December 29, 2022 • 35 mins
Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier (Filling in for Jason Smith) discuss the future of Derek Carr with the Raiders, the latest within the NFL world, and the Jets wear the crown of shame!
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the question of could you go play for your rival?
As we talk about transfer portals and everybody getting angry
and possessive about players they're leaving. Ye of them find success,
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but when they find that other school doesn't make you
mad the old cartoon and I get mad. I get mad,
I get mad, and on social media, I get really mad.
That's what we do in this day and age, Arnie Spaniard,
but a lot of angry, well, some relieved Raider fans
because the news I think we expected from the last
couple of days finally came down as Josh Josh McDaniels
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and the Raider brass finally said, you know what, Derek
Carr is no longer quarterbacking here in operations shut down,
an old reference to the Derek Bell announcing that he
was an operation shut down because he was mad at
the Pirates um that he's done and that Jared Stiddon
will be the quarterback for the final two weeks. Now
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the Raiders still have, with a lot of help, the
opportunity to be a playoff team, which and they've obviously said,
well if we get there, great, Jared Stidham will be
our guy. So putting Derek Carr in mothballs. He's been
exiled from the squad. They had their conversations everything else,
and depending on where you are and then continuum, it's
either Derek Carr is not the problem, which look, it's
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it's all the how much of a percentage do you
want to give the quarterback? Right? Because the heavy where
is the head that wears the crown? Right, So it's
either the quarterback or coach and Mark Davis has gone
out of his way, at least through his minions in
the media, to give all the votes of confidence to
the regime he is now installed, which means when you
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have a quarterback that you can fix the glitch as
it were, and move on to the next phase. Now
what the answer is behind door number two, I don't know.
Is it Jared Stidham, Is it a draft pick? Is
it a quarterback that comes in in the NFL's version
of the transfer portal and free agency or a trade
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or whatever the case may be. But Derek Carr will
no longer be that guy. And look, I aged myself.
I I feel like I've aged a lot working alongside
Jason Smith. And sometimes you already span you're here on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, but I aged myself, and sometimes
you gotta pause and and remember how long guys have
been in the league. Derek Carr has been been at
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it for nine years. You don't have any playoff wins,
You've had a struggling season, and you could say, hey,
Waller was hurt, Renfro was hurt. For good stretches. Josh
Jacobs has been amazing. Be curious to see what they
do with him uh as they didn't give him his
fifth year pick up his option, right, So you've got
that going. Their offensive line has been awful and Derek
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Carr the last month has struggled mightily. But you pull
it all together. You've got nine years and you're trying
to figure out what the direction of your team maybe.
And we all know that people are talking behind the scenes,
all the laughable things about tampering or whatever else. Everybody
can beat it. There's phones, there's planes, there's zoom, there's
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all thinking. Guys aren't talking to each other and trying
to figure out next steps is asinine to me and
trying to regulate that. But we're in the silly season
in the NFL. So now it becomes the there's Derek
Carr in that short window. Is there a trade possibility
while he's got a no trade clause if he gets cut.
There's a lot of teams that in theory, will be
looking for quarterbacks, might be looking for some new coaches
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as well. So it's really an interesting time in the
a f C West that everybody thought was gonna be
a juggernaut. And I say everybody except maybe you and
me and about ten of our closest friends in the
media world, because I wasn't convinced Denver was gonna be
any good, and I certainly thought the Raiders were flukey
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the way they won last year, much like everybody's bemoaning
what's going on with Minnesota now that the law of
averages says those bounces don't go your way? Uh two
years in a row, and they certainly have not. So
now you're at this this crossroads and they've decided, Hey, Derek,
are thanks for a job done. Welcome to the front line.
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Jared's did him? Yeah, I mean, look, there's just a
couple of things on on Car. I mean, first of all,
who's gonna benefit most more from this? Is it gonna
be the Raiders moving on to another quarterback, or is
it gonna be Um Car going to the team of
his choice and deciding, you know, where's the great situation
for me? I still think the Matthew Stafford analogy is
a good one, is as much as Jason Cole thought
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it was horrible analogy there. Um, I still think Derek
Carr's a better quarterback than you have to give him
credit for. And you get to pick the perfect situation,
You get to go where you want, and you know,
you get to go ahead and see what's around you.
So I don't think it's a bad place for him.
I know he's disappointed and they're treating him like garbage,
told him not to be around the team. And I'm
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sure he's hurt, given nine years of his life over this.
But hey, it is a business. So well. But that's
the thing we all have to remember in all of this,
and and we try to be sensitive to the human
side of it. All right, Oh no, but no, I
do to a point. But Tom Brady, you can get
pushed out of the page riots anybody you know. But
but that, but that's the great point, right. Joe Montana
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ended up in a cheap Marcus Allen Rice. I've got
trading cards of him in Seattle Seahawks Dan Broncos uniforms,
right well, And in his case, he was Frankenstein with
a bunch of next and you had the opportunity to
take the number one guy who unfortunately got beat up
a bunch but it happened. But that's just it, right,
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if you want to continue your career in in every business,
right our business, longevity at any one place is a
rarity I'm blessed to do what I do here at Fox. Now,
you've been with the company a while here, Aren'tie? And
and we know we've got a lot of friends who've
you know, had the the wheel spin For all of
you out there, whatever job you in, you're in, and
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I know it's it's tenuous times and a lot of uncertainty,
and I wish you all the best wherever you're listening. However,
you're part of our extending family here at Fox Sports Radio.
But change is inevitable. And give me, give me a number.
How many quarterbacks you think? I get the quarterback at
one team for nine straight years? Um in the NFL?
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What you tell me? How many of them have nine
year careers? Light alone? Right? But but I think the
sub degree we've gotten spoiled. When you look at a Rogers,
you look at a Brady who eventually left team Drew Brees,
Guys like that, they're rare, really are to be able
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to play that long, right, because one of one of
the great examples, and he ends up playing in in
New England and you had, you know, some weirdness towards
the end of his group. But go to cam Newton,
he had a hell of a run for eight plus years.
You take that, Yet people look at it as I
didn't hold up long enough. What do you expect? Like,
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I know, it's we've got better supplements at science, better
medical rules. But when you're a guy like him who
was still carrying the ball a hundred times a year
and you put yourself out out on the floor for
a lot of hits, so you were doing half the
work of running back. Because think about the way the
running back position has evolved, aren'ty We got two or
three guys on most squads, like a guy like Derrick Henry.
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We were talking about his touch count being over three
hundred for this year. I mean, that's such an outlier.
You got a handful of guys that see two hundred
carries anymore. Last year we had eight guys hit a
thousand rushing yards in a season. To show you how
fractured it is, both from injury and expectations and workload usage,
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like it's just a different game. And for quarterbacks, yeah,
if you can get nine years somewhere, great, but that
is also a lot of time to show that you're
the guy right because he has it gotten it done right.
And I get that point, that's why I'll go. I'll
go to Miami if there's an opening there. I mean,
you've got two great receivers in Tyreek Hill and Waddle
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Um young coach, You've got some running game out there.
