February 4, 2025 • 51 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon open the show looking ahead to Super Bowl LIX, discussing some of the overarching storylines surrounding the big game and logging their official predictions for how it plays out. The guys also get into the Myles Garrett trade request, discussing whether it makes sense for Cleveland to deal him, what they could get in return, and what the best landing spots could be for the superstar pass rusher. Plus, Cooper Kupp is officially on the trade block! Where might he land?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
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Speaker 4 (00:49):
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Speaker 3 (00:52):
Now we've had a week to simmer on the Super
Bowl matchup. Mike, I know you're on the IR last week.
No voice, the voice is trying to battle back.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, bit by bit, bit bit by bit.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But as we sit here, do you do you have
any more love for an Eagles Chiefs Super Bowl? Do
you have any less love now that we're less than
a week away?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Well, I mean, I didn't hate it, and it's you
know concept right, the construct is, I guess for sports
dog radio debates, we we have to decide whether we
we love or something hate absolutely with the Chiefs, you
know we love dynasties until we don't. We've had this
conversation many a time, be it the Warriors or if
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you lived outside of Chicago. I'm sure even Michael Jordan
didn't look so pretty after a while. But all of
that to say, you know, we're looking at a team
that has done it in myriad ways during this era
and finally put up some points in that AFC title game.
So is that uh, you know, foreshadowing of what they
might be able to do uh to the Philadelphia defense
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right historically not exact exactly at their best their coordinator,
that is, in terms of these matchups. As for the
Eagles themselves, we've been waiting for at every turn for
this to blow up. Right, Nick Siriani's gonna get mad
at this guy and that guy, and AJ Brown's gonna
sit and continue to read his book. Jalen Hurts can't
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play either because he's hurt or just you've decided, even
though he's now going to his second Super Bowl that
he can't play so long as that offensive line's intact,
and Saquon Barkley's in to. I think we get us
ourselves a fun contest. You know, we don't like chalk
unless we do right, because this confirmed a lot of
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preseason picks on either side of the aisles. So I
think from that end, you know, we feel pretty good
about it. And you usually want best on best, not flukiness,
and we certainly need have none of that here.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The Eagles, I think are the saving grace when you
were out last week. I just lamented for this Super
Bowl matchup because I like it when the.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
NFL changes, like when NFL history changes.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Sure, and the repeat of the Super Bowl two years
ago was my biggest gripe. Like I don't even care
about the three peat. I don't know why I don't.
I actually feel like I should care about it, but
I just, for some reason, it just doesn't register with me.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And it's it's funny. I don't want to sit here
and take the low hanging fruit.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But watching the Grammys on Sunday night and Taylor Swift
is there and a lot of the same familiar faces,
and it's not a Taylor Swift sort of argument. But
then watching Monday nights and watching the opening night at
the Superdome and seeing the same faces again, I am like,
just so searching for the Philadelphia Eagles, who in my
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mind are pretty much unlikable to give me a reason
to like the super Bowl. And I've warmed up to
it just a little bit. But it's more because I
feel that the Eagles are a different team. It's just
the same old, same old with the Chiefs, even though
they're defensive team instead of an offensive team. It's just
the same faces, it's the same places, it's the same uniforms,
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it's just the same everything, and I just want different.
So while I feel a little bit better, I just
feel my fandom going more towards the Eagles for Sunday's game.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I mean, they're fans certainly Eagles hateable, Yes, I think
we can all. I mean not that there isn't a
certain level of obnoxiousness that comes with the consistent winning
over in Chiefs Land. But you know, Philadelphia more has
more than enough fans that are more than happy to
lean into the stereotype, and we watch it time time
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again say nothing of some of the tragic circumstances coming
out out of wins and such, just saying the general
jack assery. Video shoots of let's harass a guy who
sat here for four quarters and watched his team get demolished,
and now let's take his hat pick at him, kick
him in the ass as he's trying to walk back
to his car.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You know, all of those kind of things like you're
you're the.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Worst of humanity in a nutshell right there, and why
you know, some folks get turned off from the game immediately.
I mean, I'm excited for some of the guys that
that may be able to make an impact, even if
you know, we're talking about some of the principles being
the same of the Mahomes Kelsey things certainly up front.
But DeAndre Hopkins just he's had a fun career. To
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see him playing for something meaningful. Hollywood brown guy that
was always a number three. I mean, how many times
did you draft him as a number three?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I certainly had him on many dance cards through the years.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Worked at Magic Mountain for a little while up the
road from the team where I live. So yeah, so
there's a little yeah, there's okay.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
A guy from Purdue can actually be a difference maker again,
and George Garloftus talk boiler Maker football except for Drew Brees.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So you know there's things like.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
That, Look, I'm stretching, I want to Purdue, I want
to Purdue as a saving correct.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So great plays against Josh Allen on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
He sure did, because Alan usually has the size or
the speed, and Carloftus definitely has the size and was
at least quick enough to stop him from getting on
the corner a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Something about you know, going back to the Eagles, Makai
becked and sorry Ian if he were to win a title,
like you know, Jason Smith being Jets Jets Jets and
having lamented that selection and his play for years. Kind
of funny as it were. And look, I celebrate all
things offensive line. So you got that. And then you know,
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the Cooper Dejene story is one that many people hang
their hat on. It's the low hanging fruit for the
YB would cheer the Eagles a man who's fighting out
of the Iowa cornfields. And I'll the white cornerback thing
is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's the Eagles have a bunch of storylines, and one
of which is that defense that they had two years ago.
When you talk about Cooper Dejene, you talk about Quinnon Mitchell,
when you talk about Red Blankenship, Jalen Carter, Zach Bond,
all of the different faces that they have on defense
that they had from that Super Bowl two years ago,
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and it is a different defense and it's a better defense,
I actually think because Vic Fangio is running it. They
had really good pieces in Super Bowl fifty seven, but
still Kansas to be put up thirty eight points and
won the game. And They've got guys who could make plays,
and you just named a couple of them, and I
think that that can come into play. It's not just
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going to be It's not just going to be Saquon
Barkley for as much.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
As we think that it is.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Either on the ego side of things, you mentioned just
a couple of chiefs like there are just defensively, there
are a bunch of different guys that can make plays.
We saw it against the Packers. Zach Bonds had a
great year coming out of absolutely nowhere to have the
season that he did. There's just there's the Eagles have
a lot heck Dallas Goddard. You know what, all the
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receivers were hurt A J. Brown and about the Smith.
They go and play in New Orleans and Dallas Goddard
as a ten catch ball game. So yeah, there's there's
a lot there for the Philadelphia Eagles to make some
hay on something.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Now.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You also brought up, you know, the Taylor Swift effect
for the Grammys. The thing I'll always celebrate her And look,
I don't know her from Adam. I'm gone to a
couple of shows and she's gotten plenty of my money
through the years. But the fact that she celebrates everybody
else who's performing and winning real imagine she's kept the
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bid up for many many years or award shows. So
that said, I'm not you know one who's anti Taylor
and the Kansas City Mafia when it comes to Stone
Street and Rudd and you know, all the comedians you
know and all you know, because they'll be out front
and center'll probably be there. Yeah, and I don't need
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to see uh Bradley Cooper again either or or a
little buddy from uh Over. And it's always Sonny and
I don't mean Danny DeVito, the other guy mcahaney. Yes, yes, yes,
I was getting the song was in my head, the
Deadpool and the rob Yeah, so I'm mclehanney. I could
do without them. So, you know, from the I need
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new blood. We gotta find unearth some other celebrities from
these cities.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
By the way, what does happen with Wrexham with all
this Ryan Reynolds, Baldoni, Blake Lively stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
You know, I haven't even seen that show. It's been
on my list for a while. But but I will
say that my girlfriend did come. She made me watch
the movie in question with her, so I know, how
was the okay? It was all right, It was all right.
Not not really my cup of tea. It's one of
those Colleen Hoover, you know, kind of one of those flicks.
But you know, I was entertaining enough.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I know, I took it.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah. I've wondered myself because I have enjoyed the Wrexham
series and I've enjoyed following them, and I wonder on
how much all the rivals of Wrexham are probably loving
all of this drama that's going on. But we could
get back to the main topic, and you're actually, your
point about Taylor Swift is well received, Mike, because it
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was even pointed out that Taylor Swift is sitting there
dancing when the camera isn't on.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Her, right, it's the entire show.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's just like, now that may get annoying, but you
can't say that she's trying to do it for the
camera if she's just constantly dancing throughout the entire Like
Kendrick Lamar got an award, so it wasn't like Kendrick
Lamar was performing, but he got an award, and she
was still dancing, and.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
She was dancing and was raising whatever the hell she
was drinking. She was having her best life.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I just saw on Sunday night and saw her on
Sunday night she again gave out an award.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Again.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
This is this isn't anything that's her fault necessarily, there's
the cameras.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Always go to her. It's not like she's.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Out hunting for it. It's just the point is it
all just a little too much? And I think that
this has been the conversation Mike for so long, and
it never registered with me until when all of a
sudden it was too much with the Chiefs and I
admit it. I think you had Egles Bill super Bowl,
but from the preseason, from the preseason.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
But I really wanted Buffalo to win that game.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
And so you know it sounds, yeah, it sounds completely biased,
but I just wanted something different.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
And I felt like if if you had Chiefs Lions.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Or Eagles Bills Magnificent, yeah, like we've got a different story. Instead,
we got none of that, and we got all of this.
And I actually blame the Chiefs more than I blamed
the Eagles. I think that's probably the root of all
of this. This is more of a therapy session and
getting down to the main roots of the angst than anything.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Hey, that's sometimes you just got to talk it out
and eventually it finds its way to the surface. I really,
I mean, look, I picked the Bills. I've been an
Alan backer forever. Was curious to see how that defense
would show up, and alas they did. Not a couple
of bad calls and I don't mean officials, but play calls,
and then we would have had a lot of run
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from Nick mackay, who would have been on.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
With us push exactly. Then he is a longtime friend,
Yes he.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Is Mike Carmon, I'm Dan Byer.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Ian Roddy is hanging out talking about Super Bowl fifty nine.
We'll talk more about the game and where we think
you could find some fun, especially with some prop bets.
We'll bring some up later on in the show. Plus,
there's some news in the National Football League. Miles Garrett
wants out of Cleveland. Cooper Cup has been told they
want him out of LA. Could George Pickens be on
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the move? Could there be other wide receivers, head coaching news,
the whole deal. We'll talk about all of it. He's
Mike Carmon, I'm Dan Byer. Ian Roddy's here as well.
