April 30, 2024 • 34 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to the Knicks taking a 3-1 series lead over the 76ers over the weekend and explain why one huge x-factor is impacting every NBA playoff series. NFL Insider Jason La Canfora joins the guys to reveal a surprising trade that may go down in the future. Plus, Jason has a bold prediction on Justin Herbert's future with the Chargers!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Give this you're.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Shh, it's so quiet you can barely hear it. Go
New York, go New York, go go New York, New.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
York, go go New York, go New York. Go go
New York O, New York O. Go New York O New York.
Go go New York O New York. Go go New
York O New York.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Co.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The Knicks are here to save the NBA playoffs, Mike Harmon.
They're here to save it. Save them from one and
the Lakers going out from kads out.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Porzingis is her. They're gonna save the NBA playoffs. Go
New York, go New York, go go New York.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
New You want to be saddled with Joel Embiid complaining
about something every five seconds.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh, he's also a dirt bag. You guys gotta be suspected,
like every member of my family that goes on vacation.
I don't like this room. I don't like this, I
don't like this food, I don't like this. This is
what's wrong? Does you go around tackling people? New York Coat, go,
New York, Go, New York Coat, go.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
To I'm kind of dancing to my chair like the
al Pacino booty sweat dance from Tropic Thunder.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Go edit that out, take it again, New York, Go,
New York. It's so exciting, it's so exciting. I was
really looking to do a whole little bit louder now,
a little bit softer now as you started doing that.
But it's ODIs he loves us. Yeah, it's it's a
very scary place we are in the NBA Playoffs because
(01:50):
you're trying to find new heroes. Yes, new people to promote,
new people to sell. One sells sells. Captain America. Now,
Captain America.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Does he fit the suit? Yes he does. He's not
very tall, he's not very fast, but he is very smart.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
He is very quick. Well, we can get him in
that machine that Tommy Lee Jones was using and we
can get him up to size in no time.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
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after defeating the seventy six ers and Joelle and beat
(02:33):
in his seven fourth quarter turnover was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He had a great run. That's that's what you call
a clutch player right there. Superstar kind of stuff. He
had being admonished to cross all forms of media for
being a dirty player. Yes, it's not even borderline questionable
at this point. You get one or two of those
in a series where you're like, all right, that might
might have been a little bit different.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No, By the fourth quarter, not only was he in
h full I'm just gonna take you out mode, he
couldn't hit the broadside of a barn and struggled mightily.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
You can only say you're protecting yourself so long before
people go, yeah, man's not so much when you're stomping
on guys. But hey, listen, I understand he's upset. If
I was too tired to play and I and I
I toward one point in the fourth quarter and went
oh for seven and had seven turnovers, I'd be a
little upset if.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I was frustrating. Should certainly be a little upset when
the home crowd VP tickets.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh yeah, when you hear when you hear seventy six
ers getting booted the free throw line and MVP chance
and blank MB chance going on and wells fargo.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I understand that Joel Embiid is a little bit hurt
right now. It's very difficult have a little bit of snippity.
Given me a primer on fan etiquette and how it
works when you're losing and supply demanded.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
He's played in Philadelphia his whole career.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
He should know that. He's gotta know sometimes you forget no,
come on sometimes, gentle reminder.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Be a little bit a little upset, you know not,
don't be so upset and just think about have some
feelings for a second for a dirty star who is
failing miserably and looking for excuses everywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Let's have some sympathy for guys like that they deserve
our He doesn't have Doc there as an excuse. Well,
can you still blame Doc? Can you still blame Doc?
I blame Lovey Smith for a lot turned like he
made it. He became a baby face last year because
he delivered the number one pick to the Bears.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
This year the after effects of Doc. Maybe, could you
know we're still we're still really like the Lakers, Like
the Lakers are still reeling from the decision to get
Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Uh, you know, can you say that it's still the
Doc Rivers fault? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And and oh and the referees. Sorry, sorry, sorry, the
referees and Doc Rivers. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but
just you know, that's a show about it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
If the referees had done a better job. Want to
encourage them, you know, to do a better job than
they did early in this series changed everything. He needs
your help, Joel embiid. He we have a telethon. Yeah,
I think so. I think we need to tell about
a fresco at swollen Dome. If everybody watching the phones
in the back, what's gonna help, Joel Embiid, We'll maybe
have a couple of celebrities come and answer phones. Allen
(05:10):
Iris through the back and you see him picking up
the phone and hanging it up, pick it up and
hanging up. Figure it up, hang it up, figure it up,
hang it up, figuring up, hang it up. Doctor Jay's
is there shaking his head.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh, but Joel Embiid needs everybody's help. He is having
a very difficult time right now.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Now the reigning MVP. Should we should we put up
our camera cameras and flashlight like you're in a bon
Jovi concert.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, a lot of news on Bomb bon Jovi after
the release of that Hulu series.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Uh, so here we are live tonight. Yes, it's a
go New York, Go New York.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, sure it is every night is there? They are
here to save the NBA playoffs. Meanwhile, Nuggets and the
Lakers just underway. The Lakers getting shut out by the Nuggets.
It's two nothing early in the first quarter.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Jamal Murray on that need went right at Lebron. Yeah,
it looks like Jamaal Murray looks like the knee is okay.
It so as looks like he's already spread stayed at
seven or six and a half all day, the fact
that he was wearing some bulky ass wrap on his knee.
He was playing come on now.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The thunder and a closeout game over the Pelicans lead
at fifty four to fifty three in the third quarter.
We're checking to see if there's any television on this game.
This may be Internet only and it could just be
when over Morse code, well could the old old times
you have to sit in a room and listen to
the radio as they're come in and tell you what's happening.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Is this the true TV bet cast, because that's the
only reason you'd be watching this game at this point
if you had money on it. I'm betting if there's television.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Meanwhile, the game that is completed, the Celtics now finally
take a stranglehold over the Heat.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
They win tonight one oh two eighty eight. It was
a big Celtics lead the entire game.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We watched the Heat cut it to twelve and thirteen
early in the fourth quarter, but Boston's able to get
by and now they're up three games to one. However,
and again this goes into a really big point about
how this is just what the NBA Playoffs is. It
is a battle and a war of attrition, and if
you are healthy, you can win the title. If you
are not healthy, you are not going to win the title.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Every year.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
By the time we get to the end of the
first round, there is an all star team of players
who are hurt that are not playing. See right now
with Kawhi Leonard who is who knows when he's gonna
play again, Giannis is out, Damian Lillard is out, and
now the Celtics could be without Christops Porzingis. They're number
three for a while. He left the game fourteen minutes in.
It looked like it was an Achilles calf type injury.
(07:31):
The Celtics right now feel good that it is not
an Achilles injury. It looks like it's a calf injury
of some kind. But who knows porzingis. Look, the guy's
played in more than sixty five games once in seven years.
What do I always say about porzingis, Yeah, he's fine,
and when you need him, you just can't count on him.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Right, Oh, he's a unicorn. You love the theory of him? Yeah? Oh,
then when you need him, when you want to say, hey,
you know what, I know exactly where I can find
this unicorn and show you this great thing. He ain't there,
but you just know he's visible. You know he's gonna
get hurt at some point he gets it's hurt tonight.
Now it didn't hurt the Celtics because they were out
to a big lead. They want to look to the
heater a playing without Jimmy Butler, and it's probably gonna
(08:07):
be over in another game. Boston maybe figured out a
little bit, Oh hey, we got to step up here.
