August 2, 2024 • 41 mins
On tonight's edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the hosts kick off the hour by discussing the NFL Hall Of Fame Game after the preseason matchup between the Houston Texans and Chicago Bears ended with 3:31 remaining in the third quarter Thursday night due to inclement weather! Next, the guys delve into Gordon Hayward’s basketball career following the announcement of his retirement after 14 seasons in the NBA. Finally, Jason and Mike react to Angel's superstar Mike Trouts season getting cut short after the outfielder tore his meniscus. Tune in to Hour 3 for all this and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
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biggest Olympics story the day bar none in a second.
But I gotta say sometimes, Mike and I didn't know
I was this guy. But maybe because I'm getting older,
I'm appreciating certain things more. Okay, is that I find
myself and today was kind of bummed because of the weather.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
They didn't have it. They had to cover it up.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But I find myself watching beach volleyball whenever it's on,
because it's it's in front of the Eiffel Tower, and
it just looks so cool. I like, I just I mean,
I don't I don't know anything about it. I know
anything about the teams. I keep every time I watch
beach volleyball, I just think about, hey, would Tom Cruise
and Anthony Edwards really do well at this now? And
(01:28):
I don't know anything about it, but I just watch
it because hey, it's fun and it's right in front
of the Eiffel Tower. And I remember I would in fact,
if I was over there for the Olympics, they would say, hey,
what events do you want to go?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
See?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I want to go to the soccer games.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I want to go to the women's soccer games, want
to go to the basketball games, and I want to
go to beach volleyball. Well why, I just want to
sit in front of the Eiffel Tower just watch a
sporting event while I stare at the Eiffel Tower.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That's all I would want to do. It's not a
bad idea. I mean, I do appreciate there there's been
a running thread of people who are like sketch artists
or painters who are at the Olympic venues and they
just hang out all day and they and they paint
what they're seeing, including the Eiffel Tower. So I mean,
that's kind of cool, the tranquil thing in between cheers
and chaos on whatever playing surfaces. I'm gonna now paint
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from this position because I would never get this vantage
point of these monuments in France if it were not
for these hastily erected stands. So yeah, that's kind of cool,
a little bit of that. Not to mention the people watching.
You never know who's gonna roll up to different events,
so I mean you got that too. You might be
sitting next to royalty. Mean, hell, you saw last week
people were sitting next to Mick Jagger and they didn't
(02:40):
know they care, they were too busy looking at their phones.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I love that picture. Everybody's on their phone and MICUs
is saying, they're going.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Really, no one's asking me about anything. No one's asking me.
But I mean, it's got to be the greatest thing
in the world too, though, right, it's got to be
that great conflicted thing. Because there's been a lot of
reports over the course of their tours that he loves
just slipping into local dive bars, especially if they have
live music, and just grabbing a beer, and he's usually
(03:06):
able to come in and out and not get her
asked too much. Here, he's at the Olympics. Everybody else
is on the phone, and he's just sitting there with
his hands folded, just staring at the action right watching
whatever sports and he's being left alone. That's gotta be
the greatest thing in the world when you're part of
the world's greatest rock and roll band. Dude, do you
(03:27):
want to ask me about? Stop me up? You want
to ask no questions about now? You don't want that? Okay,
that's no problem. You included bite bite my head off
in the set list for Santa Clara. There's a lunatic
on the radio for Fox Sports Radio who's brought that
song up a bunch since it was released. Did you
see his Twitter account that he was going to the
show and it was that for him, Oh I hang
(03:48):
up and listen offline.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Is that the same guy that says, hey, guns and
Roses has to play Coma every concert.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's the worst song and they keep playing it. Is
that that guy? Oh? Yeah, I got blocked him on Twitter?
A long time ago. Mate, he's not there. I get
taught him anymore. He's a swifty You can go all
the concerts and do heavy wants and make mice. Let's say,
I'm just not that gun. Come on, I had a
great three week run. I got to, you know, the
experience of the Swifties and dumblin went and saw duly
(04:13):
in the Afghan Wigs here in Los Angeles, and then
I got the Stones up in Santa Clair. But you've
seen the Afghan Wigs like a thousand times. Doesn't even
shows are always it looking, man, It's like a relieperience.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Going to Afghan Wigs is like meeting your friend at
the corner for a beer. Like stop, man, just stop,
I'll give you Taylor Swift and okay, the Rolling Stone.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You know what, though, you how do you diminish my
experience in what has meaning in my life? I'm just saying,
it's not like Hi, I scored tickets to an unbelievable content. No, okay,
you went to see your friends. Basically, I met my friends.
Good to see them, and they did, and they shot
me a note saying, hey, good to see you in
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the crowd. You know all that was great because you know,
I you know the whole catalog.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'll give you two out of three. I'll give you
two out of three. I mean, it was good for
my soul and it made me maybe a kinder, gentler,
more in tune radio partner for the weeks too, because
I got that experience that maybe it lifted some weight
off of my soul to make. You know, So when
you had a bad hot take, I didn't obliterate you. Really,
(05:19):
I said, yes.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And really, this from a guy who started the show
tonight saying I'm anti player safety in the NFL. Really, really,
that you're gonna play that card now, you're my position
has changed.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That was three hours ago. I remember what happened two
hours ago. I remember what it was a great take.
It was a great analysis of a play that's player safety.
You know, that's the hot well, because if you're anti
what they're doing here, you're saying all the moves they're making,
quote in terms of player safety, that you're against it.
(05:53):
So I just said, I just led with the conclusion.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Anti player safety, anti play, biggest story of the Olympics today.
And you can see we can say this because it's
tangible because you look at the Olympic ratings. Nobody watched
more Olympics than Simone Biles and the US women winning
the team gold medal on Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And I guarantee you it's.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Gonna be similar results when we know the ratings tomorrow.
Watching Simone Biles, who won the all around earlier today
at the Olympics. Look watching Simone Biles come back. There's
a couple of big takeaways from this, right And you
hear people call Simone Biles the greatest of all time,
and and he' say, Okay, we've seen a lot of
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great gymnasts from the United States over the past twenty
twenty five years. Are you talking about the era born
with Mary lou Rehtten back in nineteen eighty four. We've
seen a lot of great gymnasts.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Carrie shrug, everybody else.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, But Simone Biles, who at twenty seven is still
doing this.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
We realize that.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
At twenty seven, she's still the greatest of all time,
and it's not close. The biggest things watching her today
and watching watching this event and look, and I'm a
you know, I'm a layman's fan of women's gymnastics. Well,
why when something big is going on. We went to
a couple of gymnastics events at UCLA the last couple
of years when Kaitlin Osani was there, and she was
(07:13):
you know, we thought she was going to be the
next great Olympic Hohle.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Viral sensation and yeah everywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
But watching Simone Biles and you watch everybody go and
do their routines and you go, oh, hey, those routines
were pretty good, and then she comes out with a
degree of difficulty that just blows what everybody else does away,
like there's nobody that can do that routine. Like you
watch it, see everybody go and it's it's kind of similar,
(07:40):
and you see who's able to stick their landing, who
has a step out of bounds. But then you watch
Simone Biles go and you go there is just like
no comparing her degree of difficulty with what everybody else
is doing, which is why you hear, hey, all Simone
Biles has to do is nail her routine. Right, Also
you got to do is nail her routine and she's
gonna win, Like, well, why is it today? Because her
degree of difficulty is so great and she gets higher
(08:04):
in the air by everybody else by so much it's
not even close.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I can't get over how high she gets and what she's.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Like, Oh my goodness, like she could probably jump up
and put her feet through a basketball hoop.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's how high she gets off the floor. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And her degree of difficulty says, Yeah, if I nail
my routine, I'm gonna get a fourteen or a fifteen,
and I'm gonna win the all around gold medal. I'm
gonna win here. And that's exactly what she does. You
could see the smile on her face after she hit
her first big move and you knew this was gonna
be that kind of of rolling to a championship. But
I mean, there's just a you can see the difference
even if you've not watched gymnastics before if you just
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watch the last five people go in the in the
final round right for the floor exercise, and you watch
the four people go before, and you saw some people
like Sunny Lee was really good, and you saw a
lot of really good performances, and then someone Biles went
and you go, oh, nobody does anything like that. Nobody
does absolutely anything like that, And that's why she's the greatest.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Well, and that's one of those as we go through
and try to evaluate, like I know who you know
who scored a basket, I know who kicked a ball
into a soccer goal. In terms of judging some of
these other events, diving and certainly gymnastics, all right, you're
the qualified folks. Tell me what was great and why
this works. Right, we're talking about, you know, if a
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foot goes out of bounds and it's not the quote
cleanest of landings, because that's what we were taught when
we were kids, when we were watching that ninety two team. Right,
the aforementioned strug with Shannon Miller and Dominique Dawes and
Bella COOLi running around and all those things we remember
from our youth is the degree of difficulty. And look
at what she came back from. Right, there's the huge
(09:44):
documentary on Netflix that's done so well, kind of chronicling
the last couple of years. Remember, we were having a
lot of debates about what are the twisties and mental
health and being able to propel yourself as she does.
