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October 9, 2024 39 mins

Jason and Mike debate if Dave Roberts job as Dodgers manager is on the line tomorrow night in Game 4. Is Dodgers/Padres the best rivalry in sports right now? Plus, a different take on Robert Saleh getting fired!

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Speaker 1 (00:50):
The baseball playoffs. The day and night that was It
began with Grimace getting on the train, ended with the
Padres beating the Dodgers. But look, today was a really
big day in the NFL. The first head coach of
the season gets fired and is Robert sala And and
the Jets are now wondering what is next? Did Aaron
Rodgers get Robert Sala fired all these different things. But

(01:13):
let me give you a little bit of a different
take on something, right, because what what have I said
all night? What have I said for months? Look? Sala
is a glorified defensive coordinator, right. I was not surprised
he got fired today. I told you last night. Next
Monday is high new Yeah, that's it, right, that was inevitable.
It was gonna be another week, and it came early, right,
high noon came early for Robert solo. Question is why

(01:35):
did it take an extra twenty four hours because they
got back in from London and then he you know,
he sat on it Monday night and then went and
fired him this morning. So you know they got you
gotta have time to talk to Aaron Rodgers, I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
And congratulations on all your yardage and all of those things.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Boy sixty thousand and you threw three picks. So I
believe he hit a new milestone in the pigs. I mean,
he's not a great head coach, he's a glorified defensive coordinator,
and all the other things that I have laid out
throughout the course of the night. He's not the same
guy in the field when they're winning than when they're losing.
They keep making the same mistakes penalties they've been making
for three years. They still can't stop. There's not a

(02:15):
lot of accountability all the different things. I've told you
what's going on with the Jets the last few years.
But let me tell you how one the image that's
gonna stand for the Robert Sala Aaron Rodgers era really
takes you inside why Robert Sala got fired. Okay, now
when I say to you the Sala Aaron Rodgers, what
are you gonna think of? The bad hug? Right, the

(02:36):
awkward hug where Rogers throws for the touchdown and he
comes off the field and it looks like so he's
gonna go in for hug and Sala goes to hug him,
and Rogers pushes him and says something that at the
time we didn't know what it was. It was like, oh,
salom mad when they got the lead against against the Patriots,
it was whoa is he? Mad?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Is he? Now?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
We tried to read his lips and try to look
at everything. Right, nice game, pretty boy. It had to
be a second spinner. So and we wondered what was it?
What was it? And what did Aaron Rodgers say after
the game. Well, you know, Robert's always talking about, you know,
get us a two score lead and the defense will
take care of it, right it. So I hit him.
So I hit him, and I said to score lead,

(03:16):
and I go, okay, God, that's a pretty cool thing.
Him going, hey to score lead. And after he says it, okay,
and you blow it off. Right, here's Aaron Rodgers coming
off the field after a touchdown to score lead. Oh,
kind of cool. You telling me about a two score lead.
Now think about that now, after Aaron ra after Aaron
Rodgers and after Robert Sala was fired. Okay, think about this.

(03:39):
Now you wanted Rogers fire. I was gonna say, no,
I was gonna say, think about this after Aaron Rodgers
fired Robert. Think about this. Now, here's Rogers coming off
the field and instead of a celebratory mode, salaka, and
he pushes him and says to score lead. Like what
do you always say? Here's your two score lead? Right?

(04:02):
That's now what it seems like. Instead of Rogers doing
a hey blank to score lead, Okay, this is a
hey to score lead. You always preach to score lead
and your defense is gonna close it out. Here's your
two score lead. So you could tell right there there
you know what I see there is there's a bit
of a boy. Sala still talks up everything and pushes

(04:23):
everything through the defense. Right, because when you have Aaron
Rodgers and your message to the team is always two
score lead and our defense is gonna close. Our defense
is so good. So you know how much he likely
talks up the defense and how do this and our
and rightfully so because the defense is really really good
and that's what he knows. Right, But how long? But

(04:43):
here's the thing you hired. You brought in a Hall
of Fame quarterback to come run the offense. Man. And
shouldn't the message be, hey, man, we're gonna go through
the Hey, give the ball to our offense. Shouldn't that
be Robert Sala's message our defense, you guys are gonna
get it done. Get the ball back to our off defense, right,
shouldn't that be the message? But instead it's, hey, you
guys do this and our defense my preferred side of

(05:06):
the ball. They're gonna get it My favorites are gonna
get it done. Offense kind of do your thing, but
defense get it done. When it should have been the
other way, when it should have been, Hey, we brought
this guy in here for a reason. He is unbelievable.
Get the ball back for Aaron Rodgers. We're always going
to win. And the defense, look, they understand, they understand
it that Rodgers has come in to be that guy

