May 10, 2024 • 38 mins
Jason and Mike react to the Celtics getting blown out by the Cavs. The Pacers submitted 78 missed calls from Games 1 and 2 against the Knicks. And Frank Vogel is OUT as head coach of the Phoenix Suns!
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I know, Mike Harmon. Everybody is upset about the Celtics
and how the Cavaliers won this game, going away and
out shocking everybody one eighteen ninety four. But here here's
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the thing. The Celtics got screwed. Ask me why why?
Because it screwed. Watching this game, I counted seventy eight
calls non calls that were not whistled or whistled that
could have been whistled and were not. That went the
Cavaliers way. I mean, this is this is just Robert
Wall seventy eight calls. I mean it was. It was
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won every twenty seconds. I could not believe that in
the in this game.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I think you're really conservative there in your estimate. Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
And then you add the egregious efforts of people going
up the stairs with five minutes remaining, showing absolutely no faith. Okay,
that game was over, and you know you gotta beat traffic.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, you know, And that's first thing, okay, because because
look we'll get to the seventy eight calls. Everybody's making
a big deal. Look, this game has been was over
for a long time, just over. In the third quarter,
Joe Mizzula emptied his bench, Bickerstaff emptied his bench right
the last time. Of course, fans are gonna leave. What
is this all? I can't believe it. Fans leave games
early when it's a blowout and they're going, oh right,
when when the stars are out of the game and
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your team is not gonna win, Yes, people are gonna go.
I know I stay because I always like the stay,
because I'm like, okay, I paid for these seats. I'm
gonna stay for the whole game and everything else. So
that's cool, But I mean, people leave. This is not
Oh look at these fair weather Celtics fans. It's a
twenty five point game. Both benches are playing. I think
Kevin McHale was getting minutes at the end.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It was ah, look at this.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Look at these Celtics fans are left. Of course they're
gonna leave. Dude.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
As soon as Brissett and Spee and Springer and Walsh
got off the bench, that was it. You might as
well have thrown the damn towel Rocky style. I mean,
that was it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I am I look with this game, you can see
this is the Celtics are kind of like the Nicks
little bit where everything is either the greatest it could
be or the worst it could be. Right, Oh, so
that's kind of it. And right now people are going
absolutely crazy with this whole Celtics say, look at the Celtics.
They lose again. How do they do this? How do
they do that? Okay, okay, now look let's be realistic
(03:02):
about this. Now, let's be and look how calm I
am tonight with no Knicks game. I look how comments.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Think the Rangers and yeah, Hurricanes would have you a
little bit flat.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
We're going overtime and we're down to zip. So I
feel like, okay, this series has already gotten away from us.
We change goalies tonight and so far okay. Uh but
you know, look, I we're in overtime. We're waiting to
get there. It's okay, we're down to it.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
But I mean but really, but look, I mean as
much as I love the Hurricanes, I mean, come on,
the Knicks, I mean the Hurricanes and the Mets and
the Jets and every I mean I got a lot
on my plate with the Knicks, man, I mean, this
is this is like, this is full. This is like
the Knicks are taking up my whole plate and I
got room for little bits and pieces on the side.
But I mean the Knicks are taking up everything now.
I mean seventy eight foul called man, But you got.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
A lot of time. Yeah, but I mean that enumeration
of that is going to be absurd. Number fourteen. You're
gonna be counting like FRANCESSA before it's done.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But look, this is the reality for this game. Does
this mean suddenly the Celtics stink and they don't have
championship medal, and all of a sudden, Oh, what I
was saying about the Celtics twenty four hours ago no
longer applies. No, of course, although I do feel like
I curse on last slight by saying there's no reason
why the Celtics gotta be feeling great about themselves. Maybe
they're feeling too great, maybe they're feeling teering, going look
(04:15):
at this, look at this. The Knicks are banged up.
They're probably gonna win that series, and we're gonna get
a banged up nixt team. We're gonna roll into the finals. Yeah,
you know, so you get a game like this. They
had a game like this in the last round, and
what happened. They stepped up and gave Miami a clinic
the rest of the way, Right, So I get it.
But this is the real takeaway from this game. Are
the Celtics still gonna win this series? Yes, they're the
better team, But the real thing is to say, Okay,
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this is where you see a real fatal flaw that
the Celtics had, where if you're playing if you're playing
the Celtics, either in the next round of the playoffs,
or in the NBA Finals, if things aren't going well,
if the Celtics are dominating, you know, they will give
you a stinker, either because they're they're not as focused,
or they just don't have the killer instinct. For whatever reason,
(04:59):
they have a prepent to give you a stinker at
the time you least expect it. So teams aren't gonna
go into these series against the Celtics and lose the
mental battle or think, wow, man, we're down two zip
going home. This is really difficult. Man. No, they're gonna think, hey,
you know what, the Celtics are gonna give us one.
They're gonna give us one because they're not strong enough mentally.
They will give us one. Don't lose, hope, stay in this.
(05:19):
Don't feel like we come into the game and the
referees are against us. They're no, they will give you one.
That's the real takeaway from this is that they have
a marked propensity to give you stinkers like this, and
that just helps feed team's confidence when they play it
in the playoffs and when you're playing teams that aren't
up to your caliber, it just seems like something that
happens and you can let it go. Like this will happen,
(05:40):
to let it go, be ready for Game three. But
you get to the conference finals where it's the best
team you've played against so far, and then in the
NBA Finals where it's the best team you've played all season.
That's where you say, all right, it's gonna happen, and
that's what could wind up killing you. I just that's
the real takeaway from this, not for this series. It's
about watch what happens later on when you feel like
this Celtics just and you feel like they have everything
(06:01):
going on, They're they're gonna give you a big stinker
like this, and watch what happens as a result.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, eventually you're gonna run into the team where you
can't get away with it, and then it starts to
snowball in this case, terrible three point shooting, getting out
rebound and then a huge second half from Donovan Mitchell
shades of what we saw last night with your guy brunts,
and without missing you know, that quarter due to injury,
of course, but I mean Derek White, who we'd been
piping up most of the season and certainly during this
(06:29):
playoff run. He was awful three of eleven from the field,
in his thirty minutes and you look at the starters,
just an abysmal defensive effort across the board and say, well,
no porzingis well Jared Allen didn't play once again. That
was one of the things we were talking about with
the Cavs in terms of losing some of that tenacity
and big man to you know, be able to slow
(06:50):
things down and work the board. Well he wasn't. There
didn't matter. They still out rebounded the Celtics by thirteen
and took care of business, you know, and what was
overall pretty clean game and only seven turnovers for the
Celtics in this one. So you can't blame that, right,
just being careless with the basketball except for taking bad,
ill advised shots.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
They just sucked. Mike.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, there is that, you know, for for one night.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But it's the don't play with your food, right, I mean,
that's if you're that much better than this squad, don't
breathe any life into it, particularly in a game at home.
And this is what they keep doing when they're double
digit home favorites. They keep losing outright, it' said just
a joke of an effort and from Missoula. You know,
you've come to expect this, and which is why he
(07:35):
was on the hot seat in the offseason, how real
or imagine it was still a talking point and breaking
them up and whatever. You see efforts like this, and
you know, the unrest certainly is there even if you
are the decided favorite.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, look, I mean that. And that's the issue with
the Celtics. And I told you if they don't if
they don't get to the fight, they don't win this year.
They're on my never again list. I mean they really,
they're on my net. I have to put the Celtics
on my and a lot of teams are starting to reside,
am I never again?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I was gonna say, didn't you add like seven NBA
teams this year?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
But there's only thirty pounds? They're not a standing Yeah,
but he goes back.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
To the drawing board with them.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, but this is like you can I mean, I
can never pick them in like this is there yet?
Like when else are they ever gonna win it? And
I'm a firm believer. I know every season is different
than the season before, and you don't know what your
your path is going to be. Who's gonna be healthy,
who's gonna be injured. But if you don't win. Now,
when basically the Eastern Conferences said, hey, look here's your
path to the to the NBA Finals, it's like Dorothy
(08:33):
walking down the yellow brick road going, hey, just go
all the way, just go all the way to the end,
and there's the castle and there's a wizard. Everything is
absolutely fine. You're gonna be all good. Yeah, okay, okayo.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Some little things are gonna pop up along the way,
but otherwise it's a pretty straight path.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I mean, listen, there's and here's the thing. The wizard
does it. It's just a guy. It's just a guy
behind the whole big wall. Uh. It's sorry, spoiler, I
just spoiled the Wizard of Us. But like that, that's
what I mean. If they don't do it this year,
like when are they gonna do it? Right, We're seeing
the rise of all these other great young teams in
the West, and the rise of Minnesota and Oklahoma City
and Denver still really good if they got their heads
(09:06):
on straight, right, Like you're still seeing really good teams
that are just getting better. The knicks are gonna get better, right,
I mean that that's just how it's gonna go right,
They're gonna get better. The Sixers are gonna get better
now that they figured out more of their team than
they went out in the first round. So I don't
I don't see where suddenly oh yeah, yeah, here's another year,
another year of Tatum and Jalen Brown. And it was
(09:26):
poor zingis it was if they don't I mean really
never again, because I don't know when I'm gonna say, hey,
you know what, you know who? I like the Celtics.
