June 7, 2023 • 37 mins
Arnie Spainer and Steve DeSaegher in for Jason Smith and Mike Marmon voice their displeasure with the PGA Tour and LIV Golf Merger. MLB Network Insider Jon Paul Morosi joins the guys to talk about Jacob deGrom getting Tommy John surgery. The guys discuss some notable unbreakable sports records.
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(00:51):
Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon. Though I thought
I was working with Colin tonight, but we got the segar.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I thought I was working with Jason, so we're disappointed.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Wow, I always compared you to Colin.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Come on, now, wait a minute. Your analogy is a
fantasy because he's never gonna be co hosting in this slot.
Mine was the reality because they called and said, literally,
do you want to co host with Jason? And I
said yes, you never know what.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Colin's maybe out at dinner and then stops by the studio.
We go, yeah, come on, Colin.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I'm not sure he knows where our studio is.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
To be honest, I'm not even sure he knows who
we are, to be honest about that.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Wait a minute, aren't You're the one keeps crying, why
how come I'm not on Colin Show? I should have
guest appearances on Colin show. You keep saying that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well I should. There's no I met Colin once or twice.
I had to speak at a convention right after Colin,
and I'm like, really real because he goes up there
and he's like, yeah, oh, I go on there.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
He speaks to corporations, all of it.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I go, I got, I get up there and it's
nothing but crickets, you know, I just nothing, kind of
like the show. Yeah, it's just horrible. From calling to me,
it's just just.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Now, you're going to be back in your regular slot
this Sunday night, right.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm filling in Saturday and then yeah, back Sunday.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
To Sunday Night.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Sunday Night.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Wait a minute, are you on with Aaron Torres or
taking his place Saturday?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I scheduled myself.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You did not stop today to fill it with Jason Martin.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm going to be on Saturday Night.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
With Jason Martin. So so the man you co hosted
with last night, Erin Torres, he's taking the night off. Okay,
you are taking his place? Set all right, look forward
to it. I have to I have to get the
night off. What do you want me to do? You
know people need the night off. All of us kind
of roll our eyes when you talk like that, and
we kind of you know, he doesn't have much at
this point, and let him think that he has some
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power in the.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Hallways walking by the way, Like I said, if you
want to get into be part of the show, the
best way is on Twitter. I'm at stinking Genius one.
And you don't want to have anything to do with Twitter,
do you this? Secre?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You're just just put it this way. I think my
life is better without social media in general. It's not
an anti Facebook comment or anything in particular. It's just
I've seen me and my life and some of my
friends and their lives, and I think I made the
right choice.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Oh you should read with some of the stuff that
I get. I mean, it's not as bad as you
read it.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
On the air.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That's the amazing thing. Good bed you'll read it. Yeah,
not as bad as Kway Travis. But there there's some
bad ones out there, all right. We were talking about
the Live PGA merger, you know, real quick, I just
want to read a tweet that came in from Brendon
that said, the Live PGA merger doesn't bother me in
the grand scheme of things. It's practically ever major corporation
we do business with on a daily basis true, you know,
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or to the to the Saudis, it'd be hit critical
on our part to judge the organization when we kiss
their backsides daily. We do do a lot of stuff,
you know. When Basard was going through that list of
all those businesses.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, the show for us tonight, I knew there was.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
A lot, but it really hits home when you hear
the names coming out. I mean, they're like major corporations
right here in the United.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
With all sorts of corporations and shenanigans. We think Apple's
this great historic, modern American corporation, and then when you
find out what they do to hide money and go
overseas and not pay taxes, they're really not quite the
proud Americans that we might have thought before. You could
come with any I mean almost any major corporation and
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find they have ties you probably wouldn't approve of. For example,
I go back to the NBA and Lebron and China.
Analogy is there's a lot that goes on in China
that we as Americans object to for the same reason
we object to the Soud East Right. It's denial of rights,
it's a lack of freedom, it's autocratic, it's all of that.
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But you get in bed with them in business and
you make your money as an American athlete or as
an American company, and then you just kind of put
all the rest to that to the side. Okay, that's
your decision. But then if you're a Lebron James, who
I brought up as an example an hour ago, then
you can't say, oh, that general manager shouldn't have made
a comment about people protesting for freedom against China. Well
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wait a minute, you're in bed with them. You have
freedoms that they want what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
No, one hundred percent correct on that, And we don't
know how it's going to affect the tur the tour anyway.
We don't know if it's gonna be fifty four holes
or they're going to do seventy two. I assume they'll
stay at seventy two.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I assume because that's championship golf, and the PGA Tour
can still run its own rules. It's not like some
Saudi is gonna be at the head of the rules
committee or anything. It's what they are is running commercial operations,
so businesses investments, that side of things. The board of
director has a Saudi chair of this new combined organization.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You know what's going to be interesting. The Live Tour
was having a really tough time getting sponsors rights. Who's
gonna be the first to sign up? Now? Are there
gonna be people to sign up our companies because they'll say, no, we.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
With this new merger, this new merger, with a new merger. Right, Yeah,
that's a good question because initially the PGA made sure
to point out the Saudi Investment Fund will initially be
the exclusive investor in this new venture. Are they saying
that because what you're saying you're not gonna get anybody
else to be second in through the door anytime soon.
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And so of course they'll initially be exclusive because who
else are you gonna convince to get in bed with them. Also,
this is a bad, bad PR day for them. It's
gonna blow over, because most things in life and in
business do blow over. But this is not a good
PR day, and this is a business. This is now
PGA Tour. People don't realize this golf. It's the tax
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exempt things. I've covered LPGA events where they talk about
the charities that they raise money for at that particular
tour stop. It's not like Made League Baseball or the
NFL with its massive profits. The PGA Tour Incorporated will
still exist, it will still stay tax exempt. Technically, it's
a separate new organization now that's being formed, unifying pro Golf,
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and it is very much a for profit entity.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Can you imagine some of the guys of the PGA
of trying to call Monahan, of saying, you're not going
straight the voicemails, answer your text I'm texting you, answer
your phone, answer your phone.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Well, we got a major coming up, So he's gonna
have to face the music.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Some tonight to the guys or no, what do you
think is it? Or is it going to straight the
voice man?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I think he's just let's use the word cheesy enough
not to answer his phone tonight, just straight the voice
to late. Let everything blow over. He's gonna have a
tour event as they do most weeks, going on this
week and then you know this is going to be
the talk of next week.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Steve the Seger, Arnie Spaniard right here on Fox Sports Radio.
You can go ahead and sweet me at steak and
g just one. Now. I saw this to say, this
is right up your alley. I would have put you
on the spot because I'm not gonna give you any
heads up notice, so you'd have to go off the
top of your head unless you have a computer near you.
This was on a tweet like baseballhistorynut dot com or
something like that, and they were talking about the hardest
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Major League Baseball records to break. There too was Cal
Ripken Jr. Two thousand and six and thirty two consecutive
games and Joe DiMaggio's fifty six game hitting streak. If
we're gonna talk about unbreakable records, and you could do
it in any sport. We'll have a little fun with that.
I would have in baseball, said Johnny Vandermere. That's right,
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back to back no hitters. That means you'd have to
go back to back to back no hitters to break that.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, and you have to pitch the whole game, which
doesn't even happen right.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Right exactly, so you could that. That to me, is
more unbreakable than Joe DiMaggio's fifty six game hitting streak.
And why do I feel like, especially now you brought
this up yesterday, I believe about all the one hundred
hitters or people near four hundred.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
At this point of a season, it's only a matter.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Of time before somebody breaks Joe di Maggio's fifty six
game hitting streak, Is it not? Or what?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
There's a mass amount of media compared to boy even
two decades ago, much less back when Joe Dematio played.
