May 13, 2025 • 40 mins
Senior NBA Writer & Insider Marc Stein joins the show to talk all things Playoffs and weighs in on the Mavericks winning the draft lottery.
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Things starting to get
I don't want to say interesting, but.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Maybe not doom and gloom. I think if you're watching
in the live stock market, that is a ticker. Here's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's because I watched the Knicks, who there's no deficit
they can overcome. Oh boy ah, the Warriors have cut
the Timberwolves. That was twenty to five right now is
a sorry to ten right now. It is a ten
point lead for the Wolves, one fifteen to one oh
five fifty five seconds left to go. The Wolves, on
the cusp of taking a three to one lead a
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stranglehold on this series. They would join the Knicks and
the Pacers with three games to one leads in their
respective conference semifinals. Are you ready? I told you last
Monday Nicks Pacers Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
People left it hi Now no one's laughing. No, the
early week fever dream is now coming into focus. Go
New York, Go New York, Go, Go New York, Go
New York.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Go.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So we'll keep you updated again.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Still a ten point lead now thirty seconds left to go,
so the Warriors not being able to extend the game.
For the t Wolves, it'll be a three to one
lead for Minnesota. Joining us now on the hotline, fresh
off an NBA night where this has been a day
longtime NBA insiders on Twitter at the Steinline. Check them
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out on Substack. Just finishing a big night on the
Dallas Mavericks who win the NBA Draft Lottery despite having
just a one point eight percent chance of winning. Mark,
what's happening man? Congratulations on whatever you did to help
the Mavericks get that number one overall.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Pick would love to tell you I had a roll
in it, but I don't know what forces could could have.
I don't know what forces were involved in that, because
that was a shocker.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
What was it? What was you seeing?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It happen, you're seeing it happen in real time. What's
going through your head when you see the Mavericks getting it?
Of course, all the machinations of the Luca trade and
what's going forward going through your head at that time.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Well, I was on a live podcast with my friends
from the LS MAVs and you know, there's four of
us on the show and lifelong MAVs fan next to me,
and honestly, like I knew we were doing a live
show in conjunction with the lottery, but wasn't even prepared
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to discuss the idea of Cooper Flag ending up a
Maverick because the MAVs lottery history was wretched. They had
been in the draft lottery sixteen times previously, nine times
they ended up exactly where they were projected to, seven
times they fell. They had never moved up in their
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lottery history. And we're talking some years in the nineties
when they won eleven and thirteen games in back to
back seasons and ended up with a number four pick
two times in a row, missing out on the likes
of Shack and Alonzo Mourning and Chris Weber and Penny Hardaway.
So this is a franchise that has known little apart
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from draft lottery heartbreak. So after what's happened over the
past three months and then to win this lottery with
Cooper Flag in it in the wake of the Luka
Doncige trade, I'm actually a little weary. You can probably send.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It in my voice.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It's been a long, long unit, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But here's the thing, Mark, is that, Okay, everything that
went on with the Mavericks the last few months, obviously
you're looking at a sunny side up for them. They
have money to spend in the in the summer for
a big star because they're not paying Luca the three
hundred and fifty million dollars he was due.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So it's like, okay, hey, we.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Have money to go get a star to team him
up with Ad and Kyrie when he gets healthy, and
the future for the MAVs, Hey maybe looking pretty good.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
All of a sudden, it's we can go pay money
for a star to play with Ad, Kyrie when he
gets healthy and Cooper Flagg. Suddenly the Mavericks are like, hey,
we went through a really bad last couple of months,
but we could be back at the top of the
West quicker than we expected.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
To be, well, they don't have money to spend, so
that just because they're not giving a super Max to Luca,
they still have a lot of money invested in both
Anthony Davis. They've got a new deal to do with
Kyrie Irving and the off season. But look, getting Cooper
Flagg obviously it changes the complex. You know, it just
changes the mood in town dramatically. There is now a
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new young foundational star potentially to build around and to
try to start winning the trust back of the fan
base that you know, frankly, that trust was shattered in
a dramatic way. So after just three months of very
loud doom and gloom all over town, I mean, there's
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no question that this is this is going to spark
an unforeseen burst of excitement. I mean it's crazy that
I ran you guys through that Dallas Mavericks Draft lottery
misery history. When you factor in the Dallas Wings and
Paige Becker's, like, in the span of a few weeks
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they've won two lotteries and now Page Becker's is a
Dallas Wing and Copra Flag is going to be a
Dallas Maverick. So I mean it would have been hard
to imagine that kind of scenario given again, what the
you know, draft lottery, disappointment after disappointment, and there are
still a zillion questions to ask, But I mean, this
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is this is a burst of good news and a
victory that I mean, I think a lot of MAVs
fans in Dallas were wondering how long would it be
before we experienced victory again? So this is this was
a shocking outcome. And yeah, it's gonna be really interesting
to see kind of where the Mavericks go from here.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Now, Mark naturally, I have to take it to the
tinfoil hat conspiracies. I don't think I'm going to get
my license to put NBA logos on them. But you know,
we celebrated or commemorated the fortieth anniversary at the Frozen
Envelope yesterday, and then there's been a number of sequences
through about the history where it just so happens that
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a city gets a big star like this. I mean,
how does the NBA address this? Do they need to?
I mean, for all the conspiracy theorists out there, look how.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
They address it? As a tremendous question, because like if
you had a dime for everyone who tweeted rigged in
response to the Mavericks getting the number one pick. No,
we can you know, Jason could probably buy the Knicks
from Jim Dolans with that hall And look, nothing I'm
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going to say is going to convince people. People who
want to believe that the lottery was rigged will believe it.
And there's nothing. Look, I've been in the I was
in the draft lottery room at the Victor we Minyama Lottery.
I've watched how it goes down. It is you know,
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if they are rigging it, they are magicians because there's
there's fifteen media people in the room and you know,
watching how they do it with this high tech hopper like.
But I realized, nothing, nothing I can say is going
to change people's minds who are convinced that this was
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all some big setup, and it will you know, the
next time we hear from Adam Silver, which will probably
be a press conference at the NBA Finals, this will
one hundred percent be a question. And I don't know
exactly what his answer is because this is this you
know is you you know it goes back to the
supposed frozen envelope in nineteen eighty five when Jason's Knicks
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got Patrick Ewing forty years ago. And you know, again,
I I do not buy into it. I don't believe it.
I've watched, I've been in the room. I've watched it
happen with my own eyes. The Ernst and Young is
administering the lottery. I don't really think they want to
participate in any Shenanigan. But but like I said, I
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just I know that there's I know there's nothing I
can say because, like I said, I was on a
live YouTube show dls MAVs for the All City Network
and our YouTube show was flooded with five hundred people
shouting rig rig rigges.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It happened.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
So and this is the fan base that wanted to
see it happen. So it's like, it's your question is excellent.
What is Adam Silver going to say the next time
he's at a stage, Because the perception is that the
NBA is pulling all these springs like it's wrestling, and
it's something they've been combating since before you again, going
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back to the eighties when I was in high school.
And you know, I think they just have to live
with it because I don't I don't foresee them change.
You know, they're not going you know, they might make
tweaks to the lottery. There's a lot of discussion tonight
that the flatten lottery odds. You know, the teams that
are really bad are not haven't won recent lotteries, and
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you know, so there might I'm sure that's going to
be a discussion point too. You know, are the lottery
odds where they need to be? The flattened lottery odds?
You know the Jazz, You know, the Jazz won seventeen games,
they had a fourteen percent shot to win the lottery
and fell as far as they could. They dropped a
number five. But you could also say, you know what,
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the Jazz tanked all year long. They were openly, blatantly
tanking from minute one. Do they deserve the number one
pick in that scenario? So, I mean, that's a whole
separate debate.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I can't wait to hear what Adam Silver is going
to say about it, because this is this might be
the loudest that we've ever heard the cries of.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It was red.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
It was red, It was rad I mean, it was
just it was an instantaneous, widespread react and what is
it where six hours removed from the draft lottery and
if you go on Twitter, you'll still find those comments
are just flying every two seconds like this is just
the universal reaction to this.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
NBA insider Mark Stein with us, Jason Smith, Mike Carbon
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, Mark,
so to move on to the action tonight. The Knicks
win in a big way. They're up three to one.