I don't see when nothing you will? No, no, no,
I will. I went against my never again list once
and I shouldn't have it. I'm never doing it again.
I never said no, no, no, I never do it
again before because it's Harmon's fault if I do. He's
(09:47):
a guy that's got to keep track of the never again.
Let's go wait a minute. You said you never picked Oh,
that's right now, he's got it. Would be the one
to tell me, and then you ignore us. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
this is no. I'm really no.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You're too busy tweeting out your your thoughts. And then
we were trying to remind you and you're like, no.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I really like this squad.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Now they made one or two principal moves. You go,
well they're different. Now there'll be a different mentality.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
No, this is this is no. No, this is where
I need you. I need you. You know, this is
the whole thing where Hey, sometimes you gotta tell your
friends stuff, even if they're not ready to hear it.
You gotta say, listen, what are you doing. You said
you'd never pick them again, and then you got to
talk me off the ledge on that because you can't
let me do it. You can't let me pick Arizona
to win the NCAA title again. I was stupid. I
was leading the whole bleeping bracket challenge at Fox Sports
(10:32):
Radio for like the first two weeks, but because stupidly,
I pick Arizona because they were on my never again list.
And I said, no, no, no, I really like Arizona
this year. That's your fault for saying, hey, they're on
you never again list. Pick somebody else and said, okay,
you gone, and I would have won, and suddenly I
would have won a TV or whatever that we gave
away out, you know, I mean, that would have been
me if.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
You said no Arizona. You heard Big.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Mac, No, no, dude, if that was the case, I
wouldn't be able to keep a thought for more than
a Secondude, you aligned yourself with Arnie's team, Noanard, as
soon as you do that, you do them yourself. No,
I would know never. I should never have done that.
And it's your fault for not talking to me. You say, listen,
you sure about this. Don't you want to do something else?
(11:13):
Don't you want to pick somebody up. No, you didn't
do that for me. You didn't do that. You didn't
do Frostburg didn't help me. Neither, you guys help me. Yeah,
that was your fault for that.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I should have won evil on me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I should have won. I mean, look, first of all,
there was all kinds of shenanigans where how I was
still in first place? There was all these points that
were available, There was a lot, there was a lot
of fuzzy math. Yeah, it was a depending on what
time of day you looked at things.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's like it's like it kind of like
if you go to look at your investment accounts, depending
on the time of day, it may not have updated,
right because they don't do this stuff with mutual funds
and stuff until the end of end of hours and
then the overnight compilation.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Wait anute, I checked my investors at ten thirty. I'm good.
What do you mean I'm broke? Hit refresh? Oh no,
you didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
See today's market activity, tuna.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Sorry, did you have stock in the Knicks finishing the
playoffs with five healthy players? Yeah, I'm sorry. You took
a hit on that. That's really gonna work the way. No,
it's your fault. You got you guys need to do
that for me from now on. If I if someone
goes on the never Again, they're on it forever. Like
they're on it, They're on it forever.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I tell you what, I'll make a multi colored poster
board like Ronnie Wood does with the Rolling Stone setlist,
and it'll just have all the teams from every sport
because we're at what about eighty teams?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
That though, no, no Carlisle complaints.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I gotta fight it, but I think my never againless
now is about ten teams. Well no, no, come on, dude,
Look how good we are? Come on?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
No way, man, You guys are a week from poop
in your pants.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
No no, but here's the thing, justin and it's the
worst case scenarios. Tonight's let down, pathetic effort by the
Boston Celtics at me at Swollen Dome gave Smith more hope. Well,
if we could just survive this series, we could go
beat these guys.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's exactly what.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
This this game did today. It's likes aren't that good?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I mean, Mitchell and Brunston are kind of the same guy,
don't we could do this?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Stop?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Jalen Brunton is the best player in the playoffs. Look,
Donovan Mitchell is great, and I'm sure he's gonna want
to Now you're dismissing Donovan. Donny Mitchell is great, dude.
Come on, man, Jalen you you didn't even hear me.
Rick Buker on our show last night said, Jalen Brunston
is doing Michael Jordan thing.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And Frossberg and I immediately texted him saying, did you
take money?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
He's the best He's the best player in the playoffs.
It's not even close as good as as good as
Anthony Edwards, is it? Oh he's Michael John Yeah, he's great.
He's not the best player in the playoffs. Jalen Brunson
has been and is the best player online took. Yeah,
oh no, how can he get on? Is and Drew
Brees still on hold, He's not gonna get through. It's
not gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
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overtime giveaway and the Hurricanes end, The Rangers get a
deflection in front of the net. They score in overtime
early in overtime to beat the Hurricanes three to two.
Rangers now started the postseason seven and oh and they
(14:13):
lead the Hurricanes three games to none. Yeah, so now
it looks like all the yin and yang is all
yinning towards the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
You know what you need after that? What's that one
of those blue hurricanes?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh? I'd love all blue hurricanes are so good? Oh
my goodness, Yeah, I love a bluehirt. Now, blue hurricane
and a big back. No blue hurricane for you, blue
hurricane and big Mac. You get a purple hurricane because
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Look that's the big takeaway for the Celtics, right, they
have a mark propensity to give you an absolute stinker
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poop emoji game, and it comes back to get you
when you're playing the best teams in the NBA. So
when it happens later in the playoffs, you go, what
just happened there? They just beat the Timberwolves by twenty
five and now they look at this is what hap
happens to the Celtics because mentally they're not where they should.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Be and this is what they do to their backers
when they're double digit favorites at all.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
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We get into that silliness straight ahead right here, Jason
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It is a blue out night, yeah in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Not a blowout yet, not a blue out.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It's a blue out. It's a blue out, not it's
a blue out night. All those blue T shirts all
looks so great, everybody's wearing them. It's fantastic. H But
so far it's been Dallas with the better end of
the play. They lead the Thunder right now in game two,
forty five thirty seven. Luka Doncic maybe hearing whispers, maybe
hearing him out out He needs to do more and
(16:41):
what's happening. He's got sixteen so far to go along
with six rebounds and five assists. He has had an
incredible start to this game. It's a ten point lead
now for Dallas again, still early, a lot of time
left to go eight minutes to go in the second quarter,
Shake Gildess, Alexander's got ten for Oklahoma City. But you
know that this is one of those games where I
expect something and expected something really big from Luca because
(17:05):
you can hear the reprits and we've talked about it.
There's nobody with more pressure on himself in a playoff
this year than Luka Doncic because he's been in the
league a while. And it's not like the Mavericks are
trending towards Hey. Every year, we're getting a little bit
further in the playoffs, get a little bit closer to
being complete team to win the NBA title. No, every
year they're a nice forty five, forty eight fifty win team.
(17:28):
They went around in the places they've been to the
Cups finals once. That's fine, but they got toasted in it.
But there's no real growth, there's no Hey, you can
tell the Mavericks are starting to become a power like
some of these other teams that you've seen on the
upward swing the laste years. Right, You've seen it from Minnesota,
Oklahoma City, you've seen it with the Knicks, You've seen
it with other teams. But this is a team where
it's like, Okay, they got to start doing something, and
(17:50):
Luca's here in the whispers now finally that Hey, you've
been in the league six years, man, and you have
the best player you've ever had playing alongside you in
Kyrie Irving, who is still in the league and didn't
find a way to take time off and take time
away this year or you know, spread sage on the
court before a game. No, he has been focused on
basketball and he has been terrific. It is the best
(18:12):
teammate you have had, the most talented teammate you have had,
and here you are against the thunder team that is
pretty good. But wow, man, if you if they go
out again this year in the second round, suddenly you're saying,
who what? Maybe maybe you got to change how we
think about Luca. Maybe maybe Luca's more Carmelo Anthony than
he has anything else because he's got so much pressure.
And look, we've talked to this for a couple of weeks,
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so anybody who's new to that take congratulations. But I mean, really,
he's the guy out of anybody in the playoffs that
has the most, even more at stake than Jason Tatum,
he's got the most at stake in these playoffs.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Well, the Celtics have it as a team like it's
the Tatum Brown duo, because I think they're now inextricably
linked together in terms of this stage of their careers.
When it comes to Luca, I mean, part of it
is you've seen some ball watching at times. I don't
know what how how bad the knee is, you just
got to play through it. But yeah, Kyrie Irving has
(19:04):
gotten to basketball and stayed as a consistent force. And
I mean you see how quickly people that have played
the game been around the game their whole lives. They'll
always point out, you know, what a maestro he is
and as a pure player when he's playing basketball. Two things, first,
I gotta give you credit. You were doing the the
(19:26):
rise of these other teams, the.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Tea Wolves and over there.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
You know, you look at the Thunder and then you
just very subtly got the Knicks into the Western Conference discussion.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Not just saying teams that are getting better.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I know, I was just saying you thought you were
slicking trying to sneak that in, so going to make sure.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
That I pointed that out that you know, you didn't
didn't slip one past me, Pal.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
But on the other side, right get the trade deadline,
they did get better defensively. It is something that Luca
is at least trying to be better at. And you
know the measurables are there. Once they brought in Gaffer
and you see PJ. Washington's out to a huge effort
for them here. He's got nineteen points in this first half.
