June 1, 2023 • 29 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon give their auditions for Undisputed. Monty Williams and the Detroit Pistons agree in principle on a six-year, $72 million deal for Williams to become the franchise’s new head coach. And find out why Jason doesn’t see Shohei Ohtani getting traded at the MLB Trade deadline.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Greetings and welcome inside. Happy Wednesday, The Jason Smith Show
with my bas friend Mike Harmony.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
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I'm gonna have to call you Skip the entire night
(00:57):
because I'm going to audition for Undisputed. We just yell
at each other for four hours. I'm gonna call you
Skip Skip Skip. I'm gonna do it, Skip Skip.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm gonna demean everything you've done in your broadcasting career.
I'm gonna make fun of your tailoring of your sleeves, okay,
and I I'm really I'm just gonna start screaming. I
told Tyshert long ago that as I get ready for
my next birthday, it's it's a full uh Swedish death
clean cleansing, including the personality that on air. I Am
(01:27):
just going to be full of hatred and vitriol and
scream for four hours.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What the hell is the Swedish death cleansing? Is that
a band?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
No, it's it's a no, no, It's it's a philosophy
whereby you take the time as you're starting to age
to give away things to friends and family that you
think they might enjoy to remember you by, and you
kind of minimizing the stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right, It's that what was there, Marie? Okay, wait a minute,
wait a bit, wait a minute minute, So we had
the Marie condo, Hey yet clutter from your life, but
instead you're talking about Swedish death, Swedish death match or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Is Yes, so when you're defeated, they don't have to
go through a bunch of crap.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's just turnkey and you move on. Yeah, but you could,
you could choose the Marie condo. Hey, although now Marie
Condo is all for clutter, so I mean, but Swedish
death cleaning sounds so much better. There's no, I don't
want to I don't want to clean and then die
at the end. I don't know. I'm not saying that
you're not going anywhere imminently.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's just the idea of you've got stuff that you
don't need that's just kind of sitting around, or maybe
you've had some hang ups on how you operate. I'm
extending the definition of this. Uh, and you just let
those all go and you look forward.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You had me at Swedish. But the death stuff, I mean,
you know, come on.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You want to go to sweets, Let's go back museum.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You guys want to go you well, I don't know
if they allow you in now because you're a but
you're talking about Swedish. No, I don't. I don't know, man,
you walk in with that kind of attitude. Hey, I'm here,
I'm just gonna give stuff away and then due No,
I'm not dying imminently.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And look, there might be some folks that would be
happy if that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I don't know. But the idea is.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
That we're gonna leave some of the pragmatism uh and
the well reason takes, and we're just gonna go for
the lowest common denominator, which is what draws a much
larger paycheck.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I'm already well, forever is gone, Skip, I've won this
debate already. I'm about Marie Condo positivity. You're about death
in Sweden. And that's you know, that's all. I've already won, Skip,
I already won one. Nothing, I've won. I've won. You
want too dark? You want to no, no, no, no no.
I didn't say I was.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's it's just a euphemism for that when you leave
this mortal coil, long long down the line. But in
the interim, people get to enjoy some of the things
that you've enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Maybe maybe it's a trading card.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Maybe I find you a nice uh classic Richard Todd
card to add to your collection or to hang up
somewhere around the student you. Maybe there's another final picture
of a met that would get you excitable.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Maybe maybe it's a satchel, a big Max And I've
been storing away. That's a scientific experiment.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
The thoughts tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, there we go, Satchel a big mat. That's how
you want a debate with me. Hey, oh, it's stop.
Let him thinking about food and big Max. All right, now,
he's got to Now I gotta focus. I gotta focus.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I've distracted him and now I'm taking a bunch of
kidney punches and taken them out.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
If I'm going in first, Shannon Sharp here and I
got I gotta, I gotta win all these I gotta.
I gotta not be focused on food. I gotta be
focused on sports.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
How's your switter game?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Gotta get me there? Oh, I gotta let's see.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You might have to invest in a in a tailor
with some good checkerboard patterns.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
All right, well, now here's the thing. Now, Now, would
they allow me to do the show in a T shirt,
sweatpants and a baseball hat like that? That's that's the
big thing. If they allow me to do that, I'm in.
But if they can't, I may have to pass on it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
The other thing is you're gonna have to become superstand
for Lebron James to the point where you literally get
on a court and fight people.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, no, no, no no. I got to do that
for the Knicks. I do that for the Knicks and
Aaron Rodgers and all that stuff. Now it's it's got
to be new people. Now, it's got we got we
gotta roll three. He can't keep doing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You got to get got people, well someone someone he
still needs protecting.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He does, sure, sure, okay, but I I want to
do I want to do my thing. I gotta I
want to do my thing and expand it. I want
to dress casual, I mean really casual and and and
and that's how I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's every day you walk in with a one of
those sleeveless sweatshirts.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
That's my hand on.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I can't go sleeveless because that that's Pat McAfee's thing
is I'm sleeveless and I curse, So I can't kiss
in trade market. I can't. Yeah, but the sleeveless thing
people think, not me, buckets. Yeah people.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And he's going to ESPN. They're gonna make him wear
a damn suit. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gonna yeah,
that's true. He's gonna have to wear that's one of
those things he's lost in the process. He's sure that
casual thing and the cursing are all gone. He's got
to create a whole new persona.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Tops and uh, you know they're all gonna have to
go now.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, you know you want you want a great ESPN
ESPN two story real fast before I'll tell you this
real fast. So when ESPN two first started, right now
you think, oh my god, ESPN two, Yes, I was.
I was a producer there for the birth of ESPN
two before it became a talent. So we get there
and they want to differentiate ESPN two from ESPN and
and nobody knew how to do, like, how do we
(06:21):
do it? How do we make sure like we put
certain people on ESPN two, but they won't appear on ESPN.
How do we do it? How do we differentiate? And
they decided their thing was on ESPN two, nobody would
wear ties. So that was the thing. Nobody would wear ties,
So when you were on TV, you didn't wear a tie.
That's how he said, Okay, we know it's ESPN two,
it's not wearing ties. So the best part of this
is I'm leading to this story. So we're doing an
(06:43):
interview because I'm working on ESPN two at the time,
and we're doing it doing an interview. It's the Sports
Night show with It was Kenny Maine and Susie Klber
and Keith Oldman and the I want to say, UMass
just made it. Made it on in the NCAA tournament,
going somewhere I forget and Cal was the head coach.
