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January 25, 2025 41 mins

Jason and Mike debate if Raider Nation is back after hiring Pete Carroll. Jerry Jones fired Mike McCarthy for Brian Schottenheimer LOL. The 49ers are bringing Robert Saleh back as defensive coordinator. And Jason Smith and Mike Harmon give out their NFC/AFC Championship Game picks!!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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(00:53):
it broke about fifteen minutes before we got on the
air tonight. The Dallas Cowboys have hired Brian Schottenheimer as
their new head coach. He gets a four year deal.
And before we get into the Cowboys aspect of it, right,
we talked about Pete Carroll a few minutes ago because
we had a we had a bunch of moves in
the last twenty four hours. Right, the Jacksonville Jaguars hired

(01:16):
Liam Cohen is their head coach. One and you woke
up this morning and found out that, oh okay, hey,
Pete Carroll's back in the NFL. The Raiders get him tonight.
The Dallas Cowboys go and get Brian Schottenheimer. There is
one opening left. It is the New Orleans Saints. And
we mentioned this earlier in the show of the one
of the big effects of this this year where the

(01:41):
openings and the candidates aren't great, right, I mean, like
I've said, look, I like Aaron Glenn. Is he the
greatest candidate in the world. No? Is he the best
guy out of who's available? For the Jets one hundred percent?
Pete Carroll for the Raiders one hundred percent, love that,
Ben Johnson for the for the Bears, one hundred percent.
But if you if you're out there, like if you're
a coach that's out there for a head coaching job,

(02:03):
you got all the bottom feeders in the league that
are trying to find a head coach, and hundreds of
guys are getting interviewed. If you're out there as a
head coach and you don't get a job this time around,
like you're not getting one, Like it's this is the
time because other years there's going to be better candidates,
there's better guys to go get. You're not getting a.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Job, well, Jason, just remember how quickly this thing changes
on you. Lak who also lost a job today, Bobby Slowick,
who was everybody's All American a year ago. Now he
didn't pick the offensive line that was blocking so nor
did he actually go in Galilee tank Down or any
of the wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yet he found himself on the outs in Houston today.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
So if you don't get that, you're done. And this
brings us to a bigger point because now after the
dance that went on that we thought, oh maybe he's
holding out home. Well, what you're seeing now with all
of these openings being filled and it's just the Saints
that are left now, Bill Belichick has done like if

(03:08):
you thought you know and I thought, okay, he's leaving
the door open throughout this cycle. This is why the
buyout for at North Carolina wasn't that great, because hey,
there's a lot of openings here and if I'm either
getting back in now or I'm not getting back in
right we said, this is the off season. Belichick's getting
in now or he's not. He had a chance to

(03:29):
get a gig last year, but the Falcons. Again, he
had a two interview lead on everybody else and didn't
get the job. You could have had him last off season,
you didn't get him, could have had him this off season.
Not getting him, especially this off season when a name
like Bill Belichick looks sexy and looks like whoa wait
a minute, maybe Belichick now just because the other candidates

(03:50):
aren't sexy. It's a non sexy coach beauty pageant. That's
kind of what's going on. So this year, like Belichick,
this was his chance to get it, and now there's
one opening. It's the Saints. There's no talk that they're
interested in him. You know, they already talked to Mike McCarthy,
and if they get Mike McCarthy, they're lucky. You know,
that's the guy they should wind up getting. But Belichick, now, okay,

(04:11):
I think you can sign that contract. Because he still
hadn't signed his contract with North Carolina. I think he
can sign that deal because now it's official. He tried
to hang out for this entire coaching cycle. It didn't
work out. I mean he's done. He's now coaching North
Carolina until he's done coaching in football, Like his opening
his window open to the NFL is now being nailed shut. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
I think some of the stuff that goes with Belichick
is the larger idea of all, right, are you bringing in.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
Just a coach?

Speaker 3 (04:42):
Will he be willing to just coach versus putting his
stamp on every level of your organization and structurally changing
how you want to go about business, Because while not
every guy has the same level of hubris of Jerry Jones,
you're not becoming a football team owner or it's my
majority owner without having a little bit of ego, cockiness

(05:06):
and bravado about you, which means you're not handing over
the rains, particularly a guy that you don't know how
long that next act would be, right before you really
turn the table on him and he's done, or he
demonstrates demonstratively that it's just not a fit and you
move on.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
I do like that.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
All the details of his North Carolina contract got released
after he officially signed it. All the different bonus structures
are fun. Oh yeah, one hundred thousand dollars expense allowance. Yeah,
one hundred thousand dollars bonus for ACC Coach of the Year,
two hundred and fifty thousand National Coach of the Year.
That seems kind of low. One hundred fifty thousand dollars