Clearly she's found peace and and whatever to get back
to this forum. But yeah, it's it's just a much
It's a different sport. You're watching in those finals as
(10:07):
you go through, right her cheering for Andrade, who's torner
a cl what three times in the last four years.
I think this is what I read so talk about,
you know, resilience and and tenacity to get back back
up literally uh, you know, sometimes on the palmer horse
as it were. But it's it's just an incredible story.
And and you watch this and it's like the human
(10:29):
body does these things. And then I look at my
human body and I say, wow, we are not the same.
They're not the same at all. And you just marvel
at it, right as as the level of speed and
propelling yourself in the air and trusting you know, based
on the repetition and the heart. I mean, you want
(10:51):
to watch more training video, like what the hell are you?
You know, when when you're trying to remove that Like
we used to watch some of the stuff they do
with the old circus videos of like all right, there
they are with all the harnesses and all the guide
wires or whatever. It's like, all right, those are gonna
be removed for this next thing. It's like, wait, what's
(11:11):
the same thing here with someone Biles Like all right,
I get it running, all right, handstand cool, you know,
and running and flipp is like no, Now she's got
her dude, three rotations of her body while doing this
all the way across the floor, like how how and
you just marvel at it and so, you know, deserved
and we talk about goats and she was wearing a
(11:34):
really expensive necklace of a goat, showing it off after
the fact.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Now, I'm glad you mentioned the mental health part of it,
because she talked about it a lot after said, Look,
I'm super proud of the way I was able to
come back and be able to do this over the
past few years, and mental health has been a big
deal for me. And you know, it's it's time to
have the conversation about just how different generations refer to
(12:00):
different quotes, right, like, like it's about mental health, did
you give you for instance? So like I just found
out for my daughter the day, I didn't know this,
but I said the phrase I'm gonna be out of
pocket for the next few hours. And she kind of
looked at me and like, I'm saying out of pocket
because forever out of pocket has meant what I'm unavailable, right,
I'm out of pocket? And I said what she was
(12:21):
no Dad out of pocket means like, that's that's inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I go, no, it's not.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Out of pocket means no Dad out of pocket means inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I go no.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So like gen Z has co opted out of pocket
to be inappropriate because other people I've talked to me
the same thing.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I'm like, wow, okay, and out of pocket just meant
this is what it cost you.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, yeah, right out of pocket, way out of pocket costs.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
It's a monetary thing. It's from nineteen fifty.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
To nineteen ninety five, out of pocket meant what it
cost me ninety five till twenty twenty, it meant I'm unavailable,
And now it means, oh, I it's inappropriate. But now
look here's some own biles And you've heard a lot
you know in Naomi Osaka as well. Uh, when you
hear a lot of players talk about mental health, and
when I hear gen Z athletes, and I've told you
(13:10):
the biggest, uh, the biggest thing that that I think
I'll face for me personally in the next few years
is understanding the gen Z athlete because it's a different
mindset of of coming in than it is that that
you and I can whether you're gen X or millennials.
And when I hear when the gen Z athlete, when
when some Owe Biles talks about mental health, and there's
(13:30):
a bit of backlash that comes along with it because generally,
when you think, oh, I'm doing this for my mental health,
your mind goes to are you gonna self harm? Are
you in a deep and incredible depression? Are you is
there something really really wrong? Because when you say mental health,
that's what everybody jumps to, right least, that's an idea tula.
But for the younger generations, for gen Z, mental health
(13:52):
is just confidence or it's belief in yourself, or it's
it's some sort of of being right mentally like that's
how that's what mental health encapsulates. And that's when when
you hear athletes cite mental health. Sometimes we think it's
more it's it's it's a serious, uh life threatening type
of thing, and sometimes it's a performance based type of
mental health. And that's what Simone Biles is talking about overcoming.
(14:16):
And that's when I see the backlash. I go, no,
that's not what she means when she's saying mental health.
She means, hey, she got the twisties, Uh, you know,
four years ago, three years ago, and she lost her
confidence being able to compete. She couldn't compete. Uh and
and it was such a big deal. And when she
cited mental health, I remember the back lads, was mental health.
What's wrong?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
What's wrong? What is this? When she can't get no, she.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Lost her confidence, she got caught in the air and
the twisties is a very common thing in gymnastics. So
when you hear so I hear some athletes say mental health,
I have to understand that that's what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
That it's hey, it's about confidence, it's about this.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Now, some athletes use mental health to shield themselves, as
a way to say I don't want to do it,
so I'm gonna claim mental health, that's all.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But that's also a prevalent thing in the workplace, right,
mental health day. And then you're at Disneyland, which is good, yeah,
from it, but but it's that kind of thing whereas
you know, growing up, it was all right, are you sick? Well, no,
why aren't you at work? Right? It certainly, and I
(15:19):
struggle with that, like it's still a very real thing
for me, Like I we we we look in a
decade We've gone through a lot of stuff in our
personal lives and and with family and extended circumstances. Whatever.
Work was always a place of refuge for me because
for four hours, if I didn't let it in, it
(15:40):
wasn't affecting me. Yeah it was. Maybe I was a
little more terse, maybe I was more harsh against the
mets uh and whatever else, but you know, it's it's
just that type of thing that you know, for us,
it was you just you just power through it, right.
I mean how many times you know, growing up, and
certainly in my family we did. We'd have the worst
(16:00):
circumstances with people getting sick or you know, God forbid
they pass, and the answer to everybody was, yeah, work
on Monday, because you just compartmentalized and you didn't you
ever actually dealt with it. I think kids, whatever generation
we ascribe to them, are better with saying all right,
I need to deal with this and this is how
I'm gonna do it, whether you like it or not.
(16:22):
And I think there's again owing to it's healthier that
way as opposed to the old hey bottle it up
and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Just sweeping under the rug, sweep it under the rug
and forget about it, don't don't talk about that.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That's the way we do it in our family. That's
all it goes. Well. And then back to Biles in particular,
I mean, look at the type of moves we're talking
about her making on a mat If mentally you're not
in the right frame of mind. We're talking about severe
injuries here, right. This is not just I just didn't
feel like doing this that the other. I mean, you're
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propelling yourself into the air, doing vaults, doing all these things.
If your mental health and mental precision is not there
in concert with the physical side, it really can be
disastrous just that fast. So yeah, when she was dismissed
years ago for it, it is really a disheartening, disheartening thing,
(17:15):
But also I think a great learning opportunity for all
of us in our sports media world and those watching
sports at large.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Exit out by to Fresca, Exit swallen down the Jason
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little bit of difference when it comes to mental health
and what certain athletes mean by it because different.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Generations it means different things.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
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All Right, the Bears One tonight, Man, Come on Bear's one.
Let's go, you win, buddy, you win tonight. Man, It's okay.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, I saw a thing from the Circus sportsbook though,
all full game bets and everything was getting run out.
All really, yeah, we'll see if they if everybody followed
the same way. But yeah, he basically just said, yeah,
no bets, game got called. Oh that stinks, good luck
(20:10):
with all of that. Yeah, but they try to do
some good will and whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, thanks to thanks to the weather, the Bears won.
It's okay, yeap, no, that's it. It was an official game.
It's kind of like you know in baseball, we got
to the sixth, let's go. Yeah, it counts and everything.
It's just like spend. It's like, just spend my ass. No,
this game's over. Hey, it's in the books. It says
we played. We're five, right. But look, we'll get back
(20:41):
into the NFL coming up in a few minutes. We
have to talk about the new NFL kickoff rule. However. Uh,
we had a big retirement in the NBA today. Gordon
Hayward retired after a pretty big career throughout the NBA.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
And you know, his.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Is one of those careers where all of a sudden
he was gonna be a superstar, and he gets it.