So they said, John, do you have a couple minutes
(07:03):
for ESPN and then ESPN two. He said yeah, sure,
so we see him. You know, he's up doing the
interview from site. You know Cali Perry. He loves the media.
Of course he's gonna have time. They would have said,
do you have time for somebody's kid here doing an
interview just in his living room, and they would say, yeah, sure, no, proud,
we got all kinds of time for that. So so
so Cali Perry does the interview with ESPN and everything's fine.
(07:24):
They go, okay, John, we'll be ready for you guys
ESPN two in like ninety seconds, not even if you
want to get war. He goes, yeah, sure, I'm fine,
I'm fine. So they get ready to go on and
they get ready to go on. And I think it
was Stu Scott that that actually came on. Stu Scott
and Susie Cawlber were doing the interview and they start
talking to John. Hey, we're here with John Canes. Wait
stop stop stop, guys, stop stop stop, and he was wait,
what's wry? He go wait, wait wait, and he takes something,
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taking his tie off, and he goes, I know this
on ESPN two, you guys don't wear ties. Hang on,
let me take my tie off. So we waited for it.
Just took him like a minute to take his tie
off and go all right, I'm good. Now ready, let's
do the interview. So he actually did that because he
knew he didn't wear ties on ESPN two. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I mean, you got to find your in, find your
wins where you can, and decide how you're you gonna go.
I remember I used to say yes to every request
right as podcasting grew. I had one early on and
then had to kind of bounce it as a signed
contracts uh and and had to push that away. But
I remember going on one that immediately they just started
(08:22):
asking me, so, what the what's the deal with this?
Blankety blank? And why is he such a blanky blank
blank blank receiver? And I'm just like, yeah, I think
this will be the last appearance on this think, you know,
coming from traditional radio and trying to be serious about it, I.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Was like, ah, hey, so there's one test that you
have to pass before you can get your audition.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Oh well, what's the test we have to pass?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
You have to be able to kick John Moran's dad's ass.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh all right, well he's in. Could I do the Yeah,
he's kind of he's been kind of quiet for a while.
Just tell him mine, Hey, I know Jack Nicholson. I
can get you more pictures with Jack, and then he would,
then he would then he would lay off me.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But you don't know Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
No, I don't. But I could say it he doesn't
know that, and then that would buy me a lot
of time.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I think I think everybody knows that.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Listen, I listen. I'm all about kicking the can down
the road, man. Until something, I'll kick that can down
the road. It's all good.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
And how do you not know Jack? You've been in
LA for how long?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I should I should know Jack? But I don't. Oh,
he has been a recluse for a decade. Ye, I
has been.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Held that guy's hand for like twenty minutes straight.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Now that that's a fair point. How do you not
have a plaster mold of his hand in your.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Show? Like Jack Nicholson's not somebody I went crazy to
shake his hand. It's easy. I mean, Jack Nicholson's Jack Nicholson.
But you know I'm not a guy to go crazy Jacobs.
I do him instead. I have never sat court side.
I've never sat next to Jack. I mean they're great seats.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I got to do court side once in Dallas many
years ago.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh okay, And I would say yourself, well, I was
just laughing the whole night. I couldn't get a word
in because look, it's one of those things.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And I think we've talked about it before in our
long run together here on Fox Sports Radio. Is if
you want to go see a game in a whole
different way, right, get on the sidelines of a high
level college or NFL game. Obviously, the sounds, the sites,
all of those things, the chills and the speed of
things will just blind you. But an NBA game, if
(10:29):
you can get down courtside to where you can hear
the smack talking and you could hear what guys are
running at the referees. You'll you'll never look at a
game the same way.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Your ass off the.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Entire talking from the court side seats.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, Like I remember when Kurt Chilling did that. Boy,
Kobe uses the f wort all the time, yelling at
his teammates. Is that the right thing to do? I
don't know everyone that was a big thing. Hey, Kobe
just kind of yelled at his teammates.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, I went and saw so like Cuban obviously the
ties to Yahoo.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
When I was with them way back in the day.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
They hooked me up when I was traveling for a
family thing and just said, hey, go to the box office.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
No ide, not a sponsor. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
All I knew was they were getting me four tickets.
Beyond that, I had no clue. And then the envelope
said from the Office of the Commissioner, and it was
signed by Cuban saying have a good time.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Okay, this looks like it could be fun.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You pull out the tickets, You're like okay, and then
all of a sudden you're going and like no, keep coming,
keep coming, And this ends up being Mavericks during the
triple JS and Alan Iverson coming back off an injury,
so he's wearing the huge sleeve, not quite braced, but
from the fuck it is full on in and they
just hammered the hell out of him every time he's
(11:43):
got the ball, and he's cursing, and they're ron and
smack all night long. And then towards the end he
goes in and hits a layup that pretty much seals
it and won, and by then it's quiet enough and
he just screams at the official and he gets like
five F bombs in a sentence and the official ton
and he's taken it all night long, right, all these guys,
(12:05):
you know, and he goes, wow, there's I have to
tee you up for that.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Like everybody heard that.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
So it was one of those and you're looking wrong
on Yeah, I don't know that I ever want to
go to another NBA.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It came a game. I don't know if I can't
replicate this experience.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So I think you're banned from the arena after.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think you can. I think
you're I think you're done.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, It's it's costly and obviously here in La we
know what those run because they put it up on
the broadcast at every turn to tell you how much
somebody's paying for a ticket.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
They actually pay you to sit courtside out of the
next game.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
No stop, come on, that was years ago. Now you
actually have to pay to get in now. Now you
have to the team is good. Now, you have to
pay to get in now. Since the middle of this season,
you have to pay to get in.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Told me that.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
There's no buy a big Mac get a free Knicks ticket, right,
there's not that doesn't happen anymore. You don't know not. No,
it's not a thing. It's not a thing. Nope, no,
not a thing. Can't do. Yeah, we're gonna have to
google that one. No, sure, there's no at the end
of your McDonald's coupon booklet a free ticket for the
Nix and the MAVs. No, there's none of that. No,
they don't have that anymore. Aaron is at the bottom
(13:12):
of the happy meal. Yay.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Oh man, I wanted a little Mermaid toy and.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I got this sticking Knicks ticket. The Jason Smith Show
is my best friend, Mike Harmon, So tonight's gonna be
We're gonna have to hot take It tonight for our
audition for Undisputed. So oh hell, you're definitely gonna have
to do.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Them all the pipes.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
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we'll get to our big hot take in a couple
(14:28):
of minutes. But there is a coaching change in the NBA.
