June 14, 2024 • 39 mins
Jason and Mike debate if Trevor Lawrence is really worth $275 million. Jason explains why Danny Hurley was NEVER going to take the Lakers job. And Brian Windhorst goes scorched earth on Luka Doncic!
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have lots of stuff to get to. Danny Hurley speaks.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
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Speaker 1 (02:39):
We had a seismic NFL story break a couple of
hours ago, and I gotta say, I if you asked me,
I said, I knew this was coming, and I knew
it was a bad idea, and it's a bad idea.
Trevor Lawrence has just gotten absolutely paid because he was
a studded class. Lawrence gets a five year, two hundred
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and seventy five million dollar contract extension. Two hundred million
dollars of it is guaranteed one hundred and forty two
million dollars at signing bonus. The average salary when you
when you when it divide it all up, fifty five
million dollars a year. That ties in with Joe Burrow
for the top mark in that category in the NFL.
So the two quarterbacks now who have set the quarterback
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market are Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence. So let's examine
this for a second shot before I tell you again
what a bad idea this was for the Jaguars. Joe Burrow,
I get it right, guy went to the Super Bowl.
He is that good. His problem is staying on the field.
That's gonna be the question mark. But if Joe Burrow
was the guy, because look, when guys come up and
they're worthy, they set the market. That's kind of how
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it goes. Trevor Lawrence, I mean really, I think he's
getting paid because the Jaguars think he's coming out of
Clemson and he's going to be great. It's like, let's
ignore the fact that the first three years of his
career he's it's.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Been okay, Well, the first year doesn't count, right, he's
been on it. You were with urban Meyer and that
train wreck he's come on. Urban Meyer was perhaps the
worst head coach since Code Tight he national whoa, whoa,
Wait a minute, now, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't care. Hang on, I don't care. I'll say
it water, hang on. No, code Tite was worse. Okay,
all right. I had to go back and fig I
had to go back to think about it for a second,
because you know what comes back to It comes back
to code Tite. Not because the Jets were so awful
on the field, but he was the guy that cast
the vote. When they said we're coming up in the draft.
The scouts are split, do we take Altun or Jerry Rice?
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And he said, take Altune out of Wisconsin. Jerry Rice,
I don't know that he can get separation at the
next level. So the Jets took Altune. All right, that's
why it's Coe Tite. Forget about one in fifteen, forget
about all that. He was the one that said, no,
I would take Altune, So they took Altune.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Five hundred and seventeen career receptions atune yards. Altune was
really good. We had a good career, a couple of
thousand yard seasons and nearly missed the third time. Dude.
Altuon was good.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
We missed on the best wide receiver in the history.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Trying. I'm trying here because if you're gonna put that
up ast, you know the hallmark of why this is
a disaster. The guy he picked actually was pretty damn
good by the guy normally let's see, Hey, that guy
sucked and was washed out of the league in you know,
eight games, and his name was Altune. Yeah, yeah, no,
that's normally how it goes with the Jets. And they
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did yell tune every time he caught it past.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
And then they benched their guy named Nathaniel Hocket.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Okay, okay, we'll get to that. We'll get We only
have we only have so much time for Jet for Jets. Here.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Look, Trevor Lawrence has just been Okay, he had a
he had a good twenty twenty two, which made you think, okay,
maybe he's turning the corner.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
He went from a twelve and seventeen a quarterback rating
of seventy, which is which is in the bottom five
of the league, and then he had a pretty good
second year. Okay, that's hey, Trevor Lawrence looks like he's
on the path of being that guy. The big playoff
win over the Chargers, it looked like Trevor Lawrence was next,
and last year he wasn't good.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He wasn't good. He was awful the last few weeks
of the regular season. That said, they were only helped
by the fact that the Eagles were such a disaster.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know twenty one and fourteen,
not that I'm sitting here and I am always beholding
two touchdowns and touchdown passes. And but you have to
be dyt if you're gonna get fifty five million dollars
a year, man, if you're gonna get three or four
million dollars a game, you gotta give me better than that. Man,
you gotta be better than a quarterback rating of eighty eight,
which puts him at twenty fourth overall in the NFL.
(06:40):
No matter how you slice it, he's just been okay.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And yet the Jaguars paid him like, hey, he's still
like these last three years don't matter.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It's like we're getting him brand new. When he was
a stud at Clemson, right, It's like, why Sammy Watkins.
They thought he was gonna be good for so long? Boy,
what a stud at Clemson? Sammy Watkins out. Sammy Watkins
was just turned out to be just a guy. Trevor
Lawrence is smack dab in the of quarterbacks in the
NFL right now. If you were saying, who do you
want for this next couple of seasons in the NFL,
Trevor Lawrence is in the middle. There are twelve to
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fourteen guys you would take over him, but he's getting
paid because he was supposed to be next and the
Jaguars still we don't want to lose him, We don't
want to start over. I understand that, but dude's got
to understand where he is in the NFL. All right, Yes,
we won the playoff game against the Chargers two years ago.
That was awesome, What a great comeback. But look at
what you've done. Man, You've not been good. You have
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not been good. You have been just about league average
at best. I'm not gonna give you fifty five million
doll What are you insane giving him that cut?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Fifty five million dollars a year?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Hey, the rest of the quarterbacks the NFL are happy
because they're like, hey, if Trevor Lawrence gets fifty five million, man,
that couldna get like ninety. The owners aren't happy because
wait a minute, Trevor Lawrence is setting the bar here
again at fifty five million. But this contract he is
way overpaid. And not that it's my money, right, because
I want to say it's not my money. That all
jealous guys getting too much money is that you only
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have have so much money to pay for a team,
and you're trying to win.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You're trying to win the Super Bowl. And when you
have a guy taking up twenty to twenty five percent
of your of your salary cap, you.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Don't have room for the better players you're gonna need
to bring in. If you're giving a guy fifty five
million dollars, this guy's got to be a Pro Bowl,
all pro level quarterback.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Man. You can't just be some guy that, hey, he
can be a Pro Bowl replacement when three guys say
no because they're playing in the in the AFC playoffs.
I mean, like, this is a guy that I.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Don't know the next Pro Bowl he's even gonna make, right,
Like Trevor Wall, he's just not been good. He doesn't
take care of the football, he throws too many interceptions.
Like to pay the guy because he's league average, okay, great,
you want to extend him twenty five third, okay, But
to take up that amount of your salary cap is
just insane. And all you've done is make it more
impossible to keep good players because you need good players
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around him. He had the best wide receivers you could
possibly put around him. Last year you had Ridley back
from suspension. You had Christian Kirk who turned into a superstar.
You were on Christian Kirk from the beginning of the
year last year, how good he was. And still this
is where you're at now, right and Ingram coming out
what a great tight end he was. And you're coming
off a year where hey, in sixteen games, twenty one touchdowns,
fourteen picks. This is not fifty five million dollars a year, man,
(09:14):
this is I looked at this and I just said, wow,
this is a mistake. I said, just blinking in red
Light's a mistake. Mistake, mistake, that's his whole thing.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Well, I look at it as here's where the market
is at this point in time. And rather than play
and time the market, which is you know, any financial
advisor will tell you bad idea. You're ready to buy
a house, You're ready to buy a house down. I
don't try to time the market. You'd like a stock
look at where it's at. Don't try to play the
games that it's going to go up or down some greatness.
(09:42):
Get after it, right, you know you fell in love
with that boy or girl down the street. Maybe you
know you shared a cupcake during fifth period. I don't
know it. Now's the time to say, wait, wait, wait,
how are you cupcakes during fifth period? Okay? Good? You
know what I mean? Like all on that stuff, and
for this purpose. You know, we know this. The salary
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cap keeps rising. He's not gonna be any cheaper a
year from now. He's been good in spots. Would you
have a three to one touchdown to interception ratio the
year prior Last year was just an unmitigated disaster down
the stretch. They could write books or maybe Netflix will
do a documentary on them too. Seeing you like, he
was just straight lighting up.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's not like he had he had an average year
and then had a works final.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
No, like he was fine, right, he was fine the
year before. But like you know, I'm just saying all in.
