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May 10, 2024 37 mins

Jason and Mike tell you who they got taking the last shot between Jalen Brunson and Steph Curry. And Julian Edelman said the tension in the room with Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft at the Tom Brady’s roast could cut glass.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:49):
there is still new news coming in like every day.
This has been the week of the Brady Roast and
coming up at about twenty minutes, we got some audio
for you about what's being said. Even today. It's Thursday, right,
The roast was five days ago, but we're still on
overload on it because it was just that successful.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Are that we're that desperate for anything that can be
loosely associated with the National Football League.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
You know, you know, I want to ask you this
before before we get into the basketball, because I now
it's time for that big Jalen Brunson hot take that
that I'll tell you about. Oh but I got I
ask you this. How many people I mean, I wonder
just you know, the reaction to this Brady roast? Right,
I've seen so many roasts, like Comedy Central has had
them for so many people throughout their lives. Like I
told you how funny they are and how great they are.

(01:35):
The reaction to this. I wonder if, like, like what
percentage of the country had no idea what a roast was,
and now they they just, oh, I don't know about this.
This is incredible listens. So they do this for celebrities,
and they they say bad jokes about them, and they
go places they shouldn't. I don't understand about this. What
they almost feel like people are just understanding I didn't

(01:55):
know what this roast concept was, but now it's brand new,
like it hasn't been going on for like seventy five
years in Hollywood.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
How many people do you think went to the Cooking
Channel to watch this?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Actually done. See if Tom Brady's going to make a roast,
I want to see how it's done. I want to
go see.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
But these are also people that clearly don't watch late
night television. How many times have you had the complete
series of the Dean Martin Celebrity Roast tried to be
sold to you. Look, it's got Don Rickles and Foster Brooks,
and over there's Milton Burle with Dean Martin, Frank Sinatra
and an appearance by Sammy Davis Junior. I mean, come on,

(02:34):
we've had those on TV late night forever, in between
your wrongco and Different Medication Long Term and now LifeLock.
I have no idea how people could have been oblivious
to what the concept of a roast was. They're gonna
sit around and tell nice stories about what a great
guy he was.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
No, it's not an Irish.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Wake Honey, honey. I'm on the Food Network channel and
it's guy and people are running around like a fake supermarket,
grabbing things and cooking. Where's the Brady roast? It's not
Can you cut? I don't know what's going on here.
You gotta find this for me. Oh streaming, Oh, I
don't know how to figure, can you can you come
over and turn this on for me? I don't know
how to get the Netflix.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
No.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
I know there's a Netflix button right on the remote
that I have, but I do I press it and
it goes right to that and it goes right to Netflix.
If I press that button, it goes right to I
don't think it does. I think I had to turn
something out all right, No, i'd find all right, I'll
go right to Netflix. I mean, it's like, I feel
like it's this concept of a roast is Oh, I
didn't know it was gonna be this, or I didn't
know what this was all about, Like it's something brand new,
Like I really because that's the only way this reaction

(03:39):
is as it is, because people are just so up
in arms or so surprised about things. Because other than that, it's, oh, hey,
the Brady roast. That's pretty cool. They said this, they
said this. It was fun. But it's like it was
this big cultural phenomenon. Man, Like, hey, there's this new
concept where you know, if a guy agrees to it,
you pay him enough money, he'll sit in a chair
and people will make really gm arrassing jokes about him

(04:01):
for like two or three hours, and then he gets
a chance at the end to go back at everybody
who said bad things about him. What a great concept.
I can't believe. You know what I had the other day.
I went to go get make a peanut butter and
jelly sandwich, and I dropped my chocolate into the peanut butter,
and I took the chocolate out and I took a
bite and it tasted great. So I just started dipping
my chocolate to the peanut butter. Do people really do

(04:21):
stuff like that? Now? This is amazing, Like, really, that's
a roast. It's a roast.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Aast is well that and like all these the comedian
there's a couple of the comedians that are obviously newer.
But I mean Jeffrey Ross and Nicki Glazer have been
doing this a minute.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, well Jeffrey Ross's but this has been no old career.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
That's his entire career, right, he had that show that
was running seemingly weekly. We're roasting somebody else really hurriedly.
Let's get it up and going.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
I don't I.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Don't know, man, I'm always confused. And look, there's plenty
of stuff that passes in pop culture music, whatever that
I have no idea what the hell it is. So
you know, I I certainly am looking out my glass
house as I throw these stones.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
But the concept of a.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Roast and and what it's supposed to be, Yeah, it
seems seemed a little little funny. It's like the person
who gets a sign from the desk because we know
from newspapers and other forms of media they're being cutbacks
or whatever. It's like, hey, you normally do the what
the obituaries? Yeah, you're gonna cover the roast?

