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April 20, 2023 • 36 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the sticky story behind Max Scherzer pitching against the Dodgers tonight, the future for the Lakers and so much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well dressed Hobo.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Well, I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Work to aspire to that as we move into our
next chapter of our professional lives together here at Fox
Sports Radio. That you know what I I might wear
pants more regularly. Maybe it's so good tie.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
I don't know. We'll see what it comes to.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
I member, the first time I met you were wearing
a suit and tie, and I'm like, dude, what are
you doing?

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Man? You know, we might have to bring that back,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
And I mean there's gonna be more video elements and
more ranting and screaming at you.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
So it doesn't matter. I've been living in La now
for a long time and I am West Coast casual
with being sweatpants, maybe designer sweats, a hoodie and a
baseball hat that's a uniform.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Well yeah, as long as we're behind the desk, then
you can get away with the sweatpants.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
So good right now? In the NBA, one game going on,
and this went from boy, the Nuggets are just blowing
out the Tea Wolves to hey, man, this is a
serious game. The Timberwolves hang forty on the Nuggets in
the third quarter. This is now a ninety three eighty
nine game. The Nuggets were up by over twenty for

(02:02):
a long time. Anthony Edwards with twenty seven points, go
ahead forty seven. Shut up? What do you want to
say about Anthony Edwards? Tight shirt. Oh wait, wait, wait wait,
tight shirt doesn't Anthony. He doesn't know Anthony. What do
you want to say about Anthony Edwards tight shirt?

Speaker 6 (02:19):
Well, the thing is I thought he was gonna be
an all star player, but he just didn't match up
to it. After the first draft, being like, you know,
a third rounder coming in, but it's all good.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
See, I thought you were gonna say, goose goose. I
was giving you your goose line because that that's the
guy who played goose is Anthony.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
Oh so is this the guy who thinks he's ant
man but it's really Paul No, right, I think right?

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yeah, what are you talking? Really? I like that he
added a third round to the NBA draft.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, I got the third round of the fourth round,
fifth round, taking it back, old shit.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Isn't like what they do in the NFL. They just
showed on TV the first one then the rest is
like whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, how many rounds do you think the NFL draft are?

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I mean one?

Speaker 7 (02:55):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:56):
Right, it's just one round and then they just sit
around like a game of risk and just pick players.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yes, that's exactly how it works, and then get broken.
Yeah yeah, that's how you want to play. Yeah, players
go to free agency. Sure, once in a while they'll
change it and instead of risk, it's more like Stratigo.
But that's only one that's only once every like seven
or eight years. Like they really keep it for risk.

Speaker 7 (03:16):
The Jets are like Russia and nobody talks to them.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Yeah, you go and stage a coup and and take
over there. There's there's space and their players.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Is it isn't in risk. If you command Madagascar, it's
a really big deal. But yeah, like attack right like
mad I remember Madagascar being.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
Like then you get to play the song in the background.

Speaker 7 (03:35):
I don't know. Let's ask Alex the lion exact Laurencio.
I cannot move it moving no more?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah, Alex ties she was probably playing risk right now
while he's running the show.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
Hi, Jason, So what do I do here? Do I
invade Australia go over to Europe?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Oh no, no, get Australia first? Too much beachfront property okay,
all the way up and all those animals that can
kill you though, yes a lot.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
Yeah, and then you can deploy those as an animal army.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's like a sci fi movie, like
you diplay all the animals in Australia that are deadly
and you make them attack for you all.

Speaker 7 (04:05):
For way, do I take over Culver City?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Forget?

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Forget it?

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Oh but do me favor save the great Barrier? Reef. Okay,
make sure that still stands. We got to make sure
that's okay.

Speaker 7 (04:14):
It's not looking good. It's not Lebron's coming this time.
I promise Jason's.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Not looking good. Hey, Lebron's gotta worry more about Dylan Brooks. Okay,
really you think he has to worry about it?

Speaker 7 (04:25):
A fake tough guy, Sure he does.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Fake tough guy beat him tonight.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Look, we'll get to that, and we'll get to that.

Speaker 7 (04:33):
Let's get to a real fake tough guy we'll get Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
So today, outside of.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
The NBA, former would be Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I don't care if I don't where he goes.

Speaker 5 (04:45):
Along with rafey Al palm Arrow and all those guys.

