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You know, I've written four really brilliant monologues in the
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Okay, all right again, sports, if the that's blow this
lead and I scream and I lose my voice, well
then it's on me and then it's on you.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well, but then I would argue that you were a dope.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
You could you could tell me all about that great
caught stealing play the White Sox had tonight. Oh my goodness,
oh my terrible. What do you want, dude? That was
a little league play where what you didn't get a
throw home and the guy got a second but the
runner on when you have runners at first and third
and we kind of you let the runner from first
deal second because you're probably not gonna throw them out.
(01:29):
You don't want the guy to score from third. You
read it off White, Sox threw the ball down a second.
Not only do they not get the guy at second
runner scored from third. That is a That is a
ten year old little league plays, I argue failed to
execute tonight.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
As I argued yesterday on the show with Rich Hornberger
in your stead, Doctor Rich came and gave us a
house call. I argued that if you're gonna fail, fail spectacularly.
Now twenty seven and seventy five. Yeah, the scene, we're
no longer at Carlton Fist day, we've gone by.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, you may be stuck at twenty seven for a while,
could be. I mean, I don't know that it's not yet.
It's all of a sudden not gonna be a FATA
completely well, twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty wins, but it's
the all right, let's go after the sixty two Mets. Yeah,
why not anything worth doing.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Let's get it passed at two thousand and three Tigers
straight past sixty. We got a guy named Chucky behind
the plate now, so it's great.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
We also now have the I would say today the
beginning of all the training camp drama. As teams are
getting set to report, we're finding out who's showing up,
who's not showing up. And boy is this gonna be
fun because in the last hour we've got the news
CD Lamb will not report to Cowboys camp.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
He wants a new contract.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Ceedee Lamb, who is, at worst, whatever your opinion, is
the third best receiver in the NFL. This number one.
It's gonna be fascinating because you know Jerry Jones being
all in on this season. But second, it's just I
think of the Cowboys when you think of what the
offseason they've had, right, just.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Think about this for a second.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I think about like with McCarthy and you know, trying
to put out orders and Jerry Jones is kind of
usurping him by putting out his own orders, and the
Cowboys don't know him. No one knows which way the
team is going, how the team is being run, Who's
in charge of the team, And I kind of feel
like the Cowboys have turned into Season one of the Bear.
Remember in the pilot episode when when you know Ritchie
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and and Carmi you're fighting over who's going to control
the restaurant.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, and Karmi keeps.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Saying no spaghetti, no spaghetti, No, it doesn't sell, no spaghetti,
And Richie keeps saying, no, go make the blanket spaghetti.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
We need spaghetti.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I feel like McCarthy's hey, no, no, no spaghetti, nos
spcgaht no, go make the spaghetti. Man, are we making spaghetti?
And everybody in the kitchen's going, I don't know, it's got.
We're making this spaghetti. We're not making this bad. I
don't understand. That's the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
That's cost efficiency and optim optimal conditions. And right now, yes,
it's I'm guessing a game of three card Monty being
played between Steven Jones and Jerry and there's three cards.
There's a CD Lamb guard, there's a Micah Parsons card,
and there's a Dad Prescott and they played best out
of five. This best out of twenty seven this is
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best out of nine thy ninety four. Now this one
tells me I gotta pay dak.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
This this and why is this story better than all
the others Because we've told you from the beginning what
Jerry Jones's strategy was going into the season. Right, we
all know about the all in stuff, and we tak hey,
his all in means I'm not spending on twenty twenty
five or twenty twenty four. I'm all in on this season.
And then then figured out what people don't understand is
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that there are gonna be big, sweeping changes with the
Cowboys after this season, because the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Aren't going to be good.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
It's gonna be a new head coach, it's gonna be
a new quarterback, it's gonna be a new everything. And
Jerry Jones doesn't want to get locked into any more
contracts than he has to Ceedee Lamb holding out. Michael
Parsons wants a new deal. He's already spent so much
bad money, and he has said time and again this
all season, I'm gonna be around a long time.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
He doesn't need to go I need to go to
the quick fix and try to get in here. No,
I'm gonna be around a long time.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
This is a This is the dreaded bridge season for
the Dallas Cowboys because people don't understand just how different
things are gonna look next year. He could he could decide,
I'm gonna go get Bill Belichick. He could decide I'm
gonna go get Aaron Rodgers because the Jets have cut
whatever it is. This is what's going to happen. And
why this is fascinating is because Jerry Jones does not
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want to pay CD Lamb, doesn't want to pay anybody.
