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January 10, 2025 41 mins

To open Hour 3, Jason and Mike are joined by CollegeFootballNews.com owner and proprietor Pete Fiutak to react following a wild College Football Playoff game between Notre Dame and Penn State, and preview Friday night's matchup between Ohio State and Texas. Later, the guys get into Georgia QB Carson Beck's decision to enter the transfer portal rather than enter the NFL draft as he'd originally announced. Plus, Las Vegas insider Todd Fuhrman joins the show to share some of his favorite bets heading into a wild few days of football!

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Tire buying should be. Well, we are set. There now
three teams left in the college football Playoff. The winner
of Ohio State and Texas tomorrow gets Note Tre Dame,
who pulls off the twenty than twenty four win over
Penn State. Mitch Jeter field goal.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Mitchie met Derek, Derek me mitchih.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
To win the game and send Notre Dame onto the
national Championship, joining us now in the hot line to
break it all down. Nobody better than the owner, editor,
proprietor of College Footballnews dot com, your one stop shopping
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(01:29):
everything you could possibly want. Pete Feutac has he's with
us now, Pete, right out of the gate, I want
to say this. Let's talk about snubs. Was Northern Illinois
snub for the playoff? Were they snubbed?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yes? Or no? Were they snubbed? Hey?

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Guys, what's happening there? I can't hear you.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh, I have my great line as it was Northern
Illinois snub for the playoff?

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:55):
By the way, how many what's the age cut off
on people who know who Derek Jeter is?

Speaker 1 (02:01):
He does commercials? Now he doesn't one with the with
the insurance.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
What's the age cut off on anybody who's actually seen
a commercial?

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh? Wow, Well, if you're watching then watch here you're on.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
If you're watching live sports, you are watching commercials.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, except the kids, you know, they'll pause it and
then fast forward it. So yeah, it was great, great game.
I mean, like, look the National Championships kind of tomorrow night.
I mean, because Notre Dame it's a plucky team, God
love them, you know, but if Ohio State, you know,

(02:37):
shows up and wants to really try and play like
they play, they can't. I mean, this is the third
best team in the Big Ten and that's about as
good as Penn State could look until they didn't. And
then for some reason, it just, you know, things just
sort of you know, turned off. Notre Dame woke up
and turned it on, and wow, it's pretty pretty amazing

(02:59):
second half of football and crazy ending and somehow Notre
Dame just finds a way to get it done. It's
insane how this team was getting buried. You know, they
should have been rocked by the Georgia lines, and then
tonight they're getting killed by a duel carter and the
Penn State lines. And then all of a sudden they're
kicking a field goal, but win a game.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I don't know quite.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
How we lose. Pete, Pete got taken out.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Got take Maybe maybe there's a Penn State fan in
Pete's house.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
You live in Big ten country, you have anywhere, Dame.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, they're not Big Ten. We keep basking them. They
keep saying, no, you can't say they're Penn State.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
Is there. You can't say that we'll get Pete back.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
But look, hey, you know, being Pizza on my side
with this, I think that the de facto National Championship
game is tomorrow night because Texas beats Notre Dame too.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
They're both these teams are too loaded.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Of the two teams, Look, Ohio State's better, they have
the better roster, they're playing better football. But still Texas
is still incredibly talented and they'll be able to put
points on the board. Look Penn State, and Penn State
has no offense and they put twenty four on tonight
against Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
So I don't know what Texas would do.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
And my goodness, if Penn State ran for one hundred
and eighty yards tonight on Notre Dame, can you imagine
Ohio State would have two hundred yard rushers in the game.
It would be absolutely insane. Pete, I was just saying
that I was with you. I think the de facto
National title game is great for Notre Dame. But the
winner of Ohio State Texas is going to win the title.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
Yeah, it's probably and let's see, I mean it's hopefully
Norre Dame makes it tough, but at some point, all
these injuries have to have to be a prominent It
looked like tonight was the night where it's like, okay,
they just lost two more offensive linemen off a line
they couldn't afford to lose any more players off of.
Then you know, still they've found a way to get
it done. But you're right. I mean, it's gonna have

(04:54):
to take something big. And for this Notre Dame team,
it's all about the turnover and takeaways. And you know,
after Riley Leonards threw that second pick, because the only
other game this year he threw two picks with Northern Illinois,
I was like, okay, well that's it. They're not winning
the turnover battle. Then drew Aller even when did him
a solid and there we go.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Yeah, it was a terrible uh, terrible read there by
Riley Leonard, but zero completions to wide receivers from the
Benn State side of things.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
And James Franklin, after being pretty boisterous and trying to
be uh, you know, clown. Everybody yesterday in press conferences
can't wait to see his post Pete.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
He was actually really good. Actually give them credit. I mean,
this is the toughest game, as tough of boss as
you can have. After something like that, they were right there.
Drew Aller got up there and he answered every question
he was I mean, for a college kid, it was
pretty impressive. And yeah, but Franklin is stinct. I mean,
I think he's won like one in eighteen. Now he
gets top five teams, which is always kind of a bad,

