Hour 2 - Soldier Field needs a touch up!

Jason and Mike react to the Chicago Bears thinking of moving to a new home if Soldier Field doesn't get a touch up, PAC-12 as we know it is done, and Dan Beyer is not a Hall & Oaks fan boy!

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fun stuff. Dan, how are we feeling? Everything good? Everything

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is great, Mike. You mentioned the vacation earlier arts got
pushed back a couple of weeks, so we are going
to start ours this weekend. So it's a mix of
traveling with a youngster and it's uh dog days of
summer kind of here thinks of Major League Baseball teams
are feeling that. So you get the anxiousness of maybe
getting away a little bit, but also then trying to

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power through July as we get closer to football season.
I'll tell you what it's been interesting, right Obviously, I
I live and die with my Chicago squads, and well
except the Cubs. We we like to watch them. They
just we that's they can struggle. I will be in
attendance Wrigley Field for a couple of events. Once a concert,
so no losers there. Uh is Zach Brown band on

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Saturday night. That'll be at Wrigley and well running around
that neighborhood. And then the Orioles are in town, rising Orioles,
young guys starting to play some good baseball so that
they come in after. I get a little White Sox
Tigers over the weekend and you know, get a little
bit of a homecong town flavor, and I'm lucky to everything. Yeah,

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I'm lucky to get a couple of things, and now
I'll work with Bucky on a out of a studio
to be named in the Greater Chicago land Harry on
Sunday Morning. But you know, meeting up with some folks. Um,
I think I've been asked to be on like four
different podcasts. So you know, as long as folks are
willing to buy me ample amounts of Chicago beer and food,

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I'm in. It sounds sounds like a plant here at
Grigly twice you're at guaranteed rates and h well, I'll
probably go walk down the lakefront so I can go
see the The thing that is Soldier Field as it
stands right now is what you call a professional transition, beautiful,

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beautiful facility. Well look, I remember when they put on
the refurbishment, right, the classic old columns called the colosseum, right,
it looked like an old thing that you you airlifted
from Rome. Uh. And it's still there, but it's underneath
what looks to me, and I've always said, it looks

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like the well aid that you get when you're in
a hospital and you can't walk, like you've heard a leg.
It's like here go to the bathroom in this Uh,
it looks like a toilet bowl and now it's gorgeous inside,
just like everybody that still has the opinion of what
guaranteed rate field is that went there in right originally.

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And this this ties together to what is the story
of the day out of Chicago and that you know,
when that field was built New Comiskey. At the time,
the city played hardball in terms of getting money, which
meant they had approval over the stadium and wanted it
to be a multipurpose venue i e. Cons hurts and

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whatever else you could put into a stadium at that time,
you know, even the circus and things of that nature
that you would ponder. Uh. And over time it was
able to be retrofit and it's now one hell of
a field. But folks remember the early reviews and getting
up into the upper deck to where you felt like
the little guy in the later hose and climbing on

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the prices, right, yeah, you know, and then maybe you
fell over the cliff. But now you've got mayor lightfoot
because the bears are threatening or at least exploring, right,
the exploratory surveys and what the ramifications would be on
every front from an ecological and and economic and everything

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else moved to Arlington Heights. So Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot
proposing that the city make its own renovations to keep
the team in town, set to recommend the possibility of
making so older field a dome. Quote explore the feasibility
that's coming out of Crane's Chicago business and and she's

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floated it before, right, and politicians have for quite a
long time. But they're talking about taxpayers contributions. And this
is Crane's estimates somewhere between four million to one point
five billion dollars. You go through and so far Allegian Stadium,
all of these you know, the heavy price tags and
the new uh you know facilities that have been built.

