June 7, 2023 • 38 mins
Arnie Spanier and Steve DeSaegher, in for Jason and Mike, react to the wild news that the PGA Tour will be merging with the controversial LIV Golf Tour. Arnie believes Ja Morant is stealing his ideas to try to avoid punishment. The guys discuss the NBA Finals ahead on Game 3 on Wednesday. Arnie explains his biggest issue with the NBA Finals so far.
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Speaker 4 (00:56):
You're in you guys coming, Arnie. I was very happy
to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
For the guys. Jason Smith is his best friend. Mike
Carbon How you doing tonight to saying doing well?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I thought there wasn't gonna be much in the way
of news. My goodness is their news tonight, just because
there's no Stanley Cup, no NBA Finals game, tonight. We're good.
We got something I know?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Is that crazy? I never thought that golf would not
only lead the headline, but over the NBA finals. I mean, geez,
could you imagine if like the Lakers were playing, We're
leading with golf and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Well, this is proof of how huge a story this is.
This happened sometimes in sports where the story is bigger
than the sport. It's kind of like when Michael Phelps
really started to dominate the Olympics. It was a story
that was bigger than that sport. It didn't matter if
you watch the Olympics or certainly if you want swimming.
It just hit the headlines and deserved to this. Yikes,
(01:51):
what went on this morning? A shocker and mostly a
shocker to the stars of the PGA tour.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh say that again. I'll tell you what. You don't
have it Twitter account, do you, or at least you
won't give it to us. If you do so, you
better follow my Twitter accountans. I want to get a
lot of tweets today from the people to go ahead,
and you know what they feel about this. You can
get a hold of me a's thinking genius one. So
hopefully we'll get a lot of those just start well,
first of all, it started this morning, right, what time
(02:18):
was it around this morning?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It's like nine CNBC something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, of course, if you don't know, if you're on
the Rock PGA Tour of Golf, they unite, they're gonna
come under one umbrella. What the DP World Tour, It's
gonna be one kumbai ya thing. When you first tarted,
I'm gonna ask you first, when you first heard what happened,
what was your emotional What was the first thing that
went through your mind? How did you feel?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Absolutely stunned? And very quickly I thought, you know, once
we get to December, this will still be one of
the biggest stories of the entire sports year. It's just
and especially something off the field. If you made a
separate list for the off the field sports stories of
twenty twenty three, this is going to be way up there.
It's huge.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I saw it this morning, and first I thought it
was a you know, one of those parody accounts, and
then maybe I'm like, oh, you got it right? Why hey?
And I didn't click on it right away. I didn't
want to go and like it and then do the
reach twheet and then you know, plag call bickup. What
are you doing? That's something that's like weird now Yankevich's encounters,
you know, just some bologna. And then I look like
(03:21):
a knucklehead because you know, it's it's it's kind of early.
We're up late last night, you know, we're doing the show.
So I'm like, nah, let me let me just think
about this for a second. Let me see because if
this is true, there's gonna be more than one person
reporting on it. That was my first thought. I that's fair. Yeah,
I assume they're gonna be coming in by the dozens
(03:43):
if this turns out to be true. So I waited
about sixty seconds and they just started to roll on in.
Oh boy, were they coming on it. And it didn't
take long for the anger to get on it. I
gotta tell you, if I'm Jay Mooringhan, the president of
the PGA, I actually feel bad for him. Yes, he's
a hip I had you feel bad for him just
(04:04):
on a personal note, you know what I mean? Can
you imagine what he's going through now? I would have
loved to have been a fly on the wall when
he was getting this deal done. Would you not have huh.
Would would you not have liked to have been to
and hear what was going on there? He is just
he is like public enemy number one right now. I
gotta tell you, I just want to go back to
a year ago to Sega when they first said this.
(04:27):
I'm a lot like our listeners, you know what I mean.
I'm not a professional athlete doing the show. You know,
I'm not a you know, one of those TV guys
doing the show or one of those journalists. I'm a
lot like our listeners out there. So last year when
this was going on and they started pulling it in
our heartstrings saying okay, you know nine to eleven and
the victims of nine eleven, it got to me for
(04:50):
a while. I'm like, wow, you know this is this
is really tough. How you supposed to support both tours?
You know when they fill that at you. But then
you go back and you start they could look at
all the stuff that we use every day, and we're
hypocrites also, And I you know, I heard Chris Bussard
reading all the companies American companies, Yeah, oh, American companies
(05:10):
that do business over there. It is I mean a
list like as long as my arm.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
It's like the hypocrisy we heard when Lebron James was
talking about people marching for freedom against communists China. It's like, Okay,
you're in bed with them, and you're an American not
allowing other people to actually cry to have the freedom
that you have. You know, you're in bed with them.
In business, this is the same as the PGA tour
is now with the Southeast and.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
To think and right you mentioned it with the NBA
in China. It's look, this is the price of doing business.
I feel bad for the Tiger Woods turned down. He
didn't get his eight hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And Rory McElroy has been standing up for this tour
and now what I mean there was a golfer at
their tour stop is Canadian Open. One of the Canadian
golfers at a press confor today was as if you
had the PGA tour commissioner in front of you right now,
what would you say to him? And his response was
exactly how many sides of your mouth can you talk
(06:10):
out of? That was his.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Response first of all, and he lost five hundred million dollars.
I was about to say five yeah, I mean, it
was just I have to. I'm like thinking, is that right?
That's so much money out there.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Now, I'm wondering if you, you and I are old
enough to remember the USFL contracts like Steve Young had
to quarterback the La Express, I'm wondering, is that Saudi
money still good? Are those contracts to fruition or what that?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you what happens to that
money that Tiger was supposed to get in, Rory's supposed
to get in.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
All those Nicholson is getting right exactly?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
What's what? Do they still get some of that money
I was hearing, or all of that money?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
That's a good question that what we know is the
Saudi money is good, unlike the USFL money decades ago.
So they've not only cashed into this point. I'm sure
they will continue to cash in, but in that a
new entity is being formed combining all these elements, including
Live Golf. I can't see how they have an exclusive
contract with Live Golf after this year.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
How is the relationship gonna be with the guys that
were on Live goolf compared to the guys that are
that were on the PG And I know it's good
under one unbruga now, but we know where the where
the why did the say of this? Don't we my Fred?
How's it? You know? It's kind of like the scabs
when the NFL took off.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And where baseball strikes?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, stuff like that. How is that going to
be when they all get together, because eventually they're gonna
have to all get together.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You know, they're gonna finalize terms of the agreement, and
part of what they're gonna have to hash out is, Okay,
you denied PGA tour membership to these guys that are left.
How do you bring them back into the fold? And
you can you can give us a long, well written
PR statement like you did today. It's not full of
a lot of details. The deal just came about last night.
(07:58):
The details are It could be months till those are
hashed out. This, what you just talked about, is one
of the things that they have to get down on paper.
Guys that you said you hated have to be welcomed back.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
What was the turning point? You know, because it seemed
like the PGA, I mean, they were in a lawsuit,
so money is being burned. You know, we always say
we kid a round about law and order. You you've
always heard me talk about law and order. If you
ever want to find the bad guys, just follow the money.
It's pretty much true. Any crime and he drop anything
like that. Follow the money. You'll get a good idea
(08:30):
what's going on out there? Follow the money? Is that
what this was all about? Right? And it was done
in secret? Man, can you imagine absolutely being in that meeting.
Tell me you wouldn't like them in a fire and
the wall in that meeting there man.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Apparently four in person meetings plus any video calls and
a deal just last night and the announcement this morning.
So Phil Mickelson late last year, who left for the
Live Golf Tour and the huge riches, suggested, oh, these
two sides, Live Golf and PGA Tour, they need to
come together. The response from the commissioner of the PGA
(09:02):
has always been no, never, it's going to happen right.
Words are important, actions are important. It's impractical when you
look at hey, certain players have sued us the PGA Tour,
their employer, Live have sued us the PGA Tour combining
that's not in the cards, hasn't been in the cards.