(05:55):
bad look, especially when all those games were against you know, Michigan,
Ohio State or some of it's really huge. But they
had him, they had him and his quarterback to a bad,
bad pick, and just I'm not quite sure what else
they could have done because they kept going to Tyler Warren.
How do you say no to that? And the running
game was working, the offensive line was killing the Irish,

(06:18):
so how do you step away from what seemed to
be working? And then all of a sudden, you know,
Notre Dame did what they hadn't done all year, which
they had to come from behind. They were down and
needed a touchdown drive with four minutes to go, and
they scored ten points in the final four minutes. That's
that's not really what Penn State or Nor Dame was
doing all year.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
You know, Pete.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I want to go back because Notre Dame was they
were flatlining in this game. And then in a weird way,
you know, Riley Leonard gets dinged up and he goes
to the medical tent and all of a sudden, Steve
Angeli comes in and he's thrown right in the game,
which is the right time to have a backup committing No, no,
don't have to worry, don't don't worry about throwing warming
up nothing, go right in and he gets them down

(07:00):
for a field goal, go six out of seven, has
the big fourteen yard completion, and I felt like life
was was pumped back into Notre Dame at that point
where if they go into halftime down ten nothing and
nothing is working. I don't know what happens in the
second half, but I felt like that moment when Angeli
comes in and suddenly it's a ten to three game
like that gave them life where they had none up
until that point.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
They caught a huge break because that duel Carter couldn't
reach in with his arm right that, you know, as
good as he was tod he was playing with one
arm because that other one didn't work. And when he
dove for it. He couldn't get the fumble that was
right there and got shoved out and didn't want to
injure it further or whatever I mean it would like you,
you know, shied away from it, but he just couldn't

(07:41):
physically do it. And nore Dame recovers the fumble on
the stack and this place sas eleven and you're right,
give him crap because at that point you're right there,
nothing was happening, and so just turn to lose. Just
go out there, kidd, and just certa and rip it
and grip it and rip it and start throwing. And
all of a sudden, after getting dominated totally in the
first half three and like you said, you think that

(08:03):
deal like he just got destroyed. It seemed like door
Dame pen stated, at the ball for twenty nine minutes
and you're only down seven. You'll then you get the
ball coming out in the second half and a great
deal for the Irish.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, that was the crazy thing.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
Looking at the time of possession, yardage, all of that
stuff at the end of the half, it's.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
Like, wait, the time of possession is that close?

Speaker 5 (08:21):
And obviously Penn State had had their will on the
offensive line, being able to run the ball as effectively
as they did, so when it came out at halftime,
we were on airpeat and looking at it and going
all right, do you dance with who brung you?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Or do you go with the hot hand given that
you had.

Speaker 5 (08:36):
That big offensive explosion to get that field goal, and
instead Leonard comes back out and they're able to run
it straight down with Carter missing a number of plays
on that earlier field goal drive and clearly impaired as
the second half began.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
Yeah, and there's someone who has been concussed several times
and including at the Orange Bowl by the way, waits Yeah,
I got hit in the head with an orange frown
by the Seawan Watson after the game that was that
was cool.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
But you could have made money on that man. You
could have made a lot of cash on that.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I don't blame him. I blamed the guy who was
in front of me who whiffed and the orange went
right to his hand and I saw him right in
the middle of the head. AnyWho, uh Ry Leonard gets up,
he's he was walking to the opposite sideline and it's like,
this is a college kid here, and Ta Padia put
him out there. Again and apparently, you know, all was

(09:32):
right with the world. And it's the timing actually turned
out to be perfect because there was still about two
thirty left in the first half when Jelly and Jelly
comes in and was able to go and then gave
that gave Leonard about a half hour of real time
to kind of, you know, clear whatever it was up
and for him to get right and then all of

(09:53):
a sudden you'd be able to pass the test and
get back out there. And he had a great game.
And it's what's interesting w watch some of the postgame
commentary and stuff. People didn't really watch him this year.
I'm still convinced that I'm not joking that not a
lot of people watch Notre Dame, but especially because after
the Dollinois game, there weren't a lot of big games
to play. This Florida State stunk and the scheduled and

(10:16):
that great, and they were on peacock alf the time.
But Ryley Lender could throw and he was a pretty
accurate passer. He didn't do anything crazy this year, but
he's a better passer than he got credit for this year,
and he certainly showed up in this and croved. He's
not just the runner.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
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Speaker 3 (10:37):
All Right, Pete, where do you come down?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
It looked like it was going to be a really
big play that was going in Penn State's favor. The
interception that gets overruled in the end zone because of
pass interference. The defender had his hands up in Warren's face,
but the ball was really underthrown and it was picked off.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
When when I saw that, I said, I get letter
of the law that that's a pass interference because of
defensive back doesn't turn around and you got.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
To keep his hands up.