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Now the Bears can exit their soldier soldier field lease in.
And that's the big thing that triple underscore in any
discussion anybody has about this weather tradition and all of
those things that people have been losing their minds over
the past week with USC and u c l A
heading to the Big ten tradition outdoor football. You know

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some folks saying, well, you know, we when we have
a dome it's just you know, made the better team win, Like, well,
there's something to be said for the home field advantage, etcetera. Look,
my brothers have had season tickets for ever and they've
never moved wide because they're under an overhang, so there's
no elements that get them rain when snow. I've sat
in those seats a number of times. It's the greatest

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near the fifty yard line, and yeah, you're high, but
you get to watch everything without having to be really
truly impacted by the elements. It's the greatest thing in
the world. But the least line is the key to this.
The Bears don't own their facility, which means they are
subjected to whatever the ramifications are of how the field

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is used and rented out by the Chicago Park District
year over year. And you have so many other events
that are played there, high school football games, soccer matches,
international and friendlies, and and sometimes local squads go all
the way through to hey, now Bigfoot has entered the

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arena Sunday Sunday Sunday, all of those things become bre
and not to mention concerts and other events that you
have along the lake front, which means you're playing uh
in a facility where you have no ownership. There's no
expansion possible because of where you are on the lakefront.
So in terms of adding more seats, more amenities, trying

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to rake in any other dollars that you have for
those eight glorious dates, plus the one or two preseason
events that you have, you're limited in terms of the
financial growth that the family business can have. And so
while Lightfoot the possibility is here and great for the city.
Potentially for the Bears, I don't I don't know that

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it makes the sales job because they're trying to expand
their revenue. This doesn't do a damn thing to help that.
So how do you think it plays out in the end?
Is this just the city trying to do it, you know,
a dog and pony show to say, look well, this
is we you know, like we tried, you know, we
we do, we looked into this, this is what it

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would cost. It's not gonna work. Do you think the
city really wants to keep them there? Do you think
that the Bears are intent on leaving there? How do
you think this plays out? And say four years, I
think the Bears look around and they see all the
other facilities that have been built. And while they may
not have the cash reserves to do it themselves and
would need to take on other business partners to do so,

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I think they'd leave in a minute, right attic. You know,
there's there's plenty of public transportation because look out here
in Los Angeles, bit by bit it's being retrofitted. For
those unaware that haven't done a lot of traveling out here.
Maybe you've come out for you know, a Disneyland experience,
Universal Studios, maybe do a big event. Maybe you've seen

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a little of it, but it's it's mainly a driving town,
and you can go back into the history as to
why that is. But bit by bit you see little
connectors starting to pop up where there will be more
public transportation available. It's it's a long ways from being complete,
but at least that opportunities there in the greater Chicago
land area, all of that's already built in. You already

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have the you know, the the different Amtrak and other
lines that will get you to and from the city
center and all these stops along the way, skin Park
and then head out to Arlington Heights. So the opportunities
are there and when you're talking about the cost of
doing business. Right, look what Denver just sold for right

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four and a half billion dollars. You're Chicago adjacent. And
one of the things Lightfoot had been put forward going well,
you go to Arlington Heights, but you can't call yourself
the Chicago Bears, which is just asinine. So we start
getting into the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim fights. I mean,
you know what I mean, we start getting into those fights.
That's the stuff that that ticks me off of, like

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of of a mayor who's on a you know, a
certain term and throughout the years, whatever the case may be,
feeling that they would have the power to strip that
which has been a a brick of fans for you know,
a hundred years, hundred years plus with with football in Chicago.

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But they have that Chicago name. And that's the stuff
like that that politicians do that is that is so annoying. Mike.
I I actually like, I'm looking at it, and I'm
and I'm not a Bears fan, and and you know
the city in the situation a lot more better than
I do. But when I look at just the thought
of the the idea, when you see where the NFL

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is gone, and and obviously the capacity at one point
was a hang up for hosting super Bowls. But with
the NFL only hosting truly one cold weather super Bowl
and them getting very very lucky on the weather like
they did in New York, it's not something that they
obviously want to do every single year, and it's not
something they want to do every ten years, considering they're

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not going back to New York. I haven't gone back
to New York since it happened. But they did go
to Detroit when the Lines got their new stadium, you know,
almost twenty years ago. We obviously know the Vikings getting
their Super Bowl. If the Bears had or if Chicago,
the City of Chicago had a certain facility, there's two
reasons why I think it would be it would be awesome.

