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December 5, 2024 40 mins

On tonight’s edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Jason and Mike kick off the hour by analyzing the College Football Playoff bracket, comparing it to what might have happened under the old four-team format. Next, they break down comments from Lakers head coach JJ Redick following a tough loss to the Miami Heat. Don’t miss all this and more in Hour 4!

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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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(00:51):
we'll have more on the developing Lakers story coming up
in about twenty minutes after JJ Reddick just laced his
team tonight following the Lake loss to the Heat forty
one point loss, and wow, now things are gonna get
really interesting. But today was a big day in college
football for two things. We'll get to the playoff coming
up in a second, but you know, today being national

(01:14):
signing day. I always like to say that, you know,
there's certain jobs I know I can do without any experience,
Like I could be a pr advisor for Stars. I
can come up with ideas for campaigns for advertising, like
certain things. I know I can do this without any experience.
But I know the one job I absolutely can't do,
and in sports, And not only that, I wouldn't want to.

(01:36):
It just sounds the mental aspect of it just sounds
daunting to do, and especially after the last couple of years.
I could never be a recruiter for college football. I
could never do it. I could never be and I
don't mean one of the guys that is going to
break down talent and say, all this kid's really good.
We should call him not a scout, No, I mean
the recruiter, because it's just so daunting to me to

(01:59):
all right, I got a text a kid before he
goes to school every day and say have a great day.
You know, hey, hope your girlfriend has a great party tonight.
You know, he say hi to your grandmother for her
birthday formula like it. I couldn't do that. But really,
what would get me is the way guys flip at
the end so often now, because that was a story
of the day today. It wasn't who was signing where. Look,

(02:21):
we had all the signing classes, and it's a day
that everybody feels good because you feel good about your class.
You're hearing about players, you're seeing their highlights thing and all.
This guy's gonna be really good. It's nice to see that. Hey,
my team's in the top twenty, the top forty, the
top fifty. But the big story today was, Hey, look
at all these four and five star guys who flipped.
Who flipped from school A to school B, from big

(02:42):
time school A to big time school B. And because
of the NIL era now it's become way more prevalent.
I can't imagine the basic doing all that for you know,
like two plus years. You're talking to a kid like
every single day and checking in that how are you
pretending we're friends and all of these things, and then oh, yeah,

(03:04):
I'm coming, I'm coming. That's great, great, great. And then
then on the morning of signing day he calls and says, hey,
you know, uh, Tech gave me an extra fifty grand
in NIL money, so I'm going there, and I would
I would just want to hang up the phone, throw
it into the lake and move to Antarctica like I could.
I could never do that, Mike. I would just want
to get and I would say, oh, I want to

(03:25):
say so much to this kid. Two years of my
life I've spent and you decide, Oh, hey, I'm gonna
get a best buy deal from somewhere down on the
corner and I'm gonna get and this is where I'm going. Oh,
I can't even I can't even imagine that. I could
never do that job. Never.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Well, but that's the hard.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
Part, right, It's that bridge between personal and business because
you build those relationships.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Right, you're in there, glad handing man.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
How many times do you see the the gift of
Nick Saban when he's doing the the you know, the
shuffle in recruits houses. Right, Remember, hey, there's Nick Saban.
This is how much he wanted to be part of
your family. All of those you know, recruiting tales we've
heard through the years of family dinners and and things
you had to skip of your own to go be

(04:11):
part of, to show how much you love show me
you love me, right, hey, sniff, if he's there kind
of thing, go back to Jerry maguire right to take
it out to a bigger space.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
But yeah, all that to say is it's.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
A lot of personal investment and the ability to say, Okay,
you know, show friends, show business, all of those things, right.
You know, you help people out, and is there ever
really an expectation of you're gonna get something back?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Right?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
People move into new roles, new jobs, new relationships, whatever else,
and it's like you have your moment, you can chuck
your phone, but then you got to get back to work, right.
The opportunity costs the kid you didn't land because you
were so invested over there, he signed with the other
guy while you were down there with him. You know,
all of those see Jerry Maguire Part two. All of

(05:01):
that to say, you know, you've got to rely on
a team of people. Everybody's got to be on the
same page, just like you do in terms of putting
a game plan together on the field. So yeah, it's
that much more complicated. I'll raise you one because you
can have a good laugh at what was said and
well not said in the words of Braun there at

(05:23):
Northwestern talking about how not a single one of these
young men twenty guys that signed two guys that left right,
two best players that they have, But not one of
these young men was induced to come to Northwestern through
nil dollars, not a single cent of nil. Okay, cool,
I don't know that you want to say that quiet
part out loud. I mean, you might be trying to
get yourself fired. But the other one, this is funny.