Hopefully you get a better defense. That's a great situation
for him. And it's not cold weather that that would
be even probably my top pick if if they got
past two. I'm not so sure they're gonna do that though. Yeah,
I think it goes down to and Arnie, just to
the larger quarterback point with car if he's got the
opportunity to choose, then that then that that is obviously
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number one if he's if he can be the top
guy in the list. I don't know how long that
list will be in terms of veteran players who will
truly be on the move who don't either get franchise
or re upped with their respective squads. But you know,
we talk about franchise quarterbacks. I think there's small left
franchise guys and there's big f franchise guys. Derek Carr
has been a franchise quarterback of the small left of
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everything else would have to go right to get you there.
Because he's not a guy who's dragging me along. Right,
Our guy Bucky Brooks do the show with him on
Sunday mornings. He always talks about trucks and trailers. Who's
the guy pulling? A guy like Mahomes, a guy that
could be that guy in Justin Herbert, a guy like
Joe Burrow, a lot of other guys. Jalen Hurts looks
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like he's that guy, but you know he's he a
hybrid to the trailer thing where he needs all those
things to work. Like Micah Parsons was talking about, you know,
the future will tell us because he was another guy
like to that. Many people had their questions about of
what he was gonna be. And he's had a fantastic
run thirteen and two. I hope he's healthy and gets
back in for the playoff run A little more nervous
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of Lane Johnson. You notice how much I care and
and love my offensive lineman, and when they're hurt, I
feel bad because everything crumbles from there. Go go look
at a lot of the teams that are bottom feeders.
What's the common denominator? Terrible offensive lines and a guy
running for his life. I mean, there's more to the Yeah.
I mean besides that though, um yeah, I mean, just
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just one thing on more there a car. I know
you want to go to a place where a good
offensive line. I understand that. But nine years Yeah, you
got a good run with the Raiders. Now it's time
to go ahead and do something for yourself. Pick a
team that's gonna go ahead and make you successful. Pick
a team that's got some good offensive weapons. Pick a
team where you're gonna be loved by the fan base.
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And you know what, if you're gonna be a backup,
he could be a backup with the Rams. If Baker
Mayfield ends up leaving that point, well, but that's the question.
You know, one of the Rams is Matthew Stafford necessarily
gonna play again. I retire five with a lot of money,
a lot of Super Bowl win. You got, you got
your w You know your wife's concerned. You've had I
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mean my wife went through a serious medical condition, but
also from his side, looking at from the medicals that
he's had right coming into the year, he had the
and then you have concussions plus a spinal thing. Towards
the end, I think him enough to say, hey, I'm done.
He got his Super Bowl, he proved that he wasn't
a bust out there. He went ahead and went from
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the worst team and said, hey, if you put me
around a good players, I could win. And that's exactly
what he did. He he has nothing left to proof. Yeah,
you know what, what's always been interesting to him not
to go deep into the Matthew Stafford world because you know,
folkas little site and looks at his record against plus
five hundred teams all that, whatever else. How many current
and former quarterbacks of of high repute did you always
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hear list? Matthew Stafford is one of the guys they
love to watch. There's so many of them, like Aaron Rodgers,
like a little kid talking about the way Matthew Stafford
can throw a football and what he can do and
love it, hate it. Whatever the records are, the standings
were what they were. The interception totals, working the ball
down field, it's a it's a different animal because you
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go back to old old times of of winging the
ball around touchdown. The interception ratio was not a huge consideration,
right is, as long as you were you're trying to
make things happen. Bradshaw and those guys. He didn't throw
it a ton, but they had high interception rates because
you're you're pushing the ball down field and hoping your
guys winning. Now you do a lot of what are
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extended handoffs to get into those high sixty completion percentages.
I don't fault it. It's just the way the games evolved.
So I think are thinking about what a quarterback's value
truly is also needs to adjust as well. Be sure
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Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith. This week off resting
up trying to figure out how to justify excuse the
collapse by the New York Football Jets photo shopping Jets
logos on bodies of any potentially available quarterback, longing for
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the days of the golden locks of Richard Todd. Richard Todd,
that's the way. By the way, Doug is disappointed in you,
why says here He tweeted it, I'm disap pointed in you, guys.
He really means you. Um also, you forgot Mr Fuji
is sub Zero in The Running Man, sub Zero in
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The Running Man. Mr Fuji you don't remember that, of
course I remember Mr Fuji. Yeah, he was a he
was a good one. He was a manager. Sub zeros
no zero anymore. That yeah, something like that. See I
watched Insane. That was great though. I mean it had Dweezels,
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Zappa and Mick Fleetwood in there. It had Richard Dawson, right, yeah,
he was the Dawson Jim Brown. Yeah, there, I love it.
Sub Zero was true Tanaka again a wrestler, but not
Mr Fuji. Okay, so just you know, I want to
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make sure because I was like, I don't think it
was Mr Fujie. I think it was a wrestler. So
we got it right. It's true Tanaka. Different guy. But
it gets us to where we need to be because
we sell. We celebrate the entirety of the sporting and
entertainment universe. That's what we try to bring together here.
A lot of laughs, a lot of entertainment, and a
lot of nostalgia. Arnie and I with our vast experience
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in the sports talk radio industry and life, I mean
lived advice from Arnie Spanier should be its own podcast
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Swollen Dome. Now, the transfer portal has its critics, it
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has its uh people that really back it to a
whole other level. You watch these uh collectives, coalitions, all
the different names that each school brings to. Well, we're
gonna get a group of people together that can be
money managers and advisors to student athletes. Uh. In other words,
hey expand the recruiting process and tell them how we
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can make money for them. Northwestern, my alma monitor, had
a really good opportunity as a first mover and they failed. Uh.
They finally have that together and we'll see what that
collective can do going forward. They've got a lot of
good things in terms of campus facilities and all, but
a little slow moving there. But the transfer portal grass
is greener. Go find your opportunities and look, we we
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have certain situations and we can go back to um
Dion Sanders in the room talking to players at Colorado.
Bevery okay, I'm bringing guys you best advised to think
about the portal. How could you not want to leave
after you hear right, But you're you've gotta be realistic
of what like in everything, right, anything you're doing in life,
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you gotta be realistic of your opportunities and chances and
recognize where your opportunity and the door maybe closing. Where
you are at your job, maybe you've hit a ceiling,
maybe you've been salary capped. Uh, you know you work
in one of the divisions where they say, look where
this is it. This is as much money as we're
gonna commit here. Regardless of what your responsibilities are changing into,
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et cetera, here's the growth potential. If you need more
than you might have to move on, and you may
have to change locations, you may have to move. All
of those things come into play regardless of what industry
you're in. But certainly in college football right now, you've
got a lot of free movement with coaches they want
their own guys. Right in this case, Dean Sanders is
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bringing his kid and guys that he was coaching and
just saying, hey, we've got a whole turnover of a
roster here, so you're gonna have to fight for a
roster spot, and I can't guarantee you're sticking around, so
you may want to at least look into your opportunities
in the portal. And as honest, I would like a
coach like that. I appreciate that. It's got a lot
of folks thought it was angry and harsh or whatever.
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It's like. It was hard. Sometimes life is harsh, exactly,
say that that's life. Life is harsh. They bring in
the office today, we don't need you anymore. Goodbye. That's
the way life is. Yeah, we've been blessed I and
we we lived. You're in southern California, right, I'm not
too far. If I put you on a skateboard, you
survive a couple of big streets, you'll be on the
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edge of a beach, all right. Just to be honest,
pay pay through the nose. It's California. We talked about
costs of living, taxes, whatever else. But my kids have
had a good run in the schools are good. But
we always had the parents that would avoid the hard
teachers when they were in third grade, fourth grade, whatever.