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Mike is because it would be that major facility indoor
that could host the Final four, that could hold this.
And that if there was a roof on a facility
where you don't get that in that part of the country. Um,
you know, I mean I mentioned Minneapolis in Detroit, but

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you're either going to one or you're you're maybe going
to the other. If you're in Indiana. You're not going
to Minneapolis for it, you know, or you're you're going
to Indianapolis, or you're going to Detroit for something like that.
If you're in Iowa, you're only can really go to Minneapolis.
But if you had it in Chicago, third biggest city
in the you know, the country, that would be a
place where you could then be like, hey, guess what

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Final Four is coming? You know, like I can foresee
something like that, and I could also see it. As
crazy as it sounds, I don't know how realistic it is,
but to have a real retractable roof where it was
like we're keeping the elements here, but it's because in
April we want to host a Final Four, Like that's
why we're putting a roof over. Like we're not gonna
do it during Bear Games in December, Like that's not

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gonna happen. Roofs gonna be open. Like that is something
that I think is unique to see or would be
unique to see on how it would play out in
a city like Chicago, because all these events go to
the nice weather places where you know, you have these
sort of facilities, whether you're in Arizona or you're you
know now, you know, in our backyard here in l A.
But I'd love to see how something like that would

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work of being a retractable roof. Plus being in the
big city that Chicago is. Yeah, I think the cell job,
as you say, is the city as a whole, right,
because if you're gonna have to go to the you know,
with your hand out to the taxpayers, and and like
Lightfoot has had a lot on her watch, uh good, bad, ugly,
some uh you could say self inflicted when you talk
about the city of Chicago, and then certainly a lot

(12:59):
of other issues, uh COVID related and some of the
things that transpired in the city there. So trying to
push just for another term is going to be a
hard order as opposed to you know, the reign of
the dailies as they were in the city for so
long back as I was growing up and and before

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my time. But the curiosity is if you could find
another site in the city that could work right and
find some compromise to where you can get a little
bit bigger facility. But for the Bears, you know, again,
a lot of it is the they want to be
able to play in the big boy money, which they
can't do now. And that's the enticement of building your
own facility away, whether it's in Chicago or away from it,

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as opposed to being a lesson and then having to
deal with, oh wait, here's all the events that they
put on the schedule. We get no revenue, but we
get the worst of the wear in the locker rooms,
in the facilities, and in the field itself because of it.
It's funny too, because I look at that stadium and

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I haven't been to the to the Redound one. I
was at one, you know, years ago, at the old
Soldier Field UM, and the way to how you describe
the toilet seat fashion of it is true, and I
think that's taken off a lot of the nostalgia of it.
I think that, you know, the design of it was

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so bad that people still hate it after twenty years,
no one's warmed to it. Not only that, your nostalgia
for the old Soldier Field has completely died because there
was nothing there with this new part that could allow
you to keep that alive. So it's easier to move
on because of what they did do it twenty years ago.
Be sure to catch live editions of the Jason Smith

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Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific. What somebody will be writing about three years
from or from now or four years will be how
did the Pack twelve get ahead of us? Ponder that
a moment Mike Carbon alongside Dan Buyer the Jason Smith
Show with Mike Carbon here Fox Sports Radio. Those are
the words of Arizona State President Michael Crow appeared in

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an article with a z Arizona Central Sports a couple
of years ago talking about where the Pack twelve was headed.
And now while we see the possible dissolution, this is
one of those the great effects that you use in
film all the time, Dan, we see it in commercials,
TV shows of all right, dissolve and make the person

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that turn to ash there's Voldemort, Oh no, he's not
there anymore. So many other villains who have vaporized all
the way through. And so with the usc U c
l A News moving to the Big Ten, we've talked
about media rights as related to the Big Ten and
talking about billions of dollars they're in, uh versus the paltry, pathetic,

(16:02):
pitiful contracts signed by Larry Scott for the PAC twelve
network that we're in Los Angeles, Dan, did you ever
watch a game or an event on the PAC twelve network?
Very rarely, very very rarely was I able to even
And if I wanted to see what was happening with
or again or maybe what was happening with Washington on

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the PAC twelve network, I couldn't watch those because I
was not in that market. As crazy as that, it's like,
why would you limit to who can see your product?
It's that is taking the Major League Baseball blackout rules
to a whole other level as we go. But now
we've got this report coming out of the a c