(05:45):
bonus for making a bowl game, Okay, fine, three point
fifty if you're in a non college football playoff Tier
one elite bowl game. And here's how it's defined, Mayo Bowl,
Gator Bowl, oh our pop Tarts bull and that it
keeps going all you know, seven hundred and fifty thousand
bonus for making the college football Playoff one point seventy

(06:09):
five if they won the national title. So all of
that is where we get to that ten million. But
the devil in the details. But yeah, just in terms
of what you're looking for in a coach, you want
to coach. You're not looking for someone to come and
do it full takeover of your squad. So that's you know,
part of the conversation for those that are new to
the show high or may have missed prior discussions of

(06:30):
why maybe Bill Belichick, while on paper and his resume
looks great, might not have been the fit that you
wanted to go all in on.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean, look, don't we talked about it last week
when the story about Belichick's contract came up, that he
still hadn't signed it, right, and Michael Lombardi is talking
about it. Belichick is here, he's his hype man, right,
he's not going anywhere. What about your contract? Oh, I
haven't signed my contract yet either, right, So what do
we say, Hey, this contract's got to get signed by
next week or you know that he really wants to stay.

(07:02):
And it got all the way till just a few
hours ago, just probably sixteen hours ago, that he signed.
And I don't think it's any coincidence that. Okay, I'm
finally going to put pen to paper knowing, hey, what
happened today. Raiders hired their coach, Cowboys hired their coach.
Is one left? I'm not getting the Saints. Okay, now
I'm signing, Like, I don't think this is something that

(07:24):
is unrelated. Where by the way, Belichick went till today
to sign his deal, right, because this story was like
last Thursday and Friday, and I remember saying he's got
to sign this thing by Monday, because now it's a thing.
Right now, Why haven't you signed your deal? Why have
you signed all this out there with that, but it
went all the way till Thursday, and he's still out
recruiting and flipping players and I think the latest count

(07:46):
was I think fifteen players he's able to flip through.
But I don't think this is unrelated at all. That. Okay,
I was holding out for one last go and now
he knows that that's it, right, So I mean this
played out in a weird weigh this off season. But yeah,
now you can close that door on Belichick because even
if he even if he wins at North Carolina for

(08:06):
the next couple of years, is someone gonna say, Hey,
this guy's been out of the NFL for four years,
let's bring him back like that. That's not gonna happen
like that. This is not where, Hey, a coach gets fired,
he goes back to college and he coaches well for
a couple of years, becomes a hot candidate again because
he's fifty years old of it, like Belichick is, like

(08:26):
he's in his mid seventies. In me be his mid seventies.
It's gonna be away from the game for four years,
away from the NFL game for three or four years.
You don't just jump back into it. Pete Carroll was
away from the game for a year and he was
really incredibly fortunate to jump back in. So with Belichick
being away three year, three four years, like, that's it, man,
that sunk him for the rest of his career. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I think when you get down to it, we now
put the epitaph to it, right, one more paragraph on
the Wikipedia page that it's all signed and dated and
everything else. I was wondering with college contracts, you know,
do they have to get ratified by some board?

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Right?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
You agree in principle to a bunch of stuff, and
then it may sit on a stack of paper. Hey,
can you sign that We're not meeting again for three weeks? Okay,
just go away.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
We're good. You know what. Listen, I'll be back on campus.
We're dedicating the science building. That's when I'll sign the contract.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Like the next session of Congress, like we really want
to pass that bill.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Sorry, this is the last day. We're now off on break.
We'll see you in six weeks.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I don't know we'll see you the regents have all
gone home. I don't know what you expect to do.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
So, yeah, it's it's tough to see though, right, because
we've talked about this a little bit, right, the mortality
of it all, your professional shelf life. Owing to the
Pete Carroll conversations a couple couple of minutes ago, you know,
when we're talking about you know, whether age catches you
or they want to go to a cheaper option or

(09:53):
whatever the case may be. That for Bill Belichick not
being an NFL head coach, like it's it's the end
of a long era, and you know, he's just always
been part of your adult life and now it's not there.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
And think about this, if you're Belichick, right, think about
this for a second. He's got to sit back today
and just go, Okay, who got hired? Guy got hired?
Who was going to sign a contract to stay the
offensive coordinator? I have no power, but he's able to say,
fire the GM and I'll come back. And Jacksonville fires
the GM and he comes back. Pete Carroll gets a

(10:29):
bleeping job. The guy's older than me and he gets
a job. Unbelievable, unbelievable. Brian Schottenheimer got a job over me.
Brian Schottenheimer got a job over me. I beat his
dad every time that we played against him. Brian Schottenheimer
gets a job over me. This is one of those
sobering moments as well for Belichick, Like, Okay, I realize

(10:50):
the NFL. I mean, I've done there. Man. These are
the guys that I lost out to. I lost out
to a guy that nobody else wanted to talk to,
no one else interviewed Brian Schottenheimer. This is who I
lost out to for the Cowboys job. Because you know,
Belichick would have loved that would have been his number
one death. The fact that guy called the Jets. I mean,
come on, but you know he would have loved to
show up in Dallas with Jerry and all of these things.