I like, what's gonna happen when they're suddenly in eighth
grade and they get someone that doesn't want to put
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up with their nonsense. At some point it's happening, and
if it doesn't happen early enough, the meltdown is gonna
be that much bigger. Right, at some point, you have
to struggle through something in your life. Otherwise when adversity
finally strikes, you're gonna have no idea how to handle it.
And right now, for all these college players, they're they're
in that tough part, and we we saw a little
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bit of it blow up. You know, when you're you're
thinking about transferring, you may have to do the unthinkable
and transferred to an in state rival, conference rival. We've
seen it for years, right as graduate transfers, guys in
the Big Tan or whatever. Hey, then that guy play
at Michigan. Yeah, now he's in Iowa. Okay, cool, good
for him. Uh, I know, trace Ford from Oklahoma State
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to Oklahoma. Our colleague Doug Doug Gottlieb was none too
pleased about it. You can't do that though, you see.
But again this is not really apples to apples. If
you're good enough to go from like in Oklahoma State
to in Oklahoma, and that means you're good enough to
go and have other options also, Um, but if you
decided that your best option. That's your best option, I guess,
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But that doesn't mean you're beyond getting ripped for it.
And then you can get ripped for it, and that's fine.
Everybody can get up in their fields. It's like saying,
you don't mind if I date your X do you?
If we're best friends? You know there's all these women
out there. Why you gotta go and date my eggs?
For grid out loud? Look, I know you're allowed to,
but it doesn't make me feel anty better. Kind of
like the same thing. And if you're good enough to
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go ahead and you know, go to your arrivals, you're
good enough to have a lot of other options. You're
right for him, though, Well you're right, but if you
want to stay right but if you want to stay
close to home, and we don't I don't know all
the guys family circumstances, and we can do this with
many others, but this is the one that that popped
up today. And it's obviously a guy with some juice,
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you know, nearly double digit sacks and a star. But
it's just the larger conversation of I can't I can
never understand someone's thought process and that they want to
lay it out to me, right, and in the end,
what's best for them. They make their decision. I may
not like it, especially if they're leaving my school and
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my alma mater to go to you know, the the
in state rival, the traditional rival, whatever, which we that
will survive all the changes in college football, right, those
won't go away. I don't care even if you change conferences.
They're always going to have that legacy and history that
are gonna be there. And I understand folks being upset
about it, but in the end, it's like anything, it's
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like it's his to do it. And he's a college
student that decided this was the best option for him.
And and I have no doubt he had other offers,
of course that he that he could have gone and done.
Maybe maybe he's got a girlfriend at home, Maybe he's
got family stuff, right, mom, dad, grandma, grandpa. We have
no idea. There's millions of permutations and what is Maybe
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they just get him the best offer because he was
the guy that they wanted, thinking they could put one
over on the rival. Mike, it wasn't too long ago.
We're like Nick Saban said, you can't even transfer to
the team in the same conference, We're like, we're gonna
block you from doing that, which was I thought was
topefully crazy. That wasn't even too long ago. No, but
that's just it, right, and that even use the rules
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to your advantage, whoever you are right. For the longest time,
it was the institutions that have had every advantage and
every hold on a point. It's not that you can't,
it's just doesn't feel right. Do you understand that. It's
not that you can't teach your buddies X. It just
doesn't feel right. That's what it's about. Did you marry
your buddies X? No? I did not. Kind of has
to got a little bit. You're feeling guilty about something. No. No,
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But but I get your example and I understand. But look,
it's like any any business that that's out there, right,
You're looking for profitability, you're looking for opportunities, and we
a show tendant here, Arnie has always been. I can't
fall to good strategy. I may not agree with it right,
how people other people construct their shows. How other people
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you know, what cars they drive, whatever else, what they
place emphasis in on their lives. It's their lives. Like
I shrug, but life goes on the same thing here
for this kid deciding he's gonna transfer. Yeah, you don't
the way the college football public geting me number one
to year old team. Now you know that, don't And
that's fine, Okay, then just as long as you know that, No,
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and I gotta think coming after it or anybody else
has to feel the same way coming after you. And
going back to our sling conversation of forty five minutes ago,
this is where you're standing on the other side of
the ring and you raise the one hand and you say,
bring it. Do we know a lot of kids are
transferred from like USC to U C l A or
vice a version. I haven't done that from Michigan the
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Ohio States. I haven't done the math of it. There's
got no I'm sure it's not critical mass. But maybe
you're looking at it's a whole new age for a
lot of this stuff, right, A lot a lot of
purists are mad that you ce l A and u
USC are gonna leave the pack twelve. No, No, but
but it's a it's another example or college coaches the
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way they bounced around, or the transfer portal or N
I L and everything. I mean we've We've had a
lot of people in our business in the college level.
I mean, how many times have you heard, Oh, there's
gonna be potential angst in the mayor's office, the governor's office.
They're mad about this right here in California. Is like,
we're gonna have all these special meetings. We can't let
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you U c l A do this, and if they do,
they're gonna have to pay cal two to five million
dollars a year. Wait what No, No, but legitimately why Yeah,
it's stupid, But why did they Why was that even
agreed on? I understand that. Yeah, I can't wait to
see the the full white pages of all these meetings.
But you get my point. It's like we're in a
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place we're not. We're not where we were twenty five
years ago. We're guys coached at a college forever. Your
Bobby Bowden's and Joe Paternos and guys like that, Like
they lived and died with those schools. No, you could
pick and choose when you got to leave. You know
what I mean that those days are long gone. You
just don't have those anymore. You got you don't have
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those like that. Yeah, I mean people wanted is so
to step on down at Michigan State basketball for the
longest time, especially with all the controversies there. He's thinking
about before last year's run, Jim Harbaugh, everybody hated him, like,
what do you doing other than winning nine or ten
games a year? Damn you? You stink It's like Ohio State.
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But but think about it, Arnty, I mean, how crazy
is that. It's it's like they were a perennial national championship,
which they never were. But they never were. It's it's
the where you want to be versus recognizing who you are.
And you've got a guy who has proven he can win.
Whatever your personal thoughts are about his politics, about some
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of the press conferences, whatever else. The guy win football games. Well,
they wanted to be where they're there are right now.
That's being the playoff. That's what they wanted, right. But
bouncing him, it's always the question if you're gonna fire
a coach, you better better damn well know that you
can find somebody better. Nobody said he was gonna get fired.
There was just a speculation out there, right, and that
that's where it begins, right. Someone wants that out some booster,
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some executive whatever. Right, we know how this business works, alright,
they're gonna force him that. I'm not so sure that
was you know, that was the first thing out of
the agenda for Michigan. I know it. But it's just
a larger point that even if you're winning consistently doesn't
mean you're necessarily going to be safe. Now, in his case,
he may decide if they should win at all, and
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we'll talk about the what a championship and how many
years later? Was he gone? Two years later? But that
that's you say, you get a short shelf life. That's crazy. Though.
There should be a rule that if you win a championship,
you get at least three years where you don't get fired.
It should be like automatic, no matter no matter what
you're doing behind the scenes or what the programs doing.
Oh you go for thirty just you be able to
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keep your job. Geez. I mean, come on, man, you
wouldn't able to go over there. You get to keep
your job for three years. You're what's wrong with America.
