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Speaker 1 (00:49):
Should be well Right now, Major League Baseball held Dodgers
and Astros trying to piggyback off that unbelievable game we
saw earlier tonight between the Reds and the Brains. Elie
de la Cruz youngest player in fifty one years to
record a cycle. The Reds have won twelve in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
They pete the Braves eleven ten.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Let's see the Reds are good the Orioles are good,
the Blue Jays are good ish, the Mets stink. It's
the late nineteen seventies. Mike Harbon, this is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
We have gone back well, And the Dodgers honored Dave Lopes,
Steve Garvey, Ron Say, and Bill Russell earlier tonight. So yeah,
it is a throwback to the seventies. I'm fine with that.
And the Jonas brothers were at Dodger Stadium that anything.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
I blame them.

Speaker 6 (01:40):
Our guy just gave up to Rockets.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
No, there's no no hitter going on here. Like last week.
We do not get a repeat performance. So Dave Roberts
when he comes to hook him, we won't be cursing
at him.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
Maybe not as much.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
He just turned to the fans and go and go. Sucked.
Banke you, banke you.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
But now you have to take him out right now
he's giving up eight runs and four Oh, now you.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Want me to take him out?

Speaker 7 (02:04):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Last week was oh no it grim reaper. Now you
want me to take him out?

Speaker 6 (02:08):
I just like that. He got a guy named Emmett
delay in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
And they haven't showed his mom once yet.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
No, no, no, no, Well it's not quite the no
hitter like it was last week.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
I still would have thought we'd at least get one
or two shots of her. At this point, where is
the reaction after that first home run?

Speaker 1 (02:25):
No, and Tyser's still not going to give us anything
from Emmit Odd or river Bottom Gang Nightmare Band. We're
still not going to get that. He's still gonna keep
playing Tears for Fears all the time. It's sorry, it's
gonna keep You're kind of a big deal, he playing it,
keep playing. No, they're not a big deal. When you
are headlining a concert that has twenty five other bands
in it, you're not a big.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, maybe you're doing it so you can help those
other bands keep their their dreams and hopes and insurances alive.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
No, it's just.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
It's can you make money thirty years after you were popular? Well,
they still are. They sell out. Yeah, but when there's
only a four thousand seed arena, it's not that big
a deal.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Four thousand people still showing up and choosing to make
make their entertainment dollar yours is still kind of a
big deal.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, by the way, we go ahead. No, no, no,
what's that big concert they're doing later?

Speaker 6 (03:14):
On this was like, yeah, yeah, no with a New
Order and all sorts of bands.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, dude, when you and New Order are co headlining
a tour, come on, I mean really.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
I played a few things for my daughter with New Order.
She just loves live events. She's like, are we going
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
New World Order back. Well, if I could get her back.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Into the n w O, yeah, I mean we we
always go back and watch the old wrestling.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Take out some spray paint cans.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, but down the street from from us. Uh, someone
actually did take the spray paint to the sidewalk. Not
quite sure what they're what they're trying to invoked.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
There Smith, you need a Hopscotch in your driveway?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
No, I'm good, I'm good. Thank you. Note I'm good.
I'm good. I having hops watched in years, But I'm okay.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
Maybe next week.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
By the way, we did have a couple of folks
asking about what happened to Live drop of Friday, and
I had to explain that, you know, you kept telling
Allan and the people that run the copyright of Seinfeld
finally told.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
Us to beat it.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, it's not good, tell a baseline, just getting us
in trouble.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
So I can't say that's incorrect. I cannot say that's
incorrect hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (04:29):
I was trying to get a live feed from Frank today.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Oh some videos that, yeah, probably get us in some
trouble if we had.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
This is not Look, it's actually not a bad day
for the Mets, because what do I tell you?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
What what gets?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
How do I go to sleep at night thinking about
all the trades the Mets can make, where they can
get rid of all the guys making a lot of money. Well,
they got rid of it. Wardo Escobar, right, he's making
money this year now. Obviously he's gone now, and he
was he was locked in for money next year. So
I have to worry about that. They got a couple
of pictures. It's starting right now. The Mets just kicked
off the trade deadline. Escabar Cana. These guys will all