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C and PAC twelve discussing an ESPN TV partnership. In response, Now,
yesterday Jason and I had a lot of fun with,
and I'm sure you and Aaron Torres did as well,
with the announcement that the PAC twelve was going to
look to open up their media rights discussions ahead of
the renewal period, which you laughing like you know, and

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that has been in good time. You know, before last
week might might have been useful, but that you lose
USC let's let's call it what it is. And oor
again in Phil Night, they're they're important Washington. Every year
we overrate them and get excited about them, and then
they let us down me most especially year after year

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they're they're on the come. No, no, they weren't. But
those are the other second place squads to USC. And
now we see the evaluation has been cut in half.
And even then I think they're still being generous and
allowing them to save some face with the estimates that
still said it was a three hundred million dollar type
contract to be had. But now the inevitable alright, team ups, mashups.

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What does it all look like going forward? Dan? And
and really you've got two giant conferences that are you know,
holding open tryouts more or less, and then everybody else
scrambling to get what's left. Yeah, and and now that
the Pack twelve, and I tip my cap to the
PAC twelve because I thought that they were dead in
the water. I still think that the the PAC twelve,

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the PAC ten, however you want to put it, as
we know it is done because it just they are
without USC and U c l A like that is
so so that like that that factor of it is dead,
like that version is is no longer. However, I give
them credit for trying to figure out a way to
stay alive and to try to I don't even know

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if thrive is even a possibility right now for the
PAC twelve, but in trying to, you know, by by
opening up their media rights, I guess, you know, from
from what I've been told. And we spoke with Dennis Dodd,
a CBS Sports, who kind of you know, broke this
news that the Big twelve was in deep discussions to
add Arizona and Arizona State in Colorado and Utah uh

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to their league, the Pact twelve. Doing that, one of
the thoughts was they talk with these rights holders or
with these networks, excuse me and say, hey, who do
you want, like like, who can we bring in that
would make you know, a package appealing for you meaning
school wise. And that was a little bit of the

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you know, the thought process behind it. But I give
them at least an a for effort in trying to
partner up with the a c C. The problem in
in not becoming a part of the a c C,
but in having a strategic television alliance with them where
both leagues can profit. The problem Mike is, is this

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then just another matter of time for to what you
started out the segment of of of talking about of
of what's gonna happen ten years from now, and people
have different views of what's gonna happen five years from now.
If you lock into a TV deal with the A
c C, maybe that saves you for another decade, but
what happens when that ends up uh evaporating to your point,

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then we're kind of back where you started. And honestly,
if that's what you were hanging your head on, maybe
the Big twelve schools or those schools that are left
over have now already left for the Big ten or
the a c C anyway, and they're sort of deals,
so you're kind of left behind. So I give them
credit for trying to form something and trying to stay alive,
because that's what you need to do if you're the

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PAC twelve. But if you're these actual schools, I think
you have to think about the big picture and where
you really want to be, And I don't know if
that's the partnership they want to be in ten years
from now. Well, part of the Dana I think comes
also to the idea of negotiation, and you know, if
you're whatever you're doing out there, whatever job you may

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have across this great country talking to is maybe you're
on contract and clauses about ability to match, clause about
non competes, clauses you know, about the end of terms
as to what what happens in the months thereafter or
leading up to it. Right, fair engagement in conversations. You know,

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it's one thing on the conference level, but clearly the
schools weren't beholden to any of that, right because they're
able to say, all right, well it's done in twenty
four who wants us then, which is generally not how
this this all works. I mean, certainly for TV rights
you're playing by some different rules. But to the point

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being that who's making the the contracts and agreements versus
what power do they have over the membership they're in
And the answer is it doesn't look like to have any.
So hey, we can make a deal with this next
next writs package. But if this school gets a better offer,

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and maybe hey, the big ten continues expanding, the SEC decides, hey,
this marketplace is worth gobbling up as well, or you know,
to be determined on fence three led by Notre Dame
and whoever and just throwing it out and spitballing it right,
here's Notre Dame in Oregon and Clemson, and all right,

(22:09):
we fill it out from there that that it doesn't
become this whole other mess of just jumping one at
a time to where it's in not five years, not
ten years, but just each and every year. It's like
N I L and and with our transfer portal that
everybody's looking to move. If you're Kansas or you're Oklahoma