We want to tell you about. The Detroit Pistons have
their new head coach, Monti Williams. Great move, right, Hey,
there's a lot of good head coaches out there who
are let go because teams decide we think we can
do better. Guys that have won championships, Guys that have
been to the NBA finals the last three years. Monti
Williams is a great get. Six years, seventy two million
(14:52):
dollars is a contract with incentives. It could be as
much as eight years and one hundred million. Is he
going to play too? I mean did six years and
seventy two million for Manti? What that thought? After? He's
that thought? After?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Look, Monti Williams has got to be a guy that
you're looking at as our guy that's gonna create blueprints
and he's gonna lay foundation, and he's got masonry work
in his history.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He knows how to how to really build a building.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Because good lord, look, I love the potential there in Detroit.
You were high on them before Cunningham got hurt.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, I backed away from that. Really fascinating you did. No.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, that's why I bring it up, because you know
you're gonna have your people, are gonna score your hot takes.
Oh you know when when we start rotating in to
hang out with Skip in the morning, you gotta say.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Skip the right way. Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
But I mean you got a nice young cores in
this squad, the draft coming, like all of these things.
Still trying to coax whatever James Wiseman can become it. Man, Look,
if you want to pay the guy a lot of
money because you feel you need to bid against whoever
else is still in the marketplace, right.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
But man, that is that's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I mean, you've been your coach and and the length
of time like we're committing to this, he gets to
build his program or we're gonna pay him out fifty
plus million dollars when we fire his ass because this
doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Good for him, Good for him. Hey, take all of.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It, Use whatever leverage you have, real or imagined, and
get every dime you can.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Listen, I'm not a six year, seventy two million dollar coach.
Potentially eight years one hundred million. No, but if you
want me in Detroit, that's what I am. But if
you want me in to Doe, well we got to overpay. Well,
you know what we talked.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
We talked about that last year, and I liked the
deal Jacksonville made with Christian Kirk. A lot of folks
joked about It's like, look, he never made a thousand yards. Well,
he was just shy of a thousand in a weird
arison own offense where he was off in the third
or fourth option.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
He goes to Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Uh, and while he the contract looked out of sorts,
final stats, you're looking around going all right, it's not awful.
But the point was that they paid a Jacksonville tax.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You want a guy to come down here, you go
on a guy to come play here. That isn't desperate, Right.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
There's a thing of hey, you get traded, uh, and
you've got to do a reclamation thing, you know, Calvin
Ridley coming off of a suspension. You know, there are
certain things that come into play there. But in terms
of free agency, yeah, you're probably gonna have to overpay
a bit to get guys in, and certainly for Detroit,
it looks like they had to really come over the top.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Come on, MANMANI Williams is making nine.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Dollars paying him like Jackson.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Was going. I got.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You know how many championships I have. I couldn't get
nine million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, I'm shoved.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Like I saw the number before and then Williams and
you had the addendum of the incentives. I mean right
now at that that, like, say he hits all incentives,
he will be second to Popovich amongst highest paid NBA coaches.
I mean that's Acurs at nine and a half. Doc
well he was Oh no, she got more money. Remember
(18:20):
I actually won. It was in two thousand and eight,
but I won. Remember I was a long time ago,
but I won.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I got I don know fifteen eighteen million dollars a year,
maybe maybe twenty million a year. Maybe that could be
twenty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Now, what's funny is if you look at the top
six highest paid coaches for this last NBA season, Popovich, Kerr, Rivers, Spolster, Bootenholezer,
and Nurse.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I'll let you figure that out. How that hapends.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Oh my dude, he is nine years coaching with the Bulls,
winning six championships. Phil Jackson made a total of nine
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Let's talk about, right, Monty Williams is gonna make nine
million for a team to fifteen wins next year?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I wa to return at ninety nine with the Lakers
with a thirty million, five year contract.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh we're talking. Oh no. I I get that you're
talking about generations are different and money is different, and
I get you have to overpay. But wow, man, I
mean when you you tell the average NBA fan if
you just said this, then did you see the Pistons
what Monty Williams six years, seventy two million could be
eight and one hundred. The average NBA fan is gonna
go point point guard, point guard? Small forward? What was
(19:33):
he a small forward? Where he?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
What's my I mean, Monty looks tall on the sidelines,
but what where'd.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
He play last year?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
He?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I mean, he looks and he's old. I mean, I
how many minutes can we give you?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Dropping twenty a game?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Six eight?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean he's coming back and he's going into small
forward territory?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Or did was was he the one playing in Phoenix
and they got Kevin de Oh no, he was coaching?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Oh well, oh, and unfortunately that becomes the joke when
you go to Detroit because people don't necessarily know about
some of the young players that are up and coming here, like, wait,
is he playing and coaching?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I think Money Williams might might be the highest paid
person in the entire state of Michigan right now.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
He's getting more money than Harbaugh. Go, well, yeah, because
Harbaugh more money than is oh, more money than Harball.
He's got to be the highest paid person in the
state of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
How much you guys want to bet real quickly that
those stories are going to come out with Harbaugh wants
to back in the NFL tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, hey, I'll take some phone calls. I can't have
money Williams. Come on, I can't have money. Williams gooting
here to make more money, currently making six million a year. Yeah,
look at Monty Williams making more money than anybody. He
is the he is the guy that he look, he's
the big influencer right now in the state of Michigan.
It's money, Madams that is winning the lottery. I can't
(20:50):
get over winning the lottery.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Everybody was all mad mad about it, and whatever we
said it was inevitable. Is that you know the fall
guy when he got fired there in Phoenix. You had
a couple of big runs and then, just like so
many of these teams, no show when it matters, coach
is the guy that takes the fall, and now he
gets rewarded with.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
This that gets rewarded with this.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I he didn't win with that that roster, and now
he gets to go build from scratching nine million dollars
a year.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
He's my hero.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm putting a picture of him up next to my
girls as my wall of influence in front of me,
positivity for the day, aspire to be Monty.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Hey, hey, dad, did you hear the news? They heck,
I got an A on my history test and I'm
gonna get an award at graduation. Marty Williams got nine
million dollars a year to coach the Pistons. You come
back to me when you have something that's worthwhile. Get
out of my face.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Well, I don't think it was gonna quite get that
bitter with it. But he is a nice tale of perseverance.