(05:26):
on this team and he's that kind of icon. No
one on the defense is gonna go, oh me. He says, yeah,
get the ball to Aaron Rodgers. That hells he's saying
that for now. This is not like get the ball
to Zach Wilson. This is get the ball to Aaron
Rodgers and we're gonna win. Everybody understands that. But here's
Sala still saying, let's default to the defense. That you know,
two score lead, default to the defense, and Rogers pushes him,

(05:48):
here's your two score lead, mister defense. So I see
that now, while that play stands for the awkwardness of
the whole era with with Rodgers and Sala, but you
think about what went around that and that, and that's
my takeaway is, yeah, you can see glorified defensive coordinator
continuing to sell that message on the defense, Aaron Rodgers
saying we're going to win these games. We're the offense.

(06:10):
So you can tell right there that the disconnect of
how the team was run was eventually going to end
up with Robert sallagetting.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Well, that divisiveness has been obvious in all the pressers,
and that was that moment on the field, And I
can only imagine what the conversations were, full team meetings,
raw ra sessions, whatever to where the offense, particularly Rogers,
was brought in as the hired gun to save things right,
to fix things. Now, it's funny that the stat comes

(06:38):
out immediately after the game that they've scored as many
points in five weeks as they did with Zach Wilson
a year ago. So that doesn't make Rogers, doesn't really
put him in a power position, at least from the
statistics side, or absolve him of any part of this
crime on football. No.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
But however, but if you can position it to be
it's not my fault, well, it's this fault and maybe
something can come in and fix it. Well, okay, al no,
but that's got more cachet with the Jets Aaron Rodgers
or Robert Sala whose record is thirty and seventy five well,
but that's the point is that you know you brought
him in to fix it.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
You only got four and a half snaps last year,
so this year was the Okay, Robert Sala, You're going
to get your time with Aaron Rodgers. Let's see if
this can both sides of the ball can coexist and
push things forward. Other than a glorified night against what
is widely acknowledged as a lackluster, slash poor New England

(07:37):
Patriots quad, one good fourth quarter against the Titans and
one good game against the so otherwise, it's a lot
of bad football, a lot of bad penalties on both
sides of the ball, pre snap penalties and communication issues,
the inability to get the plays in that all comes
from the head coach, right you practice, you know you
play how you practice, and if all of those things

(07:59):
are part of the equation, that means they didn't get
ironed out. And you can't pin that on the quarterback.
As much as you would hope your forty year old
leader in the in the clubhouse, right in the locker
room should be able to help, you know, assuage some
of those things and and kind of smooth them over.
Clearly did not happen, and their relationship was not one

(08:20):
where that was ever going to happen. No, it was
never sing get to this point now. Rogers was the
only one that tried to smooth it over. We have
a great relationship.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
We tried did a good job, but were trying to
drive draw a drive a wedge between me and Robert
and all this stuff happening. Now, is there a little
bit of games with ship going on? They're going on,
You're not doing anything. But at the same time, he
was the only one that was talking about how great
things were and things were okay in front of the
microph You get fights behind the scenes, right, No, but

(08:51):
I didn't hear once from one thing from Saula about this.
The only things that in the in the in front
of the microphone with Robert Sala stands out with the
two times he disagreed with Adam Rodgers, the inexcused absence
for the trip to Egypt, and oh, we have cadence problems,
so he's caen. He's been calling the same cadence for
twenty years. Were talking about we have cadence problems, but

(09:12):
there was no real culpability for it. And the couple
of times when you want to publicly clash with your quarterback,
that's never gonna go well for you. So you think
about the relationship and when you think about that moment
with with Rogers and the pushy Now, now your beloved
defense can go to work. Now when you had me
come in to be this great offensive quarterback?

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Is that.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Solid now in front of the in front of the microphone,
in front, in front of everybody, has never talked glowingly
about the offense like he talks about the defense every week.
For Hey, Rogers, he's one of the best. He's a
Hall of Famer for a reason. In this Yeah, we
gotta get Garrett Wilscotte, but the defense. Hey, I'm gonna
give you everything. It's like Belichick when you talk to

(09:56):
him on Fridays versus when you talked to him on Tuesdays,
when you talked to about Tuesdays. Bill Belichick wins anything
but Fridays. Hey, I'm gonna tell you about how great
the long snapper the other team is. Like I never
got a sense in hearing Robert Sala talk the last
couple of years about how in on the offense he was.
He was always really in on the defense and would
give you great quotes about certain players what they need