I don't know about the twenty four hour pressure if
that really would lend itself to even breaking Pete Rose's
forty four game hitting stick.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Really, because I would think that, you know, with you know,
especially with all the bad teams out there, you could
keep it going, you know, especially if you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Go over there, but you're gonna have to play everybody
over the course of fifty seven consecutive games, and all
it takes is one night where either you have to
leave early hurt, or you get a walk in a
fielder's choice and then pop up a couple of times,
or just don't get a hold of one. Just one
bad night ruins the whole streak. I think for that reason,
given the list that you gave, Joe Demagio's fifty six
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game hitting streak would be the hardest to break, but
they are a career that will never be broken. Like
Cy Young with the most wins. That's why the pitching
Award is named for Cy Young. You would have to
win what does he want?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
What did he mean?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Over five hundred games?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
He won, lost five hundred games.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
This was no five man rotation back in the old
old days. You would have to have a twenty five
year career and win twenty games every year for twenty
five years, and you'd still be eleven wins short.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, the stolen base record what Ricky Henderson is that
what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, there's definitely Yeah, starting to.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
The bases, steal a few, but yeah, for like twenty
years or something.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Well over a thousand. Well even in one season he
had way over one hundred stolen bases.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
So I don't see that being broken now, believe it
or not.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
No one Ryan strikeouts. People don't throw as many innings.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Now, Well, that's a good point that that's gonna take
a let's you have somebody that's just gonna be blowing
them down every time. That sound's gonna be really tough
to to go ahead and break that one. That's again,
that's probably gonna be tougher than the fifty six games.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Even with people striking out more these days, I mean,
how are you gonna get five thousand, eight hundred strikeouts
career to break Nolan Ryan's bark. He pitched into his
mid forties and pitched deep into games into his mid forties.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
You know what record is going to go down now.
It might not be in the NBA at first, I
don't know, maybe it will be in women's basketball or something.
But when Will scored one hundred points, I could see
someone scored one hundred points in the game, you know,
like a professional game, well professional game. But even if
it's women's basketball in college, you know, one of those
block games. I could see it that thing. But in
the NBA, I could definitely see it going on. You
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know what I mean, I get the hundred. Yeah, maybe
like a triple overtime game or something.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
You know, Kobe's game was. I was watching that night
Live eighty one one, and he had to They were
down twenty as I recalled to Toronto that night. It
was a Sunday night game, right, and the Laker announcer
Joel Myers missed the game because he was doing radio
on football that night, and so Bill McDonald stepped in
for one game, and it was that game forever he
has the call of Kobe's any one point game, you know,
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you would have to do essentially twenty points better than that.
Twenty points is a full game for most scores. You
would have to do twenty points better than the best
we've ever seen in our lifetimes. That's astounding.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, you'd have to get it a track beat, There's
no doubt about that. It's got to be one of
those up.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And down games, or a lot of free throws, scoring
with the clock stop, things like that.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Oh, you gotta be hot from the three point line.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Also one of those old Denver Nuggets games like in
the eighties where they used to score one, thirty, one,
forty constantly.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Right, any record in the NHL, you just say what,
Wayne Gretz, that'sky, that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
MVP's in a row scoring assists fastest to forty, fastest
to fifty. At one point he probably held literally every
one of those.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, he's yeah, just about everyone. You're right about that.
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Night Off, want to get right to our guests to
check about an MLB network, the NHL network right here
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on Fox Sports Radio. Our buddy John Paul Morosi, how
you doing JP.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Arnie and Steve, I am outstanding. My friends always love
our conversations. And we've got a great time of year
in the sports calendar. We've got the NHL Stanley Cup Final.
We'll see if Florida can get back on the board.
But a very busy day in Major League Baseball right now.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, and you know I saw the pictures JP out
there in New York. Yeah, the air quality is absolutely off.
I know you were talking to a Harvard professor about this,
what's going on out there.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Well, so there have been some wildfires in eastern Canada,
specifically in Nova Scotia and Quebec. And so when you've
got those wildfires raging and you've got very dry conditions,
and then the wind currents bringing that pollution and the
particles down to the northeast of the US, you get
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these very eerie, soup like skies. And I know, just
landing here in Newark today, I just walking around town,
you really got a sense of what was going on.
And it had a strange taste almost when you sometimes
you're smelling something noxious and it sort of just gets
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into your entire sensory and it was uncomfortable for me. Now,
certainly the players. Obviously there's there's a question there as well,
and there have been issues in the past. You recall
in Seattle a couple of years ago there was a
postponement for an air quality reason on the West Coast.
But so that is something that MLB has looked at
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in the past. I think there's a hope that it
might get a little bit better by tomorrow. But again,
the only thing that's going to should get this better
as if the fire gets under control in Canada, and
if the wind changes direction, and if we get some
precipitation here. So there's a lot of variables there that
certainly go beyond my normal realm of expertise. But it's
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certainly that the pollution and the overall air quality is
impacting life right now in the New York area, and
certainly a baseball is part.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Of that, and air alerts from Minnesota to Massachusetts, not
just New York City Minnesota setting We're not having much
win so this bad era is not moving. As far
as the Yankees, who lost at home three to two
to the White Sox tonight, you had a great stat
that the Yankees have a losing record this season. When
Aaron Judge is not in the starting lineup. I assume
he's going like they say on the il, so he
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won't be starting anytime soon. We're going to get toward
July by the time he comes back, perhaps if they're
still seven and a half eight and a half out
and Tampa Bay's this good. I'm not saying write them
off for winning the East. But it's starting to be
a concern, isn't it, as we had toward All Star Break?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Well, it is, and it's not just Judge. Of course,
Stanton has missed a lot of time this season. He
is back now in the rotation. Nestor Cortez Junior is
back on the injured list as well. That they'll be
calling up a starter from the minor leagues to pitch
tomorrow's games. So there are really a number of issues
the Yankees are dealing with right now, and tonight you
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could tell that with Lucas Giolito on the mountain, as
confident as he was for six innings, the Yankees did
not have a single hit against Giolito. And it's not
just that they don't win games when Judge is not
in the lineup. At least again, they're six to seven.
When he's not in the lineup, they're just not the
same team without him. Defensively, their athleticism isn't the same,
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the presence and the confidence isn't the same. He changes
this team, he drives this team, and when he's not there,
there's not the same energy. And they're gonna have to
find a way, Steven Arny, to address that and to
put together a better effort, because you're right, they're starting
to languish now in the bottom half of this division,
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or at least towards it. And I think Toronto obviously
they have not had a very good start really by
their expectations either. And Alex Buanoa just got sent down
to the lowest levels of the minor leagues today, so
other teams have issues. But and I should clarify by saying,
I don't think the Yankees are in any way going
to move into a seller's posture here, because there are
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enough wild card spots to compete for, and there are
enough teams in this league that are not terribly competitive
that the Yankees still have a reasonable chance to make
the playoffs in one form or another. But you raise
a very good point. What have we seen that makes
us believe the Yankees are about to catch the Rays
or the Orioles and be one of the top two
teams in the division. And to your point, I'm just
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not seeing that right now.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
JP five years, one hundred and eighty five million dollars
Arnie's contract, Yes to Jacob de Gram, what do you say,
I mean, how long he's not going to live up
to that contract, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Well, and that's that's a fair point, Arnie. That now,
when you consider Jacob de Gram and the news is,
of course he's out for the season with elbow surgery.
We don't know if it's going to be the full
Tommy John or an internal bracing of it, but whatever
it is, he's not going to pitch again in twenty
twenty three, and obviously, if it's Tommy John, it's usually
twelve months plus. He's just hoping, if that's the case,
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would be his second Tommy John, and he would just
be hoping to make it back in time for the
playoffs next year in twenty twenty four, year two of
his deal. And and to your point, let's reflect on this.