Speaker 7 (04:47):
Now that is closed like the Slammer behind him.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Come on, I know he doesn't. He doesn't go with
those guys.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Slammer.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
So, the Mets beat the Dodgers today, and let me
preface it, that's Mets beat the Dodgers today, the Met
sending the Dodgers back under five hundred and winning the series.
The Mets beat the Dodgers today, which hang the ban
headline and part of a minor headline kind of like
off track betting in the Himalayas a very minor headline.

(05:15):
Mac Schuzer gets caught cheating. Okay, So here's what happens.
Second inning.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
The umpires check mac Shuzer's glove like they do all pictures,
and they said, hey, d to me, your hands a
little sticky here. He says, ah, it's rosin and sweat,
all right, go wash them off. Okay. So he went
into the clubhouse in full view of an MLB official.
He wash his hands with alcohol. Okay, comes back out.
They look at it again. They go, dude, your hand
is still sticky. Change gloves, whatever's going on. He goes,

(05:42):
it's rosin and sweat. Change gloves, your gle your hand
is still sticky. Okay, He changes gloves. He's not happy
about it, and he goes in and washes his hands
again with alcohol. Now at this point, my knuckles would
be cracking and he'd be getting really white, and I
would like when I was a kid, I would lick
them to get the white off. I didn't like that.
I didn't really All I did was contribute to my
knuckles getting white. I just gotta use lotion, you know,

(06:04):
for a couple of days. Uh So, yeah, wash his
hands again a second time without cahol. I go back
out there to pitch against the Dodgers. They check his
glove again and go, dude, this is worse than it
was the last couple of innings. So home plan on
fire Phil because he decided to say, Max Scherzer.

Speaker 7 (06:21):
You're a dumbauf.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
Your ejected, just got ejected, just got arrested.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
No, no, got arrested, arrested. You do not get arrested
for rosen.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
You should be no, no, no, no, no perpetrate fraud
on betters.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
First, get yourself tossed from the game.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
First of all, you don't think he was using rosin
and sweat when he was with the Dodgers. Come on, man,
rosen and sweat because they probably ran out of rosin.
That's probably what happened. Uh. Here's the play by play
call of Max Scherzer waving goodbye to the game today
for the New York Mets.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Max Scherzer has been ejected from the game by first
face umpire Phil Cuzzy, and for the second straight inning,
when Schurzer went back to the mound, they checked his
glove because he saw something that he felt Max could
not have and after an animated conversation, he checked Schurzer

(07:19):
from the game.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Cheeter Met's radio network on the call that was it
for Surezer. He explained himself after the game by saying this.

Speaker 8 (07:28):
I said, I swear my kid's life. I'm not using
anything else. This is sweat and rosin. Sweat and rosin.
I keep saying it over and over and they touch
my hand. They say it's sticky, and I like, yes,
it is because it's sweat and rosin. And they say
it's too sticky. It's They threw me out because of
that guilty sweat.

Speaker 7 (07:48):
Mike, what's the first thing you do when you're guilty?
You blame it on the wife and kids. I swear
on their lives.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
No, that's it, you bring in mom, Come on, No
one's blaming it on you.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Blame He didn't blame it on his wife and kids.
Could he just swore on their lives?

Speaker 4 (08:04):
He wasn't using you know, I mean my kids they
use a lot of paint. We were finger painting and
it was sticky when I had to go to the ballpark.

Speaker 7 (08:12):
You're supposed to tell the truth when you do that, Jason.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Listen, Mike, my kids like to finger paint with Spiderteck
and maybe I got something like.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
What I use some and I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (08:23):
You know it's I got a little on my hand
and it didn't come off quite so easily.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
You know. And here we are, so you're saying through this,
so you're saying to me, all right, Jason, Jason, come on, man,
this is your guy, this is your team. I say,
you know what, I don't need this story today. I
do not need this story. I needed the Mets winning today.
I did not need this today that mears Max Schur's
are facing a suspension times it's not gonna be. We'll
get to that part of it and stop with that.