He don't want to pay anybody until off season twenty
twenty five getting into it. And now CD Lamb has
called the bluff, saying, you'll pay me because you love me,
and you drafted me, just like you paid Zeke, just
like you paid Dak the last time, just like you
pay everybody else. Right, you will pay me because you
love me. He is calling Jerry Jones's bluff that in
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the end, you're not gonna be able to get along
without me. You're going to give me money. And this
is where you're really gonna find out how dug in
Jerry Jones is on twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five.
And if you think he's suddenly gonna cave on CD Lamb,
let me just say remind you that he is now
okay with losing Dak Prescott.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
They didn't give it.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
They didn't didn't tign new deal, didn't ted. He is
a free agent after this y season is over. So
barring a big trip to the NFC title game, which
is not happening because the Cowboys is gonna stay. Uh,
he is gonna be somewhere else next year. And and no,
he has decided Dak his guy, Dak, Dak, Dak, Dak Dam.
I drafted Dak way after everybody else. Dak, who is
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his guy. He is not going to pay. He is
okay with losing Dak. Do you really think that means
suddenly CD well I gotta keep Cedee lamb.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Uh Huh. You think he's gonna cave for CD Lamb
because he always caves.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I'm telling him going against the grain with this, and
tell you that they figure out something that's a band
aid for this year, and that's the best CD Lamb
is gonna get.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
There's not gonna be a new deal.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's not gonna be some crad There'll be a band
aid for this year, and that's gonna be the best
we get and eventually Ceedee Lamb's gonna come in. He
is not going to win this with Jerry Jones. Jerry
Jones has decided this is the year I'm sticking to
my guns and we're gonna wait it out and get
to next season and then you are gonna see change.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Look at that he's got eighteen million that he's scheduled
to make this year. The Prescott thing is intriguing to
me just from the in the Giant Boy like they're
not gonna be bad enough to where you're at the
top of the draft. Right, you still have the Giants
and that train wreck that we've gotten to watch unfold
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on the offseason Hard Knocks profile. You've got the Washington Commanders,
who folks are trying to just, you know, figure out
one team that I'm gonna put it all here and
if it goes wrong, nobody's gonna care. But with some
good offensive weaponry there and a refurbished kind of identity
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that perhaps you know, they make a little bit of noise,
but really it's a two team race, assuming Sirianni and
Jalen Hurts get along over in Philadelphia that the Cowboys
are still viable in that wild card mode either way.
Dak Prescott, when we look at the pantheon of quarterbacks,
he may not be your favorite, but there's an awful
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lot of quarterbacks that are really, really not good in
this league. Right we talk regular season quarterbacks. You know,
I'm gonna start that list and see how many people
I can piss off between Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, and
then somewhere on that list is Dak Prescott. We'll go
through that as we go. But who are you finding
out there? Maybe Aaron Rodgers shakes feat, but do you
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want a forty one year old Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
No, you don't.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Look, and I'm not saying I think of all of
those three guys, I stay with it. If I have
to make my choice, I'm sorry. Micah Parsons is great,
Ceedee Lamb is great. Quarterbacks don't grow on trees. Well,
look you look at next year. Who's going to be available?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You are you looking to say Kirk Cousins likely is
going to be available next year? Okay, Okay, So Kirk
Cousins is likely any better than Dak No, But he's
gonna be a hell of a lot cheaper than Dak
would be. And you're talking about Dak's gonna get over
sixty million dollars a year like that, That's that's a lot.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Captain Kirk's the greatest businessman in the history of the NFL.