(11:12):
And you know, but of course Jerry's not going to
hire somebody who is going to be a big voice,
a big enough voice to compete with him. But I mean,
that's a job he would have absolutely have left for.
And Brian Schottenheimer gets the job over him. Like Belichick,
it just doesn't take you very long to go from
he's the greatest coach you've ever seen to yeah, we're
all finished with him. Thirty one teams are finished with

(11:34):
having him in the NF.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, but think about that pairing, just for a moment,
with me, will you? With Jerry Jones and Bill Belichick,
this would be the equivalent of all of the great
wrestlers managed long long ago by Bobby Heenan or Jim Cornett, right,
Jim Cornette with the tennis racket. You watch any of
the documentaries, any of them, Jim Cornett's gonna show up

(11:58):
because the guy's a historian of wrestling. But he rolls
on for about four minutes and then the wrestler says
like two words or grunts, which has been Belichick's whole
thing in press conferences forever. Now he's in the media
and he's got lots to say, always did on his
weekly show that he was getting paid a bunch of
money for. But generally in press conferences, he would have
been one of those eighties wrestlers hoodie up, ready to

(12:20):
go fighting ring.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
It would have been Jerry Jones would have been nowhere.
He would have been like three feet from Belichick at
all times, like every press conference, coaching the games, like
he would have been just right then and there's Belichick
and there's there's Jerry right next to him, like, Hey,
I'm not losing any of the spotlight here Wherever he goes,
I go, Andre, We're gonna live together. You know it's
gonna be me and and and and his him and

(12:43):
his girlfriend, and it's gonna it's gonna be like big brother.
And CBS is gonna want it. Well, CBS has the
AFC games, but you know they're gonna wanna we have
going on and all the all the parties we have,
but Friday Night and the Jones Belichick House is gonna
be off the hook. I'll tell you that much. I mean,
he would have been any more than three feet from
Belichick at all times, never any further than that. Just

(13:05):
to keep a handle on situation. Exit out about a
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We'll have more on Schottenheimer to the Cowboys and more
on why Pete Carroll and the Raiders both won in
a big way today. Plus we'll previeu the AFC and

(13:25):
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Speaker 2 (14:33):
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Speaker 1 (14:48):
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Live from the Tireraq dot Com Studios. Brian Schottenheimer is
your new head coach of the Dallas.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
About the Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
Sorry, Mike, why are you so mad about it?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Why does this bother you? I'm not mad about it?
Why would it say? I'm mad about you? Not bothering anything.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
You should be drinking and celebrating because if it's only
for one night, a team sucks worse than yours.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, dude, I've been drinking since you're noting of the show.
It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
Are you.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
The party I'm going to have? I'm already having a
I already got the keg is coming. Everything is going
to be good. No, No, it's it's it's actually gonna
be a corsah.

Speaker 5 (15:35):
I don't think they're come in cakes.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
No, it's gonna be a party ball that has what
party about.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Fifty careful on the West coast? About that?

Speaker 3 (15:42):
I thought you were talking about, you know, getting one
of those firesiders.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Fire and vinegar yeah, listen, no, look I am. I
am not unhappy because, yes, the Cowboys continue to show
that no matter what, we're just trapped in this endless
cycle of uninspiring coaching hires that are always going to
be fought by Jerry Jones, that are never gonna be

(16:08):
able to put their stamp on the team, and the
Cowboys are going to just continue to do the same
thing year after year. I'll tell you if I'm Micah Parsons,
I say, yeah, you know what, let's not worry about
a long term contract extension here, I'll play it out
and I'll go to free agency, Like what am I doing?
You know, the Cowboys have gone. This is why I
feel bad for Cowboys fans, which shows me maybe I've
been drinking on a Friday night. I feel bad for

(16:30):
Cowboys fans because I'm like, they've been used to a
level of excellence, and yes, it's been embarrassing for the
last few years with what they've not been able to achieve.
But this is to the point where, man, like, that
whole Cowboys image is just is just gone. Now It's
been replaced by you know, some of y' all. The
Cowboys stink and everybody's celebrating at it's been replaced by Boy.