He's already span here participation next three. I'm not saying
that's the way to go either, but you know, once
you've proven that you know, you super Bowl run up
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or a national title and things have gone to hell.
Eventually you move on, let me repel. You get just
what your championship. Give me more than a year to
rebuild it. Geez, maybe you did something to cheese off
somebody about that. Aren't not always about what's going on
on the side, true, no doubt about that. They are
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We're still running up that hill, aren't he doing? Stairs?
The road to Swoll three is on as we can
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be a lot of the tire Act studios. What you're
serious about this? I gotta be. I'm gonna be fifty
in October, so I gotta be a lean, mean fighting machine. No,
do you have MLC? What MLC? Oh? It's I had?
Are you talking midlife crisis? Ye oh you did? I
(28:57):
had mine last year. You know, I had a doctor
put a little of a scare into me. She kind
of shame to me a little bit. Really, you're only
this age What are you doing, man? What do you
want from me? I yelled back at im, I go
leave me alone. Well I didn't do that. I just
more was like, all right, you show me where in
any of my schedule I'm getting a normal person's night
(29:20):
of sleep while keeping the job that I do, entertaining
and informing the masses here all day. What are you talking?
What are you talking about? You're texting me at eight
thirty in the morning, so you just put it on silent.
I don't sleepy. Do you get eight hours sleep at night? Now? Oh?
I had done that since I was like five, and
then as soon as I broke my leg in high school,
(29:41):
that was the end of it. Man, I was you know,
they were telling me I was going to lose my legs.
So at that point I started drinking coffee and that
was the goodness. And here I am with all the
neuroses of your typical sports talk radio host. Hey coming
up in dead minutes. I think it's Brian No tonight
in for the great Ben Mallard year. I hate all
Dolphin fans and he's one of them. Him and VJ.
(30:03):
Husky hate all dolphin fans. Well, you aren't you forming
some unholy triumvirate. They all make me sick, except for myself.
I'm the I'm the only real Why do they make
you sick? Oh? They just have They just fool themselves
and they just don't not honest with themselves. And we'll
just remember hope is a dangerous thing. Well, we had
(30:26):
a lot of hope this year. That's well. But that's
the thing, right is you know Smith tries to diminish
what the Jets are now, saying, well, they're the Jets.
You knew this was gonna happen, like, no, no, no no,
I want them to move just because of Jason? Is
that wrong with me? Hate watching is a real thing,
whether it's the team or something. You know, I'm the
king of hate watching. No, I have no doubt you
(30:46):
might actually sit there with a scepter and a crown.
Who do you think roots against Plank for the last decade? Me? Geez, wow,
I know a lot of angst there, that's no question
about it. How about this Lori Jayne's office manager the
dental center in Louisville in a white elephant party. Right,
you have the gifts that go in and you swap
(31:08):
them and and then you you get what you get. Uh,
she had gotten a twenty five dollar t J Max
gift card. Someone else stole it. Oh not the TJ Max. Yeah,
so got stole it. So she had to go pick
another gift and she was upset that she didn't have
the TJ masting that you wanted. They got good deals there. Well,
so you got twenty five dollars and scratch off lottery
tickets from the Kentucky Lottery. Hundred seventy five thousand dollars,
(31:31):
aren't he year? Yeah? First ticket, she wins fifty bucks.
Second ticket, boom, all fifteen spots on the ticket, hundred
seventy five minus minus well wait minus? What you are
you really gonna get mad about the taxes? No, no, no,
nothing about the taxes. No, nothing about the taxes. You
(31:53):
gotta give something to the person that brought the president,
you know, Oh sure you do. Look look out cheap
you are? No blank dad. I'll buy percent you got
Mike no finder's feet because they picked the right scratcher.
If I'll buy him a sandwich if you want to,
If you want to gloves and you didn't give me
(32:13):
twenty why would I give you twenty dollars? You brought
it to the party. You know what, you should have
scratched drone damn self. You would have a big scratch
on your car. How about that? Well, and you're you're
just like Jason. He always talks about key in our car.
Thanks for doing that nationwide here across fo you're not
giving me twenty g If I'm key in your car,
(32:34):
then you owe me twenty How do I owe you twenty?
I want you put the prize in there as one
of those kind of ha ha ha. You'll get your
two bucks in a free ticket. Yeah, I got a
grand If you like, I would have kept it myself.
Well you didn't. Bad job by you, Sure it is.
I guess maybe I buy you a pottle of booze.
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You need to give me more than that. Man, here's
a nice dinner. Don't you take a mendis? Don't you
have to give like five hundred to everybody that is
the party to Wow, you're really you're Joe generosity. I
get it. I appreciate you, and we've celebrated your with you. Yeah, well,
but you know it's the spirit of the thing, alright, everybody,
(33:16):
it's twenty five or less? Okay, I put in twenty
five scratchers. I'm gonna make sure if I buy a
scratch off for somebody, you can't win more than twenty
five thousand or something like that. What's the top prize bucks?
Just completely terrible. It's like, look, you want the great price,
Good for you, You're the big winner. Hey Dallas, Uh
(33:40):
Tennessee Tomorrow at Tennessee, Mike Brabel operations shut down for
the squad. Malik Willis under center Ryan Tannehill. Let's face it,
he's one of the guys that will be on the outs.
Been in the league a while two thousand twelve draft class,
so one of those potential destinations. As we start mocking
mocking up photos and photo shopping Derek Carr into random uniforms. Uh.
(34:01):
Just Tennessee still put up a fight with Hassan Haskins.
I don't know if they'll put a bunch of a fight,
but I like Dallas and me. Dallas at the number
five seats. They do have a chance to catch San Francisco,
though I'm not so sure Dallas, even though that would
give him a home game. I think they kind of
want to play Tampa. If you had your choice, would
you rather play Tampa on the road or the New
York Giants at home. You know that's the question there.
(34:24):
Um though the Giants aren't very good either. I don't
know if they'll catch San Francisco, but it is a
big game for Dallas, so we'll see what happens. I
think i'd rather and it's I'm never trying to avoid anybody.
I'm just going to but in the end, like, would
I rather take my chances that Daniel Jones isn't ready
for prime time? Right? That Ryan Jensen being back at
practice means that offensive lines a little bit better, and
(34:47):
maybe I could buy a little bit more in the
run game and balance for Tom Brady. I think I'd
rather fight the Giants. I agree, Yeah, I agree. Actually,
they're gonna have a lot to play for the Giants.
Dallas twelve and a half point favorites tomorrow. Are they
are covering? Wow, that's a lot of thirty nine and
a half is the total? Arty, I'd rather go with
the Cowboys in the y over is the way I'm going.
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Nicely done. He's already spann your he'll be back again
on Friday. Arty, Piece of Love, funny, Thanks for sitting
in thin Bryan No, it's coming up next as he
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the question of could you go play for your rival?
As we talk about transfer portals and everybody getting angry
and possessive about players they're leaving. Ye of them find success,
(02:13):
but when they find that other school doesn't make you
mad the old cartoon and I get mad. I get mad,
I get mad, and on social media, I get really mad.
