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January 8, 2025 41 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon tell you why there are no great head coaching candidates to fill all the openings in the NFL. Scott Boras is using Prince Fielder's nine-year, $214M contract as a benchmark for Pete Alonso's value in free agency. And Jason has no idea how Mike McDaniel still has his job with the Dolphins!

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(01:03):
first responders, the firemen, people who are trying to find
their way out right now they're evacuating Santa Monica. Some
of the video out here is just stunning to see
where how close the fire is.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Not many times look.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Wildfires, and in the last fifteen to twenty years we've
gotten fortunate enough that they've blown out to see for
the most part, it all depends on the winds. Clearly
it's not happening now here, not getting that big break
which is what we need. And it is a really
scary situation. And all our thoughts, all our hopes here

(01:39):
with everybody that's being affected by this get to safety.
I keep going back and seeing the Steve Gutenberg interview.
He's moving people's cars so they can get emergency trucks
down down the streets, they can help people. It is
that kind of scary night, and all our thoughts here
with you guys, and all great thoughts and prayers are
the first responders who are out there trying to make

(01:59):
things safe, rescue people and get them to safety.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
All the notices of the red flag warning going up
early and saying over the overnight's actually the worst to come,
that winds could get upwards of seventy miles an hour,
already pretty brisk earlier in the day, and certainly we're
seeing how quickly this is spreading all the way over
pch and towards the ocean. It's you know, evacuations and

(02:25):
all sorts of the cities up and along that area
of the coast. Very scary circumstances. So yeah, go ahead,
justin tip of the cap to the badass firefighters. Yeah,
no question. Yeah, just watching watching this unfold and trying
to keep calm and getting folks out of there.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
It is really terrifying.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
I mean the stuff you always see in movies and
television shows depicting the worst of natural disasters, and right
now we're watching it play out live on TV.

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Just scary stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
And for those that have undertaken that as their vocation, uh,
you can't say thank you enough.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
No again, We'll keep you update on here. Hopefully we
get some good news. Hopefully the winds start helping out
and start blowing out to sea and and and they
can try to get this under control. Over three thousand
acres have burned so far, and many people have lost
their homes, and it's it's just a really difficult situation
right now.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
And and uh, you.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Know, all the good karma, all the good thoughts, uh,
they can use them. Uh, but look, our business here
is sports. It's our job to get you uh distracted
and and and talk about stuff while while while bad
stuff is going on in the world. And that's what
we try to do every single night. And uh, now
we're going to continue to do our jobs here by
talking about.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
The coaching openings in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh, I thought we were gonna laugh at the Jets
if we laugh at the Jets every night, like that's
every night? Man?

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Yeah, but giving I mean, I've been a lot of doctors.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Other than cutting my carbs and making sure I get
more exercise, that I also need to laugh loudly uh
and raucous lee several times a day.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
So you know what I do. I think of the Jets,
and then I think of the You're.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
A Bears fan. You're just as big of a train
wreck as my team is.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
You don't need you don't need to come over and
laugh and min laugh on your own team. Stay on
your own property there, don't don't come. Don't there's a
fence between stay on your side. I think about my team,
and I'm reduced to tears.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Good fences make good neighbors.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
You stay on your side of the fence and laugh,
and I'll fan my side of the fence and laugh.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Shames.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
Saw take your tea. No it's not even laughable anymore.
I mean, you got guys that are lying season, digging hole.
This is the greatness of this earlier today, George McCaskey, Oh,
it was the worst when all those Lions fans came
to town and then people are calling into the score
a guy from the from one of the casinos, like, yeah,
George mccasky actually sold me his box for the game

