December 7, 2024 • 41 mins
Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier debate if the Lakers have hit rock bottom. The guys help get you all set for a HUGE College Football weekend. And Rob Manfred spoke on the Golden At-Bat Rule!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hey Grady to Welcome in a beautiful Friday night, Championship Night.
Here Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harmon.
There's no Jason Smith tonight, off gallivanting in a winter wonderland,
and instead we got our guys, Arnie Span your broadcasting
legend at Stinking Genius one in the Twitter verse, a
(00:51):
man's sweating myriad bets reel and imagined each and every night, Arnie,
welcome in. It's thampion shit.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Thank you, I thought I was driving Tonight's okay, no
big deal.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
We'll get you want to be disconnected. We can do
this quickly. Steve de Seger's over there at the news desk.
I'm sure be happy to cut off your microphone and
take over.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
You always get bad when I say that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh no, get my head. We just have to, you know,
live in reality.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
No, we're good man, I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's like the calm before the storm. The championships tomorrow
one tonight. Of course, a wholestle of NFL games on Sunday,
though the playoff phrase isn't so good in the AFC,
to be honest with you, not a lot of intrigue there.
But there's still a lot of good games on Sunday.
So it's a lot of good action coming up this weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, as I always joke with the guys, we celebrate
all two hundred and seventy two of them because once
they go away, all we do is complain that they're
not there. Yes, right, we don't have football games to pick.
You don't get to tick Plank off by making fun
of the Raiders or talk about the Dolphin and all
of those things that you do. Yes, Arnie and Plank
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every Sunday night here Fox Sports Radio eight o'clock Pacific time,
eleven Eastern is where you find them. And Arnie gracious
enough to join us here on a beautiful Friday night.
We got NBA action, the Hawks and the Lakers getting
after it. They are in overtime, Hawks take a four
point lead. Lebron James is on the court, though Arnie
(02:24):
there was a lot of rumored speculation that he was
gonna do an operation shutdown because he showed up on
the injury report earlier today. So it looks like the
quest for eighty two remains.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
You know, I saw that.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Video where it looks like he's playing on one leg,
that he's just you know, not putting a full effort
in on defense.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I know he wasn't the defensive.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Jugger, not in his later years, but he's he's like
eighty percent Lebron, which is good enough in the NBA nowadays, Michael,
you don't have to be one hundred percent in today's
NBA to score points. So he's he's doing enough, But
that team needs a lot of help.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
They got they got to get younger.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Well, we're talking about it a little bit with Rick
Buker last last night, Wednesday night, Wednesday night, just about
the idea of how many guys do you really have
on this roster that you like? Yeah, I mean really,
if you're you're talking about building a team and rolling through,
you got reeves, you got connect and then you've got
the elder Statesmen that have been playing thirty five to
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forty minutes a night. So that's kind of where you're at,
and you try to fill it in from there. And
when Ad and Lebron have to run out thirty five
to forty minutes every night, it's a recipe for disaster
long term. And you know that.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
You know what's a recipe for disaster is when you're
playing a little bit over five hundred ball and there's
another team ahead of you or equal with you that
said that they want to go ahead and get a superstar,
like the Golden State Warriors. So could you imagine if
Golden State was able to pull off a trade for
Giannis just just hand them the NBA trophy.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
You might as well just just give him the NBA trophy.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Look at you just jumping ahead in the storyline or.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Did you put that back there?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well? You know what bother the emails that get sent
to you, you didn't. You didn't send me my five
pages of notes. I went. I was out all day
with my daughter at a at a big soccer thing,
and I'm like, all right, one of the the yellow
legal pad.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Pages I get, I sent it to you.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
No, I think you fell asleep. I yell, now get
I got nothing from you. I got a I can
send it. I've got all sorts of stories. So at
eight o'clock this morning, right before I'm getting in the car, I.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Actually I see it here to you, and justin I.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I still say, you're a liar. We normally Arnie comes
down Mount Sinai with the two tablets.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Yeah, ready to read all the time for the third.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
One, and then he drops another one. So there you
have it. Yeah, there you go. I see it. It
is buried within many myriad notes across the ne land.
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Arnie as Boise State tries to shut everybody up, taking
the wood to unlv here early third quarter. Genti one
hundred and fifty yards on eighteen carries, including a seventy
five yard touchdown run in the first half. You know
his Heisman odds had after the first half performance that
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he put up. You had a fourteen carries one hundred
and thirty four yards in that score. At halftime, his
odds went from twelve to one to six to one.
To try to chase down Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I saw the seventy five yard run right before the half.
I mean that put him way over you, like you said.
I mean, he's a lot of fun to watch. How
about is this.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Guy for real? When you play big time? Tomas?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I know he did it against Oregon, he had like
one hundred and ninety something yards. I'd like to see
what he can do against talent like that. Once we
get into the playoffs, they're gonna go ahead win this game.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
They're an intriguing team.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Are they good enough to go ahead and pull like
a first round upset? Especially if they are matchup with
the right team in the first round.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I can't wait for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
This is exactly what we wanted when we got twelve
teams to begin with.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, all of it. We just wanted a little bit
of juice to it right. Four teams. We always had
the debates and let's face it, as we talked about
for years, aren't Hee you filling in? And what Smith
and I do? And obviously the shows you do with
Chris playing man, it's a TV show. So where do
we find some intrigue? Where do we find some underdogs?
And certainly when we to extrapolate further, I mean a
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lot of attention, a lot of dollars and eyeballs and everything,
as we do with the National Football League gets how
do we find those diamonds in the rough, those guys
that are going to translate to the next level. And
the one thing I love, I mean, the guy's a
fire plug five nine, two fifteen is what he weighs in.
When we talk about Ashton genty and you know he
(07:23):
bounces off would be tacklers. And again you could go
through the schedule and and do the well, these are
not you know, the the big boys as it were,
Its like, well, looks like a guy that's more than
willing to create enough contact and he can burst. He's
got to burst at the second level. Right, So how
does that translate in today's day in the NFL as
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we watch a little bit of a regression back to
football that you and I grew up with before Dan
Marino and all those guys started changing up the landscape,
bombing the ball all over the place. Is run the football,
playing defense and kicking field goals, particularly with everybody now
having or most teams anyway, a competent field goal kicker.
(08:09):
And keep see, I have to be careful with this
because I'm making fun of the Bears while I do it.
You know, competent field goal unit that can a get
a kickoff but be actually complete the process from fifty
plus yards. So running backs are becoming more viable again.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Oh and you know what's great about him is he'll
be a steal for somebody. The reason why you'll have
the two quarterbacks be being taken ahead of him. I
think they'll be three wide receivers, one defensive player. Somebody's
gonna get him at like number nine or number ten. Usually,
if the quarterbacks weren't so overvalued, he'd be right up there,
top five, maybe number four, but he'll drop down like
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nine to ten. Somebody will get a bargain. Somebody may
trade up for him. Maybe he'll be a good team,
not necessarily with a bad record, you know, somebody looking
for a running back, so somebody will get a bargain
with him inside the top.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, I've seen some mock drafts that have him falling
into the the middle of the round where where at
present you you'd be maybe looking at the Cowboys would
find their next guy there. Mid they're at the current rate,
right they're what twelve thirteenth, Remember there's a there's as
bad as they are. There's a lot of bad teams
(09:22):
here in the National Football League right now. They would
be thirteenth at five and seven.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Well, he'd be a perfect fit there. There's no way
fans or about that.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
We know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, you need
a running back. But you know, the other thing is
you always have to look at how many teams can
finally just pause and put that pause button and say
we actually need to build infrastructure, you know, alignment on
either side of the ball, as so many teams issue
that bears and go find the other shiny toy as
(09:53):
much as I love my guy Roman Dune's say. Uh,
the bottom line is give it. Give the Bears another offensive.
Maybe it solved some of the eels. Again. I'm wishing
and hoping out of Friday Night. It's the Christmas season.
I can hope for that, right, Isn't that what all
those Hallmark and Lifetime movies tell me?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
No, I wish hard enough something my life to change it.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Everybody does those Hallmark movies now, man, everybody does Christmas. No,
no matter what network you're on, you go ahead and
see it all over the place.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
It's gotten out of control.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I'm starting to write a few for us man, you know,
lead lead roles for the Motley Crew that I got
assembled here.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
My wife loves it. She gets sucked in every time.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
She's like, I'm going to bed next together, Like four
hours later, she's already in movie number two and getting
sucked into these things.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It's and the acting's absolutely horrible.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
In other words, you've also been sucked into them for
those four hours.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, but try to by the lead.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You tried to sideswipe it and say no, it's all
my wife, and they're like, well, but the acting is
terrible and the scripts are bad.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I'm just thinking, why have I not in it? Why
have I not?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Like the innkeeper that says the guy comes up and goes,
where did Susie go?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I go?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
She was mad at you, and she went to the airport.