The quarterback position is the one where logic gets thrown
out the window man, and it always has and it
always will. Like all the quarterbacks that are standing around
waiting are excited Jerry Jones, you know the he was
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really excited about Dallas losing yesterday and being on the
verge of being swept. He ain't so excited anymore after
seeing Trevor Lawrence get this pot of cash. Four thousand year,
four thousand yards, twenty one and fourteen. As you said,
uh completed about two thirds of his past attempts, so solid,
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not spectacular, but where the market is, and out of
that draft class in twenty twenty one, he's the last
man standing too, right in terms of what that next
wave of guys that we're gonna be to get paid.
Jacksonville just looked at it. Said, from the pragmatism standpoint
is does he have room to grow? Twenty four years old,
gonna turn twenty five in October? Okay, Yes, he's got
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a couple of years in the system. Check. We've got
some players around him, so we should be better. Check
and going forward, are we gonna be bad enough to
where we can find ourselves another Trevor Lawrence? The answer
is no. But when you get at Trevor Lawrence, you're
talking about can you get a league average quarterback somewhere?
Because that's what he's been right. Well, but the point
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is that your quarterback. But the point is you're not
gonna be drafting high enough to go find even his
replacement at this point of got Kirk you want to
pay money? You could have got Kirk Cousins, Well, no,
I want it. Well, yeah, you could go get Kirk Cousins,
particularly if the league's only gonna find you two hundred
and fifty k it's almost a half ass third day pick.
Are you kidding me? We tampered with nine guys. Here's
(12:14):
our penalty? Half fad? What what kind of league officer
are we running? Now?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
But you can go get a guy that's gonna get
there's no shortage of players that can go twenty one
and fourteen and throw for four thousand yards there. You
can get that from Gardner Minshew a guy and all
you gotta do is pay him in sandwiches and jorts
and that's all.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's not a bad round and hair product. That's just
like Trevor. Oh okay, you know that's that's gonna be
a wash, buddy, Yeah, no, no wash. You're right.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I would give him the hair product. I'd throw that
in at the end and say, okay, but that's it.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
This is the end. Like there's no more.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I mean, there's no you can get that from Derek Carr.
You get even more than from that from Derek Carr.
Derek Carr is not really any good like you I
could I He's Mayfield, Baker Mayfield has already had a
better season last year year. Then then Trevor Lawrence has
had his first three years. Like it's like we project him.
The idea of Trevor Lawrence seems better than it is.
It's like you gotta start paying attention, man, Like this
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is this is not a guy that's rewriting.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
The record books. This is not saying he is.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
This is not a guy who suddenly is, hey, we're
winning division year after year after years.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
This guy's not doing any of that. He's not doing
any now. He's solid, not spectacular, has had moments where
you think maybe it's gonna start to click. I'm just
saying it's it's it's just pure economics and where the
market is. Uh. And you could have said no and
then you can play the game on franchise tags and
(13:39):
whatever else. Jason. But you know when when this was
announced and Frosburg sent us the cool Trevor Lawrence little meme.
You know, the immediate is like looking at the numbers,
and I started to just ponder. It's like is this
good for the company, And for a moment, I'm like,
I don't know that it is. But it's settled right,
and now you might.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
There's only one man responsible for all this. There's only
one man man. Laurence should be thinking, who's that, Brandon Staley?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That that is well done? Well, you want to.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You gotta thank Frank Gore too, on his way out
of the NFL. No, I'm gonna make sure on this
big fourth down, I get it so I don't have
to worry about Trevor Lawrence going to the Jets.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Uh, Frank Gore. The gift of Frank Gore I could
still see.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
You know, there's certain things in sports I will always
see in my mind.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
There's certainly like I'm gonna see that Andrew Nempard miracle
three pointer and Tyrese Halliburton walking around like he was
just healed and he just he just stood up out
of a wheelchair, like I'm gonna see that for a
long time. I am gonna see Frank Gore catching the
football and falling backwards over the first doubt marker to
clinch that game and be saying we're not getting Trevor Lawrence,
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just falling.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Here's my gift. I'm forty eight years old. I'm going
this isn't my lads gift to you? He here you go?
Hope You'll okay, that's fair. I will send you that
police You didn't have to pay him.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh man, I'll tell you. Uh yeah, you're right. No,
you're right, You're right, Alice, you don't have to pay it.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's okay, that's okay. We had sucked worry about wherever
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I mean I always know. Hey, come on, man, come on,
I shirt this. But Alex is there. I mean, he
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Probably something to that now. I'm still undefeated in the
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He doesn't know that for a fact. He just knows
it's true, right exactly.
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It's like Bill Mark and so I said, I said,
that's all you got tight, that's all you have to say,
that's all you have. You is never we're coming back.
And I said, okay. He says your MIC's on, and
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Any other song in the world? How about that? Any
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Not until you apologize.
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I apologize for what you know, what you did? What
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How about a Fresco at Swollen Dome at Fox Sports?
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Ty Shirt doesn't remember stuff from ten minutes ago. He
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I'm not worried about it totally forgetting what we're even
talking about.
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Alex, Alex, could you please tell us in your own
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Yes, I can't what when? Oh?
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No, I can't. That was that was too long ago? Yeah,
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Miss to tops. Now you're talking.
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I think he's talking to you.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
So today off day before we potentially see the NBA Finals,
and tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
With Game four, and we'll get into Luca coming up
in a bit. But today belonged to Danny Hurley, the
Yukon head coach who made the rounds and talked about
how he decided to stay at Yukon, spurning the Lakers
offer that would have paid him over seventy million dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And he's appeared on a couple of place day.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Was on the Herd with Colin Coward earlier today and said,
oh no, wait a minute, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I didn't use the Lakers as leverage to.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Get more money at I didn't do that at all,
even though my contract, you know, they talked about making
me the highest paid coach in the in all of
college basketball, and the governor of the state actually weighed
in on that, you know, the night that we were
debating it, So I don't want to say that he
said that they was no leverage play and he simply
couldn't resist going back to Yukon to try to win
(20:59):
a third champion.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I was really excited about the job. I mean for
us right now we've started practice with our you know,
with our current team that's going to go for potentially
a three p But this was not a great time
for me to mess around or to go for a
leverage play. I already had the leverage back to back
national championships and the way that we're doing it and
(21:23):
putting players in the NBA and our culture and the
way we play ball. I mean, that's that's my leverage.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, Okay, you know what, Hey, well, truth, load of crap. Truth. Know,
we just got a load of crap from Danny Hurley
all day today.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, first of all, again, let me go back to
when he says, no, I'm staying at Yukon. The governor
of the state said we're going to make him the
highest paid coach in all of college basketball. If it
wasn't a leverage play, we would have found out before now.
Danny Hurley all of a sudden, We wait, really three
days after it happened for him to say, oh, I
already had my contract, was already done. Oh really, so
(21:59):
there's no ex added this, nothing in the works for you,
nothing else you got over this, Danny Hurley. And again
I'm telling you he was never going to take the job.
He came out whether it was a curiosity, knowing full well,
I can use this as leverage to get whatever else
I want out of the University of Connecticut because everything
went well, Why would you say no? If everything went well,
(22:22):
you went to the Lakers, you said you were incredibly impressed. Right,
I was impressed by everything they had for me. I'd
be coaching Lebron James. It would have been a dream.