He ain't gonna be that much cheaper, No, but he
must play as reasonably well because Atlanta is another team
that people are firing on in terms of the betting
markets and what they've got in offensive weaponry. You remember
b Jhon Robinson will not be in you know, the
hell and the cell. He actually will get out and
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make plays for you. This time, you're you're going to
see the Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Wait, because there's always quarterbacks who are gonna wind up
being available. There's always guys who wind up but there
will be a couple off the top of my head
and say, Okay, they'll be available next year. This guy
will be available next year. Whether it's an upgrade or not,
they're gonna wind up being availed. Kyler Murray might wind
up being available, and Jerry Jones might love to go
get Kyler Murray. All the plays he's gonna make. We're
paying him a lot less there's gonna be guys out there,
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But Jones says he has long decided I'm not gonna
pay anybody. I mean, I'm not saying it's it's gonna
be said, but it will be. Hey, what can we
give you? How about an extra three million for this
year and you come in. That's the best he's gonna get.
That's about He's what it's. I feel like, boy, it
took Jerry Jones till he's eighty years old to figure out, Oh,
I can't just keep throwing bad money after bad money
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and extending guys because I drafted them, because they're really good.
They're still they're still reeling from paying Zeke four years ago,
four years ago when he sat out because I know
Jerry Jones wants to pay me.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
I know what's happened. I mean, there will be players.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Out in Mexico, remember we were here. That's breaking news, Like, Hey.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
There will be guys out there. There will be players
out there, there will be quarterbacks out there. And it
doesn't close the door on Dak. I'm not closed, but
it's the fact that Jerry Jones has opened it to
letting him leave. Okay, because the door is open and
It's like Jerry Jones is sitting in his in his
like it's like he's the dad and Dak Prescott's his
kid and Jerry they're gett an argument. Jerry Jones opens
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the door and says, you could leave her. You could
stay and you can walk out the door.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You could not.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Dak could still come back. Sure if he has a
big year he wants to be a Cowboy. Jerry Jones
will say wonderful things like I knew this is gonna happen.
We just had some business things last year, and now
look at what we're gonna do, and I'm I'm happy
to give Dak sixty five million dollars a year from that.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
That could still happen.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
It's not because A Dak's not that good and B
they're not going to the NFC Championship Game this year.
They'll Two playoff losses last year have done such damage
to Jerry Jones and his outlook on the Cowboys that
I'm sick of being twelve and five and going into
a playoff game and two years ago watching my big
quarterback play awful, where all you gotta do is put
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one touchdown on the board and maybe we win. And
last year, my quarterback is absolutely awful again and we
get torched by a guy who sat behind Aaron Rodgers
for three years and shows up in his first playoff
game and has got a perfect quarterback rating. I think
I can do better, and I think that's the biggest
thing that Jerry Jones like, this is what I'm going
(11:54):
to sit and sit back and remember when I don't
pay guys. We've had our quarterback hold us back from
the playoffs the last two years. I'm not going to
go crazy paying him, keeping with his iteration, because I
may have to do it all over again.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Man to do it again. Mike McCarthy might be out
in new Web coach next year.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
He's a surprised he's still there, to be honest with you,
even with the regular season success, I mean that lack
of preparedness for that playoff game was unconscidable, and Dak
Prescott got except on this show where we took the
baseball back to him immediately as we came out of
the weekend to not at least stem the tide. You know,
he got more or less a free pass because the
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defense was so putrid against Jordan Love and then everybody
tripping over themselves after all of their terrible takes about
Jordan love for the prior two and a half years,
suddenly it's the Hey cal to Sack, welcome back in
and now he's the greatest thing there is. But yeah,
for Jerry Jones, it's clearly that transitional year of playing
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wait and see. According to over the Cap, they've got
roughly twelve million dollars of cap space to work with,
so they certainly could break off a little bit for CD.
I am to at least let calmer heads prevail, get
him up into that territory whereby he feels a little
more comfortable. And later on we'll do that top five
ranking list because it's ranking season.
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Speaker 3 (16:22):
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I think you promised you were gonna do this and
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Speaker 3 (17:11):
Now. I'll buy a ticket for Jake Deecmon after saving
that game in the.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Night because the Mets and everything they could to give
that game to the Yankees, everything they could.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Every opportunity, every chance, and then Aaron Judge strikes out,
just stood there like a statue.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Well well, first of all, the Mets walked him the
first three times he came up because there was two out.
Nobody on, okay, we're gonna walk you. Look, but this
is just a point for a couple minutes on the Yankees.
Is that going into tonight JD. Davis was hitting cleanup
for them. Guy hadn't played since the fourth of July.