She said she's done with you. No, it's a misunderstanding.
That was just my cousin. That wasn't another girl. Oh well,
get in my pickup truck. I'll throw the axe on
the ground and we'll race to the airport. I know
the guy that works the TSA, he'll stop her from
getting on the plane.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
You just went full love triangle and then you ended
it with a guy with an axe. The hell are
we doing here? As we just get started here on
a beautiful Friday, I would be remiss if we didn't
talk about the other championships that are out there. We
got Conference USA and we've got the American Athletic Championship.
Army up twenty eight to seven over Tulane. And what's
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always fun and exciting when you get into the Army
box scores is that, well you don't see passes thrown.
As we sit here, six thirteen left in the third
bryce and daily at halftime I'm head thrown zero passes
with the twenty one seven lead. He's up to two
for two for seventeen yards for the Black Knights as
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they're up twenty eight to seven in that one. We
talked about the Boise State UNLV game twenty one nothing there,
So you know you've got burials across in these different
conference title games. I was open for a little bit
of excitement, chaos on a Friday night. I haven't done.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah, wish yet, y Yeah, there was none out there.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
What would how crazy would that be if like Army,
like back in the old days, start going through the
tournament and winning this thing, and jezus, I wonder if
people just start jumping aboard and in the you got
all the cadets and everything.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
How crazy would that be?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Always got to love it. Jacksonville State all over Western
Kentucky as well. It's fifty two twelve in that one,
Boise State twenty one nothing, middle of the third Army
over two lane, twenty eight seven. So we'll keep you
a prize to those. We've got the Lakers three point
lead over the haw in the final minute of the
(13:03):
overtime period there as well. We've got other NBA games.
It's a full slate here, Arnie Spanier. Next hour, Rich
Hornberger jumps in talking a little college football, little National
Football League. But coming up next we'll stay with the
college football playoff because it's politicking season, Arnie Spaniard. So
you thought the political season was over. Now we're just
(13:25):
getting warmed up. And you know who we get next.
They want the computer overlords back in our lives. We'll
talk all about that as we continue sticking Genius one
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Speaker 3 (14:53):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith's Show with
Me Mike Carmon. No Jason Smith tonight. It instead our
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you find him Bobby over at Swollen Dome. Of course,
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Speaker 5 (15:28):
Forever absolutely my friend in.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
The line of Arnie Spanier greeting cards coming to a
store near you. In twenty twenty five, you had a
big opportunity with the UNLV Rebels finally moving the ball
on Boise State. They get turned away at the doorstep,
turnover on downs in the red zone, and then we
get a massive shot. You were during the break arguing
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about a call under the basket the Hawks and the Lakers.
In overtime, Lebron James a chase down block which was
eventually ruled that it was off the Hawks player.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Impossible to see that. I don't care. You could slow
it down to the Millsex well.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And it was a long review and it's the antithesis
of what you're trying to do in a review process.
But after extended looks, replays, et cetera, the ball was
awarded to the Lakers, ad gets filed, but you finally
have a huge Tray Young three point shot that ultimately
gives the Hawks a huge home win. Lebron with the
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last second three point shot, it goes away and missus
a heavy ball that he hit off the back iron.
So yes, the Lakers with a big loss. And I
can't wait for the JJ Reddick post.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
What's it gonna say? We were horrible? It's unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
We were a joke today because it's good their defense
is I mean they they're giving up one hundred and
thirty four points. I know it was overtime, and they
gave up a wide ot out of everybody on that team,
a wide open three point shot to him, so to
Trey Young. I don't even know what they were thinking
at that point. And they lose this game. They let
this one slip right through their fingers.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
You got seventeen points off the bench between Christy and Russell.
But here here's the crux of it. All five starters
in double figures. You shoot nearly fifty two percent from
the floor. Anthony Davis for the night, thirty eight, ten
and eight. Wow, Lebron goes thirty nine, ten and eleven,
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and you lose to the Hawks. You give up one
hundred and thirty four points.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
You know what, you know what?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Lebron's saying in the locker room right about he's getting
into the locker room right about now. He's walking over
to JJ Reddick, and before jj Reddick had addressed the team,
he whispers in his ear, get Yannis now and walks away.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Are you obsessed with Giannis and Tenna kopon tonight? That's
the second reference. We're twenty five minutes into the show.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
He's a superstar and he could think what he would
do to the lakes.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Let me ask you, let me riddle, Arnie is a
freaking the sheets? That that is? You know, we know
Arnie's past movie history too, justin in his head. Yeah, no, No,
He's talked about this quite openly. Right, didn't you appear
in some kind of never really wasn't gandalous film? Or
it was it never actually released.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
It wasn't porn or anything? Goes like, you know, one
of the the kids are still up?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
What do you mean? Yeah, I mean you went right
down the deep dark path. I mean, we use we
have expansive language skills here on the show, Arnie Spaniards.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
It was my only fans account.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I'm sorry, Well, I mean I have no doubt that
that that exists in an alternate universe, no question about that.
Tough loss for the Lakers. Will keep an eye on
the post game for for some of the audio, because
we saw Reddick after the last game talking about you know,
I'm not gonna blame the players, but but and for you,
(19:06):
I mean, you made a career out of calling out
Laker fans. So we got that going in the background
as well. Championship Night in the collegiate world, at least
the first few college play championship games are tonight. We've
got a lot of the big boys and we'll pick
some games and have some fun with that as we
talk it up a little later, Arnie. But the other
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thing that goes on during this process, and we've watched
it for several weeks, but now that it's actually you know,
the winning time as it were, is these rankings come
together for the college football Playoffs. You got everybody doing
their stump speeches like it's the political season all over again,
right that we just went through SMU coach Rhett Lashley. Hey,
you know, we're number eight in the latest College Football
(19:50):
Playoffs selection rankings, so we should be in the twelve
team field no matter what. Happens, they'll face off against
number seventeen Clemson Davoswiney. After the early struggles for Clemson,
they've rallied back now nine and three in opportunity to
go and win the title game and create a bit
(20:12):
of chaos, because whenever you have the concept of three
loss teams making the playoffs, is even if it were
in year one and it's still proof of concept, has
people outraged. But I wanted to throw this out you
as well. Tennessee Athletic director Danny White, he loves it right.
Expand to twelve, let's go to sixteen. It's all fine
(20:32):
and good. Here's the thing, though, quote with respect to
this process, I'd like to see us be a little
more objective. I don't think there's anything wrong with the
ranking system of the old BCS. So talking about the
eye test, the idea that you would watch these teams
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and do the which one of these is not like
the other, in addition to all your strength of schedule
and all the other rankings and statistical data that you
can spit out just saying no, no, no, no, let's
put it all in and get our all knowing algorithm
to spit out the twelve teams and remove the human
eye test. Arnie Spaniard, are you in favor of robot
(21:15):
overlords for this process?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
No, absolutely not. There's no way. I can't.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
First of all, I can't trust a computer. There's too
many times that.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Will say are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And we'll say, how did this team get number three
when they're not even in the top ten. I'm not
gonna do that. It's really not that difficult. I don't
even know why people are making a big deal about this.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
They're only to me.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
In my opinion is the controversy is if Alabama's going
to get in, and Alabama's gonna get in, they're gonna
get in over Miami.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Miami won't. Alabama will be.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Like a what a eleven seed or something to that effect,
maybe a ten seed. But they have three losses. I'm
not outraged about that. It's a made for TV show,
like you said, so I would put in Alabama also
a great fan base, a good following, a good team.