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State and you're in the Big twelve right now, would
you say, you know what, We're gonna leave the Big twelve.
We're gonna join the Pack twelve, who now has just
formed this new alliance with the a c C. Again,
we're not merging conferences. It's not a super a c
C or a super PAC twelve. The a c C
still will be the a c C and the Pack

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twelve will be the Pack twelve. But we'll figure out
some scheduling stuff. We'll figure out this TV deal so
we can both benefit and and and and formulate that
so we get the money. Is that whole plan appealing
for Texas or Oklahoma State or any of the other
schools in in the in the Big twelve? Right now

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to to jump ship and to try to like leave
in a band of that conference, I don't think it is.
And like if if they they're better off Mike staying
in the Big twelve seeing the Big twelve kin pillage
from the Pack twelve and take some of their schools
and then wait and see if they get a call
from one of the big boys from the Big ten
or the SEC, Like that's the better thing, and that's

(23:34):
the better route, because then if you leave this, leave
that Big twelve conference for this newfound partnership that could
happen between the SEC and the Back twelve either like
all the other schools ten years from now, where you're
gonna be and and where's the Big ten gonna have
expanded or moved on and you're not gonna be able
to because you were left at the altar, you were

(23:55):
left in this other league. That's that's the issue that
that I see. While it's a great plan, I'd just
don't see those other schools jumping ship to make the
PAC twelve stronger, especially from the Big twelve where it
may not be all roses, but it's sure of a
lot more stable than what maybe the PAC twelve was
trying to put to Yeah, I mean just to put
the final final point from my side on this, for

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both the Big Ten and for the SEC as they
build to whatever that maximum number of teams is. Dan,
who's to say that teams that have already been there
don't find their way out the door. I had cherish,
you know, my memories of going across the Big Ten country,
you know, in pursuit of watching my Northwestern squad as

(24:38):
a student and as an alum. Even if we went
to the Horseshoe and got drugged sixty two three like
we did one time, the people were wonderful. We ate
and drank and we were merry, and we we had
a good time. Other events and travel not quite the
same same level. I'll always remember a guy asking me
if I wanted to try out chainsaws as I drove

(24:59):
through Indie. Anna, No, man, we just want to Habachi.
I'm not looking for a giant chainsaw. But you know,
they had an aisle of chainsaws in the store we
went to, which really scared the hell out of me
because I think we were the only people outside of
the store owner for miles, so I think there was
potential for some chaos to be had. Maybe I'll write

(25:19):
a movie about it someday. But the idea being that,
who's to say that Northwestern because you brought in USC
and U c l A. From an academic standpoint, you know,
if we're gonna go to that part of the equation,
which is always one of the things Northwestern's held up
for as part of the Big Ten. But from a
size perspective, small, right, things have to break right to

(25:43):
be competitive at the high level, right, five hundreds, fine,
but you know, to really dominate, and there have been
some great years and I'm not you know, casting dispersion
are going against Randy Walker's legacy into what Pat Fitzgerald's done,
going all the way back to Gary Barnett. But the
reality is, could there be a situation whereby the Big
Ten says, you know what, we'd rather have these guys

(26:05):
in our new grid as opposed to Northwestern. It's like,
I think there's more dominoes to fall. Yeah, and again
I'll be the first guy standing there with a sign
saying don't take me away from the Big Ten because
you will take away my identity and my soul. But
the reality is there, yeah, right now in the fourteen
team League and then soon to be sixteen. There are

(26:25):
schools that are fourteen, thirteen and twelve and eleven. You know,
like we we we talked about usually who's one and
who's two, and you know Ohio State, in Michigan, the
you know, the bigger, bigger brands. But yeah, there's there's
there's an eleven, twelve, thirteen, and fourteen, and now twelve
thirteen and fourteen are fourteen, fifteen and sixteen. And it's

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the same thing in the SEC in dealing with you know,
in Texas and Oklahoma come in. There are schools that
are considered you know, twelve thirteen and fourteen that now
will be fourteen, fifteen and sixteen, and life for them
at the bottom isn't as great because we only talk
about what's happening at the top. Note to self, begin
long blog series about how Indiana, the Gophers and the