If he misses all but let's say a handful of
starts next season, which is certainly possible. Then we're going
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to be years into this contract and he will have
made ten starts and at the sum of more than
seventy million dollars in average annual value salaries during that time.
So it's obviously not the way they envision it. And
yet we have to acknowledge that based on how much
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he's been able to pitch or how little he's been
able to pitch the last couple of years, no one
could describe this as a total shock, just based on
the number of injuries that he's dealt with. And yet,
and all that being said, let's remember the human side
to this. And there's video of Jacob speaking with reporters
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today in Arlington, and he was crying the legitimate tears
from him because he wants so much to be on
the mound. He wants to fulfill his contract. He wants
to be out there and compete with his friends and
teammates during what could be an historic season for the Rangers.
They've got the best record in the American League West
to playing tremendous baseball. And I just think there's a
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lot of pain right now, certainly the physical pain, but mentally,
this is a very, very sad day for one of
the bright stars in our game, and I think that's
number one My concern is how he's doing with it
all and the Rangers, though they've actually played pretty good
baseball since he went on the injured list. But there's
also no denying that when the Rangers signed them to
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a contract like that, one of the richest deals ever
for a free agent pitcher, the idea was he was
going to be a huge part of their rotation going
to the World Series, and that is obviously not going
to happen. In twenty twenty three, we're.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Talking with John Morosi, a guy who appears on Fox
and MLB, and the advantage of the kind of life
you have carved out for yourself professionally is the good
stories you come across. Let's talk about too once. You
talked about Texas Rangers, who won their fifth in a
row tonight. They're forty and twenty on the season and
they are just largely killing opponents. Even before tonight's victory,
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they're run differential over one hundred fifty he runs more.
They've scored than their opponents most at this point of
a season since the nineteen thirty nine Yankees. How did
this happen? That's question one, the Rangers. Question two. Liam Hendrix,
He's back, the save, he's pitching. It looks like he'll
be a regular contributor this year. Stunning. These two stories
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not at all the same, but two great.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Stories, two great stories. And let's start with Liam. Of course.
That tonight in New York, he earns his first save
since coming back and since beating cancer. Just an extraordinary
story of his personal strength and his family support and
just the humanity of baseball. He said earlier this year
that I was going to get back and do it,
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and it's amazing. His optimism and his personal strength clearly
won the day in terms of his battle with cancer
on what's been able to do. And I think it's
important for us to remember that as we talked about
Liam's courage, what he did, I think that his optimism
and the way that he looks at life all along
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probably had in the back of our minds, Okay, he's
going to find a way to beat this, and he
has and he's doing it. But we should make sure
that we don't ever lose sight of how hard this
was for him and how daunting the initial diagnosis was
this was not necessarily just a very early stage that
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was discovered. There was some progression going on with this
disease that he had to really beat, and there were
some odds there that he had to overcome to do this.
So I just think it's an important point for us
to remember about just his strength of character, fortitude. What
he's been able to do is just remarkable for one
of the great people in the game. And with respect
to Texas, they are an amazing story and let's remember that.
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Of course, in the pandemic in twenty twenty, they stepped
up and hosted the postseason at their ballpark, where they
were not able to participate in it because of course
they were. They weren't in the playoffs that year, and
I think it's important for us to remember this team
came within an inch or two of a World Series
title in twenty eleven. They have not made it back
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since then. They opened a new ballpark in a year
in which you couldn't have any fans, but there was
a lot They've faced a lot of headwinds, They've gone
through a lot, and I think now having Bruce Bochie
is just a tremendous asset for this team. They've had
players who have come in as free agents like Semion
and Seeger both play well. And Nathaniel Lowe with a
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great story he is and the honor of speaking with
his father, Lieutenant Commander David Lowe earlier in the week,
and David Lowe is going to watch his two sons
play in this highly anticipated series this weekend between the
Rangers and the Rays. So congratulations to Lieutenant Commander Lowe
and his family. So it's just a lot of great
stories in baseball right now. I always feel like June
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is the perfect time to really tune into it if
you've been paying attention to other sports and different things school,
getting out around the country, and it's the perfect time
to get back to the ballpark and and just tune
into all these great stories.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Right now, you had a chance to catch any of
the Panthers, Golden Knight's my friend, it looks like it's
going to be over well.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
So here's here's the interesting part about that. Through two games,
what what I think we've seen affirms what a lot
of us believed when the Sea when the series began,
which was that Vegas has the better and deeper team
and they do. The difference is that with the Panthers,
they were able to beat Carolina in the last series
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because Bobrovsky was amazing in goal and he has not
been amazing so far in the series. And that's really
the story. We can We can carve this up a
bunch of different ways. You can look at all the
analytics and the zone entries and whatever it might be.
The Florida's goalie hadn't played that well and he was
otherworldly up to this point. And so Paul Maurice has
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said Lebrovski is going to start Game three, he'll be
back at home. So so obviously this is the pivotal
moment because Vegas is so talented, they're not going to
lose four games in a row. So Florida's got to
win Game three. The whole world knows that, and I
think that Lebrovski's just got to be better. There's enough
talent there could chuck and have a big game. I'm
(25:17):
a huge fan of Montour Defensively, Saja Barkopf is one
of the great players in the world I think right now.
So they've got plenty of talent to come back in
this series. But it begins in Game three, and it
begins with their goal goalie Lebrovski. He's just got to
be brilliant coming back.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Now.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Vegas up two games to none in the Stanley Cup Final.
Neither franchise Vegas or Florida has ever won the Cup,
but Vegas keeps chasing goalies. They've scored a lot to
open the series and they're hitting on the power play.
The first three rounds they were ten of fifty four
with the man advantage. Now Vegas has scored on the
power play three straight games for the first time since
late December. So on the final they are four of
(25:55):
eleven with the man advantage. It seemed like everything is
going right. Sweep or not. It seems like the trophy
is theirs and they barely existed as a franchise.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Well, they're an amazing story, and of course they've made
it to the Cup final and there in their very
first year. You've got a credit Bill Foley what he
did there as the owner, and George mcpee and Kelly mccrimman.
They've just got really strong leadership, very committed ownership, and
great fans. I've had the pleasure of watching games there
in two different playoffs, and it is one of the
(26:28):
more unique environments that I have encountered in sports. It's amazing,
you know, and and it's you know, for me, I
grew up in Michigan. I'm somewhat of a hockey traditionalist
in a lot of ways, but there has to be
to grow your sport. There's a place in your game
to do things in a different way. And Vegas would
(26:50):
not present a game like they would in Toronto or Montreal.
I've been the games in all three places. They're all different,
and I love that Vegas is not trying to be
someone else. They're trying to be themselves, which is what
I love about it. There's the glitz in the in
the Vegas show to begin to night. It's perfect, it's
and the hockey is great. The fans are really engaged,
(27:13):
and I think to your point about the power play.
You know, Jonathan marciusso has been really good. You know.
He he's in many ways the hard and soul of
this team. He was one of the original Vegas gold
Knights along with Carlston, so yeah, exactly, a former Florida player.
So So Marsoll has gotten going. Their center depth is
much better than it was a couple of years ago.
(27:33):
Michael's been really good, Channon Stevens is really good, Mark
Stone on the wing has been I think excellent as well. So, uh,
they're they're the probably the deepest best version that they've
ever had of the Vegas Golden Knights, and now that
they've gotten the right goaltending too, they're going to be
a tough, tough team to beat. The ballots of this series.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
We were having a little fund last thing before we
let you go. I saw something on Twitter. They were
talking about the most unbreakable records in sports are in baseball.
They listed Cal Ripken Jr. The twenty six two consecutive games,
and of course Joe Debaggio's fifty six game hitting streak.
