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Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best
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where Leon Dreux Seidel just wins Game four the Stanley
Cup Final in overtime. He's trying to make a pass
and it deflects off a Panthers defenseman skate and into
the back of the net and a series. It looked
(00:51):
like the Oilers were absolutely cooked as the Panthers were
up three to nothing after the first period. They tie
at three to three, They go ahead head with six
minutes left to go. The Panthers tie the game with
sixteen seconds left to go in regulation. You think, okay,
the Panthers are taking control of this. It's gonna be
three games to one. Then in overtime, Dry Cidle the
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runner up for Heart Trophy gives us this breaking free
is tri Suddles to the deck, Leon try Toddle this time,
this series?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
What is sport?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Oht winner of the playoffs, Final Star and the ten
five Florida four in over Time, now scratch my back
with a hacksaw Grandma.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Uh oilers work. I think a little bit of an.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Homage in over Time getting the fast laying Grandma, the
Bengo games, getting ready to roll.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
D to that, and we started, you know, talking about
the horror movies that we like in Possession and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh we could no speaking of the movie. We definitely
have to get to Spaceballs too. But ye look, you
know I said this like this, there's nothing you want
more from the Stanley Cup Final right now? Right you
have three games in overtime, incredible twists, you have two
goals in the final minute of regulation. And the game
that was a blowout was just as entertaining because the
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last period a half was how many fights are there
gonna be?
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Like four at a time. They couldn't even back where
the camera well was. They couldn't pan out far enough
to show you all the fights, not just one fight.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
We're getting them all the time. I don't know how
do I announce? It's like slap shot?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
What do we do?
Speaker 5 (02:32):
What are waiting for the goalies to charge each other?
But then you get dry title who's the star of stars?
I mean we've been talking about the heroics and the
final seconds of the playoffs from Tyrese Haliburton. This guy's
got four goals, five points in overtime. I love setting
new records, and this one where he's most insane of
all of it.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I mean, look, they had Gretzky and Messier and now
they got McDavid and dry Sitle. I mean, like, what
else do you want?
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I mean he was offside? You think every goal is
off side? From Edmonton?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Saw the puck crossing the line.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Maybe maybe the Kings are the third best team in
hockey this year, you know, losing with the Oilers. But
but look, but I say, you know, I said this
the last few nights, this is the best Stanley Cup
final of the last ten years.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Easy.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
But now I went back because you know me big
hockey fan, and I said this is going to go
down right now.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
I have I have no doubt, I.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Have no no question saying that this is going to
go down as one of the top five Stanley Cup
Finals of the last fifty years, right because I'm thinking
about the biggest Stanley Cup Finals of the last fifteen Okay.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Uh yeah, forget those Hawks titles.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Okay, no, no, no, here no, because here you go
is is I'll tell you that the only three that
I can say ahead of like there's been great Stanley
Cup finals, right sure, but the only three, the only
three I can say ahead of this. And you know
I'm telling the truth because I'm telling you that. You
know when I tell you this. But obviously, the Blackhawks
winning in twenty thirteen, incredibly emotional. Jeremy Ronick is crying
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while he's announcing the game. And for the Blackhawks win
one of the big heritage teams like that was such
a huge moment for the NHL. The Red Wings in
ninety seven, which really brought the NHL into its next
popular era because Detroit was hockey town for a long time,
and that's you know, feder Off and and and Isserman
and and and winning back to back and beating Lynn
(04:25):
Draws to win, you know, the Legion of Broom. When
they won like ninety seven, Red Wings, you credit them.
And you know they would play all the Russians on
the same all the time, right.
Speaker 6 (04:34):
And.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
And keep on going out and they would.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Play them all at once, right, they would play them
all at once, right, feder Off, Larryanoffs, Fatisa Off. I
mean they would play them all together. That ninety seven
Red Wings team really ushered in this the era of
hockey that it was the next ten years. But I
go back and really, I mean it's the one that
really brought Stanley Cup back from from everything, uh to
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a big moment, the Rangers breaking that nineteen forty curse
by beating the Canucks in seven games in nineteen ninety four, right,
And that was when And I say this because they
beat my guy, because there was no more exciting player
that I love more than anybody than Pablo Burrey. Like
he was my guy, right, like he was. He was
so incredible and some of the goals he would score,
the visions he would have. But that series was incredibly good.