(04:52):
against the Lions.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Like, shut up, George.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Telling me, man, you got plenty of You got plenty
of property on your side.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
You can't property that brings infinite sadness.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
You got a hammock in the back. You have a
little bit of a creak going on there. Now, you
got plenty of property and plenty of stuff to left back.
But when you examine the job openings, right, this is
the kind of year it is in the NFL. Every
off season is different because it operates at a different
level of stardom and help.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Some years, you think about it with the NFL draft.
Some years, the first round of the NFL draft is
ripe with quarterbacks. There's so many to take, and there's
five going in the first twenty picks, and you can
solve all your problems because there's guys out there you
can get bo Nick's late in the first round.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Looking at me through twenty five touchdowns his rookie year. Right.
Some years are like that. Some years aren't.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
And if you need a quarterback, well you still got
to take one, because on picking fifth, we need a quarterback.
I don't like the guys, Well, you gotta take somebody
because there's nobody else out there. You're you're beholden to
who is available at that time. Right, some years, the
first round of the draft is great for quarterbacks.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Years, it's not.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
The openings in the NFL right now are six. They
are the Jets, the Bears, the Raiders, the Jaguars, the Saints,
and the Patriots. Just like Nick Packai like to say
doing his tail of the tape for the last.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Twenty five years, there are no winners here.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
This is about as depressing a list of teams as
you could get to if you are looking for a
head coach or a head coach who's looking to get
that next gig back in the NFL, because honestly, none.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Of these jobs are great.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Right now, I'll tell you there's one that stands out
a little bit more than others, but maybe because they're
just the cleanest mess out of all of them, where
the rest of are just absolute. Me there's somewhat of
a clean mess. But think about it.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Are you going into the Jets and winning? No, you're not.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
You got questions at quarterback, You've never won. The only
person get this job as someone who has zero options elsewhere. Hey,
I'm either the Jets head coach or I'm staying a
defensive coordinator somewhere. The Bears an absolute mess. You don't
know who you're answering to. Who's running the team. You
got to get in charge of Caleb Williams. It's a mess.
The Raiders, you have nobody. You have no quarterback, you

(07:17):
have no running backs. You don't have a plan. You're
looking to try to get into next year where there's
no there's no hope of winning because you're stuck in
a division where all the three other teams are better
than you are. The Patriots are at the bottom of
the barrel. They probably have the worst roster in the
entire NFL. Maybe Drake may is okay, but outside of that,

(07:40):
your team is absolutely terrible. The cupboard is empty. Bill
Belichick made sure to leave it that way.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
The Jaguars.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
You had Shad Khan say on a zoom call today
when Trent Balks sitting next to him, Hey, if the
next head coach comes in and wants to make change
in the front office and he makes a good point,
I'll listen to him. Trent Balky is sitting right next
to him while Shad Cohn is saying this, and I'm like,
this is the Jaguars.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
You don't want to go into war?

Speaker 5 (08:04):
That was great.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
We're working for Shad Cohn is like working for Woody Johnson.
Were just like working for Jerry Jones. You're not winning there.
You just have an average quarterback in Trevor. Lawrence congratulates
on the birth of that kid. Though, Trevor, you have
an average quarterback. You're not winning your rosters on the
way down and the Saints they're probably one of the
two or three worst teams in the NFL, and you
have no hope at quarterback. You're stuck with Derek Carr.

(08:25):
You don't have enough weapons. At running back. You have
enough weapons you have, the defense is not enough. You
are at the bottom of the barrel. And and all
six of these openings, I don't know where anybody can
come in and say, hey, next year, we're gonna contend
for the playoffs. We're gonna be a five hundred ish team,
and we're gonna be eight to nine, nine and eight.
We're gonna come late in December and at least be
in the in the hunt graphic on the side when

(08:46):
they say, oh, let's take a look at their standings
right now, the wre people are here Week sixteen of
the NFL. None of these jobs are great. This is
as hard a list as you're ever gonna see, because
usually there's at least a couple of teams where, hey,
this team is really good. This coach left, this coach retired,
this coach was fired because because the owner thinks, hey,
we're not achieving high enough, and even though he made

(09:06):
it to the playoffs this year, Usually there's a couple
of those teams. There's none there. Ben Johnson may look
at this list and go, this is worse than it
was a year ago. I'm gonna stay in Detroit another year.
I know, I gotta make sure this offense keeps humming
and we score a seventy touchdowns again.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
But what how where am I gonna go I'm not
a miracle worker. I don't want to go to any
of these teams.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Like all of these openings are bad, like you're gonna
get And the thing is, there's not like there's a
bunch of guys ready to come in that have great
track records that hey, they sat out a cycle or
they needed a fresh start. No, these are all guys
that flamed out as head coaches that aren't gonna get
an another look. But they will now only because there's
not a lot of candidates out there besides Johnson and Vrabel.