It won't be in the cards. I think we've been
pretty consistent on that front end quote and then today, hey,
(09:24):
guess what, we're not only joining together, the Saudi Fund
is going to be the chairman of the board.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Wow. Wow, how does this? You know, what? How does
this go ahead and change the game of golf? It's
still going to be what four days? Right? Or am
I wrong on that?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
That's a good question because you could also have had
the team events, because right they're saying that even though
the PGA can go as far as rules and administrating
its tournaments, the PGA Tour still exists. But if you're
going to combine elements and you say, hey, these people
have been great for the sport and their innovation. These
are part of their innovations that every tournament isn't In
(10:02):
fact for them, none of their tournaments are four days.
The fact that they have team play where you're adding
up scores with groups of guys along with the regular
stroke play you have through the weekend. I think everything's
on the table.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
What about the the money. Is it going to be
more money like there was on the on the Live
tour or no? Is it going to go back to
the way the PGA will.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
If the Saudi government's fund is your chief investors. Gotta
get everything goes up. Yeah, because we've had majors where
guys are winning three million dollars. These are PGA players,
but every live golf week they earn four million dollars
four for three days of golf. And you know, almost
nobody is seeing these tournaments, let's be honest. So yeah,
(10:42):
one good thing that has come from live golf being
involved in the sport is it has pushed the stodgy,
old white rich PGA tour to do a little innovation,
a little changing, a little modernization. And it reminds me
of all this we've heard as football fans about how
the AFL wound up being great for the NFL. We
(11:05):
today are beneficiaries of a better NFL product because the AFL,
with its passing game and excitement in the nineteen sixties
existed and it caused the NFL three yards in a
cloud of dust to adjust, and they merged at the
end of the nineteen sixties, and the game has changed,
goal is changing.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
We had the ABA merged with the NBA.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's right, and four of the teams that we're seeing
these days in the NBA were original ABA teams like
the Denver.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Nuggets and the Spurs, the Nets and Pacers, right, the
four teams still left out there, absolutely Trebia and then
of course the WHL was it the WHA wha with
the NHL correct.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Winnipeg Jets and those teams Edmonton.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Oilers, Fordi, Gordi Hoween those right.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Wayne Gretzky was a WHA player his first year, as
I recall as a teenager with Edmonton they hadn't become
an NHL team.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Now, what about the average golf fan, Now, what does
he thinking about this today? Does he not care?
Speaker 5 (12:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
What cares?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Right? But no?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
But I mean if you're just like kind of like
me were I needed to see Tiger on the leaderboard.
I needed to see Phil on the leaderboard. You had
to give me some drama on the leaderboard and then
maybe I'll tune in the last day or something like that.
So that just the you know, the fringe fan out there,
does it really mean anything to them or they're just
looking to tune in for the product.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well, people tune in for the majors because you have
all the best in one tournament and you're gonna get
back toward that, which we haven't had the last couple
of years because some of the best guys that have
contended in the majors have left the PGA Tour. They'll
be coming back into one new entity with the tours combining,
I assume starting next season. Unfortunately, I have been around
(12:47):
some guys that are deep golf fans far more than I,
and some of them have taken the queue of the
PGA commissioner and have looked down their noses with intense
disdain at Live golf and every one who defected to
live golf. Now what you followed a guy who changed
his tune almost overnight seemingly to take the Saudi money.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
This morning, all right, I got my first insult on Twitter.
If you want to get a hold of me Ad
steaking genius one you seem to well, this is a
little funny, Tony says, Hey, Sneaking Genius is a bigger
sellout than more to hand and the PGA Tour. Should
I hit the like button on that one?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Have to go ahead and give him a like on
that one. That was that was funny? All right. I'll
tell you what. We're gonna come back when we get back.
We got to go ahead and get a little bit
into the job. Moran story. I want to get into
the NBA Finals that is going on.
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He's Steve the Sagaa, Martie Spaniar in for the Guys Night,
Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon. You know,
(14:12):
when I was making the schedule out last week, I said,
you know, I think I think I want to have
the Sega sit it on Tuesday, and I will give
Torres the night off and have Torres work Monday. And
then it worked out, all right.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That's funny. I don't think anyone was listening after that
first half sentence when I was making out the schedule.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It's such a tough job, I gotta tell you, such
a tough job.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
It's odd that you don't put yourself on the air
more having all the power that you do.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I'm a busy guy. Oh like going on happening.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Actually, as I mentioned on Sunday Night Show, the truth
is it might have been a couple of weeks ago
now that somebody from management called me and say, hey,
Mike Harmon's going to be out the Tuesday in mid
close to mid March. You want to fill in with
Jason Smith on that tube? Oh yeah, that's that's good.
And then just a few days ago, another call Steve,
we got something here. Jason's not going to be there
(15:06):
either that night. It's it's Arnie.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Oh, it must have been the happiest day of your life.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Long pause.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, okay, you know that's funny because they called me up,
they said, do you want to fill in with Colin Coward.
I'm like, oh yeah, they go because Colin wants to
do everybody's shift and he's going to come through the
nights with you. I'm like, that's great, that's gonna be awesome.
I can't wait. And then next thing the other they go, oh,
it's not going to be Colin, it's going to be
the Sega. No.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I repeat, it's like going to the used car lot
and getting the bait and switch. But I'm here. We're
all happy.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah you're here. I uh. And by the way, if
you do want to get in, because I got a feeling,
you know, when this whole thing went down last year
on the golf just took one more thing to kind
of wrap this thing up. And I was torn at
the very beginning. But like I said, we have so
many companies over there. We know that the NBA was
in bed with China, so why should this really be
(15:55):
any different. They just played at our heartstrings when they
used nine to eleven. And I hate when people go
ahead and do that to you push their morality.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
And it's not that the Saudis may not have been involved.
I'm not saying that's a whole lie, but you're talking
about their tack to make you agree with them. That
was their reasoning.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And by the way, they said what man Ad said
that the negotiations took about seven weeks. Yeah, I thought
it would have taken like seven minutes.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
It seems like seemed like a quick yes last night.
The thing is is j Monahan, the PGA Tour Commissioner,
had been asked in the past. Okay, you've got two
golf tours. Can they coexist? And his answer was they've
gone down their path. I think we've been pretty consistent
of who we are going forward, what path we're going down.
Oh yeah, until last night, I guess, and the announcement
(16:43):
this morning. And now you're taking all the Saudi investment
money that you decried from the start, and you're merging
when you love.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
We don't know how much was that though, do we?
I love to know how well.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It's a bottomless pit of money in Saudi Arabia's Public
Investment Fund PIF. And I noticed in the press release
that the PGA tour they constantly keep referring to the
entity they're joining with as Pif you don't want to
have the bad word Saudi.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I thought that was like a stock or something like that.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
You don't want to have the truth come out and
people realize who you're getting in bed with. But this
public Investment Fund is more than six hundred billion dollars
in assets. Let's put it in perspective. People thought Steve
Balmer was crazy when he paid two billion dollars for
the Clippers. He had two billion dollars. This is six
hundred billion dollars in assets from Saudi Arabia and it
(17:34):
now will be a corporate sponsor of the tours, including
of course the PGA tour.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
That is absolutely a big number, no, no doubt about that.
You want to get an adstincing genius. One. I want
to talk a little bit about job Morant. You know,
I don't remember how many Sundays ago Plank and I
were working. I believe you were doing the updates, Steve,
and it came down about the whole job Morant in
(18:00):
the video, and I brought up at the time, I
go watch it be a toy gun or something like that,
and then everybody's gonna feel real stupid. Well, now we
find out he's saying it's a toy gun. I don't
even know if I believe him. If you would have
told me about this, you know, like an hour after
we busted you with the video, maybe i'd believe you.
How long has it been now or what?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Peo, this is why you thought up and it took
this long? Okay, just pretend it is. The NBA wants
to sock you with a suspension because of the image
of it all and what you're supporting. And displaying, not
just because of gun safety, they're sighting. Do you understand
there's a pr aspect is here.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I got a problem with that, to be honest with you,
even if it was a real gun. You hear that
they may suspend them for half the season if this
was a toy gun. First of all, if it was
a real gun, I think that's way too long, to
be honest with you. You know, there's guys out there
that use guns for hunting and stuff like that. No,
they don't use handguns. But I mean, what is there
(19:00):
a difference between a rifle and a hand Yes, in
a video? How I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
So if he was joy riding in a car, Yes,
if John.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Murray was holding a rifle joy riding in a car,
that would have been that would have been different.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Uh, yeah, a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
No, I wouldn't have been any different. People would say,
you're still an idiot. They swell that too.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yes, yes, I'm talking about Well, let's go back to
let's be honest of what we're really talking about here.
