September 26, 2023 • 35 mins
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It's Fox Sports Radio's Official Fantasy Football Podcast! Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon react to Week 3 in fantasy football, where names big and small alike had huge showings on Sunday! The guys discuss the Dolphins beatdown of the Broncos and explain what you should do with De'Von Achane moving forward. The guys explain why the Houston Texans appear to be actual contenders in the AFC South. Plus, Dan and Mike tell you who you need to target on the waiver wire!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lad, you want experience during your football season, well, buckle.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Up, sweet cheeks.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We've got all the experience in the world. This is
I Want Your Flex with Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.
Mike and Dan break down everything you need to set
your lineups, from position rankings to.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Starts and sits.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
The guys help you make those hard decisions. And now
let's get your flex on. Here's Dan Bayer and Mike Harmon.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
All right, that's it for week three. He's Mike Carmen.
I'm Dan Bayer. It's I Want Your Flex and Mike.
I think we have to start in South Florida. Let's
get right to it. Nobody I think listening to this
podcast ever remembers a game where there were seventy points
scored scored by a team that's.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
One of your favorites.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
To score a gamis, Oh, we can get some score
gam there's not to score at GAMI on Monday Night
as well the Eagles and Buccaneers. But the fact is
is that we had a team in the NFL that scored.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Seventy points and exactly seventy.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It only one other time in the NFL MIC did
a team score seventy points in a game and the
opponent scored twenty seven. So if the Broncos would have
scored one more touchdown, for as rare as it was,
it wouldn't have been scored agami, because that was the
only game that we had in the NFL history where
a team scored exactly seventy points the opponents scored twenty seven.
(01:32):
At least the Broncos did their part in that way
and stayed at twenty. But we have a fifty point advantage.
Dolphins top the Broncos, and I just We're two days
removed from this game and I still am just fascinated
by everything that happened, how it played out. I'm fascinated
(01:53):
that the Broncos couldn't even take advantage of getting in
a game like this. Mike just craziness in South Florida
on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Well, I kind of chuckle about it for a number
of reasons, and certainly on the larger sports talk radio side,
there's a little bit of kind of smiling about Karma.
I mean, if we're gonna talk about Taylor Swift hanging
out with Travis Kelcey made one of those Karma is
a cat, you know, Blah, blah blah. So it was
one of her songs and John Payton did a lot
(02:20):
of chirping when he had his fox hat on and
post fox hat, and some of it came home to
roost in this matchup, particularly with Chuwa Tongue Bailoa. Now
the running backs going off, but you expected some resistance
the Denver defense basically no showing and then look, he's
(02:42):
got his fall gat. We talked about it before the season,
Dan with Russell Wilson, it's all going to hell very quickly,
and trying to solve, solve problems and come up for
answers doesn't matter. Mike McDaniel, I mean, he could have
done whatever he wanted, and I'm a little disappointed he
didn't take that scoring recor go match the seventy three
(03:02):
to notfin Bears Washington squad from nineteen forty. While he's
at it, you know what if they don't throw the
white flag, keep going.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, I thought eighty could have been in play.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
At one point too, I was like, maybe this is
this is the opportunity, but it was Listen, Denver had
to play a role in it, and they did it
because there were big plays. I don't fault Mike White
for throwing Denver gets the kickoff return, which Mike then
just puts the Dolphins Dolphins back on the field. It
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was crazy like it, and you needed a game like
that for Russell Wilson to get three hundred yards. And
not to make this a Broncos conversation, but just since
we're kind of there, I think it is part of
the conversation. The week prior, you needed Russell Wilson to
throw a fifty five yard hill Mary to get, you know,
to get to that benchmark. And so you just you're
(04:05):
just wondering, you know, what is going on in Denver
because it has been an awful start to the season,
and as you mentioned, the karma for Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, think about this Week.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
One, he doesn't bring back Brandon McManus, they bring in
the kicker that he wants, and they end up losing
to the Raiders because Will luttsmisses a couple of kicks.
Then in week two, they're up twenty one to three,
go all the way back, get the hell Mary, but
then there's no pass interference call in the end zone.
Kind of reminds me of NFC championship game, and now
(04:39):
you have this seventy burger that's dropped on him by
the former ball boy of the team that he's coaching.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I mean, just.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Like they did an interview, right, correct, So like you
got all of these things right. He took his shots
at Tua, was sitting on the padded chairs on the
Fox lot saying that Teddy Bridgewater would take over for him.
You've got all of this stuff kind of swirling up.