Everything was awesome. And the only thing he said was ah,
you know, but they didn't make me an offer. I
could have refused for the money. Oh so wait, so
seventy million wasn't enough. Now, I'll agree the Lakers could
have come up and if they really were smart, and
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this gets into the Lakers mismanaging things, they would have said,
we're gonna make you the highest paid coach in all
of the NBA. Right, that would you know, would that
have done it? Maybe, But it's not like they didn't
give him any like they tried to low ball, and
they're gonna make him the third highest paid coach in
the NBA. The only guys he's behind are coaches that
won four and five titles. I don't know why you
wouldn't say screw it. When you need a guy, you
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have to overpay, right, that's the strategy when you when
you're desperate, you overpay. But I get the whole thing. Hey,
you know you're not gonna get more than Pop. You're
not gonna get more than Steve Kerr. You're gonna get
right there at number three. So with all of this
going on, the money was surely there for Danny Hurley
to suddenly say, oh, they could have made me an
offer I can't refuse. So wait, there was no negotiation
at all, Like they made the offer and you just said,
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oh no, I'm saying no to this offer. You didn't say, hey,
I want more money. You know, I want one hundred
million dollars. There was no negotiation. That's why this is
a load of crap, Like, oh, like the only luck
they got an offer in writing and the Lakers said
take it or leave it, and you got to decide
in five minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
There's no negotiation at all. I don't believe anything. I
don't believe any of this at Danny Hurley, he used
the Lakers for whatever he's going to get and whatever
he wanted from University of Connecticut, this is what he's getting,
and he used the Lakers. He was never going to
take the job because everything went well. He liked the organization,
he liked the players. The money was.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
There, and he said, well, you know, they could have
given me a lot more money in that much. Oh yeah,
you're just making up a reason now to say no.
That makes it sound palatable and it's not, because if
the money truly wasn't there, you really couldn't. There was
no way. You went back to the Lakers said okay, hey,
I like this deal. We're in the ballpark for money.
We're in the ballpark. You know, five or seventy million
were in the ballpark. But instead of that, how about
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it's like eight and one hundred and ten, right, why
don't we do that? Why there was no other The
Lakers said no, no, we're drawing a line in the sand.
They wanted to be embarrassed, not getting dead, of course
not so. He's just he's reinventing things to try to
make it seem like I didn't just go out and
have a fun weekend in La come back for the
Billy Joel concert, decide to stay at the University of Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
He was never going to take the job. If he
was really conflicted, it would have been more than a day, right,
It would have been more than a day for him
to say, Okay, you know what, boy, I really might
might have to take this job. Because he went home
and gave himself a self imposed deadline, right one day
deadline I got to decide by the next day.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Was you con telling them they had to decide in
the day? Did the Lakers say we need you decide?
Speaker 7 (24:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
He decided I'm going to do this in the day.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Why because he was going to say no if he
was If there was ever any question, it would be
I got to think about this for a couple of days.
I got to think about this, I got to talk
to my wife about it. For whatever reason, he was
never going to take this job. And the Lakers got
used by a guy who came out for a weekend
and you put all your eggs in his basket, and
he turned away from a gig he was never going
to say yes to.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, it's it's funny, right, it's still trying to figure
out the pie chart. I don't think it's all leverage,
but I certainly think it was a long shot for
the Lakers. A little sidelight was that, you know, Lebron
wasn't there talked, but in the text that they did have,
he said, well, if I'm there in Los Angeles, you'll
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have my full support. It's like, wait a minute, So
he opened the door. So now we get to speculate
about Lebron and where he's gonna end up, and we'll
get those thought pieces.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Mike, but actually texted after today.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Can you No, I don't believe anything. A lot of
what Hurley's thrown out out here. I'm not buying right
because he uh, he did Colin. He was on with
LeBatard as well, and he said, well, quote nil staff salaries,
different things that I wanted adjusted that I'm still not
comfortable with. Like I way, we've talked about this before.
(26:16):
He used the analogy trying to explain this to my
daughters a little bit before because they were asking what
was what was gonna be one of the stories tonight,
Like you can have, you know, everything you want in
a quarter, right, you meet all objectives. And for everybody
out there, right you're selling widgets, maybe this is part
of your jobs. Whatever. Here, here's what you're supposed to
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have as an output, and you can meet all of that,
and like, that's pretty good. We did a good job.
Do you think they're increasing, you know, all all of
your expenditures and pushing forward. No, they're gonna try to
squeeze you. And you see if you can hit that
mark with a little bit less or a little more text,
right that that stuff just hey, let's pour over some
(26:59):
more money. You're gonna get multiple of two, three, four
times whatever. In this case, it was all right, I
may not need that multiple, but there's a bunch of
stuff that we can clean up here. There's still some
work to be done behind the scenes. Maybe a couple
more staffers here there. Whatever. His salary doesn't need to
balloon to one hundred million dollars, but he can do
(27:20):
some other things to make life easier as the pre
eminent college basketball coach for the Lakers. Yeah, you know,
the Godfather offer that's the quote that just keeps circulating
in all of this, and he even admitted it to that, right, Oh,
there might have been a number, yeah, maybe, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And that's where the Lakers could have made it if
you really want that, And that's where the Lakers didn't understand, Hey,
your brand is not what it was. If you want
you your break, you gotta think of yourself like the Jets, like,
if we want somebody, we got to overpay by so
much money because our brand is in the toilet. Like
that's how you should have Like you should have come
out and said, hey, you'll be the paid coach in
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the NBA more than Steve Kirk, more than Steve Kirk,
but that's more than Pop, more than Pop, more than Spolster,
more than Spolster. Like that might have done it. But
it's not like they gave him some offer and said, hey,
you haven't proven yourself in the NBA, so we're going
to give you a low ball deal. No, they're still
going to make him the third highest paid coach. But
I will say the Lakers could have gone high. They
could have gone higher to make it more.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
But you just have to recognize the market, right. Part
of it is what your brand currently is. The other
part is what this guy's history, what it's all about.
Could have read Win Horses book about his old man,
you know, and maybe done a couple of Google searches
about you know, family history, all of that stuff that
builds into this. Right you're leaving, you know, this dynastic
(28:41):
kind of run, and yeah, there's things to be tweaked,
hence the leverage, whatever percentage that was. But part of
him is curious. You know, at least you know was
gonna fly out and hear him out. But you know
the fact that you don't have the entire family traveling
with you and doing you know, multiple day is across
LA and Disneyland and whatever else. You know, it's a
(29:05):
short term a you know, come out and come out
to the coast, have a few laughs, let's let's talk
a little bit, and then he's back on a plane.
So how serious I did it get, I don't know.
But the reality is, you know, you got a guy
that you knew what was gonna take a mountain to
move him. And then he started telling stories about what
(29:25):
his wife had to say and whatever else, and you
know those might have been jurnatic, mean he might have
met with a script screenwriter while he was here for
those eighteen hours. How am I going to sell this
on the back end as to how she felt on
all of it? But yeah, it's saying that there was
no leverage in it and that wasn't the play. I
wish you weren't such a liar.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, I mean, I look, if there was, if there
was anything that tells me he would have come out,
like even if they offered that, he would have found
a way to say, no, well, the highest paid coach
and all of the NBA, but.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Third highs paid is not good enough. Really, really, third
highs paid is not good enough.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Like the optics of turning down being the highest paid
coach in the NBA that might have that might have.
I don't know that it would have, but it might have,
said there was by the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
But so much uncertainty though, Jason, because you know, if
if that Lebron exchange was legitimate, maybe maybe Lebron's not there,
So is it even you know, does it have any
appeal into short term other than a paycheck. We'll never know.
We'll never know.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
We'll never know because the Lakers didn't understand where they
really were as a franchise.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
They were still a little bit too. We're the Lakers.
He's gotta come down. No, no, No, you're the No,
you're the jets Man. You're the Jets.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
You gotta gotta gotta offer with If they're offering ten million,
we're offering twenty five million.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
You're the Jets. That's how you gotta do it. You know,
Frostburg's never gonna talk to you again.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Now, that might be the dumbest thing you ever said.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You called his team the jets Man.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Dude, Dude, it's a long list, but that might be
at the top.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Dude, are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Understand that you're gonna wind up with Doc Rivers when
it's all said and done. That's how it's gonna go.
Don't worry about it. You're gonna get Doc Rivers in.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Jon Aaron Rodgers. Okay, yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
As soon as I find out where Aaron Rodgers is,
I'll worry about him. But until then, it's over.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Worry about Hackett getting benched. Mini Camp.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Oh, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike
Harmon live from the ti iraq dot com studios. We
will have more on Danny Hurley coming up in the Lakers.
Now they're interviewing JJ Reddick, good.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Luck and Shams and Windy keep fighting but yes, coming.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Up next, the latest on Luka Doncic heading into Game four.