(05:46):
This doesn't get out to the media, But there were
some big time programs across the country that tried to
come in on these guys late. The fact that we
got the signing day and kept them all it's a
testament to the character of the young men that we're
signing families and a.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Credit to the job that our staff did.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
All right, show me the guys that they didn't get
and let me have those conversations. Let's open the books
and talk about all of that. Yeah, I get it right,
all of those all that relationship building, all that time,
all of those things that you had to forego in
your professional and personal life to try to make those
things happen. And the kids that got short shrift that

(06:28):
maybe really wanted to be part of your program saw themselves.
All right, I could be a two in year one,
but there's an opportunity. There's a path whether whatever your
school is, think about your favorite school out there wherever
you're listening. However you're listening, thanks for being with us,
you know us. It's Northwestern Syracuse. The guys that were, oh,
I do anything to be in that New York area

(06:49):
to be with fran Brown. I'll do all that, and
they don't get a call because you're spending all this
other time on a guy at the same position, same
thing at Northwestern. All these guys that might have been
like I could be in Chicago, I could spend my
off days at guaranteed raid Field, I could go.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
All the Okay, all of that to say, they.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Don't get the attention because you're with the other recruit
and then bam, you know, better deal comes along.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
You know, And and that's the thing is that you know,
while I know it's a job, I just can't do.
I can't Okay, what what's going on in this Okay, Yeah,
he's got that big English test on Friday. It's on Macbeth. Okay,
what do I remember from Macbeth in high school? Like
I forget about not.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
That you're sending him your cliffs notes.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Here's a paper I wrote about fate and destiny in
Macbeth I did in sophomore year of high.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
School and buried in there are all the accomplishments that
they'll have if they come to your school.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
So it's subgodges like here.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Just take it and use it. It was in the eighties.
No one has a copy of this anymore. I think
it's fine.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
It's all digitized.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Smith.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
You just you just set that kid down a bad bath.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Did you plage your eyes a story? Jason Smith from
Curtis High School in nineteen eighty five, Oh my god
did I Well he got an A on it. But
the other part of it is this, you know, you
mentioned Nick Saban, and we concentrate so much because this
is the flip side of this, is that we concentrate
so much on the coaches who say, ah, this is
not for me anymore. This is not the college football

(08:20):
that I have been involved in my whole life. It's
why Nick Saban is retired from coaching. It's why all
the guys are leaving. Jim Harbaugh left to go to
the NFL. You know, look, you guys on the basketball side, right, yeah,
you see you guys saying listen, I can't do it anymore.
The nil situation, the transfer portal, We're changing the teams
all the time. I'm just done. This is not me.

(08:42):
And it gives you the impression of, well, hey, college
football s turned into a bad place. No, it's just okay.
It's the game has evolved, right, and it could it
be done a little bit better. Sure, because college football
doesn't really have a governing body, so they kind of
let the commissioners kind of do whatever the hell they
want to. But I have so much respect for the
new wave of college football coaches who are coming up now,

(09:03):
because you need to be great recruiter and be able
to be a CEO head coach of your team. It's
it's not about guys like Lincoln Riley, who are gonna say, listen,
here's what I do. I develop quarterbacks. Oh let's get
this guy in. We're gonna be really good. No, it's
the guy that can say, hey, I can get you
a top twenty class and still be the head coach.
I'm not bringing in some kind of new system that's

(09:26):
gonna work. We're not gonna line up everybody you know
and go fast and throw verts like they did in
the twenty tens like, that's not me. But I'm gonna
come in as a CEO. I'm gonna bring the talent in.
We're gonna get everybody together and I'm gonna leave things
to my assistance, and I'm gonna spend time coaching as
well as being on the phone for NIL and talking
about the transfer portal and having a job that needs

(09:47):
twenty eight hours in the day, not just twenty four.
You know. You know we talk about fran Brown. He's
one of the guys, the new guys from at Syracuse
had great success. He was a number one recruiter in
the country for the last couple of years before he
got the job at Syracuse' head coach. There's other guys
out there who are doing it. You're seeing all these
new schools that are taking chances on players, that are
on coaches that are flipping players getting them to come.