And when we look at it, and it's something Smith
(05:05):
and I talked about on our show on Fox Sports Radio,
is you know, there wasn't a whole lot of building
up the squad, right. There were shots at Hacket, shots
at the old regime. You know, there wasn't a whole
lot of positivity. Hey, we're not going to be walking
around in bucket hats and sunglasses and whatever else during
the preseason games. It was a lot of negativity, not
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a lot of building up of what was there and
talking up what this twenty twenty three Not that I
need them peacocking like every college coach and whatever, but
it was a lot of outward stuff as opposed to
what was being built in the organization.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
You know, we're not doing this, this, this, this, and this.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
But it was all from a negative standpoint and really
kind of building, you know, this level of trying to
insulate himself seemingly from what was going on where there
were like even the Russell Wilson stuff, it wasn't a
built of him.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It was all right.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Hackett was terrible and in my in my estimation, and
you and I have talked about this, you know, he
was kind of setting them up, setting it up as
if it goes bad. Now, clearly it's Russell Wilson's the
common link, sure, as oppered to anything me and my
staff might might or might not be able to do.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I would also say that maybe there was a reason
why he wasn't talking the mom Well yeah, I mean
you know that that part of it as well.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But you know, I ask you this.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
You know, through three weeks and you just chronicled a
number of the you know, decisions that he made. The
LUTs one right, bring in a guy that was familiar
to you, Okay McManus. McManus had a nice career.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
There in Denver.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Uh and gone okay, fine, Uh, blowing the lead and
then getting decimated here fastball gone has he got to
become a late career junk baller here or is it
just you? You inherit a bad product, because I mean
Russell Wilson, You and I stipulate he's not the same
clearly and hasn't been for a couple of years. But
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you look at the assembled roster of skill position guys
and the expectations that the defense, even if Fangio's gone
and it's vance Joseph, that they were supposed to be
at least serviceable, if not good. Right, we talked about
him coming into the year, and you know, just historically,
and here's what you have on all right, they'll be
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good enough at least for some of these games. And
I guess you could say, well, they've got the Bears
and Jets, so that'll normalize and look better. It doesn't
erase these three weeks and the fact that he's already
chirping and biting the heads off of reporters.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I don't think that he's lost his fastball.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
But I will say this about the Saints, and specifically
a Sean Payton led team, their best teams, Mike, were
actually when they had a running game, and whether it
be Kamara and Ingram whether you go back to the
ge Bush, Pierre Thomas, you know Pierre Thomas. Yeah, but
(08:05):
they could they could run the ball. Mike Bell was
a part of that, you know squad as well. They
Drew Brees got all of the headlines. And it wasn't
like there weren't reasonably you know, for for a lot
of reasons. But when they actually were two dimensional, so
you had to worry about brazy, you had to worry
(08:25):
about the running game. I think is actually when the
Saints were at their best.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Oh, I was able to pull the strings as a
play caller, yeah right, and create mismatches and where you'd
have those third receivers like Deverie Henderson and the likes
show up and become.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Robert Meacham flying down the field. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
When you had that, the Saints were really clicking. And
that's why that's why, you know, I just made the
comment of maybe he doesn't like what he hasn't, you
know in Denver.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But it's it's been a it's been a while.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I mean that was Super Bowl forty four, yeah, talking
about you know, or fourteen years removed from it. So
I would just like to see it more with his
pieces and maybe you know, George Peyton's ten years the
general manager there has not been good and the Russell
Wilson trade is the biggest of them all on his watch,
and you just wonder on what's going to happen after
(09:16):
the season with that sort of thing. So I would
still give Peyton a little time. I'm not ready to
call him out yet. It's just been been an awful start.
But they didn't they didn't capitalize on the Dolphins seventy points.
And I'll tell you what if you didn't start. You know,
devon a.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Chan now now that that's the a Chan.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Which I am going to mess up on every podcast
probably for the next four weeks and just trying to
remember because I finally got it to a chane and
remember it now it's a chan.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But that game isn't coming again. Sorry.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Oh but you know what, you know you're going to
chase it in terms of workload splits and whatever. At
least say and he's part of the offense and at
the running back position Dan as well to get to
in the waiver wire, it's some pretty slim pick and
so you're looking desperately for help wherever you can find it.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
But you're and you're going to start him every week
like now, there's no that's it right, Yeah, yeah, same
with most.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yeah, Mostert was a guy. I was actually just reviewing
some of my leagues and varied success and abject failures.
One league, I just want to burn it to the
ground already, but most are in an auction league.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I got for four bucks.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Just nobody trusted that situation. And when it was drafted.