They also have more wins against top ten teams or
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top twenty teams than Miami.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
They've done a good job.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, they lost Oklahoma embarrassing fashion, but that's still only
controversy in my eye is if Alabama.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Should make it over the other ones.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, I mean they have a couple of bad losses
on the schedule. I mean, Vanderbilt ended up as a
five hundred team. You had the loss to Tennessee and
then obviously the twenty four to three loss to Oklahoma,
and I know I had to tune in and hear
a little of Plank talking about that one, and you know,
rushing the field and everything where you had myriad members
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of the Oklahoma community going. You got to give him
to grace. I mean, we're not used to this this,
We're not used to seasons like this. I wish I
had that kind of problem, aren't they? That game, by
the way, my teams.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
That game may be the reason why Milroe comes back
for another year at Alabama at quarterback.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
He was horrible, absolutely horrible.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Now, maybe they forgot about the game, and one game
movie shouldn't define you, but he might have thought about, like,
I'm not ready for the NFL, and he's probably not.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
He could certainly use another year.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You know, we've always talked about does the NFL do
a good job developing quarterbacks? The answers no, he could
certainly do another year of starting.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Well, I think a lot of it comes back to Arnie.
I mean a lot of times when you're getting drafted
in the first round of the NFL draft, let's call
it what it is. If you're going near the top
of the draft, you're going to an organization generally speaking,
not in every case, but generally speaking, you're talking about
organizations and teams bereft of talent. So you're going to
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be the building block. And suddenly, while that clock is ticking,
you're supposed to go play meaningful snaps, try to be
a savior as things get built around you. Whereas you know,
for all its faults, you know, and again not to
make it all about me, but well sometimes it is
is you know, you look at the Bears and so
(24:01):
you're talking, Yeah, I mean seven wins a year ago.
Defense came alive after Eberflues took over there or whatever.
But late game situations down distance, decision making clearly catastrophic.
We've we've documented that for weeks here on the program.
And and for me, you know, for three years, if
anybody had listened to me with my bullhorn since Ebraflues
(24:24):
was hired, but all of that to say, Caleb Williams
comes into probably one of the greatest situations that you
have for Jade and Daniels a little bit of the
same thing in Washington. You may not like anybody individually
beyond Terry McLaurin in terms of their skill position players,
but it's undeniable that you at least had complimentary pieces
(24:45):
that could go to work. Now second half of the
year and down the stretch. Here we'll see what Kingsbury's
offense is. They got a nice little bounce back last
week with the forty two point performance after a couple
of weeks of kind of sliding backwards, aren't he. But
all of that to say, you know, extra games at
the collegiate level, where you can also go make millions
(25:06):
of dollars from your nil collective, right right, all of
those things, you know, we just don't have patience at
the NFL level. We expect guys to be able to
go in and compete immediately, and it doesn't necessarily ever
get that chance to slow down. I mean, look at
look at what just a couple of games of all right,
sit down, let's regroup, let's look at film. Look what
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Bryce Young, much different player just taking a couple of
weeks to just pause and reset things. But that's not
a grace that's shown many young quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
No, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I also I wrote a topic that we should talk
about young players that are on bad teams that we
don't think about twice, but if they were on a
good team, they'd be playing so much better. One thing
I wanted to back up to, you're talking about your Bears.
Aren't you the least bit excited about the rumors that
Bezos wants to buy the Bears? I mean, he's got
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a All the whatever you have in your pocket is
less what he has.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
He has all the money in the world out.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I think I think we uh the Bears and Bezos
just took him out. But all of that to say is,
you know, rumor, conjecture, speculation, Bezos or anybody else coming
over the top family business curiosity as to to if
and when that actually would come to fruition of the
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hallis McCaskey family actually deciding to opt out on a
revenue stream that is just so immense.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You may, oh, yes, you do make, but sometimes when
when the teams passed down, you know, uh, just like
they were in Buffalo, when Ralph Wilson passed away, they
couldn't sell that team fast enough to the Pegulas. I
mean it took like a day. I mean it, seriously,
it took like less than a year to get that done.
Some some people want to keep it like they do
it in Seattle. Some people want to get rid of it.
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I don't know what situation they would be in.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Well, I mean, you've seen all the mccaskey's work there,
you know, Yes, that's true, right, whether they stayed around
or the family business decided to excize them. Think whatever
you will of George and company. I mean George. I'm
convinced part of the reason that they actually got rid
of eberflus Arny was that he was doing a lot
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of work in the parking lots and tailgates and shaking
hands and kissing babies. I think he gave a couple
of fans his phone number, so when everything went down
on Thanksgiving, he started getting notices from the fans and
look at all this great Thanksgiving spread and you ruined it.
Eber Flu's ruined it. He's gotta go.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, he had to go anyway, just the way that
last two of the way the games ended the frustration
just mounted. The way the Bears let the situation go
now was wrong also, but it doesn't really make a difference.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
They got rid of him and it's time to move on,
so we'll see who they go with next.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, I mean, but back to the issue at hand.
I mean, when we're talking about the college football see
how you derailed things out for that. Yeah, all right,
let's get back on course for a minute here before
we bring in Steve de Sager to update us on
what's going on here. Is just the the idea, I
like the mix, right, we need some computer modeling, but
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you're not going to get every variable included. They're in right,
that will.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Never happen because they want to be able to decide
to put like a team like Alabama.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But it just's a lot of things, right, there's a
lot of things unless you're going to go into sales
and marketing and everything else. Because Alabama, whatever they are
on the field, there's a lot of folks that are
gonna hate watch other SEC programs and then the nation
at large because there they are again.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
And then Mike, if it wasn't Alabama, whoever the next
team up was with three losses, should get in any way,
Who am I going to give it to? Am I
going to give it to one of the other one
big conferences?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Am I going to give it to another Big ten
team though they already got four?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Am I going to give it to a Big twelve team?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
No, they'll deserve a second bit out there. So who
am I really going to give it to? There's really
no controversy in this. It deserves to go to another SEC.
Whoever's the next team up, and that just happened to
be Alabama.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, And I think the ultimate line that came out
of all of this comes from our own executive producer,
Justin Frossberg, who said, for Miami, you lost to Syracuse,
Yes they did. You had the opportunity, it was on
your plate, narrow escapes early in the season, and then
ultimately when it mattered when you needed you know, the
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rubber meets the road, you lose and give up a
twenty one dozering lead in a big spot. He's already
spanner in for Jason Smith, that stinking genius one where
you find him eight o'clock Pacific Sunday nights alongside Chris
Blank our buddy there. Out of Oklahoma. You find me
over at on Twitter at Swollen Dolme, at Blue Sky,
(29:54):
at Mike Harmon. Yes, I got to get my name
there and eventually we'll start posting some chaos there as well.
Did draw you in, But first, hey, let's go to
the news desk, because we've got a man. He's all knowing.
He's like the great and all powerful Oz. He is
Steve Desager.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
By the way, you.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Talked about the quote of we should just go back
to the BCS days and have computers to say no, no,
This is a step backward. The immediate first thing I
thought of about twenty years ago. Do you recall when
Pete Carroll was at USC, they were ranked number one
in both polls and were not selected for the NEST
Championship camp. So Nick Saban won a title with LSU
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without having to face Pete Carroll's USC team in the final.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
They beat Oklahoma instead.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
SC was twelve and one that year, and the one
loss was in triple overtime against Aaron Rodgers at CAL.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That was it.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
It was a stunning run for USC. And remember it
was seven straight BCS Bowl games most of them Rose Bowls,
all of them wins, except for that last second loss
to Texas. But despite being number one and some still
voted them, coaches like Lou Holtz and others still noted
them number one after their Rosewell win, they were not selected.
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The computers did not select a team that went twelve
and one for the national title game.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yet East Coast bias didn't like the PAC ten.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
God, yes he's got computers.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Well. College football.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Tonight we have three conference championship games on Fox TV.
It's now early fourth quarter at the cold of Boise
and yeah, a lot of cold weather for the three
games tonight, Upper twenties and boise Ia tenth rag. Boise
State leads twenty one to nothing over twentyeth rank UNLV
early in the fourth. Superstar running back Ashton Gentia the
Broncos twenty six carries one hundred and eighty three yards
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in a touchdown that includes a seventy five yard TD
in the first half. The American Athletic Conference Championship is
at number twenty four. Army Cadets lead Tulane twenty eight
to seven early in the fourth and the Conference USA
title game also about thirty degrees went to Jacksonville State
at home in Alabama against Western Kentucky fifty two to twelve.