That's what we do in this day and age, Arnie Spaniard,
but a lot of angry, well, some relieved Raider fans
because the news I think we expected from the last
couple of days finally came down as Josh Josh McDaniels
(02:33):
and the Raider brass finally said, you know what, Derek
Carr is no longer quarterbacking here in operations shut down,
an old reference to the Derek Bell announcing that he
was an operation shut down because he was mad at
the Pirates um that he's done and that Jared Stiddon
will be the quarterback for the final two weeks. Now
(02:53):
the Raiders still have, with a lot of help, the
opportunity to be a playoff team, which and they've obviously said,
well if we get there, great, Jared Stidham will be
our guy. So putting Derek Carr in mothballs. He's been
exiled from the squad. They had their conversations everything else,
and depending on where you are and then continuum, it's
either Derek Carr is not the problem, which look, it's
(03:16):
it's all the how much of a percentage do you
want to give the quarterback? Right? Because the heavy where
is the head that wears the crown? Right, So it's
either the quarterback or coach and Mark Davis has gone
out of his way, at least through his minions in
the media, to give all the votes of confidence to
the regime he is now installed, which means when you
(03:37):
have a quarterback that you can fix the glitch as
it were, and move on to the next phase. Now
what the answer is behind door number two, I don't know.
Is it Jared Stidham, Is it a draft pick? Is
it a quarterback that comes in in the NFL's version
of the transfer portal and free agency or a trade
(03:57):
or whatever the case may be. But Derek Carr will
no longer be that guy. And look, I aged myself.
I I feel like I've aged a lot working alongside
Jason Smith. And sometimes you already span you're here on
Fox Sports Radio. Um, but I aged myself, and sometimes
you gotta pause and and remember how long guys have
been in the league. Derek Carr has been been at
(04:18):
it for nine years. You don't have any playoff wins,
You've had a struggling season, and you could say, hey,
Waller was hurt, Renfro was hurt. For good stretches. Josh
Jacobs has been amazing. Be curious to see what they
do with him uh as they didn't give him his
fifth year pick up his option, right, So you've got
that going. Their offensive line has been awful and Derek
(04:39):
Carr the last month has struggled mightily. But you pull
it all together. You've got nine years and you're trying
to figure out what the direction of your team maybe.
And we all know that people are talking behind the scenes,
all the laughable things about tampering or whatever else. Everybody
can beat it. There's phones, there's planes, there's zoom, there's
(05:00):
all thinking. Guys aren't talking to each other and trying
to figure out next steps is asinine to me and
trying to regulate that. But we're in the silly season
in the NFL. So now it becomes the there's Derek
Carr in that short window. Is there a trade possibility
while he's got a no trade clause if he gets cut.
There's a lot of teams that in theory, will be
looking for quarterbacks, might be looking for some new coaches
(05:23):
as well. So it's really an interesting time in the
a f C West that everybody thought was gonna be
a juggernaut. And I say everybody except maybe you and
me and about ten of our closest friends in the
media world, because I wasn't convinced Denver was gonna be
any good, and I certainly thought the Raiders were flukey
(05:43):
the way they won last year, much like everybody's bemoaning
what's going on with Minnesota now that the law of
averages says those bounces don't go your way? Uh two
years in a row, and they certainly have not. So
now you're at this this crossroads and they've decided, Hey, Derek,
are thanks for a job done. Welcome to the front line.
(06:05):
Jared's did him? Yeah, I mean, look, there's just a
couple of things on on Car. I mean, first of all,
who's gonna benefit most more from this? Is it gonna
be the Raiders moving on to another quarterback, or is
it gonna be Um Car going to the team of
his choice and deciding, you know, where's the great situation
for me? I still think the Matthew Stafford analogy is
a good one, is as much as Jason Cole thought
(06:26):
it was horrible analogy there. Um, I still think Derek
Carr's a better quarterback than you have to give him
credit for. And you get to pick the perfect situation,
You get to go where you want, and you know,
you get to go ahead and see what's around you.
So I don't think it's a bad place for him.
I know he's disappointed and they're treating him like garbage,
told him not to be around the team. And I'm
(06:48):
sure he's hurt, given nine years of his life over this.
But hey, it is a business. So well. But that's
the thing we all have to remember in all of this,
and and we try to be sensitive to the human
side of it. All right, Oh no, but no, I
do to a point. But Tom Brady, you can get
pushed out of the page riots anybody you know. But
but that, but that's the great point, right. Joe Montana
(07:08):
ended up in a cheap Marcus Allen Rice. I've got
trading cards of him in Seattle Seahawks Dan Broncos uniforms,
right well, And in his case, he was Frankenstein with
a bunch of next and you had the opportunity to
take the number one guy who unfortunately got beat up
a bunch but it happened. But that's just it, right,
(07:31):
if you want to continue your career in in every business,
right our business, longevity at any one place is a
rarity I'm blessed to do what I do here at Fox. Now,
you've been with the company a while here, Aren'tie? And
and we know we've got a lot of friends who've
you know, had the the wheel spin For all of
you out there, whatever job you in, you're in, and
(07:52):
I know it's it's tenuous times and a lot of uncertainty,
and I wish you all the best wherever you're listening. However,
you're part of our extending family here at Fox Sports Radio.
But change is inevitable. And give me, give me a number.
How many quarterbacks you think? I get the quarterback at
one team for nine straight years? Um in the NFL?
(08:13):
What you tell me? How many of them have nine
year careers? Light alone? Right? But but I think the
sub degree we've gotten spoiled. When you look at a Rogers,
you look at a Brady who eventually left team Drew Brees,
Guys like that, they're rare, really are to be able
(08:37):
to play that long, right, because one of one of
the great examples, and he ends up playing in in
New England and you had, you know, some weirdness towards
the end of his group. But go to cam Newton,
he had a hell of a run for eight plus years.
You take that, Yet people look at it as I
didn't hold up long enough. What do you expect? Like,
(08:57):
I know, it's we've got better supplements at science, better
medical rules. But when you're a guy like him who
was still carrying the ball a hundred times a year
and you put yourself out out on the floor for
a lot of hits, so you were doing half the
work of running back. Because think about the way the
running back position has evolved, aren'ty We got two or
three guys on most squads, like a guy like Derrick Henry.
(09:20):
We were talking about his touch count being over three
hundred for this year. I mean, that's such an outlier.
You got a handful of guys that see two hundred
carries anymore. Last year we had eight guys hit a
thousand rushing yards in a season. To show you how
fractured it is, both from injury and expectations and workload usage,
(09:42):
like it's just a different game. And for quarterbacks, yeah,
if you can get nine years somewhere, great, but that
is also a lot of time to show that you're
the guy right because he has it gotten it done right.
And I get that point, that's why I'll go. I'll
go to Miami if there's an opening there. I mean,
you've got two great receivers in Tyreek Hill and Waddle
(10:03):
Um young coach, You've got some running game out there.
Hopefully you get a better defense. That's a great situation
for him. And it's not cold weather that that would
be even probably my top pick if if they got
past two. I'm not so sure they're gonna do that though. Yeah,
I think it goes down to and Arnie, just to
the larger quarterback point with car if he's got the
opportunity to choose, then that then that that is obviously
(10:26):
number one if he's if he can be the top
guy in the list. I don't know how long that
list will be in terms of veteran players who will
truly be on the move who don't either get franchise
or re upped with their respective squads. But you know,
we talk about franchise quarterbacks. I think there's small left
franchise guys and there's big f franchise guys. Derek Carr
has been a franchise quarterback of the small left of
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everything else would have to go right to get you there.