(09:48):
Arthur Smith is gonna get another look. Matt Naggy is
getting interviews. Rex Ryan was interviewed by the Jets today.
Not only are the opening's bad, but the people to
fill them. There's nobody there that you can come in
and say, hey, I feel great putting you in charge
of my program, and I know we're gonna get to
where I need to get.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
This is a really difficult year man.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
The other is, you know, coming out of all of
these exit interviews, you know, we keep waiting for the
big surprise because at this point, I guess Mayo is
to a degree, we're more surprised that Brian Dables still
has a job, that Shane Steichen still has a job.
After the exit interview and all the clips of Mike
McDaniel today, how do you keep him around? Yeah, guys
were laid all the time.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
We turned Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
But what are you gonna do?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, you know it's selling Chris Greer, everybody Chris Greer,
your GM and action.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Right, So there's another empty suit between Greer and him
in terms of how they operated and were able to
keep things going. But it's six and thirty two. You're
looking at nineteen percent, right, still waiting for that one
big the other shoe to drop, and it doesn't look
like it's gonna a couple of the Again, the surprises
are the guys that kept their jobs because these other sick.

(11:00):
I mean, you're gonna talk to the Rizzler? I mean, sure, easy,
How got an interview with the Jets?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
At least at least have a good note? What can
you bring to our team?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I got a great interview. Man, They called me the
rizz or the Wrizzler. Oh hey, that's correct. That's better
than anybody else we talk to. That's better than Rex
Ryan Man. All Right, we're good.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
We like that. This guy's got a cool nickname.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Let's hire him, and I can probably endorse a double
chunk chokie.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yeah, but all these jobs suck.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
I mean, like the Bears, at least there's a couple
of pieces of personnel far from perfect, but at least
a couple of pieces of personnel you like everybody else.
You'll look at her hut going you Kamara has hurt
all the time, Drake May I'm gonna like the quarterback there?

Speaker 5 (11:38):
What else I got? Jets, Jets, Bears, the Raiders. I
like Brock Bauers.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I like my tight end and whatever Max Crosby is
if he's still here and does a demand to trade,
and in Jacksonville. I like Brian Thomas Junior. I like
Tank Bigsby because his name's Bigsby. And then you got
one or two pieces on defense. But not a whole
lot to write home about.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
No of these teams, right, If you say, okay, what's
the best opening? Now, I mean none of them are
like it's not, none of them are great, But what's
the best opening.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
I would have to say because.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Of the franchise quarterback they have, it's only been in
the league a year. They have a lot of young talent,
and they're probably the cleanest mess. Right, it's still a mess,
like stuff is still all over the place, but it's
not like a teenager's room, like there's okay, this is
I can see this somewhat of a clean mess. I
go with the Bears. I really, I mean I'm not

(12:34):
just saying this for your team, buddy, but the Bears.
I mean, when you have a quarterback that's your franchise guy, Okay,
everything else can be figured out, right. The Jets don't
have that, The Raiders don't have that. New England maybe,
but really, I mean, you're gonna trust Drake, mate, No,
I mean Jacksonville, Trevor Lawrence is just a guy, right,
He's just a guy.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
You're gonna come in and say, Okay, here's a league.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Average quarterback that people think is better than they are,
and we're paying them a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
How am I gonna work? And New Orleans? You got car?

Speaker 1 (13:00):
So what's the quarterback situation that you like the most
out of all of them? It's Chicago Because Caleb Williams
did flash many times this year?

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Was he was he always great?

Speaker 6 (13:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Did he start out slow? Way too much yet, absolutely,
but he did flash and shows it. Hey, he has
that kind of talent and you've only seen him for
one year, so you haven't seen him for enough to
know that, Okay, he's no good or he's just a.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Guy like Trevor Lawrence is.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
So of all those jobs, because of that, Chicago is
the most attractive.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
But still you don't know who you're answering to. Is
it polls is?

Speaker 4 (13:31):
I mean, I don't want any part of it, even
if I ellen love with the bits and pieces of
the offense when it actually worked and you're trying.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
To and you're trying to win in that division where
everybody else made the playoffs and everybody else is gonna
be good next year. But still of that because you
have Caleb Williams. The Bears are the best, opening.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
Good times, the best. There's us and then there's how
many feet?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, well, I mean I know that I meant that,
meant to really just pick you up and perk you up.
But I understand if you're very word of the day
is tipid. If you feel very tipid about my endorsement
of the Bears.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, I mean, because you're doing a tongue in cheek
because you're also trying to say we're terrible. But let
me take a sledgehammer to Harmon while I'm at it.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
We're terrible, Hey, we're not as terrible as those guys.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
You guys are more taunting because you have a couple
of guys that might be good.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Hey, look, we're bad. Well I'm not.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I'm not gonna lie to you, but boy, these other
guide teams are all worse. We're head and shoulders above them.
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you know, making a joke to that, like you know,
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He had a great breath. Let's a humor about that,
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Speaker 5 (17:27):
I did go back and forth with him back in
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Speaker 5 (17:41):
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Like?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
What happened in the World Series? Like I want to know? Uh?