(16:52):
The Cowboys make it tough to even to stay interesting
because every year it's just, hey, here's a head coach
that's not really exciting, and here's here's a future that's
not really exciting because we know how it's gonna go
for them. Some years they'll be good enough to win
ten to eleven games, they'll lose in the first round
of the playoffs. Other years they'll be right around five hundred.
They'll disappoint, but hey, we're could be back at it

(17:12):
next year and nothing changes. This has been the Cowboys
for the better part of thirty years. Like I could
you could have left the Cowboys, like you could have
been frozen in a in a some kind of cryogenic
chamber or you know, like in some kind of science
fiction movie where hey, we saw this guy out he
was stuck in Alaska. But now because of global warming,
look at this, like you could have gone after that

(17:34):
the last Cowboys championship they win, and they win in
ninety five. Ah, this is great. And then you could
wake the guy up now and say, hey, what did
I miss? Well, I could tell you in the last
thirty years what you missed? What every year you guys
were not bad, but boy, you're not even close to
stiff in a Super Bowl because Jerry Jones is an
awful owner. Well what else am I missed? Now? That's

(17:54):
kind of it's guy. I mean, I could tell you
about Dez Bryant's almost touchdown and you had parcels for
a couple of years. Oh how did that go? Yell?
Only a couple of years. Jerry Jones didn't like it.
But you know, basically that's it. Like you won that
last Super Bowl, then you were mediocre. You had Tony
Romo for a while. Now he's a broadcaster. If des
Bryant didn't try to hit the pylon with with a touchdown,

(18:17):
maybe you could have gone further. But that's really been it.
That's been your highlights right there. That that's your Cowboys seasons.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
That about sums it up.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
And then we'll we'll show you some more Michael Irvin,
Emmett Smith and Troy Aikman highlights, and we'll try to
exclude anything Troy said about the team the last year
or so. Look, truth hurts sometimes, ruth. Truth hits everybody. Uh,
and for the Cowboys, Yeah, they're running in place at

(18:45):
this point. So long as Jerry's there, you're gonna have
the opportunity to play some meaningful football and probably not
get over the hump.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
That sound familiar.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
It's right in line with what Baltimore and Pittsburgh are do.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
So how are they any worse?

Speaker 1 (19:01):
What's the ai Jerry Jones? Get ready for meaningless primetime games? Right? No? Right?

Speaker 4 (19:10):
But like there's there's just so much of it.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Unfortunately, that's also what we've talked about as the league
as a whole. I love my two seventy two of
regular season and everything in the postseason. Doesn't mean that
there's not a lot of bad football that I'm watching.
I still love it. I just love it a little
less than than good games. Right, And with the Cowboys
down the stretch, they fought, right, they were fun to

(19:35):
watch the final six weeks of the season or thereabouts
because they were not an easy out there.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
There looked to be just a different way.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Whether it's desperation and you were gonna run on fumes
if the season was a day longer.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
I don't know, but I like the fire and the
belly there.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Now. Could you attribute it to.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Trying to save Mike McCarthy's job, maybe might have been
trying to save their own.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I'll tell you it's it's it's a case of what
the Cowboys of. It's not like they're on the same wheel,
because a wheel would imply that they get to the
top of the wheel and then you just just are
down you come back up. It's like they're like a
tank wheel like where because the tank is like is
like short and fat along the ground. Like they get
to the bottom and they're going along the bottom and

(20:22):
then they get to the top really fast, because how
a tank goes, and they don't get to a really top.
They just kind of just get a little bit off
the ground and then they go straight and then it
goes straight. You don't really go anywhere, and then they're
back down on the ground like when you vision how
a tank goes. That's really the circle or the cycle
the Dallas Cowboys are going through. Not a circle, because
a circle will get you to the top. No, it's
more one of those where it's just along the ground

(20:44):
and we come back and go and we're back. And
that's what the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Are dooming to repeat you like the continuous track. Yeah,
the Caterpillar. But we were talking about a little bit earlier.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Yeah, I like that. It's never gonna change. That's how
it goes.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Look, you're you're still moving ahead, just ever so slowly. Yeah,
they're still going to be able to sell out the
party deck of your stadium, okay, because there's only like
twenty five thirty bucks to get in there. Yeah, you know,
because everybody's now getting on the the Orioles thing I
sent you guys, Right, hey, look at concessions, Like all
teams should do this, Like, no, they shouldn't. That does

(21:20):
not maximize revenue. It makes people happy. But they were
showing up anyway, But.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
Why should we worry about it. They're still showing up.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
They're still showing up. We could be terrible.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Guess what, They're still gonna have a giant red Kettel
and a game on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Now to a move that was great, right, And I
know this is gonna pain in frost per because we
have to. I have to say good things about the Raiders.
I mean, it's it's a it's a crazy night tonight
what I really like. But the Raiders got Pete Carroll today, which,
go by the way, congratulations having that headline for eight
hours and now you know Brian Schottenheimer's taking that away
from you. But Carol gets a job with the Raiders,