I'm not gonna say this is conspiracy theory, but I'm
gonna outline a scenario for you that you're gonna agree
with when it comes to Luca and the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
And Game three into Game four. That's next right here, Jason.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (31:57):
Oh, the duckman is at the prim and christy'sson wants
to dance with him and confetti is falling. I so
wanted that to be my prom. I so wanted pretty
in pink to be my prom. I'm like, oh, this
is what the problem's gonna be now, not at all,
not even You're not pretty in orange. No, hey, dude,
orange is a tough color to pull off. It's a
(32:17):
I realize it's a very difficult color pulloff. And I
don't go to a college prom, man.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I didn't go to Mike.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
We were actually maroon and white where our colors, well,
the fraternities and sororities, I mean still have prom like dances.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Then could have crashed one of those.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
But I'm just saying, but pretty in pink was you know,
it's a prom and it's duckman, it's hey, suddenly Christie's
wantson wants Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I've tried to sell the greatness of Crier. Now I
am more.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Sure that again to borrow from the great Bill Maher.
I don't know this for a fact, but I know
it's true that the Mavericks and Brian Windhorst teamed up
for their Luca intervention following Game three last night. Look,
we talked about this and then this broke very late
in the show. ESPN's Brian windhors has been a big
analyst for a long time and insider with the NBA.
(33:12):
He never takes on the players. He never talks about
players who need to be doing better, need to be
playing differently. But instead he went on a rant following
Game three less like saying things like you and I
sound basically saying what you and I had been saying
a lot about Luka Doncic. But here's Brian Windhorst, and
here he is just taking a blowtorch to Luka Doncic.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Last night, Luca and Kyrie combined for actually more than
Tate Brown did, but Luca fowls out late. I just
wonder your reaction to that whole sequence.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
Yeah, I thought it was perfect that Luca fell onto
the ground there in an unacceptable position to put himself
in with four minutes left with five fouls, and then
immediately looks at the bench and says, you better bleeping
challenge it, as if it's the bench's fault that he
just made a terrible play. I'm standing here in the
Mavericks tunnel. Over there is the Celtics tunnel. That's where
the win. If Lucas ever going to be a winner
(34:01):
coming out of this tunnel here, he is going to
have to use this have what's happened in this finals
as a learning experience. His defensive performance is unacceptable. He
is a hole on the court. The Celtics are attacking him.
They are ahead in this series because they have attacked
him defensively. And you've got a situation here where Lucas
complaining about the officiating. They have begged him, they have
talked with him, they have pleaded with him. He is
(34:23):
costing his team because of how he treats the officials.
He's a brilliant player, he does so many things. Well,
they are here because how he did His performance in
this game is unacceptable and the reason why the Mavericks
are not going to win.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
He's got to get over this.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
And the fact that he came out after the game
and blame the officials showed me he's nowhere close yet.
So maybe over the summer somebody will get to him,
because nobody with the Mavericks or anybody else in his
life has and that's where the Mavericks are at this point.
They're never going to get to this tunnel with the
trophy if he doesn't improve those aspects of his game.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
To my friend, okay, well if you just had a
little bit of a vocal inflection, he's frank to take.
He's not he's not. He's not a winner. He is
he is. The Mavericks said that he doesn't listen to
the Mavericks.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
It's fitting. He's on the floor, he's yelling at his team.
When this came out last night, we said this, this
is not Brian Windhorn. This is something where hey, this
is how the Mavericks feel about Luca, but we want
this message to come from someone else. So was there
a conversation, some sort of a because this is not
what Brian Windhorse does, And was this some sort of hey,
(35:32):
the Mavericks saying, Hey, this is what we would like
to say about him, but it's hard because we need
to maintain a great relationship with him. We can't tune
him out because he is that kind of talent. We
got here with him and he's part of our future.
So wind Horse says that last night, which is something
you know, the Mavericks all want, because Luca called everything
he said stuff we covered on the show last night,
(35:52):
so we could be NBA insiders misdirecting. So now we're
talking about him in this stuff instead of his few
with shams over early. So now today, what does Luka
Doncicch say, Hey, I can't be complaining about the referees
all the time, and I understand. I'm gonna go out
and have fun. That's what got us to winning, was
(36:13):
out there having fun. And I know that people don't
like when I complain. I have to change that. So
message received Now it's too late to most likely too
late to win the title this year. But all of this,
this is not suddenly Brian Windhors wanted to go on
television and just take Luca to the ground because he's
an insider, right, he wants to relationship with Luca. He
also wants to relationship with the Dallas Mavericks. All of
(36:34):
a sudden, he's gonna go on for no reason and
just absolutely trash Luca. And now this was Hey, we
would like to let now you didn't meet with you.
Now you've never heard it from me. It's like the
It's like the scene in the Spy movie where where
the two people meet in the park on the park
bench and one of them's feeding the pigeons and the
other one sits neck. They say, don't turn to me.
I'm gonna tell you what's going on. Then I'm gonna
get up and walk away. Like that's kind of how
(36:56):
I see.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
And they leaves that has an envelope under yeah, here
you go. Hey, read the story on page d three. Oh,
on page d three, like this, this is what I
see it again. I don't know this to you know,
to be a fact. I just know that it's true
because there's no way this wasn't something that was put
out there because suddenly, now today Luca gets the message
after hearing that last night Windhorse going viral with his
(37:19):
I'm suddenly turning into a hot take phenomenon. No, this
is exactly what the Mavericks wanted to get out there,
and it's just too late because everything went.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Everything he said was right. I mean, that's exactly what
Luca has been. But he's got a little too full
of himself, a little too full of hero ball, and
you had bad ideas with trying to create contact all
the time instead of scoring, and then you know, wanting
to complain about calls while the ball is going the
other way up the floor for the Celtics. So yeah,
there's nothing that's wrong here. This was just the message
that the Mavericks wanted out to Luca, and it looks
(37:47):
like the message was received.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, I know, you get it out through a guy
who never goes after players, right, don't don't bite the
hand that feeds you. You know, information guy suddenly isn't
he's he's kind of information while holding a flamethrower in
this right, It's like, well, because he could have just
said my sources, you know, around the Mavericks you know
(38:09):
this is the kind of thing. No, no, no, Instead
he went full on. You know, he's master of the
microphone in a WWE shoot interview, so that that's really
where for Windhorse and he got the message across. And
then they made Luca sit down and have that interview.
He didn't want to be there. It still comes back
(38:31):
to Michael Finley steeling his beer. You treat him like
a child. You know what you get, You get a child,
That's what you get. That's what you get. If you
want to make me feel like an infant, guess what,
I'm gonna throw a tantrum.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
You're gonna take my beer. I'm gonna take all the
shots that and complain against the referees. How about that,
Michael Finley, Glad you take my beer?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Then that's great. Exit out about a Fresca exit swelling done.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Coming up next, it is time to address the biggest
NFL story of the last couple of days.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
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walk off man. It's the Met's biggest winning the god dude.
Come on. I mean we celebrate him when he was
a Dodger and actually he's doing things for that were meaningful.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
But come on, man, Met, we're being no hit. There
are six innings by a guy with an era of seven.
Come he walked it off with j D.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Martinez. He was due. Hey you know what, Hey, man,
I'll tell you what he just said. We're gonna get
a lot more from the deadline. Now.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
That's all I think of now, is Hey, the better
the guy's played, the more we're gonna get at the deadline.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
How many guys can we sell off at the deadline?
I don't know.
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You get cele but over here we're celebrating the oilers
pooping their pants.
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Man, Hey, what an awful listen second pier.
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You can't celebrate for I saw a buster only Twitter account.
Otani's been banned from baseball for life.
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We got problems. Man, I keep waiting for the rest
of that story. I don't know where it is. I
keep waiting for that. There's no follow up which should
be a follow up.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
To that story somewhere, not a whole lot of Hey,
we screwed this up. One of why is employer didn't
really come to his defense either, though. Let's just say nothing.
Let's just say nothing. There. It's forty five minutes of
absolute chaos, brimstone and hell rais and dumpsters floating all
over this globe. Nah, nothing happened here.