Speaker 1 (17:48):
So, hey, speaking of baseball really quick, before you get
back into the NFL.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
We are waiting for things.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
To pick up now and have the big January push
before we get into pictures and catchers coming in about
a little over a month from now. And there's still
a lot of big time free agents on the market.
Alex Bregman, Pete Alonzo, there's still some big pictures out
there everywhere. What's gonna happen? What's gonna happen? And I
saw this today, a bunch of a bunch of different
outlets reporting that now you know why Peter Alonzo hasn't

(18:20):
been signed because, according to many reports, Scott Boris is
using Prince Fielder's nine year, two hundred and fourteen million
dollar contract as a guide for Pete Alonzo. Uh wow,
this is where Pete Alonzo and Scott Boris need my advice. Hey,
you're you're not gonna win them all. Scott, You're not
gonna win them all. Yeah, you got all kinds of

(18:41):
money for Wansto because he's won bleeping Soto. I'm pretty
sure the market told you what they feel of a
thirty year old first baseman who you don't know how
he's gonna age and is coming off a down year.
You're not gonna get nine years and two hundred and
fourteen million dollars. You're gonna go back to the Mets
for three years and like ninety million and then and
with an opt out at some point. It's gonna be

(19:03):
a short term down. I told you this is how
it's gonna end.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
For Peede Alonso. Right now, it's Scott Bard. They're just
being stubborn.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
No one's gonna say anybody who wanted Pete Alonzo for
that kind of money, they could have done it already.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
No one's gonna say, oh, oh, we didn't know we
had a chance.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Let me make a couple of moves, let me trade
a couple of players, and here comes the contract offer.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
No one's doing that. No one's doing. If Alonso was
coming off.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Of forty one to twenty type year, what kind of
contract when you get it would be different. Be you
watched last night what's his name from the A's who's
coming off of thirty and one to twelve with a
war of five and a half got a five year,
twelve million dollar a year extension. Right, So when you're
talking about a first baseman, a guy that's not gonna
play the field, yeah, you're not.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Gonna get that. Man, you're not gonna get that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
And now he's making a bad decision even worse by saying,
well now because I'm embarrassed, I'm just gonna wait this out,
and I'm gonna wait it out for it for a
deal that's gonna come. And it's gonna be just like
the guys last year, where Alonzo's gonna get right up
to training camp and sign some kind of short deal.
He's gonna have a bad year and players are gonna say, man,

(20:07):
it's really dice. He going with Scott Boris because he
really wants to take you all the way to the limit.
He doesn't like anything other than the biggest contract available,
and he loves the headlines.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
He's too much of a star. It's too much about him.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I think you saw last year when four of his
guys went right up to spring training before they signed.
That that's what's gonna happen unless you have an ace
in the hole. And yes, Jan Soda was an ace
because he's the best free agent we've seen in probably
fifteen years. So yeah, he's gonna get a lot of money, right,
He's gonna get paid. This This is who Scott Boris had.
This is the contract he was gonna get. Boris is

(20:41):
not gonna have another client like this. But understand that
just because you do that doesn't mean everybody else sees
it the way you do. Bi The league has told
you and told you, hey, this is what we think
of Pete A. Lonzo, this is what we think of
a deal for him. You're really gonna go and try
to go to the Angels for like four years and
an extra, or you're gonna go back to the Mets,
or you're gonna go someplace where can contend. Right, this

(21:01):
is where you have to Scott Boris, you gotta just
suck it up and go win some loose some. I'm
not winning this to the extent that I will. So
let me have a real short term deal worth a
lot of money where everybody can be happy. But Boris
does this, and and it's it's okay for some of
his clients and for some it's not. But this is
how he does business. He is a wild, crazy train
kind of a ride of an agent.

Speaker 5 (21:22):
But it's good crazy train.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
We continues here Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Carman. A little house keeping first off, five year,
sixty million dollars is Brett Rooker?

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Rooker think about.

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Yondu when you next think about the candle?