This was before Dalvin Cook became and also ran it
with the Jets and was rumored to potentially beyond the
Dolphins radar.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I Jonathan Taylor is no longer on the radar, by the.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Way, that that's not going that don't need to go
down that road.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I've been a Mostert fan and I always.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I liked him in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, I had him last year. Then all of a
sudden bringing Jeff Wilson Junior, and I'm like, what are
you doing? And then Jeff Wilson Junior has a little
you know, little rest.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, but then it was Mostart at the end of
the year, and just because he's so darn fast, you
know that track background when he gets to the second level,
it's gone and there's value there. The one thing I
do wonder, Mike, because you do put up seventy points
and you're getting the ball all the time. They didn't
play with Jalen Waddle. On Saturday. Tyree Hill got eleven targets,
Moster got seven and then eight. Chan was the next
(11:27):
with four. So you're only really throwing to those guys
if you're you know, to Mike White. But if there
is a regression with anybody, is it is it in
that backfield? Do we see the Dolphins leaning more on that?
Is it Jalen Waddle because he was out? Is it
Tyreek Hill's mucco numbers? If there was a regression, where
(11:50):
do you guess it would be?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
I would guess you're gonna cut back a little bit
in the run game because Louk Wattle was what one
hundred and three catches or something like that, So I
mean you got to get him as part of your offense. Again,
going back to the what we were just talking about
of you know, being able to pull the strings and
having that balance, not that you don't with Tyreek Hill
going up and celebrating with the fans and putting up
(12:13):
pinball numbers, But how dangerous are you when Waddle's on
the other side. Unfortunate that he has to miss the game,
you know, after a hit where you know guy's going
to make a play redirected and you know, bent just
to the point where you have the helmet to helmet.
But I would, I would suspect you get a little
bit of a comeback from the rushing attempts. They had
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forty three rushing attempts here for us Brooks nine for
sixty six as well, including that fifty two yarder, but
so you know that's kind of the outlier, so just
scratch that away. But I would think, you know, you're
looking at trying to run the ball twenty five times
a game, in theory is probably where you want it
(12:55):
to be. And if you can play a little bit
of bully ball, and I think that's been the most
fun part to watch with the Dolphins, Dan is the
willingness to start on that and playing a bit of
sledgehammer and then you're backing out the you know, linebackers
suck up a little bit and now you're getting those
little quick hits for Tua and I mean he's hardly
been hit, like we're talking clean jersey Club three weeks
(13:17):
in a row.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, and that's the biggest question about him.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Well, but that's just it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
When everybody's like, well, how could you not have bought in,
I'm like, because you needed to see it, right, Yes,
on paper, it's like, yeah, the Dolphins will be good
if we're through three weeks. Yeah, right, and right now,
I'll put them. If I'm putting my power rankings, I'll
put them first, but with a giant question mark next
to it. No disrespect to Mike White, Forward, Jets Savior
(13:47):
and whatever comes in and has his two for two
sixty seven and one, that's great.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
But if Tua goes down, and I'm not wishing this
on anybody, but I'm a realist. It's the NFL seventy
five plus quarter took snaps last year.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Dan, No, You're right.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
The worry and the fear does not go away just
because they're playing and he's playing at an astronomical level.
It does not go away. I agree with you as
well that the running game takes a hit. And I
will also say this, I think there were a lot
of people when Jalen Waddle was ruled out, went to
the waiver wire, looked for Braxton Burrios looked for River
(14:24):
Craikkraft and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Just chosen. So you got your touchdown, you got your touchdown.
But you know there's one catch, right.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I didn't mention him at one point.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yes you did.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I did, and.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And and thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's the chosen one.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Literally it was one reception, but it paid off and
it was a touchdown. But yeah, there was there was
not much. There was not much coming off of that.
It was tyreek, it was most dirt and it was
eighth GN and that's what you got. And now if
Jayalen Walla comes in and it's back healthy out of
concussion protocol, I think that you'll probably just still see
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those four names. With the regression for the running backs,
I agree seventy Burger. Still, it's just weird to even
say it.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yeah, it's that's shock and all the other thing, just
you know, to put some positive spin. I guess from
the Denver side of things is I think you could
start Sutton as a back end to or high end
three with regularity. Eight of eleven in this one, okay, fine,
exacerbated by the lopsided score, but the prior two weeks
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seven targets and five targets. You're at least going to
get a handful of opportunities. What happens with them, I
don't know, but that's all we can We can play
to that you're at least seeing some semblance of consistency
in the offense trying to get him involved.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
He's by Carmen. I'm Dan Byert's the I Want Your
Flex Podcast. The executive producer is Ryan Berschinger. We're going
to take a time out here talk some more. Week three,
if someone was on fire with their predictions, it was
one Mike Harmon, and he told you to play a
guy this week, put him in his ninjas that if
you listened, you need just to subscribe and download this
(16:13):
podcast every single week because the guy probably won you
leagues and you probably didn't have to pay anything to
put him on your team. We'll tell you who that is.