David Stern, when he was NBA Commissioner, because of the
image he wanted to portray of the NBA right, demanded
that players dressed differently when they came to the arena,
having nothing to do with uniforms they put on or
(19:41):
anything like that because of image. Don't you think this
is somewhat related to that. It's just the guy who
was assistant to David Stern coming up with these rules
and eventually this suspension.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
No, that is true. But then again we're talking about image.
Did you do something against the law to hurt that image?
Or is it completely legal to do what you did?
And maybe you kind of damaged that image, right.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
And then it can be completely legal and still be
a suspension. We've seen that in football, right, they don't
have to wait for the court to pronounce someone to
jail to get an NFL suspension.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
No, but I just thought that forty one games if
it is going to be If it is, Yeah, that
sounds pretty ex quite a bit to me that. I mean,
I don't know if we've I'd have to go back
and look at suspensions for a half a year or longer.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Well, it wasn't Gilbert Arenas fifty with a what loaded
gun and on an NBA property at the arena, So
those two aspects are not involved in this case.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I don't think what job Moranton is as bad as that, right,
I mean, and that was fifty games, this is going
to be forty one. Yeah, again he did if it
is true. Right, If it is true, now he said that,
you know, he already issued an apology on it. So
do you do you think he's just lying about it
being a toy gun? What's gonna be really fed out
(20:59):
if he's long.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
You know, well, it does benefit him to come out
with this statement, true or not. I do go back
to your original point. If this is the truth, and
you're in a position needing to defend yourself yet again
for public actions, wouldn't you have said this earlier if
that was the truth. You have an agent, you had
a spokesman, and certainly you this is how you got
(21:20):
in trouble. You can put yourself on camera. So it's
a let's just say, at minimum suspicious that it's coming out.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
It would have come into the apology. You know. I'm sorry, Yeah,
acting like a fool, But I do want you to
know that that was a toy God, you know, it
would have been something like that, Steve.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, to kind of ease the pressure on him and
put more of the truth out. If that's the truth.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
You know. The cover up is always worse than the crime.
What are I'm serious that that's what they say, right,
The cover up always worse than the crime.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Rick new heusl when he was a college football coach,
he committed a crime in the Washington Athletic Department. And
the lying and the cover up Costumer's job.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I mean lying about this or now again, it didn't
come from jaw. It's from other reports. Sources, Yeah, sources.
So it's not that he is lying about it. Maybe
it's other people coming up with it, which makes you
doubt it. Right.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Oh, absolutely, it's late and it's not from him.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, it's it's too little, too late at this point.
But my goodness, man, I thought he would have come
up with that excuse immediately. It's like maybe they were
listening to my show on podcast and like, hey, this
guy a couple of weeks ago has a great idea.
You'll say it was a toy gun, and maybe he
thought that I was you know, it was a live show.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And then if he actually punched that teenager it was
actually a toy fist. It wasn't actual context with me.
It's taking him a while to think of that. Maybe
that's what's coming next. Sources are saying that with Jah
Moran's other case.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
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Speaker 4 (22:54):
And yes, the big item of the day, the PGA
Tour will merge with Live Golf and Europe's DP Tour
and that ends all of the rivals ongoing litigation. The
PGA is now part of a for profit entity collectively
owned with a Saudi investment. They'll initially be the exclusive
(23:14):
investor in this new organization. Unbelievable announcement today, shocking everyone,
including the stars of the PGA Golf Tour back to you.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Only people more upset than Tiger Woods is all those
lawyers lose it out of all those money.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Oh there was a lot of money to be had there.
Oh she that was already ongoing and what was going
to be continue going? And I think referring to what
you brought up with money earlier, I think the PGA
Tour could see that this just isn't sustainable. They have
so much more money than we do, yes that how
long is this going to go on? It's not going
to bankrupt them. It's not going to do us any good.
(23:55):
How is what's the endgame here? And they merge and
I have to keep using this freight they get in
bed with the saudis the very entity they decry is
now their chief investor. And on top of that, who's
the chairman of the new board of directors the Saudi
who runs the public investment fun Holy ca.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
All right, thanks the saga. We're alive at the tyreck
dot Com studio Steve The saga Arnie Spanier in for
the guys Jason Smith and is best reread by Carbon Yeah.
I can see the attorneys go. I just I already
bought that ski place up in Aspen. I figured they're
going to be around a couple of years. I'm good
at the selad. Oh my goodness. Year.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Well, nobody saw this coming, and I'm sure the attorneys
did not either. I mean, even if they'd had zoom
meetings secretly, these two sides forget it. How could especially
with all the rhetoric coming from the PGA tours. This
is one of the I never saw that coming, you know,
in the last decade of sports. This is on the
list somewhere if I never saw that story coming.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Now, I feel like I'm missing something here. Oh that's right,
we have NBA Finals going on. You ever have you
ever ever seen a day where we've just put the
NBA Finals like like three stories deep. And it's amazing
because we never would have done this if this was
a lak Er Celtics.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
But or Golden State.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Somebody, Oh it's still maybe we're gonna hit golf, but
not like we did today. But that's just amazing. But
it's just like an app. I'm trying. I kept trying
to think when it is the next game? Oh, that's right, tomorrow, right,
gotta get is it tomorrow? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Unlike the previous round, they're not doing it every other night.
It's it's a little more spread out than that. The
last time we had an NBA Finals game Sunday, we
mentioned on last night's show they got over eleven million viewers,
which is less than last year's opener when it was
Golden State Boston and a fort of.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
The ratings Today though they say it's like through the
roof now, I was looking at some of the.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Things that it can't be through the roof if it's less.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
No, they but see they're they're disputing that. I'll pull
it up.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Well, they're adding the fact that they had a manning
cast type on cable that they can see. They think
they can add a half million to pad the number
and say, hey, they were watching the game. That's right. Okay,
technically you're right. They were watching the game. They weren't
my watching Mike Breen call the game. So that's what
we're talking about, right, NBA Finals. Whoever is even the
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streaming numbers. They're watching Mike Breen call the game, That's
what we're talking.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Secu was like, I got here's what says here. NBA
Finals Game one total TV viewership in the last four
finals twenty twenty Lakers Miami seven point sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Which took place in October, by the.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Way right, twenty twenty one, Bucks and Suns eight point
seven million, twenty twenty two Golden State of the Celtics
eleven point nine million, and twenty twenty three Deadver Miami
eleven point five to eight million.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
So those four years when it was Golden State Cleveland
in a row, we were usually averaging twenty million viewers
for the series. Now post COVID. We haven't gotten back
to that level in the NBA or most of sports
I would gather. But okay, it's a Denver versus Miami
Game two that we had over the weekend. And if
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you can get over eleven million viewers with that, good,
that's great. It's down from last year when it was
Celtic's Warriors, and that's a fact.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
It seems like the last game was like a week
and a half ago or something like that. Yeah, God, well,
I have to go back to our point from last night.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
It's Denver had a seven game winning streak broken when
they lost that home game on Sunday. That was seven
games played over the course of four weeks. It was
four Sundays prior. When you had to go back to
their previous loss. They only played seven times in twenty
eight days.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
They had lost it home since the end of March.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I believe that's correct, and they had been undefeated at
home in the postseason at nine and zero. The record
is still ten and oh for a postseason, I mean, and.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
To go ahead and again, yeah, it seem like it
was so far ago. Now we're waiting for Game three.
I don't know. I like some of the air is
sucked out of the room for a series that's tied
it one game a piece, and I gave Dedver winning
this thing four games to nothing.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
I feel you're still on the air. What happened to that?
Did you have some sort of Miami's in the finals
and you're still on the air when I.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Just can't believe it. I can't believe they've made it
this far.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Agree, I mean, aside from your Nickson ninety nine, what
eight seed has made this kind of run?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But I brought this up with Torres yesterday. I still
have made this feel like a feel good story and
like it's a big underdog story and oh my goodness,
like a sixteen seed or a fifteen seed make it
a Final four.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I don't feel like it's that type of underdog you know,
it should on paper beat that type of story. But
you're right, I don't in any way get the impression
nationally that people are dealing with the Miami heat like that.