I brought up the back to back though hitters of
Johnny VanderMeer. You got one that's not going to be broken.
(28:14):
Hack Wilson won eighty one. I don't know. You you
tell me what that's not going to be broken.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
I've got Ripken as being the one.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I just think.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
That that it's it's not only an iconic and historic
record for for who has it now and for whose
record he broke, but but just look at at how
few people have made it halfway to that number or
over a thousand games the usually you know, Steve Garvey
(28:44):
obviously didn't have the national league record. Miguel Tahana for
a long time was was working, working towards a pretty
big number. But you just don't see players play more
than two or three years of one sixty two anymore.
It's just the demands of it are extraordinary. I think
that what cal did, just with the benefit of time
(29:06):
and perspective, it's even more impressive now than it was
the time.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
You're right about that, John Paul Morosi, always a pleasure,
my friend appreciated. Have fun out there and we'll check
you out on MLB.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Sounds great, guys, My pleasure really joyed the conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
All the best, Thank you, all right, John Paul Morosi.
Love it, absolutely love it.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
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Harmon by the way to saga, you know I've been
at the network here now like twelve years. Congratulations, thank you,
(30:26):
thank you. I'm not gonna get watched. No, I don't
think I'm gonna get to watch. But I remember when
they called me and they go, hey, we want you
to work Sundays with some guy from like Mesquike, Oklahoma
or something. I mean, I go, I go, what way?
I go Mesquite?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Don't talk about plank like that.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I go population seven people, I talk to more people.
What I'm saying hello to my neighbor that he's that
he's talking out on the radio there. And now look
at Chris Plank, big deal in Oklahoma, Oklahoma Sooners volley
or volleyball softball. Yeah, played for the championship again and they.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Broke Arizona's record for consecutive wins.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
They almost didn't do that though, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
They were down to their last strike, right, But he's.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
A big deal out there. He's a big shot out there.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
And he's a sideline reporter for the Sooners football.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, yeah, we should bring that up. So Ever since
they partnered us together, I've been as good luck charm
so I've.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I used to work with Chris Plank here when he
had the late Friday show late Saturday as well, so
we would go on after the evening college football and
that included great big twelve games and he worked big well.
It was great. It was great, and in fact, there
was an Olympics I think it was with Kobe playing
basketball for the US that with the time difference, it
was going on live during our late show. You know
(31:42):
how that is when you work odd hours, sometimes something
comes to you that included I had a great time
then working with Chris and now with the both of
you on.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Sunday Friday night. You worked with them Fridays. Yeah, someone
have to take off Fridays. They didn't want to worked.
They won the weekend.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
No, it was late Fridays. It was It was the
kind of shift that Ben has now where he shows
up to the studio at tens. You know, I guess.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, don't ever ask me to fill in for Ben Maller.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Okay, yeah, I hear. That's probably a non starter with you.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, that's that's a deal break.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Do they love you all the fans?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Oh, we just battle for four hours. We just start
screaming at each other. Yeah, it's absolutely horrible out there.
But congratulates with Chris Pike. It's gonna be Oklahoma and
Florida State. Do you watch any of the Yes, absolutely,
men's baseball too that I love that stuff too.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, and then we're gonna have the super Regionals in
NCAA Baseball coming up with wake Forest number one in
the country and Florida number two.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I wonder how many people get into it. I mean,
is that all the people that go to those games
or where they family and friends, they go so crazy.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Well, the softball Oklahoma City is the home of the
Softball Hall of Fame. So if you have the best
team in the country year after year Ian State, it's
a pretty short journey, so they do get great crowds.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
There.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I told Plank he needs to mention me more in
the play by play, like you're.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Trying to hone in on every possible broadcast, radio or
TV you have ever encountered.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Exactly, That's what I'm talking about, And he goes, wow,
that was deep, just like my partner said, they would
hit it that far or something like that.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
You know there, come on, now, wow, that was deep,
Unlike my partner on Sunday Night, Artie Spaniards a.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Mord I got a moron, but cry it out loud.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
That's how he should work you.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
In jeez, a Salvador. This must be by burner accounts,
thinking ging just needs a daily show. He's better than
ninety percent of the other host Why why only ninety percent?
Why not one hundred percent? Aren't you ninety.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Did you construct that NBA ref's burner account? Did you
have some experience and then just create one for yourself
after the fact.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
That's exactly what I did.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Kevin Durant burner account. You just coming down the line.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
What's gonna happen with that ref?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
By the way, what he's not going to get assigned here?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
You have a different crew pretty much every night as
you go through a series.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, but isn't he suspended now? Or no, he's not
suspended at all.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah, I don't see why they would use him now. Oh,
it doesn't mean he'll never have a job.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, I was good. Like is he gonna be able
to continue?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Ref?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Finger? I think I'd be a great ref I'm telling you, man,
I'm not. I think i'd be awesome because if they
gave me any smack, I go say that to me
one more time, and you can hit the locker room,
my friend. It'll be a early night for you, early
night for you.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yannis used apparently to defend the referees of the NBA,
so not surprising he didn't want to do it under
his own name, but yes, he was apparently caught with
this kind of like Kevin Durant had been exposed.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
How many people have burner accounts that are athletes or
actors or actresses or singing right these days? Oh geez,
I can only imagine pay for a check? Hey, real quick,
I want to bring this up because we know now
that Chat and Sharp is leaving undisputed, And yesterday I
brought up that Lashawn McCoy was one of the front
runners for that position. Do you well, how do you
(34:56):
know I'm that second?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Okay, I just know you're honing in on every other
show at your own.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Well, I have a list of five that could possibly
replace Shannon.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Let's hear it, Arnie Spanier. Okay, that's not how I thought.
It was a real list.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Well, you know what, why can't they use me for
I told you the one time I was going to
fill in for Maury Polvich, I was gonna get three No,
I'm serious, I'm not kidding a round, no doubt that
they were. I got a call from the producer and
they needed me to fill in for three days. But
they they gave it to somebody else. I'm like, oh,
I have to Nick Cannon, you are the father. No,
they gave it to the producer of the show. But
(35:31):
I'm like, oh, I would have been great at that.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Oh would I think you would be great on this
show replacing Shannon? Honestly, I think that would be perfect
for you.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I would like to do at least one day I
would't have took have rotating hosts because Lashawan, McCoy joy,
Taylor's name is out there, Emmanuel Accho, Max Kellerman, and
Keishawn Johnson. I think I've read in the New York
Post so interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I could see all of those. All of those have
had mornings and argument shows and sometimes at the same time.
So I think all of that I get it.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I think you need five hosts because I think Skip
is so good at debate that it's so hard to
take him on that you just have one person do it,
like one day a week or something.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I think it would honestly, the more I think about it,
it would work with you and Skip as a team
regularly together on the show because you both whack out
your co hosts so regularly. It would be perfect to
have you two be across the table from each other permanently.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Can you imagine Can you imagine Skip says something that
I just break out the aspen or something I go,
wait a minute too, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, bring crops. That makes a better show. Absolutely, prepare
you know something stupid it's gonna be said, so yeah,
just bring it to the studio.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I would love it, all right. The two hours are
in the books, were at halftime and just getting going
on this busy Tuesday night. You want to be part
of the show, real simple, At Stinking Genius One. Bernie
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(37:00):
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Smith and his best friend Mike Harmon. Though I thought
I was working with Colin tonight, but we got the segar.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I thought I was working with Jason, so we're disappointed.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Wow, I always compared you to Colin.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Come on, now, wait a minute. Your analogy is a
fantasy because he's never gonna be co hosting in this slot.
Mine was the reality because they called and said, literally,
do you want to co host with Jason? And I
said yes, you never know what.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Colin's maybe out at dinner and then stops by the studio.