And obviously we know Moni's full story. Has been a
hell of a coach, but underachieved when it matters. You
can blame Chris Paul wasn't there or what was going
on with guys underperforming on the court. Coach still has
to get him ready and back to back years in
(22:06):
the biggest stage, on the biggest on the brightest spotlight,
they failed miserably and no shown. I mean he was
better wearing it than Missoula was in terms of how
he addressed the media. Guys to the point of nine million,
what's that.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
This deal with Marty Williams and the Pistons could reach
eight years and one hundred million dollars based on team
options And.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
No, that's it? And yeah no and we we we
did get to that. What's what's the incentive? Twenty wins
in a year? Is that the incentive is that what
he gets to it?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Wasn't he have to improve? How many games do they
have to improve by this coming year.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
To get to get get into the play in tournament?
Is that what it is to get to get into
the playing tournament? But think about this though, man, like
all of this is all guaranteed, now does it? Wait
wait a minute, here's what makes it is? No? No, no, no,
what's the other twenty eight who knows? No? No, No,
I don't think it is. I wonder if this is
the whole deal where it's he's getting paid per win
(23:06):
that they expect. So nine years, seventy two million, he's
gonna get paid, you know, nine wins. Next year he'll
get paid a million dollar per win. I think that
might be what it is. Is he managing the eies.
I mean, dude, you can't expect that much more from
the Pistons, right they come up?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I mean the look, it's hope, you're selling hope. You
got a bunch of young guys. You got Cunningham coming back.
You'll be at another draft pick. I tay you guys, ready, Yeah,
go ahead?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Paid Piston player is Bojon Bugdanovich. Yeah, I'm signed to
a four year, seventy three million dollar contract. No one
else on the Pistons makes more than twelve a season.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Or for seventy three All that to get killed by
John Wick with a book. Just think about that, man, man,
all that all that's.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
That's a different guy. That's Bulban.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
That's ah, that's right, there was Bulbon bubon with.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
The giant hands. Hey, can I have a handful of
your chips?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
That's right? Eighty percent of the bank. You know it's
not time yet doesn't matter. Oh I feel bad for you.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I like that though you got bugged out of it. Yeah,
I'm well, and I got John.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Wickt and I come on, I got, I got everybody in. Well,
let's sing a few bars of dog Star Wall. We're
at it. Hey, congratulations, clearly Monty Williams is the big win.
Say here on the day we're all playing for second place.
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if show out is not getting traded, as long as
the Angels are a couple of games over five hundred
and stay that way, no reason why we lose. He
will stay and Angel the rest of the season. On
the flip side of that is Dalvin Cook. If you
want one of the top number one running backs in
the NFL, just wait a couple more days, because sometime
(25:21):
after tomorrow, after June first, Dalvin Cook is going to
get released. You saw the statement today that Kevin O'Connell
made the head coach that Alexander Madison is is stepping
into a big three down running back role. The Vikings
air brushed Dalvin Cook out and put Alexander Madison in
(25:42):
on their screen on their on their Twitter banner. So, yeah,
Dalvin Cook is going to get post June first cut,
and he is going to be out there for a
lot of teams to get and for a guy who's
twenty seven and has functioned well as a number one
running back, yeah, I got a lot of interest in
this guy. For the next couple of years. I don't know.
He's had a lot of carries. So at two more years,
(26:04):
at two years after this, I don't know that I
want him. But this year, next year, yeah, give me
some Dalvin Cook. A guy that can average between four
and a half and five yards of carry and finds
the end zone, not many guys have functioned like a
number one running back as he hasn't. Still twenty seven,
twenty eight years old, He's got some gas left in
the tank. Man. I'd be all in on Dalvin Cook
for the next two years.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
But now it's tough for Alexander Madison. Say we can
do musical theater when we take over.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
You can do that. You know, how has that not
worked yet? As a sports talk radio So many formats
have worked. How about sports talk musical theater? How's that
not going? Well?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
We can make that work. I mean, look, there's enough
teams of writers. I mean, someone's got to have some.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Lists. Love the Sin, hate the Sinner. I think we
could make that work. But yeah, Dalvin Cook not done.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
But as we know with the running back position, and
it was a big story I think was yesterday Christian
McCaffrey kind of talking about being undervalued and you should
really take care of and love running backs and all
this stuff. That's all find and good, but you've seen
winning team after winning team, big time runs to Super Bowls,
(27:16):
where you've had committee situations and oftentime, the guy who
becomes the lead in those situations when it matters is
not the guy anybody would have expected, right, rookies, undrafted guys,
you name it. It's been a very good move by
front offices to Yes, you invest some in that roster
(27:42):
slot and in the running back room, but the game
is played elsewhere. You need more guys and rotation to
rush the quarterback, and more guys in a rotation to
protect yours.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
If you are looking at the destination for him, And
already the Cowboys have mentioned a lot Dalvin Cood Cowboys. Okay, well,
you have Tony Pollard who's been pretty good. Either he's
coming back or he's not. You didn't address running back
in the draft, so I have to think the Cowboys
feel pretty good about.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Rob They did grab that guy whose dad was a true.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
They did, but it's not like they traded up to
get Jamiir Gibbs, you know, like we need a guy.
So I it seems like you have to look at
teams that seem like they're feeling good about their running
back position. Right, So, so, and I think the Cowboys
feel good. But I'll give you three teams that he
can either keep at the top or put over the top. Right,
(28:36):
he can keep the Chiefs at the top, they've been
looking for something and boy would he fit in awesome right,
they've been looking for something out of their running backs.
But check go and Edwards Hilaire. They didn't put up
his optionect is your guy, but I keep them at
the top. He would put the Bengals over the top
(28:58):
one hundred percent because that's exactly mixing. You know who
knows about what his future is gonna be. But those
in GP rynds so he could make the Rams back
into a playoff contender. Those are the three teams I'd
look out for Dalla ram It, Bengals and the Rams.
That's where That's where I would go if I was
one of those teams, That's what I'd be looking for
(29:18):
him for the next two years. One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I'll stick with cam Akers and and Hope he's still motivated.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
He and Henderson because they make nothing. Ah, that's too
much hope. Give me, give me somebody who's done it
too much. Help Mike Harbon, you're full of too much positivity.