So the addition of those two guys have been huge
(20:13):
for them down low in terms of, you know, fortifying
things that they're at the rim and forcing some more
jump shots instead of drives to the lane. So all
of that to say, yeah, Luca as an individual, a
lot of it is, yeah, what's what's your deal?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Is really what happens if you have another exit here,
and certainly from Mark Cuban, it becomes the well, what
do we have to do and how do we go
back to the drawing board if it's not working when
you bring in Kyrie, when you bring in these other
guys to help your front line, and it's you're still
not getting over what's the missing ingredient there?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Oh? It might have been Jalen Bronson to work with that.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Look, the missing ingredient may be Okay, maybe Luca is
just not that rising tide, lift all boats guy, right,
Maybe he's just not that kind of superstar right, as
talented as he is, maybe he's just not quite that guy.
And there's nothing wrong with that. But when you've built
your team saying, hey, Luca is our guy and let's
just get the right guys around him, maybe instead it's okay, well, Luca,
(21:13):
we've kind of seen the ceiling for him, So now
what do we need to do differently, Like, what do
we need to do. We can't we can't plan on
being Luca driven all the way and winning. And because
he's clearly six years I mean, this is the best
part of his career and you're not the trending up.
You're you're not.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
That's the hardest part of it, Right.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
We just celebrated an NFL draft with all these guys
getting picked, going, yeah, he'll turn twenty five next month,
he'll vie for the starting job.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Luca just turned twenty twenty five in the.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
End of February.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah, and we're already at the oh, the best years
of his career.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well, no, you've seen that's the way it works, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
But no, but you've seen great I mean, I've got
all of a sudden he's gonna get better. I mean,
he's been this guy. This is who he is. He's
that terrific. But maybe he's just not that kind of superstar.
Not all superstars created equally. There's a superstars that make
their teams better and carry them and elevate them. Right,
Lebron was that guy for so long. He's a great
guy to use an example of because he did that
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for so long, and now he's at a point in
his career where he's not that guy. He's simply a
great player, and so now trying to build a team
around him isn't the same. You can't go through him
and say, Okay, Lebron's going to be the guy that
lifts everybody around. No, Lebron's gonna get his Maybe Luca
is a I get mine kind of guy, And suddenly
it's we had to really spend big time to get
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more and really upgrade around him and not just say
well we got Kyrie and we did this, because maybe
Luca is not that guy. And if that happens, the
quicker the Mavericks get to that decision, the better off
they'll be because to continue to try to say, oh,
we can make it work with you, let's bring in
this support player and this support player. No, this is more.
You need to bring in somebody alongside him, because that's
what's gonna wind up. You're eventually gonna wind up winn
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a championship because I know, Look, Mark Cuban's one of
those few owners. He wants to win. He doesn't just
want to put a competitive product out there and play
well and fill this stand Steve Balmer, he doesn't want
to do that. He wants to win. But how much
does he know about putting that team together? I think
he might have a little bit more invested in Luca
being that next level that Dirk that brought him that
title than what he is. But again, this series is
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gonna tell us a lot. And right now they're up
by eleven with six minutes to go. In the second.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
He's got fast toilets, Jason, he.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Does, No fast toilets you make that's gonna get people
to come to game. Fift Yeah, fifty yef, you get listen,
you get fast toilets. You don't need Luca. You could
just put a bunch of guys out there that already
that are G League players and people aren't gonnected. I again, Paul,
these toilets really.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Cut down your concession costs too, because if folks need
to keep running back to the bathroom, you've got enough
plumbing to process it, so you can really cut.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Down on your costs. Boy, this is genius. I love this.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Uh So again, we'll have more on this game coming
up in a bit. But yes, today, the number seventy
eight has just absolutely run through the NBA because, as
PACER's head coach Carlisle promised last night, after calls were
not being made in small market teams are not getting
chances against the big market teams, all the bad officiating
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in the playoffs between the Pacers and the Knicks, and
even though he wanted to call last night that was
incorrect if they gave the ball to the Pacers in
the last minute of the game, he was still, for
some reason upset about an inadvertent whistle.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, but they did signal the double dribble. Yeah, but they.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Realized they did. But then they realized, Okay, it wasn't
a double dribble and nothing. It's not like the Pacers
stole the ball, went in for a layup. The Knicks
had the ball, they were dribbling. They whistled double dribble. Okay,
wait a bite. They looked at it and said, okay,
nothing happened, right, all right, But it wasn't would have
been a change of possession. Is that not the terms
of applying the rules?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
If it was if it was.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
A double no, if it was a double dribble, it
would have been. But they realized it was called the
double dribble.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
So you still went back and convened and looked at it, right,
and it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
You saw the replay that he double dribble. No, he didn't. No,
they they whatever they called it. They got the call right.
And it's not like the pay got the ball and
we're on a face. So I'll like another kickball where
we had the ball at a fast break and we're
gonna win the game if we get this call. No,
this was they made the right call, and Rick Carlyle
went crazy about it, wind up getting thrown out of
the game, and today has promised. They filed a complaint
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with the NBA over seventy eight calls that were missed
or called for in favor of the Knicks in the
first two games at MSG, some has to call terrible
seventy eight call seventy eight calls that either went the
next way that shouldn't or were not called. That the
Knicks really benefited by seventy eight calls. So what Rick
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Carlyle saying is that, Hey, this is what we saw
and each game should have been a thirty five point burial, right,
the Pacers should have beat the Knicks by thirty five
in both games because the officiating is just so.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I didn't say that, he just said, Hey, do your job.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You're missing seventy seventy eight. You couldn't get to one hundred.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I got Really, I think if I'm going to seventy eight,
I'm finding another twenty two.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Just on principle, How ridiculous is that seventy eight You
couldn't get eighty nice round number eighty calls, not seventy eight.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Where you stop at it, Really, seventy eight because it's
a broken record of eight sucks? Really about that boom
seventy eight r PM?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Is that what Rick Carlisle is spending time doing. Hey,
I want to watch, Hey, show me all these calls? Oh,
that's a foul. Oh that's a foul. Oh that's a foul.
Oh that's a foul. Seventy eight calls miss calls, seventy
eight of them. Seventy eight, not eighty, not eighty, five,
hundred hundred and ten, but not three either. I'd have gone,
this is what he says, This is what this is
what the Pacers say, is what's missed. There's missed calls
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in every game right now, seventy eight miss calls. Really,
there's seventy eight miss calls. Seventy eight, seventy eight, seventy
you're talking about thirty nine calls a game, thirty nine
calls in each of the first two games. The way
that weren't I mean really, I mean it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Look, but you also have all the time where you
don't blow a whistle. So that's part of the seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yes, but it's not like the Knicks couldn't put together
a bunch of that. I fire with the Knicks. I
would say, we have one hundred calls. It should have
went our way.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But but I think they should.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I think they should make that point, going, look, how
ridiculous this is not only from Carlisle. But what the
NBA is sending as an officiating crew night after night.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's just stupid, right, But I'm not mad because I
get it, because Rick Carlisle is unbelievably desperate. What did
I say when he said last night, Hey, we're getting
you know, with small market teams not getting officiated like
the big market teams. Right, he didn't say officiated.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
He was very careful with this wording there. This is
he was.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
He had already alluded to the officiating, and now he
was just talking about the small market teams, mid market
teams getting the shot against the big guys. Didn't say
anything about officiating. Look, he was all about looking out
for the little man.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Right, and he's just sending these seventy eight calls in
to just say hey, just so you know, like like
not a big deal, not a big but just so
you know, I want you to know that you missed
seventy eight calls that would have benefited my team.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Well, he could have rented out one of the big
screens there in Times Square and just started enumerating them,
you know, Ray.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Commish, go look out your window, Jerko.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I'm not mad. I'm not upset. I get it, because yes,
he's desperate, he's got a hope for change, because the Knicks,
with their physical style, have been able to impart their
will on the game. And look, Rick Buker told us
last night about Look, listen, this is what I'm seeing.
I'm seeing the Knicks physical style, and this is how
it's being called in the Pacers. When they try to
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play physical, they can't do it because it's not who
they are. The Pacers are a finesse team and it's
just not a great matchup. And look this is and
this is where it falls into. Some teams are great
matches for other teams. Some teams it's more difficult. So
I get it. I get the desperation. I completely understand
why he's doing this. He wants the calls in game three,
in game four because look, quite honestly, I'll still say
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tell you today, the Pacers aren't out of this right.
The Knicks are banged up. No og Anoobian game three,
we found that out today. Likely no Anunobian Game four either.
I'm fully ready for this series, be back at the garden,
tied it to a piece. Who knows if Jalen Brunton's
even gonna play tomorrow. How many minutes he plays if
he does, Look, the series is still there, and I
get the desperation of, hey, we want to try to
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at least get something going our way. So when we
get back home, the game is called a little bit differently.