We go, yeah, come on, Colin.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I'm not sure he knows where our studio is.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
To be honest, I'm not even sure he knows who
we are, to be honest about that.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Wait a minute, aren't You're the one keeps crying, why
how come I'm not on Colin Show? I should have
guest appearances on Colin show. You keep saying that, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Well I should. There's no I met Colin once or twice.
I had to speak at a convention right after Colin,
and I'm like, really real because he goes up there
and he's like, yeah, oh, I go on there.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
He speaks to corporations, all of it.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I go, I got, I get up there and it's
nothing but crickets, you know, I just nothing, kind of
like the show. Yeah, it's just horrible. From calling to me,
it's just just.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Now, you're going to be back in your regular slot
this Sunday night, right.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm filling in Saturday and then yeah, back Sunday.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
To Sunday Night.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Sunday Night.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Wait a minute, are you on with Aaron Torres or
taking his place Saturday?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I scheduled myself.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
You did not stop today to fill it with Jason Martin.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm going to be on Saturday Night.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
With Jason Martin. So so the man you co hosted
with last night, Erin Torres, he's taking the night off. Okay,
you are taking his place? Set all right, look forward
to it. I have to I have to get the
night off. What do you want me to do? You
know people need the night off. All of us kind
of roll our eyes when you talk like that, and
we kind of you know, he doesn't have much at
this point, and let him think that he has some
(02:50):
power in the.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Hallways walking by the way, Like I said, if you
want to get into be part of the show, the
best way is on Twitter. I'm at stinking Genius one.
And you don't want to have anything to do with Twitter,
do you this? Secre?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
You're just just put it this way. I think my
life is better without social media in general. It's not
an anti Facebook comment or anything in particular. It's just
I've seen me and my life and some of my
friends and their lives, and I think I made the
right choice.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Oh you should read with some of the stuff that
I get. I mean, it's not as bad as you
read it.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
On the air.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
That's the amazing thing. Good bed you'll read it. Yeah,
not as bad as Kway Travis. But there there's some
bad ones out there, all right. We were talking about
the Live PGA merger, you know, real quick, I just
want to read a tweet that came in from Brendon
that said, the Live PGA merger doesn't bother me in
the grand scheme of things. It's practically ever major corporation
we do business with on a daily basis true, you know,
(03:45):
or to the to the Saudis, it'd be hit critical
on our part to judge the organization when we kiss
their backsides daily. We do do a lot of stuff,
you know. When Basard was going through that list of
all those businesses.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, the show for us tonight, I knew there was.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
A lot, but it really hits home when you hear
the names coming out. I mean, they're like major corporations
right here in the United.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
With all sorts of corporations and shenanigans. We think Apple's
this great historic, modern American corporation, and then when you
find out what they do to hide money and go
overseas and not pay taxes, they're really not quite the
proud Americans that we might have thought before. You could
come with any I mean almost any major corporation and
(04:31):
find they have ties you probably wouldn't approve of. For example,
I go back to the NBA and Lebron and China.
Analogy is there's a lot that goes on in China
that we as Americans object to for the same reason
we object to the Soud East Right. It's denial of rights,
it's a lack of freedom, it's autocratic, it's all of that.
(04:52):
But you get in bed with them in business and
you make your money as an American athlete or as
an American company, and then you just kind of put
all the rest to that to the side. Okay, that's
your decision. But then if you're a Lebron James, who
I brought up as an example an hour ago, then
you can't say, oh, that general manager shouldn't have made
a comment about people protesting for freedom against China. Well
(05:14):
wait a minute, you're in bed with them. You have
freedoms that they want what's going on here.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
No, one hundred percent correct on that, And we don't
know how it's going to affect the tur the tour anyway.
We don't know if it's gonna be fifty four holes
or they're going to do seventy two. I assume they'll
stay at seventy two.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I assume because that's championship golf, and the PGA Tour
can still run its own rules. It's not like some
Saudi is gonna be at the head of the rules
committee or anything. It's what they are is running commercial operations,
so businesses investments, that side of things. The board of
director has a Saudi chair of this new combined organization.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
You know what's going to be interesting. The Live Tour
was having a really tough time getting sponsors rights. Who's
gonna be the first to sign up? Now? Are there
gonna be people to sign up our companies because they'll say, no, we.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
With this new merger, this new merger, with a new merger. Right, Yeah,
that's a good question because initially the PGA made sure
to point out the Saudi Investment Fund will initially be
the exclusive investor in this new venture. Are they saying
that because what you're saying you're not gonna get anybody
else to be second in through the door anytime soon.
(06:28):
And so of course they'll initially be exclusive because who
else are you gonna convince to get in bed with them. Also,
this is a bad, bad PR day for them. It's
gonna blow over, because most things in life and in
business do blow over. But this is not a good
PR day, and this is a business. This is now
PGA Tour. People don't realize this golf. It's the tax
(06:50):
exempt things. I've covered LPGA events where they talk about
the charities that they raise money for at that particular
tour stop. It's not like Made League Baseball or the
NFL with its massive profits. The PGA Tour Incorporated will
still exist, it will still stay tax exempt. Technically, it's
a separate new organization now that's being formed, unifying pro Golf,
(07:14):
and it is very much a for profit entity.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Can you imagine some of the guys of the PGA
of trying to call Monahan, of saying, you're not going
straight the voicemails, answer your text I'm texting you, answer
your phone, answer your phone.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Well, we got a major coming up, So he's gonna
have to face the music.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Some tonight to the guys or no, what do you
think is it? Or is it going to straight the
voice man?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
I think he's just let's use the word cheesy enough
not to answer his phone tonight, just straight the voice
to late. Let everything blow over. He's gonna have a
tour event as they do most weeks, going on this
week and then you know this is going to be
the talk of next week.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Steve the Seger, Arnie Spaniard right here on Fox Sports Radio.
You can go ahead and sweet me at steak and
g just one. Now. I saw this to say, this
is right up your alley. I would have put you
on the spot because I'm not gonna give you any
heads up notice, so you'd have to go off the
top of your head unless you have a computer near you.
This was on a tweet like baseballhistorynut dot com or
something like that, and they were talking about the hardest
(08:16):
Major League Baseball records to break. There too was Cal
Ripken Jr. Two thousand and six and thirty two consecutive
games and Joe DiMaggio's fifty six game hitting streak. If
we're gonna talk about unbreakable records, and you could do
it in any sport. We'll have a little fun with that.
I would have in baseball, said Johnny Vandermere. That's right,
(08:38):
back to back no hitters. That means you'd have to
go back to back to back no hitters to break that.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Yeah, and you have to pitch the whole game, which
doesn't even happen right.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Right exactly, so you could that. That to me, is
more unbreakable than Joe DiMaggio's fifty six game hitting streak.
And why do I feel like, especially now you brought
this up yesterday, I believe about all the one hundred
hitters or people near four hundred.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
At this point of a season, it's only a matter.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Of time before somebody breaks Joe di Maggio's fifty six
game hitting streak, Is it not? Or what?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
There's a mass amount of media compared to boy even
two decades ago, much less back when Joe Dematio played.