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The final playoff bracket will be announced this Sunday, along
with the bowl matchups. Utah States new coach is Bronco
Menden Hall with a six year contract after one season
in New Mexico. He's a former BYU as well as
Virginia coach. Georgia Tech gave coach brank Ke a new
contract through twenty twenty nine. Arkansas State extended the contract
(32:28):
of coach Butch Jones through twenty twenty nine. Oklahoma States
offered coach Mike Gundy a reduced contract and it wants
to put the savings toward nil money. Oklahoma State was
zero to nine in conference this year. Among the NFL notes,
Jets running back Bresee Hall expected to be out this weekend,
as his defensive back Sauce Gardner and Eagles wide receiver
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DeVante Smith will return Sunday from a hamstring injury. The
Mets are signing pitcher Clay Holmes as a starter. He
was a reliever with the Yankees. In men's college basketball,
eight minutes to Go, oh Number nineteen, Illinois leads at
Northwestern forty six to forty. In the NBA, Atlanta won
at six straight game, beating the Lakers in overtime, one
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thirty four, one thirty two, Yeah whatever. Trey Young thirty
one points and twenty assists, including a late three pointer
Indiana and Sacramento, with wins Philadelphia and Boston as well.
Celtics are nineteen and four after edging Milwaukee one eleven,
one oh five. Jason Tatum with thirty four points. Back
to you, Thanks so much, Steve. The im honest proposal
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coming up next. Yes, it came up earlier this week.
Already is being shot down, but I'd sleep with one
eye open. We'll tell you what all of that is
about next. As we come to you from the tirac
dot com. Fox Sports Radio Studios, it's spaniar in for
Jason Smith on Mike Harmon.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
To this, be sure to catch live editions of The
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Speaker 3 (33:55):
Greetings and welcome man. Blessed to be with you on
a beautiful Friday night here Fox Sports. It's Radio, the
team's fully inassemblance. We've got our guy, Alex ty Shirt
manning the boards and making us sound so pretty. We've
got Justin Frosberg, our executive producer, Steve Disager. You heard
him at the news desk with all the updates on
the night already span your in for Jason Smith. I'm
(34:15):
Mike Carmen. Thanks for spending a few minutes of your
Friday night with us. Wherever you're going, however you're getting around, traffic, weather,
all of those things, chaos on a Friday night.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Will traffic pretty bad there on a Friday night?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah, it's Los Angeles. I mean, what are you gonna do?
I just met in general. Wasn't gonna say woe is me?
We had those conversations off air. We're related to individual
circumstance around here, because you know, there's always a high
speed chase or something that we're clocking as you well know, Arnie,
as we roll through on a Friday night. But you know,
(34:49):
we appreciate folks for giving us a little bit of
their time. You know, there's plenty of options out there,
so we we want to make sure, you know, everybody
feels the love. One guy who was at Rob Mamford,
everything he says usually is met with the raspberries. The
latest the golden at bat idea that was profferd earlier
(35:12):
this week started to leak out. The idea of at
any point once a game, you had the opportunity to
just say, hey, you know what, I want this guy
into my lineup now, regardless of where he is in
the order, etc. I mean, obviously you have a lot
of logistical questions of how you make this work. Right
If the guy's on second base, do you suddenly get
(35:34):
a ghost runner that gets to run in for him
and then he goes back to the plate. If he
just struck out, fly out, whatever, maybe just hit a
home run? Does he get to go right back up
to the plate right stare at you again? All of
those things to say, Rob Mamford quote to go from
the conversation stage actually showing up in MLB is a
very long road. You don't like the idea, I wouldn't
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be too concerned about it right now. In other words,
let's throw stuff against the walls, see what way the
winds blow and and how people responded. If nothing else,
it made for some great little scenario drivings, and I'm
sure the AI bots had some fun with it as well.
Aren't he. But the fact that before we even start
the winter, you know, the owner's meetings and everything. As
(36:17):
we get to free agency, the next stage is Soto
and everything else. It's kind of funny. It's like, no, no, no, no,
I just it's done. Don't bring it up anymore. Well,
and we're throwing this away a.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Couple of things on this.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
You know, I was actually up when it came out
Wednesday morning, I think it was leaked, and Jonas was
on the air for one more segment. I said, Jonas
the story, and he writes back to me, is this
can't be true? And I said, you know, I'm not sure,
And he didn't want to go out of the air
with it because it was his last segment, so they
(36:50):
just waited, and I get first, I didn't believe it.
I thought that maybe I got fooled by an account, which.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Has happened to you many times.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Numerous times, so I figure that this can't be right.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
But I saw it from but you've still felt like
you needed to send a time while if.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Somebody's like an idiot, it's gonna be him, not me,
so I.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Want to You don't think he would have then come
on the next day, I would have gone all over
social media posting pictures of you. So I figured this
guy's got a bad jump shot and he gives.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
You fagus stories.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
So and so it turns out to be true that
I'm reading everybody's responses like this is the worst thing ever,
and I really couldn't believe it. It's it's not I know,
you're they're tinkering with the game. We've tinkered with the
game in football, defenseless receiver, don't touch the quarterback. Look
what we've done the kickoffs, Mike. Nobody's saying anything about that.
(37:47):
We've made all kinds of changes in the NFL. Nobody says, boom,
we'll put the other changes we made in baseball, the
pitch clock.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I mean, we had the DH that we aded.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Sure, it's been a while, but we had It's only
going to be a matter of time, you know, before
obviously we just.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Do the whole league there.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
But it's it's absolutely crazy, all the changes we've made.
So it's something we've got to consider. But I think
it's taking it too much.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, I mean, I think overall, Arnie, I mean, when
we look at it, you go and you make changes,
and you tinker with it minor league level and then
try to expand from there. The fact that you know,
you bring up the universal DH and all of that,
I mean, you know where it's there, and we've got
it going right. Adopted National League in twenty twenty two,
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show Hao Todi wins the MVP as a DH this year.
All all of those things and all the hand ringing
for years, my guy Harold Baines, go back to Edgar
Martinez and on down the line. But yeah, some of
them are are pretty radical changes. You talk about baseball
like I'll forever hate the ghost runner, the banning of
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the shift and pitch clock. I get it, it's made
for TV event like that. That's what we're trying to do.
Make it palatable. Get it on, get them on, get
them over, get them in. I think there's some love
for what the soccer TV windows look like. In two hours,
you're in and out right, unless you go into crazy
ass stoppage time because crazy things happen. I mean, it's
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it's a pretty easy window. And so for baseball, you
know they're trying to get it timed out like a
Mark Burley stat. I mean, you know, start all those
years ago, when he was with the White Sox and on,
it's like, hey, get the ball and get back on
the mound and throw your next pitch. So oh, that's say.
I mean, it takes away some of the psychological battle
(39:38):
of waiting out your opponent and all of those kind
of things, which I kind of enjoyed. But I'm anna
sayis that way? I guess. Likewise, the shift like learn
not to hit, learn not to hit, we don't need
to ban that, you know, if you can actually place
a bunt every once in a while, god forbid, the
bigger bases, the throwing over to first a second time,
(40:00):
like all of those changes. Are they huge to the game?
Speaker 5 (40:05):
No, yes, they're big changes, Mike.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
But but they're not. But they're not necessarily noticed, is
my point. Right. Huge changes are the ones where it
really substantively affects the fabric of the game, Like the kickoff, right.
How many kickoffs were returned each year for touchdowns? Few?
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Right?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Right? So when you go against the perception or reality
of safety checks, then a lot of it is all right, shrug,
move on, as long as the basics, uh, and the
meat and potatoes are still there. Do what you gotta do.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
You do what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
And look, remember there's trying to speed up the game,
that trying to make it more palatable.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
There's a problem.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Not only that, there's not only a problem with baseball
and people tuning in, there's a problem in the NBA
and viewership also. You gotta go ahead. They're thinking of
different ways to get people engaged.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Otherwise you're in for a long haul.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
There.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
You're in for a long run if you don't go
ahead and get that.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Basketball is a whole other thing. I mean, the length
of the season and the buy in game to game.
You know the fact that Lebron and ad both played today, right,
that was the report Lebron's gonna take an injury slash
rest day given their recent slide. And you know what,
I think that's where we're gonna end up. Circling back
(41:22):
here as we continue our two of the program. Coming
up next year, Arnie, we've got Rich Orenberger at twenty
but JJ Reddick meeting with the meeting with the press,
so we'll get some commentary coming up next as we
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Speaker 3 (00:29):
Hey Grady to Welcome in a beautiful Friday night, Championship Night.
Here Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harmon.