(21:59):
and he gets a three year contract, and this works
on so many levels. I love this move for the
Raiders because it's just like the Jets, where you know, hey,
the Raiders win today like they won the day they want.
They They don't have many wins over the course of
the year, and I just keep seeing Aid and O'Connell
calling signals and the ball hitting with the helmet. They

(22:20):
don't win that much. But the Jets won the other
day because in a year in which their opening is
not that great and the players out there are and
the coaches out there weren't great, they got the best guy.
They got a former star who knows the team, knows
what it's like to play for the owner. He calls
it his dream job. He's a well respected defensive coordinator
who can build a culture. Right. They got the right

(22:41):
guy for the team and Aaron Glenn and the Raiders
got the right guy. And Pete Carroll. I don't care
that he's seventy four. The guy's got more energy than
me and I'm twenty five. Years younger than him. You
the deal is is that the Raiders needed somebody to
stop the backsliding. Like that was the thing. Like that
should be hashtag stop the backsliding, right because the Raiders

(23:02):
are a team that every year you look and they're
somewhere on a mountain trying to get to the top.
And you start seem at the beginning of the season
in one place and you look away, you look back
at the end and they're actually lower than they were
at the beginning. How did you not keep climbing up? Well,
we had a couple of things happened. There was some
mud and I slipped and fell and all that. I
fell asleep. Like the Raiders, they can't get out of
the way. They just keep backsliding. And Pete Carroll is

(23:23):
that guy to stop that momentum, to say, okay, stop,
I'm building this team. I know what it is, I
know what we need to do. And he's got the
cachet coming in as a Super Bowl coach, His energy,
the excitement level is going to be big. You know,
he's going to make a move for a quarterback. I
said it was okay to go get Sam Darld. Why not?
But Carol is someone who is stopping the backsliding. Now,

(23:46):
how far they go, that's the big thing, because the
division is great, right, you have three really good teams
ahead of you, but at least the Raiders are gonna
stop from being that, Hey, we just embarrass ourselves with
all kinds of stuff over the course of the season.
And here's a quarters were signing and what we're trying
to do. Like Pete Carroll gives them a plan. And
I don't know the Pete Carroll's going to be the
head coach to see the end of the plan, but

(24:07):
for the next three years, it's gonna be let's get there.
Let's get the Raiders out from where we are, which
is the laughing stock of the NFL, and let's get
it to the point where we were a few years
ago when Derek Carr was young and ascending that, hey,
we might be a team that can make some noise
respect us and bring the legend of the Silver and
Black back and bring it to the Las Vegas for
the first time. Like Pete Carroll's that guy to do it.

(24:28):
There's nobody else out there. And the Raiders got lucky.
The Raiders were so incredibly lucky that ay, okay, of
all the bad candidates, we have the guy that's perfect
for us because there's no better fit than Pete Carroll
to come in and do what he needs to do.
This is it's a knocking. Raiders don't win a lot,
just like the Jets. Raiders don't win a lot, but
they want today.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Are you bringing spy tech as your GM proof of concept?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
What's been going on in Tampa history?

Speaker 1 (24:54):
Right?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Former teammate A Brady, We've done this CV for him
all the way through. You've got some decent component parts
on defense, got to shore up the run game. Of course,
you got Bowers and now you go find a quarterback.
But you're in a difficult division that you stipulate to that.
But all of that to say that you're just trying
to build an infrastructure. You're trying to get yourself back

(25:18):
to stability since two thousand Well, let's go back to
two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, because it
is funny just because Lane Kiffen was the head coach
seventeen years ago, this seems, you know, impossible. Then you
have Tom Cable, Hugh Jackson, Dennis Allad, Tony Sperano, Jack

(25:38):
del Rio, Gruden, Morgruden, Bisacia, Josh McDaniels, Antonio Pierce. That's
a lot of coaches, right, and a revolving door, spin
the wheel. Let's see what we land on next. So
in this case, at least it seems in the moment
that they've gotten to Mark Davis the other owners there

(26:00):
in Las Vegas, and said, all right, we need to
get off the merry go round. We need to get
out of the you know, giant and booze wheel over
by the link and everything else that we and we
gotta slow this down, and we gotta figure that by
the way, booz wheels a hell of a time, be
really careful.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
On it because it goes fast, as it were.