(05:04):
go early. Man watch Tommy fam Yeah, who needs a
thirty five year old? The guy's hitting the ball well,
but we don't need him. We're ten games under five hundred.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
We stink.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
And then we got to get to the white whale
of shurz Or and Verlander. How can we get somebody
to take their contracts, at least one of them for
the rest of this year.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Who could we.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
Get to want to pay those guys thirty five million
dollars for next year?

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Who can we get to do that up time upteed?
But today's a good day.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
One high priced thirty five year old guy has gone okay,
Because what do I tell you when you get old,
you get old right away.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
The Mets got old right away.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Swap.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
But what I don't understand, And look, I know the
Angels are trying to be in it. Rendon still on
the il all that stuff. You're bringing in a guy
that doesn't have a whole lot of punch going on
here too, thirty six for home run sixteen RBI and
you give up your number nineteen prospect a pitcher. Remember
they did the thing where they drafted nothing but pictures.

(06:00):
They still don't have anybody but Otani that you trust
on a game to camp basis and you're gonna give
away you're pitching prospects for a guy hitting two thirty six.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Yeah, but here's the thing, OH tell you, you gotta
go for it, right, you got going, you gotta go,
You gotta.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Go for it. Rendon is hurt again. Come on, man,
you gotta look.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Man, that's heart. That's a sunk thirty five million dollars
a year cost.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
No, but here Escobar had been hitting well lately, like
you would like. I think his last like twenty games
when he lost his giggy was d hing part time.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
His averages was close to three time.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, so they traded him on the upswing. Hey he's hot,
let's move him. So they did the right thing. But
you're the you gotta go for it, right. I mean,
I think the Angels just said we're not getting rid
of Otani.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I think that.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
I think that that's why this move is a big deal.
This just said we're getting at Wardo Escobar because we
need to fill in need. They're not trading Otani.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
He did hit three four in the month of May,
two home runs six are thirteen for thirty three and
sixteen games this month, he's heading two hundred four for
twenty two RBI.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Now, speaking of baseball, here's the moonwalk backward rob Manfred
did today about his comments on the A's that didn't
go over well a few days ago. The A's who
are now in lockstock and barrel. It's they're crossing the
t's and dotting the i's. They'll be moving to Las Vegas.

(07:29):
The ballpark was.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Was okayed in Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
All they need now is for owners to agree for
Oakland to be able to move the A's for the
A's able to move from Oakland to Las Vegas, which
is expected to be an easy vote for them to pass.
But it was last week where Rob Manfred gained a
lot of attention because you know, Manfred says things that
are stupid, because you know, he hates the players and
he hates the game, you know, And he was asked

(07:55):
about the A's he said, hey, look, you know I
feel you know, I feel bad, but hey, it's not
just their fault. You know, it's not just a John
Fisher's fault. You know that we tried to get a
ballpark there. We tried to get a ballpark there. And
when he was asked about the A's having their reverse boycott, oh,
it's great to have everybody show up and have an
average MLB crowd one night a year.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
Well he got that smart ass response, right, yeah he could.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
He couldn't help himself, but have to sit there, A
team is moving and you're treating it like yeah, no
big deal.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
What do I care? So here finally Rob Man for day.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Two of the I Screwed Up tour, because yesterday he said, hey,
I should have punished the Astros for the cheating scandal.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Not my best decision.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Here he is today walking back his comments on the
A's from a few days ago.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
My comment about Oakland was that I feel sorry for
the fans, that it was my initial and preference that
we find a solution in Oakland. The comment that I
made about the fans on a particular night was taken
out of context of those two larger remarks. I'm so

(09:02):
sorry for the fans. We hate to move. We did
everything we could possibly do to keep the club in Oakland,
and you know, unfortunately, one night doesn't change a decade
worth of in action.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
So here he is and backing off a little bit,
and I read the comments, right, I get what he's saying.
You know, one night doesn't doesn't doesn't make up for
a decade of an action.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
He's right, because what do we say?