Speaker 5 (05:26):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Don't worry, just go to the forum. You'll have a
good time. It's gonna be a bunch of famous people there.
Do I guess, God, what the hell is this? Then
will there be food? And will they validate my parking? Okay, great,
I'll go cover it.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
That's what most people probably think. It's a universal roast
rule that you're not allowed to make fun of Robert Kraft.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
How does any so much power?

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I can't believe the owner of a football team at
so much pain. You can't hit in the face like
you're hitting in the face.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
You can make fun of the quarterback all you want,
but you can't make fun of the Oh I didn't
know that, Okay, I gotta watch out for that.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
I wish they'd had one or two more random people
in the in the audience. I mean, I know Kardashian
did a thing up on stage, but people seem to
have been really out of sorts because she was in
the stands. So they should have picked one or two
other people that weren't Dana White to go after just randomly.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Hey, I see you back there.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Thanks for taking that.

Speaker 5 (06:18):
I got you now. It's like, but I just came
as a plus one.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
So we'll have more on this story coming up at
about fifteen minutes. I mean, there's something that came out
today that makes he's gonna make you go, oh my goodness.
But seventy eight fouls, seventy eight calls is what the
Pacers have complained to the NBA office about missed calls
or calls that were not made in favor of the

(06:43):
calves that went to the Knicks wrongly. All right, this
is what Rick Carlisle mentioned last night, head coach of
the Pacers. Look, we are we are going to talk
to the league about this because the fouls are not
being called equally. We're really being put upon now We're
able to get some audio here from Fox Sports. This
is exclusive audio. We have here of the League office

(07:05):
picking up the phone after the seventy eighth call from
Rick Carlile complaining about it because he called seventy eight times.
Here I found this one. This one, seventy eight times
he called the league office, and we have audio of
the league picking up the phone for the seventy eighth time.
You want to hear it?

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Did we make sure it was edited?

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Frostburg? Is it edited?

Speaker 4 (07:25):
I'm not sure?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Okay, all right, let's rage it.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
I like that answer. Yeah, then count me in. I
leaned in with great anticipation.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Let's live dangerous. Let's see how the league answered the
phone after getting seventy seven previous calls from Rick Carlisle.
I'm looking all over for you. I gotta get out
of here, Prano. I got a Stage five cleaner. I
need more time. Did you get what I just said
to you? Stage five virgin clinger? You know, I was

(07:54):
at least hoping you would edit in a phone ringing sound.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
No, after the seventy eighth time, they just they just
pick right up. It doesn't even ring.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I gotta grab it. I gotta grab it.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
That's what the pacers are. They're they're the Stage five
clinger at the end of Oh.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
My goodness, this is just this is just crazy.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Uh I on their lower back.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
I know, I get that's bulls all right here it is, buddy,
all right, a little most dangerous game. Sure, that what
we got. But outside of this ridiculous, because I get
you know this is all about I would rather Recarlo
just say hey, referees, how about you call the game
for us next game, like, instead of going through it,
just say hey and not look so crazy and stupid
when when you're saying I got seventy eight calls you

(08:39):
didn't make for us. I couldn't get to eighty or
eighty five or ninety, but I got seventy eight.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
He leaned into the bit. You already thought he was
unhinged after the double dribble. He's doing it for you.
It's performance, aren't for you?

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Smith? Just say it? But are you ready for a
Jalen Brunson hot take? You're ready for Jalen Brunson hot take?
You ready? Oh? Let's go? All right? So I'm gonna
ask you this. Now. We've talked about him throughout the playoffs.
He's questionable for Game three tomorrow night. Nicks will not
have Ogano Nooby, maybe he plays, maybe he doesn't. The
Nicks have a freebe tomorrow night. The Pacers should win

(09:10):
by thirty tomorrow night and make it a two games
to one series, and maybe Rick Carlisle will calm down.
But I gotta ask you this, who would you rather
have the ball in the final minute of a game?
Who would you rather have a ball in the final
minute with a chance to either win the game, tie it,
make a play or make a pass?

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Reggie Miller?

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Who would you stop Reggie Miller. He's not gonna pass
to anybody. He's gonna find a way to shoot it,
even if four guys are on him. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Georgia.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Who would you rather have the ball at the end
in a situation like that in the last minute of
a game? Jalen Brunson wait for it, Wait for it,
Jalen Brunson or Steph Curry? Who would you rather final
minute of the game? Who would you rather have the ball?