Because he's not a guy who's dragging me along. Right,
Our guy Bucky Brooks do the show with him on
Sunday mornings. He always talks about trucks and trailers. Who's
the guy pulling? A guy like Mahomes, a guy that
could be that guy in Justin Herbert, a guy like
Joe Burrow, a lot of other guys. Jalen Hurts looks
(11:10):
like he's that guy, but you know he's he a
hybrid to the trailer thing where he needs all those
things to work. Like Micah Parsons was talking about, you know,
the future will tell us because he was another guy
like to that. Many people had their questions about of
what he was gonna be. And he's had a fantastic
run thirteen and two. I hope he's healthy and gets
back in for the playoff run A little more nervous
(11:31):
of Lane Johnson. You notice how much I care and
and love my offensive lineman, and when they're hurt, I
feel bad because everything crumbles from there. Go go look
at a lot of the teams that are bottom feeders.
What's the common denominator? Terrible offensive lines and a guy
running for his life. I mean, there's more to the Yeah.
I mean besides that though, um yeah, I mean, just
(11:53):
just one thing on more there a car. I know
you want to go to a place where a good
offensive line. I understand that. But nine years Yeah, you
got a good run with the Raiders. Now it's time
to go ahead and do something for yourself. Pick a
team that's gonna go ahead and make you successful. Pick
a team that's got some good offensive weapons. Pick a
team where you're gonna be loved by the fan base.
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And you know what, if you're gonna be a backup,
he could be a backup with the Rams. If Baker
Mayfield ends up leaving that point, well, but that's the question.
You know, one of the Rams is Matthew Stafford necessarily
gonna play again. I retire five with a lot of money,
a lot of Super Bowl win. You got, you got
your w You know your wife's concerned. You've had I
(12:34):
mean my wife went through a serious medical condition, but
also from his side, looking at from the medicals that
he's had right coming into the year, he had the
and then you have concussions plus a spinal thing. Towards
the end, I think him enough to say, hey, I'm done.
He got his Super Bowl, he proved that he wasn't
a bust out there. He went ahead and went from
(12:55):
the worst team and said, hey, if you put me
around a good players, I could win. And that's exactly
what he did. He he has nothing left to proof. Yeah,
you know what, what's always been interesting to him not
to go deep into the Matthew Stafford world because you know,
folkas little site and looks at his record against plus
five hundred teams all that, whatever else. How many current
and former quarterbacks of of high repute did you always
(13:19):
hear list? Matthew Stafford is one of the guys they
love to watch. There's so many of them, like Aaron Rodgers,
like a little kid talking about the way Matthew Stafford
can throw a football and what he can do and
love it, hate it. Whatever the records are, the standings
were what they were. The interception totals, working the ball
down field, it's a it's a different animal because you
(13:41):
go back to old old times of of winging the
ball around touchdown. The interception ratio was not a huge consideration,
right is, as long as you were you're trying to
make things happen. Bradshaw and those guys. He didn't throw
it a ton, but they had high interception rates because
you're you're pushing the ball down field and hoping your
guys winning. Now you do a lot of what are
(14:03):
extended handoffs to get into those high sixty completion percentages.
I don't fault it. It's just the way the games evolved.
So I think are thinking about what a quarterback's value
truly is also needs to adjust as well. Be sure
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Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with
Me Mike Harmon. No Jason Smith. This week off resting
up trying to figure out how to justify excuse the
collapse by the New York Football Jets photo shopping Jets
logos on bodies of any potentially available quarterback, longing for
(14:49):
the days of the golden locks of Richard Todd. Richard Todd,
that's the way. By the way, Doug is disappointed in you,
why says here He tweeted it, I'm disap pointed in you, guys.
He really means you. Um also, you forgot Mr Fuji
is sub Zero in The Running Man, sub Zero in
(15:10):
The Running Man. Mr Fuji you don't remember that, of
course I remember Mr Fuji. Yeah, he was a he
was a good one. He was a manager. Sub zeros
no zero anymore. That yeah, something like that. See I
watched Insane. That was great though. I mean it had Dweezels,
(15:32):
Zappa and Mick Fleetwood in there. It had Richard Dawson, right, yeah,
he was the Dawson Jim Brown. Yeah, there, I love it.
Sub Zero was true Tanaka again a wrestler, but not
Mr Fuji. Okay, so just you know, I want to
(15:53):
make sure because I was like, I don't think it
was Mr Fujie. I think it was a wrestler. So
we got it right. It's true Tanaka. Different guy. But
it gets us to where we need to be because
we sell. We celebrate the entirety of the sporting and
entertainment universe. That's what we try to bring together here.
A lot of laughs, a lot of entertainment, and a
lot of nostalgia. Arnie and I with our vast experience
(16:14):
in the sports talk radio industry and life, I mean
lived advice from Arnie Spanier should be its own podcast
and then you add a couple of betting picks and
away we go. There you go at Stinking Genius one
where you find him on Twitter, find me over at
Swollen Dome. Now, the transfer portal has its critics, it
(16:36):
has its uh people that really back it to a
whole other level. You watch these uh collectives, coalitions, all
the different names that each school brings to. Well, we're
gonna get a group of people together that can be
money managers and advisors to student athletes. Uh. In other words,
hey expand the recruiting process and tell them how we
(16:58):
can make money for them. Northwestern, my alma monitor, had
a really good opportunity as a first mover and they failed. Uh.
They finally have that together and we'll see what that
collective can do going forward. They've got a lot of
good things in terms of campus facilities and all, but
a little slow moving there. But the transfer portal grass
is greener. Go find your opportunities and look, we we
(17:20):
have certain situations and we can go back to um
Dion Sanders in the room talking to players at Colorado.
Bevery okay, I'm bringing guys you best advised to think
about the portal. How could you not want to leave
after you hear right, But you're you've gotta be realistic
of what like in everything, right, anything you're doing in life,
(17:42):
you gotta be realistic of your opportunities and chances and
recognize where your opportunity and the door maybe closing. Where
you are at your job, maybe you've hit a ceiling,
maybe you've been salary capped. Uh, you know you work
in one of the divisions where they say, look where
this is it. This is as much money as we're
gonna commit here. Regardless of what your responsibilities are changing into,
(18:04):
et cetera, here's the growth potential. If you need more
than you might have to move on, and you may
have to change locations, you may have to move. All
of those things come into play regardless of what industry
you're in. But certainly in college football right now, you've
got a lot of free movement with coaches they want
their own guys. Right in this case, Dean Sanders is
(18:24):
bringing his kid and guys that he was coaching and
just saying, hey, we've got a whole turnover of a
roster here, so you're gonna have to fight for a
roster spot, and I can't guarantee you're sticking around, so
you may want to at least look into your opportunities
in the portal. And as honest, I would like a
coach like that. I appreciate that. It's got a lot
of folks thought it was angry and harsh or whatever.
(18:46):
It's like. It was hard. Sometimes life is harsh, exactly,
say that that's life. Life is harsh. They bring in
the office today, we don't need you anymore. Goodbye. That's
the way life is. Yeah, we've been blessed I and
we we lived. You're in southern California, right, I'm not
too far. If I put you on a skateboard, you
survive a couple of big streets, you'll be on the
(19:07):
edge of a beach, all right. Just to be honest,
pay pay through the nose. It's California. We talked about
costs of living, taxes, whatever else. But my kids have
had a good run in the schools are good. But
we always had the parents that would avoid the hard
teachers when they were in third grade, fourth grade, whatever.