Maybe he'll get Scott Foster assigned, the extender will show up.
But I get what he's going on, so I'm not
mad about it. I understand he's ridiculous. I mean to
sit here and go, let's send the NBA seventy eight
plays and it's stupid, but I get what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
It's okay, Well, but you've got to go.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
If you're gonna go in on this, I mean, you
really need to make the point sending them a one
sheeter of here's eight calls.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Well, we've already gotten those in the two minute reports.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
So you got to do the deep dive and have
your assistance go through and just say, look it, how
ridiculously egregious the refereeing has been. Even if it's all
a bunch of nonsense, you're in for a penny, you're
in for a pound, and you're really just trying to
make the point. Of Hey, let's take a look at
how we're a fish things. I mean, you and I
were watching it yesterday and obviously you've got your knicks
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colored glasses on. But how many times did you see
Jalen Brunson and the bang and banging down low and
creating space or whatever? It's like, is that technically a fall?
I mean, I get it, you're not gonna call it
every time down in the court, but I think that's
what Carlisle's doing. It's like, where's the where's the line
here in terms of how we're going to adjudicate these things,
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and not that his team can match that physicality, especially
if Halliburton is that fragile that a little push from
Josh Hart is gonna be enumerated as one of the
big things.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
He's got a bad back and he knew it and
look at that. So you don't have the physicality to
go at him.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And we know that.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
But I think you're just trying to get the NBA
on record, the gutlass, Adam Silver and the guys that
work in his office, because we've seen it time and again,
how how soft they are on crime in between the
white lines.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Exit out about a Fresca exit, swollen down, the Jason
Smizer with Mike Carmon Life and the time IRAQ dot
Com studios. So yeah, seventy unless maybe the Pacers have
found some more. They'll find some more in the next
day or so and say, hey, we got it up
to eighty five ninety five. You got ty Gay as
many as you want. You know, go back even regular
season games, use some of the regularly, go back to
other playoffs, go back in the past and find some
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other games, like from a couple of years ago, twenty
twenty two, twenty eighteen. Get some of the Yeah, all
those miss calls.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
And they should have never needed the heroics from Reggie
Miller if that game had.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Been called, right.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean, in fifteen years, the Pacers are gonna be
sitting around, They'll be doing interviews with Brick, Carlisle and
and all like Halliburton after he's retired, they're going You know,
if we had just gotten that kickball call at the
end of Game one, we'd have won the NBA title
that year. All we needed was that kickball call in
a tie game with fifty five seconds left, and we
would have won it. All that would have been us Oh,
I can't believe we didn't get that. That's gonna be
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the Pacers that space dat. But we'll have more on
the seventy eight calls coming up in a bit, but
straight ahead, big NBA news today. One team has fired
their head coach, and I'll tell you what he might
be the only solution for another team in need of
a head coach. That's next, right here, Jason to Mike.
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The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
live live Fromthetireck dot Com Studios. Just before halftime, Oklahoma
City has battled back. It is a sixty five sixty
two Dallas lead just before halftime. This was a ten
point lead for the Mavericks earlier in the second quarter,
but now the thunder have cut it to at least
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six of three goes in for Dallas, so they'll still
have the lead going into halftime, but still a lot
of basketball left to go. Again, that's your score at halftime,
sixty eight to sixty two. So today we saw a
big coaching move. Frank Vogel is out after one year
in Phoenix. One year. They signed him to do a
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big at five years, thirty.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Million do yees, sorry, Frank, thirty million year.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
We're gonna eat the Matt hb is going, Yeah, whatever
I have it, I'll eat it. It's only a head coach. Whatever.
Uh So he is out, which is not a surprise
because look, quite honestly, once you heard the Phoenix Suns
questioning each other, questioning the coaching staff, a change has
to happen, right. I mean, you can't. You can't keep everybody.
You can't keep a coach around. When players go public
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saying we didn't understand something, we weren't prepared, we don't
know what was going on, we don't know what was happening,
and it's look, it's a real easy thing for players
to do to say, oh, I don't like this coach.
I'm gonna say we didn't understand the game plan, or
we weren't prepared for what the other team was ready
to do. All this stuff, We're gonna throw the coach
under the bus. Right, So this wasn't just wasn't surprising
at all. But I'll tell you not that it matters
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who the Lakers' next head coaches because Lebron and Ad
do whatever they want to anyway, right, I mean, it's
it's really it's really almost irrelevant who the Lakers' next
head coaches because it's not like suddenly these guys are
gonna buy into everything they're doing. They do they do.
They do their own thing, and that trickles down to
the rest of the team. That's something that crushes the Lakers.
You'd like them to both be more leaders, but this
is kind of who they are. Lebron has always been
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this kind of guy, and now he's got a d Like, yeah,
AD's like a clone of Lebron. Yeah, we do our
own thing. It doesn't really matter. However, if you are
the Lakers and you're saying, Okay, is JJ Reddick gonna
be good? I don't know, right, Mike Budenholzer looks like
he's gonna be the Son's next head coach. That's the
guy they have. There's other Kenny Atkinson has mentioned out
there as well. Frank Vogel is a really good defensive coach. Right,
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three times his teams have been at the top of
the NBA, including when he coached the Lakers. I know
that the next team he goes to will be better defensively.
I've already seen it with the Lakers. If it doesn't matter,
if you're just looking to throw darts, this is a gift.
This is a gift where both sides have to say,
all right, we understand. Yeah, Frank Vogel's way, maybe it
was time for a change. He needed to change, we
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needed to change. But this is what worked. You won
the title in twenty twenty. You won the title, You're
a great defensive team. You don't have a lot of
money to remake this Lakers team. So where's it gonna
get better? Hey, if you get better defensively, that's it.
People don't think about that about how if we get
better defensively, suddenly we're gonna win more games. It's not
always about adding players. But I know they'll be better defensively.
And if the Lakers can do that, yeah, maybe that's
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what they need to get over the top. So if
I'm right now thinking we just got a gift, we
just got a gift that Frank voge will being available,
and we have to look and say, okay, Lebron, you understand,
you want a title with him, And there's a lot
of a lot of guys walking out there with titles
that we can go out and get that have worked.
Then understand Los Angeles and one in LA. He's one
of them. I think you kind of have to make
this work now if you're the Lakers. It's the best
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solution you could possibly have.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Wow, Wow that you know, you who says you can't
go home again go in to Lebron. It's like, you know,
we're gonna need you to commit to more than one
or two defensive efforts and a quarter. How do you
feel about that? I know, I don't know that's gonna work. Man,
that's a long time man.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Lebron to play defense. He got four years ago. But
still but he's proven. He's proven. You're taking a chance
on anybody else, you well knows. Most of the season
was out of the bubble, and the Lakers were the
best team in the NBA. They were rolling. When when
the NBA season got stopped, Its not like they got
into the playoffs and suddenly oh hey no they were rolling.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah no.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
That was just my attempt to just, you know, the
tongue in cheek because everybody gets all mad about that
Jim and tries to discount it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
But when when you get down.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
To I don't think it's a terrible idea because I mean,
look at the rest of the coaches that are out there.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Even if Budenholzer was the.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Guy you wanted first, Yeah, you watched a lot of
struggles there. I mean, and the guy that you know
would want you to play defense and whatever else. But
is he a guy that it's necessarily gonna mesh with
Lebron like that? It's the billion dollar question or a
multi billion dollar question of Lebron and a d Who
are they gonna listen to it? If you can't ty
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leu away from the Clippers, that truly when it comes down.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
To you, but really everybody else you're taking a chance on, right,
That's the whole thing is Could Kenny Atkinson work?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I just keep doing the Homer Simpson. I don't know.
I don't know. Well these guys work. Will JJ Reddick work?
You know, he's Lebron's friend. I don't know. Really, Lebron's
gonna buyd to JJ Redick. At least Frank Vogel has
that that cachet of history. We won a title. We
won a title. Can we do this together and win
a title? And I think, look, Lebron has won titles
with coaches he's felt towards before. In the past, he
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was and with with with Eric Spolster An he won, right,
He's been and with guys before. Yeah, and he won.
So I see that this is like the only choice.
Like this is like, I mean, it's a gift that
he's available and it's got to be. Okay, whatever happened,
it's been a couple of years, and we know this
work before, and we're pretty sure this can work again.
So let's go do it. Run it back. I think
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you've had time. You've had time to get past you.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Know, there's been a lot of coaches in between, to
look and do the you know, the comparison side to side.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I mean really, I mean, I I don't see how
there's gonna be any other solution for the Lakers that's
better than this. I mean really, I really exit out
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dot Com Studios. Uh So, yeah, Frank Vogel, Lakers, Hey
see if we can make it happen. We have more
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I know, Mike Harmon. Everybody is upset about the Celtics
and how the Cavaliers won this game, going away and
out shocking everybody one eighteen ninety four. But here here's
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the thing. The Celtics got screwed. Ask me why why?