(10:17):
to do, and guys he pushed for big money. Who's
the last guy he pushed for big money on the offense, Right,
He's not pushed for anybody for big money on the offense.
But Quinn Williams, we got to pay him. We gotta
pay these guys. He's always pushed for that. So this
is this is it almost seems inevitable that you get
to that point and for him to never embrace the
offensive side of the ball, that's really his undoing.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Jamie Erdle had the report on Sunday before the game
started that hey, one thing Robert sala is doing differently
this year is he has to be in on the
quarterback meetings. So you understand that. You know, now I
have the big room and Aaron Rodgers is there, and
I'm saying this is now three years and you're just
going into the quarterback meeting you I mean, I mean,
I mean, you're just going to the quarterback meetings now. Look,

(11:02):
because that's something that should have been happening a long time.
But what did I say? How much do you think
he has to do with with offensive input other than
this is what I want. Let's do this, Let's do this.
His offense was predictable, and that's on him, but he
never really gave me the impression that, hey, I know
how important the offensive side of the ball is, and

(11:22):
I am all in on the offensive side and doing
everything I need to put all our players in a
position to succeed. Instead, it's we want to run the
ball early and open up the passing game. Okay, you
can't do it that way. Rogers even said, hey can
sometimes you got to throw the ball first and then
you open up the running. You can't just do it.
You can't be predictable every single week, and that's why
the Jets get down fourteen points. So this is when

(11:43):
you talk about a guy always a glorified defensive quarter.
He doesn't understand the other side of the football. It
doesn't always need to be that, hey, I need to
become a wizard on offense. You can say I'm going
to leave the offense to somebody else, but you still
have to see the game through a different lens. When
a guy who's a DC always sees the game through
a defensive lens, that's not going to help. You're always

(12:06):
going to default do you think the defense can do
things it shouldn't. You're not going to put the offense
in the right position to succeed. You're gonna see the
game through a defensive lens. It's like when I see
a football team in a forty eight to forty seven game,
right that goes to overtime in college football, and they
talk to the coach who is a defensive coordinator, who's
the head coach? They go, did you ever think about
going for two in overtime? And the coach is no,

(12:27):
because I thought we'd stop them. Okay, you have it.
They've scored six touchdowns in a row. What could possibly
make you think you're gonna stop them? When they scored
six touchdowns in a row? I mean, what do you
think I'm gonna stop them? That's just stupid. That's just
because I'm a defensive guy. I think the defense is
going to make a play. You have to understand that. Okay,
it's the other side of the ball that needs to

(12:48):
make this. You can't just you can't just default to
I thought we're going to stop them. And I think
Salad too much defaulted to the defense and didn't spend
enough time not knowing the offense, but putting the offense
in a position to succeed with his coaches with the
right scheme. And that's his undoing, because if he was
more involved with that, then it might have been different

(13:08):
for him. But when when you see the offense in
three and a half years and it's no blank and good,
of course he's gonna get fired.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah, it's suck again. It's an inevitable move. It was
a matter of is it this week?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (13:21):
You wait until after Buffalo, then you get a game
with Pittsburgh. You don't have a bye week for six
more games. Right, it's mid November, late November, actually, before
you actually get your bye week.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
They would love that bye week right now, I'll tell
you no.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
But that's just it.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Right, Minnesota's getting the bye week coming out of the
England game. Jets get right back to work. Oh and
here's Buffalo. Here's the battle with your division lead. Right
with Miami and New England flailing. Maybe they'll battle to
another fifteen to ten game down the road. But you
have right back on the horse against a top notch

(13:58):
opponent in theory, and Buffer has its warts, no question
about it. And it's it's a gettable game where where
Buffalo's offense is right now with the receiving corps and
and everything and missing components in the back seven. But
nothing's going to be fixed in a day. Right, we're
getting rid of Robert Sala, there's still a lot of warts.

(14:18):
There's still a lot of problems that you got to
go and fix here. For for the Jets, you've got
to what should be all world running backs that you
can't get free. I mean, Brice Hall is relegated to
being just a guy. Brayln Allen who's looked good in spots,
can't get him going. Garrett Wilson, the ball's got to
come out one one thousand and two. Uh, it hit

(14:41):
him in the back, right, I mean, so like there's
still a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Oh he threw it before he turned around. Oh man,
tag you're it. So yeah, that's not going away.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
And part of that is Rogers and getting him comfortable
behind that offensive line, figuring out where he is physically
ment All of that comes together, and I think Sala
was banking on some of that that he was going
to continue to get grace because of you know, Rogers
just getting acclimated with this offense.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
Guess what. It's not the way this works. I'm telling you.
Just think about that whole thing with with with Robert Sala,
the moment with Rogers, his default to defense, and you
understand why it happened the way it did for him
and why it really was inevitable. He's locker rooms. I mean,
that's the biggest problem.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
It's like he's over here with these guys that have
When it was nice after that Patriots game, it was
a warm embrace. Otherwise, Hey, those guys over there, I
mean they got to get it together.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
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Speaker 4 (15:57):
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Speaker 2 (15:59):
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Speaker 1 (16:10):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon.
Frostberg is just jamming to this in the other room
after the Dodgers lost to the Podrace.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Is the only song on my iPod after that game.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
It's just on repeat. You just keep listening to it
over and over and over again and finally, let me
see your face.