We can't be in a first round series here against Miami.
But Porzingis is someone who look, look they signed him.
He's a huge difference maker on this team. Right, they
have a really good starting five Boston. Don't get me wrong,
this is still Tatum and brand It look white. Tonight
had thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But Porzingis is that guy that makes it all possible,
going in and out, playing down low, coming out, shooting
threes when he can. Porzingis really is something that makes
the rest of the offense part go. And without him,
that's a big blow because suddenly now you're saying.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Heyll Harford, hey get in there and play some minutes. Leah.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Porzingis means a lot to this team, and yet here
is another guy who can't stay healthy and is joining
that list of potential All Star players that you're looking
at that are injured. Here in the first round of
the playoffs. We're a little bit over halfway through the
first round already you're talking about four All Star caliber
players who were out either for the series, uh, for
a few games, or who knows how long until they're back.
(09:06):
This is just the way the playoffs go.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean the impact of players missing time, certainly
we normally say it's a negative. Well, Kawhi Leonard, they
played better when he is in there. They've that they've
had time to get used to it. They used that
the way the offense was motoring.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Kawhi Leonard has played has played a total of three
games as a Clipper. I don't know if you know this, really,
he's played a total of three games to massage three Clippers.
Three Yeah. Yeah, you didn't know that, did you. Yeah,
you didn't know that. Three games as a Clipper, three
games in five years.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Fuzzy math. But it's okay. When and when he gets back, though,
everything's gonna be Everything's going to be great and fantastic.
But yeah, watching that game yes day, that was crazy.
I mean, you had a little bit of chaos here
and a scare for the Celtics, not only from losing Porzingas,
but you and I were watching, as we're warming up
and talking about the show. The opportunity for a run
(09:57):
by Miami cut short by something that'll be debated in
terms of, you know, whether you can defend the guy
taking a warm up shot after a fall has been called.
But Jason Tatum after a screen and guys are falling
all over, bam Adebio goes and steps out to just
be like, all right, let's stop this nonsense. Don't take
the warm up shot. Well, Tatum lands on his foot
(10:19):
and goes down and he's hopping around and he's like, well,
all right, now do we have an ankle injury for him?
And it turns out he's fine. He finishes the game,
but technical falls called the flagrants called. You have this
moment of confusion of wait, the play was already over.
Now what are we reviewing? Because you were reviewing the
file that was originally called Now you're reviewing whether you
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had at a bio do anything out of sorts. And
he had a big game as well. He battles but
any attempt of a massive comeback by the heat was
absolutely killed in that moment. But another turned ankle from
oh here we go now because he goes down and
immediately it's like did he flop? And you watch the replay,
it's like no, his his ankle went to a ninety
degree Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I mean, look you are talking about now, just just
think about this. This is why matchups go out the window.
Everything else goes out the window when it's just be healthy.
I realized I say this as the Lakers saying we're
facing a healthy Nuggets team is beating the crab maton.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well, you know what, you've had the lead for ninety
eight percent of the games. You still find a way
to Look, can I have that stat thrown at me
one more time? But and then I guess the big controversy.
There were folks saying, well, you know, they've essentially won
all these games, like, no, they didn't. They lost, Yeah,
they won for a while. When they lost, a more
came down like it's not a cumulative effect.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The Lakers have led for ninety nine and forty four
one hundreds of this series, but trail three games to one.
You are looking at right because this is about the
play and everything else is irrelevant. Who you're playing, ducking
teams because you don't know how it's going to go.
But you know every year players are going to get
hurt and from the end of the regular season till now. Okay,
this is just the middle of the first round of
(11:55):
the playoffs. Zion Williamson, Yeah, Jimmy Butler, Yanna, Damian Lillard
now tonight, Chris tops Porzengis, Mitchell Robinson of the Knicks
is out, and Joel Embiid is playing on one foot.
This is where you're at right now, because this is
what the playoffs is Forget about it's just stay healthy,
play well, stay healthy, want it like the Knicks won it,
(12:16):
because no team wants it like the Knicks won it. Boy,
if I hear that one more, hey, you know why
because they get every offensive rebound man the Knicks one, you.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Know, just to get to give the taking anything from healthy.
And the Knicks already even healthy. But Julius Randl's been
out a while. They've been used to again, they've gotten
used to. But you're talking about since the end of
the regular season. These are the guys and These are
six All Star players and one guy who was close,
who was a Defensive Player of the Year finalists. This
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is what happened.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
This is the number one thing you need to worry
about in the NBA playoffs. Everything else is like ten
miles behind. This is what you have to worry about.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I have to ask the one question that's obvious as
you read that laundry list, and look, there were some
secondary players, some role players that are banged up that
you can beat. Sure. Oh sorry, sorry, I'm sorry. I said.
We're gonna feel bad for the beginning. I'm sorry. I mean,
but the who would be the artist singing the song?
(13:15):
As we scrolled up those names with their images like
an immemorialm on the academy, who.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Does I will remember you? Who does that? But is
that the song for the for the dogs? We need
a new song? Then we need know, you know, we need.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
To know you know what we can when we can
do kill two birds with one stone. Okay, as I'm
trying to save dogs, you couldn't even Yeah, now you
want to kill birds, right it right as I'm saying it,
like no birds? Okay, that's what Harmon do. Is more
important than birds.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But the idea greater than birds, Okay, The idea of
being Pete is still gonna call you.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Is that we can intersperse one dog we need to
save okay with one of the hurt NBA players, and
we keep those images going and then she can get
into the second verse of the songs. All right, that works,
That works. Everybody can get a full rendition.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I was thinking more like think of me from Phantom
of the Opera. Think of me, think of me fondly
when we've said goodbye.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I think I'm gonna record that when I go to
see it in London. Think of me once in a while.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Please promise me you'll try.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
We never said playing was evergreen.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
It works.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It works. I like how you've now made it's a
real positive thing, Like like that early chair dance she
did to start the show.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
If you ever have a moment spare fun for me?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Is that is that the next show You're no, But
now I want it to be so we can have.
It's been enough of me saying nobody ever cared about me.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Put on the.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Mask, exit out about a Fresco exit, swallowing down Tom.
Everything else goes by the wayside. Stay healthy and you
can win not healthy, won't. Look the Nuggets did it
last year. They took advantage of a lot of teams
that had injury.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Hey, we're all the way to the finals. Everybody else
is hurt, right, you saw it with the heat in
the East. Hey, everybody's hurt. We're making This is how
you win. This is the most important. Everything else is set.
I don't even care about the other stuff. Are you
healthy going in? You got a chance? You never know
how it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, that's a big thing. Looking at Denver right with
the questionable status of marine. Obviously he's out there and
he's running around. He's fine, But they don't have the
same depth of the bench that they did a year
ago in route to the title. So if he were
to miss any length of time while suddenly the soft
underbelly is exposed.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
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I think we're gonna go all the way through. No,
I did this, We're all the way through. You gotta
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have Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
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week and contribute to Broadway Music. Gal It's post NFL
is what we do after the draft is over. Kids,
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Speaker 1 (17:11):
In the NBA playoffs, Oklahoma City in the closeout game
against New Orleans, it is a one point game, seventy
sixty nine, about three seconds ago in the third quarter. Meanwhile,
four minutes to go in the first the Nuggets going
for the closer against the Lakers. They lead at sixteen
to thirteen. Well, we'll have more NBA on the way,
but joining us now to put a nice, big red
(17:31):
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Washington Post one of five to seven The fan in Baltimore, Jaylaw, what's.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Happening, Bud?