Because it screwed. Watching this game, I counted seventy eight
calls non calls that were not whistled or whistled that
could have been whistled and were not. That went the
Cavaliers way. I mean, this is this is just Robert
Wall seventy eight calls. I mean it was. It was
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won every twenty seconds. I could not believe that in
the in this game.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
I think you're really conservative there in your estimate. Unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
And then you add the egregious efforts of people going
up the stairs with five minutes remaining, showing absolutely no faith. Okay,
that game was over, and you know you gotta beat traffic.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Yeah, you know, And that's first thing, okay, because because
look we'll get to the seventy eight calls. Everybody's making
a big deal. Look, this game has been was over
for a long time, just over. In the third quarter,
Joe Mizzula emptied his bench, Bickerstaff emptied his bench right
the last time. Of course, fans are gonna leave. What
is this all? I can't believe it. Fans leave games
early when it's a blowout and they're going, oh right,
when when the stars are out of the game and
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your team is not gonna win, Yes, people are gonna go.
I know I stay because I always like the stay,
because I'm like, okay, I paid for these seats. I'm
gonna stay for the whole game and everything else. So
that's cool, But I mean, people leave. This is not
Oh look at these fair weather Celtics fans. It's a
twenty five point game. Both benches are playing. I think
Kevin McHale was getting minutes at the end.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It was ah, look at this.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Look at these Celtics fans are left. Of course they're
gonna leave. Dude.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
As soon as Brissett and Spee and Springer and Walsh
got off the bench, that was it. You might as
well have thrown the damn towel Rocky style. I mean,
that was it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
I am I look with this game, you can see
this is the Celtics are kind of like the Nicks
little bit where everything is either the greatest it could
be or the worst it could be. Right, Oh, so
that's kind of it. And right now people are going
absolutely crazy with this whole Celtics say, look at the Celtics.
They lose again. How do they do this? How do
they do that? Okay, okay, now look let's be realistic
(03:02):
about this. Now, let's be and look how calm I
am tonight with no Knicks game. I look how comments.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Think the Rangers and yeah, Hurricanes would have you a
little bit flat.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
We're going overtime and we're down to zip. So I
feel like, okay, this series has already gotten away from us.
We change goalies tonight and so far okay. Uh but
you know, look, I we're in overtime. We're waiting to
get there. It's okay, we're down to it.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
But I mean but really, but look, I mean as
much as I love the Hurricanes, I mean, come on,
the Knicks, I mean the Hurricanes and the Mets and
the Jets and every I mean I got a lot
on my plate with the Knicks, man, I mean, this
is this is like, this is full. This is like
the Knicks are taking up my whole plate and I
got room for little bits and pieces on the side.
But I mean the Knicks are taking up everything now.
I mean seventy eight foul called man, But you got.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
A lot of time. Yeah, but I mean that enumeration
of that is going to be absurd. Number fourteen. You're
gonna be counting like FRANCESSA before it's done.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
But look, this is the reality for this game. Does
this mean suddenly the Celtics stink and they don't have
championship medal, and all of a sudden, Oh, what I
was saying about the Celtics twenty four hours ago no
longer applies. No, of course, although I do feel like
I curse on last slight by saying there's no reason
why the Celtics gotta be feeling great about themselves. Maybe
they're feeling too great, maybe they're feeling teering, going look
(04:15):
at this, look at this. The Knicks are banged up.
They're probably gonna win that series, and we're gonna get
a banged up nixt team. We're gonna roll into the finals. Yeah,
you know, so you get a game like this. They
had a game like this in the last round, and
what happened. They stepped up and gave Miami a clinic
the rest of the way, Right, So I get it.
But this is the real takeaway from this game. Are
the Celtics still gonna win this series? Yes, they're the
better team, But the real thing is to say, Okay,
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this is where you see a real fatal flaw that
the Celtics had, where if you're playing if you're playing
the Celtics, either in the next round of the playoffs,
or in the NBA Finals, if things aren't going well,
if the Celtics are dominating, you know, they will give
you a stinker, either because they're they're not as focused,
or they just don't have the killer instinct. For whatever reason,
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they have a prepent to give you a stinker at
the time you least expect it. So teams aren't gonna
go into these series against the Celtics and lose the
mental battle or think, wow, man, we're down two zip
going home. This is really difficult. Man. No, they're gonna think, hey,
you know what, the Celtics are gonna give us one.
They're gonna give us one because they're not strong enough mentally.
They will give us one. Don't lose, hope, stay in this.
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Don't feel like we come into the game and the
referees are against us. They're no, they will give you one.
That's the real takeaway from this is that they have
a marked propensity to give you stinkers like this, and
that just helps feed team's confidence when they play it
in the playoffs and when you're playing teams that aren't
up to your caliber, it just seems like something that
happens and you can let it go. Like this will happen,
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to let it go, be ready for Game three. But
you get to the conference finals where it's the best
team you've played against so far, and then in the
NBA Finals where it's the best team you've played all season.
That's where you say, all right, it's gonna happen, and
that's what could wind up killing you. I just that's
the real takeaway from this, not for this series. It's
about watch what happens later on when you feel like
this Celtics just and you feel like they have everything
(06:01):
going on, They're they're gonna give you a big stinker
like this, and watch what happens as a result.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, eventually you're gonna run into the team where you
can't get away with it, and then it starts to
snowball in this case, terrible three point shooting, getting out
rebound and then a huge second half from Donovan Mitchell
shades of what we saw last night with your guy brunts,
and without missing you know, that quarter due to injury,
of course, but I mean Derek White, who we'd been
piping up most of the season and certainly during this
(06:29):
playoff run. He was awful three of eleven from the field,
in his thirty minutes and you look at the starters,
just an abysmal defensive effort across the board and say, well,
no porzingis well Jared Allen didn't play once again. That
was one of the things we were talking about with
the Cavs in terms of losing some of that tenacity
and big man to you know, be able to slow
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things down and work the board. Well he wasn't. There
didn't matter. They still out rebounded the Celtics by thirteen
and took care of business, you know, and what was
overall pretty clean game and only seven turnovers for the
Celtics in this one. So you can't blame that, right,
just being careless with the basketball except for taking bad,
ill advised shots.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
They just sucked. Mike.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, there is that, you know, for for one night.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
But it's the don't play with your food, right, I mean,
that's if you're that much better than this squad, don't
breathe any life into it, particularly in a game at home.
And this is what they keep doing when they're double
digit home favorites. They keep losing outright, it' said just
a joke of an effort and from Missoula. You know,
you've come to expect this, and which is why he
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was on the hot seat in the offseason, how real
or imagine it was still a talking point and breaking
them up and whatever. You see efforts like this, and
you know, the unrest certainly is there even if you
are the decided favorite.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, look, I mean that. And that's the issue with
the Celtics. And I told you if they don't if
they don't get to the fight, they don't win this year.
They're on my never again list. I mean they really,
they're on my net. I have to put the Celtics
on my and a lot of teams are starting to reside,
am I never again?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
I was gonna say, didn't you add like seven NBA
teams this year?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
But there's only thirty pounds? They're not a standing Yeah,
but he goes back.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
To the drawing board with them.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Yeah, but this is like you can I mean, I
can never pick them in like this is there yet?
Like when else are they ever gonna win it? And
I'm a firm believer. I know every season is different
than the season before, and you don't know what your
your path is going to be. Who's gonna be healthy,
who's gonna be injured. But if you don't win. Now,
when basically the Eastern Conferences said, hey, look here's your
path to the to the NBA Finals, it's like Dorothy
(08:33):
walking down the yellow brick road going, hey, just go
all the way, just go all the way to the end,
and there's the castle and there's a wizard. Everything is
absolutely fine. You're gonna be all good. Yeah, okay, okayo.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Some little things are gonna pop up along the way,
but otherwise it's a pretty straight path.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I mean, listen, there's and here's the thing. The wizard
does it. It's just a guy. It's just a guy
behind the whole big wall. Uh. It's sorry, spoiler, I
just spoiled the Wizard of Us. But like that, that's
what I mean. If they don't do it this year,
like when are they gonna do it? Right, We're seeing
the rise of all these other great young teams in
the West, and the rise of Minnesota and Oklahoma City
and Denver still really good if they got their heads
(09:06):
on straight, right, Like you're still seeing really good teams
that are just getting better. The knicks are gonna get better, right,
I mean that that's just how it's gonna go right,
They're gonna get better. The Sixers are gonna get better
now that they figured out more of their team than
they went out in the first round. So I don't
I don't see where suddenly oh yeah, yeah, here's another year,
another year of Tatum and Jalen Brown. And it was
(09:26):
poor zingis it was if they don't I mean really
never again, because I don't know when I'm gonna say, hey,
you know what, you know who? I like the Celtics.
I don't see when nothing you will? No, no, no,
I will. I went against my never again list once
and I shouldn't have it. I'm never doing it again.
I never said no, no, no, I never do it
again before because it's Harmon's fault if I do. He's
(09:47):
a guy that's got to keep track of the never again.