Speaker 1 (11:03):
But when a ball is underthrown like that, like I
think you have to reassess how you throw a flag
in that situation when the ball's three yards behind the receiver.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I don't know that you can throw a flag there
at that point.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, I have to fully admit I am not a
thousand percent sure. I guess I know I don't. In
the pros, you can't do that, but in college you can,
like stand in front of the guy if you're not
touching him. You know who cares and the whole turn
your head thing I think is just an NFL thing acting.
I could be very wrong in this, but he didn't
touch him. I mean like he kind of hit the

(11:35):
arm a little bit, but he didn't impede Tyler Warren's
ability to get to the play because zager Watch was
in front of him making the catch. So it was
a huge break for Penn State and they capitalized off that.
And again, you know, throughout this game, it's like, Okay,
what did Notre Dame do All year? They were the
number one team in the country and points of turnovers,

(11:56):
and all of a sudden State had ten points off
the turnovers Nor Dame naveti and it just seemed like, okay,
this is you know, Nor Dame fighting and battling, but
Penn State is going to pull this thing out. And again,
all of a sudden, it just this team just sort
of did it. So now it'll be interesting to see
whether it's Ohio State or Texas the c if Nordame
can really handle all the speed and all the talent, uh,

(12:19):
assuming that quin e weers And is healthy or assuming
that everyone's right. For Ohio State to see if they
can do this against the team of that caliber. But look,
if they beat Indiana, they beat Georgia, now they beat
Penn State. That's not a bad run. There's there's another
cheap about this run to get to the national championship.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Nice little run from Marcus Fremian and company. All right,
Ohio State favored by six tomorrow, Pete, how do you
see this one playing out?

Speaker 4 (12:44):
If they show up like they did the first two games,
forget it. I mean, Tennessee is good, you know, and
Oregon was the undefeated number one team, and that those
both of are like scrimmages for the squad. And that's
this is the game. This is the Ohio State team
with the to do all season. This is the team
that had more money than everyone else. They can afford

(13:05):
Chip Kelly as its offensive coordinator, and they just have
more talent. They just the offensive line that was supposed
to be as such a concern that got manhandled by
Michigan all of a sudden. It's been great over the
last two games. As long as they come out aggressive
and just keep playing like they know that they're the
best team in the country, they'll be fine. Texas are

(13:25):
gonna have it. It's gonna it'll get it. Shots in
Quinny Ors will complete sixty five percent of his passes.
They're gonna march up and down the field. They've got
the speed, they've got the offensive line to hold up.
I just don't think they're gonna do it for a
full four quarter. So if you're if you like Ohio
State to win, I speak, the six is pretty good.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
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Speaker 3 (13:55):
It is there.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Pete is always thanks and we'll talk to you tomorrow
night after Ohio State.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Texas absolutely, then two more weeks of college football.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
After that, let's.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Go, let's finish it strong. Enjoyed the night, Pete. We're
talking tomorrow, two more weeks.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
You know it's funny my wife said to me today
we're watching the Notre Dame Penn State game, and uh,
you know, before before the show, and you know, she's
not rooting for either team. I said, hey, look, one
of them's gonna lose, you know that's all. Look, one
of them is gonna lose. It's gonna be heartbreak for one.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
And she goes and she just says, yeah, it's just
I can't get over this. It's it's the middle of January.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
We're still watching college football and we still have another
week and a half to go.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
And I said, yeah, isn't it great?

Speaker 1 (14:36):
And she goes, Ah, I'm like, okay, are we really
have college football extended playoff fatigue at one week into
the new year?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Fatigued? The season's too long and too much stuff going on. Ah,
it's too long, wait, too long, Michigan, we're still playing.

Speaker 5 (14:51):
No, she'd be just fine, Uh yeah, you know, but
I know folks are saying that's like, hey, we're already
at you know, January ninth, and it's gonna be January tenth.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
We're still playing college football. It's like, yeah, it's great.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Yeah, say there every last one of them. You don't
have to love every last one of them. It's like
that Week eighteen in the National Football League season. You
may not have liked it, you may have hated your
team throughout your season. Yeah, but then you're gonna miss it.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
I think honestly, you could probably start the playoff a
week earlier. I think you'd probably start the playoff a
week earlier and then still take that long break, right,
still take that break over because look, you don't want
to play a game right before Christmas, right after Christmas,
then come back on New Year's Day and you know,
and but then you're only having New Year's Day and