(05:21):
It was emotional top to bottom. And I wanted the
Rangers to lose because I can't because I couldn't stand
them growing up, and then when I had to work
with them and their PR department wasn't very nice. I
gave me another reason and not like them. Right.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
So Pablo Burry was.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
An instrumental figure in my life because he helped fund
a lot of my extracurricular activities. Because the sales of
nineteen ninety ninety one Upper Deck roll.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Okay, good, okay, good, all right, you say extra Currier,
Pablo Burray was funding something.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
No, no, no, any of the you know, the dances
and you know the tuxes you'd have to rent and
all of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
The trading guard business for hockey cards was great back
in the day, no question about it. But I also
had a guy I worked with who was a huge
Ranger fan, and he he would have all the accounts
that we would be logging into from the different leagues
and whatever else and testing sites before the next fantasy game,
and every pass were always ninety four.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Oh yeah, I'm sure it was because that was a
big chant was always at raining.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
They would chant nineteen forty because it was the last
time they won the Stanley Cup and I didn't want
them to win. And Bury was my guy, like this
is incredibly and look, NHL ninety four is the big
hockey it's the greatest game of all times game I
would always I was always Burrey, I was never anybody else.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Right like Jeremy Ron that was no, No, I was ronic.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
It's not ronic. He's good. It's not me. It's ronic.
He's good.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Watch watching him make Gretzky's head bleed. Watch this right here,
hundred rader.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
No, he did, he did.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But those are the three best Stanley Cup final And
outside of I get your part, Hey, I'm partial to
the Hurricanes right in two thousand and six, and cam
Ward I'm pars and Justin Williams, who.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Was a hero for me before he was a hero
for you a la Fayette, he was my friend with
he was yours.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Uh wow, dusting off so Hamilton inspired by the Tonys,
are we?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
But yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Ninety four Rangers, ninety seven Red Wings, thirteen Blackhawks And
now you have this series right just because it's not
two big teams, not two popular teams in the in
the in the overall schemo. It's not the Blackhawks and
the Rangers that the Kings are. But this series four
games over time except for the fight one, and you
have you have games getting tied in the final minute
of regulation, like, this is giving you everything you could
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possibly want. As good as the NBA Finals have been
right now, this is even better. This is the highest
level of excitement that you could possibly want. And I know,
if you're Gary Bettman or the NHL, you're saying, the
only thing to make this better is if it was
the Rangers and the case, right or if you know,
if it was the Red Wings and and and and
the Avalanche, you know, or whatever that is. Uh, that's
the only way you can make it better. But but
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you have to deal with what you have right now.
And and look, like we said for the beginning of
the the NBA Playoffs, the NBA Finals, Oh it's Indiana,
Oklahoma City. Okay, like KD said, you don't like it,
don't watch, same thing. You don't like it, don't watch.
But you're missing you're missing hockey at the highest level.
And you're seeing an all time historical Stanley Cup Final.
And we're only four games in. We're four games in.
It's already this historical.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah no, no, we had the the finals.
Speaker 5 (08:19):
Ratings came back for the NBA last night and they
trumpeted that right at the one point five billion impressions
the finals have done through the first three games. All
of those things all great. I want to see what
the NHL puts out and how much they attribute to
the arrival of Travis Kelcey and Taylor swith to their
television viewing audience showing them Mike yeah, oh.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, yah, yeah, yeah, there's there's there's I think I
think NHL dot com is actually just showing Travis Kelcey
and Taylorsworth watching the game. Did they put up an
official shirt? Ooh, the official shirt of the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Here we are, Hey, they attended a game.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Get your official Game four Stanley Cup Final shirt.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And it's a picture of both of them with just
the TREAM logos on the back.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah, and where she's doing the my hard speeding a
mile a minute thing and he's, you know, sipping a
drink and and they're having a laugh.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
No, that was a good that was a good moment.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Capture.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Put it on a shirt, sell it, sell the hell
out of it.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Look and I get because it's fun watching her.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Like, I don't know what Taylor Swift's uh impact, I
don't know what her level of excitement in in hockey is.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I don't is she a big fan.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I know Travis Kelsey says he's a big black Hawks fan,
but I don't know what her level of excitement is.
It's something that's exact. But you can see her doing that,
and that's what happens when you watch. There is nothing
in sport, in sports like overtime in the NHL hockey,
nothing in just an event.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Well, you go to a live hockey game, you see
how fast it is, and you see you see the
hitting and how hard it is.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
But you look, you get that. You go to an
NFL game, you sit close, but it doesn't stop. No stop.
That's why players only play thirty time.