Speaker 6 (09:27):
What happens familiar?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
This is awesome?

Speaker 8 (09:29):
Right?

Speaker 1 (09:30):
So he listens to the show and steals our takes.
What do we say, this is a great night, but
this is a death cry.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
This is a this is a fun thing.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
To do to go out and you go to the
game and you wear the sell t shirts and and
it's you know, it's it's a fun thing to do.
But this is this is not going to get the
team to stay. This is not going to get everybody
to stop and go. Wait a minute, Look, we can
get twenty seven thousand people coming to again. No, they're
moving to they're moving to Vegas. But this was Hey,
in the end, let's do something because we're frustrated fans.
So I get it.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
The thing is as Manford, you know, his apology tour
keeps going. Maybe he's gonna apologize for pay to PLAYE next.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, he's got he's got on the apology tour.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah, I mean here it is that you kicked it
off last night. Now he's got you got another stop today.
Let's see what he's got tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (10:13):
I'm sorry to all we're not being a man of
action when a game.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Time to smack down the cheat and Astros.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Or the Yankees, the Cardinals or anybody else. Yeah, terrible.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
So but here's the thing is that the best point
anti A's moving that I have heard. The best point
about the A's moving is is not because rob me.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Look, it's not working business wise, all the stuff. I
get it. No one's coming to the games the coliseum.
That is awful.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
They're moving up, they're moving to a bigger city. They're
they're getting everything they want. They're getting a bigger ballpark.
Like I get why they're moving everything else. The biggest
argument against it is you are taking a team that
has an established fan base and you're moving into a
brand spanking new location. And that's a difficult sell to
tell people all of a sudden, Hey, now you've got

(11:08):
to go care about baseball. It's difficult. It's difficult, right
because we're seeing we're seeing that. Look look at the
teams since two thousand. Let me give you some of
the relocated teams and how they've done.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
You had the Expos relocate to Washington, right, the Nationals
have done fine, They've won the World Series. Why well,
Washington used to have baseball, so okay, all right. The
Rams have moved to Los Angeles in the NFL. This
has worked.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Why well, because the Rams were from Los Angeles, so
it works.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
They're going back to Orange County.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
The Nets moved to Brooklyn. Well, we've had basketball in
the greater New York City area for a long time.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Okay, that works.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Charlotte moves to New Orleans in the NBA, Well they
had basketball in New Orleans. Those things worked. Now the
relocations without history where teams with the history are moving
to brand new areas. Seattle moves to Oklahoma City, Right,
that's worked. Why the Oklahoma City Thunder drafted, Well, they
won early, they got to the finals in the first
few years, and that's worked. The Chargers are now in

(12:06):
Los Angeles. Why is this a bit of a struggle, Well,
because the Chargers haven't won, right, charges have won, they
haven't been in this market. Oakland Raiders moved to Las Vegas.
That's still going. Okay, Vegas Raiders haven't won either. The
biggest key in all of this to how to solve
this relocation is when you are moving an established team
to new location, is you can't just rely on the

(12:29):
newness of the team and then we'll worry about it.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
No, you want to be able to grab fans right
away and grab a generation. And there's the two biggest
things you can do. You can win, but you need
to spend right away. Spend money. Don't say moving is
what's important. We'll worry about winning in a couple of years,
since suddenly three years go by your team stinks and
you're having trouble getting people to the ballpark because no

(12:51):
one really cares anymore. The team is not good. No,
you gotta get there and you got to bust your
ass to win right away. If you could do that,
if the A's moved to vag start spending money and
bringing guys in and winning, then it will work. But
if you go there and say, hey, we just got it.
We just moving here at the toughest part, but now
we're good, like they think, people are just gonna come
to the games because there's nothing else. You know, there's
a lot of other things to do in Vegas. If