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Well, we have a big night in the NBA. We
have lots of stuff to get to. Danny Hurley speaks.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
He said, no, I didn't know the Lakers oosit for
anything but what.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
We had a seismic NFL story break a couple of
hours ago, and I gotta say, I if you asked me,
I said, I knew this was coming, and I knew
it was a bad idea, and it's a bad idea.
Trevor Lawrence has just gotten absolutely paid because he was
a studded class. Lawrence gets a five year, two hundred
(03:04):
and seventy five million dollar contract extension. Two hundred million
dollars of it is guaranteed one hundred and forty two
million dollars at signing bonus. The average salary when you
when you when it divide it all up, fifty five
million dollars a year. That ties in with Joe Burrow
for the top mark in that category in the NFL.
So the two quarterbacks now who have set the quarterback
(03:24):
market are Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence. So let's examine
this for a second shot before I tell you again
what a bad idea this was for the Jaguars. Joe Burrow,
I get it right, guy went to the Super Bowl.
He is that good. His problem is staying on the field.
That's gonna be the question mark. But if Joe Burrow
was the guy, because look, when guys come up and
they're worthy, they set the market. That's kind of how
(03:45):
it goes. Trevor Lawrence, I mean really, I think he's
getting paid because the Jaguars think he's coming out of
Clemson and he's going to be great. It's like, let's
ignore the fact that the first three years of his
career he's it's.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Been okay, Well, the first year doesn't count, right, he's
been on it. You were with urban Meyer and that
train wreck he's come on. Urban Meyer was perhaps the
worst head coach since Code Tight he national whoa, whoa,
Wait a minute, now, wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I don't care. Hang on, I don't care. I'll say
it water, hang on. No, code Tite was worse. Okay,
all right. I had to go back and fig I
had to go back to think about it for a second,
because you know what comes back to It comes back
to code Tite. Not because the Jets were so awful
on the field, but he was the guy that cast
the vote. When they said we're coming up in the draft.
The scouts are split, do we take Altun or Jerry Rice?
(04:40):
And he said, take Altune out of Wisconsin. Jerry Rice,
I don't know that he can get separation at the
next level. So the Jets took Altune. All right, that's
why it's Coe Tite. Forget about one in fifteen, forget
about all that. He was the one that said, no,
I would take Altune, So they took Altune.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Five hundred and seventeen career receptions atune yards. Altune was
really good. We had a good career, a couple of
thousand yard seasons and nearly missed the third time. Dude.
Altuon was good.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
We missed on the best wide receiver in the history.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Trying. I'm trying here because if you're gonna put that
up ast, you know the hallmark of why this is
a disaster. The guy he picked actually was pretty damn
good by the guy normally let's see, Hey, that guy
sucked and was washed out of the league in you know,
eight games, and his name was Altune. Yeah, yeah, no,
that's normally how it goes with the Jets. And they
(05:30):
did yell tune every time he caught it past.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
And then they benched their guy named Nathaniel Hocket.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Okay, okay, we'll get to that. We'll get We only
have we only have so much time for Jet for Jets. Here.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Look, Trevor Lawrence has just been Okay, he had a
he had a good twenty twenty two, which made you think, okay,
maybe he's turning the corner.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
He went from a twelve and seventeen a quarterback rating
of seventy, which is which is in the bottom five
of the league, and then he had a pretty good
second year. Okay, that's hey, Trevor Lawrence looks like he's
on the path of being that guy. The big playoff
win over the Chargers, it looked like Trevor Lawrence was next,
and last year he wasn't good.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
He wasn't good. He was awful the last few weeks
of the regular season. That said, they were only helped
by the fact that the Eagles were such a disaster.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know twenty one and fourteen,
not that I'm sitting here and I am always beholding
two touchdowns and touchdown passes. And but you have to
be dyt if you're gonna get fifty five million dollars
a year, man, if you're gonna get three or four
million dollars a game, you gotta give me better than that. Man,
you gotta be better than a quarterback rating of eighty eight,
which puts him at twenty fourth overall in the NFL.
(06:40):
No matter how you slice it, he's just been okay.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
And yet the Jaguars paid him like, hey, he's still
like these last three years don't matter.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It's like we're getting him brand new. When he was
a stud at Clemson, right, It's like, why Sammy Watkins.
They thought he was gonna be good for so long? Boy,
what a stud at Clemson? Sammy Watkins out. Sammy Watkins
was just turned out to be just a guy. Trevor
Lawrence is smack dab in the of quarterbacks in the
NFL right now. If you were saying, who do you
want for this next couple of seasons in the NFL,
Trevor Lawrence is in the middle. There are twelve to
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fourteen guys you would take over him, but he's getting
paid because he was supposed to be next and the
Jaguars still we don't want to lose him, We don't
want to start over. I understand that, but dude's got
to understand where he is in the NFL. All right, Yes,
we won the playoff game against the Chargers two years ago.
That was awesome, What a great comeback. But look at
what you've done. Man, You've not been good. You have
(07:30):
not been good. You have been just about league average
at best. I'm not gonna give you fifty five million
doll What are you insane giving him that cut?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Fifty five million dollars a year?
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Hey, the rest of the quarterbacks the NFL are happy
because they're like, hey, if Trevor Lawrence gets fifty five million, man,
that couldna get like ninety. The owners aren't happy because
wait a minute, Trevor Lawrence is setting the bar here
again at fifty five million. But this contract he is
way overpaid. And not that it's my money, right, because
I want to say it's not my money. That all
jealous guys getting too much money is that you only
(07:59):
have have so much money to pay for a team,
and you're trying to win.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
You're trying to win the Super Bowl. And when you
have a guy taking up twenty to twenty five percent
of your of your salary cap, you.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Don't have room for the better players you're gonna need
to bring in. If you're giving a guy fifty five
million dollars, this guy's got to be a Pro Bowl,
all pro level quarterback.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Man. You can't just be some guy that, hey, he
can be a Pro Bowl replacement when three guys say
no because they're playing in the in the AFC playoffs.
I mean, like, this is a guy that I.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Don't know the next Pro Bowl he's even gonna make, right,
Like Trevor Wall, he's just not been good. He doesn't
take care of the football, he throws too many interceptions.
Like to pay the guy because he's league average, okay, great,
you want to extend him twenty five third, okay, But
to take up that amount of your salary cap is
just insane. And all you've done is make it more
impossible to keep good players because you need good players
(08:52):
around him. He had the best wide receivers you could
possibly put around him. Last year you had Ridley back
from suspension. You had Christian Kirk who turned into a superstar.
You were on Christian Kirk from the beginning of the
year last year, how good he was. And still this
is where you're at now, right and Ingram coming out
what a great tight end he was. And you're coming
off a year where hey, in sixteen games, twenty one touchdowns,
fourteen picks. This is not fifty five million dollars a year, man,
(09:14):
this is I looked at this and I just said, wow,
this is a mistake. I said, just blinking in red
Light's a mistake. Mistake, mistake, that's his whole thing.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Well, I look at it as here's where the market
is at this point in time. And rather than play
and time the market, which is you know, any financial
advisor will tell you bad idea. You're ready to buy
a house, You're ready to buy a house down. I
don't try to time the market. You'd like a stock
look at where it's at. Don't try to play the
games that it's going to go up or down some greatness.
(09:42):
Get after it, right, you know you fell in love
with that boy or girl down the street. Maybe you
know you shared a cupcake during fifth period. I don't
know it. Now's the time to say, wait, wait, wait,
how are you cupcakes during fifth period? Okay? Good? You
know what I mean? Like all on that stuff, and
for this purpose. You know, we know this. The salary
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cap keeps rising. He's not gonna be any cheaper a
year from now. He's been good in spots. Would you
have a three to one touchdown to interception ratio the
year prior Last year was just an unmitigated disaster down
the stretch. They could write books or maybe Netflix will
do a documentary on them too. Seeing you like, he
was just straight lighting up.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
It's not like he had he had an average year
and then had a works final.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
No, like he was fine, right, he was fine the
year before. But like you know, I'm just saying all in.