I don't know about the twenty four hour pressure if
that really would lend itself to even breaking Pete Rose's
forty four game hitting stick.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Really, because I would think that, you know, with you know,
especially with all the bad teams out there, you could
keep it going, you know, especially if you're gonna.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Go over there, but you're gonna have to play everybody
over the course of fifty seven consecutive games, and all
it takes is one night where either you have to
leave early hurt, or you get a walk in a
fielder's choice and then pop up a couple of times,
or just don't get a hold of one. Just one
bad night ruins the whole streak. I think for that reason,
given the list that you gave, Joe Demagio's fifty six
(09:55):
game hitting streak would be the hardest to break, but
they are a career that will never be broken. Like
Cy Young with the most wins. That's why the pitching
Award is named for Cy Young. You would have to
win what does he want?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
What did he mean?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Over five hundred games?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
He won, lost five hundred games.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
This was no five man rotation back in the old
old days. You would have to have a twenty five
year career and win twenty games every year for twenty
five years, and you'd still be eleven wins short.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, the stolen base record what Ricky Henderson is that
what it is? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Yeah, there's definitely Yeah, starting to.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
The bases, steal a few, but yeah, for like twenty
years or something.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Well over a thousand. Well even in one season he
had way over one hundred stolen bases.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
So I don't see that being broken now, believe it
or not.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
No one Ryan strikeouts. People don't throw as many innings.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Now, Well, that's a good point that that's gonna take
a let's you have somebody that's just gonna be blowing
them down every time. That sound's gonna be really tough
to to go ahead and break that one. That's again,
that's probably gonna be tougher than the fifty six games.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Even with people striking out more these days, I mean,
how are you gonna get five thousand, eight hundred strikeouts
career to break Nolan Ryan's bark. He pitched into his
mid forties and pitched deep into games into his mid forties.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
You know what record is going to go down now.
It might not be in the NBA at first, I
don't know, maybe it will be in women's basketball or something.
But when Will scored one hundred points, I could see
someone scored one hundred points in the game, you know,
like a professional game, well professional game. But even if
it's women's basketball in college, you know, one of those
block games. I could see it that thing. But in
the NBA, I could definitely see it going on. You
(11:29):
know what I mean, I get the hundred. Yeah, maybe
like a triple overtime game or something.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
You know, Kobe's game was. I was watching that night
Live eighty one one, and he had to They were
down twenty as I recalled to Toronto that night. It
was a Sunday night game, right, and the Laker announcer
Joel Myers missed the game because he was doing radio
on football that night, and so Bill McDonald stepped in
for one game, and it was that game forever he
has the call of Kobe's any one point game, you know,
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you would have to do essentially twenty points better than that.
Twenty points is a full game for most scores. You
would have to do twenty points better than the best
we've ever seen in our lifetimes. That's astounding.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, you'd have to get it a track beat, There's
no doubt about that. It's got to be one of
those up.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
And down games, or a lot of free throws, scoring
with the clock stop, things like that.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Oh, you gotta be hot from the three point line.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Also one of those old Denver Nuggets games like in
the eighties where they used to score one, thirty, one,
forty constantly.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Right, any record in the NHL, you just say what,
Wayne Gretz, that'sky, that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
MVP's in a row scoring assists fastest to forty, fastest
to fifty. At one point he probably held literally every
one of those.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, he's yeah, just about everyone. You're right about that.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
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Speaker 3 (12:54):
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Night Off, want to get right to our guests to
check about an MLB network, the NHL network right here
(13:18):
on Fox Sports Radio. Our buddy John Paul Morosi, how
you doing JP.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Arnie and Steve, I am outstanding. My friends always love
our conversations. And we've got a great time of year
in the sports calendar. We've got the NHL Stanley Cup Final.
We'll see if Florida can get back on the board.
But a very busy day in Major League Baseball right now.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Yeah, and you know I saw the pictures JP out
there in New York. Yeah, the air quality is absolutely off.
I know you were talking to a Harvard professor about this,
what's going on out there.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
Well, so there have been some wildfires in eastern Canada,
specifically in Nova Scotia and Quebec. And so when you've
got those wildfires raging and you've got very dry conditions,
and then the wind currents bringing that pollution and the
particles down to the northeast of the US, you get
(14:12):
these very eerie, soup like skies. And I know, just
landing here in Newark today, I just walking around town,
you really got a sense of what was going on.
And it had a strange taste almost when you sometimes
you're smelling something noxious and it sort of just gets
(14:33):
into your entire sensory and it was uncomfortable for me. Now,
certainly the players. Obviously there's there's a question there as well,
and there have been issues in the past. You recall
in Seattle a couple of years ago there was a
postponement for an air quality reason on the West Coast.
But so that is something that MLB has looked at
(14:53):
in the past. I think there's a hope that it
might get a little bit better by tomorrow. But again,
the only thing that's going to should get this better
as if the fire gets under control in Canada, and
if the wind changes direction, and if we get some
precipitation here. So there's a lot of variables there that
certainly go beyond my normal realm of expertise. But it's
(15:13):
certainly that the pollution and the overall air quality is
impacting life right now in the New York area, and
certainly a baseball is part.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Of that, and air alerts from Minnesota to Massachusetts, not
just New York City Minnesota setting We're not having much
win so this bad era is not moving. As far
as the Yankees, who lost at home three to two
to the White Sox tonight, you had a great stat
that the Yankees have a losing record this season. When
Aaron Judge is not in the starting lineup. I assume
he's going like they say on the il, so he
(15:45):
won't be starting anytime soon. We're going to get toward
July by the time he comes back, perhaps if they're
still seven and a half eight and a half out
and Tampa Bay's this good. I'm not saying write them
off for winning the East. But it's starting to be
a concern, isn't it, as we had toward All Star Break?
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Well, it is, and it's not just Judge. Of course,
Stanton has missed a lot of time this season. He
is back now in the rotation. Nestor Cortez Junior is
back on the injured list as well. That they'll be
calling up a starter from the minor leagues to pitch
tomorrow's games. So there are really a number of issues
the Yankees are dealing with right now, and tonight you
(16:24):
could tell that with Lucas Giolito on the mountain, as
confident as he was for six innings, the Yankees did
not have a single hit against Giolito. And it's not
just that they don't win games when Judge is not
in the lineup. At least again, they're six to seven.
When he's not in the lineup, they're just not the
same team without him. Defensively, their athleticism isn't the same,
(16:49):
the presence and the confidence isn't the same. He changes
this team, he drives this team, and when he's not there,
there's not the same energy. And they're gonna have to
find a way, Steven Arny, to address that and to
put together a better effort, because you're right, they're starting
to languish now in the bottom half of this division,
(17:10):
or at least towards it. And I think Toronto obviously
they have not had a very good start really by
their expectations either. And Alex Buanoa just got sent down
to the lowest levels of the minor leagues today, so
other teams have issues. But and I should clarify by saying,
I don't think the Yankees are in any way going
to move into a seller's posture here, because there are
(17:33):
enough wild card spots to compete for, and there are
enough teams in this league that are not terribly competitive
that the Yankees still have a reasonable chance to make
the playoffs in one form or another. But you raise
a very good point. What have we seen that makes
us believe the Yankees are about to catch the Rays
or the Orioles and be one of the top two
teams in the division. And to your point, I'm just
(17:56):
not seeing that right now.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
JP five years, one hundred and eighty five million dollars
Arnie's contract, Yes to Jacob de Gram, what do you say,
I mean, how long he's not going to live up
to that contract, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Well, and that's that's a fair point, Arnie. That now,
when you consider Jacob de Gram and the news is,
of course he's out for the season with elbow surgery.
We don't know if it's going to be the full
Tommy John or an internal bracing of it, but whatever
it is, he's not going to pitch again in twenty
twenty three, and obviously, if it's Tommy John, it's usually
twelve months plus. He's just hoping, if that's the case,
(18:39):
would be his second Tommy John, and he would just
be hoping to make it back in time for the
playoffs next year in twenty twenty four, year two of
his deal. And and to your point, let's reflect on this.
If he misses all but let's say a handful of
starts next season, which is certainly possible. Then we're going
(18:59):
to be years into this contract and he will have
made ten starts and at the sum of more than
seventy million dollars in average annual value salaries during that time.