You know, he goes to you know, he gets Butler
to the National Championship game, and then they get back
there the year after. We don't talk about Butler for
a second, but Gordon Hayward, who came within a couple
of shots of potentially upsetting Duke and winning the national title,
goes to the NBA fourteen years. He was a ninth
(21:20):
overall pick in the twenty ten draft. All Star in
twenty seventeen. And this is where you really feel for
him because it never happened for him in Boston because
in his very first game he got a really ugly
leg injury that I can still remember seeing. It cost
him the season. By the time he came back, he
wasn't quite the same player. Boston had sort of moved
(21:43):
on around him, and then eventually he moved on. Had
a couple more stops in the NBA before he announced
his retirement. And you know, I always felt for it
because I said, you know, he's a really good player,
and I think the Celtics was gonna wind up being
the right fit for him. Like look all start with
you talk great, but the Celtics. That's gonna be the
right fit. He's gonna score a ton and his very
(22:05):
first game, it's an injury that none of us even
want to think about looking at again. I mean, his
career arc could have been much different. You're talking about
a healthy Gordon Hayward the last seven years to go
along with Jason Tatum when he comes into the league,
and maybe it's an extra championship for Boston, you know,
or two along the way. Because he was that good.
He was that kind of scorer. Look, he did one
(22:28):
thing really well, right, he did he scored. He was
a scorer. He was a small forward that would score
and put points on the board. He wasn't someone that
was gonna be all round. This was you need a
guy that can score. He was like Carmelo Anthony. I
thought he was gonna come in and be that next
kind of guy where hey, don't worry about rebounds, that says,
this is a guy you want twenty five a game.
He's gonna give me twenty five a game and he's
gonna be that solid at it. And that injury robbed him,
(22:49):
and it probably robbed the Celtics that made one or
two championships.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, and go back to that twenty nineteen season when
it all rounded back into shape. Tatum and Brown and
full of fact, Kemba Walker in fifty six games average
twenty points and then he averaged seventeen point five, all
five starters averaging in double digits. So you did get
that one big run. But to your point, I mean,
you watch what he was in Utah, and really it
(23:15):
seemed like that was the next step, if nothing else
for notoriety, You're going to Boston, You're gonna be one
of the key pieces of a build with a young nucleus,
and just like that, it was done. So a hell
of a career. I mean you look at the number
of seasons that he was averaging, you know, seventeen plus points.
(23:36):
I mean, it's an impressive run. Fifteen point two for
the career. I'll take it with the longevity and the
paychecks that came with it. But yeah, certainly what could
have been. That's a hell of a run. Man. Good
for him fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
But honestly, his legacy is the twenty ten national title game. Rightly,
you think about what he had, the injury, but it's
weird for a guy who played fourteen years in the NBA,
very successful, got paid a lot of money. His legacy
is the National Championship game against Duke in twenty ten. Now,
just for a second, I mean it was only it
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wasn't even fifteen years ago. Butler went to back to
back National Championship games. Just think about that Horizon League.
Butler goes and the second year they go back with
a different team, like Gordon Hayward, Like you think, oh, well,
Gordon Hayward was really good ninth overall picked that, No,
he was going after that first they went back with
new guys the next year. It's how does Butler Brad
Stevens builds his his his dynasty, goes on to coach
(24:36):
the Celtics, become.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
The GM, all the great things he did. But you
think about Butler.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Wait, Butler went to back to back National Championship games,
and you think how insane that is? And I look
and the two years they went, they did beat a
lot of high seeds, you know, getting there, So it
was a very it was a very fortuitous run for them,
especially the second year, like they beat like a thirteen
and eleven and nine. But that first year, I remember
(25:04):
when they went there I thought Syracuse we were gonna
win the title that year. We were great, right, we
had we were great, We were we were solid. We
were gonna beat Butler. And I still remember leading them
by five with about seven minutes to go in the
game and they came down and took a crazy ass
three and I'm like, great, we're getting the rebound. We're
gonna go up seven or eight, and they made the three.
It might have been Mack who made the three. And
(25:25):
I was like, they just won't go away, and they
just wore Syracuse down.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And I'm going this, we were going to the national champion.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
We had a great draw, we had we had eight
and eleven seeds waiting for Syracuse in the Elite eight
and final form like we're gonna win. But Butler finds
a way to get there, and they get there against Duke,
and Hayward has two chances to win the game. He
misses a turnaround jumper with about six or seven seconds
left to go in the game. That might have been
(25:53):
that would have won the game, right to one point game.
Butler has the ball. It's not the greatest of looks.
It's Gordon Hayward's gonna take this shot, and he dribbles
to the baseline and kind of instead of trying to
get to the hoop, he pulls his big ass fade
away where he's at a bad angle, but he still
almost goes But okay, and you know, so Duke goes
down to the free throw line, up by a point
(26:15):
with three and a half seconds left to go, and
this is where Gordon Hayward nearly made his legend even bigger,
and Mike Krzyzewski might have made one of the biggest
coaching mistakes of all time, but he got bailed out
because Brian Zubek's at the free throw line right. They're
up by a point with three and a half seconds
left to go, and he makes the first one, and
you think, okay, he's gonna make the second, and now
(26:37):
Butler's gonna have some crazy ass chance to hit a three,
and Coach k tells Zubec to miss the second shot.
And I remember being on the air that night and
I'm like, what the hell is he doing. He's just
put losing back on the table. There's three and a
half seconds left to go, and if Butler was a
little bit more, if they thought it was gonna happen.
(26:57):
If they had a little bit more time to plan
about it, they might I had a better look. But
with three and a half second you can't. You can't
miss a shot on purpose. With three and a half
seconds left, you can't put losing back on the table.
But Coach K talked about and said, no, the flow
of the game. I like what happened, and Gordon Hayward,
of course, from mid court, has a shot that rims out.
That would have been a three, that would have won
(27:18):
the national championship, and Coach K gets bailed out from
that because Gordon Hayward happened to miss. And I look
at that and I go, that was a guy not
thinking clearly. Like if there was like a second and
a half left to go and it was by the
time they get the ball, they're just chucking it up
from from their own free throw line. Okay, it's not
going but three and a half seconds. Butler could have
(27:38):
got the ball, thrown it down court, hit a jumper
and suddenly we're talking overtime or they win the game.
I mean, he put losing back on the table and
he got bailed out. I never wanted a shot to
go more than I wanted Gordon Hayward to hit that
three from half court when he threw up that shot
at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Oh, sure, they hate watching if Duke was real I mean,
look at those barn Burners though, sixty one to fifty
nine the final. That one your game, Butler Syracuse sixty
three fifty nine. Realize Heyward only took seven field goal
attempts second, Yeah, I was, They just wore us down.
I was not happy. Seven of eight from the line,
but do seventeen points but four of seven? Yeah? Not happy?
(28:17):
Good times, buddy, Thanks for reminding me that not happy. Well, Oh,
I just wanted to bring back the fact that we
talk about these games. They were great examples of In hindsight,
you realize, wow, great games late, making a play, missing
a shot, like all of those things on the table,
sixty three fifty nine, sixty one fifty nine. Normally in
(28:37):
the moment, you're like, what the hell am I watching?
This is not esthetically pleasing at all. Yet there are
two games that are indelibly etched into the annals of
college basketball history, and we think of Gordon Hayward on
this the retirement, congratulations on a job done. In some
moments that college basketball certainly remembers for a long time.
(29:00):
Let's hear that moment.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Here's the play by play of the near miracle shot
that might have put Mike Shrzewsky on the mount Rushmore
of worst coaching decisions ever. Butler has no timeouts, so
they would hope that Zubec makes this.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Not gonna try. Let's hey, we're pulling it down, getting
around Zoe back at mid court launches the shop almost
went in.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
And joke, here's the King of the Dance twenty.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Ten, Jim Nance on the call right there. Couldn't he say, hey,
they escaped. Coach K got lucky and failed out of
a bad decision.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You know, I remember him in the post game and
Coach K say they asked him about it a couple
of times, and he got really flustered, and he just said, yeah,
but at the time, you know, you think about it.
If he throws it up, if it goes you know what,
it didn't go in, and that was the end of it.
He like, It's almost like I felt like he knew
that he made the bad call, but he wasn't gonna
admit it. Sure like he knew he'd and he just
(29:59):
stuck by it all the way through. Well, flow with it,
because of course, when you win the game, you can
defend anything you wanted.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Right. Oh, I knew there was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I know, But I remember in the postgame he got
so flustered because, yeah, but coach, you.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Did this, you did that? He was, yeah, but yep,
but he didn't make it. Okay, he didn't. It's over.