Now you've come full circle. This entire hour. We got
a the NFL. I'm not giving that all that. Monday
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(00:57):
because I'm going to audition for Undisputed. We just yell
at each other for four hours. I'm gonna call you
Skip Skip Skip. I'm gonna do it, Skip Skip.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I'm gonna demean everything you've done in your broadcasting career.
I'm gonna make fun of your tailoring of your sleeves, okay,
and I I'm really I'm just gonna start screaming. I
told Tyshert long ago that as I get ready for
my next birthday, it's it's a full uh Swedish death
clean cleansing, including the personality that on air. I Am
(01:27):
just going to be full of hatred and vitriol and
scream for four hours.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
What the hell is the Swedish death cleansing? Is that
a band?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
No, it's it's a no, no, It's it's a philosophy
whereby you take the time as you're starting to age
to give away things to friends and family that you
think they might enjoy to remember you by, and you
kind of minimizing the stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Right, It's that what was there, Marie? Okay, wait a minute,
wait a bit, wait a minute minute, So we had
the Marie condo, Hey yet clutter from your life, but
instead you're talking about Swedish death, Swedish death match or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Is Yes, so when you're defeated, they don't have to
go through a bunch of crap.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
It's just turnkey and you move on. Yeah, but you could,
you could choose the Marie condo. Hey, although now Marie
Condo is all for clutter, so I mean, but Swedish
death cleaning sounds so much better. There's no, I don't
want to I don't want to clean and then die
at the end. I don't know. I'm not saying that
you're not going anywhere imminently.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's just the idea of you've got stuff that you
don't need that's just kind of sitting around, or maybe
you've had some hang ups on how you operate. I'm
extending the definition of this. Uh, and you just let
those all go and you look forward.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You had me at Swedish. But the death stuff, I mean,
you know, come on.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You want to go to sweets, Let's go back museum.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You guys want to go you well, I don't know
if they allow you in now because you're a but
you're talking about Swedish. No, I don't. I don't know, man,
you walk in with that kind of attitude. Hey, I'm here,
I'm just gonna give stuff away and then due No,
I'm not dying imminently.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And look, there might be some folks that would be
happy if that happened.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I don't know. But the idea is.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
That we're gonna leave some of the pragmatism uh and
the well reason takes, and we're just gonna go for
the lowest common denominator, which is what draws a much
larger paycheck.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
I'm already well, forever is gone, Skip, I've won this
debate already. I'm about Marie Condo positivity. You're about death
in Sweden. And that's you know, that's all. I've already won, Skip,
I already won one. Nothing, I've won. I've won. You
want too dark? You want to no, no, no, no no.
I didn't say I was.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's it's just a euphemism for that when you leave
this mortal coil, long long down the line. But in
the interim, people get to enjoy some of the things
that you've enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Maybe maybe it's a trading card.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Maybe I find you a nice uh classic Richard Todd
card to add to your collection or to hang up
somewhere around the student you. Maybe there's another final picture
of a met that would get you excitable.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Maybe maybe it's a satchel, a big Max And I've
been storing away. That's a scientific experiment.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
The thoughts tonight.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, there we go, Satchel a big mat. That's how
you want a debate with me. Hey, oh, it's stop.
Let him thinking about food and big Max. All right, now,
he's got to Now I gotta focus. I gotta focus.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
I've distracted him and now I'm taking a bunch of
kidney punches and taken them out.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
If I'm going in first, Shannon Sharp here and I
got I gotta, I gotta win all these I gotta.
I gotta not be focused on food. I gotta be
focused on sports.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
How's your switter game?
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Gotta get me there? Oh, I gotta let's see.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You might have to invest in a in a tailor
with some good checkerboard patterns.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
All right, well, now here's the thing. Now, Now, would
they allow me to do the show in a T shirt,
sweatpants and a baseball hat like that? That's that's the
big thing. If they allow me to do that, I'm in.
But if they can't, I may have to pass on it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
The other thing is you're gonna have to become superstand
for Lebron James to the point where you literally get
on a court and fight people.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, no, no, no no. I got to do that
for the Knicks. I do that for the Knicks and
Aaron Rodgers and all that stuff. Now it's it's got
to be new people. Now, it's got we got we
gotta roll three. He can't keep doing the same thing.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You got to get got people, well someone someone he
still needs protecting.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He does, sure, sure, okay, but I I want to
do I want to do my thing. I gotta I
want to do my thing and expand it. I want
to dress casual, I mean really casual and and and
and that's how I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's every day you walk in with a one of
those sleeveless sweatshirts.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
That's my hand on.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I can't go sleeveless because that that's Pat McAfee's thing
is I'm sleeveless and I curse, So I can't kiss
in trade market. I can't. Yeah, but the sleeveless thing
people think, not me, buckets. Yeah people.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
And he's going to ESPN. They're gonna make him wear
a damn suit. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gonna yeah,
that's true. He's gonna have to wear that's one of
those things he's lost in the process. He's sure that
casual thing and the cursing are all gone. He's got
to create a whole new persona.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Tops and uh, you know they're all gonna have to
go now.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, you know you want you want a great ESPN
ESPN two story real fast before I'll tell you this
real fast. So when ESPN two first started, right now
you think, oh my god, ESPN two, Yes, I was.
I was a producer there for the birth of ESPN
two before it became a talent. So we get there
and they want to differentiate ESPN two from ESPN and
and nobody knew how to do, like, how do we
(06:21):
do it? How do we make sure like we put
certain people on ESPN two, but they won't appear on ESPN.
How do we do it? How do we differentiate? And
they decided their thing was on ESPN two, nobody would
wear ties. So that was the thing. Nobody would wear ties,
So when you were on TV, you didn't wear a tie.
That's how he said, Okay, we know it's ESPN two,
it's not wearing ties. So the best part of this
is I'm leading to this story. So we're doing an
(06:43):
interview because I'm working on ESPN two at the time,
and we're doing it doing an interview. It's the Sports
Night show with It was Kenny Maine and Susie Klber
and Keith Oldman and the I want to say, UMass
just made it. Made it on in the NCAA tournament,
going somewhere I forget and Cal was the head coach.
So they said, John, do you have a couple minutes
(07:03):
for ESPN and then ESPN two. He said yeah, sure,
so we see him. You know, he's up doing the
interview from site. You know Cali Perry. He loves the media.