There's no Jason Smith tonight, off gallivanting in a winter wonderland,
and instead we got our guys, Arnie Span your broadcasting
legend at Stinking Genius one in the Twitter verse, a
(00:51):
man's sweating myriad bets reel and imagined each and every night, Arnie,
welcome in. It's thampion shit.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Thank you, I thought I was driving Tonight's okay, no
big deal.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
We'll get you want to be disconnected. We can do
this quickly. Steve de Seger's over there at the news desk.
I'm sure be happy to cut off your microphone and
take over.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
You always get bad when I say that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh no, get my head. We just have to, you know,
live in reality.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
No, we're good man, I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
It's like the calm before the storm. The championships tomorrow
one tonight. Of course, a wholestle of NFL games on Sunday,
though the playoff phrase isn't so good in the AFC,
to be honest with you, not a lot of intrigue there.
But there's still a lot of good games on Sunday.
So it's a lot of good action coming up this weekend.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, as I always joke with the guys, we celebrate
all two hundred and seventy two of them because once
they go away, all we do is complain that they're
not there. Yes, right, we don't have football games to pick.
You don't get to tick Plank off by making fun
of the Raiders or talk about the Dolphin and all
of those things that you do. Yes, Arnie and Plank
(02:03):
every Sunday night here Fox Sports Radio eight o'clock Pacific time,
eleven Eastern is where you find them. And Arnie gracious
enough to join us here on a beautiful Friday night.
We got NBA action, the Hawks and the Lakers getting
after it. They are in overtime, Hawks take a four
point lead. Lebron James is on the court, though Arnie
(02:24):
there was a lot of rumored speculation that he was
gonna do an operation shutdown because he showed up on
the injury report earlier today. So it looks like the
quest for eighty two remains.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
You know, I saw that.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Video where it looks like he's playing on one leg,
that he's just you know, not putting a full effort
in on defense.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
I know he wasn't the defensive.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Jugger, not in his later years, but he's he's like
eighty percent Lebron, which is good enough in the NBA nowadays, Michael,
you don't have to be one hundred percent in today's
NBA to score points. So he's he's doing enough, But
that team needs a lot of help.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
They got they got to get younger.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Well, we're talking about it a little bit with Rick
Buker last last night, Wednesday night, Wednesday night, just about
the idea of how many guys do you really have
on this roster that you like? Yeah, I mean really,
if you're you're talking about building a team and rolling through,
you got reeves, you got connect and then you've got
the elder Statesmen that have been playing thirty five to
(03:19):
forty minutes a night. So that's kind of where you're at,
and you try to fill it in from there. And
when Ad and Lebron have to run out thirty five
to forty minutes every night, it's a recipe for disaster
long term. And you know that.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
You know what's a recipe for disaster is when you're
playing a little bit over five hundred ball and there's
another team ahead of you or equal with you that
said that they want to go ahead and get a superstar,
like the Golden State Warriors. So could you imagine if
Golden State was able to pull off a trade for
Giannis just just hand them the NBA trophy.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
You might as well just just give him the NBA trophy.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Look at you just jumping ahead in the storyline or.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Did you put that back there?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well? You know what bother the emails that get sent
to you, you didn't. You didn't send me my five
pages of notes. I went. I was out all day
with my daughter at a at a big soccer thing,
and I'm like, all right, one of the the yellow
legal pad.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Pages I get, I sent it to you.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
No, I think you fell asleep. I yell, now get
I got nothing from you. I got a I can
send it. I've got all sorts of stories. So at
eight o'clock this morning, right before I'm getting in the car, I.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Actually I see it here to you, and justin I.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I still say, you're a liar. We normally Arnie comes
down Mount Sinai with the two tablets.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Yeah, ready to read all the time for the third.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
One, and then he drops another one. So there you
have it. Yeah, there you go. I see it. It
is buried within many myriad notes across the ne land.
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Arnie as Boise State tries to shut everybody up, taking
the wood to unlv here early third quarter. Genti one
hundred and fifty yards on eighteen carries, including a seventy
five yard touchdown run in the first half. You know
his Heisman odds had after the first half performance that
(05:52):
he put up. You had a fourteen carries one hundred
and thirty four yards in that score. At halftime, his
odds went from twelve to one to six to one.
To try to chase down Travis Hunter.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
I saw the seventy five yard run right before the half.
I mean that put him way over you, like you said.
I mean, he's a lot of fun to watch. How
about is this.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
Guy for real? When you play big time? Tomas?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
I know he did it against Oregon, he had like
one hundred and ninety something yards. I'd like to see
what he can do against talent like that. Once we
get into the playoffs, they're gonna go ahead win this game.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
They're an intriguing team.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Are they good enough to go ahead and pull like
a first round upset? Especially if they are matchup with
the right team in the first round.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
I can't wait for the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
This is exactly what we wanted when we got twelve
teams to begin with.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, all of it. We just wanted a little bit
of juice to it right. Four teams. We always had
the debates and let's face it, as we talked about
for years, aren't Hee you filling in? And what Smith
and I do? And obviously the shows you do with
Chris playing man, it's a TV show. So where do
we find some intrigue? Where do we find some underdogs?
And certainly when we to extrapolate further, I mean a
(07:02):
lot of attention, a lot of dollars and eyeballs and everything,
as we do with the National Football League gets how
do we find those diamonds in the rough, those guys
that are going to translate to the next level. And
the one thing I love, I mean, the guy's a
fire plug five nine, two fifteen is what he weighs in.
When we talk about Ashton genty and you know he
(07:23):
bounces off would be tacklers. And again you could go
through the schedule and and do the well, these are
not you know, the the big boys as it were,
Its like, well, looks like a guy that's more than
willing to create enough contact and he can burst. He's
got to burst at the second level. Right, So how
does that translate in today's day in the NFL as
(07:46):
we watch a little bit of a regression back to
football that you and I grew up with before Dan
Marino and all those guys started changing up the landscape,
bombing the ball all over the place. Is run the football,
playing defense and kicking field goals, particularly with everybody now
having or most teams anyway, a competent field goal kicker.
(08:09):
And keep see, I have to be careful with this
because I'm making fun of the Bears while I do it.
You know, competent field goal unit that can a get
a kickoff but be actually complete the process from fifty
plus yards. So running backs are becoming more viable again.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Oh and you know what's great about him is he'll
be a steal for somebody. The reason why you'll have
the two quarterbacks be being taken ahead of him. I
think they'll be three wide receivers, one defensive player. Somebody's
gonna get him at like number nine or number ten. Usually,
if the quarterbacks weren't so overvalued, he'd be right up there,
top five, maybe number four, but he'll drop down like
(08:46):
nine to ten. Somebody will get a bargain. Somebody may
trade up for him. Maybe he'll be a good team,
not necessarily with a bad record, you know, somebody looking
for a running back, so somebody will get a bargain
with him inside the top.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, I've seen some mock drafts that have him falling
into the the middle of the round where where at
present you you'd be maybe looking at the Cowboys would
find their next guy there. Mid they're at the current rate,
right they're what twelve thirteenth, Remember there's a there's as
bad as they are. There's a lot of bad teams
(09:22):
here in the National Football League right now. They would
be thirteenth at five and seven.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Well, he'd be a perfect fit there. There's no way
fans or about that.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
We know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, you need
a running back. But you know, the other thing is
you always have to look at how many teams can
finally just pause and put that pause button and say
we actually need to build infrastructure, you know, alignment on
either side of the ball, as so many teams issue
that bears and go find the other shiny toy as
(09:53):
much as I love my guy Roman Dune's say. Uh,
the bottom line is give it. Give the Bears another offensive.
Maybe it solved some of the eels. Again. I'm wishing
and hoping out of Friday Night. It's the Christmas season.
I can hope for that, right, Isn't that what all
those Hallmark and Lifetime movies tell me?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:12):
No, I wish hard enough something my life to change it.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Everybody does those Hallmark movies now, man, everybody does Christmas. No,
no matter what network you're on, you go ahead and
see it all over the place.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
It's gotten out of control.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I'm starting to write a few for us man, you know,
lead lead roles for the Motley Crew that I got
assembled here.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
My wife loves it. She gets sucked in every time.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
She's like, I'm going to bed next together, Like four
hours later, she's already in movie number two and getting
sucked into these things.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It's and the acting's absolutely horrible.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
In other words, you've also been sucked into them for
those four hours.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, but try to by the lead.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You tried to sideswipe it and say no, it's all
my wife, and they're like, well, but the acting is
terrible and the scripts are bad.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I'm just thinking, why have I not in it? Why
have I not?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Like the innkeeper that says the guy comes up and goes,
where did Susie go?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
I go?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
She was mad at you, and she went to the airport.