(10:09):
Whether it's Indiana having a great year like it is
this year. This is the new wave of college football.
These are the guys who are gonna be the next
great head coaches, not the ones with a come in
with this system. I'm a great offensive mind. It's hey,
I will go out and i will get this talent
in here. I will make sure the nil money is there.
I will make sure in the transfer portal we are
getting exactly what we need. And there's they're there's gonna

(10:32):
they're gonna choose our school because we're giving them the
best offer and the best opportunity. And to think about
doing stuff like that, and oh, by the way, coaching
on the field and getting a team ready twelve saturdays
and more in the fall. Like, my hat's off to
those guys because I'm I'm tired just talking about it,
Like I'm running out of breath right now, and I
just talked about what they've done for the last three minutes.

(10:54):
And these guys actually go do it. And there's no
off time, there's no off days, there's no there's no
day periods where it's like we're not doing anything. I mean,
I don't know how these guys do it. But these
are the coaches who are the next wave of successful
coaches in college football. And you can see it already
coming up. And these are the these are the coaches
that schools are gonna take chances on. Hey, this guy

(11:16):
who are the best recruiters in the country. These guys,
let's let's see what's this guy's like. Could he be
a head coach? Now? Does he need to be an
OC and then a head coach? What is it first?
Can we put them in charge of our program? These
guys coming up now, man, I have all kinds of
respect for them because they have more energy and more
time to get stuff done that I can't even fathom
how they would do it. Yeah, I gotta gotta think that.

(11:36):
You know, a lot of it comes down to in
the interview process, you've probably established what you can do
x's and o's wise, Right, you're gonna stand in front
of whatever the GM, the ownership group, whatever consultants they
brought in, and you're gonna wow them with that. But
I don't think that's gonna be the bulk of a
lot of these interviews anymore, especially at the collegiate level.

(11:59):
It's gonna become how do you manage a program?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Right?

Speaker 4 (12:04):
How do you build an infrastructure? We talk about We
joked with Jason Cole last hour about the arrival of
you know, Andrew Luck back to Stanford as a GM.
You're gonna start seeing stuff like that, right, levels of
management of all Right, we're parsing out this you're gonna coach,
but you know, you've got to parse out stuff for

(12:24):
calls to boosters because we need money still flowing in here.
I don't know whether they're spending it at Northwestern again,
sideswipe while.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
We're at it, but you're gonna need money coming in.

Speaker 4 (12:35):
You're gonna need all of the notes going back out
to the recruits, talking about those English tests, talking about
upcoming you know, milestones here there or whatever with their families,
showing that you're invested in their lives, their growth and
everything along the way. And that's gonna take a lot
of managerial skills as much as it does coaching. Just

(12:59):
like you part things your position coaches and your coordinators,
it's talking about the whole football operation that you still
have to be the head of and you still have
to be apprized of because and at the end, it's
your ass on the line, right. Athletic directors get to
usually dance between two, three four coaches before they get bounced.

(13:20):
Assistant coaches, well, you'll cycle through those as you need to,
But for head coaches, they're the ones in the public.
They're the ones, you know, like Jim Malhoun had to
defend his salary all those years ago, all of that.
You know, if you're at a public institution, you have to,
you know, make sure you're being being transparent enough as
you can.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
There.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Yeah, it's a headache, and and God bless the CEO
head coach, give me, give me this instead of the uh,
the asenine hard knock stuff that we get no offense
to Joe Burrow and his batmobile.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
But like all of those, forget about it. I don't
need all of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Give me, give me the Interwe are workings of a
new new found approach here in college football, because that's
fascinating to watch that machine run.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmen Live from the ti rack
dot Com Studios. I mean I could after today, especially
the flipping would just drive me insane. It would just
that would be the worst part. And the coach would say,
what happened? You had him for the last eighteen months.
I know the kid's eighteen. He was committed somewhere for
eight months. It must have felt like ten years. What

(14:24):
do you want me to do? I'm done.

Speaker 4 (14:26):
I have the only documentary leave this particular cycle though, Jason,
what the hell happened with Billy Napier?

Speaker 3 (14:32):
We brought it up yesterday and a drive by. We
bring it up here again.