I like, what's gonna happen when they're suddenly in eighth
grade and they get someone that doesn't want to put
(19:27):
up with their nonsense. At some point it's happening, and
if it doesn't happen early enough, the meltdown is gonna
be that much bigger. Right, at some point, you have
to struggle through something in your life. Otherwise when adversity
finally strikes, you're gonna have no idea how to handle it.
And right now, for all these college players, they're they're
in that tough part, and we we saw a little
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bit of it blow up. You know, when you're you're
thinking about transferring, you may have to do the unthinkable
and transferred to an in state rival, conference rival. We've
seen it for years, right as graduate transfers, guys in
the Big Tan or whatever. Hey, then that guy play
at Michigan. Yeah, now he's in Iowa. Okay, cool, good
for him. Uh, I know, trace Ford from Oklahoma State
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to Oklahoma. Our colleague Doug Doug Gottlieb was none too
pleased about it. You can't do that though, you see.
But again this is not really apples to apples. If
you're good enough to go from like in Oklahoma State
to in Oklahoma, and that means you're good enough to
go and have other options also, Um, but if you
decided that your best option. That's your best option, I guess,
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But that doesn't mean you're beyond getting ripped for it.
And then you can get ripped for it, and that's fine.
Everybody can get up in their fields. It's like saying,
you don't mind if I date your X do you?
If we're best friends? You know there's all these women
out there. Why you gotta go and date my eggs?
For grid out loud? Look, I know you're allowed to,
but it doesn't make me feel anty better. Kind of
like the same thing. And if you're good enough to
(20:53):
go ahead and you know, go to your arrivals, you're
good enough to have a lot of other options. You're
right for him, though, Well you're right, but if you
want to stay right but if you want to stay
close to home, and we don't I don't know all
the guys family circumstances, and we can do this with
many others, but this is the one that that popped
up today. And it's obviously a guy with some juice,
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you know, nearly double digit sacks and a star. But
it's just the larger conversation of I can't I can
never understand someone's thought process and that they want to
lay it out to me, right, and in the end,
what's best for them. They make their decision. I may
not like it, especially if they're leaving my school and
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my alma mater to go to you know, the the
in state rival, the traditional rival, whatever, which we that
will survive all the changes in college football, right, those
won't go away. I don't care even if you change conferences.
They're always going to have that legacy and history that
are gonna be there. And I understand folks being upset
about it, but in the end, it's like anything, it's
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like it's his to do it. And he's a college
student that decided this was the best option for him.
And and I have no doubt he had other offers,
of course that he that he could have gone and done.
Maybe maybe he's got a girlfriend at home, Maybe he's
got family stuff, right, mom, dad, grandma, grandpa. We have
no idea. There's millions of permutations and what is Maybe
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they just get him the best offer because he was
the guy that they wanted, thinking they could put one
over on the rival. Mike, it wasn't too long ago.
We're like Nick Saban said, you can't even transfer to
the team in the same conference, We're like, we're gonna
block you from doing that, which was I thought was
topefully crazy. That wasn't even too long ago. No, but
that's just it, right, and that even use the rules
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to your advantage, whoever you are right. For the longest time,
it was the institutions that have had every advantage and
every hold on a point. It's not that you can't,
it's just doesn't feel right. Do you understand that. It's
not that you can't teach your buddies X. It just
doesn't feel right. That's what it's about. Did you marry
your buddies X? No? I did not. Kind of has
to got a little bit. You're feeling guilty about something. No. No,
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But but I get your example and I understand. But look,
it's like any any business that that's out there, right,
You're looking for profitability, you're looking for opportunities, and we
a show tendant here, Arnie has always been. I can't
fall to good strategy. I may not agree with it right,
how people other people construct their shows. How other people
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you know, what cars they drive, whatever else, what they
place emphasis in on their lives. It's their lives. Like
I shrug, but life goes on the same thing here
for this kid deciding he's gonna transfer. Yeah, you don't
the way the college football public geting me number one
to year old team. Now you know that, don't And
that's fine, Okay, then just as long as you know that, No,
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and I gotta think coming after it or anybody else
has to feel the same way coming after you. And
going back to our sling conversation of forty five minutes ago,
this is where you're standing on the other side of
the ring and you raise the one hand and you say,
bring it. Do we know a lot of kids are
transferred from like USC to U C l A or
vice a version. I haven't done that from Michigan the
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Ohio States. I haven't done the math of it. There's
got no I'm sure it's not critical mass. But maybe
you're looking at it's a whole new age for a
lot of this stuff, right, A lot a lot of
purists are mad that you ce l A and u
USC are gonna leave the pack twelve. No, No, but
but it's a it's another example or college coaches the
(24:37):
way they bounced around, or the transfer portal or N
I L and everything. I mean we've We've had a
lot of people in our business in the college level.
I mean, how many times have you heard, Oh, there's
gonna be potential angst in the mayor's office, the governor's office.
They're mad about this right here in California. Is like,
we're gonna have all these special meetings. We can't let
(24:58):
you U c l A do this, and if they do,
they're gonna have to pay cal two to five million
dollars a year. Wait what No, No, but legitimately why Yeah,
it's stupid, But why did they Why was that even
agreed on? I understand that. Yeah, I can't wait to
see the the full white pages of all these meetings.
But you get my point. It's like we're in a
(25:19):
place we're not. We're not where we were twenty five
years ago. We're guys coached at a college forever. Your
Bobby Bowden's and Joe Paternos and guys like that, Like
they lived and died with those schools. No, you could
pick and choose when you got to leave. You know
what I mean that those days are long gone. You
just don't have those anymore. You got you don't have
(25:40):
those like that. Yeah, I mean people wanted is so
to step on down at Michigan State basketball for the
longest time, especially with all the controversies there. He's thinking
about before last year's run, Jim Harbaugh, everybody hated him, like,
what do you doing other than winning nine or ten
games a year? Damn you? You stink It's like Ohio State.
(26:02):
But but think about it, Arnty, I mean, how crazy
is that. It's it's like they were a perennial national championship,
which they never were. But they never were. It's it's
the where you want to be versus recognizing who you are.
And you've got a guy who has proven he can win.
Whatever your personal thoughts are about his politics, about some
(26:23):
of the press conferences, whatever else. The guy win football games. Well,
they wanted to be where they're there are right now.
That's being the playoff. That's what they wanted, right. But
bouncing him, it's always the question if you're gonna fire
a coach, you better better damn well know that you
can find somebody better. Nobody said he was gonna get fired.
There was just a speculation out there, right, and that
that's where it begins, right. Someone wants that out some booster,
(26:47):
some executive whatever. Right, we know how this business works, alright,
they're gonna force him that. I'm not so sure that
was you know, that was the first thing out of
the agenda for Michigan. I know it. But it's just
a larger point that even if you're winning consistently doesn't
mean you're necessarily going to be safe. Now, in his case,
he may decide if they should win at all, and
(27:08):
we'll talk about the what a championship and how many
years later? Was he gone? Two years later? But that
that's you say, you get a short shelf life. That's crazy. Though.