Speaker 3 (26:21):
But the idea that you get a guy in Pete
Carroll who has shown that you can build, whether it's
at USC, whether it's at at the Seattle Run with
John Schneider, building as they did from the ground up
with a lot of young talent. We'll see what they
do at six, whether they stay there, whether they parlay

(26:43):
that into more picks and really try to build out
with this year's draft. Curious a free agency, all of
those things to say, you could have done a lot worse.
I'm intrigued as hell by it, right, and still all
the energy. And I found the list of Pete Carroll quotes,
and I could read from any one of them, but
you know this one, since he's gonna fight Harbaugh twice

(27:05):
a year. Maybe literally, it isn't about the words you say.
It's about the energetic message that you send. Borderline relentless enthusiasm.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Borderline boy, relentless button. It's it's borderline relentlessly like he
wants you right.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Up there, and then Harbaugh usually pushes you over the
goal line.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Now, now we're gonna get that battle.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, no, hey, look, and I'm excited because the silver
and black Air Monarchs from Nike are gonna look, you know,
him up and down that sideline wearing those I'm gonna say,
where can you get those silver and black Air monarchs.
That's gonna look awesome? Because, right, the air monarchs only
come because I have a big, super wide ass foot,
like the air monarchs only come in the white with
the blue. But you know they're gonna have Air Monarchs,

(27:49):
you know, especially made so I could get I'm like, yeah,
the silver and black Air Monarchs are gonna look sweet. Dude,
you'll have the first day. No, no, no, I'm gonna have
booties around him, like like Mark Wahlberg at the end
of Booties. No no, no, like when Mark on Friday
Night Baby. Yeah, no, no, no, no no, at the
end of uh uh, what do you call it? Department

(28:12):
the departed where he had them because when he was
gonna sorry spoiler, when he was gonna shoot Matt Damon,
he had the booties on to not give any leave
any fibers, like, I'll make sure I wear that around
him before I you know, before I I wind up
getting them dirty because I was looking took sweet Man
silver and black uh air Monarch's huke Man. I can't wait,
booties can't wait?

Speaker 5 (28:31):
You said, Jason, there was no better higher than Pete
Carroll for the Raiders. Yeah, who's completely disagreeable.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Who's better?

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Brandon Staley? I should have hired him.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Hey, what's gonna happen? Well, we're gonna go for it
on fourth down? For no reason known to mankind. You
thought Dan Campbell was crazy going for it on fourth down? Wait,
don't we start going for it on fourth that.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
I'm the first quarter Wait, you've got a quarterback too, oh,
I have the perfect quarterback.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Who do you got? Only one guy sucks this much?

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Aaron Rodgers, Uh Rogers, Devonte Hadash And now I gotta
go back to the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
I just did so much to get out of there.
Now I gotta go back. A couple of Jacobs comes back.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
In Rewind.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Exit Out Vout of Fresco, Exit Swollen Dove. The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carbon live from the tirerack dot
Com studios, time out to find out what's trading in
the wide world of sports. From Anders what's been called
the ken Stabler of Fox Sports Radio because he's got
a mustache. It's Steve de Seger. He had a full beard.
Thank you. You'll sometimes have a full beard.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Because it's radio, not TV.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Let's see at it. In the NBA, we.

Speaker 6 (29:41):
Had three games tonight. Memphis won it's fifth in a row,
one without John Moran, he was out due to illness.
Grizzlies beat New Orleans one thirty nine, one twenty six
Jaron Jackson twenty nine points, seven assists. Portland won its
fourth straight game one O two ninety seven at Charlotte,
which is now eleven and thirty for the Hornets. LaMelo
Ball was out with a wrist in th Teammate Miles
Bridge Bridges was out with a bad back, and Philadelphia

(30:04):
ended a seven game losing streak beating Cleveland won thirty
two to one twenty nine, despite thirty seven points from
Donovan Mitchell. Evan Mobley of the Caves missed a fourth
straight game with a string calf. Cleveland's record was thirty
six and seven. Utah's John Collins, averaging eighteen points a game,
is out for Saturday's contest due to illness. The Celtics

(30:24):
in the NBA store sales are now number one in
team merchandise so far this season, Lakers number two, Nicks
number three in college hoops, number ten ranked Marquette beat Villanova,
eleventh rank Perdue pounded Michigan ninety one sixty four. Perdue
led after the first nine minutes twenty nine to nine.
Iowa held off Penn State seventy six to seventy five,

(30:45):
even though Iowa failed to score in the last three minutes.
UCLA has won the late game on FS one sixty
five sixty at Washington, and in women's hoops, number two
South Carolina was a winner against number five LSU sixty
six fifty six. LSU had been twenty and oh in
the NHL, just four games victories for Winnipeg and the Islanders.
Dallas at holmby Vegas four to three, Tampa Bay in overtime,