Speaker 4 (14:36):
How the hell did he flip all those people when
two weeks three weeks ago, everybody wanted him fired.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
That's what I want to know.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Oh man, I'll tell you. Sometimes a turn Sometimes turnarounds
happen when you're not looking. See it's just right there.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
You got.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
There's that Shannon Sharp meme that always comes up when
people go you know, it's like case and evidence. You
know where he like he's throwing up his arms like
see I told you, See I told you Billy nip
Here in this process, every one of these recruits say,
you can come in and play.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
See that guy can't play.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
See you want to come here, you can have his
job tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
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is better than the four team playoff. And something you
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on the drama with the Lakers following their loss tonight,

(15:33):
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Speaker 1 (16:45):
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The college football playoff pole still red hot, even hotter

(17:07):
than that white hot after the next to last pole
came out a day ago. The big controversy, of course,
we talked about it, Alabama getting the final slot right
now over Miami, And okay, there was your controversy yesterday.
It was a legit story. We talked about it. Alabama
deserves it. They have a better resume. Yes, they have

(17:27):
three losses, but they have three better wins than Miami
has all season long. And for all of the questions
about it, and there are things that are gonna have
to be tweaked with it. It's the first year of
the twelve team playoff, and there's gonna be people who
are upset about Ah, should Boise State really be a
four seed? Can we just let him in and have

(17:47):
the top four teams be a seed? Okay? Can we
have teams that are in the conference championship game clinch
of birth? Because it really sucks if they lose a
game and they lose out to a team that didn't
play that week? Is that really there's tweaks going on,
But I can already tell you that this year's playoff
is better than what we had for the past decade

(18:09):
plus when we had the top four. And here's why. Again,
remember the controverts from a day ago, Alabama or Texas,
sorry Alabama or Miami for that last playoff slot. Now,
let's just say for a second that we don't have
the twelve team playoff this year and we're back to
the top four. Let's just say that's where we're at now.
So where we be sitting going into conference championship week, Oregon, Texas,

(18:33):
Penn State, and No. Tre Dame. That's your top four Oregon, Texas,
Penn State, Notre Dame, followed by Georgia, Ohio State, Tennessee
and SMU. Right now, what we see if this is
a fourteen playoff, well, obviously the Oregon Penn State winner
gets in, and potentially if Penn State beats Oregon, both
of them would get in Texas to play oh Georgia.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
The winner of that game gets in now, and maybe
both teams get in.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
If it's Georgia Notre Dame sitting at number four, they're
likely in, but potentially there could be some chaos if
you get Penn State and Georgia upsetting Oregon in Texas, right,
but Notre Dame number four, they feel pretty good right now,
and again outside the top five, then it's got Ohio State,
Tennessee and SMU. Now, even if things go according to plan,

(19:21):
which is Oregon winning and Texas winning, you are talking
about leaving out teams to choose from out of Penn State, Georgia,
Notre Dame, Ohio State, Tennessee, and potentially the ACC champion SMU.
All right, you're talking about but potentially five teams that

(19:45):
could say, wait a minute, what about us. There's no
way you can tell me that this team deserves it
over us. How do you differentiate between Ohio State and Tennessee.
You can't right, Ohio State ten and two in the
Big Ten Big lost to Michigan. Tennessee ten and two
in the SEC, didn't make the se title game, doesn't matter.
How do you differentiate between Ohio State and Tennessee. Well,

(20:07):
Ohio State's more talented doesn't mean they're a better team.
How can you leave out SMU who could finish at
twelve and one winning the ACC. Yes, sorry, SMU, We're
gonna have a two loss Penn State team in there
instead of you. You are now we are now talking
about the biggest of the heavyweights in all of college football.
Because I'll be honest, it kind of drops off after
SMU because then you get Indiana, who is a feeld

(20:28):
good story, but was their schedule the toughest They got
pasted the one game they really needed to play well.
And then you're in Boise State, a three loss Alabama,
three loss, Ole Miss Miami. So eight eight teams at
your cutoff right now, but you are looking at six
teams that could potentially say why are we out? There's
no reason we couldn't be. And this is the cream

(20:49):
of the crop of everybody in college football this year.
If Notre Dame gets passed over, if Penn State falls out,
if Oregon falls out, Ohio State, Tennessee, SMU And now
you compare to what we have going on now with
twelve teams. Oh, it's really Oh we're arguing Alabama and Miami.
Oh okay, So yeah, we figured out it's much better