She said she's done with you. No, it's a misunderstanding.
That was just my cousin. That wasn't another girl. Oh well,
get in my pickup truck. I'll throw the axe on
the ground and we'll race to the airport. I know
the guy that works the TSA, he'll stop her from
getting on the plane.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
You just went full love triangle and then you ended
it with a guy with an axe. The hell are
we doing here? As we just get started here on
a beautiful Friday, I would be remiss if we didn't
talk about the other championships that are out there. We
got Conference USA and we've got the American Athletic Championship.
Army up twenty eight to seven over Tulane. And what's
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always fun and exciting when you get into the Army
box scores is that, well you don't see passes thrown.
As we sit here, six thirteen left in the third
bryce and daily at halftime I'm head thrown zero passes
with the twenty one seven lead. He's up to two
for two for seventeen yards for the Black Knights as
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they're up twenty eight to seven in that one. We
talked about the Boise State UNLV game twenty one nothing there,
So you know you've got burials across in these different
conference title games. I was open for a little bit
of excitement, chaos on a Friday night. I haven't done.
Speaker 5 (12:25):
Yeah, wish yet, y Yeah, there was none out there.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
What would how crazy would that be if like Army,
like back in the old days, start going through the
tournament and winning this thing, and jezus, I wonder if
people just start jumping aboard and in the you got
all the cadets and everything.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
How crazy would that be?
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Always got to love it. Jacksonville State all over Western
Kentucky as well. It's fifty two twelve in that one,
Boise State twenty one nothing, middle of the third Army
over two lane, twenty eight seven. So we'll keep you
a prize to those. We've got the Lakers three point
lead over the haw in the final minute of the
(13:03):
overtime period there as well. We've got other NBA games.
It's a full slate here, Arnie Spanier. Next hour, Rich
Hornberger jumps in talking a little college football, little National
Football League. But coming up next we'll stay with the
college football playoff because it's politicking season, Arnie Spaniard. So
you thought the political season was over. Now we're just
(13:25):
getting warmed up. And you know who we get next.
They want the computer overlords back in our lives. We'll
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Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (14:53):
Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith's Show with
Me Mike Carmon. No Jason Smith tonight. It instead our
buddy Arnie Spanier steps in at Stinking Genius One where
you find him Bobby over at Swollen Dome. Of course,
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Speaker 5 (15:28):
Forever absolutely my friend in.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
The line of Arnie Spanier greeting cards coming to a
store near you. In twenty twenty five, you had a
big opportunity with the UNLV Rebels finally moving the ball
on Boise State. They get turned away at the doorstep,
turnover on downs in the red zone, and then we
get a massive shot. You were during the break arguing
(15:56):
about a call under the basket the Hawks and the Lakers.
In overtime, Lebron James a chase down block which was
eventually ruled that it was off the Hawks player.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
Impossible to see that. I don't care. You could slow
it down to the Millsex well.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And it was a long review and it's the antithesis
of what you're trying to do in a review process.
But after extended looks, replays, et cetera, the ball was
awarded to the Lakers, ad gets filed, but you finally
have a huge Tray Young three point shot that ultimately
gives the Hawks a huge home win. Lebron with the
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last second three point shot, it goes away and missus
a heavy ball that he hit off the back iron.
So yes, the Lakers with a big loss. And I
can't wait for the JJ Reddick post.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
What's it gonna say? We were horrible? It's unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
We were a joke today because it's good their defense
is I mean they they're giving up one hundred and
thirty four points. I know it was overtime, and they
gave up a wide ot out of everybody on that team,
a wide open three point shot to him, so to
Trey Young. I don't even know what they were thinking
at that point. And they lose this game. They let
this one slip right through their fingers.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
You got seventeen points off the bench between Christy and Russell.
But here here's the crux of it. All five starters
in double figures. You shoot nearly fifty two percent from
the floor. Anthony Davis for the night, thirty eight, ten
and eight. Wow, Lebron goes thirty nine, ten and eleven,
(17:38):
and you lose to the Hawks. You give up one
hundred and thirty four points.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
You know what, you know what?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Lebron's saying in the locker room right about he's getting
into the locker room right about now. He's walking over
to JJ Reddick, and before jj Reddick had addressed the team,
he whispers in his ear, get Yannis now and walks away.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Are you obsessed with Giannis and Tenna kopon tonight? That's
the second reference. We're twenty five minutes into the show.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
He's a superstar and he could think what he would
do to the lakes.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Let me ask you, let me riddle, Arnie is a
freaking the sheets? That that is? You know, we know
Arnie's past movie history too, justin in his head. Yeah, no, No,
He's talked about this quite openly. Right, didn't you appear
in some kind of never really wasn't gandalous film? Or
it was it never actually released.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
It wasn't porn or anything? Goes like, you know, one
of the the kids are still up?
Speaker 3 (18:34):
What do you mean? Yeah, I mean you went right
down the deep dark path. I mean, we use we
have expansive language skills here on the show, Arnie Spaniards.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
It was my only fans account.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
I'm sorry, Well, I mean I have no doubt that
that that exists in an alternate universe, no question about that.
Tough loss for the Lakers. Will keep an eye on
the post game for for some of the audio, because
we saw Reddick after the last game talking about you know,
I'm not gonna blame the players, but but and for you,
(19:06):
I mean, you made a career out of calling out
Laker fans. So we got that going in the background
as well. Championship Night in the collegiate world, at least
the first few college play championship games are tonight. We've
got a lot of the big boys and we'll pick
some games and have some fun with that as we
talk it up a little later, Arnie. But the other
(19:29):
thing that goes on during this process, and we've watched
it for several weeks, but now that it's actually you know,
the winning time as it were, is these rankings come
together for the college football Playoffs. You got everybody doing
their stump speeches like it's the political season all over again,
right that we just went through SMU coach Rhett Lashley. Hey,
you know, we're number eight in the latest College Football
(19:50):
Playoffs selection rankings, so we should be in the twelve
team field no matter what. Happens, they'll face off against
number seventeen Clemson Davoswiney. After the early struggles for Clemson,
they've rallied back now nine and three in opportunity to
go and win the title game and create a bit
(20:12):
of chaos, because whenever you have the concept of three
loss teams making the playoffs, is even if it were
in year one and it's still proof of concept, has
people outraged. But I wanted to throw this out you
as well. Tennessee Athletic director Danny White, he loves it right.
Expand to twelve, let's go to sixteen. It's all fine
(20:32):
and good. Here's the thing, though, quote with respect to
this process, I'd like to see us be a little
more objective. I don't think there's anything wrong with the
ranking system of the old BCS. So talking about the
eye test, the idea that you would watch these teams
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and do the which one of these is not like
the other, in addition to all your strength of schedule
and all the other rankings and statistical data that you
can spit out just saying no, no, no, no, let's
put it all in and get our all knowing algorithm
to spit out the twelve teams and remove the human
eye test. Arnie Spaniard, are you in favor of robot
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overlords for this process?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
No, absolutely not. There's no way. I can't.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
First of all, I can't trust a computer. There's too
many times that.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Will say are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (21:23):
And we'll say, how did this team get number three
when they're not even in the top ten. I'm not
gonna do that. It's really not that difficult. I don't
even know why people are making a big deal about this.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
They're only to me.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
In my opinion is the controversy is if Alabama's going
to get in, and Alabama's gonna get in, they're gonna
get in over Miami.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
Miami won't. Alabama will be.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Like a what a eleven seed or something to that effect,
maybe a ten seed. But they have three losses. I'm
not outraged about that. It's a made for TV show,
like you said, so I would put in Alabama also
a great fan base, a good following, a good team.
They also have more wins against top ten teams or
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top twenty teams than Miami.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
They've done a good job.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Yeah, they lost Oklahoma embarrassing fashion, but that's still only
controversy in my eye is if Alabama.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Should make it over the other ones.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, I mean they have a couple of bad losses
on the schedule. I mean, Vanderbilt ended up as a
five hundred team. You had the loss to Tennessee and
then obviously the twenty four to three loss to Oklahoma,
and I know I had to tune in and hear
a little of Plank talking about that one, and you know,
rushing the field and everything where you had myriad members
(22:38):
of the Oklahoma community going. You got to give him
to grace. I mean, we're not used to this this,
We're not used to seasons like this. I wish I
had that kind of problem, aren't they? That game, by
the way, my teams.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
That game may be the reason why Milroe comes back
for another year at Alabama at quarterback.