But this type of run, this would tie those nineteen
seventy eight Washington Bullets as the team that won the
title with the worst regular season record. It is that
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type of run on paper, And by the way, as
far as the schedule, we will get a Wednesday Friday
game this week, so yeah, maybe we can get some
momentum there, especially going into Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
It's tight any game there's no games over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yeah, it's what is going on here? Sunday night's the
biggest night for TV? What is going on here?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I mean that is amazing. I don't think I've ever
seen it there before where there's no games over a weekend.
I mean, that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
It's okay, what are you what is keeping you from
being on Sunday? And don't say travel, because it hasn't
kept you from making really odd schedules in other rounds
or other finals from that matter. For that matter, You've
got the extra day because of travel from Eastern team
to Western site because it's Monday night that the Game
five is going to be in Denver. So were you
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anticipating like a Boston LA and you needed to have
an extra day in there? It's I don't know. If
you want a TV ratings, Sunday night's the night for ratings.
If there's a Game seven, it would be Sunday night.
And that's on purpose.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I can't remember the last time we're in the middle
of a finals and we go through and we don't
hit a weekend. You go, now, we'll pass by on
Saturday at Sunday and go straight to the Monday.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Even when it was bulls, didn't you usually have like
a Wednesday, Friday, Sunday. Wasn't it usually pretty consistent of
what the days of the week it would be, and
especially you would get the big TV Sunday. I mean
even the cable shows that have their finales where they
get the big ratings during their those are Sunday shows.
Sunday is the night for TV top a primetime show,
Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
We'll get more into Game three at the end of
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Speaker 4 (31:33):
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Is this my playlist? No? This my eight track? Yeah?
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Since right next to your best of Brad album?
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Not love Brad? What are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Made it? We're good? I love that.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
In for the guys, Jason Smith is his best friend
Mike Harmon. They get the night off tonight, so good
for them. By the way, if you saw the pictures
and we'll talk to John PALMERO see about this a
lot of smoke down in the New York area because
of the fires up in Canada. You know, I'm only
a half hour from the border, but we got rain
up here, so we don't have it too bad.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I have not seen this, Oh you have not.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
It is horrible. Go to John Paul Morosi's Twitter page
and check it on out. We'll talk to him, but
it is it is bad.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
He is a good follow anyway, just for the record,
and he I.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Mean, it looks like it was like in a rain
that it was like so cloudy and dark. But that's
all smoke. So if you have your phone on you
check it on out. Absolutely crazy and disturbing out there.
And yeah, we're gonna have some fun next hour. I'm
gonna send you over a fun article, so we'll get
to that. Also, you'll have you have a lot of
fun with that. By the way, I'm surprised Lebron didn't
(32:48):
try to take the headlines, say from the golf by
going I'm really really thinking about retiring, you know, I
really want to do something like that. People are mad
that Kyrie and Lebron are trying to take the finals
off the back page, you know what I mean, Or
maybe just Kyrie, Well, Lebron did the whole I'm retiring.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Thing, you know, yeah, that's right. The team that actually
made the NBA Finals for the first time in its
history wasn't necessarily the thing that was talked about the
next morning after they swept Lebron's team.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
By the way, do you think the finals are picking
up a little steed now that it's one to one
and people are seeing that Miami's not going away or no,
not really.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
No, not to the degree that last year's matchup would be.
Or and this is probably not fair, then if it
would have been Lebron against a story team like Boston,
or Lebron against Steph as we had for a few years.
And I've lived in markets that would take offense immediately,
like Denver properly would like, why aren't we getting attention?
We're in the finals for crying out loud. But I
(33:47):
at least understand well what we're talking about. With ratings,
the country in general goes to the hits, you know,
the big thing, Lade, the hits. When Tiger Woods is golfing,
golf ratings are bigger. It's it's not fair to the
other golfers who are frankly better golfers than he is
these days. But that's just the fact of the audience.
It's not media, it's the audience.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I think when you know, with the NBA Finals, if
you don't have a blue blood in there, people I
think kind of lose interest. Even though we're at one
game a piece. Could you imagine if Denver was up
two games to nothing at this point, Yeah, we'd really
to not to gain.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
It'd be disappearing, yes, because then it would be like, oh, good,
the Nets are in the finals for the first time.
Oh it's going to be three games to none tomorrow,
that type of thing. Right, It's not like the Nets
didn't have talent and congratulations about twenty years ago they
finally made a final. I will say it's not a
direct correlation because Denver earned the number one seed in
(34:45):
the Western Conference and so they're in the NBA Finals
quite deservedly, and they have one of the great players
on the planet. It's unfortunate that they're matched up with
an eight seed and a team that, let's be honest,
doesn't quite have the cachet of others star laden teams.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
You know, one thing that's bothered me about the finals
is this whole flopping thing. And I'm not talking about
flopping you know, like you knows in general. Yeah, I'm
talking about like you know, when you you have the
ball and you're jerking your head back. You know what
I'm talking about when you're like, oh, you run screen
and yeah, oh you touched me. Now my head's gonna
beat decapitated and I'm gonna I'm gonna die and oh
(35:24):
you know, and if you don't call a foul, I'm
getting a little sick. And Tyle Lowry, I mean that guy.
You can't even breathe on that guy without him falling down.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
You know what I'm saying, Is this the way you
play in your little city public league.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
No, I never get the ball. I harddly get into
the game there.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
No, that's what I'm talking about. You just run across
the lane and you get a screen or you know,
someone hit the ground.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, exactly, except I'm hitting the ground because I'm too old.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's your contribution to the tea. That's a turnover. Yes, sir, they.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Didn't get the flopping though, is just it's getting it's
getting out of hand.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
It's not good for the sport.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
No, it's horrible. That's why they came up with the
original room. But it was named after Vladdy Devons remember him.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
To flop divas he was. He was a king of
that right, that's right, because people thought he was one
of the early stars that came over from Europe and
therefore he had grown up watching World soccer all the time,
and they were less stringent on flopping in soccer back then,
and even less so in the NBA back then. So yeah,
it happened a lot. Derek Fisher against Vladdy quite often
(36:25):
would be flopping. Finally they got the what was it
initial five thousand dollars fine in the NBA for flopping.
That'll teach him, yea, they make five million dollars, but
that five thousand is going to kill him. That's that's
gonna make him think twice.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
By the way, are the reps doing a crappy job
because it seems like they If I get the next
person that complains about a call and we have to
look at it and you were wrong and you're just
trying to dupe us, that's right, you should get like
two technical fouls against you. I mean, I hate you know,
like ten people five point in one way five point
the other way when the ball goes out of bout.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Start the next game with free throws depending on what
we saw in the video from the previous game.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Who was kidding so sick a time? I look, I
love Jokic, but that guy cries every time he doesn't
get a call.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
You know that, though, you can tell that we're to
the pressure point. We're in the finals. As mentioned, this
is a franchise that hasn't been there. This is a
group with Miami right that has This is not Dwyane
Wade's Miami Heat that's been in the finals all time.
So I can understand the pressure part of it as
a fan. Can we just knock it down a notch
here and just play basketball? There is good basketball to
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be had.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I don't think I've picked Miami to win one game
this entire playoffs.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
That I've believed one game since mid April. Yeah, well,
let's be honest. They were anything to watch. By the
time they started April. The Miami Heat record was forty
and thirty seven. And then they lost their play in
opener in April to Atlanta. That's a game that the
NBA itself does not even consider a postseason game. They
were almost out before the postseason began, and they wind
(37:56):
up in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
What was it like, three minutes left in the game
and they were losing or something like that.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
To come back and beat Chicago to stay alive exactly.
This is the Heats record against the East in the
regular season was twenty four and twenty eight. The only
playoff team with a losing recording conference in the East,
and they wind up winning the East.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
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and some NHL to get in there. We're gonna have
some fun. I'm not gonna tip it off yet. I'll
surprise the SEGA and a little bit more on what's
going on with the PGA and the Lift Tours. So
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You're in you guys coming, Arnie. I was very happy
to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
For the guys. Jason Smith is his best friend. Mike
Carbon How you doing tonight to saying doing well?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
I thought there wasn't gonna be much in the way
of news. My goodness is their news tonight, just because
there's no Stanley Cup, no NBA Finals game, tonight. We're good.