Speaker 4 (16:33):
I still do that.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I still if I have a song I like, I'll
listen to it over and over again. Oh, i'd repeat.
If I'm in the car, I'll do that, Like I
did that the other day to High Enough by Damn Yankees.
Oh yeah, I'm like, yeah, I loved. I would listened
to it like four or five times in a row, like, yeah, okay, great,
listen to it. And unlike today when I drove in
and I listened to Back in the New York Groove
like six times in a row, and I was like, yeah,

(16:55):
it's funny because I cueued it up as we were
waiting to come on air, waiting for the odd couple
to finish their shift and for us to come into
the studio and get things popping. Had that.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
No, I've had those occasions where occasionally the song is
a are you okay kind of song?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Played this song thirty four times in a row here
when you and I were younger, and they had singles
which would come out, which was you get the one
song on a single and you would play just that
one song on the tape and the other side was whatever, crazy.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
Two or three remas. But they also do like two
or three random remixes. Here's the club Pringle.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
But you would get what Pringle ingle pringles either that
or we talk about Perceval Pringle the third later Paul Bear.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
So you should have you never not reached in a
pringle can and got your hand stuck.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
No, I've never gotten my handstuck in a Pringle can.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
I don't believe that.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Go ocause you know what I do. Like he was
tilted him to come out and eat him. Just du No,
they go down like, I know your hand never got stuck.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
You know, I know you're telling the truth, how because
your hand doesn't fit.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Just I used to get so mad at my grandfather
because you know, pringles, we have the whole thing, we're
all snacking on it. And he would do this. He
would reach in and grab like a stackle, like ten
at a time and eat him like like he takes pop.
Come on, eat him one at a time. I could
eat him. However, I want to go, Pop, that's you're
gonna go through the entire can of pringle. He would,

(18:19):
and he would eat them, and of course again for him,
and it would no, no, no, no, he wouldn't say that.
He would just eat him and the crumbs would fall
all over him, because you know, he played bite the
Pringles and he goes, ah, this is this is too
hard to eat this way? Yeah you think I told
you Pop, you can't, but don't eat him ten at
the time.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Just eat one.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
It's really good, Have another one, Have another one. That's
how you eat prinkles. No, I really want to care.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
Was he eating pringles when all those girls used to
call him? He would never tell you about him?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
That was yeah, Pop, Yeah, was looking out for you.
I don't know about that. I think he was just
doing the exact opposite of looking out for him.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
No, my s, I'm sorry. Were you gonna say something
about blocking?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
If there were cell phones, my social life would have
been a hell of a lot better When I was
in high school then when you had to wait, I'd go, oh,
anybody call Pop? Yeah? Who called? I forget who was it?
A guy or a girl? I don't know what do
you mean? You don't know. They called, they asked for you.
I said, you're not home, but who was it? I
didn't write it down? Why not? I didn't have any pen.
Don't don't, don't come at me with this, okay, Pop, okay?

(19:23):
And then like i'd then like four days later, I'd
go to school and this girl and like would say, oh, yeah,
I called you on said why didn't you call me back?
We talked about I called you on Saturday to see
if you wanted to do something on Saturday, and then
go you did, because yeah, I talked to your grandfather.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Pop, and then and then you make him that kid
handed out business cards at school and I said, here's
my works for.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
Rio that Saturday night, and Pop was hanging with him.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
No, my grandson always gets mad at me the way
he pringles. Watch this and you do the Pringle trick.
And so I mean, Pop, come on, help me out
a little bit here, Pop, help me out a little
bit an trick.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Who do you think told Jason Mason that trick?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
What is even a guy or a girl? I don't know.
I called they they called, They asked for you. You
can't was the voice. Okay, thanks Pop, I appreciate it
thanks a lot four days later, yet I called you
never called me. No, I would have called. I never
knew you called. Really, No, I didn't. Hello, Darkness smiled.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
I got him the reach around.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Whoa whoa, whoa whoa.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Why? Whoa whoa?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Whoa whoa whoa whoa. All right, we're gonna got some moves. Look,
we're gonna get back to sports here interference. Uh, look,
we spent a lot of time with baseball today and
incredible day. Today the Mets are one game away from
the NLCS, as are the Padres after they beat the Dodgers. Right.