This is I Want Your Flex Welcome back. It is
I Want Your Flex. I'm Dan Byer. He's Mike Harmon
and that's Ian Roddy hanging out here getting a set
for Super Bowl fifty nine. Mike, we're gonna do some
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prop bets a little bit later on in the show,
as we look at the matchup, the rematch of Super
Bowl fifty seven and the quest of the Kansas City
Chiefs going for their three peat over under sitting there
at forty eight and a half Kansas City right now,
point and a half favorite in this game pretty close?
Where are you in terms of leaning sidewise point wise?
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Where do you think that you feel most confident heading
into the game on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I am leaning to the over and a three peat.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
When it gets down to it, Kansas City just is
going to make the plays that Philadelphia does not.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
The devil's in the margins and I'm just wondering. And
we mentioned him before and again it was the obligatory
Big tennapologist in me with the Carl Loftis line. But
is Jalen Hurts plenty of time to get right right physically.
The two weeks should should allow some of those maladies
and soreness to go away. But can that passing game
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make a play when they need to? And I'm afraid
they won't be able to.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
The part of the game that I think is interesting.
I also like the over. I'm liking the Eagles in.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
This, okay.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
But the reason why I think that you say that
the devil's in the details and what we see Kansas
City's kicking game, I think is stronger. Jake Elliott, I
don't want to criticize a guy from missing a kick
in the snow, but hasn't been as reliable as we
have felt in the past. I also think Kansas City's
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willingness to kick the football in certain situations ye will
will play into it, and so I think that there's
an edge there that they have with Harrison Butker. I
can't say this for the Eagles side of things, so
it's not a criticism or not. But when they brought
the players on stage for the media event on Monday night,
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Harrison Butker was.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
One of the Chiefs that was on the stage that
was brought up. So I can't remember if I saw
Jake Elliott or not be brought up. So it's not
that it's a slight for the Eagles, but what it
is saying is the importance of Harrison Butker with the
Kansas City Chiefs. So when saying while I think a
game is going to be over and I like the Eagles,
maybe Harrison Butker ends up being like my most important player,
maybe not most valuable player, But I think that if
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Kansas if it does come out on Kansas City side,
Harrison Butker is going to have a say in it,
just like he did two years ago when.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
He kicked the game winning field goal at the end
of the game.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Do you think I must say in women's women's right, Well.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Not to go down that, but how much of the
strategy of putting him on the dais is to maybe
alleviate a little bit of traffic flow from Travis Kelsey,
Patrick Mahomes and Andy Ree.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Sure, Oh, people are gonna want to talk to Harrison.
Go talk to Harrison over.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
There instead of I'm going to Disney World. He's like,
I'm going to my couch while my wife washes the dishes. No,
I'm just maybe we're too hard on Harrison. Butker, I'm
not sure, but I do think that he could play
a role of this.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
My kids have some thoughts. They'd love to know.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
The uh. I I like Kansas City's defense obviously, for
as great as it's been, but there's something about matching
up with that Philadelphia offensive line and Sakwon Barkley, and
I think Jalen Hurts his legs will hurt them again.
They did in the first Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Kansas to be fortunate to win that game, but Jalen
Hurts was quite the factor with his legs and if
it wasn't for a bad turnover of his that really
allowed Kansas City to get back in it. We may
be talking about the Chiefs only trying to repeat, and
do the Eagles have Kansas City's number?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I just think that this time around, and I know
that in second meetings.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Of Super Bowls, whoever wins the first one, I think
that's been eight times it's happened. We've had a repeat.
So this is number nine. The team that won the
first matchup is six and two. I believe it was
the stat that I saw. So that's at least on
Kansas City side that they can have the opportunity to
make that seven and two.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
With the win. But right now I'm with you on
the over I'm just on the other side with the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Mahomes eight no against Vic Fangio. Does it matter?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, I think that's I think that stat matters. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Fangio was a consultant with the Eagles in that Super
Bowl season, so it's not like he was absolved of everything.
Even though it was Jonathan Gannon's defense. I'd have to
think that if you're in that defensive room that Vic
Fangio would have quite to say in how things are
going to go down.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Again. Their personnel is different just like Kansas City is
a bit different, but more so on the Eagles side defensively.
But that is a formidable stat for your argument. That
is for.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Sure'ta can't wait to watch regardless, I mean, I hate
that it's the final salvo of this long arduous season.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Ian where do you lean on this game? Right now?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
I'm actually gonna take the under. I'm I'm taking the
Chiefs as well. I think the three pete happens, but
I'm taking the under just because of the fact that
I think the guys controlling both defenses are two of
the best defensive minds in football. Like, if you ask
me who are the two best defensive minds, there's a
very real argument that you could say Steve Spagnolo and
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Vic Fangio are the two best defensive mines in football.
So I'm gonna take the under, but I do have
the Chiefs the Chiefs as well for the winner.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
In my very ungambling and Unlas Vegas type of thinking,
I always try to figure out the score of what
I would think. So if you said to me twenty
seven twenty one, which is again that's right on the border,
I'd be like, Okay, that seems like there's significant points
that would obviously be the under be right at forty eight,
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but would just be under. I am looking at more
of the thirty eight thirty five sort of game that
we had ten years you know, two years ago. Maybe
not that jacked up as it was, but it's also
a fast track there. And it's not that it's not
that playing in the Dome allows you to score more
points see the Patriots and Rams six years ago, my goodness.
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But I do think that you can take advantage. Things
are quicker on turf than they are on grass, and
I think that you could get a bit more of
a track meet on what is a what is a
flat fast surface in New Orleans?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I think it's it's the fun chess match and certainly,
you know, we have to think back deep in our
memory for when it was actually a fast track in
New Orleans. Oh sorry, the Saints, in their lack of coaching,
uh just catches astray.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Do you think they built a little shrine to him,
to Kellen.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Moore or to just a faceless ball cap right now
in terms of praying for their next go.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I'm going faceless ball cap.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's where I think, no logo, nothing, just although if
the Eagles win, he should immediately take off his Eagle
sweatshirt and reveal a Saints.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
That it's right underneath there. I don't need anything super
Bowl hat, give me my Saints.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yes, let's get to work. It's like I'm going down
the hall. I'm gonna work on the off season right now.
I got work to do. That's what he should do.
If he loses, I'll tell you what they got or less,
they got a lot of work to do it in
New Orleans. Do you like that, Kellen Moore higher, I
actually don't think it's bad. I think for for as
bad as the situation is with their salary cap, it's
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gonna like the Cardinals a couple of years ago, like
the Saints have to hit bottom, and I don't think
they've hit bottom yet, And it may come during next
season where they hit bottom and then kind of start
to bounce back up. But you're not going to get
top top guy, and I'm I'm fine with Kellen Moore
getting that opportunity.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Well, at this point, as you said, between the salary
cap restrictions and the roster that's currently in place, very
top loaded, very bloated, you've got to make a decision
on whatever Derek Carr is to you at this point,
whether you like Spencer Rattler, probably not. But all of
that to say, there's gonna be a heavy turnover of
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that roster here in the next year to two, and
whoever's coming in has to I would hope receive the
grace that so many others have not. Right, we got
seven straight years where it's been a one and done situation,
and part of me wonders how much it was, Hey,
you're not getting this job, but once you actually really
got under the hood, be it McCarthy or some of
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these others, like, yeah, I don't know that I want
to sign up for several years of absolute bottom feeding before.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Or we're back to stability.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
They've tried to push it down the road for a
while and now that that day is due, and now
it's time to Now it's time to pay, and I
think that they're going to pay severely.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Too bad for a lot of a lot of the
guys there.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And this is even some of this stuff it's not
dating back to Drew Brees, but it is dating back
to Drew Brees and trying to hang on and I
know he's been gone for a couple of years, but
you try to stay competitive. Also that division, Mike take
out the Tom Brady years, but you always kind of
felt that that division was winnable maybe, and so you
have these false hopes of all right, let's do it,
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let's go for it, let's let's try to win this,
you know, try to win this. It's maybe Tampa's not
the greatest team in the NFL, that we can go
and beat them, and so you think that you're able to.
And they had some interesting games with Tampa, for sure.
So when you're competing against them and their winning divisions,
maybe you're thinking that you're a little bit closer than
you are and not just far ways away.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Well, look at the falls hope they had for a
stretch this year, and I picked them on our board
in the studio as the worst team in football. Yeah,
and for a while, I mean, they come out of
the gates, they're scoring points, flying all around, and then
reality punched you in the face. But not without a
couple of blips of supreme life to make you say,
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all right, well and perhaps to fool yourself to your point,
Dan of that you're closer than you are.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
M Saints jumped out too, and know I was right
there with you when the predictions came out. I also
said the Saints. I saw this on x Ian. I
don't know if you saw this as well. I can't
remember who put it.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I can't remember it was your boy Furman Mike who
put it out, or if it was.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Phasik or who it was. But the misread awful line
of the year. Week three, Saints two and a half
point favorites over the Philadelphia Think about that. The Saints
were a two and a half point favorite this year
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over the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Crazy folks get excitable. Yeah, here's what I saw on Sunday,
Baby Oh.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Week one doesn't mean anything, but Week two that's who
they really are.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
People bought into that one.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Uh perfect, perfect time to take a time out because
we'll have some prop bets on the other side for
Super Bowl fifty nine. I also feel that this Miles
Garrett Cooper Cup news is a big deal, specifically the
Cooper Cup deal. I'll tell you why. He's Mike Carmen.
That's Ian Rodney, our executive producer. Will be back next
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year when I want your flex. It is I want
your flex. I'm Dan Byer, He's my car. That's Ian Roddy.
Before we get to the prop bets that we've got
for Super Bowl fifty nine, Miles Garrett, he is asked
for a trade out of Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Cooper Cup was told by the Rams that they're going
to try and trade him. Interesting times in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Mike, I'm intrigued by the Cup news because I think
teams will see this and not that Cooper Cup is
going to give you a first round pick or a
second round pick or anything like that. But I think
that they are going to be receivers moved in this offseason,
and I'm curious if teams now will get I don't know,
itchy trigger finger and trying to move some guys, trying
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to deal some guys. I think the wide receiver movement
that we could get this offseason is interesting me as
Seahawks fan.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I think DK Metcalf could be on the move at
some point.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
There's just a lot of names out there, and Cooper
Cup being available could be a cheap option for someone
may want force these other teams to say, like, Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Maybe we need to start moving on our wide receivers.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Yeah, some crazy activity. Right, we had all the movement
and trades and signings in the w NBA. Then we
get Luca for Anthony Davis and the whole world goes
nuts for a weekend.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's like, oh, wait, super Bowl still coming. I'll wait.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
But we've got a couple of guys that might be
on the move here with Cooper cup right, he's got
the it's tied with Keenan Allen for the twelfth highest
wide receiver contract. So I need to do some things
with some monies if I'm going to bring him on Dan.