Let's go wait a minute. You said you never picked Oh,
that's right now, he's got it. Would be the one
to tell me, and then you ignore us. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
this is no. I'm really no.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You're too busy tweeting out your your thoughts. And then
we were trying to remind you and you're like, no.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I really like this squad.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Now they made one or two principal moves. You go,
well they're different. Now there'll be a different mentality.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
No, this is this is no. No, this is where
I need you. I need you. You know, this is
the whole thing where Hey, sometimes you gotta tell your
friends stuff, even if they're not ready to hear it.
You gotta say, listen, what are you doing. You said
you'd never pick them again, and then you got to
talk me off the ledge on that because you can't
let me do it. You can't let me pick Arizona
to win the NCAA title again. I was stupid. I
was leading the whole bleeping bracket challenge at Fox Sports
(10:32):
Radio for like the first two weeks, but because stupidly,
I pick Arizona because they were on my never again list.
And I said, no, no, no, I really like Arizona
this year. That's your fault for saying, hey, they're on
you never again list. Pick somebody else and said, okay,
you gone, and I would have won, and suddenly I
would have won a TV or whatever that we gave
away out, you know, I mean, that would have been
me if.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
You said no Arizona. You heard Big.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Mac, No, no, dude, if that was the case, I
wouldn't be able to keep a thought for more than
a Secondude, you aligned yourself with Arnie's team, Noanard, as
soon as you do that, you do them yourself. No,
I would know never. I should never have done that.
And it's your fault for not talking to me. You say, listen,
you sure about this. Don't you want to do something else?
(11:13):
Don't you want to pick somebody up. No, you didn't
do that for me. You didn't do that. You didn't
do Frostburg didn't help me. Neither, you guys help me. Yeah,
that was your fault for that.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
I should have won evil on me.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
I should have won. I mean, look, first of all,
there was all kinds of shenanigans where how I was
still in first place? There was all these points that
were available, There was a lot, there was a lot
of fuzzy math. Yeah, it was a depending on what
time of day you looked at things.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's like it's like it kind of like
if you go to look at your investment accounts, depending
on the time of day, it may not have updated,
right because they don't do this stuff with mutual funds
and stuff until the end of end of hours and
then the overnight compilation.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Wait anute, I checked my investors at ten thirty. I'm good.
What do you mean I'm broke? Hit refresh? Oh no,
you didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
See today's market activity, tuna.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Sorry, did you have stock in the Knicks finishing the
playoffs with five healthy players? Yeah, I'm sorry. You took
a hit on that. That's really gonna work the way. No,
it's your fault. You got you guys need to do
that for me from now on. If I if someone
goes on the never Again, they're on it forever. Like
they're on it, They're on it forever.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I tell you what, I'll make a multi colored poster
board like Ronnie Wood does with the Rolling Stone setlist,
and it'll just have all the teams from every sport
because we're at what about eighty teams?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
That though, no, no Carlisle complaints.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I gotta fight it, but I think my never againless
now is about ten teams. Well no, no, come on, dude,
Look how good we are? Come on?
Speaker 5 (12:37):
No way, man, You guys are a week from poop
in your pants.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
No no, but here's the thing, justin and it's the
worst case scenarios. Tonight's let down, pathetic effort by the
Boston Celtics at me at Swollen Dome gave Smith more hope. Well,
if we could just survive this series, we could go
beat these guys.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
That's exactly what.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
This this game did today. It's likes aren't that good?
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I mean, Mitchell and Brunston are kind of the same guy,
don't we could do this?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Stop?
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Jalen Brunton is the best player in the playoffs. Look,
Donovan Mitchell is great, and I'm sure he's gonna want
to Now you're dismissing Donovan. Donny Mitchell is great, dude.
Come on, man, Jalen you you didn't even hear me.
Rick Buker on our show last night said, Jalen Brunston
is doing Michael Jordan thing.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And Frossberg and I immediately texted him saying, did you
take money?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
He's the best He's the best player in the playoffs.
It's not even close as good as as good as
Anthony Edwards, is it? Oh he's Michael John Yeah, he's great.
He's not the best player in the playoffs. Jalen Brunson
has been and is the best player online took. Yeah,
oh no, how can he get on? Is and Drew
Brees still on hold, He's not gonna get through. It's
not gonna.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That's a fair point.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Uh, exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down. The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carbon improving
that I can only have so many nice things in
overtime giveaway and the Hurricanes end, The Rangers get a
deflection in front of the net. They score in overtime
early in overtime to beat the Hurricanes three to two.
Rangers now started the postseason seven and oh and they
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lead the Hurricanes three games to none. Yeah, so now
it looks like all the yin and yang is all
yinning towards the Knicks.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
You know what you need after that? What's that one
of those blue hurricanes?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Oh? I'd love all blue hurricanes are so good? Oh
my goodness, Yeah, I love a bluehirt. Now, blue hurricane
and a big back. No blue hurricane for you, blue
hurricane and big Mac. You get a purple hurricane because
you're a Northwestern purple Yeah, there you go, there we go. Men.
The Jason Smith Show is my best friend Mike Harmon.
Look that's the big takeaway for the Celtics, right, they
have a mark propensity to give you an absolute stinker
(14:47):
poop emoji game, and it comes back to get you
when you're playing the best teams in the NBA. So
when it happens later in the playoffs, you go, what
just happened there? They just beat the Timberwolves by twenty
five and now they look at this is what hap
happens to the Celtics because mentally they're not where they should.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Be and this is what they do to their backers
when they're double digit favorites at all.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
We'll have more coming up next NBA, but clearly the
number of the day in all of sports is seventy eight.
We get into that silliness straight ahead right here, Jason
and Mike. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
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It is a blue out night, yeah in Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Not a blowout yet, not a blue out.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
It's a blue out. It's a blue out, not it's
a blue out night. All those blue T shirts all
looks so great, everybody's wearing them. It's fantastic. H But
so far it's been Dallas with the better end of
the play. They lead the Thunder right now in game two,
forty five thirty seven. Luka Doncic maybe hearing whispers, maybe
hearing him out out He needs to do more and
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what's happening. He's got sixteen so far to go along
with six rebounds and five assists. He has had an
incredible start to this game. It's a ten point lead
now for Dallas again, still early, a lot of time
left to go eight minutes to go in the second quarter,
Shake Gildess, Alexander's got ten for Oklahoma City. But you
know that this is one of those games where I
expect something and expected something really big from Luca because
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you can hear the reprits and we've talked about it.
There's nobody with more pressure on himself in a playoff
this year than Luka Doncic because he's been in the
league a while. And it's not like the Mavericks are
trending towards Hey. Every year, we're getting a little bit
further in the playoffs, get a little bit closer to
being complete team to win the NBA title. No, every
year they're a nice forty five, forty eight fifty win team.
(17:28):
They went around in the places they've been to the
Cups finals once. That's fine, but they got toasted in it.
But there's no real growth, there's no Hey, you can
tell the Mavericks are starting to become a power like
some of these other teams that you've seen on the
upward swing the laste years. Right, You've seen it from Minnesota,
Oklahoma City, you've seen it with the Knicks, You've seen
it with other teams. But this is a team where
it's like, Okay, they got to start doing something, and
(17:50):
Luca's here in the whispers now finally that Hey, you've
been in the league six years, man, and you have
the best player you've ever had playing alongside you in
Kyrie Irving, who is still in the league and didn't
find a way to take time off and take time
away this year or you know, spread sage on the
court before a game. No, he has been focused on
basketball and he has been terrific. It is the best
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teammate you have had, the most talented teammate you have had,
and here you are against the thunder team that is
pretty good. But wow, man, if you if they go
out again this year in the second round, suddenly you're saying,
who what? Maybe maybe you got to change how we
think about Luca. Maybe maybe Luca's more Carmelo Anthony than
he has anything else because he's got so much pressure.
And look, we've talked to this for a couple of weeks,
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so anybody who's new to that take congratulations. But I mean, really,
he's the guy out of anybody in the playoffs that
has the most, even more at stake than Jason Tatum,
he's got the most at stake in these playoffs.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Well, the Celtics have it as a team like it's
the Tatum Brown duo, because I think they're now inextricably
linked together in terms of this stage of their careers.
When it comes to Luca, I mean, part of it
is you've seen some ball watching at times. I don't
know what how how bad the knee is, you just
got to play through it. But yeah, Kyrie Irving has
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gotten to basketball and stayed as a consistent force. And
I mean you see how quickly people that have played
the game been around the game their whole lives. They'll
always point out, you know, what a maestro he is
and as a pure player when he's playing basketball. Two things, first,
I gotta give you credit. You were doing the the
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rise of these other teams, the.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Tea Wolves and over there.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
You know, you look at the Thunder and then you
just very subtly got the Knicks into the Western Conference discussion.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Not just saying teams that are getting better.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I know, I was just saying you thought you were
slicking trying to sneak that in, so going to make sure.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
That I pointed that out that you know, you didn't
didn't slip one past me, Pal.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
But on the other side, right get the trade deadline,
they did get better defensively. It is something that Luca
is at least trying to be better at. And you
know the measurables are there. Once they brought in Gaffer
and you see PJ. Washington's out to a huge effort
for them here. He's got nineteen points in this first half.