We won. He didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
People want to keep asking about this coaching decision, but
we won the game, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
It doesn't matter we want.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But I mean, that's like Gordon Hayward's legacy, because I
still see when you say Gordon Hayward's name.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Luckily, I don't think of the injury.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I think of the crazy fade away and him almost
making that shot from half court, and boy what that
would have been for Coach K.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I mean, I think legacy on both sides. Right, Yeah,
Hayward and still a legendary and great run in college,
but he becomes an absolute king and from Coach K
questions questions. Maybe we learned to spell his name when
we wrote the articles and the tweets, uh to go
against the decision making there.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Oh sure, and now look and also you look back
and go, wow, that would have that would have been
a that would have been a definent outlier when you
talk about Man, we had a mid major win the
national chances right like it would have been Syracuse, Connecticut,
North Carolina, Florida, Florida back to back, Kansas, North Carolina,
Butler Yukon, Kentucky, Louisville, Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
But for fromes, what about us? And you maybe change
the complexion of how teams were selected? Oh man, right,
because that was the argument with them making it back
to back as they did, was well, maybe you need
to open it up a little bit more. But if
they'd actually won, it.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Changes the calculus exit out about a Fresca exit swollen
down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen.
Right now, a guy who actually failed calculus in high school.
It's special DELIVERI steam to say with what's trending. Luckily
it's just basic algebra. He had to do with giving
the scores here.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Yeah, if it's standings and batting averages were good calculus, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I was good at it a long time ago. Now
it's no use Google.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Steve can you solve for X. No, but I can
tell you the Dodgers are only five out in the
loss column.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I can tell you they're coming off a losing month
for the first seven years. Yeah, Gordon Edward did retire
from the NBA after fourteen seasons, averaging fifteen points a game.
US women's basketball at the Olympics defeated Belgium today eighty
seven to seventy four. It was a four point lead
in the third quarter. The game was played near the
Belgian border. Very loud crowd, even booing when the US
(32:27):
was at the foul line. Twenty five thousand people on hand.
Breonna Stewart on the winning side, had twenty six points,
Asia Wilson twenty three points thirteen rebounds. So the US
women have won fifty seven straight in Olympic play, including
seven straight gold medals. This was, as we mentioned Monday,
possibly going to be a close game, and back in February,
(32:47):
the US won at the Buzzer at Belgium. After trailing
by thirteen there in the second half that was an
Olympic qualifier. US pulled away for an eleven point excuse
me thirteen with the late three to thirteen point win.
In this Sunday, US women at Tuno will face Germany
tu and Oh. The Americans easily beat them in a
recent tune up game. Andy Murray's tennis career ended after
(33:09):
a loss in Olympic doubles to the US. Murray is
now retired at age thirty seven, and I like his
tweet late tonight, never even liked tennis anyway. No mak
Djokovic gen Carlos Alkrez each advanced in singles, but women's
number one Egas Fiantec loss. Katie Laedeki win her thirteenth
(33:32):
career medal in the Olympic pool. Sim owned Bios took
the Olympic All Around goal and Gymnastics NFL Hall of
Fame game. The exhibition opener was tonight in Kanton, Ohio.
The Bears win twenty one seventeen over the Texans. Game
ended due to bad weather late third quarter. Titans wide
receiver DeAndre Hopkins will miss about four weeks with a
knee injury. The late game in Anaheim, as far as
(33:52):
Major League Baseball, went ten innings, Colorado with a two
run homer in the ninth to tie five to four. Rockies.
The final Angels out fielder Mike Trout out for the
year after another meniscus tear back to.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
You, Thank you, Steve O.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
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Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon live from the Tiraq dot Com studios. And
you've heard the big story today, Angel superstar Mike Trout
done for the season. He tried to rehab and come
back from his most recent injury about a week ago,
but it had to be cut short. He left the
(35:45):
game rehab game after a couple of innings with injury
and it was revealed today a tornminiscus.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
His twenty twenty four is over.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
And you know, we talked about this last week when
it looked like his rehab was done and now it's
it's kind of a way to really cement this that
here's another lost season for him, and I give a
lot of credit. Bill Shake into The La Times had
this on social media today. He's played a grand total
of forty one games in the second half of baseball
seasons the last four years. Right, forty one games he's
(36:17):
played in the last four years because he just can't.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Stay on the field.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And is it a tough conversation if I can't believe
it it is at this point. This is four seasons
where Mike Trout has had his season cut short or
either hasn't really played. He's thirty three. His body is
breaking down. He's a bigger guy. I knew when he
was twenty four to twenty five. Look, he's a bigger kid.
When he gets to thirty, his body's gonna break down.
He plays, He plays the outfield with an abandon that
(36:43):
you need to He's not afraid to crash into walls.
It's how it goes. When he comes back at thirty three,
you want other four to five years to be an
MLB star. Hey, he hits well enough. Obviously he's got
to come back as a full time DH. The only
time I want to see him in the field. Again,
is if his final inning before he retires, he goes
out there, he plays center field one last time, and
(37:03):
then he comes out everything is great. He comes off
the field, that's really it, because he's got to stay
on the field.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And while I'm not a doctor, at least I know that.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Okay, if you have a guy trouble staying healthy, he's
got lower body injuries. The less running he does, the
less stress the better. So if he's a full time
designated hitter, that's a lot less stressed than playing center
field every night the way he does. So if you
want to stay on the field at this point, he
kind of has to. I don't think it's a difficult conversation,
but if it is, if I'm the Angels, I say, listen,
this is how it's gotta be. We need your bat
(37:34):
in the lineup for one hundred and forty games a year,
and now you can add the next four or five
years of your career be really good ones instead of Hey,
every time you go out there, the Angels are gonna
hold their breath and you're gonna hold your breath. And
every time you run for a fly ball, something doesn't
happen to you. Don't slip, you don't run into the wall,
you don't overextend yourself and wind up with some kind
of soft tissue injury.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Like he's played his.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Last inning of center field, and it's got to be
that way if he's going to continue on his career.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, it's it's not a consultation, it's an edict like
this is it. And you saw the quotes from the
GM and everybody today, Hey, we expect them to be
back and you know, at the forefront of what our
activities and back to being among the greats and whatever else. Like, Yeah,
the thing that invisible ink is he will never see
(38:21):
the field again. The most you can have him maybe
you could steal an inning at first base once in
a while, no running, but he can still get stepped
on on the bag. So I mean, you got problems there,
but it's it's it's time. I mean, forty one games
four years, and you see the fact that when he
is still in the lineup, he's still got an ops
(38:43):
or around nine to fifty and an average of forty
six home runs on one hundred and six you know,
over a pro rated one hundred and sixty two game basis.
So it could still be an impact player at the plate,
So figure out how to leverage that into as many
games of availability as you can, as opposed to, hey,
let's roll the dice that this is the surgery that takes. Yeah,
it's just bad math at this point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I mean if I thought for a second, hey, he
can do some rehab, sit out, come back, be strong
and play.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
All right, But you've had four lost.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Seasons at this point, right, You've had You're even having
a great season two and a half years ago when
he was forty and eighty in one hundred and nineteen games, right,
he was still at that kind of level forty home
runs in one hundred and nineteen games, like what Aaron
Judge is doing right now. But that's what's most important,
is to keep that bat in the lineup because he's
still going to be somebody that goes thirty to forty
(39:35):
home runs over one hundred RBIs hit somewhere between two
eighty and three hundred, and you gotta have that. And
when you're looking at it now, I don't think there's
any other way to look at it other than I
can be in the lineup and do this. It's not
exactly what I want because why I love playing. Look,
this is why he was the best player in baseball
for that five to seven year stretch with averaging nearly
(39:55):
a ten war every year, because of what he did
both hitting and in the field. But you simply can't
do the field anymore.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
It's like when.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Billy Bean went to go visit Scott Haddiberg right, and
Brad Pitt tells Chris Pratt, you're gonna be in Jurassic Park,
and Brad Pitt tells him, Scott, your catching days are over, right.
We want you to play first base, but I'm gonna
catch you on my armfields. Yeah, Scott, you're catching days
a row. You're playing first base. Now you can't throw anymore.
I like that's kind of the conversation it, Scott, And
hopefully it's that easy to have say, look, rest, come back,
do this and look without playing the field. Maybe he
(40:27):
gets back on the field a little bit sooner, right,
Maybe he's back in the lineup much sooner than Hey,
he's got to run the field.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Come back.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Maybe he's back in that lineup a lot earlier. And
everybody wins. The Angels win. They have money that's being
spent on a guy that's actually on the field and
not on the il Anthony Rendon and and baseball fans
win because Mike Trout's playing one hundred and forty game season.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, unfortunately Rendon has to catch the strays and all
of this too, because it's all tied together, right. They
made the big push, signed a couple of big deals
to the tune of several hundred million dollars, and it
didn't work. Didn't work. You saw what ended Pool Holz
and he goes back to Saint Louis or whatever else
you saw. Otani was there, fantastic run, a lot of
(41:12):
promotional giveaways and and all that it was. It was
a fun time had by all, and we saw the heroics.