The te Wolves close out the Warriors. You're making a
little bit interesting down the stretch. But both those series
are now three to one. Do either the Celtics or
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the Warriors have a chance to come back in this series?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I don't see it. I just look Stephen Curry. You know,
I imagine he will try to convince the Warriors to
let him go in Game five, but you know Game
six was always the more likely, and there might not
be a Game six at this point. And look, your Nick,
Jalen Brunson was fantastic tonight, and I'm sure you're on
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out eleven because he was that good. And I mean,
you guys know, I'm a huge Jalen Brunson fan. I
watched him very closely for the first four years with
career here in Dallas, and he just, you know, just
continues to edge his game for it. But this is
this is a tough night in the NBA because you
just saw the wildest.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Things of the pendulum.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
With the Dallas Mavericks who've been in purgatory for the
last three months, and let's face it, it was a self
inflicted purgatory. Nobody forced them to trade Luka Doncic a
matter of months after a trip to the NBA Finals,
and suddenly the Mavericks, without warning, get this get out
of jail card one, you know, maybe the maybe the
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maybe the best to get out of jail card that
we've ever seen by virtue of winning the Cooper Flag
Draft lottery. And then on the flip side, defending champions
Jason Tatum playing his own just masterpiece game and sustains
what I mean, I don't I'm not a doctor, and
you know, I can't confirm this diagnosed because this is
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not reporting, but we all saw it, and I think
we all suspected, and we all we all fear, you know,
that it could be an Achilles, and that is just
an absolutely devastating situation because look, this is more now
for Boston than just losing this series and you know,
losing their title defense. I mean, if if that injury
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is as bad as it looked, I mean, Jason Tatum,
like Damian Lillard, is probably going to lose a season
because the Achilles injury. Again, if that's what it is,
we do not have that confirmed, but that's what it
looked like. I mean, that's the most dreaded injury in basketball,
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and it almost always sidelines a player for a full season.
And I'm literally looking up at the TV and watching
Tatum being helped up the floor and in a wheelchair
after the game. It's just crushing to watch that. And
the Celtics already this summer was going to be so
pivotal and difficult for them to deal with the financial
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realities of having a star laden team and how they're
going to go forward, because it's in the new NBA.
It's not only is your owner willing to pay the taxes,
it's the team building restrictions that come with all the taxes.
Like Steve Ballmer would spend any amount of money if
he could, but once you go into that second apron
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you just can't make changes to your team. And so
Boston was looking at likely having to break up this
team even if they want it all again, and now
with Tatum suffering this devastating injury, and if it's as
bad as it looked, I mean, Boston's hard decisions just
got even tougher.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
He's on Twitter at the Steinline. That is at the Steinline.
Check them out on substack as well. It is Mark
Stein Marks. Always appreciate your time. Next time we talk
will be previewing the Knicks Pacers Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, that is. That is going to be a really
interesting match, really interesting. But I'm happy for you, man,
Like I said, don't let my uh, don't let my
dower Tones spoil your night. No, enjoy your enjoy your
Knicks man, enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Well, he's decided, Jalen Brunson is the greatest basketball player alive.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah he is. Yeah, at the top
of that list. And you have it, then you have
Jordan and Lebron and all that, but Jalen bruns is
at the top.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Is your number one nick of all time?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Are you kidding right now?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
He is sure?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I mean, I don't know more than you ing, Yeah, probably,
I mean, it's amazing, it's amazing what he can do.
Oh and and thank you for for him from from Dallas.
By the way, just want to you know Chris.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
That he's tremendous. I absolutely love him. And look, it's
even if Tatum is done for the series, as we imagine.
I mean, this is what the Knicks have done in
this series. The only lead for thirty odd minutes in
a series that spans two hundred minutes, that have a
three to one lead. They have been clutched at the
right time.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Mark Stein again at the Steinline on Twitter. Mark, as always,
thank you so much. We'll talk to you next few
days as the playoffs continue.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
All right, guys, be good, see you Mark.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Thanks, Hey, listen, Will we will put Jalen Brunson in
the proper category, the great proper category.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Coming up next, we got more on this.
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Speaker 1 (16:42):
Up three one over the Boston Celtics. Brunson, Brunson, you
score thirty nine against the Celtics, three to one lead,
three to one lead.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
See your pacers in the next round. Now it's my
own version of hot yoga. What what is what? I
dance along to this song? Really?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Absolutely all right, get the hips work and I'm just
picturing you, like in purple shorts and a leo's hard,
like you know, like one of those one piece wrestler leads.
Oh yeah, absolutely, picture baby, Let's go purple of course.
Ah The Jadon Jewells Show with.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
My best friend Mike Carmon live from the tirerack dot
Com Studios. Both games in the books, the Warriors go
down three to one to the Timberwolves. And look, I've
said it the last nights. It's pretty simple. When Steph
Curry doesn't play, the Timberwolves will win.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Game one.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Warriors had a big game, Steph had a big game
until he got hurt. They were able to win. It
was a huge achievement. The Wolves are able to adjust.
The Warriors are just not built to win without Steph.
It's hard to say. Okay, let's let's divvy up his
responsibilities and we'll have a different kind of rotation. Some
teams can do that. The war can't. They're not built
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to win without him. And I'm telling you, I know
he said I'm not coming back till game six. But
what did I say last week? If the if the
Warriors are down three to one, is Steph Curry really
not gonna play in game five? And when Steve Kerr
was asked about that a few minutes ago, he said,
next update Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So this wasn't quite.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Uh, hey, stell, stuff's out, Steph's out. Down three to one?
Are we really not gonna see Steph?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You will not see Steph? You think you think I
think it's a final? Okay, throw the damn towel. Okay.
But they needed Jimmy Butler to come up big. Yeah,
Jimmy Butler came up very small today. Yeah, did not.
He was definitely not much. Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
He was not Jalen b We can't, we can't bring
everything back to Jalen, but it really is is not
the point of our universe? Hey, yours Jalen Bryant. Listen,
Jalen Brunson, And what have you painted a fresco.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Of him or anything you know on your walls or
like a nice mural al forresh go, Do you thank
him before every sandwich you eat?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Him?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And and Bridges because Bridges had a big game too,
him and Bridges and Kat finally had a big game
and added it look your head, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Thank you Jalen, Thank you JB. Big point out of this.
Obviously you you celebrate Jalen Bronson in his thirty nine points,
and he was spectacular in the second half. But then
the reality is that Tom Thibodau has been able to
lean into the philosophy that he's espoused since the beginning
of time, and at least for now, in this round,
in this time and space, it's working. It's it's all starters,
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all the time. Just ten points off the bench today.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Who can we'll live tonight? Who cares about tomorrow? Back
in the New York group, we got to about tomorrow.
Look Jalen Brunson what he has done just to just
to be clear, tonight, thirty nine points for Brunson, twelve assists.
It was the Brunson Tatum, Brunson Tatum. It was an
incredible game. Show two incredible players back and forth, and
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then of course Tatum gets hurt and it looks like
it's in a killing. We don't know anything, but it
looks like an Achilles. It walked and talked like in Achilles.
So we'll see what happens with him in MRI tomorrow.
But the Knicks were winning this game regardless they were
going up three to one. Jalen Brunson has not only
become a star right now, he's a top five player
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in the NBA, he has become a top five player
overall in the league Finn outside of Jannis and Jokic,
I don't know that there's another player I want over him.
And yes I'm biased being a Knicks fan obviously, but
with the clutch shots that he makes, with what he
can do, I know that he's not the classic example
of a star player. Look, he's not Jason Tatum, who
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my goodness watching him be able to get the shots
he gets off. No one gets his own shot off
like Jason Tatum does. Doesn't matter what it is, he's
going to hoist a shot over you. You can't double
him because he's too big to pass out. The out
of the double team, you can't really go crazy for
him one on one because he will blow by you,
not just drive by you like Jannis Ken or Jokic Ken.
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He will blow by you and get to the hoop
when in two steps. He's just he has a skill
set unlike any other player in the NBA. But if
you ask me right now who I would want over Brunson,
I don't know that there's a guy, because there's the
The clutch gene that he has is a reason why
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he's the clutch player of the year. I mean, Jannis
and Jokic incredibly talented to the two best players obviously,
But outside of that, do I want Sga over Brunson.
I know Brunson makes all the big shots. I know
the effect he has on the team. Do I want
him over Anthony Edwards?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I'm pretty sure Jalen bruns is not gonna say yeah no,
this game wasn't my fault. I know I played good defense,
pretty sure not gonna get that. I'm gonna get the leadership,
I'm gonna get the effect on the court, and I'm
gonna get an incredible performance even though physically he shouldn't
have it, but he can find a way to lean
in and draw contact on the foul and get a
shot off. He can get a straight shot off, he
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can get a he can get a layup off. His
fade away is what makes him the player he is.