The quarterback position is the one where logic gets thrown
out the window man, and it always has and it
always will. Like all the quarterbacks that are standing around
waiting are excited Jerry Jones, you know the he was
(10:49):
really excited about Dallas losing yesterday and being on the
verge of being swept. He ain't so excited anymore after
seeing Trevor Lawrence get this pot of cash. Four thousand year,
four thousand yards, twenty one and fourteen. As you said,
uh completed about two thirds of his past attempts, so solid,
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not spectacular, but where the market is, and out of
that draft class in twenty twenty one, he's the last
man standing too, right in terms of what that next
wave of guys that we're gonna be to get paid.
Jacksonville just looked at it. Said, from the pragmatism standpoint
is does he have room to grow? Twenty four years old,
gonna turn twenty five in October? Okay, Yes, he's got
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a couple of years in the system. Check. We've got
some players around him, so we should be better. Check
and going forward, are we gonna be bad enough to
where we can find ourselves another Trevor Lawrence? The answer
is no. But when you get at Trevor Lawrence, you're
talking about can you get a league average quarterback somewhere?
Because that's what he's been right. Well, but the point
(11:53):
is that your quarterback. But the point is you're not
gonna be drafting high enough to go find even his
replacement at this point of got Kirk you want to
pay money? You could have got Kirk Cousins, Well, no,
I want it. Well, yeah, you could go get Kirk Cousins,
particularly if the league's only gonna find you two hundred
and fifty k it's almost a half ass third day pick.
Are you kidding me? We tampered with nine guys. Here's
(12:14):
our penalty? Half fad? What what kind of league officer
are we running? Now?
Speaker 1 (12:19):
But you can go get a guy that's gonna get
there's no shortage of players that can go twenty one
and fourteen and throw for four thousand yards there. You
can get that from Gardner Minshew a guy and all
you gotta do is pay him in sandwiches and jorts
and that's all.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's not a bad round and hair product. That's just
like Trevor. Oh okay, you know that's that's gonna be
a wash, buddy, Yeah, no, no wash. You're right.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I would give him the hair product. I'd throw that
in at the end and say, okay, but that's it.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
This is the end. Like there's no more.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I mean, there's no you can get that from Derek Carr.
You get even more than from that from Derek Carr.
Derek Carr is not really any good like you I
could I He's Mayfield, Baker Mayfield has already had a
better season last year year. Then then Trevor Lawrence has
had his first three years. Like it's like we project him.
The idea of Trevor Lawrence seems better than it is.
It's like you gotta start paying attention, man, Like this
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is this is not a guy that's rewriting.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
The record books. This is not saying he is.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
This is not a guy who suddenly is, hey, we're
winning division year after year after years.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
This guy's not doing any of that. He's not doing
any now. He's solid, not spectacular, has had moments where
you think maybe it's gonna start to click. I'm just
saying it's it's it's just pure economics and where the
market is. Uh. And you could have said no and
then you can play the game on franchise tags and
(13:39):
whatever else. Jason. But you know when when this was
announced and Frosburg sent us the cool Trevor Lawrence little meme.
You know, the immediate is like looking at the numbers,
and I started to just ponder. It's like is this
good for the company, And for a moment, I'm like,
I don't know that it is. But it's settled right,
and now you might.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
There's only one man responsible for all this. There's only
one man man. Laurence should be thinking, who's that, Brandon Staley?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
That that is well done? Well, you want to.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
You gotta thank Frank Gore too, on his way out
of the NFL. No, I'm gonna make sure on this
big fourth down, I get it so I don't have
to worry about Trevor Lawrence going to the Jets.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Uh, Frank Gore. The gift of Frank Gore I could
still see.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
You know, there's certain things in sports I will always
see in my mind.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
There's certainly like I'm gonna see that Andrew Nempard miracle
three pointer and Tyrese Halliburton walking around like he was
just healed and he just he just stood up out
of a wheelchair, like I'm gonna see that for a
long time. I am gonna see Frank Gore catching the
football and falling backwards over the first doubt marker to
clinch that game and be saying we're not getting Trevor Lawrence,
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just falling.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Here's my gift. I'm forty eight years old. I'm going
this isn't my lads gift to you? He here you go?
Hope You'll okay, that's fair. I will send you that
police You didn't have to pay him.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Oh man, I'll tell you. Uh yeah, you're right. No,
you're right, You're right, Alice, you don't have to pay it.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's okay, that's okay. We had sucked worry about wherever
in the world. Aaron Rodgers is right, now, that's absolutely fun. Exit.
How about a Fresca exit.
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Tears for Fears is the song that we when we
continue talking again, I know that I've upset him.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I mean I always know. Hey, come on, man, come on,
I shirt this. But Alex is there. I mean, he
got us started, and he had our volumes right, and
he was checking us and putting out a high professional effort.
What were you arguing about?
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We we were talking about the show, and and we
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show's easy.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
I could do the show easy.
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I said, oh, sorry, you and your nine minute anime podcast,
they're pretty easy. Hey do you have a Maga charges
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Right now? Oh, I could do your show, Jason.
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I'm telling you, Jason, if I open the show, Justin
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Speaker 3 (18:47):
Probably something to that now. I'm still undefeated in the
Grimace era.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
He doesn't know that for a fact. He just knows
it's true, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
It's like Bill Mark and so I said, I said,
that's all you got tight, that's all you have to say,
that's all you have. You is never we're coming back.
And I said, okay. He says your MIC's on, and
then I hear tears.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
From Yeah, what do you want me to do? In
ten seconds?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Any other song in the world? How about that? Any
other song?
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Not until you apologize.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I apologize for what you know, what you did? What
I did? Nothing, I remember that I did. What do
you think fuh that Smith did to ty Shirt ad?
How about a Fresco at Swollen Dome at Fox Sports?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Ty Shirt doesn't remember stuff from ten minutes ago. He
doesn't even pay attention to this show.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I'm not worried about it totally forgetting what we're even
talking about.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Alex, Alex, could you please tell us in your own
words what Jason's been said to you?
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Yes, I can't what when? Oh?
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No, I can't. That was that was too long ago? Yeah,
it's too long between the trial and what happened. That's
that's like a year.
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I don't remember any of it, not, not at all,
none of it. Remember when you told the officers this no,
this case is almost five years old.
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When I bang on your foot and say hello, mister Thompson,
you say how are you hello?
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Miss to tops. Now you're talking.
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I think he's talking to you.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
So today off day before we potentially see the NBA Finals,
and tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
With Game four, and we'll get into Luca coming up
in a bit. But today belonged to Danny Hurley, the
Yukon head coach who made the rounds and talked about
how he decided to stay at Yukon, spurning the Lakers
offer that would have paid him over seventy million dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
And he's appeared on a couple of place day.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Was on the Herd with Colin Coward earlier today and said,
oh no, wait a minute, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I didn't use the Lakers as leverage to.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Get more money at I didn't do that at all,
even though my contract, you know, they talked about making
me the highest paid coach in the in all of
college basketball, and the governor of the state actually weighed
in on that, you know, the night that we were
debating it, So I don't want to say that he
said that they was no leverage play and he simply
couldn't resist going back to Yukon to try to win
(20:59):
a third champion.
Speaker 7 (21:00):
I was really excited about the job. I mean for
us right now we've started practice with our you know,
with our current team that's going to go for potentially
a three p But this was not a great time
for me to mess around or to go for a
leverage play. I already had the leverage back to back
national championships and the way that we're doing it and
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putting players in the NBA and our culture and the
way we play ball. I mean, that's that's my leverage.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, Okay, you know what, Hey, well, truth, load of crap. Truth. Know,
we just got a load of crap from Danny Hurley
all day today.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, first of all, again, let me go back to
when he says, no, I'm staying at Yukon. The governor
of the state said we're going to make him the
highest paid coach in all of college basketball. If it
wasn't a leverage play, we would have found out before now.
Danny Hurley all of a sudden, We wait, really three
days after it happened for him to say, oh, I
already had my contract, was already done. Oh really, so
(21:59):
there's no ex added this, nothing in the works for you,
nothing else you got over this, Danny Hurley. And again
I'm telling you he was never going to take the job.