That's that's part of the process. So wondering if folks
play the waiting game, if the Rams aren't amenable to
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eating some of the cash that you know, it's like
I eventually got to cut him or you got to
eat some of that money.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Let's figure it out.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
But certainly a guy what was he near to seventy
catches again, even in limited time and playing second fiddle.
So the style that he plays when we talk about
the change of the game, we're not mad bombering it
all over the place. Is that a word now? I
don't think so, but I'll make it one. And we
want to run the ball, play efficiently, move the chains
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made Cooper Cup for the ten to twelve games you're
gonna get.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
There are a few better in the game.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
So as long as my cost isn't prohibitive, then I'm
all for take your third day draft pick or whatever.
Let's figure out the money and he can become a
part of my squad anytime.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I The T.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Higgins situation is gonna be one that we're gonna be
watching as far. For some reason, I think Cooper Cup
ends up as a member of the Dallas Cowboys. And
I don't know if I'm just thinking because they also
have Cooper Rush, then they could just lead the NFC
East in Cooper's tie with the Eagles. But it just
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seems like such a cowboy thing to do. I don't
know why. Let's make a move. We'd said we're all
in last year and we didn't do anything. Now we're
all in part due and let's just go and try
to trade for a wide receiver. That something has something
left in the tank, others not so much.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Does it seem like like the Rams might know something though,
like it's it seems like Cooper Cup the end of
the year kind of kind of slow had zero catches
in the last few games, or maybe like one or two,
and now he's on the trade block. It just feels
like they know something like maybe his injury is lingering
and he's not going to be the same guy when
he comes back.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I think that there's something to that. Ian.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I also think that it's code for we want something
for Cooper Cup. Otherwise we're probably just going to try to,
as Mike says, let him go, you know, or that
could be the option.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Well, it seems not to cut you off there, Dan,
but like part of it is mcveigh's trying to get
going on whatever the build. The next iteration is right
the Matthew Stafford talk of we're not waiting around like
last year, or just we're not We can't afford to
because if he's not ready to go. I mean, look
how important September was to so many squads, Like, hey,
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you know what, if you'd believe he's played five hundred
ball off the jump they lost to the Bears for
crying out loud, all.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Right, so I had to do it.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
But just their start to the season was so off
and so slow, and not all of it was Hey,
pokin Naku has hurt. I mean Matthew Stafford was not
good off the jump either. So maybe here it's the
all right, all the elder statesmen, we need to start
moving forward here.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I think the other part of that is they they
are doing that now because of how well they drafted
and how well that young defensive line was able to
grow without Aaron Donald By. Yeah, I don't think that
they realized that they would be able to stay contenders
the way that they are and winning the division. But
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I mean Jared Verse, who honestly was thought to be
it was such a funky.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Draft last year.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
And when you go back and you look at if
you looked at mock drafts in January and February of
last year, Jared Verse is up there in the top ten,
top five picks. I know we're talking about quarterbacks, but
he was in that conversation. And we have a draft
where the first fifteen picks of players are offensive players,
So you don't have a defensive player taken until the
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Colts take lots of from UCLA, and then the Seahawks
took Byron Murphy and the Rams get Jared Vers a
couple of picks later. But we look at those guys
as mid first round picks or later around first round picks.
But there were draft people who were really high on
Jared Verse throughout the draft process, and the Rams are
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reaping the benefits of it. He is a beast and
they've hit some on some other things on the defensive line,
So I think that sped up the process as well.
Kin of likely also then aid it in the removal
of Cooper Cup from their future plans, but we shall see.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Miles Garrett, do you think he actually gets dealt?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
You think so?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I think in the end you'll have enough suitors to wear,
you know, much like the lamentations of it didn't look
good in the press releases that you didn't get enough
first round picks for Luka Dacic.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
It's my tongue in cheek.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Is the I think you got plenty of teams that
will line up to give the Browns whatever.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
You can you could right your almost right, you're wrong
of the Deshaun Watson deal by doing this trade. Yeah,
where we're hearing two first round picks minimal if there's
there's a team out there that's willing to give more,
and they might be, and I'm talking to you buffalo
like this may be this may be the room that.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
You can get.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, absolutely not, but that is that's the type of
move that that it could provide you.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
You could speed it up. And honestly, if you're Miles
Garrett and you're looking at the Browns, I think you're
looking at He's looking at it like all of us are.
Even if you get things right, how good are you
going to be?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
This year and then the next year and the next
year after that, like does he?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
He obviously will also want a new contract, which is
a part of this as well, when it becomes a
tangent in twenty twenty six. But do you want to
sit there and beat up your body for that over
the next two years? And I know any player on
the Browns could say that right now, but Miles Garrett
is different.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
And it's just you wasted Joe Thomas's Hall of Fame
career in terms of not making the playoffs and not
catching in on that. Do you want to do it
again with Miles Garrett with just you know, an appearance
here and an appearance there and that's it. Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I would, Seriously, I don't know if you'll get dealt Mike,
You're more into it than I am.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
But I can see why the Browns sho do it.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeah, I mean I look at it, and certainly Forgarrett
that now it becomes the you know, are you gonna,
you know, hold your breath and try to force the issue.
If I'm Stefanski, I'm in, you know, to Haslam and
everybody else on my hands and knees, like, look what
you saddled with me with these last couple of years
I got. I cobbled a team together to get to
the playoffs despite having both hands tied behind my back
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and having to type with my nose okay like that
and communicating my blinking with you because you guys gave
me this Deshaun Watson albatross that I had to work with.
And then when we did have people in the room
that could work that, we couldn't play them for fearing
and we had to get rid of them Joe Flacco
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for fear of hurting his feeling. How many people did
you talk to NFL guys that brought that up. I
know I certainly had my share, Dan over the last
eighteen months of oh yeah they could, there's no way
they could bring them back because Deshaun Watson was two
cents to what was.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Going on around him.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Right, So if I'm Miles Garrett, I'm like, I'm in
this division that I'm probably probably not going to win
again to a large degree. I mean the AFC, and look,
you can go to another AFC team, but just the
idea of climbing out of the AFC North again, come on,
it's yeah, foolhardy to think you're.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Going to get there.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
So, yeah, would I would do everything and throw every
huff and puffing five year old tantrum that I needed
to to get out of there.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, it's a good point if you're Miles Garrett and
you're the number one overall pick of that team and
you see your franchise bend over backwards to accommodate Deshaun
Watson and to bring him in, and then when he
doesn't pan out, to go the extra step of trying
to make it good for him.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
When this is your team, this is Miles Garrett's team,
Let's be real. I mean, there are very few teams
that have players that aren't quarterbacks that it's their team,
but I think Cleveland would be one of them. I'd
be frustrated too.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
And I know there's talking Cleveland and saus and Cleveland
stuff of Miles has always been about Miles.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
That may be true.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
The Mason Rudolph scenario is not a bright spot in
his career either. However, you're talking about dominant defensive player,
reigning defensive player of the Year that now wants out,
who's eight years in already. And I know Adam Schefter
put out a Khalil mac tweet on the trade for that,
and I know, sorry Mike Schefter brought it up. At
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the point is is what do you got to lose
if you're Cleveland, if you keep Miles Garrett around, are
you gonna win twelve games next next year?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Probably not set yourself up better for it.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Yeah, I think it just comes down to the are
you just going to keep him for spite? M hmm, Okay,
you drafted well years ago when he came to town.
He's given you a lot of double digit sack years.
What's it gotten you? A lot of great moments? You
mentioned the Mason Rudolph spot. It's kind of like everybody
you know doing all the pointing and laughing at the
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Giants this year. I like Saquon Barkley as much as anybody.
What are you winning another game.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And a half?
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Is he really pushing you to the promised land? Beyond
that offensive line with that quarterback? I like Moliku neighbors,
don't get me wrong, but like the two of them.
That's a tag team that's gonna run rough shot over everybody. Sorry,
you had no personnel, so it's it's nice. And Tracy
had himself a nice year. We talked about him a
lot for fantasy purposes, but it's the same thing here.
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Now you look at Miles Garrett, it's like, it's great,
you'd love for a guy to be your guy. I
think we all have those guys for our respective teams.
But at some point reality punches you in the face.
It's like, we're not winning with him. So if we
can start the next process for Stefanski or whatever coaching
staff supplants him and move the organization down, I don't
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think you hamstring yourself out of spite, no matter how
blistering you may have thought. His statement was of my
idea wasn't going from.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Well.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
And we sometimes think that these deals, in these decisions
need to be made, or will need to be made
in two and a half months when the draft comes
up in late April, but realistically they need to be
made within the next five weeks.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
But about starting a year Dan about the draft though,
That's something else that's part of this too, is the
fact that the draft itself is actually pretty deep at
edge this year. Yeah, Like, you're obviously not going to
find a guy on Miles Garrett's caliber. That's a lot
to ask, but they have the second overall pick he
got Abdua Carter from Penn State. Like, there's some real
names in this draft class, even you know, beyond the
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first round. And then also, if you trade Garrett, you're
probably going to be getting multiple first in return, so
you know, if you want to go quarterback, you want
to go edge as well, you have that option.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
So yeah, you'd be better be getting I'd say, I
know two was laid out there with the Mac deal,
but I almost think three, considering on how on top
of his game he is. I don't know, maybe maybe
a lot to ask that in that scenario, but it's
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especially if there's competition for him. He's gonna be thirty
in December, so he's just turned twenty nine, so I
mean you're talking you hope for the next five years
he can continue to be the dominant four years and
if your playoff window is right now. Sorry, Ian, everybody's
pointing to Buffalo as and we talked on this pod,
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like I think Buffalo needs to We don't need to
have Josh Allen get another weapon.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Josh Allen needs a better defense. Yes, that's what he needs,
and that's the way to do it. Just ask Patrick Mahomes.