Speaker 5 (09:59):
But the NFL we get our breaks, we get our pauses,
we get our TV timeouts. Hockey's got a little of that,
but you got action till her to post. Yeah, and
if you sit in the three hundred levels, it's where
you're finding the most rabbit.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Of your fans.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Yeah. No, And and look, you can't see when you watch,
but there's is it down there? Can I see it somewhere?
Speaker 5 (10:18):
They got to bring back the lasers like they had
on Fox Man.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
But of all the trophy decals on the ice, okay.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Didn't Fox put like a glow around the pucks so
I could see it. Theydn't do that a long time ago.
Try to make it look like you can see it better.
But like just seeing Taylor Swift do that, and you
under I understand. I'm going this is someone who is
now getting hockey fever because over to try to explain
overtime in hockey, it's we see overtime in in the NFL.
We see overtime in the NBA. There's you know, obviously
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Major League Baseball goes to extra innings, but there is
nothing quite like the edge of your seat that you're
on because every dump in when the puck just goes
behind your net, you're get it out, get it out,
get it out, get it out?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
What?
Speaker 6 (10:59):
What?
Speaker 4 (10:59):
What panicking the defense?
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, but something could happen like That's what That's what
overtime is in the NHL. It could end at any second,
right clearly could.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
It end in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, for an eighty yard pass or seventy yard pass
something like that. It could end with a walk off
home running in Major League Baseball. But you get to
savor the circumstances much more.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
In these sports. You can get to savor Major League Baseball.
You still savor the NBA.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Because there's always time outs to build up your excitement
and talk about it. The NHL there's no time for it.
You have no time. This is just I'm just so nervous.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Do I want the game overright? Just get that's what
it's like to watch hockey in overtime, and.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
We keep playing hockey. We don't have shootouts. We don't
have ghost runners.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
No no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
I don't have Tony brothers. You have somebody for Scott's
so we got fresh brothers. We have fresh brothers. I'd
like to have fresh brothers right now.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I actually got it.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Brothers No, Doctor Joyce brothers, Jim Palmer, kirk Gowdi Al Michaels,
Doctor Joyce brothers.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
Doctor Joyce brothers had a good run fight tw fight
tw But Dick by Town just celebrated a birthday.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Who are all those who are all those people at
the game, And Dick my dog.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
To Troyce's brothers.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Just kept going, yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
We're here.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Was it was so great?
Speaker 1 (12:14):
It was how Michael's Jim kirk County, Troy's brother.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I have to find it.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
She's just sitting there.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
You know, you have no lines in the film, but
people are gonna quote you forever. Yeah, fine, that's good.
I'll just sit there, Dick Fight Town, all the people.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
But here we are mel Allen, Dick Edinburgh, Okay, Okay,
Tim McCarver, Yeah it was It was it Dick Enburg
with Tim McCarver, and then it was everybody else.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Okay, very good. I want to make sure that's what
that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Next level, right there, Buddy.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
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Speaker 4 (12:53):
Again, We're only through game four.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
It's gonna end up a top five all time Stanley
Cup Final series all time outside of Yeah, you are
partial to the Kings and they're winning. I understand bias here,
partialness out It's it's gonna be that thing. Uh.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Jason and Mike coming up next. Hey, we get back.
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Ooh ooh evil media.
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H No, he's let's see, Halliburn's actually more embarrassing than Politico.
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He sounds more.
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Vegas in a minute, get some long odds on the
NBA Finals, But more importantly, who's in the lead to
become the knicks new head.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Well, I mean that's the most important thing for you
right now.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm just I'm just picturing those odd Like you ever
see one of those movies where the odds on something
and they do something on Wall Street and the odds
change like every three seconds. They're just they're moving on
the flips up all the flipboarders. That's what I'm picturing
happening right now with the Knicks, like they're different names,
going to the top and coming down and go to
the top, coming down with us now the hot Line.
(16:35):
Longtime friend of the show. He's on Twitter at Todd Ferman.
Former odds maker at Caesar's check out the Bet the
Board podcast. See him on CBS. It is Todd Furman.
What's happening, Bud?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
I am doing well, gentlemen. I'm just disappointed that nicks
evn't narrowed their search to include pat Riley or Phil Jackson.
I feel both of those guys would be logical candidates
to take over his bench boss in Tom Thibodeau's absence.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
I'm see, I'm concerned about you after your tweet earlier tonight.