Speaker 5 (22:57):
He was horrible, absolutely horrible.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Now, maybe they forgot about the game, and one game
movie shouldn't define you, but he might have thought about, like,
I'm not ready for the NFL, and he's probably not.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
He could certainly use another year.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
You know, we've always talked about does the NFL do
a good job developing quarterbacks? The answers no, he could
certainly do another year of starting.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Well, I think a lot of it comes back to Arnie.
I mean a lot of times when you're getting drafted
in the first round of the NFL draft, let's call
it what it is. If you're going near the top
of the draft, you're going to an organization generally speaking,
not in every case, but generally speaking, you're talking about
organizations and teams bereft of talent. So you're going to
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be the building block. And suddenly, while that clock is ticking,
you're supposed to go play meaningful snaps, try to be
a savior as things get built around you. Whereas you know,
for all its faults, you know, and again not to
make it all about me, but well sometimes it is
is you know, you look at the Bears and so
(24:01):
you're talking, Yeah, I mean seven wins a year ago.
Defense came alive after Eberflues took over there or whatever.
But late game situations down distance, decision making clearly catastrophic.
We've we've documented that for weeks here on the program.
And and for me, you know, for three years, if
anybody had listened to me with my bullhorn since Ebraflues
(24:24):
was hired, but all of that to say, Caleb Williams
comes into probably one of the greatest situations that you
have for Jade and Daniels a little bit of the
same thing in Washington. You may not like anybody individually
beyond Terry McLaurin in terms of their skill position players,
but it's undeniable that you at least had complimentary pieces
(24:45):
that could go to work. Now second half of the
year and down the stretch. Here we'll see what Kingsbury's
offense is. They got a nice little bounce back last
week with the forty two point performance after a couple
of weeks of kind of sliding backwards, aren't he. But
all of that to say, you know, extra games at
the collegiate level, where you can also go make millions
(25:06):
of dollars from your nil collective, right right, all of
those things, you know, we just don't have patience at
the NFL level. We expect guys to be able to
go in and compete immediately, and it doesn't necessarily ever
get that chance to slow down. I mean, look at
look at what just a couple of games of all right,
sit down, let's regroup, let's look at film. Look what
(25:27):
Bryce Young, much different player just taking a couple of
weeks to just pause and reset things. But that's not
a grace that's shown many young quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
No, you know.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
I also I wrote a topic that we should talk
about young players that are on bad teams that we
don't think about twice, but if they were on a
good team, they'd be playing so much better. One thing
I wanted to back up to, you're talking about your Bears.
Aren't you the least bit excited about the rumors that
Bezos wants to buy the Bears? I mean, he's got
(25:59):
a All the whatever you have in your pocket is
less what he has.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
He has all the money in the world out.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I think I think we uh the Bears and Bezos
just took him out. But all of that to say is,
you know, rumor, conjecture, speculation, Bezos or anybody else coming
over the top family business curiosity as to to if
and when that actually would come to fruition of the
(26:30):
hallis McCaskey family actually deciding to opt out on a
revenue stream that is just so immense.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
You may, oh, yes, you do make, but sometimes when
when the teams passed down, you know, uh, just like
they were in Buffalo, when Ralph Wilson passed away, they
couldn't sell that team fast enough to the Pegulas. I
mean it took like a day. I mean it, seriously,
it took like less than a year to get that done.
Some some people want to keep it like they do
it in Seattle. Some people want to get rid of it.
(26:59):
I don't know what situation they would be in.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Well, I mean, you've seen all the mccaskey's work there,
you know, Yes, that's true, right, whether they stayed around
or the family business decided to excize them. Think whatever
you will of George and company. I mean George. I'm
convinced part of the reason that they actually got rid
of eberflus Arny was that he was doing a lot
(27:21):
of work in the parking lots and tailgates and shaking
hands and kissing babies. I think he gave a couple
of fans his phone number, so when everything went down
on Thanksgiving, he started getting notices from the fans and
look at all this great Thanksgiving spread and you ruined it.
Eber Flu's ruined it. He's gotta go.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Yeah, he had to go anyway, just the way that
last two of the way the games ended the frustration
just mounted. The way the Bears let the situation go
now was wrong also, but it doesn't really make a difference.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
They got rid of him and it's time to move on,
so we'll see who they go with next.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
Yeah, I mean, but back to the issue at hand.
I mean, when we're talking about the college football see
how you derailed things out for that. Yeah, all right,
let's get back on course for a minute here before
we bring in Steve de Sager to update us on
what's going on here. Is just the the idea, I
like the mix, right, we need some computer modeling, but
(28:18):
you're not going to get every variable included. They're in right,
that will.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
Never happen because they want to be able to decide
to put like a team like Alabama.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
But it just's a lot of things, right, there's a
lot of things unless you're going to go into sales
and marketing and everything else. Because Alabama, whatever they are
on the field, there's a lot of folks that are
gonna hate watch other SEC programs and then the nation
at large because there they are again.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
And then Mike, if it wasn't Alabama, whoever the next
team up was with three losses, should get in any way,
Who am I going to give it to? Am I
going to give it to one of the other one
big conferences?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Am I going to give it to another Big ten
team though they already got four?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Am I going to give it to a Big twelve team?
Speaker 4 (28:59):
No, they'll deserve a second bit out there. So who
am I really going to give it to? There's really
no controversy in this. It deserves to go to another SEC.
Whoever's the next team up, and that just happened to
be Alabama.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, And I think the ultimate line that came out
of all of this comes from our own executive producer,
Justin Frossberg, who said, for Miami, you lost to Syracuse,
Yes they did. You had the opportunity, it was on
your plate, narrow escapes early in the season, and then
ultimately when it mattered when you needed you know, the
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rubber meets the road, you lose and give up a
twenty one dozering lead in a big spot. He's already
spanner in for Jason Smith, that stinking genius one where
you find him eight o'clock Pacific Sunday nights alongside Chris
Blank our buddy there. Out of Oklahoma. You find me
over at on Twitter at Swollen Dolme, at Blue Sky,
(29:54):
at Mike Harmon. Yes, I got to get my name
there and eventually we'll start posting some chaos there as well.
Did draw you in, But first, hey, let's go to
the news desk, because we've got a man. He's all knowing.
He's like the great and all powerful Oz. He is
Steve Desager.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
By the way, you.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
Talked about the quote of we should just go back
to the BCS days and have computers to say no, no,
This is a step backward. The immediate first thing I
thought of about twenty years ago. Do you recall when
Pete Carroll was at USC, they were ranked number one
in both polls and were not selected for the NEST
Championship camp. So Nick Saban won a title with LSU
(30:36):
without having to face Pete Carroll's USC team in the final.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
They beat Oklahoma instead.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
SC was twelve and one that year, and the one
loss was in triple overtime against Aaron Rodgers at CAL.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That was it.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
It was a stunning run for USC. And remember it
was seven straight BCS Bowl games most of them Rose Bowls,
all of them wins, except for that last second loss
to Texas. But despite being number one and some still
voted them, coaches like Lou Holtz and others still noted
them number one after their Rosewell win, they were not selected.
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The computers did not select a team that went twelve
and one for the national title game.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Yet East Coast bias didn't like the PAC ten.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
God, yes he's got computers.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Well. College football.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Tonight we have three conference championship games on Fox TV.
It's now early fourth quarter at the cold of Boise
and yeah, a lot of cold weather for the three
games tonight, Upper twenties and boise Ia tenth rag. Boise
State leads twenty one to nothing over twentyeth rank UNLV
early in the fourth. Superstar running back Ashton Gentia the
Broncos twenty six carries one hundred and eighty three yards
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in a touchdown that includes a seventy five yard TD
in the first half. The American Athletic Conference Championship is
at number twenty four. Army Cadets lead Tulane twenty eight
to seven early in the fourth and the Conference USA
title game also about thirty degrees went to Jacksonville State
at home in Alabama against Western Kentucky fifty two to twelve.