(15:39):
it's one more week, right, Like, if you have the
two semi final games on New Year's Day and then
the National title is the next week, I think you
can do that. So I mean, which we and now
we'd finished right around now, which is great, okay, great,
you know we've pushed past January first. Then it was
for a long time it was the Bowl games on
January first, and that was it. Right then it was okay,

(15:59):
bowl games and then the National title game on January second.
Then they got pushed to January fourth, January fifth. We're
moving around to money. Now we're gonna be in the
middle of January. We're gonna be the they're gonna play
the eventually they're gonna play the championship game the.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Day before the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
But I think if you started just a week earlier,
which you probably could because school is still somewhat in session,
if you want to start a week earlier in December,
you know, take the next week off. You don't want
to play the second week of December, but you know,
we'll give them that week off to go and then
start playing the next week. Then you could finish about
a week earlier. But again, maybe that's a change for
next year. Maybe it's something they see, they see the

(16:34):
TV ratings, they want to do something differently, or they
want to keep it the same. But like you know,
like we've talked about through this entire playoff run, there's
a lot of things that'll be tweaked a little bit
differently next year, which is to be expected because here's
the first year of a twelve team playoff. We want
to see how things play out before we wind up
change it.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
And they're also gonna say, boy, how do we get
Ohio State, Texas, Notre Damn.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
We gotta get Michigan in next year. We gotta get
any and we gotta get all these teams. We gotta
get Bellichicken North Carolina next year.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
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Speaker 1 (19:21):
Twenty seven, twenty four is your final. Notre Dame moves
on to the national Championship. They will take on the
winner of Ohio State and Texas tomorrow. Thanks to Pete
fu Tech for stopping bio this a few minutes ago.
And look, I gotta tell you, MiG like it is
not to rain on Notre Dame's parade. But obviously now
we talk. Okay, how do they match up against They
match up against Texas a little bit better, right, They

(19:42):
don't match up well against Ohio State at all. Again,
you heard Pete say it. They're the third Penn State
was the third best team in the Big Ten, and
here is Ohio and here is Notre Dame, barely getting by.
Ohio State has one hundred million dollars roster, and they
needed to play games and get past the Michigan lost
and they did. They're a great front running team, which
is the big thing about Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
They got to get out to a lead tomorrow against Texas.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
But even Texas is more talented and they can put
more points on the board. Like no, I think like this.
This is the the nadeer for Notre Dame and for
Penn State. This was the winner of this game. This
is as far as they're going to get because the
other side of the bracket is just too difficult. I
guess we look at it like we're looking at college basketball. Hey,
you had a couple of teams win. This side of
the bracket is more difficult. But Ohio State and Texas,

(20:28):
you're talking about the two teams that were, you know,
right behind Oregon being the best team in the country.
You know, Texas was number one for a while and
then Oregon was number one, and Ohio State was never
outside the top three until the lost to Michigan. So
I mean, you're looking at two teams that are just
infinitely more talented. And why I love the fact that
Notre Dame plays over their heads. You know, defensively they

(20:49):
play over their heads. Offensively play over their heads. Marcus
Freeman's a phenomenal head coach. What seven wins now against
top twenty five teams this year, It's going to be
a different kind of animal when they take on either
Ohio State or Texas. They've a better shot against Texas
because I've seen quinn Ewers have bad games. I've seen
quin you Weers throw the football the other team. I
can see where Texas. It may be struggling a little bit.

(21:12):
You saw them barely escape a week ago in a
game they probably should have won by two touchdowns, So
maybe things are a little bit more difficult for them.
They could be nearing the end. I mean, I expect
Ohio State to win tomorrow night, but I think either
team is going to come in as an overwhelming favorite
over Notre Dame, and either of these teams are gonna
wind up winning the game over the Irish by a lot.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
Yeah, we'll find out from our guy Todd Furman coming
up in about fifteen minutes from now as he joins
US Live from Vegas. So many questions to ask him
college football, the playoff weekend ahead, but certainly yeah, overmanned
and a lot of injuries that we need to see
how much gets rectified. Right, You had one of your
linemen leave for Notre Dame early in this one. You

(21:52):
saw the pressure on the interior that was there against
Riley Leonard a Ton affected how you can run the
ball effectively as well, not that you didn't get the
hard runs from Love as the game wore on, and
certainly at the goal line. But you know, I'll be
curious to see what Marcus Freeman can put together over
the next ten days. And we've seen both Ohio State

(22:14):
and Texas at times play far below the expectations, and
they are lofty, There's no question about it. Throughout the year,
these are the two teams if you go back to
all the preview magazines, a lot of what we talked
about here, you and I and certainly across Fox Sports Radio,
whether it's Joel Klatt or Brady Quinn and LeVar Arrington.