We got something I know?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Is that crazy? I never thought that golf would not
only lead the headline, but over the NBA finals. I mean, geez,
could you imagine if like the Lakers were playing, We're
leading with golf and stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Well, this is proof of how huge a story this is.
This happened sometimes in sports where the story is bigger
than the sport. It's kind of like when Michael Phelps
really started to dominate the Olympics. It was a story
that was bigger than that sport. It didn't matter if
you watch the Olympics or certainly if you want swimming.
It just hit the headlines and deserved to this. Yikes,
(01:51):
what went on this morning? A shocker and mostly a
shocker to the stars of the PGA tour.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Oh say that again. I'll tell you what. You don't
have it Twitter account, do you, or at least you
won't give it to us. If you do so, you
better follow my Twitter accountans. I want to get a
lot of tweets today from the people to go ahead,
and you know what they feel about this. You can
get a hold of me a's thinking genius one. So
hopefully we'll get a lot of those just start well,
first of all, it started this morning, right, what time
(02:18):
was it around this morning?
Speaker 4 (02:19):
It's like nine CNBC something like that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, of course, if you don't know, if you're on
the Rock PGA Tour of Golf, they unite, they're gonna
come under one umbrella. What the DP World Tour, It's
gonna be one kumbai ya thing. When you first tarted,
I'm gonna ask you first, when you first heard what happened,
what was your emotional What was the first thing that
went through your mind? How did you feel?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Absolutely stunned? And very quickly I thought, you know, once
we get to December, this will still be one of
the biggest stories of the entire sports year. It's just
and especially something off the field. If you made a
separate list for the off the field sports stories of
twenty twenty three, this is going to be way up there.
It's huge.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I saw it this morning, and first I thought it
was a you know, one of those parody accounts, and
then maybe I'm like, oh, you got it right? Why hey?
And I didn't click on it right away. I didn't
want to go and like it and then do the
reach twheet and then you know, plag call bickup. What
are you doing? That's something that's like weird now Yankevich's encounters,
you know, just some bologna. And then I look like
(03:21):
a knucklehead because you know, it's it's it's kind of early.
We're up late last night, you know, we're doing the show.
So I'm like, nah, let me let me just think
about this for a second. Let me see because if
this is true, there's gonna be more than one person
reporting on it. That was my first thought. I that's fair. Yeah,
I assume they're gonna be coming in by the dozens
(03:43):
if this turns out to be true. So I waited
about sixty seconds and they just started to roll on in.
Oh boy, were they coming on it. And it didn't
take long for the anger to get on it. I
gotta tell you, if I'm Jay Mooringhan, the president of
the PGA, I actually feel bad for him. Yes, he's
a hip I had you feel bad for him just
(04:04):
on a personal note, you know what I mean? Can
you imagine what he's going through now? I would have
loved to have been a fly on the wall when
he was getting this deal done. Would you not have huh.
Would would you not have liked to have been to
and hear what was going on there? He is just
he is like public enemy number one right now. I
gotta tell you, I just want to go back to
a year ago to Sega when they first said this.
(04:27):
I'm a lot like our listeners, you know what I mean.
I'm not a professional athlete doing the show. You know,
I'm not a you know, one of those TV guys
doing the show or one of those journalists. I'm a
lot like our listeners out there. So last year when
this was going on and they started pulling it in
our heartstrings saying okay, you know nine to eleven and
the victims of nine eleven, it got to me for
(04:50):
a while. I'm like, wow, you know this is this
is really tough. How you supposed to support both tours?
You know when they fill that at you. But then
you go back and you start they could look at
all the stuff that we use every day, and we're
hypocrites also, And I you know, I heard Chris Bussard
reading all the companies American companies, Yeah, oh, American companies
(05:10):
that do business over there. It is I mean a
list like as long as my arm.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
It's like the hypocrisy we heard when Lebron James was
talking about people marching for freedom against communists China. It's like, Okay,
you're in bed with them, and you're an American not
allowing other people to actually cry to have the freedom
that you have. You know, you're in bed with them.
In business, this is the same as the PGA tour
is now with the Southeast and.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
To think and right you mentioned it with the NBA
in China. It's look, this is the price of doing business.
I feel bad for the Tiger Woods turned down. He
didn't get his eight hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And Rory McElroy has been standing up for this tour
and now what I mean there was a golfer at
their tour stop is Canadian Open. One of the Canadian
golfers at a press confor today was as if you
had the PGA tour commissioner in front of you right now,
what would you say to him? And his response was
exactly how many sides of your mouth can you talk
(06:10):
out of? That was his.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Response first of all, and he lost five hundred million dollars.
I was about to say five yeah, I mean, it
was just I have to. I'm like thinking, is that right?
That's so much money out there.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Now, I'm wondering if you, you and I are old
enough to remember the USFL contracts like Steve Young had
to quarterback the La Express, I'm wondering, is that Saudi
money still good? Are those contracts to fruition or what that?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, I was gonna ask you what happens to that
money that Tiger was supposed to get in, Rory's supposed
to get in.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
All those Nicholson is getting right exactly?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
What's what? Do they still get some of that money
I was hearing, or all of that money?
Speaker 4 (06:50):
That's a good question that what we know is the
Saudi money is good, unlike the USFL money decades ago.
So they've not only cashed into this point. I'm sure
they will continue to cash in, but in that a
new entity is being formed combining all these elements, including
Live Golf. I can't see how they have an exclusive
contract with Live Golf after this year.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
How is the relationship gonna be with the guys that
were on Live goolf compared to the guys that are
that were on the PG And I know it's good
under one unbruga now, but we know where the where
the why did the say of this? Don't we my Fred?
How's it? You know? It's kind of like the scabs
when the NFL took off.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
And where baseball strikes?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, stuff like that. How is that going to
be when they all get together, because eventually they're gonna
have to all get together.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
You know, they're gonna finalize terms of the agreement, and
part of what they're gonna have to hash out is, Okay,
you denied PGA tour membership to these guys that are left.
How do you bring them back into the fold? And
you can you can give us a long, well written
PR statement like you did today. It's not full of
a lot of details. The deal just came about last night.
(07:58):
The details are It could be months till those are
hashed out. This, what you just talked about, is one
of the things that they have to get down on paper.
Guys that you said you hated have to be welcomed back.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
What was the turning point? You know, because it seemed
like the PGA, I mean, they were in a lawsuit,
so money is being burned. You know, we always say
we kid a round about law and order. You you've
always heard me talk about law and order. If you
ever want to find the bad guys, just follow the money.
It's pretty much true. Any crime and he drop anything
like that. Follow the money. You'll get a good idea
(08:30):
what's going on out there? Follow the money? Is that
what this was all about? Right? And it was done
in secret? Man, can you imagine absolutely being in that meeting.
Tell me you wouldn't like them in a fire and
the wall in that meeting there man.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Apparently four in person meetings plus any video calls and
a deal just last night and the announcement this morning.
So Phil Mickelson late last year, who left for the
Live Golf Tour and the huge riches, suggested, oh, these
two sides, Live Golf and PGA Tour, they need to
come together. The response from the commissioner of the PGA
(09:02):
has always been no, never, it's going to happen right.
Words are important, actions are important. It's impractical when you
look at hey, certain players have sued us the PGA Tour,
their employer, Live have sued us the PGA Tour combining
that's not in the cards, hasn't been in the cards.
It won't be in the cards. I think we've been
pretty consistent on that front end quote and then today, hey,
(09:24):
guess what, we're not only joining together, the Saudi Fund
is going to be the chairman of the board.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Wow. Wow, how does this? You know, what? How does
this go ahead and change the game of golf? It's
still going to be what four days? Right? Or am
I wrong on that?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
That's a good question because you could also have had
the team events, because right they're saying that even though
the PGA can go as far as rules and administrating
its tournaments, the PGA Tour still exists. But if you're
going to combine elements and you say, hey, these people
have been great for the sport and their innovation. These
are part of their innovations that every tournament isn't In
(10:02):
fact for them, none of their tournaments are four days.