Game three was somehow embarrassing for the Oilers. Tonight is
somehow worse.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
Oh It's look, you may come away with a five
to four win, but that was still an embarrassing performance.
I mean, anyone who watched that game and goes, oh,
that was vintage e Oiler's hockey and they're more confident
that that team is going to go on to win
the Stanley Cup, I mean, is only kidding themselves. I
mean that's who I picked when the playoffs started. But
there's nothing that I saw in the two games in
Sunrise that leaves me burwing with confidence. And while this
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may be old man yelling at the clouds, that's not
the kind of hockey guys that I expect to see
in the Stanley Cup. It's undisciplined penalties, it's a ton
of power play opportunities. It's odd Man Russia's galore. If
it's a Wednesday night in November, the entertainment value is
through the roof. And while I know people are going
to tune in and maybe what they want to see,
as a hockey purist sorts, I find that game hard
to watch sometimes.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Wow, wow, wow that is Do you sound like you've
been drinking a whole gallon of hater raid over the
last few minutes with this game?
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (18:00):
Absolutely, no hater aid. But look, as a former goalie,
I'd like to see an occasional save or too. So
Lvin Pickard came in and made a timely save. And
when you watch that game unfold, it felt like a
soccer game where Edmonton was going to do everything they
could to try and defend. They got something on the
counter attacked and then naturally, it's not exactly a picasso
that ends up sneaking between Serga Vibroski's legs. It's a
(18:22):
one handed deflected shot that bounces in off Niko Mikola
but here we are best of three, essentially, with the
Oilers potentially having two games in their own building to
end a long standing drought of Canadian teams winning the
Stanley Cup.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Don it looks like a nice one timer in the
box score tomorrow?
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Yeah, apparently, like they always said. You know, it may
be a dribbler to the third baseman that he fumbles
at the hometown scorekeeper calls a hit, but it looks
a line drive in the box score, And I'm sure
that's the Oilers fan should feel about it. And there
will be absolutely no apologies when they make the twenty
five hundred plus mile trip home for Game six Saturday
night at about eight o'clock Eastern.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
All right, now, let's get into the NBA players, where
we get into the NBA Finals. They're gonna ask you
right now, who is the who is the favorite to
become the knicks next head coach? Who's the favorite? Right now?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
In Las Vegas? Doc Revery, stop, don't say Doc Rivers.
He's gonna say Doc Rivers that I'm gonna be mad,
All right? Who is it?
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Todd?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Who do you got?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I mean?
Speaker 7 (19:16):
Look, books are smart. They don't have those odds posted
it's a question of which current head coach the Knicks
will get refuted by or rebuke by over the next
twenty four to thirty six hours. Can I get on
that list? Yeah, you guys can make a list all
you want. I mean, I'm not sure who the Knicks
are going through. Uh, but I have to imagine there
are teams at the bottom of the totem pole that
would be more than happy to try and send their
(19:38):
their head coach to New York. And apparently that's the
direction we're trending. With everything that has gone on. This
is an unmitigated disaster, even by Nick standards. So kudos
to the Knicks from what I've been told. You know,
maybe Smith Brian Keith, head coach of the Washington Wizards,
makes logical sense to be the guy to get the
Knicks over the hump.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah. Or Grimace, you know everyone.
Speaker 7 (19:58):
Look, Grimace was mad to go for the New York Mets.
And so the bottom line is this, there's always a
chance that Grimmas could be on a short list. And
if you can get Whoopy Goldberg off the view. We
saw what she did in Eddie. It was nothing short
of transcended.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Now you are talking all right, we'll get back to
the NBA Finals in a minute. But there was a
story from the home state of Illinois that has new
Arm armed, you harmed.
Speaker 7 (20:21):
Do you really want me to go here with what
we've grown accustomed to on our home state and how
things work from a government tax and bureaucracy standpoint. For
that fifty cent tax that they're applying to every bet
I think one and a half cents of those fifty
cents will actually go towards this public transportation project in
the state of Illinois.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
It's like when they were taxing cigarettes, all going towards
education and roads.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Sure, yeah, exactly, that's what sports gambling was supposed to do.