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Is?

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Klay Thompson. Klay Thompson, if you an eighteen.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
You know what, it doesn't matter because there's a reason
why Jalen Brunson is the right answer and can b
RM ready for my interview. There's a reason why Brunson
is the right answer, and it's really got more to
do with Steph than it does with Jalen Brunson. Because
Brunson is not the biggest guy, right, He's not. He's
not the biggest guy's not the most athletic guy. But
what what have you seen from Brunson in the final
minutes of games, whether it's this year before the year

(10:24):
before that. Brunson, a despite his size, can get his
shot off no matter what. He can get his shot off.
He finds a way because he's that good and he's
that smart.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
He's on the way to get a lot of mass right,
which rhymes with ass.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Use what you have, right. But but Steph Man work
what Jamma gave you. That's why Steph Curry is one
of the best shooters of all time. Right, But Brunson
can get his shot off in the final minute. More importantly,
when he gets double teamed, Jalen Brunson finds it out
to pass the ball. Steph Curry doesn't, Steph curR he
can't get a round of double team and and and
squirt through and find a place to go with the basketball.

(11:05):
Jalen Brunson does. All right, this is just this is
just about Steph at the end of games. Why he
doesn't have all these game winning shots. People remember why.
It's he's big in transition and when they're up and
when they're running up and down the floor, when you
come down to the end of the games, it's the same.
It's it's it's the same. It's he can't get his
own shot off and he can't pass through double teams.
So if he could pass through double teams, Dwarves will

(11:25):
win games that way. But they can't. But watch Jalen
Brunson again, not a big dude, right, You look at
him and Curry, very similar, and yet Jalen Brunson finds
a way to step back and get his shot off,
or go through a guy and get a shot off,
or get a guy on his hip knowing he's going
one way, turn the other way, bank off the backboard,
or hey, I got two guys on me. I'm not

(11:46):
gonna wait. I know I gotta get the ball out.
And here comes here comes Hard, Here comes Stevincenzo. The
Knicks are decisive and they make their shots. He does that,
and we've seen him do that. I'm not telling you
anything that that I'm making up or that we haven't
seen the final minute of a game. Who would you
rather have the ball? I know, Jaylen Brunson get a
shot off, or he gets the ball to a teammate
for a big shot. I don't know that Steph Curry

(12:06):
can do that.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
You know what's kind of funny is earlier today, I
you know, as I'm scrolling, I'm out walking the dog
and I see Draymond Green's a video clip pop up
and he was having that conversation as related to who's
the best point guard in the game. Has Brunson surpassed
Steph Curry? And he goes blank, No, you know Steph
Curry is still playing in the league. I'm like, yeah,

(12:29):
But now we get into that discussion is he really
a point guard? Which is a whole other offshoot of
this thing, which you know, I've always and wondered if
he wasn't truly just a shooting guard.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
But that's neither here nor there. Your premise is interesting.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
You make a compelling argument and again owing back to
Brunson being able to create space and find passing angles
even if he's not vertically on eye level with all
these other guys floating rus see how and nice I
was me as the short fire plug guy talking about

(13:04):
you know, six one six two guys running around who
have veritable giants next to me. But you know, for
for Brunson, you've had the rise of Devinceenzo and some
of these other guys to be able to make plays.
So at present, it certainly is is a discussion with
having I think my my history tells me that I

(13:27):
would be, you know, committing some sort of basketball crime
if I bypassed Curry right now. But uh, I'm leaning
that way, even though it gives your Nicks a win.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I know, but but that but that's it. I mean,
we've watched it for so long and look these guys,
they're both six to two, they both go one ninety.
But I'll give bruntson the benefit of the dost no.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
Chance in hell. He's the same way.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Maybe maybe he's playing a little bit more weight, but
that's all. He still gets a shot off.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
A well, I mean look at it, and he does
wear the extra shirt, so it's gonna add you know,
maybe a little appeer and some ball.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Oh yeah, I don't you know that because I've wore
an extra shirts like they had like fifteen twenty pounds
to you if you want.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
To see it every day in the studio, there's.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
No I take that one shirt off. It's like, who
is this? That's Jason? Oh my god, look at him.
He chiseled, he's all that. Yeah, I wear an extra
shirt sometimes it's how it is, No, but that look
that makes he's not as fast steph Curry is fast
or more elusive, should be able to get a shout,
but he can't. But he can't do I mean, it's
it sounds like a hot take, but it's not that
hot a take because you realize at the end of
games the Warriors are limited because he can't do that,

(14:29):
and and the Knicks are where they are because they're
point guard with the basketball the entire time can do that.
I mean, it's real. It sounds hot, but it's not
really hot. What does that if it sounds hot but
it's not hot? Is that?