Speaker 5 (17:42):
What's going on? Gentlemen? How was your draft?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
The draft was good. I was happy for the Jets.
I think Harmon is very happy for the Bears. Ecstatically, Yeah,
you know, and no games have been played and we
haven't lost, so we're feeling pretty good in the offseason, Jason, at.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
The best time of the football season, Jets. I agree
with you guys entirely.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I feel pretty good. Now listen, now you should you should. Yeah,
I'm I'm excited what we yea. But this is when
the Jets do their best work. Jay is in the
in the off season. It's the gas the pesky games
that give us trouble.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, I'm not even sure they're very good at this,
but it's definitely better than the game.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Okay, So with all the teams you saw, we've had
time to look and see what's the one or two
teams when you go, wow, they really aste it. If
it's the Jets, that's fine, but they really asty love
what they did.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I mean, look, I'm not going to sit here and
tell you that I know these kids. I talked to,
you know a fair amount of people and uh, you know,
sort of kicked it around with a few guys I
talked to about this kind of stuff. And I think
the Steelers, you know, they they have really uh kind
(18:55):
of changed their identity here and they now have a
super athletic quarterback and I'm talking about Justin Fields, not
Russell Wilson, and a reconstructed offensive line, and with the
way they started running the ball last year, and with
what they already had on defense, and a few of
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these pieces now sprinkled in, and if they do come
away with a veteran wide receiver at some point between
now and week, I'll say we gate by the trade deadline.
Then you know, I think they're a really interesting football team.
Like yeah, I mean, I know the kid like will
(19:39):
the kid Wilson and Nancy State linebackers. One of my
favorite players in the draft. And I don't know that
he's going to have the longest career in the world,
but I know he's going to play, you know, like
Dick Buckets for as long as he can, and he's
wired a certain way, and he had him into that
defensive front, and with what they've done in free agency,
(20:01):
Like I think Pittsburgh stands out for me as a positive.
Like I'm seeing plus seven fifty for Pittsburgh to win
that division. I'm in on that. I'm sprinkling there. And
on the other side, I did the Giants, like I
don't know how they're the only people in the league.
I don't think they needed a quarterback, you know, and
(20:21):
apparently they were like Drake may or Bust, which blows
my mind because that's the kid that the guys I
trust in the league like the least. So you know
of that top really of the top five, I would say,
because I definitely talk to some people who preferred Penix,
especially if you were going to play him sooner rather
than later. Now who knows, because Pendicks might not play
(20:42):
for five years according to the Falcon So you know
that would boy, that would really you want to talk
about that insult the injury. We finally direct the quarterback
who might be good. Now we're going to wait four
years to play and we all know that that's bs,
but they said it. I just don't see how the giants,
like I think they're going to win this way, and
(21:03):
for guys whose jobs are on the line, I think
they made some interesting choices. And the Titans draft didn't
do much for me either.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, since you brought it up, the Michael Panis junior.
Everybody's falling all over themselves for reason, slash excuses, slash
justifications to tell everybody how smart they are and making
this choice. I'm still not there and I've been able
to do it. It's a great thought exercise Jason, But
you just paid this guy, even if it's mostly in
two years, you paid him at a dollars.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It's incongruous. Now, that doesn't
mean that Pennis won't turn out to be one of
or maybe even the best quarterback in this draft. But
there's just you know, ultimately, a lot of this sport
is about that's at allocation, right, and how you distribute
(21:55):
a finite amount of funds because these billionaires only want
to spend but so much and a finite amount of resources.
You can only carry so many players on your roster
as right, and a finite amount of cap money. And
to act like this was part of some master plan
is if it was a master plan, it's actually more
shameful than it wasn't, you know what I mean. That's
(22:16):
really like, here's what we're going to do. And look,
a lot of this is driven by the owner. My
reporting about Penix and the possibility of him going eighth
overall prior to the draft was driven by what I
was hearing about the way the owner was talking in
that building. So he's cool with it and it's his money,
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but it's backwards. I mean, you just think of what
you could have done to build around this. And if
you're at eight and you're not sure he's going to
be there, then you just have the conviction to move
up or whatever. But for a twenty four year old
who's played as much as he has, who had the
(22:56):
success he had for him to not like he now,
he's sitting like he's some twenty one year old kid.
It's really bizarre. And I think it'll come to a
head in I don't know, nine months, because I don't
think Kirk Cousin's gonna be there for year two one
way or the other. Like, I don't think that scenario exists.
(23:18):
So he's gonna be there for one year and then
he's going to be treated San Francisco and we'll see
what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Jason locking for with us here The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carmon, Live from the Ti rag dot Com Studios.
All right, another quarterback here. It's not just about him,
but it's about what he brings and what else they
have done in the off season. And it did during
the draft. But I will be surprised, and Mike Harmon's
gonna faint when I say this. I will be really
surprised if the Bears aren't in the playoffs next year.
(23:45):
I'd be really surprised if they they can't flip that
seven win season into a ten or eleven win season
with the moves they've made in an NFC where you
could say, hey, you know, on paper they have a
really strong roster.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, I don't know, you know, so I think they
may have to walk before they run, Like, I'm not
I'm not there. I know there's a lot of people
who are going to like look at them and say, well,
that's the NFC's version of the twenty twenty three Texans, right,
And I'm not sure that on the offensive side of
the ball, the staff they have is going to be there,
(24:20):
And I'm not sure that that's going to be the
group that is long term. With Caleb Williams certainly made
stripes defensively last year. That's a tough division though, you know,
like if we're looking for parallels on teams that have
done this, it's usually they're in a garbage division, like
I don't know the AFC South last year, especially with Jacksonville,
(24:41):
you know, peeing down's leg every week. So I don't know, man,
I think very you know highly of the Packers and
also the Lions and Minnesota. Look, Minnesota was hanging around
to the end with Josh Dobbs and Nick Mullens and
all these dudes like Kevin O'Connell. I think he's a
pretty sharp cookie. You know, they've got to go to Houston,
They've got to go to San Francisco. You know. Even
(25:03):
the games like Chicago against the NFC West, Like, I
don't know, man, Like are those layups for them? Like
I'm not ready to say that. And any NFC team
against an AFC division, even if you're catching a lesser one,
Like ask Cal Santahan about that. He went two and
four against the AFC last year. Now he did put
(25:23):
the North, But I don't know, guys, Like I kind
of need to see it before I buy it. Like
what I'm hoping there is that there is this huge
hype train and every time you know, they complete a
forward pass at OTA's, it's the lead story in the
six o'clock news there. And so let's get that win
total up to like nine and a half and then
I'll fade it with abandon Like right now, eight and
a half is a little snug from me. If you
(25:45):
made me better, I'd go under actually, because you're getting
plus money and if you're making me wait six months
to get my money back, I at least want to
feel like I'm getting more than I put down. Like
that's just me, you know what I mean. I'm not
in the futures bets, you know, minus one to eighty five, Like, yeah,
that's not how I roll. Like I could figure out
something do with that money in the meantime for that return.
But uh, let's see, I'm here for the hype train
(26:05):
because I want to fade them.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
The old shawsh Ink line that I I know you.