Of course he's gonna have time. They would have said,
do you have time for somebody's kid here doing an
interview just in his living room, and they would say, yeah, sure, no, proud,
we got all kinds of time for that. So so
so Cali Perry does the interview with ESPN and everything's fine.
(07:24):
They go, okay, John, we'll be ready for you guys
ESPN two in like ninety seconds, not even if you
want to get war. He goes, yeah, sure, I'm fine,
I'm fine. So they get ready to go on and
they get ready to go on. And I think it
was Stu Scott that that actually came on. Stu Scott
and Susie Cawlber were doing the interview and they start
talking to John. Hey, we're here with John Canes. Wait
stop stop stop, guys, stop stop stop, and he was wait,
what's wry? He go wait, wait wait, and he takes something,
(07:44):
taking his tie off, and he goes, I know this
on ESPN two, you guys don't wear ties. Hang on,
let me take my tie off. So we waited for it.
Just took him like a minute to take his tie
off and go all right, I'm good. Now ready, let's
do the interview. So he actually did that because he
knew he didn't wear ties on ESPN two. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
I mean, you got to find your in, find your
wins where you can, and decide how you're you gonna go.
I remember I used to say yes to every request
right as podcasting grew. I had one early on and
then had to kind of bounce it as a signed
contracts uh and and had to push that away. But
I remember going on one that immediately they just started
(08:22):
asking me, so, what the what's the deal with this?
Blankety blank? And why is he such a blanky blank
blank blank receiver? And I'm just like, yeah, I think
this will be the last appearance on this think, you know,
coming from traditional radio and trying to be serious about it, I.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Was like, ah, hey, so there's one test that you
have to pass before you can get your audition.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Oh well, what's the test we have to pass?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
You have to be able to kick John Moran's dad's ass.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh all right, well he's in. Could I do the Yeah,
he's kind of he's been kind of quiet for a while.
Just tell him mine, Hey, I know Jack Nicholson. I
can get you more pictures with Jack, and then he would,
then he would then he would lay off me.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
But you don't know Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
No, I don't. But I could say it he doesn't
know that, and then that would buy me a lot
of time.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I think I think everybody knows that.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Listen, I listen. I'm all about kicking the can down
the road, man. Until something, I'll kick that can down
the road. It's all good.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
And how do you not know Jack? You've been in
LA for how long?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I should I should know Jack? But I don't. Oh,
he has been a recluse for a decade. Ye, I
has been.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Held that guy's hand for like twenty minutes straight.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Now that that's a fair point. How do you not
have a plaster mold of his hand in your.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Show? Like Jack Nicholson's not somebody I went crazy to
shake his hand. It's easy. I mean, Jack Nicholson's Jack Nicholson.
But you know I'm not a guy to go crazy Jacobs.
I do him instead. I have never sat court side.
I've never sat next to Jack. I mean they're great seats.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I got to do court side once in Dallas many
years ago.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Oh okay, And I would say yourself, well, I was
just laughing the whole night. I couldn't get a word
in because look, it's one of those things.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
And I think we've talked about it before in our
long run together here on Fox Sports Radio. Is if
you want to go see a game in a whole
different way, right, get on the sidelines of a high
level college or NFL game. Obviously, the sounds, the sites,
all of those things, the chills and the speed of
things will just blind you. But an NBA game, if
(10:29):
you can get down courtside to where you can hear
the smack talking and you could hear what guys are
running at the referees. You'll you'll never look at a
game the same way.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Your ass off the.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Entire talking from the court side seats.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Yeah, Like I remember when Kurt Chilling did that. Boy,
Kobe uses the f wort all the time, yelling at
his teammates. Is that the right thing to do? I
don't know everyone that was a big thing. Hey, Kobe
just kind of yelled at his teammates.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Well, I went and saw so like Cuban obviously the
ties to Yahoo.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
When I was with them way back in the day.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
They hooked me up when I was traveling for a
family thing and just said, hey, go to the box office.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
No ide, not a sponsor. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
All I knew was they were getting me four tickets.
Beyond that, I had no clue. And then the envelope
said from the Office of the Commissioner, and it was
signed by Cuban saying have a good time.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Okay, this looks like it could be fun.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You pull out the tickets, You're like okay, and then
all of a sudden you're going and like no, keep coming,
keep coming, And this ends up being Mavericks during the
triple JS and Alan Iverson coming back off an injury,
so he's wearing the huge sleeve, not quite braced, but
from the fuck it is full on in and they
just hammered the hell out of him every time he's
(11:43):
got the ball, and he's cursing, and they're ron and
smack all night long. And then towards the end he
goes in and hits a layup that pretty much seals
it and won, and by then it's quiet enough and
he just screams at the official and he gets like
five F bombs in a sentence and the official ton
and he's taken it all night long, right, all these guys,
(12:05):
you know, and he goes, wow, there's I have to
tee you up for that.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Like everybody heard that.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
So it was one of those and you're looking wrong
on Yeah, I don't know that I ever want to
go to another NBA.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
It came a game. I don't know if I can't
replicate this experience.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
So I think you're banned from the arena after.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, I don't. I don't think you can. I think
you're I think you're done.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Yeah, It's it's costly and obviously here in La we
know what those run because they put it up on
the broadcast at every turn to tell you how much
somebody's paying for a ticket.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
They actually pay you to sit courtside out of the
next game.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
No stop, come on, that was years ago. Now you
actually have to pay to get in now. Now you
have to the team is good. Now, you have to
pay to get in now. Since the middle of this season,
you have to pay to get in.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Told me that.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
There's no buy a big Mac get a free Knicks ticket, right,
there's not that doesn't happen anymore. You don't know not. No,
it's not a thing. It's not a thing. Nope, no,
not a thing. Can't do. Yeah, we're gonna have to
google that one. No, sure, there's no at the end
of your McDonald's coupon booklet a free ticket for the
Nix and the MAVs. No, there's none of that. No,
they don't have that anymore. Aaron is at the bottom
(13:12):
of the happy meal. Yay.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Oh man, I wanted a little Mermaid toy and.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I got this sticking Knicks ticket. The Jason Smith Show
is my best friend, Mike Harmon, So tonight's gonna be
We're gonna have to hot take It tonight for our
audition for Undisputed. So oh hell, you're definitely gonna have
to do.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
Them all the pipes.