(20:49):
I knew the Mets were gonna win today when I
saw the video of Grimace getting on the seven line
going out, No, that starts today, I said, we're winning today.
That's a Tuesday when Grimace gets on on the train
and is jumping up and they all around him, all
the Mets fans are going Grimace Grimas, guys, we're gonna

(21:10):
win tonight.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Now you can put that to any song you want. Now,
now you got Grimace in the club at a little
bit of the early.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Background to Bryce interviewed Bryce Harper after the game. Hey, Bryce,
you know what I knew you guys were gonna lose
today when Grimace got on the seven train and they're
all yelling, Graham's guy, what the hell kind of interview was?

Speaker 3 (21:26):
But it was still a game that had bad He
had with two runners on that is awful bad.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
This is the thing. The one thing about Bryce, harp
Roll says before you get to the potters of the Dodgers,
like his his maturity level and what he's done the
last year has been incredibly impressive. Right, He's a great
ambassador for baseball. He has lost a lot of the
the knee jerk reactions that has stopped him from from,
you know, whatever level he wants to get to. He
doesn't get thrown out of games anymore, doesn't argue balls
and strikes like he used to. But there are times,

(21:53):
and this is like the third or fourth that bat
of this series, and maybe maybe more the third or
fourth that bat combination of this series and last weekend
when the Mets had to play the Phillies and win
three out of four in the in the regular season,
where there's times when I see him come up in
a situation and I just know he's gonna swing at anything.
There's other times when I know, hey, all right, you

(22:14):
know Diaz is pitching, he's gonna he knows Diaz is
gonna be careful, he's not gonna go after stuff. But
there are still times when I know he's gonna go
after everything because he's in that here, he's in hero mode.
And Harper still gets to hero mode way too much,
and instead of waiting for it to come to him,
he goes after pitches out of like, look, Manaya comes

(22:34):
in and strike, and Manya strikes him out on three
off speed pitches and gets him to lunch after every
single one strike Harper. Harper still does that. He's still
he doesn't sit back enough and say, Okay, you're gonna
be really really careful with me, so I'm going to do this.
But Manaa goes after him, and which is the right
thing to do, because Harper's not going at home run
every bleeping time up. But for Harper, it's, hey, you

(22:56):
gotta know what to lay, You gotta know one to say.
Let's keep the line moving, right. They say this a lot.
You see this if you watch the Mets series. They go, hey,
it's a you know, Lindora has talked about this about
we just we just keep the line moving, do your
job and leave it for the next guy. Lear for
the next guy, and that shows the confidence you have
that the team has to each other. Where he's okay
with taking a walk, leaving it up to Vento's Ventos

(23:17):
is okay with a single, leaving it up to Nimo
and on down the line. But Harper still has those
moments of hero like I'm gonna get the big hit here,
and he winds up chasing pitches he shouldn't. He'll swing
it a curve in the dirt. He'll swing it a
slider that that's three feet outside because he's made up
his mind I'm gonna hit the crap out of this pitch.
That's the one thing he still does, and he does

(23:39):
that way too often.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
See just the way you described the the quotes by
your mets, I'm I'm reminded of the late great head Farmer.
It was always about get him on, get him over,
get him in, be patient at the plate. The old
walk is as good as a hit. Is not just
a mantra and something cute to scream as a little leaguer.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, look, it's like what is Billy Bean saying? Moneyball?
But you pay me to steal basis, No, I pay
it again on first, not to get thrown out at second, right, like,
just get on base, get on ba. But there's sometimes
where he does do that and and look what happens.
Look look how he keeps the rallies going. You had
two guys on and he and he gave up the

(24:16):
That was the game. That was the game, right there,
Mets with a two nothing, that was the game right there.
Now for the Padres and the Dodgers, right, this is this,
This is a series and a rivalry that is immature,
it's petty, and it's full of disrespect. Right we watched
the last couple of nights with everything that's going on
with Jerks and Profar, with Fernando to tease Junior even

(24:38):
tonight in to tea standing at the home plate for
like ten minutes after he hits a home run off
of Walker Bueller. Again, it's full of immaturity, pettiness, and disrespect.
Maddy Machado is at the head of it. The Dodgers
can't stand in. He can't stand the Dodgers. Things can
be that, Like I always say that Jets could be
a tire fire and do the right thing with Robert