I want to fade them. The you know, hope is
a dangerous thing, and Bears fans will remember that, I
think in short order. Well, but given the way you
laid out the division is you know, kind of where
I sit is you know, it's it's a long road
there and looks great on paper. Now you actually have
to go win games. But uh, you brought up San
(26:32):
Francisco in the Kirk Cousins analysis last one for you
real quick.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
I don't know, well, just briefly, that dog copper, I
didn't somebody whispered it.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It wasn't there, No, it could have been maybe I
got voices in my own head. Now, but he's got
a talking dog. That's a pretty big story. I mean,
I'm just gonna listen to the dog.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
That's pretty that's a pretty big I thought you were
all anything.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
He's veteran wide receivers actually going to get dealt Well.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I tell you this much. I don't think they're both
getting paid in San Francisco, So you know, I don't know.
Maybe there's an in between, but uh, I'm a lot
of time between now and I'm not eve gonna say
week one, I'll say what I said before. Between now
and the trade deadline, a lot of time he's on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
At Jason locking For. That is at Jason locking for
and look for the In the dog battle against Kirk
Herbstreak's dog Ben, it's going to be Copper versus Ben. Uh,
and we'll see who winds up winning. That's destroying bank.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well, Copper special, Copper can talk. That's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Copper will get him in the mental and the verbal
physical not so much. We're an old pug mix out
sleep any dog.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I know. Okay, Well, well, that's what's part of the
dog Olympics is sleeping.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It's a lot of noises. He can probably make more
noises than the average buff.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I mean, wait, maybe we hit him something.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Dog. I think we hit something starts, he starts more
trade rumors than.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Jay is always Buddy appreciated. Man, we'll talk, we say,
buddy his dog starting the your dog cousins to the
forty nine ers roomor wow, that was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
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Speaker 2 (28:21):
Du dud d, I'm kind of digging. This is a
Phantom of the Opera hour. You're here the remixing. Yeah,
start adding a little bit of the Phantom of the Opera.
Two you leave, Love Never Dies Alone.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
This is all we're doing for the hour. We're not
doing this for the next two hours.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We got two hours, three more Mary, four more hours.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
This this is the Phantom of the Opera hour, and
after that we're done.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Okay, what are we doing next? Chorus line is that
they're coming after that?
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Nasking shoos.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We can do anything but cats.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
We can do oh cats, all right, so cat's next?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
No anythings? Yeah, you play memory. Sure, Sure, I'm scared
to with all my musical knowledge are no, No, you're
You're right on little Wicked. Why not get a little
Wicked in there?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Sure we can do a Broadway night tonight live.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Sure, Hey, you know what to honor the Knicks. It
could be a Broadway night in the show tooka We
can honor the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
The lights are on in the Great White Way.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the
tirec dot Com Studios. We got more on the NBA
coming up in about ten minutes. But thanks to Jason
lock and for who joined us a few minutes ago
and talked to post NFL draft, and now that we've
seen the drafters looking forward to what's next, we'll give
you a couple of Big Bowl predictions right now. You
know we told you about the I'd be really stunned
if your Bears did not make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
They look great.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I agree with Jason lock and for before the season starts,
Brandon Aiyuk or Deebo Samuel will get dealt. One of
those guys is getting dealt. Deebo was kind of debo
at this point. I I maybe you can get a
team to get Hey, I'm in for what Deebo was
three years ago. A UK would bring more money. You
gotta pay more for him. But they didn't draft. They didn't.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
They didn't draft at the top.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You're not taking a wide receiver that early to say hey,
we're okay with you being our number three receiver. Right,
that's not gonna happen. But here's the big one I'm
gonna give you. By this time next off season, the
Chargers will have traded Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Look at you.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Justin Herbert will be an ex Charger. He'll be playing
somewhere else. Look at what this entire offseason has been
for the Chargers. They've not talked about Herbert at all.
It's been the offensive line is what's gonna win us games.
Offensive line, offensive line. There's not been one comment about how, hey,
we love Justin Herbert, we're looking forward to working with.
It's all been offensive line. Offensive line. Jim Harbaugh has
a philosophy, you know, coming in. This is how they're
(30:46):
building the team. They go on the offensive line, they
take all in the first round, They get a receiver,
a lad McConkey is nice, and they'll be great in
dynasty leagues, but you are gonna take your best player
and you're gonna minimize him because you're going to run
the football on the same leaping offense you ran at
Michigan because you think that's gonna win. In the NFL,
there has not been any talk at all about Herbert,
using him, building around him. It's been this is my
(31:08):
way the offensive line. We got a couple of stories
right up to the draft that a couple of teams
called about Justin Herbert, and we're told, no, no one's
calling the Chargers for Justin Herbert unless there's a little
bit of smoke signal up there that's saying, hey, uh,
why would we call it? Why are teams calling for
Justin Herbert unless they think something is up there. But
it's too soon to do that, and Harbarr realizes that
(31:30):
if I do it now and before we come in
and play a game, I mean, I'm starting so far
behind the eight ball. No one's gonna give me the
benefit of the doubt at all. But they're gonna go
through this season and they're gonna be They're gonna do
whatever they're gonna do and be what they're gonna be,
and they're gonna minimize Justin Herbert and the offseason it's
gonna be, Yeah, we don't need a guy like this.
We're gonna save a lot of money because I spend
(31:50):
a lot of money on a quarterback. I'm gonna draft
somewhere else, gonna get somebody else, and we're gonna trade
Justin Herbert. It just seems like he is a spare
part now with this Chargers team, that this should be
the guy front and center that Harbor should be talking about.
I'm excited to work with him, excitedball. But instead the
off season has all been about offensive line. Off offline.
We can put anybody behind center. Offensive line is what's
(32:11):
going to do it. All of these things are all clues.
They're all leading up to what's going to happen, and
that to this time next year, Justin Herbert will be
available for trade, the charge will get a bunch of
draft picks moving on, and they'll figure out their next quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I like your bold proposition. I would argue this, you've
spent your money on him. He's in the box. You
already know this is good. He's good. Life is good
over there. The rest of your team needed in overhaul, right,
you need to. I mean, this is all your HGTV makeovers.
I don't know that bringing in guys that have been
(32:44):
broken down and run up a little bit in Baltimore's
the way to go, although Vidal again, dynasty leagues, you
want to go down to identities and even in deeper drafts. Yeah,
he's gonna be the guy that pops out of this.
But you know it ever hurts to make the phone call?
Why not try? Hey, what are you guys looking at?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
But you're not making that call unless you know the
possibility exists that maybe at some point you can shake
him free. Right, Why are you making that phone call?
Is anybody calling the Ravens about Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Legitimately? How how many guys are untouchable in this league?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Truly, there's probably about five or ten that are untouchable,
and you would think Herbert would be one of them.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Mahomes is untouchable. Josh Allen's untouchable. Mahomes might might get
his ass kicked by bron Strowman shout out raw, but
Burrow's untouchable probably.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
After all the injuries. Hell, you could bring me in
GA got him to the Super super Bowl a couple
of years ago, and then he got hurt again. No,
there's life comes at you different world. But he's not
and he's not been bad. There's been no written, but
you can just see that. It seems like he's the
(33:58):
he's on the outside right now of what this team
is going to be going forward. As why Dwide's a
bold prediction. Next summer, next time, next year. Justin Herbert
Jets quarterback. I think he shows up in OTAs with
full face paint and the Road Warriors shoulder pads.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
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Speaker 2 (34:19):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Give this you're.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Shh, it's so quiet you can barely hear it. Go
New York, go New York, go go New York, New.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
York, go go New York, go New York. Go go
New York O, New York O. Go New York O New York.
Go go New York O New York. Go go New
York O New York.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Co.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
The Knicks are here to save the NBA playoffs, Mike Harmon.