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Was the first basement? Yes, the same thing? Sure, get okay, period.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Exactly nicely done. See we pull him across multiple cinematic universes.
Prince Fielder hasn't played since twenty sixteen. Yeah, it's a
contract that would be referred to. Here were three seasons
where he went all out played one sixty two, one
sixty one, fifty eight thirty home runs, one hundred and
eight rbi, twenty five, one oh eight, twenty three and

(22:01):
ninety eight. Was an All Star all of those things
and finished in the top fifteen in MVP voting those
three years. The other two years forty two games and
eighty nine games. When you lose two of the five
years in that sample size, probably not what you want

(22:22):
to do saying let's do the comp Hey, he's probably
gonna get hurt. He's got this significant time, but should
tell you what the dollar cost averaging over those other years. Man,
it's gonna be spectacular. So dial it up. Yeah, I
mean it goes back to the old Scott Boris way
of living. We watched it last offseason, right, players that

(22:43):
were dissatisfied, a couple of firings and moving on into
other agencies. Man, in Arizona, you ultimately had it called
the worst signing ever. Right when we go back into that.
So when we look at the landscape and the dollars
that are out there for Pete Alonso, recognize where you're at, Recognize.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
You know what teams do and do not want to
deal with you.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
It's a lot of what we're talking about in the
coaching garrisel for the NFL too, right, A lot of
reports of hey, this guy burnt Bridge is here there
everywhere and here's the organizations that you're dealing with. As
we chronicled right the six organizations with openings not good
for Pete Alonso, good player, above average most of the time,
really struggled in twenty twenty four until they came up

(23:30):
with a couple of big hits. That doesn't offset the
rest of the season and the likelihood as you get older.
Guess what that drifts deeper into the season and maybe
you never had that turnaround moment. So recognize what you got,
where you are and how Cohen might be looking at
you as the next Jersey number to get retired.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
So stay right where you are.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Exit out by to Fresco Exit Swollen Dome. The Jason
Smiths with Mike Carmon live from the Tirech dot Com studios.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Now to this.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Story out of the NFL was kind of a shocker
today And when I saw this, I said, wow, So
maybe it's not just the Patriots wanted to hire Mike Vrabel.
Steve Buckley, who's been covering sports now for the better
part of the last forty years, great writer, works for
The Athletic and he wrote a column today that one

(24:19):
of the reasons Girod Mayo got fired on Sunday by
the Patriots was because he sort of talked his way
out of the job. Now, it doesn't mean that he
was mean. He said things to Bob Craft he shouldn't. Then,
you know what, Bob, you go back to that minimal.
According to Steve Buckley, he says, quote almost from the beginning, girod.

(24:40):
Mayo's various media appearances, from news conferences to his weekly
morning drive interview on WEI ranged from contradictory and uncomfortable
to one unfortunate instance that had a whiff of old
fashioned buck passing The Patriots hope that he'd be able
to have a seamless transition to being the head, and

(25:01):
Mayo didn't do himself any favors by not impressing in
other areas of the job, which included a lot of
his interviews. Now, you remember, going all the way back
to summer, when we were like, oh, who's gonna be
the quarterback? Is it Jacoby Brissett? Is it Drake may
And Mayo said, well, Drake May's outplayed Brissett.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Oh, so he's gonna be the quarterback. No, I'm going
with Jacoby Brissett. Wait what that doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
And then he had other instances over the course of
the Eury walked back a lot.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Of comments he had. He said, we're gonna spend a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
We got money to burn in free agency, and they
didn't go spend money on anybody. He had to downplay that.
Then he had to change when he said his team
was soft after they lost to the Jaguars in London,
and he said, no, no, I meant we played soft. It
didn't mean me worse soft. So he had a lot
of those big faux pause over the course of the season. Now,
was this the reason why he got fired. No, but

(25:48):
it's a part of it. Like if he was like
this and the Patriots won ten games, wouldn't matter. But
when you're unsure about a guy and this is what
you get, and you and you see someone who helps
to steal his own fate because he has a.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Tough time dealing with the media.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
I get it, and I know, and I'm sure this
was part of why Bob Kraft moved on handling the
media and showing that year the CEO of the program
is an important part of it. Like you don't want
players coming to practice every day, going you see what
coach said after practice yesterday. Yeah, he said the Drake
may was playing better, but Brissette's gonna start. He said
we were soft, and he said we weren't soft. Like

(26:23):
It's not just about how you interact with the media.
It's being able to handle things and show that, hey,
I have my finger in every pie on this team,
and whether I'm a first year head coach who was
a great coordinator or I'm a CEO type head coach,
I am on top of everything and I'm not going
to embarrass us and I'm not going to cause headlines
and any sort of questionable behavior in the locker room