(24:58):
Solid today, it petty, immature and full of disrespect and
still be the best rivalry in all the sports right now,
because there is nothing that tops the hatred, the excitement,
the emotion of Padres Dodgers. And yes, it's a it's
a Johnny Come Lately rivalry. In the last couple of years,
when the Padres decided, Hey, we're gonna go spend a
ton of money, and we have young players, and he

(25:19):
give to tease three hundred million dollars and we're gonna
get Machado and do all these things. Hey, we're the
little brother here. We're full of emotion. We want to
poke the bear. And the Dodgers have been all too long.
They've been a willing participant to come back at this.
Oh you think you're so great, will she will teach
you a lesson? And in just in two years, I
mean going back to twenty twenty two, this has become

(25:39):
the best rivalry. There's no other game I want to
watch more than the Padres and the Dodgers because it
just gives you that level of excitement. And when teams
don't like each other, that's even better. And you don't
know what you're gonna get. You don't know what a
what a home run is gonna bring, you don't know
what a great defensive play is gonna bring. It's really fun.
I got a little bit of that with the Mets
and the Braves and hate each other, watching Michael Harris

(26:01):
Junior try to do his thing in centerfield about don't
hit it to me and all that kind of stuff,
but not nearly to this level of what we see
with the Padres and the Dodgers. And it's awesome. And
it's more awesome for the Padres because what we talked
about last night, Max once he said it thank It's
like he listened to the show we said last night.
The Padres play this series against the Dodgers with all

(26:22):
kinds of emotion, with all kinds of getting under the
Dodger's skin, and they are successful at it, and they
are succeeding at it, and the Dodgers, in the middle
of trying to win a series, are detailing situations and
dealing with situations like Dave Roberts calling Major League Baseball
saying Manny Machado threw a ball at me, Jack Flaherty
yelling at Tatisse, yelling at Manny Machado hitting Fernando Tatist

(26:45):
Junior in the middle of the game. The Dodgers are
all caught up in this fight and they let the
Padres get under their skin. And when that's when that happens,
not only does does it is it bad for your
team because you're now fighting a couple of different battles
and you should be focused on the game. But that
other team that knows they're doing it is full of confidence.

(27:06):
And I am seeing a really confident Padres team. No
matter what goes on, no matter who is pitching for
the Dodgers, no matter what situation they're in, whether Otani
is up, whether it's Mookie Bets up, whatever it is,
they are. We are full with confidence right now. And
this whole situation, this whole rivalry is tilted the Padres
way right now because they know we are instigating and
getting under your skin. And it's it's a it's an

(27:27):
enforcer in the NHL that knows I can get under
the other team's skin, and their focus is on fighting me.
You're knocking me, you're giving me a big check. Meanwhile,
the ice is open for the rest of my team
to go down to score a goal. That's what's happening
right now with the Padres and the Dogs. Well it
works is also I mean on both sides.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
I mean, you got the We talked about the Dodgers
as the evil empire of this new era of Major
League Baseball, with the spending nearly a billion dollars, as
lovable as show Hee Otani is as marketable as he
is and everything that goes with it, and certain Dodgers
as well.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
But when you're at that point when you're you're.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Seen as all right, we can just outspend you and
get what we need to, Yeah, you become you know,
the other like the Yankees were all those years ago,
and then well the Yankees didn't win and they were
irrelevant for a lot of the last years, and it's
good to have them back in the mix because it's
better for baseball. But for the Dodger side, they're seen
as the super villain from a lot of the smaller market,

(28:24):
mid market teams and certainly San Diego up until the
last couple of years where the spending was finally on track.
You know, to at least fight you lose Sodo he
ends up there, But the guys you acquire guess what
here They are playing big roles for you as you
roll forward here in this series, and it's like picking

(28:44):
that fight, right, we have the Dodgers and the Padres.
This is the instance where you've got the Padres can
pick the fight with all of these little instances, right
with the fans and whatever else. The throwing of the
ball in the dugout, you know, potentially mortally wounding Dave Roberts,
and then the Dodgers go to respond, and you know

(29:06):
what they have, They have the big guy sitting at
the table, only this time it's several starting pitchers that
are just waving back at you, going we're ready for
the next game, are you right? And that's the trump card,
or at least on the surface going into tomorrow, that's
the concern right. Season's short rest, but ready to go.
But embracing the villainy, embracing the role. Yeah, petty childish.