(08:50):
That's not happening. I did not need this story today.
I don't care about Hall of Fame. I don't care
if it hurts his Hall of Fame chances. I care
about what happens over the next one hundred and thirty games, right.
I don't give a crap about all of fame chances.
I want to he's got to pitch this year, and okay,
that's what I care about. And I do not need
this story again. I'd say it again, I do not

(09:10):
need this story, but I have no choice because the
Mets can't have nice things. Just when things start going okay,
things are working all right, No, no, here comes another headline.
Just wait, Mets will be well for a couple of
days and we'll find out. Hey, Justin Verlander's getting pushed
back to twenty twenty nine before he can make his
New York Mets debut. This is this Justin and Steve
Cohen's gonna have to go by shoe Otani for one

(09:32):
hundred billion dollars. I'm waiting because the Mets can't have
nice things. I'm used to headlines like this now. I mean, it.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
Should only be a short suspension, so you know it's
it's a couple of starts and some embarrassment and as
long as you don't run into Cuzy, who seems to
be the only umpire who does more than the courtesy check. Right,
we normally have the gift of the guy outside doing
the pat down, remember that one, Like he's a big guy,

(10:00):
A bit uh a bit overweight, and he just kind
of does the two pats go on in. That's generally
what we're getting from from the umpires going out and
talking to the players. It's where did you eat? You know,
you got a good spot to get a drink later on?
All right, good, let's we did this charade. Let's keep going. No,
cause he seems to be the guy that he's decided.

(10:20):
It's his point of emphasis on the twenty twenty three season.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Now, remember, there's only so much you can do, you know,
with the rosin and sweat, because you don't have a
lot of time between pitches, so you got to bring
something extra if you want to do this efficiently.

Speaker 9 (10:36):
No.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Look, and here's the thing. I'm not defending Max Scherzer.
I'm not defending Max Schurzer. But I mean because Phil
Couzy said this was the stickiest someone's hand has been
three years, right, that's it. In the three years we're
doing I've never got a hand that sticky. Oh boy,
Ty Shirt's gonna save that one for the ten o'clock hour. Yeah,
having that in this second. But I do agree when

(10:59):
Schurzer said, I gotta be the biggest idiot in the world.
If they tell me to wash my hand and I
go back out there with my hand being sticky, I
agree that you know they're gonna check. So why would
you go back out there with your hand being sticky
so that that I get I get that part of it.
He did yeah, and then yeah, right, and then he
and then he did it again. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
It's like it's like last week, the the asinine situation
that happened.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Who which pitcher was It was, hey, don't do that again,
you know, don't come back.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
And then he came right back out there with the
same same bit and still got to pitch.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah. I mean you had you.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Know, the adjudication of this is is laughable.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Meanwhile, you got a guy like Cody Bellinger that comes back,
gets a standing go and he's trying to compose his
emotions and gets.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Called for the fats you know, the pitch count. Yeah,
get it, get in a box, let's go.

Speaker 9 (11:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:50):
That motion has no place in baseball.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
What do you do? Congratulations Cody? Oh strike one? Wait,
but they're just saying, I gotta yeah, strike one, Cody,
that's happening for you.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
And they did it before the game. Getting the damn.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Box Now now, look now to be to be quite fit.
Here's how this is going to come out. Ready, games,
I am come stop, I am calm, and I am
cool because I have had time to figure this out.
And and look, the bottom line is this. They couldn't
tell what the substance was, right, So it's not like
Phil Cousey said, oh this is spider tact. They didn't

(12:23):
know what it was. It was just sticky, he said.
He said it was rosin and sweat. Unless they confiscated
the glove, and then you know, you have the evidence.
Guy come out with with the with the gloves on,
puts it in the bag, zips it up, says take
this back to evidence. Right, You're like, they do it
all the just deflator at and take it back to evidence.
We gonna take this back to evidence. Unless they kept

(12:43):
it because they told him to change his glove. What
are they gonna say, Oh, now we're gonna take a
look at your glove and then take it. I don't
know where this glove has been outside the chain of command.
I don't know where someone could have done something this glove.
I don't know, So they don't know what it is.
So it's gonna wind up being a ten game suspension.
He's gonna get this sticky this on my hand, he's
going to I don't want it to be. I was
eating a bunch of m and ms in between innings.