(26:46):
by something I say.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
And Mayo couldn't get past that. It's a skill.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Talking to the media is a skill presenting the public
image that you are strong leader and you have everything
under control. That's a strong image. And Jirad Mayo not
put that forward enough. So, yeah, I agree. This was
probably a decent part of part of the reason when
Bob Craft said, Okay, why are we moving on? Yeah, man,
he really is not impressive. I don't know if he's

(27:11):
up for this job. Why is he walking back all
these comments, Why is he saying all of these things?
And then having to backtrack on them. It's just another
thing when in your job evaluation, the guy making the
decision says, yeah, I'm not sure about you.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
I mean there's numerous examples from the quarterback competition to
initially going, ah, we got a lot of capshays, let's
go burn some cash, all of those things that if
you're in the front offices and you're in the meeting
room with the crafts, you're all bristling, you're all a
little nervous. And the hope was that he would grow

(27:47):
into the role right coaching, waiting, all of these things,
learning under Belichick, and that it would translate to immediate dividends. Now,
you won some games down the stretch, and that's what
people are citing as the reason why you get bounced,
because you were ordered. You know, the code red was
ordered and you did to defight it, like all right,
it didn't help draft status at all. But in theory,

(28:08):
you have your quarterback, so you know that part of
the equation kind of you know, move that on. That
keeps you from having the massive haul that you might
in a trade for the draft pick. But that's the
least of your concerns, right, if time and again you're
having availabilities and things where the follow up question is like, wait, clarify,

(28:29):
and then you contradict yourself or recognize that you misspoke,
or the ie becomes we. And I'm not saying the
guys that get one and done generally, I'm not a
fan of right the alright, your immediate reset and go forward.
But sometimes you recognize it's a full calendar year. You know,
it's the one thing I will agree with the Bears

(28:51):
front office and what Kevin Warren had to say, a
year is like a lifetime and in the span of
our sporting lives, you know, we love the sick cleicality
of it. And all right, is I get tired of
talking about how bad certain teams are Jets, Bears, Uh,
they go away and we start talking about other teams
that are really bad Bulls uh and and things like that.

(29:13):
I can't even include the Knicks, that's too bad. But
just the idea of you know, before that year, everybody's
living and dying with every press availability, with every local
radio spot you do. Uh, And when consistently there's an
uncertainty in the messaging, right, there's no straight line approach
of here's our plan, plan, the work, work, the plan

(29:34):
drink May versus Jacoby Brissett. Oh, I we I wait,
who's actually deciding Jacoby's gonna be the guy? It just
there's there's no air of confidence and reliability there, and
I got to think that translated back to the locker room.
So all of that said, for the Crafts, especially if
their dream candidate is out there or be it Johnson

(29:56):
or Vrabel, how do you do you He can't stand
around and wait. If you've already decided that Girod Mayo's
not going to be the guy, then you got to
go out and find the one.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
You know, going back like he's a guy who needed
my advice.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Uh, you know, I always say I'm great pr advisor.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
After that very.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
First instance in the preseason where he said may is
outplayed Brissett, but other things go into it, it's like,
wait what And I understand what he meant was that, Hey, yeah,
the offensive line is bad. We don't want to get
Drake may killed. This is where I would stop and say,
you're done talking to the press. You're not gonna do
an interview every week. You're gonna just do a perfunctory

(30:36):
ten minutes after, and you're not gonna give him anything
because you're you're not ready for this, and and it's
not that you, it's it. And at this point you
you're a little upset that well, boy, he's really not
ready to talk to the media. Hey, he needs some time,
and all he's gonna do is hurt himself. And I
would say, you're done talk to the media, because boy,
that was really bad. And if you, if you, if
things are bad and you you you blow this in

(30:58):
the preseason, you're not gonna do it in the regular
season when the footballs fly for real, I would have said, no, sorry,
he can't be on WEI every week. He's not gonna
do these interviews. He's just gonna be quiet. He's gonna
grow into the role. And then as time goes on
he gets more comfortable he can be out there. But
that was something that should have been done early. They
should have said, Okay, you know what, no press for you.
You're not up for this concert on the team, we'll

(31:19):
run interference for you. The PR department can do their thing.
That was something needed to happen. And I feel bad
for him because that should have happened and it didn't.
That's something he should have thought about. Hey, maybe we
should restrict him being in front of the media for
a bit, because boy, that was really embarrassing.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
We don't want that to happen again. But again that's
just me. I'm a problem solver, also a problem solver,
especially delivery. Steve the Seger.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
He will solve the problem right now of what's going
on in sports tonight with all the big final scores
of games that I bet on.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Steve has the answers right here now.