This is a guy that was on the Mets for
a few years. The Mets let him go. He did
okay with the Giants for a little bit. Then he
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went to the A's. The A's let him go. He's
been bouncing around the majors.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
This is the.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Guy the three hundred million dollars payroll New York Yankees
have hitting cleanup for them all right now. I understand
Rizzo's hurt. Stanton has hurt. These guys will be on
their way back. Stant's hurt, I no surprise. But this
shows you the mismanagement of the Yankees that this is
a couple of guys go out and this is who's
hitting clean up. A guy that hasn't played in twenty
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days is hitting clean up for you. He had a
double play, he struck out. I mean, this is the
stating when you talk about mismanaging the Yankees and why
there's for a team it's still twenty bleeping games.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Over five hundred.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
You know you're looking at the trouble they're in right now.
This is the mismatch a team with a three hundred
million dollars payroll, and these are the guys hitting clean
up for them right now.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
No, only a game and a half back of the Orioles.
Entering tonight's play. They take the l here and you
look at what as you get towards the All Star break,
you're talking about the clean up position. But now you're
still wishing and hoping that Stanton comes back, and that
not only once he's back, he stays in the lineup.
Rizzo's same thing. Injuries are now just a regularity. And
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then the starting staff got a great outing rode on yesterday,
but has been more inconsistent as the year has gone down.
Heels fantastic, we'll be Rookie of the Year. That was
one of the great broadcast bloopers of the night, comparing
him with Paul Skeens and as if they were in
the same league. I get it those interleague series might
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twist you up a little bit, but you're looking at
the starting rotation. There's not a lot of arms out
there to be had, and there's a lot of buyers.
I can't wait for the competitive market. Cashman got them
juiced a little bit when he went down with Steinbrenner
to that trip in Tampa a couple of weeks ago.
A little bit of a resurgence there, but they still
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have a lot of problems and holes to fill on
both ends on the pitching staff and in that lineup.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
How how are they still how are they still this close?
Because there's a lot of craps. They're selling everybody off.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
If they don't get hurt, going to have a team, right,
if they don't get hurt, they're selling everybody off. I mean, Baschett,
we'll see how he responds. The White Sox are what
they are. Tiger's only two games under. But you know
the big decision of do they play out, you know,
the noble run to try to make a wild card race,
or do they say, all right, we're kind of close,
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but let's sell off some of these component parts. The
A's are drawing eight attendance. They've actually won forty games.
The angel stink, which leads us to, you know, the
next topic of conversation. But there's a lot of bad
baseball being played in the American League, man, And then
we go and grab the Cubs and a couple other
teams in the National League, the the Marlins, et cetera.
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I mean, there are just future ball clubs out there.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Again, this show you how bad things are for the
Yankees that you're hitting. JD.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Davis clean up man. This is one of those look
in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Let's go out and get somebody fast, all right, because
you know when stant comes back, how long is he
going to be in the lineup? Rizzo's near the end,
like you spent all this money and your and that's
your cleanup hitter. I mean, come on, man, I mean
this is how are they seventeen games over five ons?
Speaker 5 (21:03):
How? How?
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I don't understand.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
I just chronicled it.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
There's a lot of really bad base but they're part
of the bad baseball well the.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Last few months. But they got out to a great run. Right.
The Dodgers are surging now, winners of four in a
row coming out of the the All Star Break.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
What did I curse the Red Sox? Red Sox might
have watch the Red Sox reel in the Yankees and
the Yankees ools are doing their part, yeah, because they're
not playing well. But boy, the Red Sox come out
of the break with four loss.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Those twos over the weekend? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Red Sox surprise division winner? Yeah about that.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
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Speaker 3 (21:46):
I think ever really okay, and I'm not even underestimatedn't it? Okay?
All right, guy, what do we got? You guys know
of a guy named Mike Trout? Remember that guy?
