it's incredible how you listen
and then you tweet what they're saying at the same time.
That's impressive. So you know, if you can multitask here
in the newsroom, we can do that as well because
we're watching different games happening at once and reporting on
them at the same time.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Okay, what's the score of any other game except for
the Padres Dodgers.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
The Utah Hockey Club is of one one nothing against
the Chicago Blackhawks in the first period.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Fair looking at the front page of ESPN dot com
and seeing with the first score that's no.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
It refreshed beautifully in that moment. How sometimes guys get
caught with the refresh.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
You guys do realize that we have multiple TV monitors
here of live sporting events happening, So it's not as
if I'm not paying attention to what's going on live too.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
There is that part as well. He's given you a
full theatrical I am. It's like, I'm like, he's gotta
do jazz hands at the end of it.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Like an orctra conductor or something like that. But yeah,
that Padre game, it's still six to five right now.
The pods are in front, and this is a game
that is to the top of the six. The Padre
score all six of their runs in what would be
the second ending that included a Fernando Tatis home run.
This game is on FS one and his Game three

(33:20):
NLDS and the Padres and Dodgers all tied up at
one in this best of five matchup. No longer the
case tied up at one and another NLDS Game three,
thanks to the New York Mets rooming past the Philadelphia Phillies,
is seven to two, so that puts the Mets up
two games to one in the series. Pete Alonso got

(33:41):
the scoring started with a solo home run and after
the game, he had this to say about where his
team stands.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
I just want to come through any any chance I get.
I mean, this is the playoffs, this is the highest stakes,
and during the entire offseason and spring training, in the
entire year, you work really hard to get here, and
I just want to be able to capitalize on whatever
moments I'm given and uh and just do the best
I can for my.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Team right now.

Speaker 5 (34:08):
Lastly, guys, NHL regular season, it is a day one
Utah Hockey Club. I know you guys are watching this
one One nothing in favor of the Blackhawks. That's in
the with about nine minutes to go in the first period,
One nothing with the Utah Hockey Club ahead, and then
two finals quickly Blues three to two winners against the
Kraken and Jason your Panthers winning six to four against

(34:31):
Mike Harmon's Bruins. So we had three games on that
NHL regular season game.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
The Blackhawks scored nine times, and now I get signed
a different squad.

Speaker 5 (34:40):
It's not what's wrong with having two teams in the
same Verry Sports League.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
That's the new same profession. Well I'm not normal then, okay.
Dodgers fan Brian Finlely. Sure, thank you much. You have
two teams Southern California.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Yeah, let's randomly assign you another teams. I'll be in
that Sodgers.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Thank you very much, sir. The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon Live TI Studios. So we have more on
the Robert Solid Jets situation coming up. But straight ahead,
how about a big quarterback change today? That's next, Jason
to Mike.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
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Speaker 1 (35:44):
Mike and I love putting this content out for you
every single day. Still a six ' five lead Padres
over the Dodgers Padres coming about here in the bottom
of the sixth inning. We'll have more baseball coming up
in a few minutes. But on the heels of Robert
Salad getting fired by the Jets today, we'll love more
in the Aaron Rodgers angle on this Drake May. The

(36:04):
time has happened for the Drake. The Drake is now
going to play. Drake May the final or the next
to last first round quarterback we're gonna see play. He
will now take over at quarterback for the Patriots. So everybody,
New England, just calm the blank down, do you love?
Just calm the blake down. Calm down. He's playing now.

(36:27):
Everything is fine. Mutiny with the Patriots, everybody, just calm
the blank.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
That was a great story. They forced it out of
a podcasting.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
I mean, come on, now, let me just say something
that I really did not like saying for the past
twenty four years, but I'll say it now. The Patriots
have done this thing right. They have done it right.
They're under no aspersions of grand no delusions of grandeur.
They know we're gonna stink. Yeah, Look, they played one

(37:00):
of the worst football games you'll ever see. And I
don't mean like because they played so bad. I just
mean why you can tell they have no talent, and
neither do the Dolphins.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
That game was terrible. Uh, look, we're not going to win.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
This is a year of starting over seeing what we
have with a new head coach and a new quarterback.
We don't want to put the new quarterback out there
until we think that maybe we have the offensive line
working enough to where, hey, we can put him out
there and not worry about him getting his shoulders separated. Now,
Jacoby Brissett is still getting sacked five times a game,
but still they decide to make the move now, and

(37:33):
I like it because it's well, I'm sure you're looking
for a soft spot in the schedule to say this
would be a great time for Drake May to get
his NFL debut. But the defenses you're coming up against, Hey,
turns out they're a little bit better than you thought. Right,
Minnesota's gonna be better than you thought. You have the Jets
coming Uh oh, all right.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Well here, okay, you know what this is as good
as it's gonna be to put him in, right, you
have to put him. And Houston is even with the record,
they've been gettable down field. We've seen that at times.
Jacksonville they got their first win, but they're still give
up chunky yardage. You can go and have some success.
Nothing able to put any natural pressure on guys. So

(38:10):
maybe after two weeks and they talk about in practice,
how he's seeing things better, he's getting rid of the ball,
and we'll see what happens when his feet of put
to the fire. Because certainly that stretch run against the Jets,
I thought that was coaching, man. I thought, I like,
unless Brissett just said physically, I'm done for the night, guys,
there was no reason that Drake may should have showed
up in that game. Yeah, I mean here we are.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
Yeah, look and you have the Vikings and the Broncos
have better defense than you thought they were gonna have. Okay,
so they put him in. Now the Patriots are doing
it right. This is a first round pick, a high
first round pick. It takes them five weeks, but he started.
This is how it goes.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
This is fun Patriots, and just everybody calmed down because
for the from twoenty to twenty twenty, everything was unbelievable.
Just bleep and relax and understand those days are gone.
They're not coming back. Hope you enjoyed two decades of excellence.
This is the new reality for the Patriots. You are
starting over. Yes, you think everyar we're gonna reload, we'renna great,

(39:09):
We're gonna get Mac Jones, We're gonna do this that.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
No, now we got a new head coach. No, this
is what happens when you go back to the bottom.
Bill Belichick made short to tell you, hey, there is
no talent on this roster at all.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Good luck. So you're Jones should sue it. You're building
up from the bottom, right, So but what he did
do them Wait till he's coaching Mac Jones next year
and and Jacksonville.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
So uh, this is just everybody's gotta and everything in
New England, everything around this and the and the mutiny
and the players off. Just understand, this is different than
anything I know. You're used to a certain way and
certain expectations. They're all gone. This is all starting from
the ground up. This is how you do it. And
I can't belie him saying the Patriots are doing and

(39:51):
they have done it the right way with Drake May. Yeah,
I still would have been like patients, a little more patience.
Little did we trust our offensive line? It not really,
but we're not gonna it's not gonna get any better.
Like that's the other thing. It's not gonna get any better.
So unless you're just gonna red shirt him all together,
you might as well look at those AFC South back
to back games and say, hey, we've got a shot

(40:13):
and see what he can do.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Look like I said, you know, I'm telling you the truth.
I tell you I hate the Patriots doing it the
right way. They're doing this right. Just understand, zero expectations
is where you need to go. As long as they
don't go on to hire a former defensive coordinator to
be a ZC, we'll be okay.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
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