(13:13):
you don't win, people aren't gonna go see these games, right,
They're not gonna go and and brave one hundred and
ten degree heat, even if it's a closed ballpark to
try to get there to go see a game. There's
lots of other things to do. You gotta go, You
gotta be bold, you gotta spend right away. Then you'll
get the new market.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yeah, I think you're just gonna have more of the same.
It's gonna be like Clipper ads in the eighties and nineties.
Come see your favorite guy, Rice Harper. Come see Las
Vegas his own. I got to see Jordan play because
of the Clippers.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
See there you go.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yeah, it gets I remember seeing those things in the
paper all the time. Look at this Clippers ticket package, Bulls.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Nicks, Come watch David Robinson's seventy one.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
You know what's funny though, in the collectible's markets, those
ads now.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
Have value if they're in good shape. Where we're at.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
Twitter at how about a Fresca Mike at Swollen Dome.
You want to solve that. That's the one argument I can say,
And there's a way to solve it right there.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Gotta spend right away.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
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with Jamar Chase joining us now to break it all down.
No one better than longtime NFL insider. You can follow
him on Twitter at Jason Cole sixty two. He is

(14:53):
the author of eight books. He is also officially a
haul of Very Good voter, and he joins us now
I from the Ayahuasca press conference, where he spent the
last couple of days getting Steve Cohen's money to make
ayahuasca and psychedelics mainstream. It is Jason Cole, Ja Cole,
what's happening?

Speaker 8 (15:13):
Oh, how are you bros? Oh dude, dude. This is like,
now I understand the whole Oregon thing because like you're
channeling your inner CONKYSI man, Like, this is so this
is freaky. The Mary pranksters are showing up. I'm seeing

(15:34):
them all even though they're like they're totally dead, man like,
really they're totally they are actually literally dead.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
So right now Jimporter is saying this guy votes, this
guy votes for.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
The Hall of Fame.

Speaker 8 (15:48):
Not anymore, not after this. I had it good. It
was eleven years. It was a really good run. You know.
I gotta say this about a shadow out to Jim
Porter good Man. But you're supposed to get a ten
year anniversary presence, you know when you're yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
What kind of stuff are you talking?

Speaker 8 (16:08):
I don't know what it's supposed to because they didn't
give it to me. Like, let's just say that. And
I'm a little hurt about this. I'm not I'm not
really hurt because I'm at the conference and I'm chilling.
I'm good. I'm just I'm expanding my brain, you know.
And isn't it ironic that, like they approve stuff that
makes you dumber, but just to expand your mind like that,

(16:32):
they keep that illegal. You're quoting here, I'm quoting Aron.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, you're supposed to be getting something ten or aluminum
for your ten year anniversary.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
To symbolize strength and resiliency. That's why it's ten or.

Speaker 8 (16:48):
I've done that a couple of times.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
Okay, so reusability as well.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Instead you're getting ayahuascity.

Speaker 8 (16:55):
My mind is aluminum foil. Okay, sorry, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
You know, how come now I want to say, how
come there weren't more people there covering Aaron Rodgers speaking
at the Psychedelic Conference?

Speaker 3 (17:06):
I mean, why, what was that more? Why was that
more mainstream?

Speaker 8 (17:10):
Well, let's just think about New York sports writers at
that kind of a conference.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Which, yes, it's fish out of water, it's all. It's
like my cousin Dinny. It would be fit.

Speaker 8 (17:24):
I know, Bob Globber, another uptight white guy. Yeah, Bob Globber.
Aaron explain this to me, SMANI like, there's no angle
there for Samani. It just doesn't work, Sirby. I mean,
I'll say that Serby needs psychedelics.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
But wow, there there's a hot take. Wow.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
Actually, actually, now he's probably the one guy who has that.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Group aw allegedly allegedly alleged allegedly.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
I said probably. I said, he's probably the guy out
of the group, He's the guy I would pick. So
never mind. Okay, So we were saying, what were we saying, Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
I can't I can't wait for the next in person
Pro Football Hall of Fame vote, And they were just saying,
you know, before we vote, there's gonna be like eleven
guys are gonna say, I'm gonna talk to Jason Cole
about something.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Steve, Steve Serby, why don't you go first?