He get a fade away on a three, a fade
away in the lane. It makes him unguardable. You can't
you can't get too aggressive on it because you will
find a way to get around you. He's got that quickness,
even though it's not speed. Again, I don't know if
there's another guy in the league that I can say, well,
he's accomplished X, Y and Z.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
So yes him over Jay le Brun another guy. I'm
telling you that. Wait, you don't go Lebron's quotes, You'll
getch and Giannis.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I'll take over Brunt one hundred percent. I got I
get But I don't know that there's another guy outside
of that. But there's not one. I would take over
him with those two.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But he's got to finish the job like that. And
that's the thing, right if we if we're going to
go into the playoffs and say, well, this team hasn't
done it, this team hasn't done it, show me you're
too young. Whether it's the timber Wolves or or the thunder. Well,
they haven't done it yet, and at this point, Jayleen
Brun says a lot of great moments. They really haven't
done anything, anything on a grand scale yet. Right, Yes,
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you've invigorated the New York market. Yes, you got some
overtime for some police and first responders who had to
take to the streets today to make sure everybody was safe.
As they started, you know, yelling, hey, bring on the
pacers and whatever else and go New York, go and
singing back in the New York group. That would have
been the ultimate opportunity. Right Ace Freely suddenly is a
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top a marquee somewhere and he starts playing it. Sure,
I mean, come on, sell some albums and move some units.
But you know, for guys that have done it, you
talk about Giannis and Jokic. I always still want I
want a little bit of KD in the right environment.
But you know, he's becoming a vagabond. Can't wait to
see what uniform he's wearing next year. Sga and Ant
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haven't done anything yet. Luca is there got them. They
got the MAVs to the finals a year ago. I
don't need him to be in shape five years from now.
I need him now. And he's still that guy as
he keeps rolling. So uh. And then the aforementioned Jason Tatum,
who's been debated all over the place. Right, Yes, Jalen
Brown won the MVP in the playoffs last year, but
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Jason Tatum was nothing short of spectacular at every turn.
So yeah, that we get into that long list. But
is there any guy I like watching more than Jalen Brunson. No,
as a southpaw of you know, short, stocky stature who
is more quick than fast in the moments until well
everybody else caught up and bypassed me, as you know,
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genetics will do that to you. No, I love watching
the guy work because he works out of such odds
slots or like, all right, that shut down, Well, no,
it's not. He's still finding a way to get a
shot off, still finding a way to find a passing lane.
So I'll give you that. In terms of my enjoyment
of NBA basketball, few that I like watching more that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Great made up award being a clutch play it's good. Yeah, trophy,
Yeah it's great. One was mad now, But look, I
don't know that there's anybody in the NBA that you
want the ball in their hands at the end of
the game more than Jalen bruns But again, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
That's where you.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Lucas, why Curry why?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
He just wants to show you. Why did you name
two Orlando Max because they're both more clutch than him.
They are not.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
If they were more clutch, they would have won that
made up clutch Player of the Year award, but they
didn't win made up. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Somebody's got
even if you make it up. Somebody's got money.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I hate the guy, but he's more clutch. Oh he is, no, stop,
he is not well in the playoffs, he's come up
with bas not more clutch.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
We got more NBA coming up in ninety seconds, But first,
I'm sorry, we have more NFL coming up in a
little bit. And I wanted to say that the NFL,
but more NBA right now because Okay, I hear you
with the with the Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But it's a fun discussion player in the history of
the NBA. But it's fun that he's launched into that
conversation for a guy that was going to be a
second unit and then at plus for Dallas who then
became a nick and has now become a cultural icon
there right. I mean you can talk about steps and
Nico Harrison doing the job, Nico harrit who had a
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big night, Nico Harrison huge, huge comeback effort. You want
to talk about comebacks and building back from a huge deficit,
he might have done it tonight.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So the other big story in the NBA, I mean
clearly there is you know, the Knixer up three to
one and Chalome is everywhere, and I mean clearly that's
the big But Michael Jordan coming back to the NBA
was announced earlier today. He's going to be part of
the NBA and NBC coverage. We're back to then. I
love the nineties.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Then I'll watch. You want to watch vh one, It's
pretty good. Just have a podcast at a rewatch. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And you know, we talked about earlier in the show
about I'm hopeful that Jordan can cut through and be
a star again because you think about the NBA trying
to grow, growing and trying to grow in the last
twenty years without the biggest star the game has ever
known really be relevant at all. Yes, Jordan was an
owner for a while, but he's been off the radar
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screen for so long. He doesn't do anything for the NBA.
And you think the guy who was the biggest star
in the history of the game, the NBA was going
to need him to help grow and he's not been around.
So I hope he comes back and he becomes somebody
that everybody wants to hear about. But the thing is
Jordan coming back, that's great, but he's got to come
(27:39):
back and he's got to be a difference maker. He
can't just be someone who comes in and just says
grand vacuus things. This guy's great, this guy's great. Why
I think he can be really good and potentially be
what Tom Brady wasn't this year is because Brady when
he goes on the air, right, he was always telling
you Brady's gonna come on, look at what he's doing
at Fox. And Brady played it sottle bit too much, right.
(28:01):
And I understand that there's a lot of players in
the league that when they become analysts, they're still worried
about their standing. There's to worry about the players they
see that they still talk to. That's gonna text them
that's gonna say something to them, and Brady, being not
too far removed from the game, I could tell that
he still holds back a little bit. And you want
the full Brady. You want him to say, Hey, this
guy thinks this guy is this, this guy is this,
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and he's not quite there yet, right, So Brady knows
I got to be able to be a little more critical.
But the world is littered with analysts who we thought
were gonna be great, but when it came down to it,
I'm holding back just because I don't want to get
a text from a guy that I talked to, Oh
you said this, you said this, And I'm defending myself.
But Jordan is really in the IDGAF part of his life.
(28:44):
He doesn't care. There's no players he needs to be
beholden too, there's no relationships that he really needs. He
has been out of the spotlight. It's not like he's
gonna come and criticize Charles Barkley and they're gonna fight
in feud. It's Jordan. It's a player that has universal
respect and and the fact that he's been away from
the game, well, he doesn't need to worry about relationships
or saying something. Shaq's not gonna talk to me. Now
(29:07):
Shack's been gone and retired on TV for the last
fifteen years. Don't have to worry about what Aunt Edwards
is gonna say about him, or what Brunson or how
Jason Tatum or anybody else canna say it. He can
come on and just let it go, right, He went on,
and he was okay with helping to blow torch the
memory of the Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
In the nineties.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I took that personally in this And yes, I feuded
with this guy and this guy and this guy. He
feuded with guys. He didn't have a lot of best friends.
So we knew coming from this that Jordan had his
adversaries and people he feuded with in the nineties and
during the eighties or his NBA career, And now here
you are all these years later, and yeah, I'm still
comfortable talking about that. There's no sacred cows, there's no
player relationships he has to protect. He can come out
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and he can be himself and he can say stuff
to make whoa Look at what Jordan just said here
about Wemby. Look at what Jordan just said about Luca.
Oh my goodness, he doesn't have to worry about that.
That's a big advantage Jordan has in being in the media.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
What's great is it's in a nebulous contributor category. At
this point. It's like you were around the game. He
got into a Hall of fame. What did I get
in for you contributed? Okay, cool? But whatever, I don't know,
it doesn't matter. But for this prospect, Look, it comes
down to this. For for Jordan, right omni present in
terms of highlights, invoking the memory of and let's face it,
(30:21):
he hasn't missed a shot yet in his retirement when
it comes to actually playing the game, right, because nobody
remembers any of them misses or games loss. It's all
about you lest remember his career all about championships, right
is it is? It's a spiritual adventure when you go
back into the history. But he's a guy that I
(30:44):
if I'm in that room talking about trying to bring
him back into the fold, I want the guy that's
on the iPad in the Last Dance, all right, give
me the candor and whatever the role becomes, whether he's
breaking down film, whether he's talking to gods, whether he's
at a panel, whether it's just him in a pre
record to clip with some background music setting up a game,
whatever it is, he's got to agree to be the
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guy that he was in his Hall of Fame speech
right where it's everything is as exposed. I got beef
with you and you and you over there, right, and
I'm gonna lay at bare And while this is a
celebratory night, damn it, I'm getting my my licks in
like I did with Steve Kerr at that time that
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I popped him upside the head, right, all of those
and that, and that's gonna be it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
It's it's for for Jordan, however you're gonna use him.