He came out whether it was a curiosity, knowing full well,
I can use this as leverage to get whatever else
I want out of the University of Connecticut because everything
went well, Why would you say no? If everything went well,
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you went to the Lakers, you said you were incredibly impressed. Right,
I was impressed by everything they had for me. I'd
be coaching Lebron James. It would have been a dream.
Everything was awesome. And the only thing he said was ah,
you know, but they didn't make me an offer. I
could have refused for the money. Oh so wait, so
seventy million wasn't enough. Now, I'll agree the Lakers could
have come up and if they really were smart, and
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this gets into the Lakers mismanaging things, they would have said,
we're gonna make you the highest paid coach in all
of the NBA. Right, that would you know, would that
have done it? Maybe, But it's not like they didn't
give him any like they tried to low ball, and
they're gonna make him the third highest paid coach in
the NBA. The only guys he's behind are coaches that
won four and five titles. I don't know why you
wouldn't say screw it. When you need a guy, you
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have to overpay, right, that's the strategy when you when
you're desperate, you overpay. But I get the whole thing. Hey,
you know you're not gonna get more than Pop. You're
not gonna get more than Steve Kerr. You're gonna get
right there at number three. So with all of this
going on, the money was surely there for Danny Hurley
to suddenly say, oh, they could have made me an
offer I can't refuse. So wait, there was no negotiation
at all, Like they made the offer and you just said,
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oh no, I'm saying no to this offer. You didn't say, hey,
I want more money. You know, I want one hundred
million dollars. There was no negotiation. That's why this is
a load of crap, Like, oh, like the only luck
they got an offer in writing and the Lakers said
take it or leave it, and you got to decide
in five minutes.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
There's no negotiation at all. I don't believe anything. I
don't believe any of this at Danny Hurley, he used
the Lakers for whatever he's going to get and whatever
he wanted from University of Connecticut, this is what he's getting,
and he used the Lakers. He was never going to
take the job because everything went well. He liked the organization,
he liked the players. The money was.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
There, and he said, well, you know, they could have
given me a lot more money in that much. Oh yeah,
you're just making up a reason now to say no.
That makes it sound palatable and it's not, because if
the money truly wasn't there, you really couldn't. There was
no way. You went back to the Lakers said okay, hey,
I like this deal. We're in the ballpark for money.
We're in the ballpark. You know, five or seventy million
were in the ballpark. But instead of that, how about
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it's like eight and one hundred and ten, right, why
don't we do that? Why there was no other The
Lakers said no, no, we're drawing a line in the sand.
They wanted to be embarrassed, not getting dead, of course
not so. He's just he's reinventing things to try to
make it seem like I didn't just go out and
have a fun weekend in La come back for the
Billy Joel concert, decide to stay at the University of Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
He was never going to take the job. If he
was really conflicted, it would have been more than a day, right,
It would have been more than a day for him
to say, Okay, you know what, boy, I really might
might have to take this job. Because he went home
and gave himself a self imposed deadline, right one day
deadline I got to decide by the next day.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Was you con telling them they had to decide in
the day? Did the Lakers say we need you decide?
Speaker 7 (24:58):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
He decided I'm going to do this in the day.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Why because he was going to say no if he
was If there was ever any question, it would be
I got to think about this for a couple of days.
I got to think about this, I got to talk
to my wife about it. For whatever reason, he was
never going to take this job. And the Lakers got
used by a guy who came out for a weekend
and you put all your eggs in his basket, and
he turned away from a gig he was never going
to say yes to.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yeah, it's it's funny, right, it's still trying to figure
out the pie chart. I don't think it's all leverage,
but I certainly think it was a long shot for
the Lakers. A little sidelight was that, you know, Lebron
wasn't there talked, but in the text that they did have,
he said, well, if I'm there in Los Angeles, you'll
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have my full support. It's like, wait a minute, So
he opened the door. So now we get to speculate
about Lebron and where he's gonna end up, and we'll
get those thought pieces.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Mike, but actually texted after today.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Can you No, I don't believe anything. A lot of
what Hurley's thrown out out here. I'm not buying right
because he uh, he did Colin. He was on with
LeBatard as well, and he said, well, quote nil staff salaries,
different things that I wanted adjusted that I'm still not
comfortable with. Like I way, we've talked about this before.
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He used the analogy trying to explain this to my
daughters a little bit before because they were asking what
was what was gonna be one of the stories tonight,
Like you can have, you know, everything you want in
a quarter, right, you meet all objectives. And for everybody
out there, right you're selling widgets, maybe this is part
of your jobs. Whatever. Here, here's what you're supposed to
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have as an output, and you can meet all of that,
and like, that's pretty good. We did a good job.
Do you think they're increasing, you know, all all of
your expenditures and pushing forward. No, they're gonna try to
squeeze you. And you see if you can hit that
mark with a little bit less or a little more text,
right that that stuff just hey, let's pour over some
(26:59):
more money. You're gonna get multiple of two, three, four
times whatever. In this case, it was all right, I
may not need that multiple, but there's a bunch of
stuff that we can clean up here. There's still some
work to be done behind the scenes. Maybe a couple
more staffers here there. Whatever. His salary doesn't need to
balloon to one hundred million dollars, but he can do
(27:20):
some other things to make life easier as the pre
eminent college basketball coach for the Lakers. Yeah, you know,
the Godfather offer that's the quote that just keeps circulating
in all of this, and he even admitted it to that, right, Oh,
there might have been a number, yeah, maybe, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And that's where the Lakers could have made it if
you really want that, And that's where the Lakers didn't understand, Hey,
your brand is not what it was. If you want
you your break, you gotta think of yourself like the Jets, like,
if we want somebody, we got to overpay by so
much money because our brand is in the toilet. Like
that's how you should have Like you should have come
out and said, hey, you'll be the paid coach in
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the NBA more than Steve Kirk, more than Steve Kirk,
but that's more than Pop, more than Pop, more than Spolster,
more than Spolster. Like that might have done it. But
it's not like they gave him some offer and said, hey,
you haven't proven yourself in the NBA, so we're going
to give you a low ball deal. No, they're still
going to make him the third highest paid coach. But
I will say the Lakers could have gone high. They
could have gone higher to make it more.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
But you just have to recognize the market, right. Part
of it is what your brand currently is. The other
part is what this guy's history, what it's all about.
Could have read Win Horses book about his old man,
you know, and maybe done a couple of Google searches
about you know, family history, all of that stuff that
builds into this. Right you're leaving, you know, this dynastic
(28:41):
kind of run, and yeah, there's things to be tweaked,
hence the leverage, whatever percentage that was. But part of
him is curious. You know, at least you know was
gonna fly out and hear him out. But you know
the fact that you don't have the entire family traveling
with you and doing you know, multiple day is across
LA and Disneyland and whatever else. You know, it's a
(29:05):
short term a you know, come out and come out
to the coast, have a few laughs, let's let's talk
a little bit, and then he's back on a plane.
So how serious I did it get, I don't know.
But the reality is, you know, you got a guy
that you knew what was gonna take a mountain to
move him. And then he started telling stories about what
(29:25):
his wife had to say and whatever else, and you
know those might have been jurnatic, mean he might have
met with a script screenwriter while he was here for
those eighteen hours. How am I going to sell this
on the back end as to how she felt on
all of it? But yeah, it's saying that there was
no leverage in it and that wasn't the play. I
wish you weren't such a liar.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, I mean, I look, if there was, if there
was anything that tells me he would have come out,
like even if they offered that, he would have found
a way to say, no, well, the highest paid coach
and all of the NBA, but.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Third highs paid is not good enough. Really, really, third
highs paid is not good enough.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Like the optics of turning down being the highest paid
coach in the NBA that might have that might have.
I don't know that it would have, but it might have,
said there was by the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
But so much uncertainty though, Jason, because you know, if
if that Lebron exchange was legitimate, maybe maybe Lebron's not there,
So is it even you know, does it have any
appeal into short term other than a paycheck. We'll never know.