Rendon couldn't stay on the field.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Exit out, bout of Fresca, Exit swollen do On The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon live
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biggest Olympics story the day bar none in a second.
But I gotta say sometimes, Mike and I didn't know
I was this guy. But maybe because I'm getting older,
I'm appreciating certain things more. Okay, is that I find
myself and today was kind of bummed because of the weather.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
They didn't have it. They had to cover it up.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
But I find myself watching beach volleyball whenever it's on,
because it's it's in front of the Eiffel Tower, and
it just looks so cool. I like, I just I mean,
I don't I don't know anything about it. I know
anything about the teams. I keep every time I watch
beach volleyball, I just think about, hey, would Tom Cruise
and Anthony Edwards really do well at this now? And
(01:28):
I don't know anything about it, but I just watch
it because hey, it's fun and it's right in front
of the Eiffel Tower. And I remember I would in fact,
if I was over there for the Olympics, they would say, hey,
what events do you want to go?
Speaker 3 (01:40):
See?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
You?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I want to go to the soccer games.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I want to go to the women's soccer games, want
to go to the basketball games, and I want to
go to beach volleyball. Well why, I just want to
sit in front of the Eiffel Tower just watch a
sporting event while I stare at the Eiffel Tower.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
That's all I would want to do. It's not a
bad idea. I mean, I do appreciate there there's been
a running thread of people who are like sketch artists
or painters who are at the Olympic venues and they
just hang out all day and they and they paint
what they're seeing, including the Eiffel Tower. So I mean,
that's kind of cool, the tranquil thing in between cheers
and chaos on whatever playing surfaces. I'm gonna now paint
(02:18):
from this position because I would never get this vantage
point of these monuments in France if it were not
for these hastily erected stands. So yeah, that's kind of cool,
a little bit of that. Not to mention the people watching.
You never know who's gonna roll up to different events,
so I mean you got that too. You might be
sitting next to royalty. Mean, hell, you saw last week
people were sitting next to Mick Jagger and they didn't
(02:40):
know they care, they were too busy looking at their phones.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
I love that picture. Everybody's on their phone and MICUs
is saying, they're going.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Really, no one's asking me about anything. No one's asking me.
But I mean, it's got to be the greatest thing
in the world too, though, right, it's got to be
that great conflicted thing. Because there's been a lot of
reports over the course of their tours that he loves
just slipping into local dive bars, especially if they have
live music, and just grabbing a beer, and he's usually
(03:06):
able to come in and out and not get her
asked too much. Here, he's at the Olympics. Everybody else
is on the phone, and he's just sitting there with
his hands folded, just staring at the action right watching
whatever sports and he's being left alone. That's gotta be
the greatest thing in the world when you're part of
the world's greatest rock and roll band. Dude, do you
(03:27):
want to ask me about? Stop me up? You want
to ask no questions about now? You don't want that? Okay,
that's no problem. You included bite bite my head off
in the set list for Santa Clara. There's a lunatic
on the radio for Fox Sports Radio who's brought that
song up a bunch since it was released. Did you
see his Twitter account that he was going to the
show and it was that for him, Oh I hang
(03:48):
up and listen offline.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Is that the same guy that says, hey, guns and
Roses has to play Coma every concert.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
It's the worst song and they keep playing it. Is
that that guy? Oh? Yeah, I got blocked him on Twitter?
A long time ago. Mate, he's not there. I get
taught him anymore. He's a swifty You can go all
the concerts and do heavy wants and make mice. Let's say,
I'm just not that gun. Come on, I had a
great three week run. I got to, you know, the
experience of the Swifties and dumblin went and saw duly
(04:13):
in the Afghan Wigs here in Los Angeles, and then
I got the Stones up in Santa Clair. But you've
seen the Afghan Wigs like a thousand times. Doesn't even
shows are always it looking, man, It's like a relieperience.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Going to Afghan Wigs is like meeting your friend at
the corner for a beer. Like stop, man, just stop,
I'll give you Taylor Swift and okay, the Rolling Stone.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
You know what, though, you how do you diminish my
experience in what has meaning in my life? I'm just saying,
it's not like Hi, I scored tickets to an unbelievable content. No, okay,
you went to see your friends. Basically, I met my friends.
Good to see them, and they did, and they shot
me a note saying, hey, good to see you in
(04:50):
the crowd. You know all that was great because you know,
I you know the whole catalog.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
And.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
I'll give you two out of three. I'll give you
two out of three. I mean, it was good for
my soul and it made me maybe a kinder, gentler,
more in tune radio partner for the weeks too, because
I got that experience that maybe it lifted some weight
off of my soul to make. You know, So when
you had a bad hot take, I didn't obliterate you. Really,
(05:19):
I said, yes.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And really, this from a guy who started the show
tonight saying I'm anti player safety in the NFL. Really, really,
that you're gonna play that card now, you're my position
has changed.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
That was three hours ago. I remember what happened two
hours ago. I remember what it was a great take.
It was a great analysis of a play that's player safety.
You know, that's the hot well, because if you're anti
what they're doing here, you're saying all the moves they're making,
quote in terms of player safety, that you're against it.
(05:53):
So I just said, I just led with the conclusion.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Anti player safety, anti play, biggest story of the Olympics today.
And you can see we can say this because it's
tangible because you look at the Olympic ratings. Nobody watched
more Olympics than Simone Biles and the US women winning
the team gold medal on Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
And I guarantee you it's.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Gonna be similar results when we know the ratings tomorrow.
Watching Simone Biles, who won the all around earlier today
at the Olympics. Look watching Simone Biles come back. There's
a couple of big takeaways from this, right And you
hear people call Simone Biles the greatest of all time,
and and he' say, Okay, we've seen a lot of
(06:36):
great gymnasts from the United States over the past twenty
twenty five years. Are you talking about the era born
with Mary lou Rehtten back in nineteen eighty four. We've
seen a lot of great gymnasts.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Carrie shrug, everybody else.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Yeah, But Simone Biles, who at twenty seven is still
doing this.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
We realize that.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
At twenty seven, she's still the greatest of all time,
and it's not close. The biggest things watching her today
and watching watching this event and look, and I'm a
you know, I'm a layman's fan of women's gymnastics. Well,
why when something big is going on. We went to
a couple of gymnastics events at UCLA the last couple
of years when Kaitlin Osani was there, and she was
(07:13):
you know, we thought she was going to be the
next great Olympic Hohle.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Viral sensation and yeah everywhere.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
But watching Simone Biles and you watch everybody go and
do their routines and you go, oh, hey, those routines
were pretty good, and then she comes out with a
degree of difficulty that just blows what everybody else does away,
like there's nobody that can do that routine. Like you
watch it, see everybody go and it's it's kind of similar,
(07:40):
and you see who's able to stick their landing, who
has a step out of bounds. But then you watch
Simone Biles go and you go there is just like
no comparing her degree of difficulty with what everybody else
is doing, which is why you hear, hey, all Simone
Biles has to do is nail her routine. Right, Also
you got to do is nail her routine and she's
gonna win, Like, well, why is it today? Because her
degree of difficulty is so great and she gets higher
(08:04):
in the air by everybody else by so much it's
not even close.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I can't get over how high she gets and what she's.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Like, Oh my goodness, like she could probably jump up
and put her feet through a basketball hoop.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
That's how high she gets off the floor. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And her degree of difficulty says, Yeah, if I nail
my routine, I'm gonna get a fourteen or a fifteen,
and I'm gonna win the all around gold medal. I'm
gonna win here. And that's exactly what she does. You
could see the smile on her face after she hit
her first big move and you knew this was gonna
be that kind of of rolling to a championship. But
I mean, there's just a you can see the difference
even if you've not watched gymnastics before if you just
(08:41):
watch the last five people go in the in the
final round right for the floor exercise, and you watch
the four people go before, and you saw some people
like Sunny Lee was really good, and you saw a
lot of really good performances, and then someone Biles went
and you go, oh, nobody does anything like that. Nobody
does absolutely anything like that, And that's why she's the greatest.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Well, and that's one of those as we go through
and try to evaluate, like I know who you know
who scored a basket, I know who kicked a ball
into a soccer goal. In terms of judging some of
these other events, diving and certainly gymnastics, all right, you're
the qualified folks. Tell me what was great and why
this works. Right, we're talking about, you know, if a
(09:21):
foot goes out of bounds and it's not the quote
cleanest of landings, because that's what we were taught when
we were kids, when we were watching that ninety two team. Right,
the aforementioned strug with Shannon Miller and Dominique Dawes and
Bella COOLi running around and all those things we remember
from our youth is the degree of difficulty. And look
at what she came back from. Right, there's the huge
(09:44):
documentary on Netflix that's done so well, kind of chronicling
the last couple of years. Remember, we were having a
lot of debates about what are the twisties and mental
health and being able to propel yourself as she does.