It's it's about the candor. And to your point about
Tom Brady, Yeah, he's just a couple of years removed.
He's got guys he played with still in the league.
He's got a lot of guys he played with that
are now coaches in the league, assistance at the DAIS whatever.
So maybe some punches pulled. I suspect in year two
(31:52):
Tom Brady will be a little bit different guy, having
having had a hope, everything that was brought to bear
in the off season and some harsh criticisms of what
he was. Hell, he's still responding to stuff about that
roast going. They paid me twenty five million dollars. Who's
saying no to that?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Like how far it's gonna go? You don't know. But
for Jordan, yeah, omni president. That brand is everything to
the league and has been. It's been a feeder system
for players, for coaches, for college staffs all the way
through and now it's back front and center as the
NBA gets the gets back on NBC. Yeah, it's an
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absolutely monumental task. I can't wait to see what form
it takes. His gambling takes are going to be off
the chains. Oh well, that's it, right, here's your parlays.
That's gone to one man who has ten k on
this game, Michael Jeffrey Jordan. I'm telling you it's good.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
The segment is gonna be And I took that personally,
and he goes. And when I saw the over under
for Karl Anthony Towns points was dropped from nineteen and
a half to sixteen and a half, I took that
personally and I put ten thousand dollars on Karl Anthony
Town's going over sixteen and a half points in Game
four like, and that's the segment. And I took that personally,
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that's Jordan's gamblings, and I took it straight to the
bet MGM and await we win. Exit up out of Fresco,
Exit Swollen Dove, Jason Smith and Mike Harmon coming up next.
We got a big story out of the NFL. There
was a team that got royally screwed today. No, they
really did. That's next, the ball not the bolt. Well,
if the pope wasn't underperformed, he could have gotten the
(33:29):
balls number one pick in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Oh no, you didn't do it. I'll tell you. Pope
is overrated. Hope overrated eight seven seven No, who got
screwed more than anybody will tell you?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Next Fox, be sure to catch live editions of The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific. Sorry for being emotional.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I'm just pissed off and as a leader, that pisces
me off.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Why is Derek Carr hanging out with marcon.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Ah clearly not the leader. Jalen Brunson is clearly, clearly,
clearly well different styles of leadership.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Jason Smith, Mike Carmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
We all get there in our own special way.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
On Jalen Brunson night, congratulations to the Knicks, end Jalen
Brunson for an unbelievable performance. Jalen Brunson now officially this
performance his performance the greatest.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Basketball player in the history of the game. That's your take, Will,
But that's just like you're a bronze man. No, no, no,
it's science. It's science. It's not though it's absolute science
in your head. So we're waiting to find out. No
new news on Jason Tatum.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
The injury that he suffered at the end of the
game tonight looked really bad. MRI on tap for him,
could be in achilles again, nothing looked good with that
injury at the end of the Celtics loss to the
Knicks earlier tonight.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Uh so we'll have more NBA.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
If we hear anything in the next few minutes, obviously
we'll let you know, but not expecting anything until tomorrow.
So yeah, the Well picks, you could say, boy, they
feel screwed down three to one without their best player,
but there was actually a team more screwed than that
earlier today believe it or not, team more screwed than
that is. It's not no, the Rockies are just terrible.
(35:15):
There's a team that got screwed and that team is
the Dallas Cowboys. Because the NFL announces, hey, we have
our first game of the year to announce the opening
game is going to be the Eagles. They will celebrate
their Super Bowl championship and raise the banner and playing
(35:35):
the role of the Washington Generals will be the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Seven point dogs forty six and a half.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Here over on, the Cowboys get to play and have
to play the Eagles as they raised their championship banner
on Thursday eight in a game where the Cowboys are
going to get killed in. So there's that as well,
So it's not just showing up. At least you could say, well,
the Cowboys will watch a Super Bowl celebration happen. Won't
(36:01):
be their own, but at least they'll watch one. But boy,
Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, hey, you're here just to
lose forty five to seven, all right, that's what's gonna
happen because we're still the champs and oh, you think
we're gonna have a Super Bowl hangover. Yeah, not against
you or not? Oh, first game of the year against
the Cowboys. Okay, if they were playing the Jaguars or
the Panthers, I would say, oh yeah, I could easily
(36:23):
see it's a Super Bowl hangover for the Eagles, not.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Against the Cowboys. Good luck Dallas, good luck season win
totals sitting at a nice meaty seven and a half
for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Some of it.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
You try to get into the logic and Wednesday we'll
get the full two seventy two and we'll pick every game.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
From start to every game. Well, every game, we'll rank
every game. What's the best game? What's Game two seventy two.
I kind of want to do that this year Jags Titans,
that'll be Game two seventy ten.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, but we but we get cam Ward. Oh and
maybe Trevor Lawrence gets to be elite now that he's
got Travis Hunter. By the way, great story with that
woman and Travis Hunter on the plane this. Oh yeah,
every once in a while you get a feel good
story and and all. If you didn't see it helps
a woman get her luggage up into the overhead and
(37:12):
then chatting it up and realize, eh, this guy's kind
of a big deal, but just a nice young gentleman.
But yeah, for the Cowboys, this might be the NFL
saying it's as good as it gets. Now. We'll still
get them on Thanksgiving and we'll still have some The
brand is too huge to ignore. But why not get
it while we still have some questions about what they
(37:33):
might become, especially after the trade for George Pickens and
everything that maybe there's a little bit of excitement for
this divisional look because I hate divisional matchups in Week one,
I hate that. But I'll guarantee you this.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Last year's season opener was the highest rated regular season
game in NFL. His right, Twenty eight point nine million
people watched the Ravens and the Chiefs when everybody thought
Isaiah Likely was going to be the greatest tight end
in the history of the game.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
I'm spending all my free agent money and Isaiah Likely
don't do it. Don't do it? Oh you did it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's gonna look like Jaggs Titans. Compared to how many
people are gonna watch Opening Night Eagles and the Cowboys.
The Cowboys Opening Night, this is gonna do thirty million plus.
It's gonna do what the oscars used to do when
the Oscars went. Then it's big hated when everybody watched
the Oscars. When thirty million people watch Billy Crystal, and
again we're going back to the nineties like with Jordan.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Tonight, it's gonna come out and Hannibal elector Master.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Uh, here's my impression of Paul Songa, says Hannibal Lecter,
which he actually did.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I see thirty.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Million people, this will be Hey, they're getting everything they
can out of the Cowboys tonight, just in case they stink.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Let's get it because.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Look, we remember everybody watched last Thanksgiving was an incredible number,
and the Cowboys were done.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
There was no Dack and people still watched. Well, you
get away from your family, you're in a trip to
fan induced coma, you're hiding, you're hate watching. You're betting, dude,
it'll be.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
An amazing number to watch the Cowboys lose by three touchdowns.
At least it'll be an amazing number.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Eagles also announced as the Black Friday game against the Bears. Yeah,
why not?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Right?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Why not? The Bear is also the twentieth of December,
and so they'll play on Christmas as well. So I
got that going for me, which I guess mean that
more people are coming around to your thing that the
bears are gonna be goody.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Well, then on you, Well, then you're gonna get chief
charges Wi will probably be the highest streaming game of
all time. That'll be that'll be an incredible Well.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
It's on YouTube, right, so it's a free d It's
like we used to do with what we called the
unfortunately the drug dealer analogy of hair. There's a taste
of what it looks like on our platform. Oh you
want to watch this all year? Do you do? I conformable?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
We all have YouTube.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Oh great, that's awesome, we get to watch Yeah, this
goes over to YouTube TV week with all these bells
and whistles.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Wait, hey, you like that. Hey, let me just show
you what's happening over here right now. But let this
not detract from the fact that, boy, the cowboys got
screwed today.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
So it's the Cowboys on. But you're gonna get killed, okay. Yeah,
And then you get into the fights about you know,
the draft lottery because Dallas was a big winner here,
so it kind of gets uh.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
It's one thing to lose and say, hey, you're gonna
get to lose in front of a national audience. Congratulations
Dallas Cowboys. Hey, things looking great for the Wings and
the Mavericks, but not you, Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
It's kind of looking like the folks that were hanging
out in the barn in Centers.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Exit out bout a Fresca, Exit swollen Dome. The Jason
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Gives you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. Things starting to get
I don't want to say interesting, but.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Maybe not doom and gloom. I think if you're watching
in the live stock market, that is a ticker. Here's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's because I watched the Knicks, who there's no deficit
they can overcome. Oh boy ah, the Warriors have cut
the Timberwolves. That was twenty to five right now is
a sorry to ten right now. It is a ten
point lead for the Wolves, one fifteen to one oh
five fifty five seconds left to go. The Wolves, on
the cusp of taking a three to one lead a
(01:14):
stranglehold on this series. They would join the Knicks and
the Pacers with three games to one leads in their
respective conference semifinals. Are you ready? I told you last
Monday Nicks Pacers Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
People left it hi Now no one's laughing. No, the
early week fever dream is now coming into focus. Go
New York, Go New York, Go, Go New York, Go
New York.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Go.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So we'll keep you updated again.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Still a ten point lead now thirty seconds left to go,
so the Warriors not being able to extend the game.