(31:07):
one at Chicago for three Yes. The Dallas Cowboys are
promoting Brian Schott and Ivort a head coach news conference
on that Monday. The Raiders are hiring Pete Carroll as
head coach. Raiders haven't won a playoff game since the
two thousand and two season. New Orleans still has a
head coach. Opening Robert sala is returning to San Francisco
as defensive coordinator. The Texans fired offensive coordinator Bobby Slowick

(31:29):
after two seasons. Las Vegas will host college football's national
title game after the twenty twenty sixth season. After next season,
it'll be held in Miami. South Carolina gave coach Shane
Beemer at extension through twenty thirty. Ohio State running back
Quinchahn Judkins will declare for this year's NFL Draft, as
will as teammate wide receiver a Mecca Abuca. And the

(31:50):
Australian Open Women's final is late tonight. American Madison Keys
against number one Arena Sabalanca, three thirty am Eastern.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve, though to show you
again the positivity I am full of tonight, Mike Harmon.
Robert saw that and this happened. Right after Brian Schottenheimer
got the gig with the Cowboys, Robert Sala agreed to
return to San Francisco to be the defensive coordinator there.
According to Ian Rappaport NFL Network, he had told Kyle

(32:18):
Shanahan and John Lynch, if I don't get a head
coaching job, I will come back as the DC. The
two plays he interviewed in the last twenty four hours
Jacksonville in Dallas both filled their slots. He's back as
a DC and he's going to do great, and no addendum,
no fingers crossed. He's gonna do great because he's a
great defensive coordinator right his as system that he builds,

(32:38):
you know, fifteen defensive lineman in and out of the game.
It worked. It's how he got the head coaching opportunity
with the Jets. Was he a good head coach? No,
he wasn't. He wasn't because he couldn't build a culture.
He didn't know what he was doing offensively, and worse,
he didn't know that. He didn't know what he was
doing offensively, and everything ran horribly. He was still defense first.
Don't worry about what we're doing on offense. Just get

(32:59):
the defensive lead, and the defense is gonna close it out. Sorry,
that doesn't work. You can't see the game through that
defensive a lens and be able to win as a
head coach, but as a DC. Yes, and this is
a great move for the Niners who had a really
disappointing year. Yes, there's gonna be some fluctuation. Lots of
guys are gonna get let go because they have a
lot of guys making a lot of money. But he'll

(33:21):
come in, He'll find the right guys, that great rotation
on the defensive line, and it will be a much
better year for the Niners next year. Sala going to
the Niners is a great kick.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Well on some level, maybe a little less turmoil in
terms of your negotiations and preparation for the following season. Something.
Maybe sometimes you have to learn just the hardest of ways.
As they did, negotiations dragging on deep, much like we
talked about with the Rams and Stafford last year. What
are we doing? Are you inter you out right now?

(33:51):
Ocean's eleven style but for Robert Sala Yeah, defensive corner.
Plenty of examples through the years, offensive and defense of
folks that were brilliant on either side of the ball.
But then trying to manage everything. This is where you
need one of those new fangled college football gms. Oh wait,
they already have those in the NFL. But someone to

(34:12):
manage your staff and clock management, whatever else. But cue
the John Sebastian. Welcome back your dreams, where your ticket out?
Welcome back to that same old place. Who that you
laughed about?

Speaker 1 (34:26):
A mister Cott, you have have Liverworst, Yeah, but with
liver Worst on a sandwich. Jason Smith Mike Harmon live
from the tyrack dot Com Studios. I gotta explain to
millennials what liverwurst is coming up next. We finished with
a flourish Mike and I give you our AFC and
NFC Championship game picks. Who's headed to the Super Bowl.
We'll tell you next right here, Jason and Mike.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm. Eastern seven
pm Pacific Big Game coverage just presented by Oltesla oh Prevolast.
This is football's biggest moment, under the lights, on the screen,
where we come together to celebrate the best of the best.

(35:07):
This is more than a game.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
Be there, Fox Sports Radio, the Jason Smith Show with
my best friend Mike Carmon, I'm not on snapface and
all that Lifromthetirack dot Com studios. So the Cowboys have
their head coach, the Raiders have their head coach, Jaguars
had their head coach, Jets have their head coach. Everyone's

(35:31):
got their head coach, well except for the Saints. Yeah,
but that's okay, that's fine. They're gonna hire Peyton Manning,
who'll be coaching arch Manning in the year. Everything's gonna work.
So with that happening, let's turn our attention to the
games on Sunday, NFC and AFC championship games. Who's going
to the Super Bowl? Time for our official picks. Let's

(35:53):
start with the start of the jv game, because you know,
the varsity game is a you know, the Commanders and
the Eagles. I would pick the Commanders if I thought
the formula was there for them to win. And that
is just how they beat the Lions. Because the Commanders
are not as good a team as Detroit, They're not
as good a team as Philadelphia. They need a lot
of turnovers and they need big chunk plays on offense. Right,