We'll never know.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
We'll never know because the Lakers didn't understand where they
really were as a franchise.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
They were still a little bit too. We're the Lakers.
He's gotta come down. No, no, No, you're the No,
you're the jets Man. You're the Jets.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
You gotta gotta gotta offer with If they're offering ten million,
we're offering twenty five million.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
You're the Jets. That's how you gotta do it. You know,
Frostburg's never gonna talk to you again.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Now, that might be the dumbest thing you ever said.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
You called his team the jets Man.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
Dude, Dude, it's a long list, but that might be
at the top.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Dude, are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Understand that you're gonna wind up with Doc Rivers when
it's all said and done. That's how it's gonna go.
Don't worry about it. You're gonna get Doc Rivers in.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Jon Aaron Rodgers. Okay, yeah, I do.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
As soon as I find out where Aaron Rodgers is,
I'll worry about him. But until then, it's over.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Worry about Hackett getting benched. Mini Camp.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Oh, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike
Harmon live from the ti iraq dot com studios. We
will have more on Danny Hurley coming up in the Lakers.
Now they're interviewing JJ Reddick, good.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Luck and Shams and Windy keep fighting but yes, coming.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Up next, the latest on Luka Doncic heading into Game four.
I'm not gonna say this is conspiracy theory, but I'm
gonna outline a scenario for you that you're gonna agree
with when it comes to Luca and the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
And Game three into Game four. That's next right here, Jason.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Oh, the duckman is at the prim and christy'sson wants
to dance with him and confetti is falling. I so
wanted that to be my prom. I so wanted pretty
in pink to be my prom. I'm like, oh, this
is what the problem's gonna be now, not at all,
not even You're not pretty in orange. No, hey, dude,
orange is a tough color to pull off. It's a
(32:17):
I realize it's a very difficult color pulloff. And I
don't go to a college prom, man.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
I didn't go to Mike.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
We were actually maroon and white where our colors, well,
the fraternities and sororities, I mean still have prom like dances.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Then could have crashed one of those.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
But I'm just saying, but pretty in pink was you know,
it's a prom and it's duckman, it's hey, suddenly Christie's
wantson wants Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
I've tried to sell the greatness of Crier. Now I
am more.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Sure that again to borrow from the great Bill Maher.
I don't know this for a fact, but I know
it's true that the Mavericks and Brian Windhorst teamed up
for their Luca intervention following Game three last night. Look,
we talked about this and then this broke very late
in the show. ESPN's Brian windhors has been a big
analyst for a long time and insider with the NBA.
(33:12):
He never takes on the players. He never talks about
players who need to be doing better, need to be
playing differently. But instead he went on a rant following
Game three less like saying things like you and I
sound basically saying what you and I had been saying
a lot about Luka Doncic. But here's Brian Windhorst, and
here he is just taking a blowtorch to Luka Doncic.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Last night, Luca and Kyrie combined for actually more than
Tate Brown did, but Luca fowls out late. I just
wonder your reaction to that whole sequence.
Speaker 8 (33:40):
Yeah, I thought it was perfect that Luca fell onto
the ground there in an unacceptable position to put himself
in with four minutes left with five fouls, and then
immediately looks at the bench and says, you better bleeping
challenge it, as if it's the bench's fault that he
just made a terrible play. I'm standing here in the
Mavericks tunnel. Over there is the Celtics tunnel. That's where
the win. If Lucas ever going to be a winner
(34:01):
coming out of this tunnel here, he is going to
have to use this have what's happened in this finals
as a learning experience. His defensive performance is unacceptable. He
is a hole on the court. The Celtics are attacking him.
They are ahead in this series because they have attacked
him defensively. And you've got a situation here where Lucas
complaining about the officiating. They have begged him, they have
talked with him, they have pleaded with him. He is
(34:23):
costing his team because of how he treats the officials.
He's a brilliant player, he does so many things. Well,
they are here because how he did His performance in
this game is unacceptable and the reason why the Mavericks
are not going to win.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
He's got to get over this.
Speaker 8 (34:36):
And the fact that he came out after the game
and blame the officials showed me he's nowhere close yet.
So maybe over the summer somebody will get to him,
because nobody with the Mavericks or anybody else in his
life has and that's where the Mavericks are at this point.
They're never going to get to this tunnel with the
trophy if he doesn't improve those aspects of his game.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
To my friend, okay, well if you just had a
little bit of a vocal inflection, he's frank to take.
He's not he's not. He's not a winner. He is
he is. The Mavericks said that he doesn't listen to
the Mavericks.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
It's fitting. He's on the floor, he's yelling at his team.
When this came out last night, we said this, this
is not Brian Windhorn. This is something where hey, this
is how the Mavericks feel about Luca, but we want
this message to come from someone else. So was there
a conversation, some sort of a because this is not
what Brian Windhorse does, And was this some sort of hey,
(35:32):
the Mavericks saying, Hey, this is what we would like
to say about him, but it's hard because we need
to maintain a great relationship with him. We can't tune
him out because he is that kind of talent. We
got here with him and he's part of our future.
So wind Horse says that last night, which is something
you know, the Mavericks all want, because Luca called everything
he said stuff we covered on the show last night,
(35:52):
so we could be NBA insiders misdirecting. So now we're
talking about him in this stuff instead of his few
with shams over early. So now today, what does Luka
Doncicch say, Hey, I can't be complaining about the referees
all the time, and I understand. I'm gonna go out
and have fun. That's what got us to winning, was
(36:13):
out there having fun. And I know that people don't
like when I complain. I have to change that. So
message received Now it's too late to most likely too
late to win the title this year. But all of this,
this is not suddenly Brian Windhors wanted to go on
television and just take Luca to the ground because he's
an insider, right, he wants to relationship with Luca. He
also wants to relationship with the Dallas Mavericks. All of
(36:34):
a sudden, he's gonna go on for no reason and
just absolutely trash Luca. And now this was Hey, we
would like to let now you didn't meet with you.
Now you've never heard it from me. It's like the
It's like the scene in the Spy movie where where
the two people meet in the park on the park
bench and one of them's feeding the pigeons and the
other one sits neck. They say, don't turn to me.
I'm gonna tell you what's going on. Then I'm gonna
get up and walk away. Like that's kind of how
(36:56):
I see.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
And they leaves that has an envelope under yeah, here
you go. Hey, read the story on page d three. Oh,
on page d three, like this, this is what I
see it again. I don't know this to you know,
to be a fact. I just know that it's true
because there's no way this wasn't something that was put
out there because suddenly, now today Luca gets the message
after hearing that last night Windhorse going viral with his
(37:19):
I'm suddenly turning into a hot take phenomenon. No, this
is exactly what the Mavericks wanted to get out there,
and it's just too late because everything went.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Everything he said was right. I mean, that's exactly what
Luca has been. But he's got a little too full
of himself, a little too full of hero ball, and
you had bad ideas with trying to create contact all
the time instead of scoring, and then you know, wanting
to complain about calls while the ball is going the
other way up the floor for the Celtics. So yeah,
there's nothing that's wrong here. This was just the message
that the Mavericks wanted out to Luca, and it looks
(37:47):
like the message was received.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, I know, you get it out through a guy
who never goes after players, right, don't don't bite the
hand that feeds you. You know, information guy suddenly isn't
he's he's kind of information while holding a flamethrower in
this right, It's like, well, because he could have just
said my sources, you know, around the Mavericks you know
(38:09):
this is the kind of thing. No, no, no, Instead
he went full on. You know, he's master of the
microphone in a WWE shoot interview, so that that's really
where for Windhorse and he got the message across. And
then they made Luca sit down and have that interview.
He didn't want to be there. It still comes back
(38:31):
to Michael Finley steeling his beer. You treat him like
a child. You know what you get, You get a child,
That's what you get. That's what you get. If you
want to make me feel like an infant, guess what,
I'm gonna throw a tantrum.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
You're gonna take my beer. I'm gonna take all the
shots that and complain against the referees. How about that,
Michael Finley, Glad you take my beer?
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Then that's great. Exit out about a Fresca exit swelling done.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Coming up next, it is time to address the biggest
NFL story of the last couple of days.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
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