So it's obviously not the way they envision it. And
yet we have to acknowledge that based on how much
(19:20):
he's been able to pitch or how little he's been
able to pitch the last couple of years, no one
could describe this as a total shock, just based on
the number of injuries that he's dealt with. And yet,
and all that being said, let's remember the human side
to this. And there's video of Jacob speaking with reporters
(19:41):
today in Arlington, and he was crying the legitimate tears
from him because he wants so much to be on
the mound. He wants to fulfill his contract. He wants
to be out there and compete with his friends and
teammates during what could be an historic season for the Rangers.
They've got the best record in the American League West
to playing tremendous baseball. And I just think there's a
(20:03):
lot of pain right now, certainly the physical pain, but mentally,
this is a very, very sad day for one of
the bright stars in our game, and I think that's
number one My concern is how he's doing with it
all and the Rangers, though they've actually played pretty good
baseball since he went on the injured list. But there's
also no denying that when the Rangers signed them to
(20:24):
a contract like that, one of the richest deals ever
for a free agent pitcher, the idea was he was
going to be a huge part of their rotation going
to the World Series, and that is obviously not going
to happen. In twenty twenty three, we're.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Talking with John Morosi, a guy who appears on Fox
and MLB, and the advantage of the kind of life
you have carved out for yourself professionally is the good
stories you come across. Let's talk about too once. You
talked about Texas Rangers, who won their fifth in a
row tonight. They're forty and twenty on the season and
they are just largely killing opponents. Even before tonight's victory,
(20:57):
they're run differential over one hundred fifty he runs more.
They've scored than their opponents most at this point of
a season since the nineteen thirty nine Yankees. How did
this happen? That's question one, the Rangers. Question two. Liam Hendrix,
He's back, the save, he's pitching. It looks like he'll
be a regular contributor this year. Stunning. These two stories
(21:20):
not at all the same, but two great.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Stories, two great stories. And let's start with Liam. Of course.
That tonight in New York, he earns his first save
since coming back and since beating cancer. Just an extraordinary
story of his personal strength and his family support and
just the humanity of baseball. He said earlier this year
that I was going to get back and do it,
(21:44):
and it's amazing. His optimism and his personal strength clearly
won the day in terms of his battle with cancer
on what's been able to do. And I think it's
important for us to remember that as we talked about
Liam's courage, what he did, I think that his optimism
and the way that he looks at life all along
(22:05):
probably had in the back of our minds, Okay, he's
going to find a way to beat this, and he
has and he's doing it. But we should make sure
that we don't ever lose sight of how hard this
was for him and how daunting the initial diagnosis was
this was not necessarily just a very early stage that
(22:26):
was discovered. There was some progression going on with this
disease that he had to really beat, and there were
some odds there that he had to overcome to do this.
So I just think it's an important point for us
to remember about just his strength of character, fortitude. What
he's been able to do is just remarkable for one
of the great people in the game. And with respect
to Texas, they are an amazing story and let's remember that.
(22:50):
Of course, in the pandemic in twenty twenty, they stepped
up and hosted the postseason at their ballpark, where they
were not able to participate in it because of course
they were. They weren't in the playoffs that year, and
I think it's important for us to remember this team
came within an inch or two of a World Series
title in twenty eleven. They have not made it back
(23:10):
since then. They opened a new ballpark in a year
in which you couldn't have any fans, but there was
a lot They've faced a lot of headwinds, They've gone
through a lot, and I think now having Bruce Bochie
is just a tremendous asset for this team. They've had
players who have come in as free agents like Semion
and Seeger both play well. And Nathaniel Lowe with a
(23:31):
great story he is and the honor of speaking with
his father, Lieutenant Commander David Lowe earlier in the week,
and David Lowe is going to watch his two sons
play in this highly anticipated series this weekend between the
Rangers and the Rays. So congratulations to Lieutenant Commander Lowe
and his family. So it's just a lot of great
stories in baseball right now. I always feel like June
(23:52):
is the perfect time to really tune into it if
you've been paying attention to other sports and different things school,
getting out around the country, and it's the perfect time
to get back to the ballpark and and just tune
into all these great stories.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Right now, you had a chance to catch any of
the Panthers, Golden Knight's my friend, it looks like it's
going to be over well.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
So here's here's the interesting part about that. Through two games,
what what I think we've seen affirms what a lot
of us believed when the Sea when the series began,
which was that Vegas has the better and deeper team
and they do. The difference is that with the Panthers,
they were able to beat Carolina in the last series
(24:33):
because Bobrovsky was amazing in goal and he has not
been amazing so far in the series. And that's really
the story. We can We can carve this up a
bunch of different ways. You can look at all the
analytics and the zone entries and whatever it might be.
The Florida's goalie hadn't played that well and he was
otherworldly up to this point. And so Paul Maurice has
(24:55):
said Lebrovski is going to start Game three, he'll be
back at home. So so obviously this is the pivotal
moment because Vegas is so talented, they're not going to
lose four games in a row. So Florida's got to
win Game three. The whole world knows that, and I
think that Lebrovski's just got to be better. There's enough
talent there could chuck and have a big game. I'm
(25:17):
a huge fan of Montour Defensively, Saja Barkopf is one
of the great players in the world I think right now.
So they've got plenty of talent to come back in
this series. But it begins in Game three, and it
begins with their goal goalie Lebrovski. He's just got to
be brilliant coming back.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Now.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Vegas up two games to none in the Stanley Cup Final.
Neither franchise Vegas or Florida has ever won the Cup,
but Vegas keeps chasing goalies. They've scored a lot to
open the series and they're hitting on the power play.
The first three rounds they were ten of fifty four
with the man advantage. Now Vegas has scored on the
power play three straight games for the first time since
late December. So on the final they are four of
(25:55):
eleven with the man advantage. It seemed like everything is
going right. Sweep or not. It seems like the trophy
is theirs and they barely existed as a franchise.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Well, they're an amazing story, and of course they've made
it to the Cup final and there in their very
first year. You've got a credit Bill Foley what he
did there as the owner, and George mcpee and Kelly mccrimman.
They've just got really strong leadership, very committed ownership, and
great fans. I've had the pleasure of watching games there
in two different playoffs, and it is one of the
(26:28):
more unique environments that I have encountered in sports. It's amazing,
you know, and and it's you know, for me, I
grew up in Michigan. I'm somewhat of a hockey traditionalist
in a lot of ways, but there has to be
to grow your sport. There's a place in your game
to do things in a different way. And Vegas would
(26:50):
not present a game like they would in Toronto or Montreal.
I've been the games in all three places. They're all different,
and I love that Vegas is not trying to be
someone else. They're trying to be themselves, which is what
I love about it. There's the glitz in the in
the Vegas show to begin to night. It's perfect, it's
and the hockey is great. The fans are really engaged,
(27:13):
and I think to your point about the power play.
You know, Jonathan marciusso has been really good. You know.
He he's in many ways the hard and soul of
this team. He was one of the original Vegas gold
Knights along with Carlston, so yeah, exactly, a former Florida player.
So So Marsoll has gotten going. Their center depth is
much better than it was a couple of years ago.
(27:33):
Michael's been really good, Channon Stevens is really good, Mark
Stone on the wing has been I think excellent as well. So, uh,
they're they're the probably the deepest best version that they've
ever had of the Vegas Golden Knights, and now that
they've gotten the right goaltending too, they're going to be
a tough, tough team to beat. The ballots of this series.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
We were having a little fund last thing before we
let you go. I saw something on Twitter. They were
talking about the most unbreakable records in sports are in baseball.
They listed Cal Ripken Jr. The twenty six two consecutive games,
and of course Joe Debaggio's fifty six game hitting streak.