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Remember that? Oh yeah, yeah, sure Weatherman. It's about Weatherman Eagles.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Sure, he's taken over forro Macklhenny. Anyway, he's taken over
for Jalen Hurts, a quarterback. Nick Sirianni going to Trout
to save the job. No, he's gonna pretend he's a
son Reddick. We'll get to a son Reddick. We'll get
to u son Redick. Mike Trout was removed from tonight's
rehab game with left knee soreness and is considered day
(22:21):
to day. No, don't make stuff up, man, don't make
stuff up. No one's gonna believe that. By what I
mean by that, I mean everybody's gonna believe that.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
But it's funny, right. I brought it up yet with
doctor Rich and I said, hey, did you know tomorrow
he's gonna do a rehabizide. He goes, Nope. This was
a guy that we were once comparing to Mantle and
the greatest hitters of all time.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
That's right, two way player.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
He's a monster. He's a menace on the base pass.
Look at all these records he's gonna break. And then
he's getting ready to start a rehab assignment and you
would have never known it.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
No, that and then that is absolutely on brand. That
is absolute. Oh no, not even close. How many things
did he play for?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That would be two?
Speaker 4 (23:07):
That is yes, that is he didn't even get to
make it to an official major league game. But the
whole thing was he was gonna do just a quick
thing with the Bees. There's a lot of great video today,
signing autographs for kids, taking pictures, all of that stuff.
Mike Trout has always done that stuff very good, uh,
to fans, you know, at home and on the road
all these years. But the hope was that it was
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going to be a quick two or three day appearance
and then he was going to be back with the
big club. So Ardie Moreno could get people to sit
in those seats where you can get the sandwiches and
delivered so fast.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
That's gone. Sure, that's gone. Yeah, No, I know, I know.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Any word on Anthony Rendon.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Why you know, he still makes a headline once every
couple of months, like when he plays, like once, he
get one once every couple of months.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
What is he does?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
He normally says something.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Just kind of in it.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
What kind of bad interaction with a fan is Anthony
Rendon't had?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
That's good?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I'm gonna read about for five minutes on a blog
on sports not or we're dead Spinner, So what am
I gonna see?
Speaker 5 (24:06):
So?
Speaker 1 (24:07):
We have a lot of big NFL stuff coming up.
We got the Joe Burrow haircut, we have to get to.
We have who that horrible thing with the Jets? But
which one?
Speaker 6 (24:18):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
But we look like we're getting closer to eighteen games
in the NFL season, right, big story today that the
sides have again. I feel like this is kind of
like relationship wise, like, hey, we've talked about it as
superficially as we can before we have to start getting
really serious about it.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Like what I mean that was? That was the quote.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
We've talked about it as superficial, as as deeply superficial
as we can before. This is like when you come back, Oh,
well we had to talk about our relationship.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Well, is he going to commit to you? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
We talked as superficially as we possibly could, and now
he knows we have to talk serious. So I think
the next conversation, it's, oh my god, that's what's happening.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Called him deeply superficial.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
I mean, how do you have a We've talked about
this as superficially as you get.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
Now we're just spitballing like we're playing pool or hackey
taking a hacky sack. What are you gonna sake eighteen games?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Here's here's here's a little.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Bit of a zig instead of a zag on this story.
We're gonna get eighteen games. The NFL players are gonna
get something big, right, whether it is more healthcare, whether
it's gonna be more money.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
They get money. They're gonna get it.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I mean, at a minimum, they get a pile of money.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
The NFL is gonna say, wait, we're just gonna cut
out a preseason game and add a tack on again,
what you can't give you a lot for that? But
the NFL players will get a lot. But when I
think about the eighteen games, I'm not filled with as
much excitement as I thought I would. Be, right, because look, more,
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NFL is great, right, because with eighteen games. If your
team starts out owing to like my team always does, oh.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
You're a limit.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
You're done.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You're not owing to, You're not going about but eighteen
game James, Okay, I mixed more football, baby, let's go.
Roger Goodell has this vision that the Super Bowl is
gonna be played President's Day weekend, which again we've seen
many times. Having a big sporting event on a holiday.
Bad idea. But you go ahead, Roger, do what you want.
I'm just not filled with the overall excitement that I
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thought of now extending the season that's still gonna begin
in late August, first week of September, because because there's
questions like are they gonna add another bye weekend? But
Joe Burrow wants another bio of that game.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
But that's how like he brought that up a couple
of weeks ago in an interview. I mean, and that
that only makes sense, right, it's gonna if you're gonna
go down this way process.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Is extending the NFL.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I'm just not I'm just not filled with the excitement of, oh,
now the seasons ago till till the middle of February,
end of February. H Yeah, it's just no. I don't
think in this day and age, we want more sports.