(21:11):
when there's twelve teams in because how much argument can
you really muster up for Miami. Yes, it's a big
story and it's kind of a shocking story that Miami
was left out simply because they were a top six
team most of the year and for them to lose
the way they did to Syracuse and Kyle McCord to
be so good after down twenty one nothing. Uh, yeah,
it's kind of shocking. But overall, do you really is

(21:32):
there gonna be that much of an outcry if Miami
gets left out? There's not. Everybody's had their chance to
win and get in, right. There's a difference between when
you're saying, hey, we're leaving out who could be one
of the top three or four teams in the country
versus we're leaving out a team that potentially is a
periphery top ten team. So already the focus on this
year with the playoff is much more on the field

(21:54):
of play because it's about winning and getting into the
top twelve, and these teams deserving winning to get up
in there. Then it would be if it was a
fourteen playoff where the conversation after this weekend is going
to be how do you leave so and so out?
And that's a conversation for three weeks. How does Ohio
State get left out? After Penn State loss? And Ohias,
how does that happen again? You're gonna haver no matter what,

(22:16):
You're gonna have four or five teams that are gonna
say what about us? And there's no way to differentiate
to say this team absolutely deserves it over they did. Look,
people still upset that Florida State didn't get in. That
was last year they were undefeated. Just because Jordan Travis
got hurt. Oh, we can't put him in the playoff.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
It can't do it.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
I mean, just think about the craziness and the quality
of teams that were left out versus who were talking
about being left out. Now you got four or five
teams that could get left out that are great versus
Miami this year, I think that's all you need to know.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Look at your Jets quarterback causing chaos, just like your
Syracuse quarterback is causing chaos this year. See, it's all
about you Smith, all about you and your lunacy. No,
what's funny is just all the belly aching and and
some of it.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
You know, we get.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Into the let's show us how the sausages make makes sense?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Right.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
We've seen some of the statements from the the representatives
talking about the resumes and going in to try to
jockey for positioning and your mark with all this stuff
about hey, you know you're talking about logos over over resumes,
Like all right, now do Boise state there your mine?

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Tell you what.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Obviously they've got a heavyweight and genty and they've got
the turf. Are you telling me that's over your squad? So,
you know, let's let's make sure we have it in
totality totality as we go through it. But when we
look at the fourteen versus twelve, yeah, you answer a
lot of those questions. A lot of the heavyweights are in.
Now it's just about seating. It's about what kind of

(23:52):
matchups we can get. And until you have full transparency
on the formula formulaic approach plus the human sentiment in
the room, which we're never going to get, then you're
always going to have a little bit of debate. But
if it's the argument over a two loss or three
loss team at the back end, who's losing sleep except

(24:13):
the people at that school right with the number four,
then yeah, it's a big deal. And there were a
lot of times where it's all right, where's the line
of demarcation in terms of strength of schedule, common opponents.
All of that's like when you lost, how you lost,
whatever else, And I understand there's always going to be
that element no matter how far you extend it. Hell,

(24:36):
we still have those arguments at the tournament for the
NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament, and what do we at, like
eighty teams at this point? At another two there's another
day of television to be had. But yeah, just based
on where we're at right now, the games in November
still had great meaning and consequence, and we get a

(24:57):
much better representative field here with not a lot of
belly aching, and everybody gets fat from the television trough.
So yeah, to your point, the Florida State thing, they
also become the post children of Look what happened in
a year?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
All that crying? What did it get?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
You?

Speaker 3 (25:16):
A tumultuous, horrible season?

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Exit? Now about Fresca exit, swollen dumb the Jason Smithson
with Mike Harmon Live the Direct Dot come. So yeah,
so ready, you see this is why it's better.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
Stop crying, go back to work, work harder. Nobody cares.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
We'll have that Lakers drama coming up in ninety seconds,
But first, Moncy Bolanos has what's trending in the wide
world of sports, including did the Clippers cover I think
they were thirty four point underdogs tonight? Monsei?

Speaker 5 (25:45):
Did they cover the number I think they did?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Okay, Jason, good, good good.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
Yes, No, I'm real happy about that.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Okay, No.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Why why did they have to get crushed on the
same night that the Lakers got crushed?