But when you continue to tax sports betting over and
over and over again, it's that low stake sports better
that ends up suffering. And all you end up doing
as a result of this is steering betters into the
gray markets on offshore and working with their corner book makers. So,
like many decisions that are made on the state level
right now, when it comes to sports betting and legalization,
(21:04):
everything that we hope for and then some has been
butchered beyond any form of recognition, and somehow, some way, California,
you may legalize sports betting. By the time all of
us have great great great grandchildren will end up looking
like they were the geniuses waiting for all forty eight
other states to make a mistake. And I say forty
eight because I'm not sure Utah is ever getting sports
(21:25):
betting in any capacity. And there'll be another state too
that probably won't want it being a part of some
of those recreational pursuits, most likely Texas Vegas.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Insider Todd Furman our guest, Okay, I'm going to ask
you a question, and you're gonna give me one of
your favorite responses you've been giving us the last year's
on the show. Smith, I'll give you whatever odds you want.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
You ready, fire away, But Jan Soto to win an
LMVP is thirty to one. So I'm gonna say one
step ahead of you.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Now, I'm going to say I want to parlay the
United States winning the Gold Cup and winning the World Cup.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
I mean, given what we saw on against Turkey and Switzerland,
I'm not sure they could win the high school state
championship in the state of California right now with the
way things are trending, And I Look, I know people
came after me. They go, well, that's not going to
be the starting eleven when we get to the World
Cup last I checked. It's never a great sign when
you're so called face of American soccer and Christian Pulistic
decides he wants to take the summer off when there
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are no other competitive matches. So you know, maybe we
can thrust ourselves back into CONCA CAF qualifying and have
some of those confidence building wins against Antigua, Grenada and Dominicana,
a couple of countries or at least in the case
of Dominicana that I'm not sure I could even find
on a map if you offered me a handsome.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Sum so much to get to that in the coming
year for that tournament and all the curiosities about it,
considering Los Angeles and where we're at right now.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
I mean silver lining here, gentlemen, because we know Team
USA has a great history of beating Trinidad and Tobago
when matches that actually matter. We are a one to
nine favorite in the group stage opener against them on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, that is good to know.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Of course, the automatic bid helps in all this process too.
All right, back to the NBA Finals, Indiana six point
dogs and home game four thunder and their history of
bouncing back from losses.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
What do you make of the first three games of
this series.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
I mean, look, anytime we discount Indiana, they go out
there and exceed expectations, and I have to give them
a tremendous amount of credit because whether it's Tyreeth Halliburn
with a uncharacteristically great performance or Pascal Siakam stepping up,
it's TJ McConnell. I mean, it's Benedict Matharin pouring in
twenty five plus the in the winning effort. And I
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think what we've seen through three games is a little
bit of a coaching mismatch as well. Rick Carlisle is
pulling all of the right strings, and this is a
Pacers team who's never daunted, regardless of what that deficit
looks like or how poorly they start a game. You
look at the Dynamics for Game four tomorrow night in
Oklahoma City. Look, from a true number standpoint, they deserve
to be a five to five and a half six
point favorite. But it's also a team that is now
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zero to eight from an ATS standpoint in their eight
road playoff games so far, so clearly when they leave
the confines of the pay Course Center, they haven't been
able to live up to some of those lofty goals.
And while look Oklahoma City, winning and covering is not
exactly the same. You can win a game by one
through five, like they did against the Timber Owls where
they closed in game four two and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
One by two.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
I think, okay, see probably wins the game. But am
I running to the window to lay six or back
them on the money line at minus two thirty?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
This has been a hell of a series. And if
you had told me we'd be sitting here after three
games with the Pacers up two games to one, full disclosure,
I probably would have laughed at you guys.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
He's on Twitter at Todd Furman that has ad Todd
Ferman Bet the Board podcast CBS Todd as always, Buddy,
appreciate it, Man, enjoy the night.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
You know what, Smith, you have a little bit of pull.
So maybe we can enter Team USA in the Club
World Cup to get some competitive matches. And there's no
doubt we get out of the group stage or we
don't get out of the group stage.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
In my opinion, all right, very good.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Hey, whatever we need, we'll get it done. I know
some people, I'll make some calls.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
Sounds good, make a call. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Have Thanks God.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Now, you know, Todd brings up Haliburt. You talked about
Halliburton here and as we get ready for you know, look,
still the Pacers are underdogs for Game four, which that again,
that sounds like a trap to me. Uh, Tyree's Halliburton
just needs to be quiet, all right, because after what
he said last night that started to make the rounds
today and go viral.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I really I want to go, come on, dude.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So he's answering questions last night after the Pacers win
Game three and you know a lot of critics and
people didn't pick the Pacers to win in here they
are two games away from winning the NBA title, and
Halliburton made sure to tell everybody who was listening.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That, you know, hey, we don't really care.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
For these experts that haven't picked us to win the
NBA finals. Let's hear from Tyreese Halliburton.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
The commentary is always going to be what it is.