(13:04):
That's what happened. I kept eating the eminem's.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
It started to melt off.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
That happened.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Now someone did send me a tweet going back to
a Twitter thing that Trevor Bauer had done when he
was with the Dodgers, showing rosin sweat and how it
would stick to the palm of his hand and all
of those things. So you know, you don't negate there's
a stickiness to it. But this seems to be, at
least from Couzy's estimation, far more egregious, as if you

(13:33):
had Max Scherzer create the rosin concoction of all rosin concoctions,
defying all I've got a super rosin over here.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Sure. Uh now, look, this is this is the thing
about about rosin a spider tack. Everything else is don't Again,
I'm not defending Max Scherzer, but a lot of hitters
will say I don't mind if they use a spider
tack because they keeps gets him to keep better control.
The baseball So some pitchers who are wild, they don't
mind if they use it because I don't want something

(14:05):
flying at my head because they're throwing a pitch they
can't control. But it is still illegal, you know. But
it's not. It's not the overall doom and gloom of all.
This is peds. This is someone cheating to the extent
of that. There are some degrees of this, but.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Look, unless he's done it for two hundred wins, I mean,
that's the whole other thing.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Man. Yeah, I can't. I can't defend I can't defend
Max Schurzer. I'm just hoping that this turns out to
be something that is nothing, because that's all I have.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Because the Mets man, now they take this away and
he suddenly has no control.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Is the absolute Fox Sports Radio. We got to talk
to Frank the Tank tonight on the show You're So Superfan.
Internet Sensation about Max Scherzer, The Jason Smith Show of
Mike Carbon Live the Tirack dot coms is Max Schurzer,
who swore on the lives of his wife and kid.

(15:00):
He did not use anything other than rosin and sweat,
which is why he got thrown out of the game
today against the Dodgers. Umpire Phil because he checked his
hand three times, didn't like his hand any three times,
threw him out, said this was something off with Shurezer
said there was more than just rosin and sweat. There
wasn't the normal thing. Of course, because he was on

(15:21):
a crew that ejected the only other two pitchers who
have ever been ejected since they've been checking people's hands
over the course of the past couple of years. So
you have shures are saying I'm swearing to my wife
and kid. You have Couzy being a guy that was
on the crew, the crew that's ejected all three pictures
so far. This is just a mess. Messy. This is
just a mess.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
No.

Speaker 4 (15:42):
But but historically in television and film, I mean there's
so many instances that as soon as you swear on
somebody's grave or swear on their souls, I mean you've
basically just held up a sign that's blinking it says
I'm guilty.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Nah. But see, but that was the thing. But you
think of the children when you would have about that
children when you were a kid, right, and and you
wanted to convince if something was true, and you wanted
to convince somebody of one of your friends, Hey, did
you did you tell Timmy did I accidentally went to
the bathroom or whatever? I know? And you go, no, no, no, dude,

(16:17):
I don't know. I don't know. I was trying, but
then I got no, you're not having a conversation. I
was thinking about kids, you know, in a diaper. I
was just thinking kids. I'm like, no, they wouldn't be
talking like that.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
Well they would.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
I mean I went away from I went away from
I went away from it.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
It's like if you wanted to convince it. Hey, dude, dude,
I swear on my mother's life that I didn't I
didn't say that. That was like, okay, well now now
I agree with you. I agree. But that was the
thing right when you were a kid, it was okay,
you must be telling the truth. And I don't know,
at some point where and you know, the show's out.
You know how evil people are. It's like, hey, I
could say I swear in my mom's life and I

(16:53):
could be lying about it, and they'll expect me to
it to be the truth. Hey, I'm winning right here.
I don't know where that changed.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
I don't know. I always kicked in on that after.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
You know, I never bought it.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
As soon as you started going to those grand declarations,
the further out out there you went there. Maybe I
watched you match musical theater as a kid.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
I don't know, Jenny, I did not make out with
your best friend at the party. I swear my mother's life.
I didn't do that. Everybody is lying, but seventy people
behind seventeen people are lying. Do you want to believe
seventeen people? You want to believe me? I swear in
my mother's life. I mean maybe high school is where
that thing went downhill, but like middle school, like elementary school,

(17:36):
middle school like that?

Speaker 5 (17:37):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Like that? Okay, you don't do that unless unless you're
really told that. You don't swear in anybody's life unless
you're telling the truth.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
And you know, I'm really gonna go over the top
to prove my innocence with this musical number I'd like
to present Shaggy.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Wasn't me.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
She even got me on camera. Yeah, doesn't matter, it
still wasn't me.

Speaker 5 (17:59):
This wasn't me.

Speaker 7 (18:00):
I mean, look at it.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
He's singing. He's singing the whole thing of his innocence?
How do you have to believe that?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
What do I always tell you is the is the best?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Didn't deny?