(22:35):
Our guys can't wait to hear that one in the
morning as they come out of this game. But all
of that to say, yeah, Texas and Ohio State great
expectations and great opportunities and certainly the coaching staffs and
money spent all of that. But for one game, you
need sixty minutes of good football. And I can't put

(22:57):
it past Marcus Freeman to not be able to come
up with a player or two. Uh, you know, to
to keep ay, keep it close, but then have the
ability to make a player too late. Not that I'm
expecting Jeter to do it again. You chronicled his six
for twelve during the regular season. Right now he's on
an epic heater.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Uh. Seven of eight in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
But I want him to kick for the Jets. Now
we had five kickers in the way, why not one more.
Let's go with one more. He had the magic of Jeter.
Uh coming back to New York, New Jersey. Think about
all the Jersey sales immediately signing him as a more.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Jersey sold Jeter.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
If he played for one of the New York teams
or Scataboo wherever he winds up, Scataboo really well, because
you could get it, especially if he war number two,
like if he sure number two with the Giants, And
there's probably a bunch of people that already have those
sitting around from back in the dance try.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
It out again.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
The hope lives. But hey, where's it? Where's that? Where's
that k Where? Where's that trunk I had with all
the jerseys I don't wear no more? Where is that?
Where can I go get that? Is that upstairs on
the attic?

Speaker 6 (24:06):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Is it out in the garage in the back? Where
where's it? You know what I'm talking about? It is
that one big trunk that had the stuff that I
don't wear no more on it? That's what it said
on it. Where is it so I could go get
that Geeta jersey out.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
But Scataboo, I mean, think about how many people are
just gonna buy one just for the giggles of Scataboo.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
No, sure, yeah, to your point, I'd buy one for
Cheeter just for get exactly.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Look, opportunism, opportunity knocks opportunism.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Is that a word, opportunity? I think I just made
a made up a new word. And that's fine.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
But their opportunistic and we we talked about it Notre
Dame in thirty two Takeaways. Over the course of the season,
Howard and Ewers, they get a little cute with the
football at time.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
They will try to force it.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Butch like we saw Drew Aller tonight, right, you're going
one way, your body going the other way. Out my
arms strong enough and he and he owned it, and
the boast guys just saying, look, I should have dirted
it and he should have right, he should have thrown
it at his feet trajectory, so you don't get the
intentional grounding call. But first read gone, second read gone.
Tried to force it across the middle and instead you

(25:09):
had a good break on the ball by Gray and
he gets the interception. But we've seen that, and we've
certainly seen it from Will Howard and we've seen it
from yours where they will try to force the issue.
And that's where Notre Dame's defense throughout the course of
the season looks. Seven ranked opponents, they don't all have
to be the household names and the world beaters. And certainly,

(25:29):
you know the meme is now going up that you've
seen Marcus Freeman beat more top five teams in the
last eight days than James Franklin has in his career.
Oh and by the way, the other guy catching strays
an awful lot of Brian Kelly memes finding time, so.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Equal opportunity here.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
All of that to say Notre Dame, I don't know
eight days from now, ten days from now, and we're
making that would be eight days from now, because we'll
make that pick on a Friday. Yeah, I may be
inclined to to go that way. I'll certainly take the points,
but might be able to talk myself into picking the Irish.
Out Right, we got to see how Tomorrow night plays,
and fortunately for America in the world, you and I

(26:10):
will be on air to break it all down.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Now elsewhere in college football. Huge story today. Carson Beck
is in the transfer portal. Right, the Georgia quarterback who
got hurt, missed the playoff, initially declared for the NFL draft.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Now instead is hitting the transfer portal.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
And I get it from the business aspect from him,
and I get it from the playing aspect. He wasn't
good enough to go to the NFL not off this
There's a lot of quarterbacks headed to the NFL going, Wow,
do you really want to go there?

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Coming off this game? Right? Do you really want to
do that? Does Jalen Milroe really want to go to
the NFL?

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Coming off that absolute awful game against Michigan, Carson Beck realized.
He also realized that I'm not going to get drafted
really high.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
But if I go.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Someplace else, someone's gonna give me six or seven million
dollars in NIL money to come play there next year.
I'm going to make way more money he as a
senior in college, than I am gonna make if I
declare for the NFL draft. So I can wait a
year while pushing my stock up a bit, because he
does need to bring his stock up. Quarterbacks are now
It's gonna be different, not every quarterbacks is gonna declare
for the draft because they're gonna say, hey, I can

(27:15):
make more money back here. I can make three million
dollars my senior year. I'm not gonna make that because
I'm gonna go in the fourth round. You know, that's
what they're projecting me as so I can do it.
So it's a great business decision for Carson Beck. It's
also the right decision on the field because I was
I was really surprised.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
When he said he was going to the NFL.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I was like, in not a great year for quarterbacks,
I get the whole. Hey I can get there because
it's not a great year. But if you're not great,
you're just one of those guys, right well you have
suddenly jump ahead and everybody you become one of those guys.
So yeah, whether he goes someplace else, whether it's a
great you know, when he goes to usc whether he
heads to somewhere, he's somewhere who needs a quarterback for

(27:52):
one year in a high profile situation. Yeah, I get
Carson Beck leaving and I see all the Georgia fans mad, No, like,
do you think this really happened? If he knew he
was coming back as a starting quarterback next year, Like
just like the case of Milroe going to the NFL,
there may be a tiny bit of hey, if I
come back, am I really guaranteed to be the starter?