For the t Wolves, it'll be a three to one
lead for Minnesota. Joining us now on the hotline, fresh
off an NBA night where this has been a day
longtime NBA insiders on Twitter at the Steinline. Check them
(02:02):
out on Substack. Just finishing a big night on the
Dallas Mavericks who win the NBA Draft Lottery despite having
just a one point eight percent chance of winning. Mark,
what's happening man? Congratulations on whatever you did to help
the Mavericks get that number one overall.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Pick would love to tell you I had a roll
in it, but I don't know what forces could could have.
I don't know what forces were involved in that, because
that was a shocker.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
What was it? What was you seeing?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It happen, you're seeing it happen in real time. What's
going through your head when you see the Mavericks getting it?
Of course, all the machinations of the Luca trade and
what's going forward going through your head at that time.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Well, I was on a live podcast with my friends
from the LS MAVs and you know, there's four of
us on the show and lifelong MAVs fan next to me,
and honestly, like I knew we were doing a live
show in conjunction with the lottery, but wasn't even prepared
(03:05):
to discuss the idea of Cooper Flag ending up a
Maverick because the MAVs lottery history was wretched. They had
been in the draft lottery sixteen times previously, nine times
they ended up exactly where they were projected to, seven
times they fell. They had never moved up in their
(03:26):
lottery history. And we're talking some years in the nineties
when they won eleven and thirteen games in back to
back seasons and ended up with a number four pick
two times in a row, missing out on the likes
of Shack and Alonzo Mourning and Chris Weber and Penny Hardaway.
So this is a franchise that has known little apart
(03:48):
from draft lottery heartbreak. So after what's happened over the
past three months and then to win this lottery with
Cooper Flag in it in the wake of the Luka
Doncige trade, I'm actually a little weary. You can probably send.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
It in my voice.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
It's been a long, long unit, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But here's the thing, Mark, is that, Okay, everything that
went on with the Mavericks the last few months, obviously
you're looking at a sunny side up for them. They
have money to spend in the in the summer for
a big star because they're not paying Luca the three
hundred and fifty million dollars he was due.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So it's like, okay, hey, we.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Have money to go get a star to team him
up with Ad and Kyrie when he gets healthy, and
the future for the MAVs, Hey maybe looking pretty good.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
All of a sudden, it's we can go pay money
for a star to play with Ad, Kyrie when he
gets healthy and Cooper Flagg. Suddenly the Mavericks are like, hey,
we went through a really bad last couple of months,
but we could be back at the top of the
West quicker than we expected.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
To be, well, they don't have money to spend, so
that just because they're not giving a super Max to Luca,
they still have a lot of money invested in both
Anthony Davis. They've got a new deal to do with
Kyrie Irving and the off season. But look, getting Cooper
Flagg obviously it changes the complex. You know, it just
changes the mood in town dramatically. There is now a
(05:12):
new young foundational star potentially to build around and to
try to start winning the trust back of the fan
base that you know, frankly, that trust was shattered in
a dramatic way. So after just three months of very
loud doom and gloom all over town, I mean, there's
(05:36):
no question that this is this is going to spark
an unforeseen burst of excitement. I mean it's crazy that
I ran you guys through that Dallas Mavericks Draft lottery
misery history. When you factor in the Dallas Wings and
Paige Becker's, like, in the span of a few weeks
(05:57):
they've won two lotteries and now Page Becker's is a
Dallas Wing and Copra Flag is going to be a
Dallas Maverick. So I mean it would have been hard
to imagine that kind of scenario given again, what the
you know, draft lottery, disappointment after disappointment, and there are
still a zillion questions to ask, But I mean, this
(06:19):
is this is a burst of good news and a
victory that I mean, I think a lot of MAVs
fans in Dallas were wondering how long would it be
before we experienced victory again? So this is this was
a shocking outcome. And yeah, it's gonna be really interesting
to see kind of where the Mavericks go from here.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Now, Mark naturally, I have to take it to the
tinfoil hat conspiracies. I don't think I'm going to get
my license to put NBA logos on them. But you know,
we celebrated or commemorated the fortieth anniversary at the Frozen
Envelope yesterday, and then there's been a number of sequences
through about the history where it just so happens that
(07:04):
a city gets a big star like this. I mean,
how does the NBA address this? Do they need to?
I mean, for all the conspiracy theorists out there, look how.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
They address it? As a tremendous question, because like if
you had a dime for everyone who tweeted rigged in
response to the Mavericks getting the number one pick. No,
we can you know, Jason could probably buy the Knicks
from Jim Dolans with that hall And look, nothing I'm
(07:38):
going to say is going to convince people. People who
want to believe that the lottery was rigged will believe it.
And there's nothing. Look, I've been in the I was
in the draft lottery room at the Victor we Minyama Lottery.
I've watched how it goes down. It is you know,
(07:59):
if they are rigging it, they are magicians because there's
there's fifteen media people in the room and you know,
watching how they do it with this high tech hopper like.
But I realized, nothing, nothing I can say is going
to change people's minds who are convinced that this was
(08:20):
all some big setup, and it will you know, the
next time we hear from Adam Silver, which will probably
be a press conference at the NBA Finals, this will
one hundred percent be a question. And I don't know
exactly what his answer is because this is this you
know is you you know it goes back to the
supposed frozen envelope in nineteen eighty five when Jason's Knicks
(08:44):
got Patrick Ewing forty years ago. And you know, again,
I I do not buy into it. I don't believe it.
I've watched, I've been in the room. I've watched it
happen with my own eyes. The Ernst and Young is
administering the lottery. I don't really think they want to
participate in any Shenanigan. But but like I said, I
(09:08):
just I know that there's I know there's nothing I
can say because, like I said, I was on a
live YouTube show dls MAVs for the All City Network
and our YouTube show was flooded with five hundred people
shouting rig rig rigges.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
It happened.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
So and this is the fan base that wanted to
see it happen. So it's like, it's your question is excellent.
What is Adam Silver going to say the next time
he's at a stage, Because the perception is that the
NBA is pulling all these springs like it's wrestling, and
it's something they've been combating since before you again, going
(09:48):
back to the eighties when I was in high school.
And you know, I think they just have to live
with it because I don't I don't foresee them change.
You know, they're not going you know, they might make
tweaks to the lottery. There's a lot of discussion tonight
that the flatten lottery odds. You know, the teams that
are really bad are not haven't won recent lotteries, and
(10:12):
you know, so there might I'm sure that's going to
be a discussion point too. You know, are the lottery
odds where they need to be? The flattened lottery odds?
You know the Jazz, You know, the Jazz won seventeen games,
they had a fourteen percent shot to win the lottery
and fell as far as they could. They dropped a
number five. But you could also say, you know what,
(10:32):
the Jazz tanked all year long. They were openly, blatantly
tanking from minute one. Do they deserve the number one
pick in that scenario? So, I mean, that's a whole
separate debate.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
But I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I can't wait to hear what Adam Silver is going
to say about it, because this is this might be
the loudest that we've ever heard the cries of.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
It was red.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
It was red, It was rad I mean, it was
just it was an instantaneous, widespread react and what is
it where six hours removed from the draft lottery and
if you go on Twitter, you'll still find those comments
are just flying every two seconds like this is just
the universal reaction to this.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
NBA insider Mark Stein with us, Jason Smith, Mike Carbon
live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, Mark,
so to move on to the action tonight. The Knicks
win in a big way. They're up three to one.