Speaker 5 (31:47):
Bet bet bet well.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
We had an unexpected ending for Atlanta's game at Utah
in the NBA. The Jazz scored with three seconds left
to even it up, no time out for the Hawks,
don't have time.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
There's Trade Midfoort, Fires Bay Tray Young just won the game.
Tray Young just won the game, Folks. Tray one from
midcarl He just on the silent won twenty four Giants Winnett.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
The Giants waited, not just against the Knicks.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
Trey Young finished with twenty four twenty four points and
twenty assists and only two turnovers and the game winner
just beyond half court at the buzzer to win at
Utah one twenty four to one twenty one that call
from Hawk's radio network on ninety two point nine the game.
There are the two late games, including at Denver where

(32:37):
the Nuggets are close Boston leading seventy eight to seventy
four over Denver late in the third. The Nuggets do
not have their superstar Nikola Jokic tonight out due to illness,
and at Golden State Miami ahead late third quarter against
the Warriors seventy eight to seventy three. Minnesota and Houston
with road wins. Charlotte had lost ten in a row
but beat Phoenix one fifteen, one oh four LaMelo Ball

(32:58):
thirty two points. Dallas was without injured stars Kyrie Irving
and Luka Donsich and still beat the Lakers one, eighteen
to ninety seven. However, in men's college basketball Top twenty
five matchup at UCLA, Bruins were down about twenty first half.
Michigan leads sixty three sixty one at UCLA with ten
minutes to go. Florida ranked eighth, beat up number one

(33:21):
Tennessee seventy three forty three, number two. Auburn has won
at Texas, holding on eighty seven eighty two Georgia at
home upset number six Kentucky eighty two sixty nine, seventh
Raan Marquette over Georgetown seventy four to sixty six, and
Arizona got to win at number twenty one West Virginia
seventy five fifty six NHL victories from Minnesota and Winnipeg.

(33:44):
Pitcher Justin Verlander agreed.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
To a one year deal with the Giants.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
The Raiders fired head coach Antonio Pierce. The Lions running
back David Montgomery is expected to play in the postseason,
returning from his NCL injury. Detroit is off this weekend
as the number one seed. Lions defensive back Terry and
Arnold has a bruce Wood X rays for negative. Ravens
wide receiver Za Flowers did not practice today due to
his knee injury. Baltimore running back Justice Hill was limited

(34:10):
at practice due to concussion and illness.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Speck to you, Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
The Jason Smiths are with Mike Carmon live from the
tirec dot Com studios. You know, two nights ago or
last night, I asked a question about one team that's
the biggest mystery in the NFL. How in the span
of one year did They go from a team that
looked to be on the cusp of dominating a conference
and a year later they're a tear down.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Well, they were never on the cusp of dominating. I
don't know how did that happen. It's a mystery.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
Well, guess what we got our answers today. That's next,
Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
The Jayson the Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon.
Taking it back to nineteen eighty four, Darrel Hall and
John Oates. They were out of touch at the top
of the charts in September all the way to October twelfth,
the longest run for this duo as they continued their
incredible hit making career.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
And now they're out of touch unless they meet in court.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
That's the only time they'll talk again. Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
You know, I love when I get answers to questions, right, Like,
we have the answers for everything, but once in a
while I throw out a question and I go, you know,
I really like to see this answer. Okay, last night
we talked about the Dolphins. The biggest mystery in the
NFL the Miami Dolphins. Right we had the Tyreek Hill controversy.
He didn't want to go back in the game against
the Jets in the fourth quarter and then said he

(35:49):
wants out, he's done, he wants a trade. And it's
stunning that in the course of three hundred and sixty
five days, because at this time last year, the Dolphins
are one of the up and coming teams in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
They they had an offense.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
That was new, that was that was predicated on speed
that so many teams had trouble stopping. They looked like
they were gonna dominate the NFL as long as I
got to play some playoff games at home, which hey,
that goes along with the territory of you know, being
a team that plays in South Florida. You know, they
had the bad playoff game against the Chiefs last year.
But okay, they didn't win, but they'll be back. They'll
even be better this year. They look how young they are,

(36:25):
They got so many great weapons, and now they look
like they're gonna start over and and and it's a mystery.
I don't understand why, Yes, Tua got hurt, but it
should be. Hey, we're raring to go for next year.
Things didn't work out for us this year. We got hurt,
we had a fit. We have to make sure that
other things are buttoned in for next year. But yeah,
we're ready to go. And instead it's yeah, there's a
lot of things that have to get done, and who