The fact that they have team play where you're adding
up scores with groups of guys along with the regular
stroke play you have through the weekend. I think everything's
on the table.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
What about the the money. Is it going to be
more money like there was on the on the Live
tour or no? Is it going to go back to
the way the PGA will.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
If the Saudi government's fund is your chief investors. Gotta
get everything goes up. Yeah, because we've had majors where
guys are winning three million dollars. These are PGA players,
but every live golf week they earn four million dollars
four for three days of golf. And you know, almost
nobody is seeing these tournaments, let's be honest. So yeah,
(10:42):
one good thing that has come from live golf being
involved in the sport is it has pushed the stodgy,
old white rich PGA tour to do a little innovation,
a little changing, a little modernization. And it reminds me
of all this we've heard as football fans about how
the AFL wound up being great for the NFL. We
(11:05):
today are beneficiaries of a better NFL product because the AFL,
with its passing game and excitement in the nineteen sixties
existed and it caused the NFL three yards in a
cloud of dust to adjust, and they merged at the
end of the nineteen sixties, and the game has changed,
goal is changing.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
We had the ABA merged with the NBA.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's right, and four of the teams that we're seeing
these days in the NBA were original ABA teams like
the Denver.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Nuggets and the Spurs, the Nets and Pacers, right, the
four teams still left out there, absolutely Trebia and then
of course the WHL was it the WHA wha with
the NHL correct.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Winnipeg Jets and those teams Edmonton.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Oilers, Fordi, Gordi Hoween those right.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Wayne Gretzky was a WHA player his first year, as
I recall as a teenager with Edmonton they hadn't become
an NHL team.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Now, what about the average golf fan, Now, what does
he thinking about this today? Does he not care?
Speaker 5 (12:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
What cares?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Right? But no?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
But I mean if you're just like kind of like
me were I needed to see Tiger on the leaderboard.
I needed to see Phil on the leaderboard. You had
to give me some drama on the leaderboard and then
maybe I'll tune in the last day or something like that.
So that just the you know, the fringe fan out there,
does it really mean anything to them or they're just
looking to tune in for the product.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Well, people tune in for the majors because you have
all the best in one tournament and you're gonna get
back toward that, which we haven't had the last couple
of years because some of the best guys that have
contended in the majors have left the PGA Tour. They'll
be coming back into one new entity with the tours combining,
I assume starting next season. Unfortunately, I have been around
(12:47):
some guys that are deep golf fans far more than I,
and some of them have taken the queue of the
PGA commissioner and have looked down their noses with intense
disdain at Live golf and every one who defected to
live golf. Now what you followed a guy who changed
his tune almost overnight seemingly to take the Saudi money.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
This morning, all right, I got my first insult on Twitter.
If you want to get a hold of me Ad
steaking genius one you seem to well, this is a
little funny, Tony says, Hey, Sneaking Genius is a bigger
sellout than more to hand and the PGA Tour. Should
I hit the like button on that one?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Absolutely all right.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Have to go ahead and give him a like on
that one. That was that was funny? All right. I'll
tell you what. We're gonna come back when we get back.
We got to go ahead and get a little bit
into the job. Moran story. I want to get into
the NBA Finals that is going on.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
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Speaker 3 (13:51):
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He's Steve the Sagaa, Martie Spaniar in for the Guys Night,
Jason Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon. You know,
(14:12):
when I was making the schedule out last week, I said,
you know, I think I think I want to have
the Sega sit it on Tuesday, and I will give
Torres the night off and have Torres work Monday. And
then it worked out, all right.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That's funny. I don't think anyone was listening after that
first half sentence when I was making out the schedule.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It's such a tough job, I gotta tell you, such
a tough job.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
It's odd that you don't put yourself on the air
more having all the power that you do.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I'm a busy guy. Oh like going on happening.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Actually, as I mentioned on Sunday Night Show, the truth
is it might have been a couple of weeks ago
now that somebody from management called me and say, hey,
Mike Harmon's going to be out the Tuesday in mid
close to mid March. You want to fill in with
Jason Smith on that tube? Oh yeah, that's that's good.
And then just a few days ago, another call Steve,
we got something here. Jason's not going to be there
(15:06):
either that night. It's it's Arnie.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Oh, it must have been the happiest day of your life.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Long pause.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Yeah, okay, you know that's funny because they called me up,
they said, do you want to fill in with Colin Coward.
I'm like, oh yeah, they go because Colin wants to
do everybody's shift and he's going to come through the
nights with you. I'm like, that's great, that's gonna be awesome.
I can't wait. And then next thing the other they go, oh,
it's not going to be Colin, it's going to be
the Sega. No.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I repeat, it's like going to the used car lot
and getting the bait and switch. But I'm here. We're
all happy.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah you're here. I uh. And by the way, if
you do want to get in, because I got a feeling,
you know, when this whole thing went down last year
on the golf just took one more thing to kind
of wrap this thing up. And I was torn at
the very beginning. But like I said, we have so
many companies over there. We know that the NBA was
in bed with China, so why should this really be
(15:55):
any different. They just played at our heartstrings when they
used nine to eleven. And I hate when people go
ahead and do that to you push their morality.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
And it's not that the Saudis may not have been involved.
I'm not saying that's a whole lie, but you're talking
about their tack to make you agree with them. That
was their reasoning.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
And by the way, they said what man Ad said
that the negotiations took about seven weeks. Yeah, I thought
it would have taken like seven minutes.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
It seems like seemed like a quick yes last night.
The thing is is j Monahan, the PGA Tour Commissioner,
had been asked in the past. Okay, you've got two
golf tours. Can they coexist? And his answer was they've
gone down their path. I think we've been pretty consistent
of who we are going forward, what path we're going down.
Oh yeah, until last night, I guess, and the announcement
(16:43):
this morning. And now you're taking all the Saudi investment
money that you decried from the start, and you're merging
when you love.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
We don't know how much was that though, do we?
I love to know how well.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It's a bottomless pit of money in Saudi Arabia's Public
Investment Fund PIF. And I noticed in the press release
that the PGA tour they constantly keep referring to the
entity they're joining with as Pif you don't want to
have the bad word Saudi.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
I thought that was like a stock or something like that.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
You don't want to have the truth come out and
people realize who you're getting in bed with. But this
public Investment Fund is more than six hundred billion dollars
in assets. Let's put it in perspective. People thought Steve
Balmer was crazy when he paid two billion dollars for
the Clippers. He had two billion dollars. This is six
hundred billion dollars in assets from Saudi Arabia and it
(17:34):
now will be a corporate sponsor of the tours, including
of course the PGA tour.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
That is absolutely a big number, no, no doubt about that.
You want to get an adstincing genius. One. I want
to talk a little bit about job Morant. You know,
I don't remember how many Sundays ago Plank and I
were working. I believe you were doing the updates, Steve,
and it came down about the whole job Morant in
(18:00):
the video, and I brought up at the time, I
go watch it be a toy gun or something like that,
and then everybody's gonna feel real stupid. Well, now we
find out he's saying it's a toy gun. I don't
even know if I believe him. If you would have
told me about this, you know, like an hour after
we busted you with the video, maybe i'd believe you.
How long has it been now or what?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Peo, this is why you thought up and it took
this long? Okay, just pretend it is. The NBA wants
to sock you with a suspension because of the image
of it all and what you're supporting. And displaying, not
just because of gun safety, they're sighting. Do you understand
there's a pr aspect is here.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I got a problem with that, to be honest with you,
even if it was a real gun. You hear that
they may suspend them for half the season if this
was a toy gun. First of all, if it was
a real gun, I think that's way too long, to
be honest with you. You know, there's guys out there
that use guns for hunting and stuff like that. No,
they don't use handguns. But I mean, what is there
(19:00):
a difference between a rifle and a hand Yes, in
a video? How I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
So if he was joy riding in a car, Yes,
if John.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Murray was holding a rifle joy riding in a car,
that would have been that would have been different.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Uh, yeah, a little bit different.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
No, I wouldn't have been any different. People would say,
you're still an idiot. They swell that too.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Yes, yes, I'm talking about Well, let's go back to
let's be honest of what we're really talking about here.