There should be a rule that if you win a championship,
you get at least three years where you don't get fired.
It should be like automatic, no matter no matter what
you're doing behind the scenes or what the programs doing.
Oh you go for thirty just you be able to
(27:30):
keep your job. Geez. I mean, come on, man, you
wouldn't able to go over there. You get to keep
your job for three years. You're what's wrong with America.
He's already span here participation next three. I'm not saying
that's the way to go either, but you know, once
you've proven that you know, you super Bowl run up
(27:52):
or a national title and things have gone to hell.
Eventually you move on, let me repel. You get just
what your championship. Give me more than a year to
rebuild it. Geez, maybe you did something to cheese off
somebody about that. Aren't not always about what's going on
on the side, true, no doubt about that. They are
(28:13):
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We're still running up that hill, aren't he doing? Stairs?
The road to Swoll three is on as we can
(28:35):
be a lot of the tire Act studios. What you're
serious about this? I gotta be. I'm gonna be fifty
in October, so I gotta be a lean, mean fighting machine. No,
do you have MLC? What MLC? Oh? It's I had?
Are you talking midlife crisis? Ye oh you did? I
(28:57):
had mine last year. You know, I had a doctor
put a little of a scare into me. She kind
of shame to me a little bit. Really, you're only
this age What are you doing, man? What do you
want from me? I yelled back at im, I go
leave me alone. Well I didn't do that. I just
more was like, all right, you show me where in
any of my schedule I'm getting a normal person's night
(29:20):
of sleep while keeping the job that I do, entertaining
and informing the masses here all day. What are you talking?
What are you talking about? You're texting me at eight
thirty in the morning, so you just put it on silent.
I don't sleepy. Do you get eight hours sleep at night? Now? Oh?
I had done that since I was like five, and
then as soon as I broke my leg in high school,
(29:41):
that was the end of it. Man, I was you know,
they were telling me I was going to lose my legs.
So at that point I started drinking coffee and that
was the goodness. And here I am with all the
neuroses of your typical sports talk radio host. Hey coming
up in dead minutes. I think it's Brian No tonight
in for the great Ben Mallard year. I hate all
Dolphin fans and he's one of them. Him and VJ.
(30:03):
Husky hate all dolphin fans. Well, you aren't you forming
some unholy triumvirate. They all make me sick, except for myself.
I'm the I'm the only real Why do they make
you sick? Oh? They just have They just fool themselves
and they just don't not honest with themselves. And we'll
just remember hope is a dangerous thing. Well, we had
(30:26):
a lot of hope this year. That's well. But that's
the thing, right is you know Smith tries to diminish
what the Jets are now, saying, well, they're the Jets.
You knew this was gonna happen, like, no, no, no no,
I want them to move just because of Jason? Is
that wrong with me? Hate watching is a real thing,
whether it's the team or something. You know, I'm the
king of hate watching. No, I have no doubt you
(30:46):
might actually sit there with a scepter and a crown.
Who do you think roots against Plank for the last decade? Me? Geez, wow,
I know a lot of angst there, that's no question
about it. How about this Lori Jayne's office manager the
dental center in Louisville in a white elephant party. Right,
you have the gifts that go in and you swap
(31:08):
them and and then you you get what you get. Uh,
she had gotten a twenty five dollar t J Max
gift card. Someone else stole it. Oh not the TJ Max. Yeah,
so got stole it. So she had to go pick
another gift and she was upset that she didn't have
the TJ masting that you wanted. They got good deals there. Well,
so you got twenty five dollars and scratch off lottery
tickets from the Kentucky Lottery. Hundred seventy five thousand dollars,
(31:31):
aren't he year? Yeah? First ticket, she wins fifty bucks.
Second ticket, boom, all fifteen spots on the ticket, hundred
seventy five minus minus well wait minus? What you are
you really gonna get mad about the taxes? No, no, no,
nothing about the taxes. No, nothing about the taxes. You
(31:53):
gotta give something to the person that brought the president,
you know, Oh sure you do. Look look out cheap
you are? No blank dad. I'll buy percent you got
Mike no finder's feet because they picked the right scratcher.
If I'll buy him a sandwich if you want to,
If you want to gloves and you didn't give me
(32:13):
twenty why would I give you twenty dollars? You brought
it to the party. You know what, you should have
scratched drone damn self. You would have a big scratch
on your car. How about that? Well, and you're you're
just like Jason. He always talks about key in our car.
Thanks for doing that nationwide here across fo you're not
giving me twenty g If I'm key in your car,
(32:34):
then you owe me twenty How do I owe you twenty?
I want you put the prize in there as one
of those kind of ha ha ha. You'll get your
two bucks in a free ticket. Yeah, I got a
grand If you like, I would have kept it myself.
Well you didn't. Bad job by you, Sure it is.
I guess maybe I buy you a pottle of booze.
(32:55):
You need to give me more than that. Man, here's
a nice dinner. Don't you take a mendis? Don't you
have to give like five hundred to everybody that is
the party to Wow, you're really you're Joe generosity. I
get it. I appreciate you, and we've celebrated your with you. Yeah, well,
but you know it's the spirit of the thing, alright, everybody,
(33:16):
it's twenty five or less? Okay, I put in twenty
five scratchers. I'm gonna make sure if I buy a
scratch off for somebody, you can't win more than twenty
five thousand or something like that. What's the top prize bucks?
Just completely terrible. It's like, look, you want the great price,
Good for you, You're the big winner. Hey Dallas, Uh
(33:40):
Tennessee Tomorrow at Tennessee, Mike Brabel operations shut down for
the squad. Malik Willis under center Ryan Tannehill. Let's face it,
he's one of the guys that will be on the outs.
Been in the league a while two thousand twelve draft class,
so one of those potential destinations. As we start mocking
mocking up photos and photo shopping Derek Carr into random uniforms. Uh.
(34:01):
Just Tennessee still put up a fight with Hassan Haskins.
I don't know if they'll put a bunch of a fight,
but I like Dallas and me. Dallas at the number
five seats. They do have a chance to catch San Francisco,
though I'm not so sure Dallas, even though that would
give him a home game. I think they kind of
want to play Tampa. If you had your choice, would
you rather play Tampa on the road or the New
York Giants at home. You know that's the question there.
(34:24):
Um though the Giants aren't very good either. I don't
know if they'll catch San Francisco, but it is a
big game for Dallas, so we'll see what happens. I
think i'd rather and it's I'm never trying to avoid anybody.
I'm just going to but in the end, like, would
I rather take my chances that Daniel Jones isn't ready
for prime time? Right? That Ryan Jensen being back at
practice means that offensive lines a little bit better, and
(34:47):
maybe I could buy a little bit more in the
run game and balance for Tom Brady. I think I'd
rather fight the Giants. I agree, Yeah, I agree. Actually,
they're gonna have a lot to play for the Giants.
Dallas twelve and a half point favorites tomorrow. Are they
are covering? Wow, that's a lot of thirty nine and
a half is the total? Arty, I'd rather go with
the Cowboys in the y over is the way I'm going.
(35:08):
Nicely done. He's already spann your he'll be back again
on Friday. Arty, Piece of Love, funny, Thanks for sitting
in thin Bryan No, it's coming up next as he
sits in for Ben Maller. Thank you to all y'all
for being part of our extended family. You have a
lot of options. We appreciate seeing with you. See you
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