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(14:28):
of minutes. But there is a coaching change in the NBA.
We want to tell you about. The Detroit Pistons have
their new head coach, Monti Williams. Great move, right, Hey,
there's a lot of good head coaches out there who
are let go because teams decide we think we can
do better. Guys that have won championships, Guys that have
been to the NBA finals the last three years. Monti
Williams is a great get. Six years, seventy two million
(14:52):
dollars is a contract with incentives. It could be as
much as eight years and one hundred million. Is he
going to play too? I mean did six years and
seventy two million for Manti? What that thought? After? He's
that thought? After?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Look, Monti Williams has got to be a guy that
you're looking at as our guy that's gonna create blueprints
and he's gonna lay foundation, and he's got masonry work
in his history.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He knows how to how to really build a building.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Because good lord, look, I love the potential there in Detroit.
You were high on them before Cunningham got hurt.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Yeah, I backed away from that. Really fascinating you did. No.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Well, that's why I bring it up, because you know
you're gonna have your people, are gonna score your hot takes.
Oh you know when when we start rotating in to
hang out with Skip in the morning, you gotta say.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Skip the right way. Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
But I mean you got a nice young cores in
this squad, the draft coming, like all of these things.
Still trying to coax whatever James Wiseman can become it. Man, Look,
if you want to pay the guy a lot of
money because you feel you need to bid against whoever
else is still in the marketplace, right.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
But man, that is that's a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I mean, you've been your coach and and the length
of time like we're committing to this, he gets to
build his program or we're gonna pay him out fifty
plus million dollars when we fire his ass because this
doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Good for him, Good for him. Hey, take all of.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It, Use whatever leverage you have, real or imagined, and
get every dime you can.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Listen, I'm not a six year, seventy two million dollar coach.
Potentially eight years one hundred million. No, but if you
want me in Detroit, that's what I am. But if
you want me in to Doe, well we got to overpay. Well,
you know what we talked.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
We talked about that last year, and I liked the
deal Jacksonville made with Christian Kirk. A lot of folks
joked about It's like, look, he never made a thousand yards. Well,
he was just shy of a thousand in a weird
arison own offense where he was off in the third
or fourth option.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
He goes to Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Uh, and while he the contract looked out of sorts,
final stats, you're looking around going all right, it's not awful.
But the point was that they paid a Jacksonville tax.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
You want a guy to come down here, you go
on a guy to come play here. That isn't desperate, Right.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
There's a thing of hey, you get traded, uh, and
you've got to do a reclamation thing, you know, Calvin
Ridley coming off of a suspension. You know, there are
certain things that come into play there. But in terms
of free agency, yeah, you're probably gonna have to overpay
a bit to get guys in, and certainly for Detroit,
it looks like they had to really come over the top.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Come on, MANMANI Williams is making nine.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Dollars paying him like Jackson.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Was going. I got.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You know how many championships I have. I couldn't get
nine million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, I'm shoved.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Like I saw the number before and then Williams and
you had the addendum of the incentives. I mean right
now at that that, like, say he hits all incentives,
he will be second to Popovich amongst highest paid NBA coaches.
I mean that's Acurs at nine and a half. Doc
well he was Oh no, she got more money. Remember
(18:20):
I actually won. It was in two thousand and eight,
but I won. Remember I was a long time ago,
but I won.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
I got I don know fifteen eighteen million dollars a year,
maybe maybe twenty million a year. Maybe that could be
twenty million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Now, what's funny is if you look at the top
six highest paid coaches for this last NBA season, Popovich, Kerr, Rivers, Spolster, Bootenholezer,
and Nurse.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I'll let you figure that out. How that hapends.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Oh my dude, he is nine years coaching with the Bulls,
winning six championships. Phil Jackson made a total of nine
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Let's talk about, right, Monty Williams is gonna make nine
million for a team to fifteen wins next year?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I wa to return at ninety nine with the Lakers
with a thirty million, five year contract.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh we're talking. Oh no. I I get that you're
talking about generations are different and money is different, and
I get you have to overpay. But wow, man, I
mean when you you tell the average NBA fan if
you just said this, then did you see the Pistons
what Monty Williams six years, seventy two million could be
eight and one hundred. The average NBA fan is gonna
go point point guard, point guard? Small forward? What was
(19:33):
he a small forward? Where he?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
What's my I mean, Monty looks tall on the sidelines,
but what where'd.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
He play last year?
Speaker 4 (19:41):
He?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I mean, he looks and he's old. I mean, I
how many minutes can we give you?
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Dropping twenty a game?
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Six eight?
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I mean he's coming back and he's going into small
forward territory?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Or did was was he the one playing in Phoenix
and they got Kevin de Oh no, he was coaching?
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Oh well, oh, and unfortunately that becomes the joke when
you go to Detroit because people don't necessarily know about
some of the young players that are up and coming here, like, wait,
is he playing and coaching?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I think Money Williams might might be the highest paid
person in the entire state of Michigan right now.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
He's getting more money than Harbaugh. Go, well, yeah, because
Harbaugh more money than is oh, more money than Harball.
He's got to be the highest paid person in the
state of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (20:22):
How much you guys want to bet real quickly that
those stories are going to come out with Harbaugh wants
to back in the NFL tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Yeah, hey, I'll take some phone calls. I can't have
money Williams. Come on, I can't have money. Williams gooting
here to make more money, currently making six million a year. Yeah,
look at Monty Williams making more money than anybody. He
is the he is the guy that he look, he's
the big influencer right now in the state of Michigan.
It's money, Madams that is winning the lottery. I can't
(20:50):
get over winning the lottery.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Everybody was all mad mad about it, and whatever we
said it was inevitable. Is that you know the fall
guy when he got fired there in Phoenix. You had
a couple of big runs and then, just like so
many of these teams, no show when it matters, coach
is the guy that takes the fall, and now he
gets rewarded with.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
This that gets rewarded with this.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I he didn't win with that that roster, and now
he gets to go build from scratching nine million dollars
a year.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
He's my hero.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm putting a picture of him up next to my
girls as my wall of influence in front of me,
positivity for the day, aspire to be Monty.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Hey, hey, dad, did you hear the news? They heck,
I got an A on my history test and I'm
gonna get an award at graduation. Marty Williams got nine
million dollars a year to coach the Pistons. You come
back to me when you have something that's worthwhile. Get
out of my face.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Well, I don't think it was gonna quite get that
bitter with it. But he is a nice tale of perseverance.