They're here to save it. Save them from one and
the Lakers going out from kads out.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Porzingis is her. They're gonna save the NBA playoffs. Go
New York, go New York, go go New York.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
New You want to be saddled with Joel Embiid complaining
about something every five seconds.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Oh, he's also a dirt bag. You guys gotta be suspected,
like every member of my family that goes on vacation.
I don't like this room. I don't like this, I
don't like this food, I don't like this. This is
what's wrong? Does you go around tackling people? New York Coat, go,
New York, Go, New York Coat, go.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
To I'm kind of dancing to my chair like the
al Pacino booty sweat dance from Tropic Thunder.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Go edit that out, take it again, New York, Go,
New York. It's so exciting, it's so exciting. I was
really looking to do a whole little bit louder now,
a little bit softer now as you started doing that.
But it's ODIs he loves us. Yeah, it's it's a
very scary place we are in the NBA Playoffs because
(01:50):
you're trying to find new heroes. Yes, new people to promote,
new people to sell. One sells sells. Captain America. Now,
Captain America.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Does he fit the suit? Yes he does. He's not
very tall, he's not very fast, but he is very smart.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
He is very quick. Well, we can get him in
that machine that Tommy Lee Jones was using and we
can get him up to size in no time.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
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(02:33):
in his seven fourth quarter turnover was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He had a great run. That's that's what you call
a clutch player right there. Superstar kind of stuff. He
had being admonished to cross all forms of media for
being a dirty player. Yes, it's not even borderline questionable
at this point. You get one or two of those
in a series where you're like, all right, that might
might have been a little bit different.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
No, By the fourth quarter, not only was he in
h full I'm just gonna take you out mode, he
couldn't hit the broadside of a barn and struggled mightily.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
You can only say you're protecting yourself so long before
people go, yeah, man's not so much when you're stomping
on guys. But hey, listen, I understand he's upset. If
I was too tired to play and I and I
I toward one point in the fourth quarter and went
oh for seven and had seven turnovers, I'd be a
little upset if.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I was frustrating. Should certainly be a little upset when
the home crowd VP tickets.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Oh yeah, when you hear when you hear seventy six
ers getting booted the free throw line and MVP chance
and blank MB chance going on and wells fargo.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I understand that Joel Embiid is a little bit hurt
right now. It's very difficult have a little bit of snippity.
Given me a primer on fan etiquette and how it
works when you're losing and supply demanded.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
He's played in Philadelphia his whole career.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
He should know that. He's gotta know sometimes you forget no,
come on sometimes, gentle reminder.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Be a little bit a little upset, you know not,
don't be so upset and just think about have some
feelings for a second for a dirty star who is
failing miserably and looking for excuses everywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Let's have some sympathy for guys like that they deserve
our He doesn't have Doc there as an excuse. Well,
can you still blame Doc? Can you still blame Doc?
I blame Lovey Smith for a lot turned like he
made it. He became a baby face last year because
he delivered the number one pick to the Bears.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
This year the after effects of Doc. Maybe, could you
know we're still we're still really like the Lakers, Like
the Lakers are still reeling from the decision to get
Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Uh, you know, can you say that it's still the
Doc Rivers fault? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And and oh and the referees. Sorry, sorry, sorry, the
referees and Doc Rivers. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but
just you know, that's a show about it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
If the referees had done a better job. Want to
encourage them, you know, to do a better job than
they did early in this series changed everything. He needs
your help, Joel embiid. He we have a telethon. Yeah,
I think so. I think we need to tell about
a fresco at swollen Dome. If everybody watching the phones
in the back, what's gonna help, Joel Embiid, We'll maybe
have a couple of celebrities come and answer phones. Allen
(05:10):
Iris through the back and you see him picking up
the phone and hanging it up, pick it up and
hanging up. Figure it up, hang it up, figure it up,
hang it up, figuring up, hang it up. Doctor Jay's
is there shaking his head.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Oh, but Joel Embiid needs everybody's help. He is having
a very difficult time right now.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Now the reigning MVP. Should we should we put up
our camera cameras and flashlight like you're in a bon
Jovi concert.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, a lot of news on Bomb bon Jovi after
the release of that Hulu series.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Uh, so here we are live tonight. Yes, it's a
go New York, Go New York.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh it's not.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, sure it is every night is there? They are
here to save the NBA playoffs. Meanwhile, Nuggets and the
Lakers just underway. The Lakers getting shut out by the Nuggets.
It's two nothing early in the first quarter.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Jamal Murray on that need went right at Lebron. Yeah,
it looks like Jamaal Murray looks like the knee is okay.
It so as looks like he's already spread stayed at
seven or six and a half all day, the fact
that he was wearing some bulky ass wrap on his knee.
He was playing come on now.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
The thunder and a closeout game over the Pelicans lead
at fifty four to fifty three in the third quarter.
We're checking to see if there's any television on this game.
This may be Internet only and it could just be
when over Morse code, well could the old old times
you have to sit in a room and listen to
the radio as they're come in and tell you what's happening.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Is this the true TV bet cast, because that's the
only reason you'd be watching this game at this point
if you had money on it. I'm betting if there's television.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Meanwhile, the game that is completed, the Celtics now finally
take a stranglehold over the Heat.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
They win tonight one oh two eighty eight. It was
a big Celtics lead the entire game.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
We watched the Heat cut it to twelve and thirteen
early in the fourth quarter, but Boston's able to get
by and now they're up three games to one. However,
and again this goes into a really big point about
how this is just what the NBA Playoffs is. It
is a battle and a war of attrition, and if
you are healthy, you can win the title. If you
are not healthy, you are not going to win the title.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Every year.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
By the time we get to the end of the
first round, there is an all star team of players
who are hurt that are not playing. See right now
with Kawhi Leonard who is who knows when he's gonna
play again, Giannis is out, Damian Lillard is out, and
now the Celtics could be without Christops Porzingis. They're number
three for a while. He left the game fourteen minutes in.
It looked like it was an Achilles calf type injury.
(07:31):
The Celtics right now feel good that it is not
an Achilles injury. It looks like it's a calf injury
of some kind. But who knows porzingis. Look, the guy's
played in more than sixty five games once in seven years.
What do I always say about porzingis, Yeah, he's fine,
and when you need him, you just can't count on him.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Right, Oh, he's a unicorn. You love the theory of him? Yeah? Oh,
then when you need him, when you want to say, hey,
you know what, I know exactly where I can find
this unicorn and show you this great thing. He ain't there,
but you just know he's visible. You know he's gonna
get hurt at some point he gets it's hurt tonight.
Now it didn't hurt the Celtics because they were out
to a big lead. They want to look to the
heater a playing without Jimmy Butler, and it's probably gonna
(08:07):
be over in another game. Boston maybe figured out a
little bit, Oh hey, we got to step up here.
We can't be in a first round series here against Miami.
But Porzingis is someone who look, look they signed him.
He's a huge difference maker on this team. Right, they
have a really good starting five Boston. Don't get me wrong,
this is still Tatum and brand It look white. Tonight
had thirty eight.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But Porzingis is that guy that makes it all possible,
going in and out, playing down low, coming out, shooting
threes when he can. Porzingis really is something that makes
the rest of the offense part go. And without him,
that's a big blow because suddenly now you're saying.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Heyll Harford, hey get in there and play some minutes. Leah.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Porzingis means a lot to this team, and yet here
is another guy who can't stay healthy and is joining
that list of potential All Star players that you're looking
at that are injured. Here in the first round of
the playoffs. We're a little bit over halfway through the
first round already you're talking about four All Star caliber
players who were out either for the series, uh, for
a few games, or who knows how long until they're back.