(36:45):
knows where the Dolphins are going.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
And it's a mystery. And I wish I had And.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
I like to think once what I want out of
every thirty things we talk about.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
I gotta admit I don't have the answer.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
On I've got the wizardry of it. Yeah, I just
I just had to wait one day. Yeah, and we
got the answer. Okay, So you have the Tyreek Hill
controversy right where he still wants out.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Today, GM Chris Greer.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
And head coach Mike McDaniel did their end of the
year press conference about, Hey, this is where we're at,
and we were answering all the questions about the team.
Of course, Tyreek Hill came up and Chris Greer said, hey,
we had productive conversations today.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Did Tyree Hill take back his trade request?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
No? Okay, So Tyreek Kill is unhappy and you're gonna
have to trade him.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
That's number one. Okay, but we knew that.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
But how about this, Mike McDaniel freely admitting, yeah, there
were discipline issues. Guys relate to meetings a lot, and
you know, and that kind of splintered through the whole season.
That's something I'm gonna correct next year. Wait, what you
mean there was no discipline? Guys were late to meet
it all year, Like you couldn't figure it out, Like
were you doing like a high school teacher where he
just let it go because I'm not gonna fight this,

(37:50):
Like being on time is a thing in the NFL, right,
So all of a sudden, guys aren't showing up on time,
and oh, oh, I'm gonna correct this for next year.
Oh okay, now I'm kind of getting a window into it.
And then the window was wide open when they both
explained why didn't you have a better backup quarterback on
the roster than Skyler Thompson because you know Tua is

(38:11):
prone to injury, and they said, well, we didn't want
to spend a lot because we wanted to preserve our
compensatory draft selections. So wait, wait, wait, on a team
with a quarterback who gets hurt a lot and you
have to worry about concussions in his future. You wanted
to save money, so you didn't go after a better backup.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Oh sorry, Now I.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Know why the Dolphins stunk so bad and why they
went from Hey, they were a team on the cusps
and now they're an absolute tire fire. Oh thank you
for answering that in one fell swoop, one thirty seven
minute Pretz conference. Yeah, we had discipline issues, guys were
on time to meetings. We wanted we went cheap at quarterback. Sorry,
that's why we wanted with a guy that was no good,
because he really.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
Wanted to save some money. Now I get that. Now
I understand why the Dolphins did so. Hey, I asked
it last night. I got my answer to name of
Mike Carmon. I'm a happy dude.

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Put it into the universe.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
And when you find out another team in your division
or two.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
Really the only team that's running well is Buffalo.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
And remember there we a lot of talk about Sean
McDermott before this year, right with some of his comments,
but also just they couldn't get over the hump. Instead,
they come back after making some roster moves and here
we are waiting on them in the playoffs. But the
rest of the division it's the hold my beer, give
me your confessions next kind of thing. I mean, because

(39:27):
this from McDaniel look greer and some of the roster
decision making. He's gotten a bit of a free pass,
some maybe speculation that he was gonna find his way
towards the door. McDaniel talking like he did today, It's
like you could just keep walking. You could walk out
with Tyreek Hill, put the hoodie up, wear your Chino

(39:49):
pants or whatever you're doing, and just keep on going.
Because Miami, Mike, you just showed you're not a leader,
because this is the year you needed it. Especially once
to a goes down that everything just falls apart. Yes,
you had a considerable drop off at quarterback. Hell at
wide receiver you had hell and and Waddle and not

(40:11):
much else there. Right, Johnny Smith stepped up big, but
in terms of wide receivers proper, Uh, he's decided to
drop off there. Eh Chan was fine. But if you
legitimately have all year discipline issues and you don't address them, yeah,
it'll figure itself out.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
It'll work itself out.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
It's like having technical glitches and saying, hey, eventually, you
know they're gonna fix fix itself. We're gonna flip all
the machines on and everything's gonna work.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Right.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
I run a bakery.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Eh, you know, one of our main components is down
in the blenders. But you know what, this time, if
I hit this sequence just right, we're gonna have full power.
We're gonna have our full needs met.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Now, it's not how it works like.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Like now I look at this and go, oh, I
don't have to worry about the Dolphins because Chris Career
and Mike McDaniel they have they have no finger on
a pulse.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
We had to find it.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Now, come on, I mean, I mean, I'm hey, I'm
glad they said it, but wow, man, I mean, how
do you keep your jobs after that?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah? No discipline? Yeah we went cheap. How do you
keep your jobs? I know, more big NFL stuff coming
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