You know, most of the time, the talking heads on
the major platforms. I couldn't care less, honestly, Like, what
do they really know about basketball? The commentary is what
it is At this point, you know it doesn't matter.
You know we're here in the NBA Finals and two
wins away from an NBA championship. So you just gotta
stay with it, put my head down and keep working
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and as a group, we just gotta keep learning from
our mistakes, seeing where we can get better and take it.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
A day of time.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
You need to just be quiet for two reasons. One,
no one's saying they don't belong no one. It's simply
the other team is getting picked in a series like
I love how that teams have gone. Oh there, we
get picked to win this year. Well, we got to
pick one of two teams. And yeah, so far in
the playoffs, you've played the best team in the Eastern Conference.
More people are gonna pick the Cavs. You played the Knicks.
The Knicks are the most popular team that we're in
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the playoffs. Yeah, people are gonna pick the next Now
you play in the Thunder Thunder the best team in
the NBA, people are going to pick them. Okay, no
one's saying you don't belong. It's ridiculous. I can't believe
you're no so understand that. But the second part of
it is, this is why I want them to just
stop talking, because the Pacers are feeding off of this disrespect.
Whatever it is they're making up the overrated they are
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feeding off of this right. And and that's a great thing. Right,
it's a great thing. Is whatever.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
You need to use his motivation to try to win.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
I get it, man, But don't sit here and and
and say, oh, we're being stupid and and and and
and we're we're saying, we're saying awful things and and
I'm calling you out on it.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
When you're feeding off of this right, you are fit.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
I don't know that the Pacers would still be in
the playoffs if they didn't use this motivation of oh,
no one's picking us, because clearly Halliburton's a guy that
needs the motivation if no one voted him overrated. Seriously,
I don't know the Pacers are still in the playoffs
because I don't know that he plays at a high
level enough to have the Pacers where they are. Clearly
he can do it, but he's using that as motivation,
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And would he be the same guy, because clearly I
see games where boy, he doesn't look motivated in that game.
Oh hey, Tyres, we're letting your dad come back to
the games. Ah'm wanna have my best game ever now,
like like he's a little leaguer. Oh Dad's coming to
the game. Now, I'm gonna play great. Like don't don't
sit here and say, oh, hey, we're using you as
motivation and then say you're ridiculous for saying what you're
saying in the distress. What you should be saying is
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thank you, thank you to everybody who has said we
couldn't win because we are using that as motivation that
if I would, I would, I would buy and I'd
be okay with But this whole hey, I want to
shake my finger at you and say, you don't know
what you're talking about. Stop, man, You need this as fuel.
If you didn't have this fuel, you wouldn't be here
in the NBA Finals, right, which is about something to
say about being motivated and being a professional during every
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night during the regular season and wanting to ruin in
the playoffs. You need this fuel, you're using it. Just
thank us for it. Just thank me, thank you, thank
everybody else for it, instead of saying, oh, yeah, you
guys don't know what you're doing. We don't pay attention,
You're just noise. No clearly, it's outside noise you pay
attention to and you feed off of because it's why
you are where you are.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
SVP apologized. I think he's waiting for people to stand
in line like reception. I'm to give him an envelope
full of cash. Hey, good luck on your future.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
As if he apologizers, he's on the show with him,
So what else is he gonna say, Hey, I had
it wrong. Of course he's gonna say that. What are
you gonna say? Hey, sorry, man, I still think you stink.
I think you need about what's gonna.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
Be Haliburton polistic and that rank all of that to say,
you know, for Halliburton in these comments, he's still doing
the you're all a bunch of idiots and now I
can't wait to prove you wrong. So he's still kind
of going and feeding into that that that fire. In
the Knick series, they were a slight underdog, almost a
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coin flip. When it's all said, none about forty six
forty seven percent off the implied odds with their plus
one ten plus one point fifteen odds that.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
Were out there.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
So yeah, maybe you can get a little bit of
noise there. Whatever you again you need from motivation, have
at it. But it's a it's a bit chirpy, all right,
and saying that you don't know what you're talking about.
There's an awful lot of x NBA players that you're
now lumping into that that are part of the media.