The te Wolves close out the Warriors. You're making a
little bit interesting down the stretch. But both those series
are now three to one. Do either the Celtics or
(11:32):
the Warriors have a chance to come back in this series?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
I don't see it. I just look Stephen Curry. You know,
I imagine he will try to convince the Warriors to
let him go in Game five, but you know Game
six was always the more likely, and there might not
be a Game six at this point. And look, your Nick,
Jalen Brunson was fantastic tonight, and I'm sure you're on
(12:00):
out eleven because he was that good. And I mean,
you guys know, I'm a huge Jalen Brunson fan. I
watched him very closely for the first four years with
career here in Dallas, and he just, you know, just
continues to edge his game for it. But this is
this is a tough night in the NBA because you
just saw the wildest.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Things of the pendulum.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
With the Dallas Mavericks who've been in purgatory for the
last three months, and let's face it, it was a self
inflicted purgatory. Nobody forced them to trade Luka Doncic a
matter of months after a trip to the NBA Finals,
and suddenly the Mavericks, without warning, get this get out
of jail card one, you know, maybe the maybe the
(12:44):
maybe the best to get out of jail card that
we've ever seen by virtue of winning the Cooper Flag
Draft lottery. And then on the flip side, defending champions
Jason Tatum playing his own just masterpiece game and sustains
what I mean, I don't I'm not a doctor, and
you know, I can't confirm this diagnosed because this is
(13:08):
not reporting, but we all saw it, and I think
we all suspected, and we all we all fear, you know,
that it could be an Achilles, and that is just
an absolutely devastating situation because look, this is more now
for Boston than just losing this series and you know,
losing their title defense. I mean, if if that injury
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is as bad as it looked, I mean, Jason Tatum,
like Damian Lillard, is probably going to lose a season
because the Achilles injury. Again, if that's what it is,
we do not have that confirmed, but that's what it
looked like. I mean, that's the most dreaded injury in basketball,
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and it almost always sidelines a player for a full season.
And I'm literally looking up at the TV and watching
Tatum being helped up the floor and in a wheelchair
after the game. It's just crushing to watch that. And
the Celtics already this summer was going to be so
pivotal and difficult for them to deal with the financial
(14:11):
realities of having a star laden team and how they're
going to go forward, because it's in the new NBA.
It's not only is your owner willing to pay the taxes,
it's the team building restrictions that come with all the taxes.
Like Steve Ballmer would spend any amount of money if
he could, but once you go into that second apron
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you just can't make changes to your team. And so
Boston was looking at likely having to break up this
team even if they want it all again, and now
with Tatum suffering this devastating injury, and if it's as
bad as it looked, I mean, Boston's hard decisions just
got even tougher.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
He's on Twitter at the Steinline. That is at the Steinline.
Check them out on substack as well. It is Mark
Stein Marks. Always appreciate your time. Next time we talk
will be previewing the Knicks Pacers Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yeah, that is. That is going to be a really
interesting match, really interesting. But I'm happy for you, man,
Like I said, don't let my uh, don't let my
dower Tones spoil your night. No, enjoy your enjoy your
Knicks man, enjoy it.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Well, he's decided, Jalen Brunson is the greatest basketball player alive.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah he is. Yeah, at the top
of that list. And you have it, then you have
Jordan and Lebron and all that, but Jalen bruns is
at the top.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Is your number one nick of all time?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Are you kidding right now?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
He is sure?
Speaker 1 (15:30):
I mean, I don't know more than you ing, Yeah, probably,
I mean, it's amazing, it's amazing what he can do.
Oh and and thank you for for him from from Dallas.
By the way, just want to you know Chris.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
That he's tremendous. I absolutely love him. And look, it's
even if Tatum is done for the series, as we imagine.
I mean, this is what the Knicks have done in
this series. The only lead for thirty odd minutes in
a series that spans two hundred minutes, that have a
three to one lead. They have been clutched at the
right time.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Mark Stein again at the Steinline on Twitter. Mark, as always,
thank you so much. We'll talk to you next few
days as the playoffs continue.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
All right, guys, be good, see you Mark.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Thanks, Hey, listen, Will we will put Jalen Brunson in
the proper category, the great proper category.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Coming up next, we got more on this.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
We have more on exactly why Michael Jordan can really
succeed coming back to basketball as a broadcast. Well, you
got a bet on yourself. It's next right here, Jason
and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app
Nick Sure.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Up three one over the Boston Celtics. Brunson, Brunson, you
score thirty nine against the Celtics, three to one lead,
three to one lead.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
See your pacers in the next round. Now it's my
own version of hot yoga. What what is what? I
dance along to this song? Really?
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Absolutely all right, get the hips work and I'm just
picturing you, like in purple shorts and a leo's hard,
like you know, like one of those one piece wrestler leads.
Oh yeah, absolutely, picture baby, Let's go purple of course.
Ah The Jadon Jewells Show with.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
My best friend Mike Carmon live from the tirerack dot
Com Studios. Both games in the books, the Warriors go
down three to one to the Timberwolves. And look, I've
said it the last nights. It's pretty simple. When Steph
Curry doesn't play, the Timberwolves will win.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Game one.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Warriors had a big game, Steph had a big game
until he got hurt. They were able to win. It
was a huge achievement. The Wolves are able to adjust.
The Warriors are just not built to win without Steph.
It's hard to say. Okay, let's let's divvy up his
responsibilities and we'll have a different kind of rotation. Some
teams can do that. The war can't. They're not built
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to win without him. And I'm telling you, I know
he said I'm not coming back till game six. But
what did I say last week? If the if the
Warriors are down three to one, is Steph Curry really
not gonna play in game five? And when Steve Kerr
was asked about that a few minutes ago, he said,
next update Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So this wasn't quite.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Uh, hey, stell, stuff's out, Steph's out. Down three to one?
Are we really not gonna see Steph?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
You will not see Steph? You think you think I
think it's a final? Okay, throw the damn towel. Okay.
But they needed Jimmy Butler to come up big. Yeah,
Jimmy Butler came up very small today. Yeah, did not.
He was definitely not much. Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
He was not Jalen b We can't, we can't bring
everything back to Jalen, but it really is is not
the point of our universe? Hey, yours Jalen Bryant. Listen,
Jalen Brunson, And what have you painted a fresco.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Of him or anything you know on your walls or
like a nice mural al forresh go, Do you thank
him before every sandwich you eat?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Him?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
And and Bridges because Bridges had a big game too,
him and Bridges and Kat finally had a big game
and added it look your head, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Thank you Jalen, Thank you JB. Big point out of this.
Obviously you you celebrate Jalen Bronson in his thirty nine points,
and he was spectacular in the second half. But then
the reality is that Tom Thibodau has been able to
lean into the philosophy that he's espoused since the beginning
of time, and at least for now, in this round,
in this time and space, it's working. It's it's all starters,
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all the time. Just ten points off the bench today.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Who can we'll live tonight? Who cares about tomorrow? Back
in the New York group, we got to about tomorrow.
Look Jalen Brunson what he has done just to just
to be clear, tonight, thirty nine points for Brunson, twelve assists.
It was the Brunson Tatum, Brunson Tatum. It was an
incredible game. Show two incredible players back and forth, and
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then of course Tatum gets hurt and it looks like
it's in a killing. We don't know anything, but it
looks like an Achilles. It walked and talked like in Achilles.
So we'll see what happens with him in MRI tomorrow.
But the Knicks were winning this game regardless they were
going up three to one. Jalen Brunson has not only
become a star right now, he's a top five player
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in the NBA, he has become a top five player
overall in the league Finn outside of Jannis and Jokic,
I don't know that there's another player I want over him.
And yes I'm biased being a Knicks fan obviously, but
with the clutch shots that he makes, with what he
can do, I know that he's not the classic example
of a star player. Look, he's not Jason Tatum, who
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my goodness watching him be able to get the shots
he gets off. No one gets his own shot off
like Jason Tatum does. Doesn't matter what it is, he's
going to hoist a shot over you. You can't double
him because he's too big to pass out. The out
of the double team, you can't really go crazy for
him one on one because he will blow by you,
not just drive by you like Jannis Ken or Jokic Ken.
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He will blow by you and get to the hoop
when in two steps. He's just he has a skill
set unlike any other player in the NBA. But if
you ask me right now who I would want over Brunson,
I don't know that there's a guy, because there's the
The clutch gene that he has is a reason why
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he's the clutch player of the year. I mean, Jannis
and Jokic incredibly talented to the two best players obviously,
But outside of that, do I want Sga over Brunson.
I know Brunson makes all the big shots. I know
the effect he has on the team. Do I want
him over Anthony Edwards?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I'm pretty sure Jalen bruns is not gonna say yeah no,
this game wasn't my fault. I know I played good defense,
pretty sure not gonna get that. I'm gonna get the leadership,
I'm gonna get the effect on the court, and I'm
gonna get an incredible performance even though physically he shouldn't
have it, but he can find a way to lean
in and draw contact on the foul and get a
shot off. He can get a straight shot off, he
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can get a he can get a layup off. His
fade away is what makes him the player he is.