Speaker 5 (25:57):
You know what I'm saying, It's.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Okay, then you fought. Look with what JJ Reddick said,
what we're going to get into in a couple of minutes.
This is a night you want to lose by. Get
lose by thirty five. No one's gonna care.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Everybody tells me how great they are, So it doesn't matter.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
You're right, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
But yes.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
The Timberwolves little crush the Clippers in La.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
One oh eight to eighty was the final score, and
that one the Hawks snapped the Bucks seven game winning streak.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
One nineteen to one oh four was the final there.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
Franz Wagner, for a seventh game this season, has scored
more than thirty points. He had thirty five tonight, the
Magic took down the seventy six ers one oh six
to one oh two. The Lakers, this was their eighth
worst defeat in forty seven years. According to what they
put on my TV a couple of minutes ago. One
thirty four to ninety three was the score, with Miami

(26:44):
Heat coming out on top. Tyler Hero dropped nine threes
in the win for a total of thirty one points.
The Nets beat the Piecers ninety nine to ninety and
the Celtics with a one thirty to one twenty win
over the Pistons, Jalen Brown leading the way with twenty
eight points and six rebounds of nine assists.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
In college hoops, though.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
It was Creighton who handled the number one team in
the country, Kansas, their first loss of the season. Seventy
six to sixty three was the final there. Mississippi State
crushed number eighteen Pittsburgh ninety to fifty seven, and number
nine Duke outscored number two Auburn eighty four to seventy
eight behind Cooper Flags twenty two points and eleven rebounds

(27:21):
victories for number twenty five Yukon thirteen ranked Florida.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
Number twelve Oregon did.

Speaker 6 (27:27):
Come back and defeat USC in the end sixty eight
to sixty and number twenty four San Diego State did
beat Fresno State in the end as well, eighty four
to sixty two. On the ice, the Maple Leaves stamp
top of their division after beating the Predators three to two,
while the Kings edge the Stars three to two and
the Golden Knights outscored the Ducks four to one. And
of course, an NFC North showdown for Thursday Night football

(27:49):
between the Lions and the Packers will kick off Week
fourteen of the NFL. Green Bay will be without their
cornerback JayR Alexander and without wide receiver Romeo Dobbs for.

Speaker 5 (27:59):
The game and Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
He was placed on I are with a concussion, but
now he will have surgery on that ac joint injury
in his left shoulders, so he is officially out for
the season. Mac Jones will be taking over the starting
quarterback job in Jacksonville. Fellas, it's been a pleasure. Let's
do it again tomorrow, Thank you much.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
We will see you tomorrow, Yeah, Thursday night.

Speaker 5 (28:21):
That's right, right, yes, see tomorrow by guys.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Why now, speaking of the Lakers right now, it's it's
hard to put a lot of stock or this early
in the season when a team is twelve and eight,
ten and eight, lots of really good teams are hoffing
around five hundred. Minnesota is struggling out of the gate.
The Knicks were five hundred before they pulled off a
few wins. The Bucks were terrible and they had won
seven in a row before they wound up losing tonight.

(28:48):
So it's hard because I were early in the season,
lots of good teams are trying to figure things out.
So for the Lakers, who looked really good the first
ten or twelve games of the season, they have looked
the Apps salute opposite. The last ten games. They have
not won a lot. Lebron James has played poorly and
you're wondering what is going on with LA But okay,

(29:08):
it's early on in the season. They're figuring things out. Well.
Then we get what JJ Reddick said following the game tonight.
They get pasted by forty one against the Miami Heat.
Magic Johnson tweeting out he's embarrassed with the Lakers loss.
And not only is JJ Reddick upset, He said, there's

(29:29):
some things that the players might need to be doing, including, hey,
being more together in team huddles. Take a listen. Upset,

(29:49):
you know, very upset he was. He was really mad. Yeah,
I don't know what question was asked, but he was
really mad, very upset, salty. So here was after calming down,
JJ Reddick, I had this to say about the Lakers
effort tonight.

Speaker 7 (30:02):
There has to be some ownership on the court, and
I'll take all the ownership in the world. This is
my team and I lead it, and I'm embarrassed. But
I can't physically get us organized. I can't physically be
into the basketball. I can't physically talk and call out
reds and physically call out coverages. And it's you know,

(30:25):
I'm not men by the way, I'm not blaming players.
That's not I own this. I own this, but I
couldn't need some ownership on the court as well.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
So and then he goes on to say, hey, I
don't feel we're together in huddles, in time outs on
the floor. So first of all, I love the fact
that he said, listen, I can't do any of this,
you know, the players need to do it. But I'm
not blaming the players for anything, you know, and then
goes on to say, we need accountability all of these things.
You know. I'm going back to what I said at