I brought up the back to back though hitters of
Johnny VanderMeer. You got one that's not going to be broken.
(28:14):
Hack Wilson won eighty one. I don't know. You you
tell me what that's not going to be broken.
Speaker 5 (28:18):
I've got Ripken as being the one.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
I just think.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
That that it's it's not only an iconic and historic
record for for who has it now and for whose
record he broke, but but just look at at how
few people have made it halfway to that number or
over a thousand games the usually you know, Steve Garvey
(28:44):
obviously didn't have the national league record. Miguel Tahana for
a long time was was working, working towards a pretty
big number. But you just don't see players play more
than two or three years of one sixty two anymore.
It's just the demands of it are extraordinary. I think
that what cal did, just with the benefit of time
(29:06):
and perspective, it's even more impressive now than it was
the time.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
You're right about that, John Paul Morosi, always a pleasure,
my friend appreciated. Have fun out there and we'll check
you out on MLB.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
Sounds great, guys, My pleasure really joyed the conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
All the best, Thank you, all right, John Paul Morosi.
Love it, absolutely love it.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
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Harmon by the way to saga, you know I've been
at the network here now like twelve years. Congratulations, thank you,
(30:26):
thank you. I'm not gonna get watched. No, I don't
think I'm gonna get to watch. But I remember when
they called me and they go, hey, we want you
to work Sundays with some guy from like Mesquike, Oklahoma
or something. I mean, I go, I go, what way?
I go Mesquite?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Don't talk about plank like that.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
I go population seven people, I talk to more people.
What I'm saying hello to my neighbor that he's that
he's talking out on the radio there. And now look
at Chris Plank, big deal in Oklahoma, Oklahoma Sooners volley
or volleyball softball. Yeah, played for the championship again and they.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Broke Arizona's record for consecutive wins.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
They almost didn't do that though, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
They were down to their last strike, right, But he's.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
A big deal out there. He's a big shot out there.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
And he's a sideline reporter for the Sooners football.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, yeah, we should bring that up. So Ever since
they partnered us together, I've been as good luck charm
so I've.
Speaker 4 (31:21):
I used to work with Chris Plank here when he
had the late Friday show late Saturday as well, so
we would go on after the evening college football and
that included great big twelve games and he worked big well.
It was great. It was great, and in fact, there
was an Olympics I think it was with Kobe playing
basketball for the US that with the time difference, it
was going on live during our late show. You know
(31:42):
how that is when you work odd hours, sometimes something
comes to you that included I had a great time
then working with Chris and now with the both of
you on.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Sunday Friday night. You worked with them Fridays. Yeah, someone
have to take off Fridays. They didn't want to worked.
They won the weekend.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
No, it was late Fridays. It was It was the
kind of shift that Ben has now where he shows
up to the studio at tens. You know, I guess.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, don't ever ask me to fill in for Ben Maller.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Okay, yeah, I hear. That's probably a non starter with you.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, that's that's a deal break.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Do they love you all the fans?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
Oh, we just battle for four hours. We just start
screaming at each other. Yeah, it's absolutely horrible out there.
But congratulates with Chris Pike. It's gonna be Oklahoma and
Florida State. Do you watch any of the Yes, absolutely,
men's baseball too that I love that stuff too.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah, and then we're gonna have the super Regionals in
NCAA Baseball coming up with wake Forest number one in
the country and Florida number two.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I wonder how many people get into it. I mean,
is that all the people that go to those games
or where they family and friends, they go so crazy.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Well, the softball Oklahoma City is the home of the
Softball Hall of Fame. So if you have the best
team in the country year after year Ian State, it's
a pretty short journey, so they do get great crowds.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
There.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I told Plank he needs to mention me more in
the play by play, like you're.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Trying to hone in on every possible broadcast, radio or
TV you have ever encountered.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Exactly, That's what I'm talking about, And he goes, wow,
that was deep, just like my partner said, they would
hit it that far or something like that.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
You know there, come on, now, wow, that was deep,
Unlike my partner on Sunday Night, Artie Spaniards a.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Mord I got a moron, but cry it out loud.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
That's how he should work you.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
In jeez, a Salvador. This must be by burner accounts,
thinking ging just needs a daily show. He's better than
ninety percent of the other host Why why only ninety percent?
Why not one hundred percent? Aren't you ninety.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Did you construct that NBA ref's burner account? Did you
have some experience and then just create one for yourself
after the fact.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
That's exactly what I did.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Kevin Durant burner account. You just coming down the line.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
What's gonna happen with that ref?
Speaker 4 (33:48):
By the way, what he's not going to get assigned here?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Right?
Speaker 4 (33:50):
You have a different crew pretty much every night as
you go through a series.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, but isn't he suspended now? Or no, he's not
suspended at all.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah, I don't see why they would use him now. Oh,
it doesn't mean he'll never have a job.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Yeah, I was good. Like is he gonna be able
to continue?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Ref?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Finger? I think I'd be a great ref I'm telling you, man,
I'm not. I think i'd be awesome because if they
gave me any smack, I go say that to me
one more time, and you can hit the locker room,
my friend. It'll be a early night for you, early
night for you.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Yannis used apparently to defend the referees of the NBA,
so not surprising he didn't want to do it under
his own name, but yes, he was apparently caught with
this kind of like Kevin Durant had been exposed.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
How many people have burner accounts that are athletes or
actors or actresses or singing right these days? Oh geez,
I can only imagine pay for a check? Hey, real quick,
I want to bring this up because we know now
that Chat and Sharp is leaving undisputed, And yesterday I
brought up that Lashawn McCoy was one of the front
runners for that position. Do you well, how do you
(34:56):
know I'm that second?
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Okay, I just know you're honing in on every other
show at your own.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Well, I have a list of five that could possibly
replace Shannon.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
Let's hear it, Arnie Spanier. Okay, that's not how I thought.
It was a real list.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Well, you know what, why can't they use me for
I told you the one time I was going to
fill in for Maury Polvich, I was gonna get three No,
I'm serious, I'm not kidding a round, no doubt that
they were. I got a call from the producer and
they needed me to fill in for three days. But
they they gave it to somebody else. I'm like, oh,
I have to Nick Cannon, you are the father. No,
they gave it to the producer of the show. But
(35:31):
I'm like, oh, I would have been great at that.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Oh would I think you would be great on this
show replacing Shannon? Honestly, I think that would be perfect
for you.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
I would like to do at least one day I
would't have took have rotating hosts because Lashawan, McCoy joy,
Taylor's name is out there, Emmanuel Accho, Max Kellerman, and
Keishawn Johnson. I think I've read in the New York
Post so interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
I could see all of those. All of those have
had mornings and argument shows and sometimes at the same time.
So I think all of that I get it.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I think you need five hosts because I think Skip
is so good at debate that it's so hard to
take him on that you just have one person do it,
like one day a week or something.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
I think it would honestly, the more I think about it,
it would work with you and Skip as a team
regularly together on the show because you both whack out
your co hosts so regularly. It would be perfect to
have you two be across the table from each other permanently.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Can you imagine Can you imagine Skip says something that
I just break out the aspen or something I go,
wait a minute too, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, bring crops. That makes a better show. Absolutely, prepare
you know something stupid it's gonna be said, so yeah,
just bring it to the studio.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I would love it, all right. The two hours are
in the books, were at halftime and just getting going
on this busy Tuesday night. You want to be part
of the show, real simple, At Stinking Genius One. Bernie
Fraddle gonna join us at twenty past the hour. We'll
give you the latest time what's going on with the
Oakland A's or the Vegas as well, tell you what's
going on there. We'll get more into the golfs situation.
(37:00):
We got an NBA Finals going on that we got
to talk about. All coming up next year on Fox
Sports Radio
Speaker 4 (37:10):
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