Speaker 5 (14:39):
What? What?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
What is that? Is that?

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Foux hot?

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Is it whether it's actually hot or not?

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Is that a new segment we're gonna add to the show.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Dude Hot or Not was a segment in radio like
eighteen years ago. Website the internet, let's do let's do
a hot or not segment, man, because everybody goes to
hot ornot dot com. Let's do hot or Not for
sports man.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
I'm a little afraid of what I'm gonna find if
I go there right now. Not a work computer.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Exit out about a Fresco exit swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harbon, So just
think about it. The answer is Brunson. I know, sounds crazy.
The answer is Brunson. We'll have more on this, plus
again what was said today that's going to knock your
socks off about the Brady Roast on Sunday. Keep it
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Speaker 1 (16:06):
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Four minutes ago in the third quarter, Mavericks lead the
Thunder eighty seven seventy nine. Luka Doncic twenty points, seven rebounds,
five assists. Though he has been limping, it looked like

(16:27):
he kind of either and I couldn't tell, like if
he fell and he got like a bad contusion on
his knee, like he just got a like a like
a floor burn. But he's kind of been limping a
little bit. Not stopped him. He's been able to play
and play pretty well, but you can see once in
a while limping a little bit. Little blood on his
knee looked like it happened near the end of the

(16:48):
first half. But again he's been playing and the Mavericks
have an eight point lead right now, and again they
absolutely have to have eighty seven to seventy nine over
the Thunder again. Lots of time left in this game.
Killjos Alexander twenty four points, no surprise, but your guy
Mike Carmon my chat with just nine tonight, Chet with
nine tonight.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Well remember my my, my true first love on this
team is lou Dort.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
So let's make sure we still lou Dort. Still it's
not yeah, no, it's still. It's a come on man,
you I think you never forget your first love.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, but you get more jazzed up talking about Chet
than you do lou Dorty check one of.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Those guys that's gonna be one of those next big
things we're talking about here right, Well, we're we're gonna
try to have these matchups of big men in the
Western Conference. Lou Dort's a nice story, but yeah, Chet
really gets the tongues wagon.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
So again eight point lead for the Mavericks again four
minutes ago in the third quarter, and yes, already it's
piling up. Jason, You're crazy, You're insane. What are you saying?

Speaker 5 (17:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Tell them you man? Well we talked about a few
minutes ago.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
Now who would you just did to one to one?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah? What I'm saying because I'm saying, right, was if
you drag it out through the league.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I mean, you're not taking either of them, No, no,
but you're gonna have other players in the mix.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
But that one to one comparison is really a stumper
at this.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
No. But here's where here's where you expand the point. Right,
Here's where I can expand the point is that we're
talking about two guys. Yes, there's other guys with the
ball at the end of the games you get, yes,
But the reason I picked Steph Curry is that for
all of this, you know, listen, Steph Curry, we have
to understand is a specific type of player. And when
somebody else, when somebody else who is his size that

(18:34):
athletically is not as gifted as he is, that is
to say, same height, six to two, but maybe he's
got ten or fifteen pounds on let's just say that
between ten and fifteen pounds, because I think Brunson's got
probably about that on Steph Curry, right, when you someone
who has that size and is not as athletic as
you are, and he can get shots off in the
final get his own shot off at the end of

(18:55):
games like not not just hey, I can run around
four screens and get the ball. No, I can dribble
the ball as a point guard, and I can get
my own shot off end. I can also pass out
of a double team and get the ball to a
teammate and not have it go crazy or fly out
of bounds. What does that tell you a little bit
about how we talk about Steph Curry. I'm not saying

(19:16):
the guy's overrated, but when you look at the end
of games, I mean, you know, in the pantheon of
where he is, you have to take into account that
the Warriors can't give him the ball at the end. Right,
It's why they went out to get Kevin Durant. I mean,
I'm going all the way back to the birth of
the dynasty. They won the first title. They were great
front runners that beat the crap out of everybody. Then
when teams figured things out, Okay, hey, guess what we

(19:37):
realized we couldn't give the ball to Steph at the
end of games, especially the end of the clinching game
against the Cleveland Cavaliers, when the Cavaliers came back from
down three to one. Right, No, Draymond Green in Game five,
Steph wasn't enough. They win the Cavaliers win Game six,
Game seven when they needed it, Kevin Love comes out
defensively on Steph Curry and stops him from getting off
what could be a game winning shot. Kevin Love comes out, Kevin.