(30:57):
the very beginning of the dance the Lakers had they
got turned down by Danny Hurley, who decided to turn
the Lakers down to stay at you gon to lose
five in a row.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
On the side, he'd be crawling around like a baby
that you just took his toy away.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Here's JJ Redick. I don't know if he expected he
was gonna get something different from Lebron James. As far
as leadership goes, it's not who he is. He's never
been that. He's never been that get on my back guy. No,
he's always been I'm kind of at arm's length. He's
a big icon, that's not what he is. Because you
were friends, maybe you thought he was gonna be a
different guy. No, he wasn't gonna be that guy. So

(31:37):
I go back and just say, is this job too
much for JJ Redick? You know, is this job too much?
Because again we know is his coaching experience was fourth
grade basketball, big time analyst on ESPN, played in the
league for a long time, has cachet with the players.
But really, I look at it now and I go,

(31:57):
is this too much for him? Like? Did he really
thought he he's gonna come in in this and make
this kind of a dent. Like maybe with some of
the younger players, he's able to get them to do
different things, which is awesome, But you need Lebron and
Ad to be the leader on the ones that you're
expecting more from and they're just not. So I mean, really,
is he gonna sit back and go, Man, my life

(32:18):
was great when I was on TV. This is really stressful, man,
I mean, did I JJ Reddick probably should have gone
when he wanted to become a coach in the NBA
and go someplace where the temperature was a little bit lower.
He could learn and make mistakes and feel his way
around outside of the spotlight, but instead, no, it's the Lakers,

(32:38):
which is a big show every single night. And now
he's shown up and he's realized, Oh, things aren't how
I thought they were gonna go. And now here he
is calling out the team and is really upset for
the second time in twenty two games. Right, I like,
you can't really feel your way around and what it
means to be a head coach when you're coaching the Lakers.
Can't do it that way, And that's what I feel

(32:59):
like he's doing. So all the fears I had beginning
his basketball acumen not a question, a work ethic not
in question, none of that. But when it comes to
what it means to be a head coach and how
to be the leader of a team, I see him
now and I go, man, he is flailing. This is
the second Hey, I'm disappointed in the guys that we've had,
and really we're still in the first week of December.

(33:20):
You can't do that, man, I mean again, is he
in over his head? Is this job too much for him?
It's the same question we asked when he was getting
getting hired, and we're back to that question now.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Well, you're just over a quarter of the way into
the season. You've already got tired legs from your two stars.
And as we talked with Rick Buker a little bit
last hour, Jason, how many other guys do you say,
all right, these are building blocks Austin Reeves and connect I.

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Think that's about it right.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
Other guys that might be back of the rotation players
maybe somewhere, but in terms of actually building a squad,
that's what you have. And when you've already run Davison
and Lebron thirty five minutes a night, yeah, now you
got to figure out how to pull those strings. And
it's an analogy you've used often in a reference to
you know, Rex Ryan and the way things had to

(34:07):
play with the Jets and how every game was Super
Bowl Sunday for him. Unfortunately, given the way JJ Reddick
got his job, the perception versus reality, perception becomes reality.
You're scrutinized for every decision, every collapse, everything your team
does on a nightly basis, and he's finding out really

(34:30):
fast that's not a fun place to be because it
all gets magnified and as soft as the you know,
media may be in Los Angeles about a lot of things.
The rest of the world is not when it comes
to the Lakers.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
And hell, you got Magic.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Johnson taking shots at the squad. It's embarrassing about their
effort and everything else. You're only twenty two, twenty four
games in.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
It ain't gonna get any easier.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
I mean, the holiday holiday holiday season is just underway,
and it's a feeling of you know, good glad tidings
and peace on earth and goodwill towards men. Unless you're
the Lakers head coach brought out now efforts like this.
Darvin ham had a better squad a year ago. At
least that's what the record told me.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Is this job too much for jj Reddick? We are
back to that question in the first week of December.
Coming up next, we'll have a little bit more NBA,
Plus we'll tell you who's gonna win the Titanic matchup
tomorrow night and what's gonna wind up being the most
watched Thursday night football game of the year in the NFL.
Cleveland's not playing. We had Cleveland on Monday. Cleveland was great.

(35:37):
I've had my Philip Cleveland. Uh, if winning means they
were all together doing something fun, yes, then they.