That's what Buffalo needs to do. We'll see if they
do it.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I also characterize Garrett's trade request today in the Super
Bowl week storyline. Remember Kyler Murray in the LA Super
Bowl three years ago, like that pops up. I think
this has more juice to it, but still it's kind
of a you know, I'll believe it when I see it.
But I think that there are a lot of reasons
why the Browns should do the move. It's just a
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question of whether they will or not. All right, let's
get to the prop bets. Mike, you sent over some
circle ones. I have some other ones as well on here. Mike,
you want to just toggle back and forth a couple
of weeks and we'll throw out there.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
We'll just throw out about seven or eight of them.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You'll get four, I'll get four, and we'll make our
predictions and see how well we hit on super Bowl
fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
I think a lot of these on the ones of
a mine off circa. I mean, they're all serious. It's
like all real stuff. Man, where's the comedy.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
I know the comedy that I see on one of
mine is Isaiah Pacheco over under twenty one and a
half yards, and I know that he hasn't been huge.
We're going to start out on that one. I am
going Pachecko over. There's no way this is going to
be an all Kareem Hunt show. I'm going Pachecko over
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twenty one and a half.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yard, twenty one and a half. That's so yes, Yeah,
I think I gotta go over on that.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
But like as soon as you bring up Kareem Hunts
and I'm like, oh, his runner receiver, he could really bogart.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Most of the Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
I can almost talk myself into it, but I'm not gonna.
I'm gonna stay over with you.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Ian. You like over under Isaiah Pacheco twenty one and
a half yards.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
I like the over as well. I like the over
all right, okays hard, Yeah, big game, Yeah, extra hard.
I like it.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Sure, Mike, you got one ready.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's one of your favorite words in all of football. Dan.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Well, the final score be a score of Gami plus
twenty five hundred. I'm gonna I just went for broke
right off the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Let's let's do it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say no.
And the reason being was Commander's Eagles was what fifty
five thirty two or whatever it was, and that wasn't
even score a goami.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
So yeah, so I gotta go. I know there's a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
You could be a very very rich man if you're
or a woman if you're betting on a being score
a goami.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
But don't see it happening, Mike.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
I don't either. But at plus twenty five hundred, I
have fun with it. Yeah, I mean, look, I need
to go and find a sheet where I can find
some printouts in the twenties of what's not been haad
just yet. But man, this that that's a fun one.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Ian.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
Yeah, you guys are zigging. I'm gonna zag and say
it will be a score all right?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
There you go cash in.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Twenty five to one. Maybe that's good.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
It's actually the smart one. How about this one? Total
fourth down conversions over under is two and a half.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I'll take the over.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
I like the over two.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I do too, and it makes me feel like Vegas
knows something right.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Maybe behind the scenes outlawed the two push the motherly.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
I agree with. Yeah, so I think the the over
on that.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Oh that's a good one though. I kind of dig that.
Yeah right, let me seem trying to find a good
one off of my shoes.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yours are courtesy of Circa. My prop bets courtesy of
bet Online.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Mentioned him before. DeAndre Hopkins receptions one and a half.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Over? Yes, two? Maybe one on a fourth down?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Yeah, receiving yards thirteen and a half for him as well.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
I have to go over. If I'm giving him two catches,
I know it could be two for nine, but move
those chains.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Yes, we'll hit the I'll take the over.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
I feel like I can see him having a touchdown,
but not a huge box score game complete vibes prediction there.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
But all right, all right, Mike, would you like on
that one? Yes?
Speaker 5 (43:01):
Yeah, I'm going to take I'm going to take the
under that he's going to get a lot of love
and then he's going to get shut out.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Okay, all right, how about this Jersey number for first
TD score over under fifteen and a half. So the
Jersey number is got to be under fifteen.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Now let's think about fifteen principles. I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
I'm going to take the under on this.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
If Mahomes scores it, it doesn't hit right.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
It is it is fifteen and a half. I should
say it's if.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
It's if my home scores, it's the under fifteen and
a half is the Jersey number.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
Jalen Hurts is under over, Travis Kelsey's.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Over, DeVante Smith is under, a J Brown is under.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
This is a good question or a good prompt.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
So this is the first TD score or just yes,
Jersey number of the first TV score?
Speaker 5 (44:01):
What odds are they given on that one? Because I
have it on my sheet too at twenty five and a.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Half, I don't have any odds. It just says first
TV score. Yeah, so I guess minus one ten?
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Okay, yeah, this one's minus one twenty five for twenty
five and a half. Okay, just giving you an alternate
line there, But like you start thinking about all of
the different guys.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Right, well, also think about this Mike, who's between sixteen
and twenty five that can score? You think Trent McDuffie's
gonna pick off a pass and run it back.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
You know, No, it's just because you said that that's
gonna be the first score.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
What did Mike Bett in Vegas mcduffy to score the
first touchdown?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
He's not retired.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
But that's between the fifteen and a half that I
have on my line, which I again assume is minus
one ten to the what you have on your line
of twenty five and a half, which is Saquon Barkley
and up right, this is Mahomes and below. Oh, yours
is Saquon Barkley and up and it's who's wearing jersey
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numbers between sixteen and twenty five on both of these
teams that could score.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
Yeah, we'll find.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Out such great theater.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Yes, yes, all right, we got another one.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Let's see, Let's do two more. Let's do a couple
more of these.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Uh ooh, how about this one?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Longest completion Mahomes thirty three and a half.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Under.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
I'm gonna say under two take the over.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
All, Right, I'm gonna go find some Hollywood brown magic.
Speaker 6 (45:37):
It just takes one. Yeah, but I don't know that
that's a long.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
It could be a Travis Kelcey down the middle. If
the Red Sea parts like it does sometimes.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
Well, actually it does it specify? Is it air yards
or it doesn't have to be a yards? Interesting because
because yak counts too, I actually will take over.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Change it up.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, I felt like I was being the different one
going the under.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Yeah, That's that's how I felt. All Right, I got
one more for you. Will any player break the Super
Bowl scoring record?
Speaker 4 (46:11):
This does have odds plus sixteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
James White and Jalen Hurts have both scored twenty points
in their Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Three touchdowns, two point conversion.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
I'm gonna say yes because of the toush push Jalen Hurts,
He's uh, he's playing in this game again.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
So yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Gonna go yes.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
And because I thought it was gonna be higher scoring,
I'm gonna say, Saquon does it?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (46:43):
Well, let me give you a Saquon specific one show. Okay,
one hundred and fifty or more rushing yards plus three
hundred last Yeah, I'm under yeah, seventy plus rushing yards
minus four seventy five.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Yeah over, Yeah, I'm not a real gambling man being
safe with my money.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
About Let's see what else Kenneth Gainwell for a score.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
If I didn't, if I didn't pick Saquon to have
the game that he's going that I think that he
could have, then I mean, then I'd have to put
Gainwell in because you know, there's gonna be somebody who
doesn't who doesn't score right, or that scores that's surprising.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I'm with you. How about how about we do the
last one MVPs.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
I'm going Saquon. I like the Eagles to win, so
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Saquon plus two seventy five.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Okay, I've gotten the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
So and Ian you had the Chiefs? So where which
way are you going here?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (47:59):
I'm gonna go off on a huge limbit. Say Patrick
Mahomes wins Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
I'd love to watch somebody walk away with it. That
isn't It would be great, But I think I kind
of bury myself into that pile, right, I mean, Kareem
hunted sixty to one. Anybody cross Jones? I could see
maybe he's ninety one. Carl loftis at one hundred and
fifty to one.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
Hey, roll it, you're on this Purdue bad way.
Speaker 5 (48:27):
Let's go go Boilers. Yeah, try McDuffie four hundred to one.
Speaker 6 (48:32):
Come on, now, if he got two pick six's, would
that trump a solid game from Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
That's a better question than you would have thought because
of how much bias he gets for these awards. Right,
but I'll tell you what I think that they would
have to realize. It's I mean, Jacoby Jones in the
last time the Super Bowl was in New Orleans, Alright,
p to Jacobe Jones. But Joe Flacco ends up winning
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that when he had the kickoff return and a huge touchdown.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Right, Yeah, Jacoba Jones should have been the guy.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Yeah, but hopefully the voters would understand and get if
Trent McDuffie does such would be the MVP.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Well, maybe they'll abstain and leave e Troe off the ballot.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Oh, all right, final scores predictions. We have our Super
Bowl MVPs. All, I mean, we just set our Super
Bowl MVPs, right, so we can do.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Our predictions all locked and loaded.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
You Yes, Okay, I got the Eagles. As I said,
I don't think it's again. I think it's going to
hit the over. I'm going to go thirty three twenty
seven Philadelphia, and.
Speaker 6 (49:50):
I got Chiefs twenty one seventeen.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I'll say, nicely done. Really coming to the under.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
I got the Chiefs in the over thirty to twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
All right, nice four point game there? Would that be
scoring Gami.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
That's a good question. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Well, i'll tell you what We'll find out before we
wrap this up, and so it better be quick as
we are wrapping this up because it's our.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Final show before Super Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
As I'm looking at thirty two, Mike, thirty two thirty, Yes,
it would be. It would not be score Gami. We
have had this seven times. In fact, the Seahawks and
Browns most recently played to a thirty two to twenty
eight game on October thirteenth of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
Now you know what's funny is I almost said thirty
two thirty, which may have never happened.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
Thirty two to thirty happened three times Mike recently.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, you know what that was?
Speaker 3 (50:57):
Hail Murray, Cards beat the Bills, Yes, finish thirty two
to thirty in that one. All right, Well, guys, we'll
talk on the other side. I'll be in New Orleans.
I'll be at the game.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
I'll tell you how the atmosphere was, and hopefully we
have a good game that we can watch and just enjoy.
Super Bowl fifty nine should be a dandy time.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
It'll be brilliant. Be good, safe travels.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Glad that your voice is back, Mike Ian stellar job
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Speaker 4 (00:49):
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Speaker 3 (00:52):
Now we've had a week to simmer on the Super
Bowl matchup. Mike, I know you're on the IR last week.
No voice, the voice is trying to battle back.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Yeah, bit by bit, bit bit by bit.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But as we sit here, do you do you have
any more love for an Eagles Chiefs Super Bowl? Do
you have any less love now that we're less than
a week away?