Speaker 8 (18:18):
Yeah, well, Spertually, Serby's not in that room, and neither
is Samini, So I avoid that. But Globber is going
to get on me, So I know that that's gonna
happen here. Bring it, Bring it, Globber, bring it.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
Now, there you go.

Speaker 4 (18:32):
So what do you think of New York's favorite tourist
continuing his run and now this speech and whatever it is?
The it's like the summer of George on Seinfeld at
this point.

Speaker 8 (18:42):
It really is the summer of Georgie. The summer of
Aaron is fantastic. I mean, he did already manage to
get you know, training camp or can he shorten training
camp too?

Speaker 7 (18:53):
Like?

Speaker 8 (18:54):
Can he cut it down to like three weeks or
something like that? You've got he's already shortened the off
season program, you know, by decree. You know again Robert
Salad doing is his best bill ourselves. Okay, let's get
these plays. These plays. It's one two, okay, skip the
rest of these. Okay, that's it.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
No, it's gonna be like there'll be two and a
half weeks in.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
He's gonna throw his last pass for practice, like an
eighty yard touchdown to Garrett Wilson.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
He's gonna go, coach. I think we're good.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Oh, we're good for the day. All right, we're gonna stop. No,
I think we're good. For Pratt. We'll we'll, we'll see.
We'll see you in a couple of weeks for them.
Oh yeah, Hey, ru's a training camp. Let's cancel the
fourth off preseason games. We're gonna camp.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
You gotta worry about it.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
We'll we will, we will need mental health days in
the middle. Did I ever tell you about that when
I wrote about Jimmy Johnson taking mental health day? God,
that was classic. No.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
What happened?

Speaker 8 (19:40):
So like the last year that Jimmy was the coach
of the Dolphins, he was you know, he basically pieced
out by the by the whole thing. You remember, he
told that whole retirement thing at the end of the season,
and then Wayne Hezinga talked him into coming back. You know,
let's do it, you know, and they bring in Wanstead
to be his caddy because once that had just done,

(20:02):
stiff abos dab with the Bears.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
All the pieces were in place.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
That's all.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
All the pieces are in place.

Speaker 8 (20:08):
All the pieces. Yeah, let's let's bring Rick Myra back.
So more Rick Myra. H I sorry, just had to
say it. So anyway, so you know, like basically, Jimmy
has had his melt down and we're all sitting here going, well,

(20:28):
he's out, but I guess they convinced him to do it. Anyways,
and so along the way he had taken a day.
There was supposed to be this I think July meeting.
It was early July or late June meeting where all
the NFL head coaches were supposed to go to Atlanta,
which is literally like a half hour forty five minute flight,

(20:49):
you know, from Fort Lauderdale to go everybody's supposed to attend.
Jimmy goes, nah, send one set right, let wanting to
take this one. Okay, no problems. We get to like
the third day of training camp and I remember walking
to the office and the whole place is empty, and
I'm walking around and going like where is everybody? If
I like, Harvey Green comes down, gus. I don't write this,

(21:12):
but Jimmy gave every other day off, Like this is
day three of training camp, right, yeah, you can't write
that back there. I'm like, yeah, I can't write that.
You don't write that. Yeah, I'm like, Harvey, it's kind
of new. It's like, he goes, look, just well, right now,
I'll give you something else. I'm like, okay, Harvey is

(21:35):
a favorite of you. I won't write this, but like
this is a little weird. He goes, And so we
go around and I kind of tuck it into my
back pocket and we get to writing the season previews story,
and I say, I there he is these two little
items like in about draft ten, about the fact that