He get a fade away on a three, a fade
away in the lane. It makes him unguardable. You can't
you can't get too aggressive on it because you will
find a way to get around you. He's got that quickness,
even though it's not speed. Again, I don't know if
there's another guy in the league that I can say, well,
he's accomplished X, Y and Z.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
So yes him over Jay le Brun another guy. I'm
telling you that. Wait, you don't go Lebron's quotes, You'll
getch and Giannis.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I'll take over Brunt one hundred percent. I got I
get But I don't know that there's another guy outside
of that. But there's not one. I would take over
him with those two.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
But he's got to finish the job like that. And
that's the thing, right if we if we're going to
go into the playoffs and say, well, this team hasn't
done it, this team hasn't done it, show me you're
too young. Whether it's the timber Wolves or or the thunder. Well,
they haven't done it yet, and at this point, Jayleen
Brun says a lot of great moments. They really haven't
done anything, anything on a grand scale yet. Right, Yes,
(23:05):
you've invigorated the New York market. Yes, you got some
overtime for some police and first responders who had to
take to the streets today to make sure everybody was safe.
As they started, you know, yelling, hey, bring on the
pacers and whatever else and go New York, go and
singing back in the New York group. That would have
been the ultimate opportunity. Right Ace Freely suddenly is a
(23:27):
top a marquee somewhere and he starts playing it. Sure,
I mean, come on, sell some albums and move some units.
But you know, for guys that have done it, you
talk about Giannis and Jokic. I always still want I
want a little bit of KD in the right environment.
But you know, he's becoming a vagabond. Can't wait to
see what uniform he's wearing next year. Sga and Ant
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haven't done anything yet. Luca is there got them. They
got the MAVs to the finals a year ago. I
don't need him to be in shape five years from now.
I need him now. And he's still that guy as
he keeps rolling. So uh. And then the aforementioned Jason Tatum,
who's been debated all over the place. Right, Yes, Jalen
Brown won the MVP in the playoffs last year, but
(24:13):
Jason Tatum was nothing short of spectacular at every turn.
So yeah, that we get into that long list. But
is there any guy I like watching more than Jalen Brunson. No,
as a southpaw of you know, short, stocky stature who
is more quick than fast in the moments until well
everybody else caught up and bypassed me, as you know,
(24:36):
genetics will do that to you. No, I love watching
the guy work because he works out of such odds
slots or like, all right, that shut down, Well, no,
it's not. He's still finding a way to get a
shot off, still finding a way to find a passing lane.
So I'll give you that. In terms of my enjoyment
of NBA basketball, few that I like watching more that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Great made up award being a clutch play it's good. Yeah, trophy,
Yeah it's great. One was mad now, But look, I
don't know that there's anybody in the NBA that you
want the ball in their hands at the end of
the game more than Jalen bruns But again, yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
That's where you.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Lucas, why Curry why?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
He just wants to show you. Why did you name
two Orlando Max because they're both more clutch than him.
They are not.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
If they were more clutch, they would have won that
made up clutch Player of the Year award, but they
didn't win made up. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Somebody's got
even if you make it up. Somebody's got money.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
I hate the guy, but he's more clutch. Oh he is, no, stop,
he is not well in the playoffs, he's come up
with bas not more clutch.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
We got more NBA coming up in ninety seconds, But first,
I'm sorry, we have more NFL coming up in a
little bit. And I wanted to say that the NFL,
but more NBA right now because Okay, I hear you
with the with the Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But it's a fun discussion player in the history of
the NBA. But it's fun that he's launched into that
conversation for a guy that was going to be a
second unit and then at plus for Dallas who then
became a nick and has now become a cultural icon
there right. I mean you can talk about steps and
Nico Harrison doing the job, Nico harrit who had a
(26:23):
big night, Nico Harrison huge, huge comeback effort. You want
to talk about comebacks and building back from a huge deficit,
he might have done it tonight.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So the other big story in the NBA, I mean
clearly there is you know, the Knixer up three to
one and Chalome is everywhere, and I mean clearly that's
the big But Michael Jordan coming back to the NBA
was announced earlier today. He's going to be part of
the NBA and NBC coverage. We're back to then. I
love the nineties.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Then I'll watch. You want to watch vh one, It's
pretty good. Just have a podcast at a rewatch. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
And you know, we talked about earlier in the show
about I'm hopeful that Jordan can cut through and be
a star again because you think about the NBA trying
to grow, growing and trying to grow in the last
twenty years without the biggest star the game has ever
known really be relevant at all. Yes, Jordan was an
owner for a while, but he's been off the radar
(27:17):
screen for so long. He doesn't do anything for the NBA.
And you think the guy who was the biggest star
in the history of the game, the NBA was going
to need him to help grow and he's not been around.
So I hope he comes back and he becomes somebody
that everybody wants to hear about. But the thing is
Jordan coming back, that's great, but he's got to come
(27:39):
back and he's got to be a difference maker. He
can't just be someone who comes in and just says
grand vacuus things. This guy's great, this guy's great. Why
I think he can be really good and potentially be
what Tom Brady wasn't this year is because Brady when
he goes on the air, right, he was always telling
you Brady's gonna come on, look at what he's doing
at Fox. And Brady played it sottle bit too much, right.
(28:01):
And I understand that there's a lot of players in
the league that when they become analysts, they're still worried
about their standing. There's to worry about the players they
see that they still talk to. That's gonna text them
that's gonna say something to them, and Brady, being not
too far removed from the game, I could tell that
he still holds back a little bit. And you want
the full Brady. You want him to say, Hey, this
guy thinks this guy is this, this guy is this,
(28:23):
and he's not quite there yet, right, So Brady knows
I got to be able to be a little more critical.
But the world is littered with analysts who we thought
were gonna be great, but when it came down to it,
I'm holding back just because I don't want to get
a text from a guy that I talked to, Oh
you said this, you said this, And I'm defending myself.
But Jordan is really in the IDGAF part of his life.
(28:44):
He doesn't care. There's no players he needs to be
beholden too, there's no relationships that he really needs. He
has been out of the spotlight. It's not like he's
gonna come and criticize Charles Barkley and they're gonna fight
in feud. It's Jordan. It's a player that has universal
respect and and the fact that he's been away from
the game, well, he doesn't need to worry about relationships
or saying something. Shaq's not gonna talk to me. Now
(29:07):
Shack's been gone and retired on TV for the last
fifteen years. Don't have to worry about what Aunt Edwards
is gonna say about him, or what Brunson or how
Jason Tatum or anybody else canna say it. He can
come on and just let it go, right, He went on,
and he was okay with helping to blow torch the
memory of the Chicago Bulls.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
In the nineties.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I took that personally in this And yes, I feuded
with this guy and this guy and this guy. He
feuded with guys. He didn't have a lot of best friends.
So we knew coming from this that Jordan had his
adversaries and people he feuded with in the nineties and
during the eighties or his NBA career, And now here
you are all these years later, and yeah, I'm still
comfortable talking about that. There's no sacred cows, there's no
player relationships he has to protect. He can come out
(29:47):
and he can be himself and he can say stuff
to make whoa Look at what Jordan just said here
about Wemby. Look at what Jordan just said about Luca.
Oh my goodness, he doesn't have to worry about that.
That's a big advantage Jordan has in being in the media.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
What's great is it's in a nebulous contributor category. At
this point. It's like you were around the game. He
got into a Hall of fame. What did I get
in for you contributed? Okay, cool? But whatever, I don't know,
it doesn't matter. But for this prospect, Look, it comes
down to this. For for Jordan, right omni present in
terms of highlights, invoking the memory of and let's face it,
(30:21):
he hasn't missed a shot yet in his retirement when
it comes to actually playing the game, right, because nobody
remembers any of them misses or games loss. It's all
about you lest remember his career all about championships, right
is it is? It's a spiritual adventure when you go
back into the history. But he's a guy that I
(30:44):
if I'm in that room talking about trying to bring
him back into the fold, I want the guy that's
on the iPad in the Last Dance, all right, give
me the candor and whatever the role becomes, whether he's
breaking down film, whether he's talking to gods, whether he's
at a panel, whether it's just him in a pre
record to clip with some background music setting up a game,
whatever it is, he's got to agree to be the
(31:06):
guy that he was in his Hall of Fame speech
right where it's everything is as exposed. I got beef
with you and you and you over there, right, and
I'm gonna lay at bare And while this is a
celebratory night, damn it, I'm getting my my licks in
like I did with Steve Kerr at that time that
(31:26):
I popped him upside the head, right, all of those
and that, and that's gonna be it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
It's it's for for Jordan, however you're gonna use him.