(09:06):
This is just the way the playoffs go.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, I mean the impact of players missing time, certainly
we normally say it's a negative. Well, Kawhi Leonard, they
played better when he is in there. They've that they've
had time to get used to it. They used that
the way the offense was motoring.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Kawhi Leonard has played has played a total of three
games as a Clipper. I don't know if you know this, really,
he's played a total of three games to massage three Clippers.
Three Yeah. Yeah, you didn't know that, did you. Yeah,
you didn't know that. Three games as a Clipper, three
games in five years.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Fuzzy math. But it's okay. When and when he gets back, though,
everything's gonna be Everything's going to be great and fantastic.
But yeah, watching that game yes day, that was crazy.
I mean, you had a little bit of chaos here
and a scare for the Celtics, not only from losing Porzingas,
but you and I were watching, as we're warming up
and talking about the show. The opportunity for a run
(09:57):
by Miami cut short by something that'll be debated in
terms of, you know, whether you can defend the guy
taking a warm up shot after a fall has been called.
But Jason Tatum after a screen and guys are falling
all over, bam Adebio goes and steps out to just
be like, all right, let's stop this nonsense. Don't take
the warm up shot. Well, Tatum lands on his foot
(10:19):
and goes down and he's hopping around and he's like, well,
all right, now do we have an ankle injury for him?
And it turns out he's fine. He finishes the game,
but technical falls called the flagrants called. You have this
moment of confusion of wait, the play was already over.
Now what are we reviewing? Because you were reviewing the
file that was originally called Now you're reviewing whether you
(10:40):
had at a bio do anything out of sorts. And
he had a big game as well. He battles but
any attempt of a massive comeback by the heat was
absolutely killed in that moment. But another turned ankle from
oh here we go now because he goes down and
immediately it's like did he flop? And you watch the replay,
it's like no, his his ankle went to a ninety
degree Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I mean, look you are talking about now, just just
think about this. This is why matchups go out the window.
Everything else goes out the window when it's just be healthy.
I realized I say this as the Lakers saying we're
facing a healthy Nuggets team is beating the crab maton.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Well, you know what, you've had the lead for ninety
eight percent of the games. You still find a way
to Look, can I have that stat thrown at me
one more time? But and then I guess the big controversy.
There were folks saying, well, you know, they've essentially won
all these games, like, no, they didn't. They lost, Yeah,
they won for a while. When they lost, a more
came down like it's not a cumulative effect.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
The Lakers have led for ninety nine and forty four
one hundreds of this series, but trail three games to one.
You are looking at right because this is about the
play and everything else is irrelevant. Who you're playing, ducking
teams because you don't know how it's going to go.
But you know every year players are going to get
hurt and from the end of the regular season till now. Okay,
this is just the middle of the first round of
(11:55):
the playoffs. Zion Williamson, Yeah, Jimmy Butler, Yanna, Damian Lillard
now tonight, Chris tops Porzengis, Mitchell Robinson of the Knicks
is out, and Joel Embiid is playing on one foot.
This is where you're at right now, because this is
what the playoffs is Forget about it's just stay healthy,
play well, stay healthy, want it like the Knicks won it,
(12:16):
because no team wants it like the Knicks won it. Boy,
if I hear that one more, hey, you know why
because they get every offensive rebound man the Knicks one, you.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Know, just to get to give the taking anything from healthy.
And the Knicks already even healthy. But Julius Randl's been
out a while. They've been used to again, they've gotten
used to. But you're talking about since the end of
the regular season. These are the guys and These are
six All Star players and one guy who was close,
who was a Defensive Player of the Year finalists. This
(12:44):
is what happened.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
This is the number one thing you need to worry
about in the NBA playoffs. Everything else is like ten
miles behind. This is what you have to worry about.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Now.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I have to ask the one question that's obvious as
you read that laundry list, and look, there were some
secondary players, some role players that are banged up that
you can beat. Sure. Oh sorry, sorry, I'm sorry. I said.
We're gonna feel bad for the beginning. I'm sorry. I mean,
but the who would be the artist singing the song?
(13:15):
As we scrolled up those names with their images like
an immemorialm on the academy, who.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Does I will remember you? Who does that? But is
that the song for the for the dogs? We need
a new song? Then we need know, you know, we need.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
To know you know what we can when we can
do kill two birds with one stone. Okay, as I'm
trying to save dogs, you couldn't even Yeah, now you
want to kill birds, right it right as I'm saying it,
like no birds? Okay, that's what Harmon do. Is more
important than birds.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But the idea greater than birds, Okay, The idea of
being Pete is still gonna call you.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Is that we can intersperse one dog we need to
save okay with one of the hurt NBA players, and
we keep those images going and then she can get
into the second verse of the songs. All right, that works,
That works. Everybody can get a full rendition.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I was thinking more like think of me from Phantom
of the Opera. Think of me, think of me fondly
when we've said goodbye.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
I think I'm gonna record that when I go to
see it in London. Think of me once in a while.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Please promise me you'll try.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
We never said playing was evergreen.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
It works.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
It works. I like how you've now made it's a
real positive thing, Like like that early chair dance she
did to start the show.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
If you ever have a moment spare fun for me?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Is that is that the next show You're no, But
now I want it to be so we can have.
It's been enough of me saying nobody ever cared about me.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Put on the.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Mask, exit out about a Fresco exit, swallowing down Tom.
Everything else goes by the wayside. Stay healthy and you
can win not healthy, won't. Look the Nuggets did it
last year. They took advantage of a lot of teams
that had injury.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Hey, we're all the way to the finals. Everybody else
is hurt, right, you saw it with the heat in
the East. Hey, everybody's hurt. We're making This is how
you win. This is the most important. Everything else is set.
I don't even care about the other stuff. Are you
healthy going in? You got a chance? You never know
how it's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, that's a big thing. Looking at Denver right with
the questionable status of marine. Obviously he's out there and
he's running around. He's fine, But they don't have the
same depth of the bench that they did a year
ago in route to the title. So if he were
to miss any length of time while suddenly the soft
underbelly is exposed.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
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Speaker 7 (15:46):
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and Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
And I'm Joe Madden.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
We're going to be around to talk a little bit
about managerial decisions and what may have occurred to thatd
I got maybe in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
It's the Book of Joe podcast that can't wait for
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Speaker 3 (16:04):
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Speaker 1 (16:16):
Fox Sports Radio. We're just gonna play the Phantom soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
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Speaker 1 (16:28):
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your face so the world will never find you. Yeah,
I think we're gonna go all the way through. No,
I did this, We're all the way through. You gotta
think of me. We got Masquerade, Oh sure, yeah, we
have Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
If nothing else, I mean, we can do a full
week and contribute to Broadway Music. Gal It's post NFL
is what we do after the draft is over. Kids,
got a way we go. Let's go all right now.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
In the NBA playoffs, Oklahoma City in the closeout game
against New Orleans, it is a one point game, seventy
sixty nine, about three seconds ago in the third quarter. Meanwhile,
four minutes to go in the first the Nuggets going
for the closer against the Lakers. They lead at sixteen
to thirteen. Well, we'll have more NBA on the way,
but joining us now to put a nice, big red
(17:31):
bow on the NFL draft. Longtime NFL insider check them
out on Twitter at Jason Locke and four on Odyssey
Washington Post one of five to seven The fan in Baltimore, Jaylaw, what's.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Happening, Bud?