(21:57):
you know, Jimmy's not really all in. About seven thirty
that morning, a call from Armando Sigero, going, Jimmy, read
your story today. Don't say anything until I get there.
It's about eight thirty. Get there. Armando shows up. I'm

(22:18):
out there. Jimmy is on the practice field. Literally, he
marches off the practice field, signals for the two of
us to come in and get Stu Weinstein, who's the
head of security in there with Harvey, and he just
unloads on me. This is my MF job, this is
my m you know, like this, and I'm just like

(22:41):
I'm like, and Armando's like, just take it, you know,
just let him have his rant. I'm like, that's okay.
I said what I said. He can he can reply,
you know, That's what I'm thinking to myself. And Armando's
like standing there and all of a sudden, you know,
Jimmy's been yelling at me and yelling at me, and
all of a sudden he looks at armand and you,
by the way, and that's what our mother goes. He goes,

(23:03):
I was counting the number of mfs, he goes, I
lost track at thirteen.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
He's a pretty good run.

Speaker 8 (23:12):
When he looked at me, I lost my consentrate. Can't
imagine I have a way with people. Let's just spend
it that way. But Jimmy, you know, like Jimmy was
out of it by that time, and it showed that year,
like they just you know, it all ended with that

(23:36):
lost in Jacksonville where Fred Taylor probably deserved to make
the Hall of Fame on that game by himself. So Sprinkler,
I remember that was Sprinklers went off in the middle
of the game. It's like, yeah, this is the Dolphins
needed to shower in the first quarter because they were done.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
That was Bo's last game.

Speaker 8 (23:55):
Right, yeah, God, so it was.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Like sixty sixty seven, right.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Yeah, sixty three that it was just I mean again,
it was it was so they were so done. It
was everything they could do too. And I'll give them credit.
They won a playoff game in Seattle the previous week.
It's a pretty tough, pretty tough game. You had to
go cross country and all that. But they were done
in the first quarter, like they were just they were through.

(24:22):
They were absolutely one through in the first in the
first quarter of that game.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
There's your next book, the NFL Games, the worst final
games of NFL careers, not seasons, not EMITTT.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
Smith and a Cardinals, No.

Speaker 8 (24:38):
No, that was. That's that's definitely up there.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
That was.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
Yeah, well that game.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
You could sign that book at Jimmy Johnson's bar.

Speaker 8 (24:46):
And for ye I'm sure Marinos show up those two
good those two. That was. That was. That was a
splendid year for those two. Like as much as Missus
memf to me that many times he and he and
Marino got into it, like multiple times on the field

(25:07):
during practice. The players are telling me like that, you know,
as the season is going, it's like it was completely
and totally like it was so uncomfortable with practice because
those guys would start screaming at each other in the
middle of practice.

Speaker 6 (25:20):
I'll go to the Vikings next year.

Speaker 9 (25:22):
You just watch, Yeah, like the Vikings are gonna call you,
Jason call our guest NFL inside of the Jason Smister
with the Mike Carbon Live from the Tirerack dot Com
Studios so and.

Speaker 8 (25:35):
The Ayahuasca Conference.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Bro Yes, in the Ayahuasca Conference, that's right.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
And I found out no more than three ounces of
that tea you're supposed to have, like it's it's it's
supposed to be.

Speaker 8 (25:47):
You're gliding after that broke. Yeah. I remember I grew up.
I grew up in the San Fernando Valley.

Speaker 6 (25:56):
Are you gonna say you're okay to night?

Speaker 8 (25:58):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Bill talks tolerance.

Speaker 8 (26:01):
The surfers, the stoner surfers that I went to school with. Man,
Oh it was it was all Sean pennisol Man those
When I saw Fast Times at Ridgemont High, I was like,
that's Chris Davis. Man, dude, right there.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
You're following Ben Halen around when they're playing all the
big outdoor parties in the valley. Oh, yeah, this is wonderful. Yeah,
all right, Hey, lastly, but what do you think about this?
We talked about this earlier, uh, you know, the whole thing.
This week we had Jamar Chase standing up for Joe

(26:39):
Burrow saying Pat Who And when I was asked who
his best quarterback, the best quarterback was, and and Burrow says,
what he is? You know, hey, listen, of course it's
Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
He's done it. And Jamar Chase says Pat Who?