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Or a they gonna look to replace me? Because I
really didn't have that great a year.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Like I like my the body of my work is terrific,
but boy, this year wasn't great. We didn't win a lot,
and I know the coach has to win more than
eight games. So if he sees has a hot shot
freshman coming in, am I really gonna play?

Speaker 3 (28:28):
I jumped to the NFL. Same thing for Carson Beck.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I mean, I'm sure he would have got if he
was really that sought after, Georgia would have kept him,
would have given.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Him more NIL money. It would have happened.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I don't think this happens without a conversation being hey,
maybe it's mutual, where if you're thinking of hitting the
transfer portal, Georgia saying it's okay if you go, because
we really need to do something a little bit different
at quarterback.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, I think there's a lot too it.

Speaker 5 (28:49):
We could even talk about Drew Aller coming out of tonight,
right all the intent come back to Penn State after
a couple of the decisions, and look, he wore it
like a champ in the postgame pressers, but NFL teams
were reportedly looking at it for big performances. Well, that
went off to the wayside. Now coming back to Penn State,

(29:09):
did you see that he's the guy to take.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
You to that? I don't know, but certainly for Carson Beck,
there were halves.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Of football where he was everything he was supposed to be,
right as a top three pick, top arm, all of
those things, and there were halves of football that you're
looking around going that guy's the number one, right that's
still back out there. It's not someone else in his jersey.
And we saw that with Nil, with the ability to
go into the portal and transfer through look to get

(29:36):
all the evaluations and response from scouts that he no
doubtedly got saying, hey, opportunities are here, but it's going
to have to really break right for some team to
trade up and come get you earlier in the draft.
Otherwise it's a developmental thing. And we'd watched guy. How
many guys get buried through the years on depth charts

(29:57):
and never get that chance. I don't know if they
could have been good pros. They get dismissed as if
they weren't because they never cracked through. But guys get
languish on a roster for two or three years. Guess
what we want the next cycle of guys, the next
it thing, and they never see the light of day.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
History's littered with him.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
So for Carson Beck, yeah, take advantage of the opportunity
to go to another school. And certainly Georgia, I'm sure
it already looked at him and said you can come
back and compete, which is code for you ain't gonna
be the first chair where we put the magnets up
on the board, Billy Bob Thornton style.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
So get to looking great decision.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
And now, if you have six million dollars, you can
have a pretty good starting quarterback in college football.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
For six million dollars. Monte Bologos will do updates for
you every single night. I'll even do it only about
the Clippers. Yes, I'll even do it for less than
six million, five million, Okay, I don't want to sell
you short. No, yeah, I appreciate that. I'm Scott Boris,
You're Monti Bolognas. I'll get you six million.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Had a giant notebook of all your stats, Monsei to
really get you that six million.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Jason, you're hired.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
You're hired, Like, that's easy. You'll be my agent. I
love it.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Don't tell me accuracy status. Eighty four percent of the
time she gets the right scores.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
That's right. Eighty four percent, that's right. And if I
got it wrong, it's because the Internet was wrong, not me.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Thank you Cash.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
Notre Dame fellas as you've been talking. Is headed to
the National Championship for the first time since twenty thirteen,
defeating Penn State twenty seven to twenty four thanks to
a forty one yard field goal from Mitch Jeter.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Who are they gonna play?

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Will?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
We'll know In about twenty four hours.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
Ohio State takes on Texas in the other college football playoffs.
Semi final game is on Friday, with kickoff around seven
thirty Eastern. The championship game will be on Monday, January twentieth.
In the NFL, the league announced that because of the
fires in LA, Monday's wild card game between the Vikings
and the Rams is gonna be moved from Sofi Stadium

(31:51):
to State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona the Raiders for
general manager Tom to LESCo today after just one season.
Former Jets head coach Robert Sala interviewed with the forty
nine ers for their defensive coordinator position, yeah, the position
he held before he took the Jets job. Chiefs defensive
coordinator Steve Spagnolo is scheduled to do his virtual head
coach interviews with the Jets, Raiders, and Jaguars on Friday.