(20:04):
But that's the moment where that where the Warriors realize
and the rest of league realized, Oh hey, wait a minute.
In the final minute of the game, here Steph has trouble.
Steph can't get his own shot off, and he's got
to get rid of the ball most likely, Hey wait
a minute, And that's what the Warriors said, You know what,
we need something else, We need something else to go get,
and they go get Kevin Durant. And that extends the
dynasty because yeah, then you had a guy's one of

(20:25):
the top scorers in the entire game, who can get
his own shot off you can go to at the
end of games. I mean, the Warriors the dynasty change
entirely after that, right, Okay, suddenly, oh here's Kevin Durant
and you three more finals. You win two of them,
probably would have won a third if Kevin Durant doesn't
blow on his achilles. I mean that that's really a fit.
You know, it's more of the way that they understand
about Steph curryan and what he is and as a

(20:46):
player at the end when you say, hey, here's Jalen Brunson,
who is not athletic, doesn't get the love that other
players do. But yeah, everybody in the NBA would say, yeah,
I want him with the ball the minute left to
go because I know he's going to be able to shoot,
and I know he's gonna be able to pass out
of the double team, and he's gonna find a way
and Steph just can't do it. So that that's how
you extend this point. It's not so much about a
I love Jalen Brunson and I do Jalen Brunson, so

(21:08):
but stending it out, it's about it's about Steph Curry
because I because of the reason if they're win the title?
Are you getting a tattoo of them? Oh, Jalen Brunston tattoo?

Speaker 5 (21:17):
What what I get?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Like? What I get his number? Would I get? No? No?

Speaker 3 (21:20):
No, you get that one like that little animated gift
I gave you.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Oh, I got like like.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
On my little animated like you know they did the
old little they made everybody short with big o's Oh.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, yeah, okay, like on my calf? Would I get it?
Would I get out of my arm? I don't know,
like what I do? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
You keep telling me how big your triceps are. You
might be enough back there, t shirt.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
There's only one thing I I don't like, needles. I
really don't. I don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
They'll reply you with enough Big Max and syrupy Coca
Cola to get you through the Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I'll be like in the movie. I'll sit in the
chair in a big white tank top with a bottle
of booze and one I'm just get right out of going.
Go ahead, don't even give me any anaestijia. Just put
the tattoo right on. I'm just trigging out of the bottle,
putting it down. It's not a bad way to be
Oh boy. Uh. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carbon
Live the Track dot Com Studious.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Because you know what happens though, Like if if you
do get asked about the tattoo, if you got his number,
you can always just say you're a big Stranger Things
fan instead.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Dude, what does mine say?

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I don't know, prospert, what did yours say, Sweet.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Dude, what does mine say?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
What does yours say? I don't know what are we doing? Though?
I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
I was waiting for another witty uh comeback there.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I was waiting. I understand, I understand what am I
supposed to say.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
The fact that you don't understand is that that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I don't get it. What do you what we do?
What were we doing?

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Keep it going? What do you keep on trucking?

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Keep the show going, or keep this going? I don't understand.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Dude wears my Car bit?

Speaker 4 (23:03):
That's exactly what it was.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Oh my god, it's a dude wears my car bit? Dude, dude,
I think I saw that movie once, like twelve years ago.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
So you let it sit for twelve years before they
got you.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
When was dude Wears My Car? That was two thousand, oh,
two thousand, Oh my god. I talk with Sean Williams
Scott Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, back when he was in
Everything right that was American Pie and oh sure and boyfriend.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
And that he was really okay yeah, and Jennifer Garner.
How long was that? Christie Swanson?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Wait? Wait wait, how long was that before? Role models?
Role models like two thousand and six, right, because that
would that was that was like the to that. Okay, yes, okay,
John william Scott, boy, the guy kind of owned the
odds again, the vast barren wasteland of pop culture. That was.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
He don't try to dismiss his career just because you
don't like the other stuff that's out there.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
Sean Williams, the guy had a hell of a run.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Dude, Where's my car? Two thousand Oh man, Okay, I.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Really thought it was back when the Knicks were still
kind of good.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Hey, we were coming off the title, they were coming
off the championship, the NBA finals that year.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well, that means that Sean william Scott is ready for
a resurgence.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
What do we got here? Yeah? He was the one
in Final Destination where you know, like they all knew
they were gonna die, Like you know, they knew that
this is how it was going. And he goes, oh,
please don't tell me I'm gonna die before the Jets
win the Super Bowl, And I'm like, ah, that just
sens it. You're getting killed in this movie. You're not
making it out of the au. It's nicely done.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Andy Frostburg.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
He was really good in that movie with the guy
that started dating his mom. Billy Bob Thornton was the coach.
I forget what his name was. What do you want that?