(29:31):
I mean, there's a promo set it weeks ago. Pettiness
knows no tax bracket, and certainly Major League Baseball players
are in the highest tax bracket.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
And the petty.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Little things to get under the skin of the fans
and of the opposition, the more Dodgers players and Dave
Roberts talked about all that advantage Podgers.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Exit out about a Fresco exit Swalling down The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmon live from the Tirech dot
Com Studios. Time notw to find out what's trending in
the wide world works from the biggest Padre fan.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
I know that is right.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
You know it's not Tom. It's not Tom or I
think he pronounces it thomb, right, it's th h o M.
That's I think usually people pronounce that.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Tom of th h u m B.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Look it up old cartoon will Tom thumb Tom thumb? Yeah, yeah,
for sure. And you know what two ms in his name?

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Does he really m? Is it really his name?

Speaker 4 (30:28):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Is it a stage name? He's got two o's in
his name too? Oh oh, I don't know what?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Do you have?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
An F just like the grades you got in school?
So tell us what's trending.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Let's go. That is right.

Speaker 5 (30:43):
I went to a college that all you needed to
get in was a pulse. There you go, which is
kind of like Syracuse. Right, uh no, we beat you
in the n I t okay, okay, all right, hey anyway, Yeah,
the Padres, you mentioned them as the San Diego native.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, watching this six to five Padres over the dock.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
This was a Game three NLDS where Freinando Tatis hit
a two run home run. It was part of a
six run second inning. Walker Bueller takes the l to
the forehead. He gave up all those six runs in
the second, and Robert Swarez picks up the save for
San Diego. He was dealing in the end. There was
a ti Oscar Rnandez grand slam in the top of

(31:22):
the third that cut it to six ' five. We
didn't have any scoring after that. It was tons of
offense early on and then nothing down the stretch. And
as we look ahead to Game four, which is going
to be tomorrow in San Diego at about nine Eastern time,
it's going to be a bullpen game for Los Angeles.
I know that's going to make our executive producer, Justin
Frostbury very excited about that. I know that's what he

(31:44):
was hoping for. And the Padres are going to be
going with their starter and Dylan Cees, who is going
to be going in on not a whole lot of
rest as he was the starter in Game one, so
short rest for Cease, he will get the baseball tomorrow
as the Padre look to close this out and look
to knock out Los Angeles, keep in mind out of
the postseason for the second time in three years if

(32:06):
San Diego can do just that with they win tomorrow. Also,
the Mets are one went away from advancing after their
Game three NLDS win against the Philadelphia Phillies seven to
two the final score. So with that, that's going to
set up for a game for tomorrow in New York
just after five pm Eastern time, as the Mets look

(32:27):
to take care of business there and wrap up the series.
NHL regular season, the Utah Hockey Club yes their first
ever game as a franchise that new team name, five
to two. They pick up the win at home against
Mike Carmon's Chicago Blackhawks, the Panthers six, the Bruins four.
The Blues come up with a three to two win
against the Kraken. So just three regular season games to

(32:51):
start in game or day number one, I should say
of the NHL regular season. And then lastly, guys, the
Jets do away with head coach Robert Sala and this
after team owner Whatddy Johnson basically said that the move
was up to him and him alone, and according to
CBS head coach now ex head coach Robert Sala, was

(33:13):
actually considering firing offense coordinator Nathaniel Hackett before he himself
got the pink slip on Tuesday mornings. So nothing like
a Jason Mike, you know, if it's if it's my fault,
let me find somebody else and just throw them under
the bus. And he just couldn't quite get that done
in time before he got the X.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Thank you, Brian Frienly. The Jason Smith Show with Mike
Carmon Live from the tirerack dot Com Studios. Coming up next,
how the biggest story of the NFL could end up
being completely irrelevant? Wait what that's next? Right here Jason
and Mike Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon
live from the tire rack dot Com Studios. Really quick
on show, Hey Otani, before we get to the real
fallout of how Robert Salad getting fired could be irrelevant.
You were just looking at some Dave Roberts quotes following
the game tonight, talking about getting ready and Mike getting

(34:17):
ready for Game four. It's gonna be a bullpen game
for the Dodgers the day that Dave Roberts job is
in jeopardy, that his job is on the line. It's
a bullpen game. They spend a billion dollars on players,
yet it's up to his job is on the line
for a bullpen game. He had something pretty interesting about Otani.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, Bill Blaski his call him la times already up quote.
I think that at the moment is certainly not getting
too big for him. I think they're making some good pitches. Obviously,
he had a good game won and was kept somewhat
at bay pause. I think he's still in a good place.
He'll be ready to hit a mistake. That's not exactly