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well that too, Deny everything. Just deny it, just absolutely
just deny it. And what are they gonna do? Right?
Just deny what I told you story of what happened
in high school with a with a guy that was
messing around in the aisle and he got caught on camera.
He said it wasn't him.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
I mean on camera.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
We had a guy in the produce I we had
cameras that would go through all the aisles I work,
you know, work in the supermarket. I was. We had
this camera that would go through all the aisles just
to catch like shoplifters or people who were screwing around
at work.

Speaker 7 (18:40):
They never catch you with the watermelons.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
One guy I was working with, that's not a true story.
There was there was stop, there was no no stories.
So this one guy was that I was working with,
he was crazy, Like you think I'm crazy. This guy
was like you know, he was crazy. He was like
riding the electric jack that you used stuff out like
in between the eye dangerous, right it is, But like

(19:03):
nobody was in this too, was like eight o'clock at night,
eight thirty. And you can tell when the camera would
move because you would hear it. You'd hear the shit.
And I heard it behind me going shit like it
stopped and I look, I go, oh, man, And he's
riding the electric jack in between the produced tables, in
between the vegetable tail. Like the first two tables were fruits,
his next two tables were vegetable tables. He's going in
and out and he's waving, and he's and he's doing

(19:26):
all kinds of stuff and he stops dances like sticking
his butt out at the camera and I go, dude,
what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (19:30):
Man?

Speaker 1 (19:31):
The kids that's the camera doesn't work. The camera doesn't work.
O dude, the camera works. Are you kidding? So eventually,
after like after that happened, they called him down. They
mentioned him and said please come to the security office
security office, like oh, this guy's still getting fired or
he's getting sent home and I'm gonna have to work
to night by myself. Or he walked using.

Speaker 5 (19:48):
That expertly show to where he now had a new job.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
So he walks down there like you know, like cocking
a walk, like hey, I'm walking down. I'm like, dude's
gonna get fired. Man, I'm gonna watch a guy get
fired tonight. So he goes down there and I'm going,
this is this is all that's gonna happen. He's getting
fired and I'm working by myself. And then about ten
minutes later, he comes walking back down and I said,
they send you home. He goes me and I said,
he goes, no, I said, what happened? He goes, well,

(20:15):
they had the camera in the aisle and I said, yeah,
I know they did. I told you you said it
didn't work. He was, ah, it did. I said, what
happened was they showed me the video and I said yeah,
And I looked at it and I said, that's not me.
What do you mean it's not there's only two people
in the aisle. What do you mean, love you? He
just said, I said it wasn't me. And I said,
you can't prove it. You can't prove that was me,

(20:37):
even though like he had a very specific hat that
he was wearing, and he had and I'm going, what
do you mean it wasn't me? He goes, they were
just so surprised. I said that they didn't know what
to do. They just said get the hell out of
here and get back to work and don't don't be
back in here again. And the camera was in our aisle.
The rest of the night was like it didn't move.
So there was no messing around and no stopping to
talk to girls or anything like that. No, No, we

(20:58):
all had to bust our ass because he decided to
go down and say it wasn't me. And I'm like,
how do you? And I said, well, something's gonna happen.
He's gonna wind up getting suspended somebody, and then it
just nothing ever happened. He just said it wasn't me.
So I'm like, Okay, now I know if ever happens,
I'm just gonna deny it and then I'm gonna be
good to go, right. And I did not get advice.

Speaker 7 (21:18):
Was that the same excuse you gave when they found
holes in the watermelons?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Stop and not a true story? Uh? There was. I
I couldn't believe it. He just said it wasn't me,
and I'm like, okay, they got them on camera, they
got him, do it?

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Do you swears?

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I swear swear my wife and kids. Uh, I only
have one kid.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Actually so well, I mean you don't know, Yeah, you
have a brother all this.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Oh yeah, well if I do twenty three and me,
I don't know, Maybe maybe I find out that I
have more people. Maybe Frank the tank is my brother.
Maybe I find there's no maybe.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
And all those people you gave hats to back in
the day, I mean.

Speaker 7 (21:53):
Yeah, it's your family.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Yeah, yay.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
You guys look alike, you talk alike, you root for
the mats you do.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
You get upset at like things like traffic and and
transit being uh late.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, New Jersey transit is the absolute worst. But yeah, no,
just deny it. Just and I said, that's all. Back
sures that deny it. What are you gonna say? What
was it, Phil, causey says, I don't know what it was.
I don't know what it was. It was more than that,
So what was it? I don't know. So now, how
do you suspend the guy more than take eighty games?
You can't. You can't.