Speaker 5 (24:41):
That's another in the IMDb And he was good in
Coon Goon was a great movie.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay, are you just going down the list of movies
now in naming movies? Are you just going down?

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Listen to Sean william Scott. You started to celebrate his career.
So I said, hey, let's go.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Let me go down and name everything he's done.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
No, no, no, he's got a lot of credits, a
lot of credits.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
The Jason Smith Show at the Bike Carver Live from
the Direct dot Com studios. So yeah, you'll take Brunson.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
I would ta Sean Williams Scott over Brunson to take
the final shot.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
That's true. I have not seen him, and he looks
like he could hoop a little bit. I mean maybe,
you know, hey, I want an actor to go you know, hey,
I think there's thirty actors who could be NBA stars.
Right if there's if there's thirty NBA guys that can
play in the NFL, I want actors to say, hey,
there's thirty actors that could be NBA stars right easily.
Come on, man, I can I it. Thirty guys go
right into the NBA. Will Ferrell, Yeah, Will Ferrell, John Krasinski,

(25:32):
he's a good basketball.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Play Harrelson and Brian Bomgarner was sure money from three
point Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Sure, Clooney although Clooney's older now, but he had game
when he was younger. I had thirty guys. Thirty guys
could be NBA stars easy. I want to see that
podcast right now.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I might actually do that when I can't sleep.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
Who has played basketball?

Speaker 1 (25:54):
But it is still headlines four or five days after
the Tom Brady roast. One of the big highlights, of course,
of the Brady roast was Bill Belichick coming out and
roasting Tom Brady. And it was weird seeing him and
Brady because you know, they didn't get along at the end.
You know, Belichick and Bob Craft didn't get along. So

(26:14):
it was really something seeing all these guys on stage.
They had shots together. And then we get this from
Julian Edelman from the Games with Names podcasts earlier today
did it with Drew Bledsoe where they talked about how
there was a lot of tension backstage before the roast,
when Belichick was there and Bob Kraft walked into the room.

(26:34):
Take a listen, it's coming up. There's tension right now,
tens right now, trying to get.

Speaker 7 (26:42):
It to gotens. We have tension, anticipation, a lot of tension.
Dramatic pause, tension.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
All right, here we go. We got it now.

Speaker 8 (26:56):
Tension in that room, though it was it was real headcut.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
It was very real. It was I was so awkward.

Speaker 8 (27:04):
I was like, I was watching coach, and I tried
to give coach a heads up. I'm like, I see
craft walk in. I'm like, you know, coach, like locker
room like five oh, you know, like.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
He did.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Of course he didn't.

Speaker 8 (27:20):
See it right, and he came in and I was like, oh,
this could be fireworks.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
I just walked away.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
He said, you could cut the tension. You can cut
with glass. That's how bad it was when they walked now.
Edelman went on to say in the podcast that eventually
Craft in Belichick did talk by themselves for about ten minutes,
but it was really really awkward. And you know, first
of all, I can sell picture this right. You could
picture Belichick holding court talking about it, and I remember when

(27:47):
we did that. Yeah, that was really funny that in
two thousand and eight. I remember remember twenty fourteen, Yeah,
Brady said, yeah, I could do it without Randy Moss.
It was funny. We got rid of Randy and he
didn't have a great year at all. And all of
a sudden Craft walks in. Everybody's just quiet. It's like, oh,
all right, all right, hey, uh Bill, good catching up
with you, man, I will talk to you. I'm gonna
go over here now, I'll stay here protect me or

(28:09):
I have a good I got more fun stories to tell.
I haven't seen you guys in a while. I don't
have a job really, so it's fun seeing you guys again.
And hey, I always loved you guys, even though I
was really hard to ask on you in practice and everything.
And I still low so I could totally see this
how this goes. And it suddenly Craft shows up and
it's oh boy, here's the thing. But this goes to
my philosophy of it should be a lesson for everyone

(28:32):
that no matter how powerful you are, or mainly, no
matter how much id g AF you have at work,
no matter how much you have, if you upset someone
who is very influential. You never know how that's gonna
come back to bite you in the ass. Right, This
is what whenever you leave a job, if you, I mean,