I don't think we want our season. I don't think
fans want this seasons to be longer. Do they like
more of their sport? Yeah, But when you're saying, Okay,
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here's the season now, it's gonna be a little bit longer,
I don't think that's the slam dunk it would have been,
because we're already now we get football all the time, right,
you get football four nights a week, Right, we get
football Sunday night, we get it, Monday night, we get
it Thursday night. As a season goes on, we'll have
games on Friday. Now we have games on Saturday. We
don't get underserved for football. And during the week, okay,
(27:28):
during football season. I think that goes I think we
love that. I think we love games almost every other night.
But now you're saying, okay, there's gonna be less games
on Sundays, We're going to extend the season. I don't
see that being the fans going all right, like, yeah,
eighteen games, But hey, wait a minute, we're at Christmas
and there's still three weeks left in the regular season,
(27:51):
and more bye weeks I don't see that being the
big overall slam dunk they think it's going to be.
Doesn't mean that all of a sudden people are gonna
stop watching, but the excitement for football more.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
And more and more and more.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Eventually you get to that mass saturation point. And if
you're saying we're gonna extend the season now to the
middle of February, at the end of February, yeah, fans
are gonna go ooh, that's a lot of football. And
so maybe you're gonna see some Sunday night games, not
get the viewers some Thursday night games, because it's hard
to make that a priority all the way through to
so I'm gonna see all of these games. You gotta
(28:25):
start picking and choosing and lengthening. Anything isn't always going
to bring you more. Like if they wanted to add
another game during the week, like we're gonna add another
game on a Friday, WHOA, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
But to extend the season, I don't think they're gonna
get what they expect.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, I think for some of it, it just becomes
the proof of concept right year or two, and then
you get used to it. You're already in the preseason mode.
So if that game, one of those games becomes a
regular season game, I mean, what's the difference, right, and
you add the extra game, so now you actually have
separation in theory, the trade deadline gets that much better.
(29:01):
I'm trying to think about the overall fan experience, right. Sure,
you know where maybe you can cling on to hope
a little bit longer because the other teams in your
division are fading and you've got a GM that just says, hey,
I'm going for the downs and they go make a
big trade and go get ceedee lamb, you know at
the trade deadline since the Cowboys aren't going to extend
them or something of that nature. So you have that
(29:23):
part of it just from the football business of it.
And in the end, it's still king, right. You still
see even if you take a step back in ratings,
you're still crushing everything else. Right now, you split it across,
I mean, people are watching this inane hard knocks off
season stuff because it's just a clown show in a
(29:45):
million ways, Like the NFL still prints money left and right.
Where it gets nervous time is when you start talking
about you know, the attrition and how much potentially worse
it is with an extra game him in an extra
sixty opportunities for your quarterback Aaron Rodgers to get smashed.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Exit. How about a football exit? How about a football exit?
How about a fresh see are we ready for football
or outs? Kind of ready for the season exit? How
about a Foster Stadium exit? Swalling down The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Carmon coming up next.
You want numbers? Do we have numbers? Coming off a
huge game this week? That's next Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's Saul Hudson's birthday today. Happy Birthday, Saul, better known
as Slash. So maybe it's Guns and Roses night. You know,
Alex Tycher's not working tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
If we have Guns and Roses night not happening, Can.
Speaker 4 (30:49):
We play the ones with the curse words as far
as you know?
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Okay, good? How about one of the cursefield rants that
actually used to give.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Us getting the ring blank or blanker and I'll kick
your blanky little blank getting the range, the getting the rang.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
And then they did the math. They weighed like one
hundred and eighteen pounds each.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah, yeah, in this corner weighing eight hundred pounds. Well,
you got five guys in the band. None of you
goes two hundred pounds.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
At that point.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
You'd added a six because you had the keyboardist. You
had Dizzy. A big NFL story on the way in
about ten minutes. But you want to talk about crazy numbers.
The WNBA All Star Game from this weekend drew a
record number of viewers, crushing the old mark that was
set twenty one years ago.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
The old record two thousand and three had one point
four million viewers. This year three and a half million
viewers for the WNBA All Star Game on Saturday. And
it was some kind of event obviously we've seen it.