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Well, I mean, I didn't hate it, and it's you
know concept right, the construct is, I guess for sports
dog radio debates, we we have to decide whether we
we love or something hate absolutely with the Chiefs, you
know we love dynasties until we don't. We've had this
conversation many a time, be it the Warriors or if
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you lived outside of Chicago. I'm sure even Michael Jordan
didn't look so pretty after a while. But all of
that to say, you know, we're looking at a team
that has done it in myriad ways during this era
and finally put up some points in that AFC title game.
So is that uh, you know, foreshadowing of what they
might be able to do uh to the Philadelphia defense
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right historically not exact exactly at their best their coordinator,
that is, in terms of these matchups. As for the
Eagles themselves, we've been waiting for at every turn for
this to blow up. Right, Nick Siriani's gonna get mad
at this guy and that guy, and AJ Brown's gonna
sit and continue to read his book. Jalen Hurts can't
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play either because he's hurt or just you've decided, even
though he's now going to his second Super Bowl that
he can't play so long as that offensive line's intact,
and Saquon Barkley's in to. I think we get us
ourselves a fun contest. You know, we don't like chalk
unless we do right, because this confirmed a lot of
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preseason picks on either side of the aisles. So I
think from that end, you know, we feel pretty good
about it. And you usually want best on best, not flukiness,
and we certainly need have none of that here.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
The Eagles, I think are the saving grace when you
were out last week. I just lamented for this Super
Bowl matchup because I like it when the.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
NFL changes, like when NFL history changes.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Sure, and the repeat of the Super Bowl two years
ago was my biggest gripe. Like I don't even care
about the three peat. I don't know why I don't.
I actually feel like I should care about it, but
I just, for some reason, it just doesn't register with me.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
And it's it's funny. I don't want to sit here
and take the low hanging fruit.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But watching the Grammys on Sunday night and Taylor Swift
is there and a lot of the same familiar faces,
and it's not a Taylor Swift sort of argument. But
then watching Monday nights and watching the opening night at
the Superdome and seeing the same faces again, I am like,
just so searching for the Philadelphia Eagles, who in my
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mind are pretty much unlikable to give me a reason
to like the super Bowl. And I've warmed up to
it just a little bit. But it's more because I
feel that the Eagles are a different team. It's just
the same old, same old with the Chiefs, even though
they're defensive team instead of an offensive team. It's just
the same faces, it's the same places, it's the same uniforms,
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it's just the same everything, and I just want different.
So while I feel a little bit better, I just
feel my fandom going more towards the Eagles for Sunday's game.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I get that.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I mean, they're fans certainly Eagles hateable, Yes, I think
we can all. I mean not that there isn't a
certain level of obnoxiousness that comes with the consistent winning
over in Chiefs Land. But you know, Philadelphia more has
more than enough fans that are more than happy to
lean into the stereotype, and we watch it time time
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again say nothing of some of the tragic circumstances coming
out out of wins and such, just saying the general
jack assery. Video shoots of let's harass a guy who
sat here for four quarters and watched his team get demolished,
and now let's take his hat pick at him, kick
him in the ass as he's trying to walk back
to his car.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
You know, all of those kind of things like you're
you're the.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
Worst of humanity in a nutshell right there, and why
you know, some folks get turned off from the game immediately.
I mean, I'm excited for some of the guys that
that may be able to make an impact, even if
you know, we're talking about some of the principles being
the same of the Mahomes Kelsey things certainly up front.
But DeAndre Hopkins just he's had a fun career. To
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see him playing for something meaningful. Hollywood brown guy that
was always a number three. I mean, how many times
did you draft him as a number three?
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
I certainly had him on many dance cards through the years.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Worked at Magic Mountain for a little while up the
road from the team where I live. So yeah, so
there's a little yeah, there's okay.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
A guy from Purdue can actually be a difference maker again,
and George Garloftus talk boiler Maker football except for Drew Brees.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So you know there's things like.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
That, Look, I'm stretching, I want to Purdue, I want
to Purdue as a saving correct.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So great plays against Josh Allen on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
He sure did, because Alan usually has the size or
the speed, and Carloftus definitely has the size and was
at least quick enough to stop him from getting on
the corner a couple of times.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Something about you know, going back to the Eagles, Makai
becked and sorry Ian if he were to win a title,
like you know, Jason Smith being Jets Jets Jets and
having lamented that selection and his play for years. Kind
of funny as it were. And look, I celebrate all
things offensive line. So you got that. And then you know,
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the Cooper Dejene story is one that many people hang
their hat on. It's the low hanging fruit for the
YB would cheer the Eagles a man who's fighting out
of the Iowa cornfields. And I'll the white cornerback thing
is a big deal.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's the Eagles have a bunch of storylines, and one
of which is that defense that they had two years ago.
When you talk about Cooper Dejene, you talk about Quinnon Mitchell,
when you talk about Red Blankenship, Jalen Carter, Zach Bond,
all of the different faces that they have on defense
that they had from that Super Bowl two years ago,
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and it is a different defense and it's a better defense,
I actually think because Vic Fangio is running it. They
had really good pieces in Super Bowl fifty seven, but
still Kansas to be put up thirty eight points and
won the game. And They've got guys who could make plays,
and you just named a couple of them, and I
think that that can come into play. It's not just
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going to be It's not just going to be Saquon
Barkley for as much.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
As we think that it is.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Either on the ego side of things, you mentioned just
a couple of chiefs like there are just defensively, there
are a bunch of different guys that can make plays.
We saw it against the Packers. Zach Bonds had a
great year coming out of absolutely nowhere to have the
season that he did. There's just there's the Eagles have
a lot heck Dallas Goddard. You know what, all the
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receivers were hurt A J. Brown and about the Smith.
They go and play in New Orleans and Dallas Goddard
as a ten catch ball game. So yeah, there's there's
a lot there for the Philadelphia Eagles to make some
hay on something.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Now.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You also brought up, you know, the Taylor Swift effect
for the Grammys. The thing I'll always celebrate her And look,
I don't know her from Adam. I'm gone to a
couple of shows and she's gotten plenty of my money
through the years. But the fact that she celebrates everybody
else who's performing and winning real imagine she's kept the
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bid up for many many years or award shows. So
that said, I'm not you know one who's anti Taylor
and the Kansas City Mafia when it comes to Stone
Street and Rudd and you know, all the comedians you
know and all you know, because they'll be out front
and center'll probably be there. Yeah, and I don't need
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to see uh Bradley Cooper again either or or a
little buddy from uh Over. And it's always Sonny and
I don't mean Danny DeVito, the other guy mcahaney. Yes, yes, yes,
I was getting the song was in my head, the
Deadpool and the rob Yeah, so I'm mclehanney. I could
do without them. So, you know, from the I need
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new blood. We gotta find unearth some other celebrities from
these cities.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
By the way, what does happen with Wrexham with all
this Ryan Reynolds, Baldoni, Blake Lively stuff.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
You know, I haven't even seen that show. It's been
on my list for a while. But but I will
say that my girlfriend did come. She made me watch
the movie in question with her, so I know, how
was the okay? It was all right, It was all right.
Not not really my cup of tea. It's one of
those Colleen Hoover, you know, kind of one of those flicks.
But you know, I was entertaining enough.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I know, I took it.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
That's good. That's good.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yeah. I've wondered myself because I have enjoyed the Wrexham
series and I've enjoyed following them, and I wonder on
how much all the rivals of Wrexham are probably loving
all of this drama that's going on. But we could
get back to the main topic, and you're actually, your
point about Taylor Swift is well received, Mike, because it
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was even pointed out that Taylor Swift is sitting there
dancing when the camera isn't on.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Her, right, it's the entire show.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
It's just like, now that may get annoying, but you
can't say that she's trying to do it for the
camera if she's just constantly dancing throughout the entire Like
Kendrick Lamar got an award, so it wasn't like Kendrick
Lamar was performing, but he got an award, and she
was still dancing, and.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
She was dancing and was raising whatever the hell she
was drinking. She was having her best life.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
I just saw on Sunday night and saw her on
Sunday night she again gave out an award.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Again.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
This is this isn't anything that's her fault necessarily, there's
the cameras.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Always go to her. It's not like she's.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Out hunting for it. It's just the point is it
all just a little too much? And I think that
this has been the conversation Mike for so long, and
it never registered with me until when all of a
sudden it was too much with the Chiefs and I
admit it. I think you had Egles Bill super Bowl,
but from the preseason, from the preseason.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
But I really wanted Buffalo to win that game.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
And so you know it sounds, yeah, it sounds completely biased,
but I just wanted something different.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
And I felt like if if you had Chiefs Lions.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Or Eagles Bills Magnificent, yeah, like we've got a different story. Instead,
we got none of that, and we got all of this.
And I actually blame the Chiefs more than I blamed
the Eagles. I think that's probably the root of all
of this. This is more of a therapy session and
getting down to the main roots of the angst than anything.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Hey, that's sometimes you just got to talk it out
and eventually it finds its way to the surface. I really,
I mean, look, I picked the Bills. I've been an
Alan backer forever. Was curious to see how that defense
would show up, and alas they did. Not a couple
of bad calls and I don't mean officials, but play calls,
and then we would have had a lot of run
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from Nick mackay, who would have been on.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
With us push exactly. Then he is a longtime friend,
Yes he.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Is Mike Carmon, I'm Dan Byer.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Ian Roddy is hanging out talking about Super Bowl fifty nine.
We'll talk more about the game and where we think
you could find some fun, especially with some prop bets.
We'll bring some up later on in the show. Plus,
there's some news in the National Football League. Miles Garrett
wants out of Cleveland. Cooper Cup has been told they
want him out of LA. Could George Pickens be on
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the move? Could there be other wide receivers, head coaching news,
the whole deal. We'll talk about all of it. He's
Mike Carmon, I'm Dan Byer. Ian Roddy's here as well.
This is I Want Your Flex Welcome back. It is
I Want Your Flex. I'm Dan Byer. He's Mike Harmon
and that's Ian Roddy hanging out here getting a set
for Super Bowl fifty nine. Mike, we're gonna do some
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prop bets a little bit later on in the show,
as we look at the matchup, the rematch of Super
Bowl fifty seven and the quest of the Kansas City
Chiefs going for their three peat over under sitting there
at forty eight and a half Kansas City right now,
point and a half favorite in this game pretty close?
Where are you in terms of leaning sidewise point wise?