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line I have to go. Ah, he's Dan fire and
for Jason Smith on Mike Garment The Jason Smith Show
with Mike Carmen. I kid people, I kid, but do
I really We'll talk about that perhaps more offline and
in podcast for him to come. But you know, there's
a lot of dominoes still to fall across this college landscape,
especially when we start considering some of the other sports

(27:28):
where you have North Carolina and Duke attractive for basketball
but not for football. But when we talk about rights
and trying to be a twelvemonth uh calendar of events
and revenue streams, they get into play as well. Be
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Seeing him in concert twice, I somehow have been pegged
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Maybe that's why. But I really liked them. I like
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It was a great time, so much fun. But I
get like tagged as this, you know, this groupie, and uh,
I don't think I'm that far. I was really just
kind of saying, hey, let's let's have a night out,
and that I just didn't the record straight. Yeah I'm

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not saying I mean live from Darryll's house and there's
Dan Buyer in the window. I mean we have so yeah,
it's a fantastic, Yeah, depending on who's out there, who
goes for the visit, and then I love the meal
chat that they have afterwards. See it's a it's a
beautiful thing. Uh. And welcome in, Mike Harmon, Dan Buyer

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with you here the Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon
on Fox Sports Radio. Thanks for being part of the
extended family. As we're into the fun time of summer,
which means people might be spending a little time. I've
got my three d fifty two pages of Goodness, Dan,
my Phil Steel book that I acquired at a Barnes
and Noble the other day, my daughters and I picking

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up some summer reading. I had a couple of things
on my list, and and there it was, fresh out
of the box, sitting on the desk. It hadn't even
been put in its proper place on the shelf. And
I said, are they scanned and ready to go? She
looked at me, said we'll make it. So scan the
box up the inventory, and boom. Harmon's got his three

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out of fifty two pages of Goodness that will accompany
him on the plane plane. In the middle of trying
to start creating fantasy content, Dan as you and I
are want to do UH wide receiver position Tyreek Hill
doing a lot of chirp in about how great the
connection is going to be with two a tongue of
violoa to the point saying at two am, I'll be

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the guy cleaning the dishes dishes in your kitchen, which
I think is cool. Also compared their relationship to what
it was like for Carmen Electra and Dennis Rodman. Still
not sure what if he'd found out how that ended,
but that's fine. A lot of fire, a lot of
excitement in here. But you know, when we look at
the top five wide receivers, I'm hard pressed to go

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away from Cooper Cup. With the arrival of Alan Robinson
and another year of this offense together, I've seen some
chirp in about whether Justin Jefferson belongs or not. I'm
kind of down on Davante Adams and then Mike Evans
doesn't necessarily have Godwin back for a while, so a
little chaos up at the top. Yeah. I I think

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that the the addition of Alan Robinson for the for
the Rams to cut numbers is actually one of the
most minor things to happen, considering a Tyreek Hills, New Um,
you know new fortunes in uh in Miami, and the
same thing with Davante Adams with the Raiders. There's a
lot of change, Deebo Samuel, I mean, if Trey Lance
is going to be the quarterback, how does that change things?

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Is he still gonna be a number one running back
for half a year? Yeah, like that's where a lot
of his value came right, Yes, but he was still
like second in receiving yards when he ended up having
to take over that running crazy, So yeah, I agree
with you. I like cup at the top. I put
I had I had Jefferson second, I have Ceedee Lamb third,
actually the number one guy in Dallas, and then uh,

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then I had Deebo and Davante Adams strength he's sixth
and and Stefon Diggs would be seventh. Because Tee Higgins
starts floating in there for me, and because I'm always
fearful that Frostberg is just around the corner, or maybe
Steve de Sager. I have to have Keenan Allen up
in there. Otherwise, stats for day days, and I fear

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getting galu leed by one of them. Better. How Mike
Williams in there too. No no, no no, no, no, he's
I need him to play another full season before I'm
trusting him to that level. But he is top twenty,
no question about it. Maybe back in number one when
it's all said and down well, as we celebrate the
the love of Justin Herbert, no question about it. Hey.

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