Speaker 4 (35:45):
Won, Yes than they won well, I mean four ninety
seven and six touchdowns for jamis big night.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
It's going up next right here, Jason to Mike Fox
Sports Radio. I know I'm better than this.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
I know I'm like I'm just praying for the what's
delivered me from pig sixes.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
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Speaker 3 (36:13):
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Speaker 1 (36:14):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harvion Live from the
Tirerag dot Com STUDI I'm an ass man, true. We
are getting set for a titanic Thursday night football matchup
that I have no doubt that at the end of
the season, Green Bay and the Lions is going to

(36:34):
wind up being the most stream most watched Thursday night
football game of the years. It's such a great matchup,
the interest level in both of these teams. The Lions
are the overwhelming favorites for the Super Bowl. They're scoring
forty points a week. The Packers are playing very well now.
Jordan Love seems to have gotten it back. Both offenses
are really lighting it up. The atmosphere at Ford Field

(36:56):
tomorrow is going to be insane, like this is This
is a game, right, This is not Jaggs Titans on
a Thursday night by carbon. This is a game. And
I can imagine what the scene is gonna be like
in Detroit tomorrow. It is gonna be electric.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Oh, I'm excited for this one. Obviously, a couple of
NFC North teams that have some direction, purpose and know
what they're doing. It's nice to watch that on display.
Bears had the Lions and not about the hook, you know,
while only playing one half of football a week ago.
But green Bay playing well, and you know how much
it pains me to say that as that team rounds

(37:32):
into shape down the stretch, some big injuries on both sides,
I'm really concerned with the Lions front seven as to
you know, the next phase of this squad, especially when
Green Bay is running the ball so effectively with Josh
Jacobs and giving them great balance. So that's the thing
looking looking forward. You know you asked the question a

(37:54):
couple of weeks ago, had the Lions peaked. I just
want to know how many guys are getting through healthy
on that side of the ball.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
As we get towards the playoffs. Uh, when when you
break this game down, the Lions injuries are gonna keep
things wide open for the Packers. There's gonna be a
lot of points in this game.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Fifty one and a half.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Baby, I'm telling you, man, I'm not I'm not gonna
try to pick the week for the Lions to lose.
That that's just a fool's Errand because they're playing so
incredibly well, they they have to they have to show
me a reason first why I'm not going to pick them,
because they are finding away stupid to well, that was
the bear. I think maybe they were counting on that.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
To be dumb.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
We're gonna play bad football for the second half. Let
you back in the game, give you a chance to
win it, but we know you're gonna screw up.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Even despite the fact that that Dan Campbell campbelling his
way along. Why it is? Why does David Montgomery have
twice as many touches every week as Jamiir Gibbs. Jamiir
Gibbs is the most talented running back in the NFL.
I mean I get that, you know, okay, you know,
I mean Montgomery is still really good, don't get me wrong,
but it can't be twenty four touches for him in
twelve for Gibbs. The guy can go to the end

(39:03):
zone on every play. He hits holes and I can't
even tell that the hole is there, and yet it
looks like it's twenty feet wide, but he goes through
it despite the fact, Dan, Dan, find someone who loves you,
like Dan Campbell loves David Montgomery. But the offense is
just at too high a level for Detroit and they
put too much pressure on you, especially at home. I'm

(39:23):
not going against the Lions in this game. They gotta
show me that way. If Jared Goff could go on
the road and throw five picks, the Lions can still
win a game. They still think about that Texans game
a month ago, like they're gonna find a way against
Green Bay. Give me the Lions. They cover in a
high scoring game. I'll take the over two.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Packers get it done. They're able to cause a couple
of turnovers. That plus minus rating keeps going. By the
way Montgomery, you know why, he gets the ball body blow,
body bow, body blow, And then Gibbs comes in and
it's like uppercut. He's down for the count.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Did you try to halfway do a little bit of
punch out there? You try to.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Kind of halfway do it, and then you know I
walked you there. No, I was waiting jump over the top.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
You are only picking the Packers because you're pissed off
about last week's Bears game. You're picking because I want
to go pick the Packers. That's who have holed me
for thirty five years of my life.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
You don't want to.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Pick the lines because you're just mad about they both
are gonna lose Smith Funny Buddy, I'd be mad too,
But come on, man, I know I know you're mad.
Don't let that influence when you pick games. Man, you
can't let that influence you.

Speaker 3 (40:30):
Packers plus three.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
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