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Where do you think that you feel most confident heading
into the game on Sunday?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I am leaning to the over and a three peat.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
Hm.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
When it gets down to it, Kansas City just is
going to make the plays that Philadelphia does not.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
The devil's in the margins and I'm just wondering. And
we mentioned him before and again it was the obligatory
Big tennapologist in me with the Carl Loftis line. But
is Jalen Hurts plenty of time to get right right physically.
The two weeks should should allow some of those maladies
and soreness to go away. But can that passing game
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make a play when they need to? And I'm afraid
they won't be able to.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
The part of the game that I think is interesting.
I also like the over. I'm liking the Eagles in.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
This, okay.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
But the reason why I think that you say that
the devil's in the details and what we see Kansas
City's kicking game, I think is stronger. Jake Elliott, I
don't want to criticize a guy from missing a kick
in the snow, but hasn't been as reliable as we
have felt in the past. I also think Kansas City's
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willingness to kick the football in certain situations ye will
will play into it, and so I think that there's
an edge there that they have with Harrison Butker. I
can't say this for the Eagles side of things, so
it's not a criticism or not. But when they brought
the players on stage for the media event on Monday night,
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Harrison Butker was.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
One of the Chiefs that was on the stage that
was brought up. So I can't remember if I saw
Jake Elliott or not be brought up. So it's not
that it's a slight for the Eagles, but what it
is saying is the importance of Harrison Butker with the
Kansas City Chiefs. So when saying while I think a
game is going to be over and I like the Eagles,
maybe Harrison Butker ends up being like my most important player,
maybe not most valuable player, But I think that if
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Kansas if it does come out on Kansas City side,
Harrison Butker is going to have a say in it,
just like he did two years ago when.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
He kicked the game winning field goal at the end
of the game.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Do you think I must say in women's women's right, Well.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Not to go down that, but how much of the
strategy of putting him on the dais is to maybe
alleviate a little bit of traffic flow from Travis Kelsey,
Patrick Mahomes and Andy Ree.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Sure, Oh, people are gonna want to talk to Harrison.
Go talk to Harrison over.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
There instead of I'm going to Disney World. He's like,
I'm going to my couch while my wife washes the dishes. No,
I'm just maybe we're too hard on Harrison. Butker, I'm
not sure, but I do think that he could play
a role of this.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
My kids have some thoughts. They'd love to know.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
The uh. I I like Kansas City's defense obviously, for
as great as it's been, but there's something about matching
up with that Philadelphia offensive line and Sakwon Barkley, and
I think Jalen Hurts his legs will hurt them again.
They did in the first Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Kansas to be fortunate to win that game, but Jalen
Hurts was quite the factor with his legs and if
it wasn't for a bad turnover of his that really
allowed Kansas City to get back in it. We may
be talking about the Chiefs only trying to repeat, and
do the Eagles have Kansas City's number?
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I just think that this time around, and I know
that in second meetings.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Of Super Bowls, whoever wins the first one, I think
that's been eight times it's happened. We've had a repeat.
So this is number nine. The team that won the
first matchup is six and two. I believe it was
the stat that I saw. So that's at least on
Kansas City side that they can have the opportunity to
make that seven and two.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
With the win. But right now I'm with you on
the over I'm just on the other side with the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Mahomes eight no against Vic Fangio. Does it matter?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Yeah, I think that's I think that stat matters. Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Fangio was a consultant with the Eagles in that Super
Bowl season, so it's not like he was absolved of everything.
Even though it was Jonathan Gannon's defense. I'd have to
think that if you're in that defensive room that Vic
Fangio would have quite to say in how things are
going to go down.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Again. Their personnel is different just like Kansas City is
a bit different, but more so on the Eagles side defensively.
But that is a formidable stat for your argument. That
is for.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Sure'ta can't wait to watch regardless, I mean, I hate
that it's the final salvo of this long arduous season.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Ian where do you lean on this game? Right now?
Speaker 6 (18:30):
I'm actually gonna take the under. I'm I'm taking the
Chiefs as well. I think the three pete happens, but
I'm taking the under just because of the fact that
I think the guys controlling both defenses are two of
the best defensive minds in football. Like, if you ask
me who are the two best defensive minds, there's a
very real argument that you could say Steve Spagnolo and
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Vic Fangio are the two best defensive mines in football.
So I'm gonna take the under, but I do have
the Chiefs the Chiefs as well for the winner.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
In my very ungambling and Unlas Vegas type of thinking,
I always try to figure out the score of what
I would think. So if you said to me twenty
seven twenty one, which is again that's right on the border,
I'd be like, Okay, that seems like there's significant points
that would obviously be the under be right at forty eight,
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but would just be under. I am looking at more
of the thirty eight thirty five sort of game that
we had ten years you know, two years ago. Maybe
not that jacked up as it was, but it's also
a fast track there. And it's not that it's not
that playing in the Dome allows you to score more
points see the Patriots and Rams six years ago, my goodness.
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But I do think that you can take advantage. Things
are quicker on turf than they are on grass, and
I think that you could get a bit more of
a track meet on what is a what is a
flat fast surface in New Orleans?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I think it's it's the fun chess match and certainly,
you know, we have to think back deep in our
memory for when it was actually a fast track in
New Orleans. Oh sorry, the Saints, in their lack of coaching,
uh just catches astray.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Do you think they built a little shrine to him,
to Kellen.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
Moore or to just a faceless ball cap right now
in terms of praying for their next go.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I'm going faceless ball cap.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's where I think, no logo, nothing, just although if
the Eagles win, he should immediately take off his Eagle
sweatshirt and reveal a Saints.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
That it's right underneath there. I don't need anything super
Bowl hat, give me my Saints.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yes, let's get to work. It's like I'm going down
the hall. I'm gonna work on the off season right now.
I got work to do. That's what he should do.
If he loses, I'll tell you what they got or less,
they got a lot of work to do it in
New Orleans. Do you like that, Kellen Moore higher, I
actually don't think it's bad. I think for for as
bad as the situation is with their salary cap, it's
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gonna like the Cardinals a couple of years ago, like
the Saints have to hit bottom, and I don't think
they've hit bottom yet, And it may come during next
season where they hit bottom and then kind of start
to bounce back up. But you're not going to get
top top guy, and I'm I'm fine with Kellen Moore
getting that opportunity.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Well, at this point, as you said, between the salary
cap restrictions and the roster that's currently in place, very
top loaded, very bloated, you've got to make a decision
on whatever Derek Carr is to you at this point,
whether you like Spencer Rattler, probably not. But all of
that to say, there's gonna be a heavy turnover of
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that roster here in the next year to two, and
whoever's coming in has to I would hope receive the
grace that so many others have not. Right, we got
seven straight years where it's been a one and done situation,
and part of me wonders how much it was, Hey,
you're not getting this job, but once you actually really
got under the hood, be it McCarthy or some of
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these others, like, yeah, I don't know that I want
to sign up for several years of absolute bottom feeding before.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Or we're back to stability.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
They've tried to push it down the road for a
while and now that that day is due, and now
it's time to Now it's time to pay, and I
think that they're going to pay severely.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Too bad for a lot of a lot of the
guys there.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
And this is even some of this stuff it's not
dating back to Drew Brees, but it is dating back
to Drew Brees and trying to hang on and I
know he's been gone for a couple of years, but
you try to stay competitive. Also that division, Mike take
out the Tom Brady years, but you always kind of
felt that that division was winnable maybe, and so you
have these false hopes of all right, let's do it,
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let's go for it, let's let's try to win this,
you know, try to win this. It's maybe Tampa's not
the greatest team in the NFL, that we can go
and beat them, and so you think that you're able to.
And they had some interesting games with Tampa, for sure.
So when you're competing against them and their winning divisions,
maybe you're thinking that you're a little bit closer than
you are and not just far ways away.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Well, look at the falls hope they had for a
stretch this year, and I picked them on our board
in the studio as the worst team in football. Yeah,
and for a while, I mean, they come out of
the gates, they're scoring points, flying all around, and then
reality punched you in the face. But not without a
couple of blips of supreme life to make you say,
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all right, well and perhaps to fool yourself to your point,
Dan of that you're closer than you are.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
M Saints jumped out too, and know I was right
there with you when the predictions came out. I also
said the Saints. I saw this on x Ian. I
don't know if you saw this as well. I can't
remember who put it.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I can't remember it was your boy Furman Mike who
put it out, or if it was.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Phasik or who it was. But the misread awful line
of the year. Week three, Saints two and a half
point favorites over the Philadelphia Think about that. The Saints
were a two and a half point favorite this year
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over the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
Crazy folks get excitable. Yeah, here's what I saw on Sunday,
Baby Oh.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Week one doesn't mean anything, but Week two that's who
they really are.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
People bought into that one.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Uh perfect, perfect time to take a time out because
we'll have some prop bets on the other side for
Super Bowl fifty nine. I also feel that this Miles
Garrett Cooper Cup news is a big deal, specifically the
Cooper Cup deal. I'll tell you why. He's Mike Carmen.
That's Ian Rodney, our executive producer. Will be back next
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year when I want your flex. It is I want
your flex. I'm Dan Byer, He's my car. That's Ian Roddy.
Before we get to the prop bets that we've got
for Super Bowl fifty nine, Miles Garrett, he is asked
for a trade out of Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
Cooper Cup was told by the Rams that they're going
to try and trade him. Interesting times in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Mike, I'm intrigued by the Cup news because I think
teams will see this and not that Cooper Cup is
going to give you a first round pick or a
second round pick or anything like that. But I think
that they are going to be receivers moved in this offseason,
and I'm curious if teams now will get I don't know,
itchy trigger finger and trying to move some guys, trying
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to deal some guys. I think the wide receiver movement
that we could get this offseason is interesting me as
Seahawks fan.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
I think DK Metcalf could be on the move at
some point.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
There's just a lot of names out there, and Cooper
Cup being available could be a cheap option for someone
may want force these other teams to say, like, Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Maybe we need to start moving on our wide receivers.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Yeah, some crazy activity. Right, we had all the movement
and trades and signings in the w NBA. Then we
get Luca for Anthony Davis and the whole world goes
nuts for a weekend.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
It's like, oh, wait, super Bowl still coming. I'll wait.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
But we've got a couple of guys that might be
on the move here with Cooper cup right, he's got
the it's tied with Keenan Allen for the twelfth highest
wide receiver contract. So I need to do some things
with some monies if I'm going to bring him on Dan.
That's that's part of the process. So wondering if folks
play the waiting game, if the Rams aren't amenable to
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eating some of the cash that you know, it's like
I eventually got to cut him or you got to
eat some of that money.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Let's figure it out.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
But certainly a guy what was he near to seventy
catches again, even in limited time and playing second fiddle.