(36:15):
that's what they had to beat the Lions. They were
able to do that because the high flying Lions up
and down the field made mistakes. Jared Goff made mistakes uncharacteristic,
but when you throw the football like that, you're going
to make mistakes from time to time. Your defense, which
was decent enough earlier in the year, too many injuries.
You couldn't stop Jaden Daniels, even though Daniel's supporting cast

(36:38):
is not that great. So, yeah, there's the formula for
the upset that's not gonna be there this time. Right,
even with Jalen Hurts, however limited he is, he's gonna
play with a brace. They're gonna run Saquon Barkley the
entire day, and they're gonna control the football and keep
it away from Jade and Daniels. The Eagles offensive line
is going to control the day, and it's gonna be Barkley, Barkley, Barkley, Barkley.

(37:02):
The game will be close because they're not gonna try
to run away with things. I don't know that they can.
But they're gonna control the ball. They're not gonna turn
it over. Jalen Hurts is not gonna throw three picks.
It's not gonna happen. Defensively, Eagles are a much better
team defensively than the Lions are. It's gonna be tough
sledding for the Commanders to get up and down the field.

(37:22):
I love the under in this game. It's gonna be
a bit more of a battle, but the Eagles will win.
They'll either be kneeling on the football at the end
or a big defensive stop that's gonna do it. I'll
take the Eagles twenty to.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Fourteen spread sitting at six, the total at forty seven
for this one. The Hurts knee is certainly in curiosity
and seeing what they can rev up in the passing game.
But yeah, Washington's not suddenly going to figure out how
to stop the runs. So between Barkley, gain Well and
whatever you can get out of Hurts on the ground,

(37:55):
I think it's too much. You know, we talked about
the Lions, the attrition on defense uh, and big play
potential downfield.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
They also didn't have the fiercest of that pass rush
up front, which had been the hallmark early in the season. Uh,
whereas the Eagles can get after it a little bit,
even with some injuries of their own, and that secondary
too much. I can't wait to see how they match
up and try to neutralize Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
You do have Diami Brown, you do have zach Ertz.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Fun little chess match uh to go on here, But
I'll take the Eagles, Sirianni and company.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
I picked them before the season.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Can't go away now, stick with you guys, although I
gotta say, like for chaos purposes, boy, this would be fun.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Would it would know? I am completely with you, I
am completely with you. It would be fun if the
Commanders made it all the.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Way with twenty four to twenty your final.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
And especially how much would would would Bear's nation hate it?
We picked the wrong guy? We'd be playing played.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yes, we've already seen a lot of those, and then
immediately back by well, maybe Ben Johnson will make it
the better again.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I think there's too much attention on the officiating for
the Chiefs to bank on getting bailed out by the
refs when Mahomes either gets hit or doesn't get hit
in the pocket.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
You're funny.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
So I think there's too much attention on it. If
the Bills defense was better, I would pick the Bills.
But Kansas City's gonna do what they need to do,
what they do at home all the time. They'll be
able to move the ball on Buffalo enough, and they're
going to own the fourth quarter. And I've seen this
movie alive. Maybe you get a big call, maybe you

(39:35):
get a big call from the officials. But Travis Kelcey
is coming on like he's a modern day Roger Clemons,
where at the end of his career Roger was like, listen,
I just want to, you know, play like half the
season and get pat. I want to stay home and
hang out with my family. Like that's he's invisible for
the regular season. When the season ends, in the playoffs start,
Look at Kelsey's He's back to being the best tight

(39:57):
end in the NFL. Right, he's hot. You there's that
big safety injury right smack dab in the middle. For
the Bills, it's going to be a tough, tough fourth
quarter for them to navigate. The Chiefs will get the
points they need to because they always do. You gotta
win in case, you gotta be great, and the Bills
are fantastic, but I don't think the defense is great enough.
Better defense, I would pick the Bills, but I've seen

(40:20):
this Kansasity blueprint enough and I'll take Kansas City and
the over. I love the under in the NFC. Give
me Kansas City and the over to move on to
the Super Bowl. Give me the Chiefs thirty to twenty four.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Chiefs minus two forty eight and a half is your tonal.
Pick the Bills twenty seven to twenty four. So I'll
hold it up there. Obviously, Taylen rat not being there
in the secondary means maybe Travis Kelsey's got room to
move in that second level like he has been so brilliantly.
By the way, the under is ten and three with

(40:50):
Clayton Blakeman and his crew. Oh, by the way, they
also were tied for the most penalties thrown this year.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I think Pick Bavetta is actually officiating the game better.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Luckily the Knicks aren't playing
exit up by the Fresco Exit Swollen Dome have a
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