Clearly she's found peace and and whatever to get back
to this forum. But yeah, it's it's just a much
It's a different sport. You're watching in those finals as
(10:07):
you go through, right her cheering for Andrade, who's torner
a cl what three times in the last four years.
I think this is what I read so talk about,
you know, resilience and and tenacity to get back back
up literally uh, you know, sometimes on the palmer horse
as it were. But it's it's just an incredible story.
And and you watch this and it's like the human
(10:29):
body does these things. And then I look at my
human body and I say, wow, we are not the same.
They're not the same at all. And you just marvel
at it, right as as the level of speed and
propelling yourself in the air and trusting you know, based
on the repetition and the heart. I mean, you want
(10:51):
to watch more training video, like what the hell are you?
You know, when when you're trying to remove that Like
we used to watch some of the stuff they do
with the old circus videos of like all right, there
they are with all the harnesses and all the guide
wires or whatever. It's like, all right, those are gonna
be removed for this next thing. It's like, wait, what's
(11:11):
the same thing here with someone Biles Like all right,
I get it running, all right, handstand cool, you know,
and running and flipp is like no, Now she's got
her dude, three rotations of her body while doing this
all the way across the floor, like how how and
you just marvel at it and so, you know, deserved
and we talk about goats and she was wearing a
(11:34):
really expensive necklace of a goat, showing it off after
the fact.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Now, I'm glad you mentioned the mental health part of it,
because she talked about it a lot after said, Look,
I'm super proud of the way I was able to
come back and be able to do this over the
past few years, and mental health has been a big
deal for me. And you know, it's it's time to
have the conversation about just how different generations refer to
(12:00):
different quotes, right, like, like it's about mental health, did
you give you for instance? So like I just found
out for my daughter the day, I didn't know this,
but I said the phrase I'm gonna be out of
pocket for the next few hours. And she kind of
looked at me and like, I'm saying out of pocket
because forever out of pocket has meant what I'm unavailable, right,
I'm out of pocket? And I said what she was
(12:21):
no Dad out of pocket means like, that's that's inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I go, no, it's not.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Out of pocket means no Dad out of pocket means inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I go no.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So like gen Z has co opted out of pocket
to be inappropriate because other people I've talked to me
the same thing.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I'm like, wow, okay, and out of pocket just meant
this is what it cost you.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Yeah, yeah, right out of pocket, way out of pocket costs.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
It's a monetary thing. It's from nineteen fifty.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
To nineteen ninety five, out of pocket meant what it
cost me ninety five till twenty twenty, it meant I'm unavailable,
And now it means, oh, I it's inappropriate. But now
look here's some own biles And you've heard a lot
you know in Naomi Osaka as well. Uh, when you
hear a lot of players talk about mental health, and
when I hear gen Z athletes, and I've told you
(13:10):
the biggest, uh, the biggest thing that that I think
I'll face for me personally in the next few years
is understanding the gen Z athlete because it's a different
mindset of of coming in than it is that that
you and I can whether you're gen X or millennials.
And when I hear when the gen Z athlete, when
when some Owe Biles talks about mental health, and there's
(13:30):
a bit of backlash that comes along with it because generally,
when you think, oh, I'm doing this for my mental health,
your mind goes to are you gonna self harm? Are
you in a deep and incredible depression? Are you is
there something really really wrong? Because when you say mental health,
that's what everybody jumps to, right least, that's an idea tula.
But for the younger generations, for gen Z, mental health
(13:52):
is just confidence or it's belief in yourself, or it's
it's some sort of of being right mentally like that's
how that's what mental health encapsulates. And that's when when
you hear athletes cite mental health. Sometimes we think it's
more it's it's it's a serious, uh life threatening type
of thing, and sometimes it's a performance based type of
mental health. And that's what Simone Biles is talking about overcoming.
(14:16):
And that's when I see the backlash. I go, no,
that's not what she means when she's saying mental health.
She means, hey, she got the twisties, Uh, you know,
four years ago, three years ago, and she lost her
confidence being able to compete. She couldn't compete. Uh and
and it was such a big deal. And when she
cited mental health, I remember the back lads, was mental health.
What's wrong?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
What's wrong? What is this? When she can't get no, she.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Lost her confidence, she got caught in the air and
the twisties is a very common thing in gymnastics. So
when you hear so I hear some athletes say mental health,
I have to understand that that's what they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
That it's hey, it's about confidence, it's about this.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Now, some athletes use mental health to shield themselves, as
a way to say I don't want to do it,
so I'm gonna claim mental health, that's all.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
But that's also a prevalent thing in the workplace, right,
mental health day. And then you're at Disneyland, which is good, yeah,
from it, but but it's that kind of thing whereas
you know, growing up, it was all right, are you sick? Well, no,
why aren't you at work? Right? It certainly, and I
(15:19):
struggle with that, like it's still a very real thing
for me, Like I we we we look in a
decade We've gone through a lot of stuff in our
personal lives and and with family and extended circumstances. Whatever.
Work was always a place of refuge for me because
for four hours, if I didn't let it in, it
(15:40):
wasn't affecting me. Yeah it was. Maybe I was a
little more terse, maybe I was more harsh against the
mets uh and whatever else, but you know, it's it's
just that type of thing that you know, for us,
it was you just you just power through it, right.
I mean how many times you know, growing up, and
certainly in my family we did. We'd have the worst
(16:00):
circumstances with people getting sick or you know, God forbid
they pass, and the answer to everybody was, yeah, work
on Monday, because you just compartmentalized and you didn't you
ever actually dealt with it. I think kids, whatever generation
we ascribe to them, are better with saying all right,
I need to deal with this and this is how
I'm gonna do it, whether you like it or not.
(16:22):
And I think there's again owing to it's healthier that
way as opposed to the old hey bottle it up
and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Just sweeping under the rug, sweep it under the rug
and forget about it, don't don't talk about that.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
That's the way we do it in our family. That's
all it goes. Well. And then back to Biles in particular,
I mean, look at the type of moves we're talking
about her making on a mat If mentally you're not
in the right frame of mind. We're talking about severe
injuries here, right. This is not just I just didn't
feel like doing this that the other. I mean, you're
(16:54):
propelling yourself into the air, doing vaults, doing all these things.
If your mental health and mental precision is not there
in concert with the physical side, it really can be
disastrous just that fast. So yeah, when she was dismissed
years ago for it, it is really a disheartening, disheartening thing,
(17:15):
But also I think a great learning opportunity for all
of us in our sports media world and those watching
sports at large.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
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Smith Show with my best friend Mike Cartman live from
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little bit of difference when it comes to mental health
and what certain athletes mean by it because different.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Generations it means different things.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
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the NBA. We got a break down because the legacy
of this guy is weird and it's crazy, and even
though he made hundreds of millions of dollars in his
NBA career, his legacy was set when he was in college.
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All Right, the Bears One tonight, Man, Come on Bear's one.
Let's go, you win, buddy, you win tonight. Man, It's okay.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Yeah, I saw a thing from the Circus sportsbook though,
all full game bets and everything was getting run out.
All really, yeah, we'll see if they if everybody followed
the same way. But yeah, he basically just said, yeah,
no bets, game got called. Oh that stinks, good luck
(20:10):
with all of that. Yeah, but they try to do
some good will and whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, thanks to thanks to the weather, the Bears won.
It's okay, yeap, no, that's it. It was an official game.
It's kind of like you know in baseball, we got
to the sixth, let's go. Yeah, it counts and everything.
It's just like spend. It's like, just spend my ass. No,
this game's over. Hey, it's in the books. It says
we played. We're five, right. But look, we'll get back
(20:41):
into the NFL coming up in a few minutes. We
have to talk about the new NFL kickoff rule. However. Uh,
we had a big retirement in the NBA today. Gordon
Hayward retired after a pretty big career throughout the NBA.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
And you know, his.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Is one of those careers where all of a sudden
he was gonna be a superstar, and he gets it.