So the style that he plays when we talk about
the change of the game, we're not mad bombering it
all over the place. Is that a word now? I
don't think so, but I'll make it one. And we
want to run the ball, play efficiently, move the chains
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made Cooper Cup for the ten to twelve games you're
gonna get.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
There are a few better in the game.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
So as long as my cost isn't prohibitive, then I'm
all for take your third day draft pick or whatever.
Let's figure out the money and he can become a
part of my squad anytime.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
I The T.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Higgins situation is gonna be one that we're gonna be
watching as far. For some reason, I think Cooper Cup
ends up as a member of the Dallas Cowboys. And
I don't know if I'm just thinking because they also
have Cooper Rush, then they could just lead the NFC
East in Cooper's tie with the Eagles. But it just
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seems like such a cowboy thing to do. I don't
know why. Let's make a move. We'd said we're all
in last year and we didn't do anything. Now we're
all in part due and let's just go and try
to trade for a wide receiver. That something has something
left in the tank, others not so much.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Does it seem like like the Rams might know something though,
like it's it seems like Cooper Cup the end of
the year kind of kind of slow had zero catches
in the last few games, or maybe like one or two,
and now he's on the trade block. It just feels
like they know something like maybe his injury is lingering
and he's not going to be the same guy when
he comes back.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I think that there's something to that. Ian.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I also think that it's code for we want something
for Cooper Cup. Otherwise we're probably just going to try to,
as Mike says, let him go, you know, or that
could be the option.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
Well, it seems not to cut you off there, Dan,
but like part of it is mcveigh's trying to get
going on whatever the build. The next iteration is right
the Matthew Stafford talk of we're not waiting around like
last year, or just we're not We can't afford to
because if he's not ready to go. I mean, look
how important September was to so many squads, Like, hey,
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you know what, if you'd believe he's played five hundred
ball off the jump they lost to the Bears for
crying out loud, all.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Right, so I had to do it.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
But just their start to the season was so off
and so slow, and not all of it was Hey,
pokin Naku has hurt. I mean Matthew Stafford was not
good off the jump either. So maybe here it's the
all right, all the elder statesmen, we need to start
moving forward here.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
I think the other part of that is they they
are doing that now because of how well they drafted
and how well that young defensive line was able to
grow without Aaron Donald By. Yeah, I don't think that
they realized that they would be able to stay contenders
the way that they are and winning the division. But
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I mean Jared Verse, who honestly was thought to be
it was such a funky.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Draft last year.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
And when you go back and you look at if
you looked at mock drafts in January and February of
last year, Jared Verse is up there in the top ten,
top five picks. I know we're talking about quarterbacks, but
he was in that conversation. And we have a draft
where the first fifteen picks of players are offensive players,
So you don't have a defensive player taken until the
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Colts take lots of from UCLA, and then the Seahawks
took Byron Murphy and the Rams get Jared Vers a
couple of picks later. But we look at those guys
as mid first round picks or later around first round picks.
But there were draft people who were really high on
Jared Verse throughout the draft process, and the Rams are
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reaping the benefits of it. He is a beast and
they've hit some on some other things on the defensive line,
So I think that sped up the process as well.
Kin of likely also then aid it in the removal
of Cooper Cup from their future plans, but we shall see.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
Miles Garrett, do you think he actually gets dealt?
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:06):
You think so?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
I think in the end you'll have enough suitors to wear,
you know, much like the lamentations of it didn't look
good in the press releases that you didn't get enough
first round picks for Luka Dacic.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
It's my tongue in cheek.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
Is the I think you got plenty of teams that
will line up to give the Browns whatever.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
You can you could right your almost right, you're wrong
of the Deshaun Watson deal by doing this trade. Yeah,
where we're hearing two first round picks minimal if there's
there's a team out there that's willing to give more,
and they might be, and I'm talking to you buffalo
like this may be this may be the room that.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
You can get.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, absolutely not, but that is that's the type of
move that that it could provide you.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
You could speed it up. And honestly, if you're Miles
Garrett and you're looking at the Browns, I think you're
looking at He's looking at it like all of us are.
Even if you get things right, how good are you
going to be?
Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (32:15):
This year and then the next year and the next
year after that, like does he?
Speaker 3 (32:18):
He obviously will also want a new contract, which is
a part of this as well, when it becomes a
tangent in twenty twenty six. But do you want to
sit there and beat up your body for that over
the next two years? And I know any player on
the Browns could say that right now, but Miles Garrett
is different.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
And it's just you wasted Joe Thomas's Hall of Fame
career in terms of not making the playoffs and not
catching in on that. Do you want to do it
again with Miles Garrett with just you know, an appearance
here and an appearance there and that's it. Yeah, I would.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I would, Seriously, I don't know if you'll get dealt Mike,
You're more into it than I am.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
But I can see why the Browns sho do it.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
Yeah, I mean I look at it, and certainly Forgarrett
that now it becomes the you know, are you gonna,
you know, hold your breath and try to force the issue.
If I'm Stefanski, I'm in, you know, to Haslam and
everybody else on my hands and knees, like, look what
you saddled with me with these last couple of years
I got. I cobbled a team together to get to
the playoffs despite having both hands tied behind my back
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and having to type with my nose okay like that
and communicating my blinking with you because you guys gave
me this Deshaun Watson albatross that I had to work with.
And then when we did have people in the room
that could work that, we couldn't play them for fearing
and we had to get rid of them Joe Flacco
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for fear of hurting his feeling. How many people did
you talk to NFL guys that brought that up. I
know I certainly had my share, Dan over the last
eighteen months of oh yeah they could, there's no way
they could bring them back because Deshaun Watson was two
cents to what was.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Going on around him.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Right, So if I'm Miles Garrett, I'm like, I'm in
this division that I'm probably probably not going to win
again to a large degree. I mean the AFC, and look,
you can go to another AFC team, but just the
idea of climbing out of the AFC North again, come on,
it's yeah, foolhardy to think you're.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Going to get there.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
So, yeah, would I would do everything and throw every
huff and puffing five year old tantrum that I needed
to to get out of there.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Yeah, it's a good point if you're Miles Garrett and
you're the number one overall pick of that team and
you see your franchise bend over backwards to accommodate Deshaun
Watson and to bring him in, and then when he
doesn't pan out, to go the extra step of trying
to make it good for him.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
When this is your team, this is Miles Garrett's team,
Let's be real. I mean, there are very few teams
that have players that aren't quarterbacks that it's their team,
but I think Cleveland would be one of them. I'd
be frustrated too.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
And I know there's talking Cleveland and saus and Cleveland
stuff of Miles has always been about Miles.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
That may be true.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
The Mason Rudolph scenario is not a bright spot in
his career either. However, you're talking about dominant defensive player,
reigning defensive player of the Year that now wants out,
who's eight years in already. And I know Adam Schefter
put out a Khalil mac tweet on the trade for that,
and I know, sorry Mike Schefter brought it up. At
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the point is is what do you got to lose
if you're Cleveland, if you keep Miles Garrett around, are
you gonna win twelve games next next year?
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Probably not set yourself up better for it.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Yeah, I think it just comes down to the are
you just going to keep him for spite? M hmm, Okay,
you drafted well years ago when he came to town.
He's given you a lot of double digit sack years.
What's it gotten you? A lot of great moments? You
mentioned the Mason Rudolph spot. It's kind of like everybody
you know doing all the pointing and laughing at the
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Giants this year. I like Saquon Barkley as much as anybody.
What are you winning another game.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
And a half?
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Is he really pushing you to the promised land? Beyond
that offensive line with that quarterback? I like Moliku neighbors,
don't get me wrong, but like the two of them.
That's a tag team that's gonna run rough shot over everybody. Sorry,
you had no personnel, so it's it's nice. And Tracy
had himself a nice year. We talked about him a
lot for fantasy purposes, but it's the same thing here.
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Now you look at Miles Garrett, it's like, it's great,
you'd love for a guy to be your guy. I
think we all have those guys for our respective teams.
But at some point reality punches you in the face.
It's like, we're not winning with him. So if we
can start the next process for Stefanski or whatever coaching
staff supplants him and move the organization down, I don't
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think you hamstring yourself out of spite, no matter how
blistering you may have thought. His statement was of my
idea wasn't going from.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Well.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
And we sometimes think that these deals, in these decisions
need to be made, or will need to be made
in two and a half months when the draft comes
up in late April, but realistically they need to be
made within the next five weeks.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
But about starting a year Dan about the draft though,
That's something else that's part of this too, is the
fact that the draft itself is actually pretty deep at
edge this year. Yeah, Like, you're obviously not going to
find a guy on Miles Garrett's caliber. That's a lot
to ask, but they have the second overall pick he
got Abdua Carter from Penn State. Like, there's some real
names in this draft class, even you know, beyond the
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first round. And then also, if you trade Garrett, you're
probably going to be getting multiple first in return, so
you know, if you want to go quarterback, you want
to go edge as well, you have that option.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
So yeah, you'd be better be getting I'd say, I
know two was laid out there with the Mac deal,
but I almost think three, considering on how on top
of his game he is. I don't know, maybe maybe
a lot to ask that in that scenario, but it's
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especially if there's competition for him. He's gonna be thirty
in December, so he's just turned twenty nine, so I
mean you're talking you hope for the next five years
he can continue to be the dominant four years and
if your playoff window is right now. Sorry, Ian, everybody's
pointing to Buffalo as and we talked on this pod,
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like I think Buffalo needs to We don't need to
have Josh Allen get another weapon.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Josh Allen needs a better defense. Yes, that's what he needs,
and that's the way to do it. Just ask Patrick Mahomes.
That's what Buffalo needs to do. We'll see if they
do it.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
I also characterize Garrett's trade request today in the Super
Bowl week storyline. Remember Kyler Murray in the LA Super
Bowl three years ago, like that pops up. I think
this has more juice to it, but still it's kind
of a you know, I'll believe it when I see it.
But I think that there are a lot of reasons
why the Browns should do the move. It's just a
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question of whether they will or not. All right, let's
get to the prop bets. Mike, you sent over some
circle ones. I have some other ones as well on here. Mike,
you want to just toggle back and forth a couple
of weeks and we'll throw out there.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
We'll just throw out about seven or eight of them.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You'll get four, I'll get four, and we'll make our
predictions and see how well we hit on super Bowl
fifty nine.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
I think a lot of these on the ones of
a mine off circa. I mean, they're all serious. It's
like all real stuff. Man, where's the comedy.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
I know the comedy that I see on one of
mine is Isaiah Pacheco over under twenty one and a
half yards, and I know that he hasn't been huge.