David Stern, when he was NBA Commissioner, because of the
image he wanted to portray of the NBA right, demanded
that players dressed differently when they came to the arena,
having nothing to do with uniforms they put on or
(19:41):
anything like that because of image. Don't you think this
is somewhat related to that. It's just the guy who
was assistant to David Stern coming up with these rules
and eventually this suspension.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
No, that is true. But then again we're talking about image.
Did you do something against the law to hurt that image?
Or is it completely legal to do what you did?
And maybe you kind of damaged that image, right.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
And then it can be completely legal and still be
a suspension. We've seen that in football, right, they don't
have to wait for the court to pronounce someone to
jail to get an NFL suspension.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
No, but I just thought that forty one games if
it is going to be If it is, Yeah, that
sounds pretty ex quite a bit to me that. I mean,
I don't know if we've I'd have to go back
and look at suspensions for a half a year or longer.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Well, it wasn't Gilbert Arenas fifty with a what loaded
gun and on an NBA property at the arena, So
those two aspects are not involved in this case.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I don't think what job Moranton is as bad as that, right,
I mean, and that was fifty games, this is going
to be forty one. Yeah, again he did if it
is true. Right, If it is true, now he said that,
you know, he already issued an apology on it. So
do you do you think he's just lying about it
being a toy gun? What's gonna be really fed out
(20:59):
if he's long.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
You know, well, it does benefit him to come out
with this statement, true or not. I do go back
to your original point. If this is the truth, and
you're in a position needing to defend yourself yet again
for public actions, wouldn't you have said this earlier if
that was the truth. You have an agent, you had
a spokesman, and certainly you this is how you got
(21:20):
in trouble. You can put yourself on camera. So it's
a let's just say, at minimum suspicious that it's coming out.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
It would have come into the apology. You know. I'm sorry, Yeah,
acting like a fool, But I do want you to
know that that was a toy God, you know, it
would have been something like that, Steve.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, to kind of ease the pressure on him and
put more of the truth out. If that's the truth.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
You know. The cover up is always worse than the crime.
What are I'm serious that that's what they say, right,
The cover up always worse than the crime.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Rick new heusl when he was a college football coach,
he committed a crime in the Washington Athletic Department. And
the lying and the cover up Costumer's job.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I mean lying about this or now again, it didn't
come from jaw. It's from other reports. Sources, Yeah, sources.
So it's not that he is lying about it. Maybe
it's other people coming up with it, which makes you
doubt it. Right.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Oh, absolutely, it's late and it's not from him.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, it's it's too little, too late at this point.
But my goodness, man, I thought he would have come
up with that excuse immediately. It's like maybe they were
listening to my show on podcast and like, hey, this
guy a couple of weeks ago has a great idea.
You'll say it was a toy gun, and maybe he
thought that I was you know, it was a live show.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
And then if he actually punched that teenager it was
actually a toy fist. It wasn't actual context with me.
It's taking him a while to think of that. Maybe
that's what's coming next. Sources are saying that with Jah
Moran's other case.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
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Speaker 4 (22:54):
And yes, the big item of the day, the PGA
Tour will merge with Live Golf and Europe's DP Tour
and that ends all of the rivals ongoing litigation. The
PGA is now part of a for profit entity collectively
owned with a Saudi investment. They'll initially be the exclusive
(23:14):
investor in this new organization. Unbelievable announcement today, shocking everyone,
including the stars of the PGA Golf Tour back to you.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Only people more upset than Tiger Woods is all those
lawyers lose it out of all those money.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Oh there was a lot of money to be had there.
Oh she that was already ongoing and what was going
to be continue going? And I think referring to what
you brought up with money earlier, I think the PGA
Tour could see that this just isn't sustainable. They have
so much more money than we do, yes that how
long is this going to go on? It's not going
to bankrupt them. It's not going to do us any good.
(23:55):
How is what's the endgame here? And they merge and
I have to keep using this freight they get in
bed with the saudis the very entity they decry is
now their chief investor. And on top of that, who's
the chairman of the new board of directors the Saudi
who runs the public investment fun Holy ca.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
All right, thanks the saga. We're alive at the tyreck
dot Com studio Steve The saga Arnie Spanier in for
the guys Jason Smith and is best reread by Carbon Yeah.
I can see the attorneys go. I just I already
bought that ski place up in Aspen. I figured they're
going to be around a couple of years. I'm good
at the selad. Oh my goodness. Year.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Well, nobody saw this coming, and I'm sure the attorneys
did not either. I mean, even if they'd had zoom
meetings secretly, these two sides forget it. How could especially
with all the rhetoric coming from the PGA tours. This
is one of the I never saw that coming, you know,
in the last decade of sports. This is on the
list somewhere if I never saw that story coming.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Now, I feel like I'm missing something here. Oh that's right,
we have NBA Finals going on. You ever have you
ever ever seen a day where we've just put the
NBA Finals like like three stories deep. And it's amazing
because we never would have done this if this was
a lak Er Celtics.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
But or Golden State.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Somebody, Oh it's still maybe we're gonna hit golf, but
not like we did today. But that's just amazing. But
it's just like an app. I'm trying. I kept trying
to think when it is the next game? Oh, that's right, tomorrow, right,
gotta get is it tomorrow? Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Unlike the previous round, they're not doing it every other night.
It's it's a little more spread out than that. The
last time we had an NBA Finals game Sunday, we
mentioned on last night's show they got over eleven million viewers,
which is less than last year's opener when it was
Golden State Boston and a fort of.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
The ratings Today though they say it's like through the
roof now, I was looking at some of the.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Things that it can't be through the roof if it's less.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
No, they but see they're they're disputing that. I'll pull
it up.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
Well, they're adding the fact that they had a manning
cast type on cable that they can see. They think
they can add a half million to pad the number
and say, hey, they were watching the game. That's right. Okay,
technically you're right. They were watching the game. They weren't
my watching Mike Breen call the game. So that's what
we're talking about, right, NBA Finals. Whoever is even the
(26:15):
streaming numbers. They're watching Mike Breen call the game, That's
what we're talking.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Secu was like, I got here's what says here. NBA
Finals Game one total TV viewership in the last four
finals twenty twenty Lakers Miami seven point sixty nine.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Which took place in October, by the.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Way right, twenty twenty one, Bucks and Suns eight point
seven million, twenty twenty two Golden State of the Celtics
eleven point nine million, and twenty twenty three Deadver Miami
eleven point five to eight million.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
So those four years when it was Golden State Cleveland
in a row, we were usually averaging twenty million viewers
for the series. Now post COVID. We haven't gotten back
to that level in the NBA or most of sports
I would gather. But okay, it's a Denver versus Miami
Game two that we had over the weekend. And if
(27:09):
you can get over eleven million viewers with that, good,
that's great. It's down from last year when it was
Celtic's Warriors, and that's a fact.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
It seems like the last game was like a week
and a half ago or something like that. Yeah, God, well,
I have to go back to our point from last night.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
It's Denver had a seven game winning streak broken when
they lost that home game on Sunday. That was seven
games played over the course of four weeks. It was
four Sundays prior. When you had to go back to
their previous loss. They only played seven times in twenty
eight days.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
They had lost it home since the end of March.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I believe that's correct, and they had been undefeated at
home in the postseason at nine and zero. The record
is still ten and oh for a postseason, I mean, and.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
To go ahead and again, yeah, it seem like it
was so far ago. Now we're waiting for Game three.
I don't know. I like some of the air is
sucked out of the room for a series that's tied
it one game a piece, and I gave Dedver winning
this thing four games to nothing.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
I feel you're still on the air. What happened to that?
Did you have some sort of Miami's in the finals
and you're still on the air when I.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Just can't believe it. I can't believe they've made it
this far.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Agree, I mean, aside from your Nickson ninety nine, what
eight seed has made this kind of run?
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But I brought this up with Torres yesterday. I still
have made this feel like a feel good story and
like it's a big underdog story and oh my goodness,
like a sixteen seed or a fifteen seed make it
a Final four.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I don't feel like it's that type of underdog you know,
it should on paper beat that type of story. But
you're right, I don't in any way get the impression
nationally that people are dealing with the Miami heat like that.