You know, he goes to you know, he gets Butler
to the National Championship game, and then they get back
there the year after. We don't talk about Butler for
a second, but Gordon Hayward, who came within a couple
of shots of potentially upsetting Duke and winning the national title,
goes to the NBA fourteen years. He was a ninth
(21:20):
overall pick in the twenty ten draft. All Star in
twenty seventeen. And this is where you really feel for
him because it never happened for him in Boston because
in his very first game he got a really ugly
leg injury that I can still remember seeing. It cost
him the season. By the time he came back, he
wasn't quite the same player. Boston had sort of moved
(21:43):
on around him, and then eventually he moved on. Had
a couple more stops in the NBA before he announced
his retirement. And you know, I always felt for it
because I said, you know, he's a really good player,
and I think the Celtics was gonna wind up being
the right fit for him. Like look all start with
you talk great, but the Celtics. That's gonna be the
right fit. He's gonna score a ton and his very
(22:05):
first game, it's an injury that none of us even
want to think about looking at again. I mean, his
career arc could have been much different. You're talking about
a healthy Gordon Hayward the last seven years to go
along with Jason Tatum when he comes into the league,
and maybe it's an extra championship for Boston, you know,
or two along the way. Because he was that good.
He was that kind of scorer. Look, he did one
(22:28):
thing really well, right, he did he scored. He was
a scorer. He was a small forward that would score
and put points on the board. He wasn't someone that
was gonna be all round. This was you need a
guy that can score. He was like Carmelo Anthony. I
thought he was gonna come in and be that next
kind of guy where hey, don't worry about rebounds, that says,
this is a guy you want twenty five a game.
He's gonna give me twenty five a game and he's
gonna be that solid at it. And that injury robbed him,
(22:49):
and it probably robbed the Celtics that made one or
two championships.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Yeah, and go back to that twenty nineteen season when
it all rounded back into shape. Tatum and Brown and
full of fact, Kemba Walker in fifty six games average
twenty points and then he averaged seventeen point five, all
five starters averaging in double digits. So you did get
that one big run. But to your point, I mean,
you watch what he was in Utah, and really it
(23:15):
seemed like that was the next step, if nothing else
for notoriety, You're going to Boston, You're gonna be one
of the key pieces of a build with a young nucleus,
and just like that, it was done. So a hell
of a career. I mean you look at the number
of seasons that he was averaging, you know, seventeen plus points.
(23:36):
I mean, it's an impressive run. Fifteen point two for
the career. I'll take it with the longevity and the
paychecks that came with it. But yeah, certainly what could
have been. That's a hell of a run. Man. Good
for him fourteen years.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
But honestly, his legacy is the twenty ten national title game. Rightly,
you think about what he had, the injury, but it's
weird for a guy who played fourteen years in the NBA,
very successful, got paid a lot of money. His legacy
is the National Championship game against Duke in twenty ten. Now,
just for a second, I mean it was only it
(24:14):
wasn't even fifteen years ago. Butler went to back to
back National Championship games. Just think about that Horizon League.
Butler goes and the second year they go back with
a different team, like Gordon Hayward, Like you think, oh, well,
Gordon Hayward was really good ninth overall picked that, No,
he was going after that first they went back with
new guys the next year. It's how does Butler Brad
Stevens builds his his his dynasty, goes on to coach
(24:36):
the Celtics, become.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
The GM, all the great things he did. But you
think about Butler.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Wait, Butler went to back to back National Championship games,
and you think how insane that is? And I look
and the two years they went, they did beat a
lot of high seeds, you know, getting there, So it
was a very it was a very fortuitous run for them,
especially the second year, like they beat like a thirteen
and eleven and nine. But that first year, I remember
(25:04):
when they went there I thought Syracuse we were gonna
win the title that year. We were great, right, we
had we were great, We were we were solid. We
were gonna beat Butler. And I still remember leading them
by five with about seven minutes to go in the
game and they came down and took a crazy ass
three and I'm like, great, we're getting the rebound. We're
gonna go up seven or eight, and they made the three.
It might have been Mack who made the three. And
(25:25):
I was like, they just won't go away, and they
just wore Syracuse down.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And I'm going this, we were going to the national champion.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
We had a great draw, we had we had eight
and eleven seeds waiting for Syracuse in the Elite eight
and final form like we're gonna win. But Butler finds
a way to get there, and they get there against Duke,
and Hayward has two chances to win the game. He
misses a turnaround jumper with about six or seven seconds
left to go in the game. That might have been
(25:53):
that would have won the game, right to one point game.
Butler has the ball. It's not the greatest of looks.
It's Gordon Hayward's gonna take this shot, and he dribbles
to the baseline and kind of instead of trying to
get to the hoop, he pulls his big ass fade
away where he's at a bad angle, but he still
almost goes But okay, and you know, so Duke goes
down to the free throw line, up by a point
(26:15):
with three and a half seconds left to go, and
this is where Gordon Hayward nearly made his legend even bigger,
and Mike Krzyzewski might have made one of the biggest
coaching mistakes of all time, but he got bailed out
because Brian Zubek's at the free throw line right. They're
up by a point with three and a half seconds
left to go, and he makes the first one, and
you think, okay, he's gonna make the second, and now
(26:37):
Butler's gonna have some crazy ass chance to hit a three,
and Coach k tells Zubec to miss the second shot.
And I remember being on the air that night and
I'm like, what the hell is he doing. He's just
put losing back on the table. There's three and a
half seconds left to go, and if Butler was a
little bit more, if they thought it was gonna happen.
(26:57):
If they had a little bit more time to plan
about it, they might I had a better look. But
with three and a half second you can't. You can't
miss a shot on purpose. With three and a half
seconds left, you can't put losing back on the table.
But Coach K talked about and said, no, the flow
of the game. I like what happened, and Gordon Hayward,
of course, from mid court, has a shot that rims out.
That would have been a three, that would have won
(27:18):
the national championship, and Coach K gets bailed out from
that because Gordon Hayward happened to miss. And I look
at that and I go, that was a guy not
thinking clearly. Like if there was like a second and
a half left to go and it was by the
time they get the ball, they're just chucking it up
from from their own free throw line. Okay, it's not
going but three and a half seconds. Butler could have
(27:38):
got the ball, thrown it down court, hit a jumper
and suddenly we're talking overtime or they win the game.
I mean, he put losing back on the table and
he got bailed out. I never wanted a shot to
go more than I wanted Gordon Hayward to hit that
three from half court when he threw up that shot
at the end of the game.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Oh, sure, they hate watching if Duke was real I mean,
look at those barn Burners though, sixty one to fifty
nine the final. That one your game, Butler Syracuse sixty
three fifty nine. Realize Heyward only took seven field goal
attempts second, Yeah, I was, They just wore us down.
I was not happy. Seven of eight from the line,
but do seventeen points but four of seven? Yeah? Not happy?
(28:17):
Good times, buddy, Thanks for reminding me that not happy. Well, Oh,
I just wanted to bring back the fact that we
talk about these games. They were great examples of In hindsight,
you realize, wow, great games late, making a play, missing
a shot, like all of those things on the table,
sixty three fifty nine, sixty one fifty nine. Normally in
(28:37):
the moment, you're like, what the hell am I watching?
This is not esthetically pleasing at all. Yet there are
two games that are indelibly etched into the annals of
college basketball history, and we think of Gordon Hayward on
this the retirement, congratulations on a job done. In some
moments that college basketball certainly remembers for a long time.
(29:00):
Let's hear that moment.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Here's the play by play of the near miracle shot
that might have put Mike Shrzewsky on the mount Rushmore
of worst coaching decisions ever. Butler has no timeouts, so
they would hope that Zubec makes this.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Not gonna try. Let's hey, we're pulling it down, getting
around Zoe back at mid court launches the shop almost
went in.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
And joke, here's the King of the Dance twenty.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Ten, Jim Nance on the call right there. Couldn't he say, hey,
they escaped. Coach K got lucky and failed out of
a bad decision.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
You know, I remember him in the post game and
Coach K say they asked him about it a couple
of times, and he got really flustered, and he just said, yeah,
but at the time, you know, you think about it.
If he throws it up, if it goes you know what,
it didn't go in, and that was the end of it.
He like, It's almost like I felt like he knew
that he made the bad call, but he wasn't gonna
admit it. Sure like he knew he'd and he just
(29:59):
stuck by it all the way through. Well, flow with it,
because of course, when you win the game, you can
defend anything you wanted.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Right. Oh, I knew there was gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I know, But I remember in the postgame he got
so flustered because, yeah, but coach, you.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Did this, you did that? He was, yeah, but yep,
but he didn't make it. Okay, he didn't. It's over.