(28:52):
if you can't stand it, and you and you and
you gotta say something, and you got to not get
along well with your boss or somebody else at work,
one of your co works, because you can't stand you
can't say X, Y and Z. Yeah, look, I just
got to I got who. I gotta just understand that.
You know, karma is you know what they say, and
it's a wheel and it's gonna come around to you eventually.
Because here's Belichick who thought, Yeah, I'm powerful, and Craft

(29:15):
wants to get rid of me and blank you and
I want to do everything I want to do and
I'm the guy in credit, gets get gets credit for
this and everything else. Yeah, yeah, I'm leaving. I'm gonna
go someplace. Selson coach. I'm gonna break Shule's record and
you're gonna have to watch it on television. Yeah, Yeah,
what happened? He had two interviews with the Falcons. The
Falcons wanted to hire him, and what did we hear?
Many sources reporting that Bob Kraft talked to Arthur Blank

(29:38):
and said don't hire him, and said you got to
You're gonna have to watch your back if you hire
Bill Belichick. And that was a big deal in the
Falcons going to Raheem Morris and not Bill Belichick. So
here was Kraft saying, okay, okay, you want to play
this and all this. You wanna be the you want
to be the hero and and and and and not
get along with all this. Okay, you just wait if
you had to. If I get a chance to screw you,

(30:00):
I'm gonna screw you. And what happened Bell It was
the only place that interviewed him, the only place he
was gonna go coach, and Craft, according to these sources,
called and said you gotta be careful about hiring him.
And so Arthur Blank didn't hire him. You got you
have to understand that it's a big world, and that
if if you can walk around like the king of
the hill for a while, but if eventually, if you

(30:20):
do that and someone gets a chance to screw you,
they're gonna take that chance. And you should have learned
that he and he learned that lesson big time now
because he's probably not gonna coach again. Not gonna break
Shule's record, And all he's got to say is, oh,
and I'd just gotten along better with Craft throughout all
of this, I might be coaching again and getting ready
for a big season with a new quarterback, new everything,
and having a great last couple of years to my

(30:42):
NFL career.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Don't underestimate things, right because generally the idea is, hey,
did that guy work there? Yes, here are the dates,
and legally that's all you can do. Doesn't mean that
isn't a hey, I'll meet you at the corner bar
and I'll dish a little bit later. So like death,
pettiness knows no tax bracket watch back.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I mean telling you, man, that's you have to You
have to really understand and have big vision that if
I do this, if I'm okay with torching a relationship
for whatever reason, that eventually it could come back and
really hurt me. And it's it that could that one
phone call from Bob Kraft could wind up ending Belichick's

(31:25):
career as a coach, and he's going to be short
of Don Shula and not get to where he wanted
to get to and and have to leave the game
knowing that he was let go that he was let
go as a head coach, but despite the fact he's
best head coach any of us have ever seen.

Speaker 3 (31:39):
Well, I know you've got a countdown clock on your
wall at your house for when you're gonna say everything
you really want to say to me.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
So no, I learned, man, I learned. I learn no
matter what I think about a boss, and I've had
some bad I've had really good bosses, and I've had
really bad bosses, and even the bad ones, I go,
you know what I I don't you know, it would
be great if I was to say what I would
say or have this kind of relationship where I'm pushing
for control or upsetting somebody. But it's a small world,

(32:08):
and even the bosses, the worst ones, I guarantee you,
the majority of them, would be surprised if I thought
they if they would say, hey, Jason Smith said you
were a horrible boss, and X, Y and Z, they
would be stunned at that, because I know it's a
small world.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
What he was the best associate producer we ever had.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
I never knew. You never know, man, tell you about that.
Oh I had got along well with it. Yeah, Well,
he thought you were a really bad, boss, and and
they'd be surprised at that.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
And it's good and allows softball player.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
And hold onto your hats. Coming up next, Luka Doncic
limping back down court badly following a play against the
Oklahoma City Thunder. He is being checked out. There is
a time out on the floor. Everybody holds your breath.
That's coming up next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carmen weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike
Harmon live from the tire rec dot Com Studios. Seven
and a half to go in the fourth quarter, Thunder
will be shooting free throws. They trail now one oh
six ninety nine. Bit of an early fourth quarter run.
Here is cut the Mavericks lead and uh. A few
minutes ago, we're watching the Mavericks go down court. Luca

(33:27):
has the ball. Looks like maybe he comes down really awkwardly.
He's limping all the way to the basket. He has
to stop and back up, and I'm thinking he's got
to come out of the game. He is not moving
well at all. Thunder go down and get a basket,
and then the Mavericks come back down the floor. Luca
gets it kind of slide steps for three, and I say, okay,
maybe Luca's all right now it looks okay there, Okay.