Speaker 5 (17:42):
What's going on? Gentlemen? How was your draft?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
The draft was good. I was happy for the Jets.
I think Harmon is very happy for the Bears. Ecstatically, Yeah,
you know, and no games have been played and we
haven't lost, so we're feeling pretty good in the offseason, Jason, at.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
The best time of the football season, Jets. I agree
with you guys entirely.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I feel pretty good. Now listen, now you should you should. Yeah,
I'm I'm excited what we yea. But this is when
the Jets do their best work. Jay is in the
in the off season. It's the gas the pesky games
that give us trouble.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, I'm not even sure they're very good at this,
but it's definitely better than the game.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Okay, So with all the teams you saw, we've had
time to look and see what's the one or two
teams when you go, wow, they really aste it. If
it's the Jets, that's fine, but they really asty love
what they did.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
I mean, look, I'm not going to sit here and
tell you that I know these kids. I talked to,
you know a fair amount of people and uh, you know,
sort of kicked it around with a few guys I
talked to about this kind of stuff. And I think
the Steelers, you know, they they have really uh kind
(18:55):
of changed their identity here and they now have a
super athletic quarterback and I'm talking about Justin Fields, not
Russell Wilson, and a reconstructed offensive line, and with the
way they started running the ball last year, and with
what they already had on defense, and a few of
(19:16):
these pieces now sprinkled in, and if they do come
away with a veteran wide receiver at some point between
now and week, I'll say we gate by the trade deadline.
Then you know, I think they're a really interesting football team.
Like yeah, I mean, I know the kid like will
(19:39):
the kid Wilson and Nancy State linebackers. One of my
favorite players in the draft. And I don't know that
he's going to have the longest career in the world,
but I know he's going to play, you know, like
Dick Buckets for as long as he can, and he's
wired a certain way, and he had him into that
defensive front, and with what they've done in free agency,
(20:01):
Like I think Pittsburgh stands out for me as a positive.
Like I'm seeing plus seven fifty for Pittsburgh to win
that division. I'm in on that. I'm sprinkling there. And
on the other side, I did the Giants, like I
don't know how they're the only people in the league.
I don't think they needed a quarterback, you know, and
(20:21):
apparently they were like Drake may or Bust, which blows
my mind because that's the kid that the guys I
trust in the league like the least. So you know
of that top really of the top five, I would say,
because I definitely talk to some people who preferred Penix,
especially if you were going to play him sooner rather
than later. Now who knows, because Pendicks might not play
(20:42):
for five years according to the Falcon So you know
that would boy, that would really you want to talk
about that insult the injury. We finally direct the quarterback
who might be good. Now we're going to wait four
years to play and we all know that that's bs,
but they said it. I just don't see how the giants,
like I think they're going to win this way, and
(21:03):
for guys whose jobs are on the line, I think
they made some interesting choices. And the Titans draft didn't
do much for me either.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Well, since you brought it up, the Michael Panis junior.
Everybody's falling all over themselves for reason, slash excuses, slash
justifications to tell everybody how smart they are and making
this choice. I'm still not there and I've been able
to do it. It's a great thought exercise Jason, But
you just paid this guy, even if it's mostly in
two years, you paid him at a dollars.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Yeah, it doesn't make sense. It's incongruous. Now, that doesn't
mean that Pennis won't turn out to be one of
or maybe even the best quarterback in this draft. But
there's just you know, ultimately, a lot of this sport
is about that's at allocation, right, and how you distribute
(21:55):
a finite amount of funds because these billionaires only want
to spend but so much and a finite amount of resources.
You can only carry so many players on your roster
as right, and a finite amount of cap money. And
to act like this was part of some master plan
is if it was a master plan, it's actually more
shameful than it wasn't, you know what I mean. That's
(22:16):
really like, here's what we're going to do. And look,
a lot of this is driven by the owner. My
reporting about Penix and the possibility of him going eighth
overall prior to the draft was driven by what I
was hearing about the way the owner was talking in
that building. So he's cool with it and it's his money,
(22:36):
but it's backwards. I mean, you just think of what
you could have done to build around this. And if
you're at eight and you're not sure he's going to
be there, then you just have the conviction to move
up or whatever. But for a twenty four year old
who's played as much as he has, who had the
(22:56):
success he had for him to not like he now,
he's sitting like he's some twenty one year old kid.
It's really bizarre. And I think it'll come to a
head in I don't know, nine months, because I don't
think Kirk Cousin's gonna be there for year two one
way or the other. Like, I don't think that scenario exists.
(23:18):
So he's gonna be there for one year and then
he's going to be treated San Francisco and we'll see
what that looks like.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Jason locking for with us here The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carmon, Live from the Ti rag dot Com Studios.
All right, another quarterback here. It's not just about him,
but it's about what he brings and what else they
have done in the off season. And it did during
the draft. But I will be surprised, and Mike Harmon's
gonna faint when I say this. I will be really
surprised if the Bears aren't in the playoffs next year.
(23:45):
I'd be really surprised if they they can't flip that
seven win season into a ten or eleven win season
with the moves they've made in an NFC where you
could say, hey, you know, on paper they have a
really strong roster.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, I don't know, you know, so I think they
may have to walk before they run, Like, I'm not
I'm not there. I know there's a lot of people
who are going to like look at them and say, well,
that's the NFC's version of the twenty twenty three Texans, right,
And I'm not sure that on the offensive side of
the ball, the staff they have is going to be there,
(24:20):
And I'm not sure that that's going to be the
group that is long term. With Caleb Williams certainly made
stripes defensively last year. That's a tough division though, you know,
like if we're looking for parallels on teams that have
done this, it's usually they're in a garbage division, like
I don't know the AFC South last year, especially with Jacksonville,
(24:41):
you know, peeing down's leg every week. So I don't know, man,
I think very you know highly of the Packers and
also the Lions and Minnesota. Look, Minnesota was hanging around
to the end with Josh Dobbs and Nick Mullens and
all these dudes like Kevin O'Connell. I think he's a
pretty sharp cookie. You know, they've got to go to Houston,
They've got to go to San Francisco. You know. Even
(25:03):
the games like Chicago against the NFC West, Like, I
don't know, man, Like are those layups for them? Like
I'm not ready to say that. And any NFC team
against an AFC division, even if you're catching a lesser one,
Like ask Cal Santahan about that. He went two and
four against the AFC last year. Now he did put
(25:23):
the North, But I don't know, guys, Like I kind
of need to see it before I buy it. Like
what I'm hoping there is that there is this huge
hype train and every time you know, they complete a
forward pass at OTA's, it's the lead story in the
six o'clock news there. And so let's get that win
total up to like nine and a half and then
I'll fade it with abandon Like right now, eight and
a half is a little snug from me. If you
(25:45):
made me better, I'd go under actually, because you're getting
plus money and if you're making me wait six months
to get my money back, I at least want to
feel like I'm getting more than I put down. Like
that's just me, you know what I mean. I'm not
in the futures bets, you know, minus one to eighty five, Like, yeah,
that's not how I roll. Like I could figure out
something do with that money in the meantime for that return.
But uh, let's see, I'm here for the hype train
(26:05):
because I want to fade them.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
The old shawsh Ink line that I I know you.