(34:54):
the vote of confidence you're looking for. No, not really, No,
like he's dialed in and you know he's ready.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
To get Yeah. I could have done without this quote.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
I'm Sorrybudy, No, I could. Dave Roberts sounds like he's
flailing with what what are we gonna do? What's gonna happen. Look,
I told you because of the series beginning of the series,
I told you, if Otani bats with players on base,
the Dodgers win the series. If Otani doesn't bat with
players on bas the Padres are gonna win. Game one.
He batted with runners on base, the Dodgers won. Last

(35:23):
two games, he is not batted with runners on base,
and the Dodgers lost both of those. And you even
got a home run from Mookie Bets. Yeah, yeah, one
at bat he was rookie bleeping.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
No, it was a home run that he knew, but
a bleep and got moved in front of his name with.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Until three and for forty four, if he hits with
runners on base, the Dodgers will win. But he's not
done that the last two games. It's and that's that's
been what it is. Again. The Dodgers are not in
a great place mentally for tomorrow. You know, hearing this
from Dave Roberts, I mean, his job is at stake
tomorrow and we're getting his ready to hit a mistake.
Whoa not he's ready to lead us. He's not there.
It's really really difficult, man, I'm telling you, I'm not

(35:58):
feeling good about the Dodgers a tight spot. Now, the
thing about the Robert sala getting fired that can make
this story that was the biggest story in sports today
completely irrelevant. Everywhere you looked, it was Robert sala Is
fired and Aaron Rodgers got him fired, and the Jets
stink and all this. Yeah, good names, No, I got it,
I get it. But here's the thing. The Jets did

(36:21):
a good thing today because they they look I told
you Robert sala is not a good head coach, been
telling you for a long time. However, it doesn't matter
who the coach is. If this is the version of
Aaron Rodgers that we're going to get. And after the
Patriots game, I thought, okay, he's getting it now. He
had a really good fourth quarter against the Titans, really
good game against New England, which is a pretty good defense.

(36:42):
He's got it. And now the last two weeks against
two pretty good defenses, he's looked awful. And if this
is the Rogers we're gonna get that, it doesn't matter.
And this is an Aaron Rodgers that is still skittish.
When he throws the football. He wants to throw it
really early either because he doesn't want to get hit,
or he can't throw the ball deep downfield, like one
of those things is what it is, because you can't

(37:05):
tell me that, Hey, he hasn't had enough time with
his teammates over the course of an entire summer and
spring to know where guys are going. If I have
to watch him throw a pass that he drops back
and takes a two step drop and throws it while
before the receiver turns around and the ball either falls
incomplete or a defensive back jumps on it, I can't
watch that anymore. But that's every play for the Jets now,

(37:27):
and there's only one reason why. Either he can't throw
deep and he can't get the zip on the ball
he needs to, or he's skittish because he doesn't want
to get hit because he's still thinking about his injury,
still thinking about that. I'm hopeful that it's going to
be a case of more reps, different offense, different scheme
will help him and we'll get close back to the

(37:48):
old Aaron Rodgers. But I'll tell you what, after five
weeks of seeing him throw the football early and be skittish,
I know we're going to get that man. And if
that's the case, it doesn't matter who's cut. Vince Lombardi
could be coaching the Jets and it's not going to matter.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Way to get Lombardi in party in his hat and
his long coat and a lot of yelling. Dan Lauria
played him on Broadway for a short period of time too.
But the big thing is are they going to change
play callers?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
They might?

Speaker 3 (38:14):
And if it's they might, and will they actually signal
in a play before there's five seconds left on the
play clot, you know, which has not helped your offensive line.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
But if Rogers gets to call the place, he'll be
able to call them right away and not have to
change them at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah, basically, does he not have to pretend to go
through Hackett anymore?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
It is really the question, can.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
I just do this here because we can get up
to the line and actually run this more professionally as
opposed to the scramble drill that we'd had to do.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Does he even need to be in the headset anymore?
Can't we just buy it? Can't you just just just
give me some ambient music, like he's in a dentist's
office and here, like I made it a song. By
the way, that's not even me. Oh yeah, but I
was not doing it. Look, once upon a time Jason
was on an adventure into a different road.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
It's me on me now, that's good.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
It's so good. I looped it. The amount of work
you put in on making this a thing, it was
a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I dig that.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
No, I did the most work you've done in like months.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
Dude, too much.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I know you don't have to go to the other
room and edit it master. A multi track is like,
what am I doing? Multi track? A multi track?

Speaker 3 (39:21):
And then I wanted to add a little bit of bass,
but I thought that was a bridge too far. Go
down with this no snare drums coming up next, telling.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Me, man, if this is the Aaron Rodgers, doesn't matter
who's coaching the team. Jet Shoe coming up next to
my buddy Ben mallor this is Fox
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