Speaker 7 (22:23):
You don't have any proof, Mike, you no.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
This is this is the part.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Of the movie. It is performance enhancing.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
This is the part in the movie where the cops
get pissed because they walk into the das off. The
DA says, they looks at the evidence and closed it. Says,
you don't have it. You gotta give me more. They're like,
what do you mean, We've given you this case on
a silver platter. I can't go into court with this.
I would get left out. You gotta give me more.
They leaving it all mad. They're all mad at each other, going,
we gotta take this into our own hands.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
And then he says, I thought you could indict a
ham sandwich and then you go from there sandwich.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
This is that part of damn sandwich.

Speaker 7 (22:55):
This is this isn't a movie. This is real life.
To jail, he's not.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
He's getting ten games and he's gonna he's gonna appeel
it and he's gonna get less than that because they're
gonna say, what was it. They're gonna say, we don't know.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
Think this was a big joke. This is we're not
kidding around about that. I'm I'm telling you how thinking
came into my stadium.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I'm sorry try to fraud.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
How many people lost their over bets because he got
his ass kicked out. I'm sorry In terms of innings,
pitch strikeout.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Justin I'm sorry the Dodgers and Lakers both lost on
the same day.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Lakers didn't even play tonight. Be sure to catch live
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Speaker 1 (23:42):
One of the big results, we'll get to the Lakers
in Memphis coming up in a few minutes. But one
of the big results tonight, Milwaukee without Giannis thumps the
heat one thirty eight two. Milwaukee was in control of
the entire game. They put forty six on the board
in the second quarter. It was a big night for
Bobby Portous, big night for brook Lopez drew holiday a

(24:03):
conon off the bench, angles off the bench. He was
plus twenty eight. The Bucks have shown you. And this
is why I had no worry about the Bucks after
losing Game one, because they just don't show up for
game ones. Right, They're five and seven and the Mike
Butdenholzer era, which is not great, and they got to
figure that out because eventually it's gonna bite him. But
I wasn't worried because I know how good the Bucks

(24:24):
are and this is a game they won without Jannis,
who went from doubtful to questionable to probable to questionable
to out right. He went up and down. No Yannis
for Game two after injuring his back in Game one,
and they still go on and win this game by sixteen.
We don't talk about the Bucks enough because the Bucks
are pretty boring right as as a team and there

(24:46):
that that go out and work and that's a compliment. Right,
Giannis is a great player, there's no and that's a
count when you win boring, that's I'm not saying, uh,
they win bored. No, they win boring, and that's a
comp They go out and they win, and Giannis is great,
and the supporting doesn't get the credit it deserves because
if you took Giannis out of the equation, this Bucks
team that's pretty deep, that has guys who can burn

(25:08):
you off the bench, and they're pretty deep one through five.
Without Yannis, this is a team that would finish around
fifth in the Eastern Conference because the Eastern Conference is better,
and might finish third or fourth in the West over
an eighty two game season. That's how good the Bucks are, right,
So it's okay, that's great, man. If you're that good
without a superstar, man, Now we're we don't spend a

(25:30):
lot enough time talking about Middleton and Lopez and Grayson Allen.
We don't. But now you add Yannest to the equation.
Oh my goodness, they scratch you and go, wait a minute,
So why haven't they won more? Why haven't they won
the last three championships? If they're this good, this tell yeah,
as good as they are, you think, wait a minute,
maybe they were a little overrated. Without you, how do

(25:51):
they not go all the way? How do they not
win more than they have so far? This should have
been the Eastern Conference's answer to the Golden State Warriors dynasty.
You have Giannis, who knows nobody has his skill set.
Not one person in the NBA in the last twenty
five thirty years has had the skill set of Yiannis.
Some guys have had a very close skill set, you
know Lebron, but Giannis is even taller and bigger, can play.

(26:14):
Nobody has that. And when you have that, and you
when you compare Giannis and you pair them up with
the rest of the supporting cast, the Bucks have figured
out It's like, how do they lose a game?

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Right?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I get your board? During the regular season, but in
the playoffs, how are you not in the NBA finals
every year? How are you not? Have you not won
multiple championships by now? So, while it's a great credit
to the Bucks organization they won tonight, winning without Yan
thought they could do it, think about this now, aren't
they underachieving in the last few years? Without Yon? Great
regular season? Can't put it together in the playoffs? More?
They had the one championship, which is great, But shouldn't

(26:45):
they have won more? Think about the last three for you.
Shouldn't they have won more?