Saw the All Stars beat the Olympic team, and the
Olympic team rebounded.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
They want to. They beat Germany today, so now maybe
things are gonna be okay.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
But beat him soundly too?
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Boy? Was that embarrassed?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Was that an embarrassing look for the for the losers?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
What an embarrassing look? Right? Now?
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Here's the thing, and every everything I've read about this
today was and because of the excitement over this year's
rookie class that includes Caitlyn Clark, Angel Reese and others.
Can we say, you know what, Look, this is not
anything against Angel Reees. Angel Reese is a star player.
She's a WNBA star. She's very popular. She's a good
player already. She you know, she has shown as a
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rookie she's really good. Can we stop pretending that that
Angel Reeson any other rookie player is on the level
of popularity of Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
It's not.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, I know how I know this because Angel Reese
would have played more than seventeen minutes on Saturday if
people really wanted to see her. Caitlyn Clark played the
entire game. Why, because that's who everybody wants to see.
When she plays some place, they have to chan move
the game. It's like Babe Ruth and the Yankees barnstorming
in the twenties. Hey, we can't have this game at
this field. We got to have it in this big
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farmer's field where one hundred thousand people to come and
watch Babe Ruth hit a baseball for the Yankees and
the Yankees barnstorm across America. Can we just really stop.
I get, hey, we want to push the rookie class
and everybody else in the Red and the rookie players
coming in are good, right, there's some that are really good.
But can we just let's just give Caitlyn Clark the credit.
She's the reason why all of this is happening. But
yet nobody wants to do that. Like, I'm afraid, well,
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if you just say Caitlyn, that's an insult. No, you
can say this is because of Caitlyn Clark because it is. Okay,
that's just how it is. Now when it comes down
to you want to argue over how good a player
she is versus some of the other players, the moves, Yeah,
that's a different that's a different thing. We've seen her
grow greatly for the beginning of the year. She become
the best guard in the league. Should be on the
Olympic team. Angel Reese is someone who probably showed, hey,
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maybe she should be on the Olympic team too. You know,
she goes, she rebounds, she's Draymond Green right.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Rebound, really good rebounder.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
But you want to talk about popularity, let let let
let's let's understand that this is because of Caitlyn Clark. Okay,
And you can try to make up and look at Instagram,
follow a different thing, You can do all that you
want to. This is about one person. This is absolutely
about just about her. And I don't know why. I
feel like, well, if we don't say the other player's names,
no you don't. They don't say, hey, looked up the NBA.
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Look how piperl is with players like Lebron James and
Victor Webbina. No, no, no, nobody says last year, last
year's rookie class which was Victor Webbin Yama and other
great rookies are also having great Why.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Do we have to do this? Why?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Why do we have to do this? I mean, does
angelics get really mad at people if they don't say
her name?
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Really?
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Hey, how we don't bring up my name? I'm pop,
I'm really good. I mean understand, Caitlin Clark is the show.
She is the show. She's why all of this is happening.
It's all happening.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
No, And it's the curiosity, right of how you want
to term things, and you're trying to grow your sport.
And I think part of it is just the stumb
heness that we've seen along the way and reticence to
just attribute it to the Caitlin Clark effect. Look, the
numbers are there. They're averaging nearly seventeen thousand fans a game,
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as you said, moving to big arenas town after town.
Sky are doing some amazing things right. Their attendance is up,
and it doesn't take away from what Angel Reese has done. Right.
She's got a very large fan base and that should
not be denied by anybody or dismissed. They're just different scales, right,
different levels in terms of what is measurable as an impact.
(35:36):
And that game on Saturday was fantastic as we predicted.
Erique Agumbwale eighteen to one and the ballots right, eighteen
to one FVP shot. We joked about it Friday that
once she got in, she wasn't gonna stop.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
She didn't.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
There's your MVP. But go on down the line. Every
measurable is there all the way to the new TV
deal that people are still belly aching of at keep
the growth going and yes you'll be able to renegotiate.
That's how it works.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Seventeen WNBA games this year had viewership of more than
a million people. Caitlin Clark's been in fifteen of them.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Here you go.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
That's all you need. Coming up next, Yeah, we got
a big NFL story. You want to hear Jason and Mike.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
This is fun.