(32:15):
In the NBA, the Cavaliers won twelve in a row.
They topped the Raptors won thirty two to one twenty six.
The Warriors had a one oh seven to one oh
four win over the Pistons. The Timberwolves Cruise passed the
Magic one oh four to eighty nine, but Orlando will
have Paolo ben Carro back for Friday's game against the
Milwaukee Bucks. The Mavericks defeated the Trailblazers one seventeen to
one eleven, and the Rockets beat the Grizzlies one nineteen

(32:38):
to one fifteen. The Sun's top the I wrote, the
Sun's top the Suns. That's not right.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
The Sun's top four percent?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Right?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I tell you what I did.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Number nine.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
You can get in and in a single update that
really could take the average down like a pop blaze.

Speaker 7 (32:53):
It was the hots On twenty three to one fifteen,
and then heat took down the Jazz ninety Evanton ninety two,
the Hornets and the Lakers game was postponed due to
the fires in LA.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
There were three ranked top twenty five teams in college
hoops playing today and they all want so. Number fifteen
Oregon one, number twenty per Due, number sixteen Michigan State,
And in the NHL the final game of the Knight Islanders.
They just shut out the Golden Knights four zero, while
the Stars have won six in a row after defeating
the Flyers four to one.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Okay, back to you guys, thanks a bunch.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yes, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmen livemthetyrec dot
Com Studios coming up next, we head to Vegas. What
does note tre Dames win do for their National championship?
Odds to the oxtred Ohio State go down even further
because they're more of a favorite. Plus, we get an
early look at all the big NFL games this weekend
from NFL insider and former odds maker at Caesar's Todd

(33:52):
Furman are insider in Vegas as next This is Fox.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Ason Smith's
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific Fox.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon lifethetirack dot com Studios. Notre Dame wins there
in the National Championship. Joining us now on the hot
line for more on this developing story. Longtime friend of
the show Vegas insider Todd Furman. He is on Twitter

(34:25):
at Todd Furman, former odds maker. Check him out of
the Bet the Port podcast. See him on CBS as well. Todd,
what's happening, buddy?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
How are you?

Speaker 8 (34:33):
I'm doing well, gentlemen, Still trying to process everything. We
saw a transpire in the Orange Bowl, a true back
and forth game and some questionable coaching decisions late in
that contest that opened the door for Notre Dame. And
credit to the Irish. They found a way to grid
out a lot of these victories and now one step
away from winning a first national title in more than
thirty years.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
So I like your tweet following the game where you
said I hope someone asked James Franklin tonight if he
thinks Notre Dame only beat them because the Irish didn't
have to play in a conference championship game.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I gotta like that. I think that might be the
question of the off season for James Franklin.

Speaker 8 (35:07):
I mean, it's wild. This is a guy who, quite frankly,
hasn't accomplished anything as head coach at Penn State when
it comes to stepping up in class trying to beat
the elite program. And it's not to diminish what Penn
State's done in terms of winning and losing football games,
but Penn State doesn't measure the success of their football
season by going ten to two. If you're consistent losing
to the Ohio States and the Michigans of the world,
and whatever other configuration we now have in the Big

(35:29):
ten somewhere, you have to be able to get your
team across the finish line. And all those things lined
up for Penn State tonight. Franklin was out coached late
in that contest, and for whatever reason, they went away
from some of the things that were working. And I'm
sure it'll be yet another excuse and a reason why
Penn State came up just short. But we'll see exactly
what James Franklin does to try and spin this, and

(35:49):
more importantly, how confident the Nitney Lyons are going into
next season that Drew Haler can finally take them across
the finish line given what we saw for four quarters
tonight against that Irish defense.

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Yeah, we're just talking about what's going on with Carson.
Beck wondered if Drew Aller doesn't have the same kind
of path ahead of him. But todd As we look
ahead and we'll get to the tomorrow's game in a second.
But you know how big a line are we looking
at for Notre Dame against either of these opponents for
next week?

Speaker 8 (36:16):
It depends on how the two teams look tomorrow. If
Ohio State were to go out there and boat race
Texas like they've done to each of their first two
playoff opponents, you could be looking at a number that
would be approaching ten.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
For me.

Speaker 8 (36:26):
Right now, I kind of set the number sight on
seeing for the buck Eyes about an eight eight and
a half point favorite against Notre Dame and against Texas
much closer to a field goal. Now that dynamic can
change a little bit, and I think it would come
a little bit higher if the perception around Texas changes,
with them upsetting what most people believe right now are
the unbeatable buck guys. So I think that number would