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The final playoff bracket will be announced this Sunday, along
with the bowl matchups. Utah States new coach is Bronco
Menden Hall with a six year contract after one season
in New Mexico. He's a former BYU as well as
Virginia coach. Georgia Tech gave coach brank Ke a new
contract through twenty twenty nine. Arkansas State extended the contract
(32:28):
of coach Butch Jones through twenty twenty nine. Oklahoma States
offered coach Mike Gundy a reduced contract and it wants
to put the savings toward nil money. Oklahoma State was
zero to nine in conference this year. Among the NFL notes,
Jets running back Bresee Hall expected to be out this weekend,
as his defensive back Sauce Gardner and Eagles wide receiver
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DeVante Smith will return Sunday from a hamstring injury. The
Mets are signing pitcher Clay Holmes as a starter. He
was a reliever with the Yankees. In men's college basketball,
eight minutes to Go, oh Number nineteen, Illinois leads at
Northwestern forty six to forty. In the NBA, Atlanta won
at six straight game, beating the Lakers in overtime, one
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thirty four, one thirty two, Yeah whatever. Trey Young thirty
one points and twenty assists, including a late three pointer
Indiana and Sacramento, with wins Philadelphia and Boston as well.
Celtics are nineteen and four after edging Milwaukee one eleven,
one oh five. Jason Tatum with thirty four points. Back
to you, Thanks so much, Steve. The im honest proposal
(33:31):
coming up next. Yes, it came up earlier this week.
Already is being shot down, but I'd sleep with one
eye open. We'll tell you what all of that is
about next. As we come to you from the tirac
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Speaker 3 (33:55):
Greetings and welcome man. Blessed to be with you on
a beautiful Friday night here Fox Sports. It's Radio, the
team's fully inassemblance. We've got our guy, Alex ty Shirt
manning the boards and making us sound so pretty. We've
got Justin Frosberg, our executive producer, Steve Disager. You heard
him at the news desk with all the updates on
the night already span your in for Jason Smith. I'm
(34:15):
Mike Carmen. Thanks for spending a few minutes of your
Friday night with us. Wherever you're going, however you're getting around, traffic, weather,
all of those things, chaos on a Friday night.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
Will traffic pretty bad there on a Friday night?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah, it's Los Angeles. I mean, what are you gonna do?
I just met in general. Wasn't gonna say woe is me?
We had those conversations off air. We're related to individual
circumstance around here, because you know, there's always a high
speed chase or something that we're clocking as you well know, Arnie,
as we roll through on a Friday night. But you know,
(34:49):
we appreciate folks for giving us a little bit of
their time. You know, there's plenty of options out there,
so we we want to make sure, you know, everybody
feels the love. One guy who was at Rob Mamford,
everything he says usually is met with the raspberries. The
latest the golden at bat idea that was profferd earlier
(35:12):
this week started to leak out. The idea of at
any point once a game, you had the opportunity to
just say, hey, you know what, I want this guy
into my lineup now, regardless of where he is in
the order, etc. I mean, obviously you have a lot
of logistical questions of how you make this work. Right
If the guy's on second base, do you suddenly get
(35:34):
a ghost runner that gets to run in for him
and then he goes back to the plate. If he
just struck out, fly out, whatever, maybe just hit a
home run? Does he get to go right back up
to the plate right stare at you again? All of
those things to say, Rob Mamford quote to go from
the conversation stage actually showing up in MLB is a
very long road. You don't like the idea, I wouldn't
(35:54):
be too concerned about it right now. In other words,
let's throw stuff against the walls, see what way the
winds blow and and how people responded. If nothing else,
it made for some great little scenario drivings, and I'm
sure the AI bots had some fun with it as well.
Aren't he. But the fact that before we even start
the winter, you know, the owner's meetings and everything. As
(36:17):
we get to free agency, the next stage is Soto
and everything else. It's kind of funny. It's like, no, no, no, no,
I just it's done. Don't bring it up anymore. Well,
and we're throwing this away a.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Couple of things on this.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
You know, I was actually up when it came out
Wednesday morning, I think it was leaked, and Jonas was
on the air for one more segment. I said, Jonas
the story, and he writes back to me, is this
can't be true? And I said, you know, I'm not sure,
And he didn't want to go out of the air
with it because it was his last segment, so they
(36:50):
just waited, and I get first, I didn't believe it.
I thought that maybe I got fooled by an account, which.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Has happened to you many times.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
Numerous times, so I figure that this can't be right.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
But I saw it from but you've still felt like
you needed to send a time while if.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Somebody's like an idiot, it's gonna be him, not me,
so I.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Want to You don't think he would have then come
on the next day, I would have gone all over
social media posting pictures of you. So I figured this
guy's got a bad jump shot and he gives.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
You fagus stories.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
So and so it turns out to be true that
I'm reading everybody's responses like this is the worst thing ever,
and I really couldn't believe it. It's it's not I know,
you're they're tinkering with the game. We've tinkered with the
game in football, defenseless receiver, don't touch the quarterback. Look
what we've done the kickoffs, Mike. Nobody's saying anything about that.
(37:47):
We've made all kinds of changes in the NFL. Nobody says, boom,
we'll put the other changes we made in baseball, the
pitch clock.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
I mean, we had the DH that we aded.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
Sure, it's been a while, but we had It's only
going to be a matter of time, you know, before
obviously we just.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
Do the whole league there.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
But it's it's absolutely crazy, all the changes we've made.
So it's something we've got to consider. But I think
it's taking it too much.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Yeah, I mean, I think overall, Arnie, I mean, when
we look at it, you go and you make changes,
and you tinker with it minor league level and then
try to expand from there. The fact that you know,
you bring up the universal DH and all of that,
I mean, you know where it's there, and we've got
it going right. Adopted National League in twenty twenty two,
(38:35):
show Hao Todi wins the MVP as a DH this year.
All all of those things and all the hand ringing
for years, my guy Harold Baines, go back to Edgar
Martinez and on down the line. But yeah, some of
them are are pretty radical changes. You talk about baseball
like I'll forever hate the ghost runner, the banning of
(38:56):
the shift and pitch clock. I get it, it's made
for TV event like that. That's what we're trying to do.
Make it palatable. Get it on, get them on, get
them over, get them in. I think there's some love
for what the soccer TV windows look like. In two hours,
you're in and out right, unless you go into crazy
ass stoppage time because crazy things happen. I mean, it's
(39:17):
it's a pretty easy window. And so for baseball, you
know they're trying to get it timed out like a
Mark Burley stat. I mean, you know, start all those
years ago, when he was with the White Sox and on,
it's like, hey, get the ball and get back on
the mound and throw your next pitch. So oh, that's say.
I mean, it takes away some of the psychological battle
(39:38):
of waiting out your opponent and all of those kind
of things, which I kind of enjoyed. But I'm anna
sayis that way? I guess. Likewise, the shift like learn
not to hit, learn not to hit, we don't need
to ban that, you know, if you can actually place
a bunt every once in a while, god forbid, the
bigger bases, the throwing over to first a second time,
(40:00):
like all of those changes. Are they huge to the game?
Speaker 5 (40:05):
No, yes, they're big changes, Mike.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
But but they're not. But they're not necessarily noticed, is
my point. Right. Huge changes are the ones where it
really substantively affects the fabric of the game, Like the kickoff, right.
How many kickoffs were returned each year for touchdowns? Few?
Speaker 5 (40:23):
Right?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Right? So when you go against the perception or reality
of safety checks, then a lot of it is all right, shrug,
move on, as long as the basics, uh, and the
meat and potatoes are still there. Do what you gotta do.
Speaker 5 (40:37):
You do what you gotta do.
Speaker 4 (40:39):
And look, remember there's trying to speed up the game,
that trying to make it more palatable.
Speaker 5 (40:43):
There's a problem.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Not only that, there's not only a problem with baseball
and people tuning in, there's a problem in the NBA
and viewership also. You gotta go ahead. They're thinking of
different ways to get people engaged.
Speaker 5 (40:57):
Otherwise you're in for a long haul.
Speaker 6 (40:59):
There.
Speaker 5 (41:00):
You're in for a long run if you don't go
ahead and get that.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Basketball is a whole other thing. I mean, the length
of the season and the buy in game to game.
You know the fact that Lebron and ad both played today, right,
that was the report Lebron's gonna take an injury slash
rest day given their recent slide. And you know what,
I think that's where we're gonna end up. Circling back
(41:22):
here as we continue our two of the program. Coming
up next year, Arnie, we've got Rich Orenberger at twenty
but JJ Reddick meeting with the meeting with the press,
so we'll get some commentary coming up next as we
have championship Friday,
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