(33:50):
Then the Thunder comeback down court. Luca's all the way back,
you know, on defense under the hoop. They go right
at him. He can't make it. He can't make a play,
and they get an easy layup by go oh man,
They're gonna take care of Luca. He he just cannot
move it all. And then they go back down the
floor and he makes a move to the basket and
he scored. And I'm saying, okay, okay, how hurt? Is

(34:10):
he really right? Because he is? He is. I mean,
it's like it changes every every couple of minutes, Like
you're what I'm watching him going. He's got to come
out of the game. He can't look at how badly
he's limping. And then suddenly, hey, here's a slidestep three,
or here's a driver hoop where I have a burst
right where I'm shut. It's not like, hey, I can't
do so much. I can only slidestep or stay behind
the arc. No, this was a burst towards the hoop

(34:31):
I have. But then defensively, I'm kind of standing by myself.
I'm like, so, Luka, Doncic is either really banged up
or he isn't. It seems to change every couple of
minutes how injured he is I'm watching the last couple
minutes of this game.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Oh, it's seeming really gets exacerbated when the thought of
playing defense comes up.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
I mean, we gotta call what it is. For as
much as he's.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
Tried to pump his defensive effort and the metrics would suggest, yes,
he has been a better defender, helped at the All
Star break, as we talked about a little earlier in
the show. But tonight, yeah, it seems like there's a
bit of a flare up whenever he's got a hustle
back on d and you got god because you thought
he was done.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah, yo, No, I'm like, look, you saw him limping.
It's like they need to get a time out and
get him out of the game. It was really bad.
It was a good rope and dope, he's stopped participating
in the play. They turned the ball over. It was
all he's got to come out and then oh, no,
he hits a three. Oh defensively, he didn't move at all. Oh,
there he is with the berths of the hoop. I'm like, okay, So,
you know, I wonder when we say things like, hey,

(35:33):
here's Joel Embiid playing on one leg. Here's Luka Doncic
and he's limping. I say to myself, you know, I
don't know. It's the biggest mystery of conundrum to me
about when someone is injured, what they can, what they
can't do, and how much. Hey, if I'm limping in
front of the camera, it's gonna look like I you know,
like I'm more into People are gonna say, oh, look
the guy can barely move. Look at the unbelievable effort

(35:55):
he's putting out there. And sometimes it's rope adope, like
you say with Luca. Hey, maybe that was the limp
thinking that, okay, he can't move anymore, and then he's
able to dust by a guy defensively. But it always
makes me wonder, Yeah, when I see guys playing and
limping and seeming like they're really injured, are they just
kind of playing their own game with the guys on
the court and trying to make them think they can

(36:15):
do less or is it Hey, television people are gonna
see that. Hell, if we don't win or I have
it at a shot in a while, there's a reason why,
because I'm injured and I want I want to make
sure I play that up a little bit. It's always
a difficult thing to see. And there's nothing that makes
more that that puts that on display more than Luka
Donci's the last couple of minutes.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Well, it's interesting though, right because we had that dopey
debate that Austin Rivers started a couple of days ago
that everybody that's ever played either in the NBA or
NFL decided that they needed to chime in on.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
But I'll bring it to this.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
In the NFL, we never say, wow, that guy was
really compromised.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
So that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
And if you're on the field, you're on the field,
and then you just either get it done or you don't.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
For the NBA, we seem to want to write five
thousand pie.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
You know what, if that guy had been one hundred percent,
none of these guys are one hundred percent, right, Joel.

Speaker 5 (37:06):
Embiid and to say, oh, if he hadn't been to hurt,
he's still played thirty eight minutes a game. How her
was he?

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I mean yeah, I mean really, like when you talk
about that, like how much of it is is strategy
for the court, and how much of it is I'm
doing it for the cameras because I want people to
know that I'm in because no one's talks in it
out bad about me. They're not gonna saything bad about
me if i'm if they think I'm injured, it's like, oh,
I gave, I gave all I could, right, Like how
much of it is a combination of those things? Right?
Like I just watched Luca just go all the way

(37:35):
down court between two guys and hit a running one
hand or off the glass, Like, okay, so how digged
up is he? Really? I mean really what I wonder?

Speaker 5 (37:42):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (37:43):
Coming up next, we'll have more on the finish of
this game, plus more big stuff out of the NBA,
including a suspension that only kind of makes sense. This
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