(36:47):
be open in that three three and a half range.
And if you're an Irish fan, I have to imagine
you'd probably rather prefer to see the burnt orange on
the opposing sidelines in Atlanta week from Monday than you
would the scarlet and gray of Ohio State. But either way,
we're poised to have an iconic final with some of
the pre eminent programs in the sport buying for the
first ever championship in the expanded playoffs.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
So that with that being said, tomorrow night, Todd, how
do you see tomorrow between Texas and Ohio State.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
I think it's a fair reflection where the two teams
are right now, and it's the age old question of
if you want to place added emphasis on Ohio State
in their current form, the reason why they've been met
up from a four point favorite where that number opened
out to minus six, or you think this is the
perfect opportunity to buy Texas at the bottom of the market,
given the way that they've struggled a'lbeit in a cover
against Clemson thirty eight twenty four and allowed Arizona State

(37:34):
to get back in the game in the fourth quarter.
But keep in mind, guys, if this was an opening
round playoff matchup at Forrigo, Ohio State's last data point
had been that loss of a three touchdown favorite against Michigan,
and Texas had come up just short against Georgia in
the SEC Conference championship game like they did, this game
would be priced around to pick them. So for that reason,
the handicap, in my opinion, gets to be extremely difficult.

(37:55):
Where I think there is a little bit of opportunity
is being able to lean into these two defenses. I
think both of them can have success against their offensive counterparts.
But let's see if Steve Sarkisian in Texas throw a
curveball at Ohio State and maybe go a little bit
pass happier than what we've seen, given how inefficient their
ground game has been when they stepped up in class
against some of the top defenses on their schedule.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Todd switching ahead to the NFL Wildcard weekend, let's work
backwards how to books handle what transpired with the game
getting moved to State Farmed Stadium, and how do you
see that Monday night affair between the Rams and the Vikings.

Speaker 8 (38:28):
It's a great question, and it's not going to be
one size fits Also, I'll encourage all the listeners to
check their various house rules to see if the game
is still honored his action regardless of the venue change,
because a lot of shops will say that as long
as the Rams are still designated the home team, those
bets will be action. But there are other shops, given
the change of venue and the fact that there won't
be any home field advantage, that'll go through full refunds,

(38:49):
repost the number and have players bet into those updated prices,
which have the Vikings anywhere from a two to a
two and a half point favorite total remain largely unchanged
in that forty seven and a half forty eight range.
For me, three was going to be my bypoint for
the Rams at home at so far, and it'll continue
to be my bypoint if the number leaks out. I
think this kind of unfortunate event. You hate to minimize

(39:10):
what's gone on, but can have a real galvanizing effect
on a roster. I mean, we saw the Saints on
a very different level kind of use all the unfortunate
circumstances around that unspeakable horror down there on New Year's Eve,
use it to kind of rally for the city, coming
up just short, but playing their best game of the season.
And I think given Matthew Stafford's at comments, along with
the rest of the Rams, they feel this gives their

(39:32):
fans an opportunity for a little bit of an escape
given everything that you guys have gone through with these
wildfires still ravaging southern California.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
All Right, lastly, Todd, the big news today's A Flowers
is out. LA Pro Bowl receiver Lamar Jackson is going
to be missing against the Steelers.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
Does it matter? I still like the Ravens big in
this one. What do you think?

Speaker 5 (39:50):
No?

Speaker 8 (39:50):
I think it does change the dynamic a little bit.
And it's mainly again Smith, because of the number difference.
A couple of weeks ago when these teams did battle,
before the Steelers were riding a four game losing.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Streat going into the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (40:01):
We were looking at Baltimore right around a six and
a half seven point favorite, and that was a Ravens
team that had all of their complement of weapons offensively,
and the Steelers went into that game without George Pickens.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Now the roles are a little bit reverse, but you're forced.

Speaker 8 (40:13):
To pay a premium expecting the Ravens to win by margin.
If they're passing attack is at all hampered or Lamar
Jackson struggles like we've seen in the postseason, it can
make it tough to find that level of separation. But
this is a Steelers offense that's desperate for the big
play and I'm not sure they'll find it against the
Ravens defense that has really changed some of the looks
that they provided since they moved Marlin Humphrey to the slot,

(40:34):
started to give Kyle Hamilton a little bit more free
range in that free safety role, and has made this
defense much more complete. So I'm fully on board with
this game being bet under the total like we've seen,
and if the number drifted out to ten, it was
widely available. I think it's Steelers or Pass.

Speaker 4 (40:48):
But not a game that I'm running to the window
to try and bet.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Check them out.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
It covers the Bet the Board podcast. See them at
CBS Sports HQ. It is Todd Furman on Twitter at
Todd Ferman get the link there for the latest Bet
the Boy podcast TOT as.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Always, buddy, appreciate it, man, enjoy the games this weekend.
We'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 8 (41:04):
You guys are the same, and stay safe out there
at all the listeners as.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Well, my friends, thanks to you. Good buddy shit it.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Sarah goes he likes it, the Raven Steelers under I'll
tell you what I like the over because Lamar is
gonna score all those points himself. We get back into
two coaches making headlines following tonight's college football game.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
One might be a little unexpected. That's next, Fox
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