So the addition of those two guys have been huge
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for them down low in terms of, you know, fortifying
things that they're at the rim and forcing some more
jump shots instead of drives to the lane. So all
of that to say, yeah, Luca as an individual, a
lot of it is, yeah, what's what's your deal?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Bro?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Is really what happens if you have another exit here,
and certainly from Mark Cuban, it becomes the well, what
do we have to do and how do we go
back to the drawing board if it's not working when
you bring in Kyrie, when you bring in these other
guys to help your front line, and it's you're still
not getting over what's the missing ingredient there?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Oh? It might have been Jalen Bronson to work with that.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Look, the missing ingredient may be Okay, maybe Luca is
just not that rising tide, lift all boats guy, right,
Maybe he's just not that kind of superstar right, as
talented as he is, maybe he's just not quite that guy.
And there's nothing wrong with that. But when you've built
your team saying, hey, Luca is our guy and let's
just get the right guys around him, maybe instead it's okay, well, Luca,
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we've kind of seen the ceiling for him, So now
what do we need to do differently, Like, what do
we need to do. We can't we can't plan on
being Luca driven all the way and winning. And because
he's clearly six years I mean, this is the best
part of his career and you're not the trending up.
You're you're not.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
That's the hardest part of it, Right.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
We just celebrated an NFL draft with all these guys
getting picked, going, yeah, he'll turn twenty five next month,
he'll vie for the starting job.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Luca just turned twenty twenty five in the.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
End of February.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Yeah, and we're already at the oh, the best years
of his career.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Well, no, you've seen that's the way it works, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
But no, but you've seen great I mean, I've got
all of a sudden he's gonna get better. I mean,
he's been this guy. This is who he is. He's
that terrific. But maybe he's just not that kind of superstar.
Not all superstars created equally. There's a superstars that make
their teams better and carry them and elevate them. Right,
Lebron was that guy for so long. He's a great
guy to use an example of because he did that
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for so long, and now he's at a point in
his career where he's not that guy. He's simply a
great player, and so now trying to build a team
around him isn't the same. You can't go through him
and say, Okay, Lebron's going to be the guy that
lifts everybody around. No, Lebron's gonna get his Maybe Luca
is a I get mine kind of guy, And suddenly
it's we had to really spend big time to get
(22:32):
more and really upgrade around him and not just say
well we got Kyrie and we did this, because maybe
Luca is not that guy. And if that happens, the
quicker the Mavericks get to that decision, the better off
they'll be because to continue to try to say, oh,
we can make it work with you, let's bring in
this support player and this support player. No, this is more.
You need to bring in somebody alongside him, because that's
what's gonna wind up. You're eventually gonna wind up winn
(22:52):
a championship because I know, Look, Mark Cuban's one of
those few owners. He wants to win. He doesn't just
want to put a competitive product out there and play
well and fill this stand Steve Balmer, he doesn't want
to do that. He wants to win. But how much
does he know about putting that team together? I think
he might have a little bit more invested in Luca
being that next level that Dirk that brought him that
title than what he is. But again, this series is
(23:13):
gonna tell us a lot. And right now they're up
by eleven with six minutes to go. In the second.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
He's got fast toilets, Jason, he.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Does, No fast toilets you make that's gonna get people
to come to game. Fift Yeah, fifty yef, you get listen,
you get fast toilets. You don't need Luca. You could
just put a bunch of guys out there that already
that are G League players and people aren't gonnected. I again, Paul,
these toilets really.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Cut down your concession costs too, because if folks need
to keep running back to the bathroom, you've got enough
plumbing to process it, so you can really cut.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Down on your costs. Boy, this is genius. I love this.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Uh So again, we'll have more on this game coming
up in a bit. But yes, today, the number seventy
eight has just absolutely run through the NBA because, as
PACER's head coach Carlisle promised last night, after calls were
not being made in small market teams are not getting
chances against the big market teams, all the bad officiating
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in the playoffs between the Pacers and the Knicks, and
even though he wanted to call last night that was
incorrect if they gave the ball to the Pacers in
the last minute of the game, he was still, for
some reason upset about an inadvertent whistle.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, but they did signal the double dribble. Yeah, but they.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Realized they did. But then they realized, Okay, it wasn't
a double dribble and nothing. It's not like the Pacers
stole the ball, went in for a layup. The Knicks
had the ball, they were dribbling. They whistled double dribble. Okay,
wait a bite. They looked at it and said, okay,
nothing happened, right, all right, But it wasn't would have
been a change of possession. Is that not the terms
of applying the rules?
Speaker 3 (24:43):
If it was if it was.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
A double no, if it was a double dribble, it
would have been. But they realized it was called the
double dribble.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
So you still went back and convened and looked at it, right,
and it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
You saw the replay that he double dribble. No, he didn't. No,
they they whatever they called it. They got the call right.
And it's not like the pay got the ball and
we're on a face. So I'll like another kickball where
we had the ball at a fast break and we're
gonna win the game if we get this call. No,
this was they made the right call, and Rick Carlyle
went crazy about it, wind up getting thrown out of
the game, and today has promised. They filed a complaint
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with the NBA over seventy eight calls that were missed
or called for in favor of the Knicks in the
first two games at MSG, some has to call terrible
seventy eight call seventy eight calls that either went the
next way that shouldn't or were not called. That the
Knicks really benefited by seventy eight calls. So what Rick
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Carlyle saying is that, Hey, this is what we saw
and each game should have been a thirty five point burial, right,
the Pacers should have beat the Knicks by thirty five
in both games because the officiating is just so.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
I didn't say that, he just said, Hey, do your job.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
You're missing seventy seventy eight. You couldn't get to one hundred.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
I got Really, I think if I'm going to seventy eight,
I'm finding another twenty two.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Just on principle, How ridiculous is that seventy eight You
couldn't get eighty nice round number eighty calls, not seventy eight.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Where you stop at it, Really, seventy eight because it's
a broken record of eight sucks? Really about that boom
seventy eight r PM?
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Is that what Rick Carlisle is spending time doing. Hey,
I want to watch, Hey, show me all these calls? Oh,
that's a foul. Oh that's a foul. Oh that's a foul.
Oh that's a foul. Seventy eight calls miss calls, seventy
eight of them. Seventy eight, not eighty, not eighty, five,
hundred hundred and ten, but not three either. I'd have gone,
this is what he says, This is what this is
what the Pacers say, is what's missed. There's missed calls
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in every game right now, seventy eight miss calls. Really,
there's seventy eight miss calls. Seventy eight, seventy eight, seventy
you're talking about thirty nine calls a game, thirty nine
calls in each of the first two games. The way
that weren't I mean really, I mean it's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Look, but you also have all the time where you
don't blow a whistle. So that's part of the seventy eight.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Yes, but it's not like the Knicks couldn't put together
a bunch of that. I fire with the Knicks. I
would say, we have one hundred calls. It should have
went our way.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
But but I think they should.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I think they should make that point, going, look, how
ridiculous this is not only from Carlisle. But what the
NBA is sending as an officiating crew night after night.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
It's just stupid, right, But I'm not mad because I
get it, because Rick Carlisle is unbelievably desperate. What did
I say when he said last night, Hey, we're getting
you know, with small market teams not getting officiated like
the big market teams. Right, he didn't say officiated.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
He was very careful with this wording there. This is
he was.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
He had already alluded to the officiating, and now he
was just talking about the small market teams, mid market
teams getting the shot against the big guys. Didn't say
anything about officiating. Look, he was all about looking out
for the little man.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Right, and he's just sending these seventy eight calls in
to just say hey, just so you know, like like
not a big deal, not a big but just so
you know, I want you to know that you missed
seventy eight calls that would have benefited my team.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Well, he could have rented out one of the big
screens there in Times Square and just started enumerating them,
you know, Ray.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Commish, go look out your window, Jerko.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I'm not mad. I'm not upset. I get it, because yes,
he's desperate, he's got a hope for change, because the Knicks,
with their physical style, have been able to impart their
will on the game. And look, Rick Buker told us
last night about Look, listen, this is what I'm seeing.
I'm seeing the Knicks physical style, and this is how
it's being called in the Pacers. When they try to
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play physical, they can't do it because it's not who
they are. The Pacers are a finesse team and it's
just not a great matchup. And look this is and
this is where it falls into. Some teams are great
matches for other teams. Some teams it's more difficult. So
I get it. I get the desperation. I completely understand
why he's doing this. He wants the calls in game three,
in game four because look, quite honestly, I'll still say
(28:49):
tell you today, the Pacers aren't out of this right.
The Knicks are banged up. No og Anoobian game three,
we found that out today. Likely no Anunobian Game four either.
I'm fully ready for this series, be back at the garden,
tied it to a piece. Who knows if Jalen Brunton's
even gonna play tomorrow. How many minutes he plays if
he does, Look, the series is still there, and I
get the desperation of, hey, we want to try to
(29:10):
at least get something going our way. So when we
get back home, the game is called a little bit differently.
Maybe he'll get Scott Foster assigned, the extender will show up.