Speaker 5 (26:48):
You just blew my mind.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
That's like a title of for a Ted Talk or
something where suddenly there's a giant title that shows up
and the music swells and then you launch into a
diet tribe about this team, or a nice musical number
with some dancing and top hats. Either way, it's pretty
entertaining to consider because we do talk about two separate

(27:11):
seasons that you play in the NBA. We joked about
it a little bit Mark Medina where we talked about it,
and I don't know that he caught that I was
trying to be funny about it, but we do. Actually
the instance where you've got a guy like Durant, You
got a guy like Kawhi, Leonard Pick any of your
other would be superstars.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
That are on your brain. Lebron James, Anthony Davis.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
Guys that missed time extended, right, they're hurt, but then
it goes a little lot longer than originally suspected, or
load management, back to backs, whatever. And the Bucks say,
Yiannis played every game, but they just went about their
business and quietly did so. We talked about what was
going on with the Celtics, new coach, new circumstances. There

(27:56):
are there superstars getting along, Jalen Brown and the that
explodes and calls it cut on his hand, all of
those things, and and the Sixers that just give us
headlines for days. Add the Knicks Cleveland kind of went
and just did their thing quietly. But the Bucks, we
just figure, all right, we'll talk about them come off April,

(28:17):
and we do that every year.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
So yeah, I guess.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
The supposition is then that they're gonna go run rough
shot and win titles. So I could get on board
with this from hey, the easy, set it and forget it.
We'll see you in April too. Why aren't you playing
better in April? Why aren't you finishing the job in June?

Speaker 1 (28:37):
That's it?

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Why are you planning your vacations before mid June? That's
just wrong. Yeah, I'm on board. I can jump on board.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
That Twitter it out about a Fresco Mike gets swollen
down the Jason Smiths or with Mike Carbon Your head
spinning that you're jumping on board with that right now,
isn't No? It really kind of spinning. Yeah it does,
but it's it is. It goes back to show though.
I guess the summary statement on it is how hard
it is to actually follow through and win a title.

(29:07):
That everything's got to go your way. Add the officiating,
ad injuries, add game.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Flow and all of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
There's a million instances, a million moments and plays that
go through.

Speaker 5 (29:19):
So no matter how good you are, doesn't work. I mean,
think about it.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
In the Atlanta Braves, you curse them for a decade
and a half. Well they win one title. All of
that greatness and they got one.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
So what do you do?

Speaker 4 (29:30):
You laugh at them because you say, how we got
eighty six jers.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
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Speaker 1 (29:45):
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Speaker 7 (30:03):
I'll drop my pants right here.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Okay, it's not Live Drop Friday. We got to we
got to go to Smith until Live Drop Friday. Two
more shows until live drop.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
Jason, I remember ordering this melon with a hole.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Two more shows until live Drop Friday. That's that's what
we have.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
Melon blanker.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Okay, you know what you guys, Hey, I'm like sures,
I'm gonna come in tomorrow night and I'm gonna shove
Rosin down your throat ty shirt and you're gonna swallow
it and go, oh my god, I could die. I'm
gonna do that, and then I'm gonna I'm gonna get
all my sweat into a jar and throw it on you.

Speaker 7 (30:47):
That's a lot of sweat buckets.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
No, that's like like I'll take Benny for a walk
and come back. Yall the sweat just just pour it
right over me, right, just big enough for your sweat.
Here's a are right here. I have a funny feeling
that Lebron James scoring forty points in Game three against
the Grizzlies is gonna be a pretty popular bet over

(31:11):
the next couple of days. Why. Well, everybody's favorite agitator,
Dylan Brooks, who actually said this while he was wearing
a big chain with his initials nodded the big dB.

Speaker 7 (31:21):
Fake tough guy.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Uh. This is what he had to say following the
Grizzlies win over the Lakers night. The Lakers missed a
huge opportunity to to really throw the hammer down on
this series. It's a big epic fail. It was ridiculous
they couldn't win this game. But Dylan Brooks, who has
realized that he people pay attention to me when I
say and do crazy things on the court, I found

(31:43):
my Niche I found my angle. This was him being
asked about a back and forth with Lebron James during
the game and why he said he doesn't pay attention
to Lebron. Take a listen, you and Lebron have that exchange.
There are people out there that say, maybe maybe you
shouldn't do that with one of the better players in
the game.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
I guess what were you thinking of?