I want to fade them. The you know, hope is
a dangerous thing, and Bears fans will remember that, I
think in short order. Well, but given the way you
laid out the division is you know, kind of where
I sit is you know, it's it's a long road
there and looks great on paper. Now you actually have
to go win games. But uh, you brought up San
(26:32):
Francisco in the Kirk Cousins analysis last one for you
real quick.
Speaker 5 (26:36):
I don't know, well, just briefly, that dog copper, I
didn't somebody whispered it.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It wasn't there, No, it could have been maybe I
got voices in my own head. Now, but he's got
a talking dog. That's a pretty big story. I mean,
I'm just gonna listen to the dog.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Listen.
Speaker 8 (26:49):
That's pretty that's a pretty big I thought you were
all anything.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
He's veteran wide receivers actually going to get dealt Well.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
I tell you this much. I don't think they're both
getting paid in San Francisco, So you know, I don't know.
Maybe there's an in between, but uh, I'm a lot
of time between now and I'm not eve gonna say
week one, I'll say what I said before. Between now
and the trade deadline, a lot of time he's on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
At Jason locking For. That is at Jason locking for
and look for the In the dog battle against Kirk
Herbstreak's dog Ben, it's going to be Copper versus Ben. Uh,
and we'll see who winds up winning. That's destroying bank.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Well, Copper special, Copper can talk. That's pretty good.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Copper will get him in the mental and the verbal
physical not so much. We're an old pug mix out
sleep any dog.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I know. Okay, Well, well, that's what's part of the
dog Olympics is sleeping.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It's a lot of noises. He can probably make more
noises than the average buff.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I mean, wait, maybe we hit him something.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
Dog. I think we hit something starts, he starts more
trade rumors than.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Jay is always Buddy appreciated. Man, we'll talk, we say,
buddy his dog starting the your dog cousins to the
forty nine ers roomor wow, that was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Du dud d, I'm kind of digging. This is a
Phantom of the Opera hour. You're here the remixing. Yeah,
start adding a little bit of the Phantom of the Opera.
Two you leave, Love Never Dies Alone.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
This is all we're doing for the hour. We're not
doing this for the next two hours.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We got two hours, three more Mary, four more hours.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
This this is the Phantom of the Opera hour, and
after that we're done.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Okay, what are we doing next? Chorus line is that
they're coming after that?
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Nasking shoos.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
We can do anything but cats.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
We can do oh cats, all right, so cat's next?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
No anythings? Yeah, you play memory. Sure, Sure, I'm scared
to with all my musical knowledge are no, No, you're
You're right on little Wicked. Why not get a little
Wicked in there?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
Sure we can do a Broadway night tonight live.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Sure, Hey, you know what to honor the Knicks. It
could be a Broadway night in the show tooka We
can honor the Knicks.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
The lights are on in the Great White Way.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the
tirec dot Com Studios. We got more on the NBA
coming up in about ten minutes. But thanks to Jason
lock and for who joined us a few minutes ago
and talked to post NFL draft, and now that we've
seen the drafters looking forward to what's next, we'll give
you a couple of Big Bowl predictions right now. You
know we told you about the I'd be really stunned
if your Bears did not make the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
They look great.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
I agree with Jason lock and for before the season starts,
Brandon Aiyuk or Deebo Samuel will get dealt. One of
those guys is getting dealt. Deebo was kind of debo
at this point. I I maybe you can get a
team to get Hey, I'm in for what Deebo was
three years ago. A UK would bring more money. You
gotta pay more for him. But they didn't draft. They didn't.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
They didn't draft at the top.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You're not taking a wide receiver that early to say hey,
we're okay with you being our number three receiver. Right,
that's not gonna happen. But here's the big one I'm
gonna give you. By this time next off season, the
Chargers will have traded Justin Herbert.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Look at you.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Justin Herbert will be an ex Charger. He'll be playing
somewhere else. Look at what this entire offseason has been
for the Chargers. They've not talked about Herbert at all.
It's been the offensive line is what's gonna win us games.
Offensive line, offensive line. There's not been one comment about how, hey,
we love Justin Herbert, we're looking forward to working with.
It's all been offensive line. Offensive line. Jim Harbaugh has
a philosophy, you know, coming in. This is how they're
(30:46):
building the team. They go on the offensive line, they
take all in the first round, They get a receiver,
a lad McConkey is nice, and they'll be great in
dynasty leagues, but you are gonna take your best player
and you're gonna minimize him because you're going to run
the football on the same leaping offense you ran at
Michigan because you think that's gonna win. In the NFL,
there has not been any talk at all about Herbert,
using him, building around him. It's been this is my
(31:08):
way the offensive line. We got a couple of stories
right up to the draft that a couple of teams
called about Justin Herbert, and we're told, no, no one's
calling the Chargers for Justin Herbert unless there's a little
bit of smoke signal up there that's saying, hey, uh,
why would we call it? Why are teams calling for
Justin Herbert unless they think something is up there. But
it's too soon to do that, and Harbarr realizes that
(31:30):
if I do it now and before we come in
and play a game, I mean, I'm starting so far
behind the eight ball. No one's gonna give me the
benefit of the doubt at all. But they're gonna go
through this season and they're gonna be They're gonna do
whatever they're gonna do and be what they're gonna be,
and they're gonna minimize Justin Herbert and the offseason it's
gonna be, Yeah, we don't need a guy like this.
We're gonna save a lot of money because I spend
(31:50):
a lot of money on a quarterback. I'm gonna draft
somewhere else, gonna get somebody else, and we're gonna trade
Justin Herbert. It just seems like he is a spare
part now with this Chargers team, that this should be
the guy front and center that Harbor should be talking about.
I'm excited to work with him, excitedball. But instead the
off season has all been about offensive line. Off offline.
We can put anybody behind center. Offensive line is what's
(32:11):
going to do it. All of these things are all clues.
They're all leading up to what's going to happen, and
that to this time next year, Justin Herbert will be
available for trade, the charge will get a bunch of
draft picks moving on, and they'll figure out their next quarterback.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
I like your bold proposition. I would argue this, you've
spent your money on him. He's in the box. You
already know this is good. He's good. Life is good
over there. The rest of your team needed in overhaul, right,
you need to. I mean, this is all your HGTV makeovers.
I don't know that bringing in guys that have been
(32:44):
broken down and run up a little bit in Baltimore's
the way to go, although Vidal again, dynasty leagues, you
want to go down to identities and even in deeper drafts. Yeah,
he's gonna be the guy that pops out of this.
But you know it ever hurts to make the phone call?
Why not try? Hey, what are you guys looking at?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
But you're not making that call unless you know the
possibility exists that maybe at some point you can shake
him free. Right, Why are you making that phone call?
Is anybody calling the Ravens about Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Legitimately? How how many guys are untouchable in this league?
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Truly, there's probably about five or ten that are untouchable,
and you would think Herbert would be one of them.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Mahomes is untouchable. Josh Allen's untouchable. Mahomes might might get
his ass kicked by bron Strowman shout out raw, but
Burrow's untouchable probably.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
After all the injuries. Hell, you could bring me in
GA got him to the Super super Bowl a couple
of years ago, and then he got hurt again. No,
there's life comes at you different world. But he's not
and he's not been bad. There's been no written, but
you can just see that. It seems like he's the
(33:58):
he's on the outside right now of what this team
is going to be going forward. As why Dwide's a
bold prediction. Next summer, next time, next year. Justin Herbert
Jets quarterback. I think he shows up in OTAs with
full face paint and the Road Warriors shoulder pads.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
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Speaker 2 (34:19):
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