We won. He didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
People want to keep asking about this coaching decision, but
we won the game, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
It doesn't matter we want.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
But I mean, that's like Gordon Hayward's legacy, because I
still see when you say Gordon Hayward's name.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Luckily, I don't think of the injury.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
I think of the crazy fade away and him almost
making that shot from half court, and boy what that
would have been for Coach K.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
I mean, I think legacy on both sides. Right, Yeah,
Hayward and still a legendary and great run in college,
but he becomes an absolute king and from Coach K
questions questions. Maybe we learned to spell his name when
we wrote the articles and the tweets, uh to go
against the decision making there.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Oh sure, and now look and also you look back
and go, wow, that would have that would have been
a that would have been a definent outlier when you
talk about Man, we had a mid major win the
national chances right like it would have been Syracuse, Connecticut,
North Carolina, Florida, Florida back to back, Kansas, North Carolina,
Butler Yukon, Kentucky, Louisville, Connecticut.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
But for fromes, what about us? And you maybe change
the complexion of how teams were selected? Oh man, right,
because that was the argument with them making it back
to back as they did, was well, maybe you need
to open it up a little bit more. But if
they'd actually won, it.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Changes the calculus exit out about a Fresca exit swollen
down the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmen.
Right now, a guy who actually failed calculus in high school.
It's special DELIVERI steam to say with what's trending. Luckily
it's just basic algebra. He had to do with giving
the scores here.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Yeah, if it's standings and batting averages were good calculus, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
I was good at it a long time ago. Now
it's no use Google.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Steve can you solve for X. No, but I can
tell you the Dodgers are only five out in the
loss column.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
I can tell you they're coming off a losing month
for the first seven years. Yeah, Gordon Edward did retire
from the NBA after fourteen seasons, averaging fifteen points a game.
US women's basketball at the Olympics defeated Belgium today eighty
seven to seventy four. It was a four point lead
in the third quarter. The game was played near the
Belgian border. Very loud crowd, even booing when the US
(32:27):
was at the foul line. Twenty five thousand people on hand.
Breonna Stewart on the winning side, had twenty six points,
Asia Wilson twenty three points thirteen rebounds. So the US
women have won fifty seven straight in Olympic play, including
seven straight gold medals. This was, as we mentioned Monday,
possibly going to be a close game, and back in February,
(32:47):
the US won at the Buzzer at Belgium. After trailing
by thirteen there in the second half that was an
Olympic qualifier. US pulled away for an eleven point excuse
me thirteen with the late three to thirteen point win.
In this Sunday, US women at Tuno will face Germany
tu and Oh. The Americans easily beat them in a
recent tune up game. Andy Murray's tennis career ended after
(33:09):
a loss in Olympic doubles to the US. Murray is
now retired at age thirty seven, and I like his
tweet late tonight, never even liked tennis anyway. No mak
Djokovic gen Carlos Alkrez each advanced in singles, but women's
number one Egas Fiantec loss. Katie Laedeki win her thirteenth
(33:32):
career medal in the Olympic pool. Sim owned Bios took
the Olympic All Around goal and Gymnastics NFL Hall of
Fame game. The exhibition opener was tonight in Kanton, Ohio.
The Bears win twenty one seventeen over the Texans. Game
ended due to bad weather late third quarter. Titans wide
receiver DeAndre Hopkins will miss about four weeks with a
knee injury. The late game in Anaheim, as far as
(33:52):
Major League Baseball, went ten innings, Colorado with a two
run homer in the ninth to tie five to four. Rockies.
The final Angels out fielder Mike Trout out for the
year after another meniscus tear back to.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
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Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon live from the Tiraq dot Com studios. And
you've heard the big story today, Angel superstar Mike Trout
done for the season. He tried to rehab and come
back from his most recent injury about a week ago,
but it had to be cut short. He left the
(35:45):
game rehab game after a couple of innings with injury
and it was revealed today a tornminiscus.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
His twenty twenty four is over.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
And you know, we talked about this last week when
it looked like his rehab was done and now it's
it's kind of a way to really cement this that
here's another lost season for him, and I give a
lot of credit. Bill Shake into The La Times had
this on social media today. He's played a grand total
of forty one games in the second half of baseball
seasons the last four years. Right, forty one games he's
(36:17):
played in the last four years because he just can't.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Stay on the field.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
And is it a tough conversation if I can't believe
it it is at this point. This is four seasons
where Mike Trout has had his season cut short or
either hasn't really played. He's thirty three. His body is
breaking down. He's a bigger guy. I knew when he
was twenty four to twenty five. Look, he's a bigger kid.
When he gets to thirty, his body's gonna break down.
He plays, He plays the outfield with an abandon that
(36:43):
you need to He's not afraid to crash into walls.
It's how it goes. When he comes back at thirty three,
you want other four to five years to be an
MLB star. Hey, he hits well enough. Obviously he's got
to come back as a full time DH. The only
time I want to see him in the field. Again,
is if his final inning before he retires, he goes
out there, he plays center field one last time, and
(37:03):
then he comes out everything is great. He comes off
the field, that's really it, because he's got to stay
on the field.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
And while I'm not a doctor, at least I know that.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Okay, if you have a guy trouble staying healthy, he's
got lower body injuries. The less running he does, the
less stress the better. So if he's a full time
designated hitter, that's a lot less stressed than playing center
field every night the way he does. So if you
want to stay on the field at this point, he
kind of has to. I don't think it's a difficult conversation,
but if it is, if I'm the Angels, I say, listen,
this is how it's gotta be. We need your bat
(37:34):
in the lineup for one hundred and forty games a year,
and now you can add the next four or five
years of your career be really good ones instead of Hey,
every time you go out there, the Angels are gonna
hold their breath and you're gonna hold your breath. And
every time you run for a fly ball, something doesn't
happen to you. Don't slip, you don't run into the wall,
you don't overextend yourself and wind up with some kind
of soft tissue injury.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Like he's played his.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Last inning of center field, and it's got to be
that way if he's going to continue on his career.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, it's it's not a consultation, it's an edict like
this is it. And you saw the quotes from the
GM and everybody today, Hey, we expect them to be
back and you know, at the forefront of what our
activities and back to being among the greats and whatever else. Like, Yeah,
the thing that invisible ink is he will never see
(38:21):
the field again. The most you can have him maybe
you could steal an inning at first base once in
a while, no running, but he can still get stepped
on on the bag. So I mean, you got problems there,
but it's it's it's time. I mean, forty one games
four years, and you see the fact that when he
is still in the lineup, he's still got an ops
(38:43):
or around nine to fifty and an average of forty
six home runs on one hundred and six you know,
over a pro rated one hundred and sixty two game basis.
So it could still be an impact player at the plate,
So figure out how to leverage that into as many
games of availability as you can, as opposed to, hey,
let's roll the dice that this is the surgery that takes. Yeah,
it's just bad math at this point. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I mean if I thought for a second, hey, he
can do some rehab, sit out, come back, be strong
and play.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
All right, But you've had four lost.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Seasons at this point, right, You've had You're even having
a great season two and a half years ago when
he was forty and eighty in one hundred and nineteen games, right,
he was still at that kind of level forty home
runs in one hundred and nineteen games, like what Aaron
Judge is doing right now. But that's what's most important,
is to keep that bat in the lineup because he's
still going to be somebody that goes thirty to forty
(39:35):
home runs over one hundred RBIs hit somewhere between two
eighty and three hundred, and you gotta have that. And
when you're looking at it now, I don't think there's
any other way to look at it other than I
can be in the lineup and do this. It's not
exactly what I want because why I love playing. Look,
this is why he was the best player in baseball
for that five to seven year stretch with averaging nearly
(39:55):
a ten war every year, because of what he did
both hitting and in the field. But you simply can't
do the field anymore.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
It's like when.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Billy Bean went to go visit Scott Haddiberg right, and
Brad Pitt tells Chris Pratt, you're gonna be in Jurassic Park,
and Brad Pitt tells him, Scott, your catching days are over, right.
We want you to play first base, but I'm gonna
catch you on my armfields. Yeah, Scott, you're catching days
a row. You're playing first base. Now you can't throw anymore.
I like that's kind of the conversation it, Scott, And
hopefully it's that easy to have say, look, rest, come back,
do this and look without playing the field. Maybe he
(40:27):
gets back on the field a little bit sooner, right,
Maybe he's back in the lineup much sooner than Hey,
he's got to run the field.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Come back.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Maybe he's back in that lineup a lot earlier. And
everybody wins. The Angels win. They have money that's being
spent on a guy that's actually on the field and
not on the il Anthony Rendon and and baseball fans
win because Mike Trout's playing one hundred and forty game season.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Yeah, unfortunately Rendon has to catch the strays and all
of this too, because it's all tied together, right. They
made the big push, signed a couple of big deals
to the tune of several hundred million dollars, and it
didn't work. Didn't work. You saw what ended Pool Holz
and he goes back to Saint Louis or whatever else
you saw. Otani was there, fantastic run, a lot of
(41:12):
promotional giveaways and and all that it was. It was
a fun time had by all, and we saw the heroics.
Rendon couldn't stay on the field.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Exit out, bout of Fresca, Exit swollen do On The
Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon live
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