Speaker 9 (32:03):
I don't care. He's old, you know what I mean.
That's I was waiting for that. I was respecting him
to do that Game four, Game five. He wanted to
say something when I got my four five. You shouldn't
have saying that earlier on But you know, I pulled Bears.

(32:24):
I don't respect no one until they come and give
me forty. So I pride myself on you know what
I do is defense and taking on any challenge that's
on the board.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
That's Dylan Brooks, don't I don't listen to anybody until
they give me forty sometimes, so Lebron scoring forty is
going to be a thing. You know.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Then keep an eye on prop bets coming up as
they get released this evening.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
You know, a lot of people don't like Dylan Brooks.
They don't like the fact that he look, this is
the guy he trends all the time on Twitter because
he gets into it. He agitated and he says things
like this after the game. I kind of dig that
the guy found a niche for himself, right, Like everybody
wants to stand, everybody wants to be a star. Everybody
wants to be listened to. And who's listening to Dylan Brooks.

(33:12):
This is a you know, this is a guy out
out of Oregon. Now, he's twenty seven. He's a guy
that scores about fifteen a game. He's a pretty good player, right,
He's a pretty good support player. But that's kind of
what he does. Right. He'll give you about fifteen points
a game, and he'll agitate and he'll play pretty good defense. Right.
The guy is a valuable player. But there's lots of
guys like this in the NBA, right, Jaron Jackson's defensive

(33:33):
player of the Earybody's like, yeah, I don't even know
what he looks like. Doesn't matter. I watch NBA. I
don't know what he looks like. But I kind of
dig that Dylan Brooks has found a way for people
to talk about him and and and make and give
him a brand, Like the Dylan Brooks brand is out
there and always got to do is be outlandish and
say crazy ass things like this and continue to look

(33:54):
like he wants to fight people on the court. People
spend years trying to find a way to cut through,
and he's found that way. Right now, I kind of
dig that about Dylan Brooks.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Oh, I got no problem, you know.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
I know there were that anonymous survey that was going
around and people talking about different players overrated and underrated,
all those kind of fun things. And part of the
thing with the Grizzlies, the feedback is, hey, they talk
too much for a team that hasn't wont anything. He's like, well,
the old ideas act as if you've been and as
long as you're consistent with it, win loser, draw. And

(34:26):
some of the criticism is that once they get, you know,
get down, they well they start to sulk and don't
have that same juice and energy and bravado, and that
you can break their spirits a little bit as you
break their bodies. Yes, stealing a little bit from our
superhero movies, but the idea just being for Dylan Brooks, Yeah,

(34:47):
be about it and let people know who you are.
Just make sure that you come to the next game
and back it up because Lebron's going to try to
run through you.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
Right. He jawed at them a little bit.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
They had a little bit of an exchange and then
Brooks hit a three point shit got late and tried
to do the stare down and Lebron just kept looking
straight ahead and didn't acknowledge. So that'll be in film
review and I'm sure Lebron will address that at some point.
Maybe he'll call him and nobody or somebody.

Speaker 7 (35:13):
Hey, guys, bigger fake tough guy Dylan Brooks or Max Sures.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Stop Max Sure is a tough guy. He wanted to
fight Phil cuz he's like for real today, Like I
was like, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
He wanted to fight him for real. He could have
body slammed and he didn't.

Speaker 7 (35:26):
Well, because there's because he's a fake tough guy.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, there's a couple other umpires around him, and then
Buck Showalter would have had to jump in, and Buck
is in his late sixties, So.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Yeah, I think he could him like Don Zimmer he was.

Speaker 1 (35:40):
That video still disturbs me to this day.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
Guy he's very proud.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Does it's long, it's like twenty years old at this point.
It really does. Jason.

Speaker 7 (35:48):
It's always funny how Dylan Brooks never says what he
says to anybody's face though, Oh.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
No, he said, but hiding this is how he's found
his niche man people, Yeah, come on, there's not many.

Speaker 7 (36:02):
There's not a lot of he has to get you
a ring.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
He said, that's okay, we'll see what happens on time
to take it. That's why lebron forty points is going
to be a very popular bet. We got big stuff
from the NBA further coming up next right here, Fox
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