Speaker 1 (26:51):
And Travis Kelsey gets mad, saying, don't ever disrespect Patrick Mahomes.
I love this fake fight that's been that's been.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
Going absolutely like this is the best fake fight. Jack
Benny got into it with some comedian back in the
sixties like this is this is like a redo of
that that exact thing, Like let's have a faux argument
that we're like this is we hate each other and
we're going to throw down all of a sudden before
because you said Pat Who? God, okay, guys, I mean

(27:20):
I think it's cute and fun. And I'll say this,
the Kelsey Brothers podcast is pretty sensational. I give him
a lot of credit for that. This is not real.
That's that's not.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Yeah, but you know how this gets even better. Steve
de Seger immediately got in my ear and he said,
exactly who that comedian was.

Speaker 8 (27:48):
Steve Jack Benny and who.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
Fred Allen is in the man's name?

Speaker 8 (27:53):
Oh, I mean that is really that's a great poll
right there. That really is a great poll because those
guys would rip each other. I mean it's really pretty
good stuff. And everybody thought it was real. They thought
there was a real rivalry between the two. And it's
like those guys did dinner like twice a week, so
they had everybody fool It's a it's a it's a

(28:14):
classic TV bit. It's like the first time on TV
where you had a a faux fight between between people.
It's like you know when rock bands throw like pretend
that they're going to throw down. It's like, oh, sure, yeah,
I'm sure Kurt Cobain hates any better. Yeah, I really yeah,
And I'd really love to see those guys get no
fist fights.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Do these guys really now have the legacy that they
invented the the hot takery, faux debate shows.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
They kind of do. They were the they were the
progenitors of the of this. See how a progenitor nice.
How often? How often have you guys got you cleared
your mind? No?

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Honest, when when when I thought, for.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
Oh, I had to read so deep into my head
for that. I'm hurting man, like.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
Reaching.

Speaker 8 (29:06):
You said reach, That was like an sat word that
I studied like seven times.

Speaker 6 (29:16):
It's aahwaska.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
It's different. There's no lazy all right. He's on Twitter
at Jason Cole sixty two.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Uh, the author of eight books, including the upcoming one
on the effects of ayahuasca on the nfl AFC. J
Cole is always buddy, appreciate it me and we'll talk
to you next.

Speaker 8 (29:34):
Actually, we're going to have the effects of ayahuasca on
the on the Hall of Fame voting process.

Speaker 6 (29:38):
That's fantastic.

Speaker 8 (29:41):
We're all going to take it before the next vote.
That's what we're going to do.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
We're going to do R E L j X. Yeah.
I want to see the thirty thirty on that all wrong.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
The Jets are really going to suck man.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Thank you very much about it. Boy.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
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Speaker 3 (30:06):
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Speaker 6 (30:11):
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Speaker 3 (30:14):
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Speaker 2 (30:16):
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Speaker 1 (30:18):
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(30:40):
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Speaker 3 (30:40):
You know me. I hate to say I told you so.
I hate to.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Say might be the most common phrase if we had
a database that could be searched from the last decade.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
You know, But maybe instead of it hates I told
you so, It's got to be more. Remember I told
you a few days ago that Ellie Dale La Cruz
is going to wind up National League MV.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
What did the guy do tonight?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Four for four, youngest rookie to hit for the cycle,
youngest player to hit for the cycle in over fifty years.
The Reds have now won twelve in a row. They
beat the Braves eleven ten. I know that everybody loves
Ronald Acuna and every dag and an update on how
close he is to being the first forty to forty
guy at all there. He's gonna be a thirty to

(31:24):
fifty guy. He's gonna be a twenty five to fifty
five guy. God, yeah, yeah, I get it. But you
know what, what Acunya's doing. The Braves been really good.
We've seen it for a while. The Reds are cutting
through the clutter. They're good for the first time in
a decade. And de la Cruz is a rookie player
who has come up with a tremendous hit factor. Everything

(31:46):
he does goes viral. It's the biggest trending topic in
the United States is what he's done tonight, what he's
done so far in seventy at bats. It's an unbelievable start.
And he's got everybody's attention. And the it's keep going
like this and they win, and dey la Cruz, the
guy's gonna steal things. Already got seven stolen bases himself.