But this type of run, this would tie those nineteen
seventy eight Washington Bullets as the team that won the
title with the worst regular season record. It is that
(28:56):
type of run on paper, And by the way, as
far as the schedule, we will get a Wednesday Friday
game this week, so yeah, maybe we can get some
momentum there, especially going into Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
It's tight any game there's no games over the weekend.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yeah, it's what is going on here? Sunday night's the
biggest night for TV? What is going on here?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
I mean that is amazing. I don't think I've ever
seen it there before where there's no games over a weekend.
I mean, that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
It's okay, what are you what is keeping you from
being on Sunday? And don't say travel, because it hasn't
kept you from making really odd schedules in other rounds
or other finals from that matter. For that matter, You've
got the extra day because of travel from Eastern team
to Western site because it's Monday night that the Game
five is going to be in Denver. So were you
(29:42):
anticipating like a Boston LA and you needed to have
an extra day in there? It's I don't know. If
you want a TV ratings, Sunday night's the night for ratings.
If there's a Game seven, it would be Sunday night.
And that's on purpose.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
I can't remember the last time we're in the middle
of a finals and we go through and we don't
hit a weekend. You go, now, we'll pass by on
Saturday at Sunday and go straight to the Monday.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Even when it was bulls, didn't you usually have like
a Wednesday, Friday, Sunday. Wasn't it usually pretty consistent of
what the days of the week it would be, and
especially you would get the big TV Sunday. I mean
even the cable shows that have their finales where they
get the big ratings during their those are Sunday shows.
Sunday is the night for TV top a primetime show,
Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
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Speaker 4 (31:33):
Using your playlist again coming back from breaks?
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Is this my playlist? No? This my eight track? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Since right next to your best of Brad album?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:45):
Oh I love Brad?
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Not love Brad? What are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Made it? We're good? I love that.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
In for the guys, Jason Smith is his best friend
Mike Harmon. They get the night off tonight, so good
for them. By the way, if you saw the pictures
and we'll talk to John PALMERO see about this a
lot of smoke down in the New York area because
of the fires up in Canada. You know, I'm only
a half hour from the border, but we got rain
up here, so we don't have it too bad.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
I have not seen this, Oh you have not.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
It is horrible. Go to John Paul Morosi's Twitter page
and check it on out. We'll talk to him, but
it is it is bad.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
He is a good follow anyway, just for the record,
and he I.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Mean, it looks like it was like in a rain
that it was like so cloudy and dark. But that's
all smoke. So if you have your phone on you
check it on out. Absolutely crazy and disturbing out there.
And yeah, we're gonna have some fun next hour. I'm
gonna send you over a fun article, so we'll get
to that. Also, you'll have you have a lot of
fun with that. By the way, I'm surprised Lebron didn't
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try to take the headlines, say from the golf by
going I'm really really thinking about retiring, you know, I
really want to do something like that. People are mad
that Kyrie and Lebron are trying to take the finals
off the back page, you know what I mean, Or
maybe just Kyrie, Well, Lebron did the whole I'm retiring.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Thing, you know, yeah, that's right. The team that actually
made the NBA Finals for the first time in its
history wasn't necessarily the thing that was talked about the
next morning after they swept Lebron's team.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
By the way, do you think the finals are picking
up a little steed now that it's one to one
and people are seeing that Miami's not going away or no,
not really.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
No, not to the degree that last year's matchup would be.
Or and this is probably not fair, then if it
would have been Lebron against a story team like Boston,
or Lebron against Steph as we had for a few years.
And I've lived in markets that would take offense immediately,
like Denver properly would like, why aren't we getting attention?
We're in the finals for crying out loud. But I
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at least understand well what we're talking about. With ratings,
the country in general goes to the hits, you know,
the big thing, Lade, the hits. When Tiger Woods is golfing,
golf ratings are bigger. It's it's not fair to the
other golfers who are frankly better golfers than he is
these days. But that's just the fact of the audience.
It's not media, it's the audience.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
I think when you know, with the NBA Finals, if
you don't have a blue blood in there, people I
think kind of lose interest. Even though we're at one
game a piece. Could you imagine if Denver was up
two games to nothing at this point, Yeah, we'd really
to not to gain.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
It'd be disappearing, yes, because then it would be like, oh, good,
the Nets are in the finals for the first time.
Oh it's going to be three games to none tomorrow,
that type of thing. Right, It's not like the Nets
didn't have talent and congratulations about twenty years ago they
finally made a final. I will say it's not a
direct correlation because Denver earned the number one seed in
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the Western Conference and so they're in the NBA Finals
quite deservedly, and they have one of the great players
on the planet. It's unfortunate that they're matched up with
an eight seed and a team that, let's be honest,
doesn't quite have the cachet of others star laden teams.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
You know, one thing that's bothered me about the finals
is this whole flopping thing. And I'm not talking about
flopping you know, like you knows in general. Yeah, I'm
talking about like you know, when you you have the
ball and you're jerking your head back. You know what
I'm talking about when you're like, oh, you run screen
and yeah, oh you touched me. Now my head's gonna
beat decapitated and I'm gonna I'm gonna die and oh
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you know, and if you don't call a foul, I'm
getting a little sick. And Tyle Lowry, I mean that guy.
You can't even breathe on that guy without him falling down.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
You know what I'm saying, Is this the way you
play in your little city public league.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
No, I never get the ball. I harddly get into
the game there.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
No, that's what I'm talking about. You just run across
the lane and you get a screen or you know,
someone hit the ground.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Yeah, exactly, except I'm hitting the ground because I'm too old.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's your contribution to the tea. That's a turnover. Yes, sir, they.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
Didn't get the flopping though, is just it's getting it's
getting out of hand.
Speaker 4 (35:58):
It's not good for the sport.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
No, it's horrible. That's why they came up with the
original room. But it was named after Vladdy Devons remember him.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
To flop divas he was. He was a king of
that right, that's right, because people thought he was one
of the early stars that came over from Europe and
therefore he had grown up watching World soccer all the time,
and they were less stringent on flopping in soccer back then,
and even less so in the NBA back then. So yeah,
it happened a lot. Derek Fisher against Vladdy quite often
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would be flopping. Finally they got the what was it
initial five thousand dollars fine in the NBA for flopping.
That'll teach him, yea, they make five million dollars, but
that five thousand is going to kill him. That's that's
gonna make him think twice.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
By the way, are the reps doing a crappy job
because it seems like they If I get the next
person that complains about a call and we have to
look at it and you were wrong and you're just
trying to dupe us, that's right, you should get like
two technical fouls against you. I mean, I hate you know,
like ten people five point in one way five point
the other way when the ball goes out of bout.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Start the next game with free throws depending on what
we saw in the video from the previous game.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Who was kidding so sick a time? I look, I
love Jokic, but that guy cries every time he doesn't
get a call.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
You know that, though, you can tell that we're to
the pressure point. We're in the finals. As mentioned, this
is a franchise that hasn't been there. This is a
group with Miami right that has This is not Dwyane
Wade's Miami Heat that's been in the finals all time.
So I can understand the pressure part of it as
a fan. Can we just knock it down a notch
here and just play basketball? There is good basketball to
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be had.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
I don't think I've picked Miami to win one game
this entire playoffs.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
That I've believed one game since mid April. Yeah, well,
let's be honest. They were anything to watch. By the
time they started April. The Miami Heat record was forty
and thirty seven. And then they lost their play in
opener in April to Atlanta. That's a game that the
NBA itself does not even consider a postseason game. They
were almost out before the postseason began, and they wind
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up in the NBA Finals.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
What was it like, three minutes left in the game
and they were losing or something like that.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
To come back and beat Chicago to stay alive exactly.
This is the Heats record against the East in the
regular season was twenty four and twenty eight. The only
playoff team with a losing recording conference in the East,
and they wind up winning the East.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
Oh Our one fu on by Our one of the books,
Hour two, John Paul Morose, you gonna join us at
about twenty past the hour, so we'll get some baseball
and some NHL to get in there. We're gonna have
some fun. I'm not gonna tip it off yet. I'll
surprise the SEGA and a little bit more on what's
going on with the PGA and the Lift Tours. So
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