So that's not gonna win you any favors when you
have another no show game and aren't dotting the the
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in the fourth quarter as as he's done brilliantly a
few times.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
And then there's a.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Couple of games where you need a little bit more, right,
it's fine to to fill up the score sheet, but
you need more aggression, uh, and more activity early in games.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
But but for Haliburton, yeah, he's.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Now enjoying his celebrity, right, coming off of selling overrating
his shirts and whatever else whatever his percentage is off.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I'm sorry, you go to give that money back because
people are upset calling you over right, and give that
money back now? Oh no, no, you're going to keep
that money.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
You know, this is his way. Look, man, he's doing
a full work, Jason, So now he's got to stop.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Of course I am, but that that's irrelevant now, it's
it's really not, though it feeds into the larger I
wouldn't be saying about this if he didn't want to
stand up and shake it and shake his finger at
all of us going out.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Dare you out there? You come on? Man, the logical
report retort.
Speaker 5 (30:53):
But from every reporter it's just say, you know, it's
math right, the odds and you being an under and
people going along with you know, favorites.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
It's Math. Exit out bout a Fresca exit swollen Dome.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon,
Time out to find out what's trend to get in
the wide world of sports and Monsie milanial spots see
what he got for us.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Well, no NBA today, fellas as.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Game four will be tomorrow Friday at eight thirty Eastern
from Indiana, as the Pacers lead the series two to
one against the thunder. We did have an awesome NHL
game though it went to overtime and it was a
comeback win for the Oilers. Edmonton was down three goals
in the second period because the Panthers scored three goals
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in the first one.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
Then they tied the game in the second period.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
In the third period, they took the lead and the
Panthers tied the game with nineteen seconds in regulation to
force overtime.
Speaker 8 (31:50):
Leon Drysidele hits the game winner in overtime.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
This is his second overtime goal against the Panthers and
he has set the record for the most overtime goals
in a postseason in NHL history with four.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
So he.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
So now this series in the Stanley Cup Final is
tied at two a piece.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
A little NFL news for you. Law enforcement in Miami
Dade County. I know Justin wanted me.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
To mention this is looking to arrest former NFL wide
receiver Antonio Brown on a charge of attempted murder. According
to a warrant reviewed by The Washington Post, there was
a video circulating not long ago.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Of him at a boxing event in Miami. That's what
this is regarding.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
He had come out after that video and said that
they try to jump him and steal his jewelry or
something like that, and then shots were fired. He wasn't
arrested that night, is what he said. After he spoke
about it, but apparently that's what this is based on.
More details I'm sure will come as time goes. In baseball, Yes,
the Mets have the best record in baseball today, winning
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for a six game in a row. They defeated the
Nationals stay four to three. The Yankees took down the
Royals after a rain delay, it was one zero. The
final score in the Cubs as the Pirates three to
two in the NBA, and other news when it comes
to Kevin Durant is that ESPN is saying that they
really do want to move him. The Suns and Kevin
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Durant the deal is likely to be done, to be
done sooner rather than later.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Back to you guys, thanks a bunch of monster Jason
Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Coming up, we have the latest on what has become
an extremely shocking story out of the NFL over the
last couple of hours.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 1 (33:45):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
And you know, there is a big developing story today
involving former NFL superstar Antonio Brown. And now that the
details have really kind of coalesced over the last few minutes,
it's like ESPN's got a big report on this. About
twenty minutes ago, Antonio Brown is wanted by police on
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an attempted murder charge in Miami Dade County. Now, if
you remember this, this is something that happened about a
month ago. There was a big fracas at a celebrity
boxing event in Miami that Brown was supposedly detained by
the police but let go following their investigation.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
I was a small start.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Look, there's a story about involving Antonio Brown that that
you go, what is going on with like every three months?
Speaker 5 (34:31):
I feel, you know, not to mention all the extra
curriculars he gets involved in on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Yeah, I mean, and it's it's a it's a it's
been a thing, right, He's become that that guy where boy,
what what is what is actually going on with him?
And it's been years for this now, but now it's
gotten to a point where again he's wanted by police
on an attempted murder charge because Now, according to reports,
he allegedly punched a guy at this celebrity boxing event,
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grabbed us a security guards gun, fired two shots as
he ran towards the guy, with which it grazed his neck. Now,
this just happened after just after midnight, back in the
middle of May, again at a celebrity boxing event. Now
Antonio Brown was detained by police. He said, I was
reret They talked to me, they'd let me go that night.