(32:07):
He's got power, he's got speed, he's got everything. He
is the guy right now in Major League Baseball. And
if you think he can't win MVP, just just watch,
just as I remember I told a few days ago
Elie de la Cruz an l MVP.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
Oh, we always love where there's a new story and
a little bit of juice.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
You get a historic franchise, so you start going down
the annals of history. Maybe we'll get a couple of
shots at George Foster in before it's all said and done,
the big red Machine and.

Speaker 6 (32:36):
The throwback kind of stuff. And it's good.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
I mean, Pete Rose put that bet down. He might
not look so dumb in this particular case. It might
work out for him, as it was one of the first,
you know, legal bets and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
So we haven't talked about betting on the reds uh.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
Sin's Pete Roads right, been a long time, had a
long time.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Maybe a little bit of future's money on Joey Vato
for MVP and things of that nature. He's back in
the lineup, which certainly doesn't hurt the pitches that Dela
Cruz is gonna see. But he's just got that superstar
fit about him right getting out there, the big stride,
the first third, the blink of an eye, just sweet swing,

(33:20):
all of it plays to the fans, plays to his
teammates after big hits, all of that stuff. He's a
good young face of the game. Or whenever you can
get one of those historic franchises back in Jason, you.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
Know that people love it.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
Twelve straight wins now, best mark they've had since nineteen
fifty seven, and whenever you can do.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
And it's like we do with Otani and.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Others, like, all right, let's put him up against the
Alzheimer's here. When was the last time this happened?

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Here?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Right, He's this first guy to hit for the cycle
and steal a base by the end of the sixth inning.
In one hundred years, all of these things he'll get
to get overtime.

Speaker 6 (33:56):
Computers are smoking over at stats inc over him.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
It's amazing what he is doing. And I'm telling you
think he can't do it. He doesn't really have the competition, right,
cause a lot sometimes it's about, hey, if he was
in the American League, well, well, it looks like Otani's
gonna win again because he's having even a better year
than he's had.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
He's won the MVP before.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
But you're thinking about the competition and it's not that
he's got you know, he's up against Aaron judge hitting.
You know he's gonna hit sixty five home runs. Look,
Luisa Riaz is hitting four h two right now. If
he hits four hundred, hey we'll deal with that. That'll
be awesome. But he's not gonna hit four hundred. You're
looking at someone who sees you look at the competition.
What the field is is at a Day La Cruz NLMVP,

(34:36):
it is open there for him because the Reds can
cut through the clutter. This is something we haven't seen,
as you said, traditional teams. When they're good, it's great
for Major League Baseball. They're a big story. Twelve in
a row, biggest win streak since before nineteen hundred. And
here's the guy who's the face of all of it.
Because this win streak coincides with when they brought him up, right,
like when did they hit when did they hit this

(34:58):
big streak twelve in a row? And now it was
like like he's like twelve and two. I think that
when they brought day la Cruz up here, it is
I mean that goes hand in hand.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Look at the streak De la Cruz. You think you
can't win MVP? Telling you man, look out.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
I like chaos and that's what it does whenever you
have a call up that starts to set the world
on fire. And look, Corbyn, Carroll's gonna get him a
run for his money, both for Rookie of the Year
and eventually for MVP. And you've got a couple of
other hurdles to jump. But why not, why not? It's
a great story here in June. And maybe they fade,
maybe they're terrible. You know what the story is today?

Speaker 1 (35:32):
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Speaker 6 (35:46):
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