And obviously we know Moni's full story. Has been a
hell of a coach, but underachieved when it matters. You
can blame Chris Paul wasn't there or what was going
on with guys underperforming on the court. Coach still has
to get him ready and back to back years in
(22:06):
the biggest stage, on the biggest on the brightest spotlight,
they failed miserably and no shown. I mean he was
better wearing it than Missoula was in terms of how
he addressed the media. Guys to the point of nine million,
what's that.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
This deal with Marty Williams and the Pistons could reach
eight years and one hundred million dollars based on team
options And.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
No, that's it? And yeah no and we we we
did get to that. What's what's the incentive? Twenty wins
in a year? Is that the incentive is that what
he gets to it?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Wasn't he have to improve? How many games do they
have to improve by this coming year.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
To get to get get into the play in tournament?
Is that what it is to get to get into
the playing tournament? But think about this though, man, like
all of this is all guaranteed, now does it? Wait
wait a minute, here's what makes it is? No? No, no, no,
what's the other twenty eight who knows? No? No, No,
I don't think it is. I wonder if this is
the whole deal where it's he's getting paid per win
(23:06):
that they expect. So nine years, seventy two million, he's
gonna get paid, you know, nine wins. Next year he'll
get paid a million dollar per win. I think that
might be what it is. Is he managing the eies.
I mean, dude, you can't expect that much more from
the Pistons, right they come up?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I mean the look, it's hope, you're selling hope. You
got a bunch of young guys. You got Cunningham coming back.
You'll be at another draft pick. I tay you guys, ready, Yeah,
go ahead?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Paid Piston player is Bojon Bugdanovich. Yeah, I'm signed to
a four year, seventy three million dollar contract. No one
else on the Pistons makes more than twelve a season.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Or for seventy three All that to get killed by
John Wick with a book. Just think about that, man, man,
all that all that's.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
That's a different guy. That's Bulban.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
That's ah, that's right, there was Bulbon bubon with.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
The giant hands. Hey, can I have a handful of
your chips?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
That's right? Eighty percent of the bank. You know it's
not time yet doesn't matter. Oh I feel bad for you.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
I like that though you got bugged out of it. Yeah,
I'm well, and I got John.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Wickt and I come on, I got, I got everybody in. Well,
let's sing a few bars of dog Star Wall. We're
at it. Hey, congratulations, clearly Monty Williams is the big win.
Say here on the day we're all playing for second place.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
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if show out is not getting traded, as long as
the Angels are a couple of games over five hundred
and stay that way, no reason why we lose. He
will stay and Angel the rest of the season. On
the flip side of that is Dalvin Cook. If you
want one of the top number one running backs in
the NFL, just wait a couple more days, because sometime
(25:21):
after tomorrow, after June first, Dalvin Cook is going to
get released. You saw the statement today that Kevin O'Connell
made the head coach that Alexander Madison is is stepping
into a big three down running back role. The Vikings
air brushed Dalvin Cook out and put Alexander Madison in
(25:42):
on their screen on their on their Twitter banner. So, yeah,
Dalvin Cook is going to get post June first cut,
and he is going to be out there for a
lot of teams to get and for a guy who's
twenty seven and has functioned well as a number one
running back, yeah, I got a lot of interest in
this guy. For the next couple of years. I don't know.
He's had a lot of carries. So at two more years,
(26:04):
at two years after this, I don't know that I
want him. But this year, next year, yeah, give me
some Dalvin Cook. A guy that can average between four
and a half and five yards of carry and finds
the end zone, not many guys have functioned like a
number one running back as he hasn't. Still twenty seven,
twenty eight years old, He's got some gas left in
the tank. Man. I'd be all in on Dalvin Cook
for the next two years.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
But now it's tough for Alexander Madison. Say we can
do musical theater when we take over.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
You can do that. You know, how has that not
worked yet? As a sports talk radio So many formats
have worked. How about sports talk musical theater? How's that
not going? Well?
Speaker 3 (26:40):
We can make that work. I mean, look, there's enough
teams of writers. I mean, someone's got to have some.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Lists. Love the Sin, hate the Sinner. I think we
could make that work. But yeah, Dalvin Cook not done.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
But as we know with the running back position, and
it was a big story I think was yesterday Christian
McCaffrey kind of talking about being undervalued and you should
really take care of and love running backs and all
this stuff. That's all find and good, but you've seen
winning team after winning team, big time runs to Super Bowls,
(27:16):
where you've had committee situations and oftentime, the guy who
becomes the lead in those situations when it matters is
not the guy anybody would have expected, right, rookies, undrafted guys,
you name it. It's been a very good move by
front offices to Yes, you invest some in that roster
(27:42):
slot and in the running back room, but the game
is played elsewhere. You need more guys and rotation to
rush the quarterback, and more guys in a rotation to
protect yours.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
If you are looking at the destination for him, And
already the Cowboys have mentioned a lot Dalvin Cood Cowboys. Okay, well,
you have Tony Pollard who's been pretty good. Either he's
coming back or he's not. You didn't address running back
in the draft, so I have to think the Cowboys
feel pretty good about.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Rob They did grab that guy whose dad was a true.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
They did, but it's not like they traded up to
get Jamiir Gibbs, you know, like we need a guy.
So I it seems like you have to look at
teams that seem like they're feeling good about their running
back position. Right, So, so, and I think the Cowboys
feel good. But I'll give you three teams that he
can either keep at the top or put over the top. Right,
(28:36):
he can keep the Chiefs at the top, they've been
looking for something and boy would he fit in awesome right,
they've been looking for something out of their running backs.
But check go and Edwards Hilaire. They didn't put up
his optionect is your guy, but I keep them at
the top. He would put the Bengals over the top
(28:58):
one hundred percent because that's exactly mixing. You know who
knows about what his future is gonna be. But those
in GP rynds so he could make the Rams back
into a playoff contender. Those are the three teams I'd
look out for Dalla ram It, Bengals and the Rams.
That's where That's where I would go if I was
one of those teams, That's what I'd be looking for
(29:18):
him for the next two years. One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I'll stick with cam Akers and and Hope he's still motivated.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
He and Henderson because they make nothing. Ah, that's too
much hope. Give me, give me somebody who's done it
too much. Help Mike Harbon, you're full of too much positivity.
Now you've come full circle. This entire hour. We got
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