But now it's gotten a little bit more serious. Washington
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Post reporting this. He is going to now be sought
for an attempted murder charge. Police are going to find
him again grabbing a security guard's gun, firing two shots
as he ran towards the guy.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
He has not turned himself in.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
He has said when this happened, you know, a month
or so ago, it was self defense and he was
defending himself.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
But this is where the story is right now.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
And you know, I think about Antonio Brown and I
go back to and this is where I feel. Look, obviously,
now you're talking about attempted murder and shooting somebody. It's
it's in the early two thousands, the NFL had, unfortunately
too many stories like this right with athletes with guns
and guys running afoul of the law and where they're
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at and what happened to him, Tank Williams, pac Man Jones,
the late Chris Henry, where where we had stories like this,
where these are guys that that found themselves out of
the game and got in trouble all the time. Every
few months there was a story, right said a pac
Man Jones story the other day for a dui, and
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you know that was that was how you know how
it was? And there was I mean the early two
thousands to the NFL was like this, and now the
NFL there's not many, which is good obviously. But I
see this story from Antonio Brown and I just shake
my head and I go, this is a guy that
had everything and continues to be his own worst enemy. Right,
There's not been one story where I could say, well,
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Antonio Brown did this, but I could see this side
of it.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You go, you're going back to not paying a chef.
You're going back to a guy delivering a package to
his house. You're going back to him Tom Brady saying
come stay at my house. And now I hate Tom
Brady for all of this. He quits on his team
in the middle of a game. Like everything he's ever done,
he is his own worst enemy. And and you hope
at some point that someone's able to say, hey, dude,
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let me get through to you. Okay, you have you
have given away your NFL career. Don't give your life
away at the same time, right, But that's not been
something that has happened with him. And here we are
now this is attempted murder. This is this is not
knucklehead somebody do. This is attempted murder. And and for
Antonio Brown again, I don't know how this is gonna end.
I don't know where this is gonna go. I don't
know what kind of charge he's gonna face, what's gonna
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wind up happening with him. But but this is this
is where he's at the point where he has always been,
someone who has been his own worst enemy. And my
whole time the Antonio Brown's career has unfolded with all
the things that happened to because guy was as talented
as he could be, right but found his way out
of Pittsburgh, found his way out of out of uh
Oakland with the Raiders. It's I've always thought if he
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could just have the right people around him that could
that that could tell him, hey, dude, you are on
a really bad path and and this is the way
things you need to make changes so it doesn't get
really really bad for it, I don't know that it
gets worse and attempted murder. Like I always thought that
he needed people that could tell him that. And either
he didn't have people, he didn't have the right people,
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he had the wrong people involved. But that was always
my thought with Antonio Brown as a man, he needs
someone that can say, listen to me, and I can
help you not get down such a slippery slope.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
You can't get away from it.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Well, but that's the thing, right is you then have
to listen right then talk about any number of issues
that people may be experiencing until you're ready to get
help and acknowledge that you need help guidance whatever it is,
your financials, your weight, your your job, searching and showing
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up for work is an issue for some people, whatever
the thing is, until you acknowledge it and start moving
towards it. Answer Nil Brown's a guy that also in
that era we talk about big hits and affects long term,
whether it's this is the guy he was, and he
just needed some guidance and people to tell him no
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versus do we have effects of big hits? Right, Berfect's
name always comes up associated with Antonio Brown laying him
out all those years ago, and it's not excused all
the questions that you have in terms of what goes
through someone's mind when they get involved in some of
the things he has and some of the other players
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that you've named, and in society as a whole, as
you sit and read your local or watch your local news,
as people get through this one that the guy that
he actually was identified was a guy that knew him
for a couple of years. And the reason he went
back is that he came back with the gun. According
to this individual, after the fight had already been dissipated,
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so had the chance to walk away, had it broken
up right by the account that's out here. So now
we have this this search for answers and allegations of
an attempted murder. But yeah, for Antonio Brown, it's just
been a laundry list. It's another another chapter in a
very troubled story.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
He said, so many chances, and that's the thing is
that he said so many chances, Hey, do the right thing,
turn yourself around here, stay in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Teams kept Hey, we'll take a shot bring him in
playing football, because what do we always wonder? If being
away from the game isn't more detrimental then you know
when we talk about suspension, should they still be allowed
to be around the team?
Speaker 6 (40:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Just so it keeps them on path and in focus. Again.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
We'll have more of this developing Antonio Brown's story as
more details come to light. But coming up next we
get back into a big story out of the NBA,
and clearly I could be the nixt GM and things
will be going better than.
Speaker 4 (40:58):
They are right now. He's in the mic. Fox