We're going to start out on that one. I am
going Pachecko over. There's no way this is going to
be an all Kareem Hunt show. I'm going Pachecko over
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twenty one and a half.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yard, twenty one and a half. That's so yes, Yeah,
I think I gotta go over on that.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
But like as soon as you bring up Kareem Hunts
and I'm like, oh, his runner receiver, he could really bogart.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Most of the Yeah.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
I can almost talk myself into it, but I'm not gonna.
I'm gonna stay over with you.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Ian. You like over under Isaiah Pacheco twenty one and
a half yards.
Speaker 6 (40:26):
I like the over as well. I like the over
all right, okays hard, Yeah, big game, Yeah, extra hard.
I like it.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Sure, Mike, you got one ready.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's one of your favorite words in all of football. Dan.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Well, the final score be a score of Gami plus
twenty five hundred. I'm gonna I just went for broke
right off the Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Let's let's do it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say no.
And the reason being was Commander's Eagles was what fifty
five thirty two or whatever it was, and that wasn't
even score a goami.
Speaker 4 (41:04):
So yeah, so I gotta go. I know there's a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
You could be a very very rich man if you're
or a woman if you're betting on a being score
a goami.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
But don't see it happening, Mike.
Speaker 5 (41:15):
I don't either. But at plus twenty five hundred, I
have fun with it. Yeah, I mean, look, I need
to go and find a sheet where I can find
some printouts in the twenties of what's not been haad
just yet. But man, this that that's a fun one.
Speaker 4 (41:32):
Ian.
Speaker 6 (41:33):
Yeah, you guys are zigging. I'm gonna zag and say
it will be a score all right?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
There you go cash in.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
Twenty five to one. Maybe that's good.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
It's actually the smart one. How about this one? Total
fourth down conversions over under is two and a half.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I'll take the over.
Speaker 6 (41:48):
I like the over two.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
I do too, and it makes me feel like Vegas
knows something right.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Maybe behind the scenes outlawed the two push the motherly.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
I agree with. Yeah, so I think the the over
on that.
Speaker 5 (42:08):
Oh that's a good one though. I kind of dig that.
Yeah right, let me seem trying to find a good
one off of my shoes.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yours are courtesy of Circa. My prop bets courtesy of
bet Online.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
Mentioned him before. DeAndre Hopkins receptions one and a half.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Over? Yes, two? Maybe one on a fourth down?
Speaker 2 (42:32):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Yeah, receiving yards thirteen and a half for him as well.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
I have to go over. If I'm giving him two catches,
I know it could be two for nine, but move
those chains.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
Yes, we'll hit the I'll take the over.
Speaker 6 (42:48):
I feel like I can see him having a touchdown,
but not a huge box score game complete vibes prediction there.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
But all right, all right, Mike, would you like on
that one? Yes?
Speaker 5 (43:01):
Yeah, I'm going to take I'm going to take the
under that he's going to get a lot of love
and then he's going to get shut out.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Okay, all right, how about this Jersey number for first
TD score over under fifteen and a half. So the
Jersey number is got to be under fifteen.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Now let's think about fifteen principles. I'm gonna take the over.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
I'm going to take the under on this.
Speaker 6 (43:30):
If Mahomes scores it, it doesn't hit right.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
It is it is fifteen and a half. I should
say it's if.
Speaker 3 (43:37):
It's if my home scores, it's the under fifteen and
a half is the Jersey number.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
Jalen Hurts is under over, Travis Kelsey's.
Speaker 4 (43:50):
Over, DeVante Smith is under, a J Brown is under.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
This is a good question or a good prompt.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
So this is the first TD score or just yes,
Jersey number of the first TV score?
Speaker 5 (44:01):
What odds are they given on that one? Because I
have it on my sheet too at twenty five and a.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Half, I don't have any odds. It just says first
TV score. Yeah, so I guess minus one ten?
Speaker 5 (44:13):
Okay, yeah, this one's minus one twenty five for twenty
five and a half. Okay, just giving you an alternate
line there, But like you start thinking about all of
the different guys.
Speaker 4 (44:23):
Right, well, also think about this Mike, who's between sixteen
and twenty five that can score? You think Trent McDuffie's
gonna pick off a pass and run it back.
Speaker 6 (44:33):
You know, No, it's just because you said that that's
gonna be the first score.
Speaker 5 (44:38):
What did Mike Bett in Vegas mcduffy to score the
first touchdown?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
He's not retired.
Speaker 3 (44:43):
But that's between the fifteen and a half that I
have on my line, which I again assume is minus
one ten to the what you have on your line
of twenty five and a half, which is Saquon Barkley
and up right, this is Mahomes and below. Oh, yours
is Saquon Barkley and up and it's who's wearing jersey
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numbers between sixteen and twenty five on both of these
teams that could score.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
Yeah, we'll find.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Out such great theater.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Yes, yes, all right, we got another one.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
Let's see, Let's do two more. Let's do a couple
more of these.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
Uh ooh, how about this one?
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Longest completion Mahomes thirty three and a half.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Under.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
I'm gonna say under two take the over.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
All, Right, I'm gonna go find some Hollywood brown magic.
Speaker 6 (45:37):
It just takes one. Yeah, but I don't know that
that's a long.
Speaker 5 (45:41):
It could be a Travis Kelcey down the middle. If
the Red Sea parts like it does sometimes.
Speaker 6 (45:46):
Well, actually it does it specify? Is it air yards
or it doesn't have to be a yards? Interesting because
because yak counts too, I actually will take over.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
Change it up.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, I felt like I was being the different one
going the under.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (46:03):
Yeah, That's that's how I felt. All Right, I got
one more for you. Will any player break the Super
Bowl scoring record?
Speaker 4 (46:11):
This does have odds plus sixteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
James White and Jalen Hurts have both scored twenty points
in their Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Three touchdowns, two point conversion.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
I'm gonna say yes because of the toush push Jalen Hurts,
He's uh, he's playing in this game again.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
So yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4 (46:36):
Gonna go yes.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
And because I thought it was gonna be higher scoring,
I'm gonna say, Saquon does it?
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (46:43):
Well, let me give you a Saquon specific one show. Okay,
one hundred and fifty or more rushing yards plus three
hundred last Yeah, I'm under yeah, seventy plus rushing yards
minus four seventy five.
Speaker 4 (47:01):
Yeah over, Yeah, I'm not a real gambling man being
safe with my money.
Speaker 5 (47:10):
About Let's see what else Kenneth Gainwell for a score.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
If I didn't, if I didn't pick Saquon to have
the game that he's going that I think that he
could have, then I mean, then I'd have to put
Gainwell in because you know, there's gonna be somebody who
doesn't who doesn't score right, or that scores that's surprising.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I'm with you. How about how about we do the
last one MVPs.
Speaker 4 (47:43):
I'm going Saquon. I like the Eagles to win, so
I'm going.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Saquon plus two seventy five.
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Okay, I've gotten the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (47:54):
So and Ian you had the Chiefs? So where which
way are you going here?
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (47:59):
I'm gonna go off on a huge limbit. Say Patrick
Mahomes wins Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 5 (48:04):
I'd love to watch somebody walk away with it. That
isn't It would be great, But I think I kind
of bury myself into that pile, right, I mean, Kareem
hunted sixty to one. Anybody cross Jones? I could see
maybe he's ninety one. Carl loftis at one hundred and
fifty to one.
Speaker 4 (48:25):
Hey, roll it, you're on this Purdue bad way.
Speaker 5 (48:27):
Let's go go Boilers. Yeah, try McDuffie four hundred to one.
Speaker 6 (48:32):
Come on, now, if he got two pick six's, would
that trump a solid game from Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (48:43):
That's a better question than you would have thought because
of how much bias he gets for these awards. Right,
but I'll tell you what I think that they would
have to realize. It's I mean, Jacoby Jones in the
last time the Super Bowl was in New Orleans, Alright,
p to Jacobe Jones. But Joe Flacco ends up winning
(49:04):
that when he had the kickoff return and a huge touchdown.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Right, Yeah, Jacoba Jones should have been the guy.
Speaker 4 (49:11):
Yeah, but hopefully the voters would understand and get if
Trent McDuffie does such would be the MVP.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Well, maybe they'll abstain and leave e Troe off the ballot.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Oh, all right, final scores predictions. We have our Super
Bowl MVPs. All, I mean, we just set our Super
Bowl MVPs, right, so we can do.
Speaker 2 (49:34):
Our predictions all locked and loaded.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
You Yes, Okay, I got the Eagles. As I said,
I don't think it's again. I think it's going to
hit the over. I'm going to go thirty three twenty
seven Philadelphia, and.
Speaker 6 (49:50):
I got Chiefs twenty one seventeen.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
I'll say, nicely done. Really coming to the under.
Speaker 5 (49:56):
I got the Chiefs in the over thirty to twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
All right, nice four point game there? Would that be
scoring Gami.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
That's a good question. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
Well, i'll tell you what We'll find out before we
wrap this up, and so it better be quick as
we are wrapping this up because it's our.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
Final show before Super Bowl fifty nine.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
As I'm looking at thirty two, Mike, thirty two thirty, Yes,
it would be. It would not be score Gami. We
have had this seven times. In fact, the Seahawks and
Browns most recently played to a thirty two to twenty
eight game on October thirteenth of twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5 (50:45):
Now you know what's funny is I almost said thirty
two thirty, which may have never happened.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
Thirty two to thirty happened three times Mike recently.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, you know what that was?
Speaker 3 (50:57):
Hail Murray, Cards beat the Bills, Yes, finish thirty two
to thirty in that one. All right, Well, guys, we'll
talk on the other side. I'll be in New Orleans.
I'll be at the game.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
I'll tell you how the atmosphere was, and hopefully we
have a good game that we can watch and just enjoy.
Super Bowl fifty nine should be a dandy time.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
It'll be brilliant. Be good, safe travels.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Glad that your voice is back, Mike Ian stellar job
as always. I'm Dan Beyer, He's Mike Carmen. That's Ian Roddy.
Enjoy the Super Bowl everyone. We'll talk to you afterwards
here and I want your flex
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