But I get what he's going on, so I'm not
mad about it. I understand he's ridiculous. I mean to
sit here and go, let's send the NBA seventy eight
plays and it's stupid, but I get what he's doing.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
It's okay, Well, but you've got to go.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
If you're gonna go in on this, I mean, you
really need to make the point sending them a one
sheeter of here's eight calls.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Well, we've already gotten those in the two minute reports.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
So you got to do the deep dive and have
your assistance go through and just say, look it, how
ridiculously egregious the refereeing has been. Even if it's all
a bunch of nonsense, you're in for a penny, you're
in for a pound, and you're really just trying to
make the point. Of Hey, let's take a look at
how we're a fish things. I mean, you and I
were watching it yesterday and obviously you've got your knicks
(30:04):
colored glasses on. But how many times did you see
Jalen Brunson and the bang and banging down low and
creating space or whatever? It's like, is that technically a fall?
I mean, I get it, you're not gonna call it
every time down in the court, but I think that's
what Carlisle's doing. It's like, where's the where's the line
here in terms of how we're going to adjudicate these things,
(30:25):
and not that his team can match that physicality, especially
if Halliburton is that fragile that a little push from
Josh Hart is gonna be enumerated as one of the
big things.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
He's got a bad back and he knew it and
look at that. So you don't have the physicality to
go at him.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And we know that.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
But I think you're just trying to get the NBA
on record, the gutlass, Adam Silver and the guys that
work in his office, because we've seen it time and again,
how how soft they are on crime in between the
white lines.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Exit out about a Fresca exit, swollen down, the Jason
Smizer with Mike Carmon Life and the time IRAQ dot
Com studios. So yeah, seventy unless maybe the Pacers have
found some more. They'll find some more in the next
day or so and say, hey, we got it up
to eighty five ninety five. You got ty Gay as
many as you want. You know, go back even regular
season games, use some of the regularly, go back to
other playoffs, go back in the past and find some
(31:17):
other games, like from a couple of years ago, twenty
twenty two, twenty eighteen. Get some of the Yeah, all
those miss calls.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
And they should have never needed the heroics from Reggie
Miller if that game had.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Been called, right.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean, in fifteen years, the Pacers are gonna be
sitting around, They'll be doing interviews with Brick, Carlisle and
and all like Halliburton after he's retired, they're going You know,
if we had just gotten that kickball call at the
end of Game one, we'd have won the NBA title
that year. All we needed was that kickball call in
a tie game with fifty five seconds left, and we
would have won it. All that would have been us Oh,
I can't believe we didn't get that. That's gonna be
(31:50):
the Pacers that space dat. But we'll have more on
the seventy eight calls coming up in a bit, but
straight ahead, big NBA news today. One team has fired
their head coach, and I'll tell you what he might
be the only solution for another team in need of
a head coach. That's next, right here, Jason to Mike.
This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (32:20):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
live live Fromthetireck dot Com Studios. Just before halftime, Oklahoma
City has battled back. It is a sixty five sixty
two Dallas lead just before halftime. This was a ten
point lead for the Mavericks earlier in the second quarter,
but now the thunder have cut it to at least
(32:42):
six of three goes in for Dallas, so they'll still
have the lead going into halftime, but still a lot
of basketball left to go. Again, that's your score at halftime,
sixty eight to sixty two. So today we saw a
big coaching move. Frank Vogel is out after one year
in Phoenix. One year. They signed him to do a
(33:05):
big at five years, thirty.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Million do yees, sorry, Frank, thirty million year.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
We're gonna eat the Matt hb is going, Yeah, whatever
I have it, I'll eat it. It's only a head coach. Whatever.
Uh So he is out, which is not a surprise
because look, quite honestly, once you heard the Phoenix Suns
questioning each other, questioning the coaching staff, a change has
to happen, right. I mean, you can't. You can't keep everybody.
You can't keep a coach around. When players go public
(33:31):
saying we didn't understand something, we weren't prepared, we don't
know what was going on, we don't know what was happening,
and it's look, it's a real easy thing for players
to do to say, oh, I don't like this coach.
I'm gonna say we didn't understand the game plan, or
we weren't prepared for what the other team was ready
to do. All this stuff, We're gonna throw the coach
under the bus. Right, So this wasn't just wasn't surprising
at all. But I'll tell you not that it matters
(33:54):
who the Lakers' next head coaches because Lebron and Ad
do whatever they want to anyway, right, I mean, it's
it's really it's really almost irrelevant who the Lakers' next
head coaches because it's not like suddenly these guys are
gonna buy into everything they're doing. They do they do.
They do their own thing, and that trickles down to
the rest of the team. That's something that crushes the Lakers.
You'd like them to both be more leaders, but this
is kind of who they are. Lebron has always been
(34:15):
this kind of guy, and now he's got a d Like, yeah,
AD's like a clone of Lebron. Yeah, we do our
own thing. It doesn't really matter. However, if you are
the Lakers and you're saying, Okay, is JJ Reddick gonna
be good? I don't know, right, Mike Budenholzer looks like
he's gonna be the Son's next head coach. That's the
guy they have. There's other Kenny Atkinson has mentioned out
there as well. Frank Vogel is a really good defensive coach. Right,
(34:39):
three times his teams have been at the top of
the NBA, including when he coached the Lakers. I know
that the next team he goes to will be better defensively.
I've already seen it with the Lakers. If it doesn't matter,
if you're just looking to throw darts, this is a gift.
This is a gift where both sides have to say,
all right, we understand. Yeah, Frank Vogel's way, maybe it
was time for a change. He needed to change, we
(35:01):
needed to change. But this is what worked. You won
the title in twenty twenty. You won the title, You're
a great defensive team. You don't have a lot of
money to remake this Lakers team. So where's it gonna
get better? Hey, if you get better defensively, that's it.
People don't think about that about how if we get
better defensively, suddenly we're gonna win more games. It's not
always about adding players. But I know they'll be better defensively.
And if the Lakers can do that, yeah, maybe that's
(35:22):
what they need to get over the top. So if
I'm right now thinking we just got a gift, we
just got a gift that Frank voge will being available,
and we have to look and say, okay, Lebron, you understand,
you want a title with him, And there's a lot
of a lot of guys walking out there with titles
that we can go out and get that have worked.
Then understand Los Angeles and one in LA. He's one
of them. I think you kind of have to make
this work now if you're the Lakers. It's the best
(35:43):
solution you could possibly have.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Wow, Wow that you know, you who says you can't
go home again go in to Lebron. It's like, you know,
we're gonna need you to commit to more than one
or two defensive efforts and a quarter. How do you
feel about that? I know, I don't know that's gonna work. Man,
that's a long time man.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Lebron to play defense. He got four years ago. But
still but he's proven. He's proven. You're taking a chance
on anybody else, you well knows. Most of the season
was out of the bubble, and the Lakers were the
best team in the NBA. They were rolling. When when
the NBA season got stopped, Its not like they got
into the playoffs and suddenly oh hey no they were rolling.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah no.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
That was just my attempt to just, you know, the
tongue in cheek because everybody gets all mad about that
Jim and tries to discount it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
But when when you get down.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
To I don't think it's a terrible idea because I mean,
look at the rest of the coaches that are out there.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Even if Budenholzer was the.
Speaker 4 (36:41):
Guy you wanted first, Yeah, you watched a lot of
struggles there. I mean, and the guy that you know
would want you to play defense and whatever else. But
is he a guy that it's necessarily gonna mesh with
Lebron like that? It's the billion dollar question or a
multi billion dollar question of Lebron and a d Who
are they gonna listen to it? If you can't ty
(37:01):
leu away from the Clippers, that truly when it comes down.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
To you, but really everybody else you're taking a chance on, right,
That's the whole thing is Could Kenny Atkinson work?
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
I just keep doing the Homer Simpson. I don't know.
I don't know. Well these guys work. Will JJ Reddick work?
You know, he's Lebron's friend. I don't know. Really, Lebron's
gonna buyd to JJ Redick. At least Frank Vogel has
that that cachet of history. We won a title. We
won a title. Can we do this together and win
a title? And I think, look, Lebron has won titles
with coaches he's felt towards before. In the past, he
(37:31):
was and with with with Eric Spolster An he won, right,
He's been and with guys before. Yeah, and he won.
So I see that this is like the only choice.
Like this is like, I mean, it's a gift that
he's available and it's got to be. Okay, whatever happened,
it's been a couple of years, and we know this
work before, and we're pretty sure this can work again.
So let's go do it. Run it back. I think
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you've had time. You've had time to get past you.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Know, there's been a lot of coaches in between, to
look and do the you know, the comparison side to side.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
I mean really, I mean, I I don't see how
there's gonna be any other solution for the Lakers that's
better than this. I mean really, I really exit out
about a Fresca exit swollen down the Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Carmon Love from the tirec
dot Com Studios. Uh So, yeah, Frank Vogel, Lakers, Hey
see if we can make it happen. We have more
(38:26):
NBA on the way, but coming up next, we also
got a big story out of football. Where do you
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