It's it's about the candor. And to your point about
Tom Brady, Yeah, he's just a couple of years removed.
He's got guys he played with still in the league.
He's got a lot of guys he played with that
are now coaches in the league, assistance at the DAIS whatever.
So maybe some punches pulled. I suspect in year two
(31:52):
Tom Brady will be a little bit different guy, having
having had a hope, everything that was brought to bear
in the off season and some harsh criticisms of what
he was. Hell, he's still responding to stuff about that
roast going. They paid me twenty five million dollars. Who's
saying no to that?
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Right?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Like how far it's gonna go? You don't know. But
for Jordan, yeah, omni president. That brand is everything to
the league and has been. It's been a feeder system
for players, for coaches, for college staffs all the way
through and now it's back front and center as the
NBA gets the gets back on NBC. Yeah, it's an
(32:34):
absolutely monumental task. I can't wait to see what form
it takes. His gambling takes are going to be off
the chains. Oh well, that's it, right, here's your parlays.
That's gone to one man who has ten k on
this game, Michael Jeffrey Jordan. I'm telling you it's good.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
The segment is gonna be And I took that personally,
and he goes. And when I saw the over under
for Karl Anthony Towns points was dropped from nineteen and
a half to sixteen and a half, I took that
personally and I put ten thousand dollars on Karl Anthony
Town's going over sixteen and a half points in Game
four like, and that's the segment. And I took that personally,
(33:08):
that's Jordan's gamblings, and I took it straight to the
bet MGM and await we win. Exit up out of Fresco,
Exit Swollen Dove, Jason Smith and Mike Harmon coming up next.
We got a big story out of the NFL. There
was a team that got royally screwed today. No, they
really did. That's next, the ball not the bolt. Well,
if the pope wasn't underperformed, he could have gotten the
(33:29):
balls number one pick in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Oh no, you didn't do it. I'll tell you. Pope
is overrated. Hope overrated eight seven seven No, who got
screwed more than anybody will tell you?
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Next Fox, be sure to catch live editions of The
Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific. Sorry for being emotional.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
I'm just pissed off and as a leader, that pisces
me off.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Why is Derek Carr hanging out with marcon.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Ah clearly not the leader. Jalen Brunson is clearly, clearly,
clearly well different styles of leadership.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Jason Smith, Mike Carmon live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
We all get there in our own special way.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
On Jalen Brunson night, congratulations to the Knicks, end Jalen
Brunson for an unbelievable performance. Jalen Brunson now officially this
performance his performance the greatest.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Basketball player in the history of the game. That's your take, Will,
But that's just like you're a bronze man. No, no, no,
it's science. It's science. It's not though it's absolute science
in your head. So we're waiting to find out. No
new news on Jason Tatum.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
The injury that he suffered at the end of the
game tonight looked really bad. MRI on tap for him,
could be in achilles again, nothing looked good with that
injury at the end of the Celtics loss to the
Knicks earlier tonight.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Uh so we'll have more NBA.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
If we hear anything in the next few minutes, obviously
we'll let you know, but not expecting anything until tomorrow.
So yeah, the Well picks, you could say, boy, they
feel screwed down three to one without their best player,
but there was actually a team more screwed than that
earlier today believe it or not, team more screwed than
that is. It's not no, the Rockies are just terrible.
(35:15):
There's a team that got screwed and that team is
the Dallas Cowboys. Because the NFL announces, hey, we have
our first game of the year to announce the opening
game is going to be the Eagles. They will celebrate
their Super Bowl championship and raise the banner and playing
(35:35):
the role of the Washington Generals will be the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Seven point dogs forty six and a half.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Here over on, the Cowboys get to play and have
to play the Eagles as they raised their championship banner
on Thursday eight in a game where the Cowboys are
going to get killed in. So there's that as well,
So it's not just showing up. At least you could say, well,
the Cowboys will watch a Super Bowl celebration happen. Won't
(36:01):
be their own, but at least they'll watch one. But boy,
Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, hey, you're here just to
lose forty five to seven, all right, that's what's gonna
happen because we're still the champs and oh, you think
we're gonna have a Super Bowl hangover. Yeah, not against
you or not? Oh, first game of the year against
the Cowboys. Okay, if they were playing the Jaguars or
the Panthers, I would say, oh yeah, I could easily
(36:23):
see it's a Super Bowl hangover for the Eagles, not.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Against the Cowboys. Good luck Dallas, good luck season win
totals sitting at a nice meaty seven and a half
for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Some of it.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
You try to get into the logic and Wednesday we'll
get the full two seventy two and we'll pick every game.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
From start to every game. Well, every game, we'll rank
every game. What's the best game? What's Game two seventy two.
I kind of want to do that this year Jags Titans,
that'll be Game two seventy ten.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, but we but we get cam Ward. Oh and
maybe Trevor Lawrence gets to be elite now that he's
got Travis Hunter. By the way, great story with that
woman and Travis Hunter on the plane this. Oh yeah,
every once in a while you get a feel good
story and and all. If you didn't see it helps
a woman get her luggage up into the overhead and
(37:12):
then chatting it up and realize, eh, this guy's kind
of a big deal, but just a nice young gentleman.
But yeah, for the Cowboys, this might be the NFL
saying it's as good as it gets. Now. We'll still
get them on Thanksgiving and we'll still have some The
brand is too huge to ignore. But why not get
it while we still have some questions about what they
(37:33):
might become, especially after the trade for George Pickens and
everything that maybe there's a little bit of excitement for
this divisional look because I hate divisional matchups in Week one,
I hate that. But I'll guarantee you this.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Last year's season opener was the highest rated regular season
game in NFL. His right, Twenty eight point nine million
people watched the Ravens and the Chiefs when everybody thought
Isaiah Likely was going to be the greatest tight end
in the history of the game.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
I'm spending all my free agent money and Isaiah Likely
don't do it. Don't do it? Oh you did it.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
That's gonna look like Jaggs Titans. Compared to how many
people are gonna watch Opening Night Eagles and the Cowboys.
The Cowboys Opening Night, this is gonna do thirty million plus.
It's gonna do what the oscars used to do when
the Oscars went. Then it's big hated when everybody watched
the Oscars. When thirty million people watch Billy Crystal, and
again we're going back to the nineties like with Jordan.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Tonight, it's gonna come out and Hannibal elector Master.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Uh, here's my impression of Paul Songa, says Hannibal Lecter,
which he actually did.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I see thirty.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Million people, this will be Hey, they're getting everything they
can out of the Cowboys tonight, just in case they stink.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Let's get it because.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Look, we remember everybody watched last Thanksgiving was an incredible number,
and the Cowboys were done.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
There was no Dack and people still watched. Well, you
get away from your family, you're in a trip to
fan induced coma, you're hiding, you're hate watching. You're betting, dude,
it'll be.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
An amazing number to watch the Cowboys lose by three touchdowns.
At least it'll be an amazing number.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Eagles also announced as the Black Friday game against the Bears. Yeah,
why not?
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Right?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Why not? The Bear is also the twentieth of December,
and so they'll play on Christmas as well. So I
got that going for me, which I guess mean that
more people are coming around to your thing that the
bears are gonna be goody.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Well, then on you, Well, then you're gonna get chief
charges Wi will probably be the highest streaming game of
all time. That'll be that'll be an incredible Well.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
It's on YouTube, right, so it's a free d It's
like we used to do with what we called the
unfortunately the drug dealer analogy of hair. There's a taste
of what it looks like on our platform. Oh you
want to watch this all year? Do you do? I conformable?
Speaker 2 (39:38):
We all have YouTube.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Oh great, that's awesome, we get to watch Yeah, this
goes over to YouTube TV week with all these bells
and whistles.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Wait, hey, you like that. Hey, let me just show
you what's happening over here right now. But let this
not detract from the fact that, boy, the cowboys got
screwed today.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
So it's the Cowboys on. But you're gonna get killed, okay. Yeah,
And then you get into the fights about you know,
the draft lottery because Dallas was a big winner here,
so it kind of gets uh.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
It's one thing to lose and say, hey, you're gonna
get to lose in front of a national audience. Congratulations
Dallas Cowboys. Hey, things looking great for the Wings and
the Mavericks, but not you, Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
It's kind of looking like the folks that were hanging
out in the barn in Centers.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
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