That's next year and I Want Your Flex. Welcome back
to I Want Your Flex. He's Mike Carmon, I'm Dan Pyer.
Now it's kind of report card time. We'd like to
look back at some of the things that Mike picked
out for his rankings from Week three of the NFL hit.
(16:36):
What mass actually I just want to talk about the hits,
because there was one hit that was magnificent, Mike.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But I do got to get to your rankings. You
got to get to your top guys.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
You had this Josh Allen, great game against the Commanders,
Lamar Jackson, two touchdowns on the ground, great game and
even though in a loss for the Ravens, he had
Patrick Mahomes at number three.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
They carved up your bears. Sorry about that.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
But you know I didn't have to watch the second
half because on YouTube TV they preempted it.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Dan, they took Did they take you to a more
competitive game?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I paid the extra subscription fee so I could watch everything.
So right now I've lodged a complaint. We'll see what
customer service does with it. And I took it to
social media. But at halftime they went to Dallas and Arizona,
which is interesting because it was also a different camera
angle than what was on the actual fee. Sure, so
I had that on two thirds of my monitor, and
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then your Seattle Seahawks and Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
On the other.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Well, they were in LA. That was the local game
on the one, which is kind of kind of crazy.
But Seahawks honoring their Super Bowl forty eight victory with
those white jerseys, something we touched a little bit on
the Pod last week. But anyway, even in the lost,
Kirk Cousins put up, you hit your top five quarterback
rankings in splendid order. But I don't want to talk
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about that, Mike Carmen.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
No, okay, I got to talk about all the running
backs that let me down, well, because I'm gonna curse
them all out.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
No, Derreck Henry is being a problem.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's a problem right now.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Tony Polar didn't get into the end zone. It's still
at a buck twenty two for it. So yeah, so
I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We're talking Tank, We're talking Tank.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Dell Baby, it was uh this you put him in
your ninja's list against the Jaguars. I also thought it
was a game where you were going to see some points.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I do sometimes feel a little biased, you know, because CJ.
Stra you know, the.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Ohio State product and and my fandom there.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
But but right now he's earning every every bit of it.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
He made things look so easy, Like that's the thing
that you can take for granted. Sometimes when guys, you know,
make it look too easy or you think that it's
you know, not I'm trying to think of the right
way to put it. But when they make it look
so easy, almost think that it's not work, Like, oh,
this guy should be more you know, strenuous whatever, Right,
But it was CJ. Stroud and I told the story,
(19:06):
you know, after you gave your Ninjas.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But c J.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Stroud told the Texans draft Tank Dell, he and I
they developed some sort of rapport during the whole draft process.
They went out and got them and now what buck
forty five? I mean, big play capability. Kudos on the
Tank Dell play of the Texans against the Jaguars.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Appreciate that. Yeah, it just your opportunities. Look, the game
did not play out as I anticipated, quite clearly. I
think if we're looking at stuff as much as you know,
Houston's a team, and I think I relate it to
a little of what we were talking about on air
Monday night with the Rams and a lot with the
(19:48):
Cardinals is you're getting effort each week. And that's the
one thing with Dimiko Ryans right now, you're like, you
like the effort the Texans are coming with. And the
thing that's even scarier about this squad going forward, dan Is,
eventually they're going to actually have their offensive line playing right.
You got a whole offensive line of backups and they're
still professionals. I'd take nothing away from them, but they
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were not the five that you were expecting when you
put up the whiteboard, Dyke, if you went Bud Kilmer
or insert any fictional coach here where we always see
him with the magnets, Billy, Bob Thornton, you know, and
Friday night lights when he's dropping guys into the trash
can and putting up his depth chart. None of those
guys we're in the elevated first slot. So eventually eyebrows
(20:33):
raised of what CJ. Stroud's going to be able to accomplish.
But for Dell, five catches, seven targets the sixty eight
yard or one hundred and forty five and a score
back to back weeks with a touchdown back to back weeks,
giving you big play capability and reception totals three or
more receptions in each of these first three game. Sure
(20:54):
against Baltimore just three or four thirty four yards, but
back to back weeks were you've had some big return
seventeen targets over the last two weeks and scores in
each game. Yeah, I mean there's something to watch there.
You know, Nico Collins is interesting. I think he's a
guy that's going to put up some numbers for you
overall as well. There just might be a little more
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ebb and flow to what he does versus the connection
and trying to make the big splash with Dell Downfield.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
And there's something else that I like about the Texans,
And I've said this, I think they're the team that
you did not want to play in the second half
of the season.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I don't think they're going to make the playoffs. I
don't think.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I'm not trying to overreact from one week, but I
just know that that's a team that you're like, geez,
I wish we would have gotten them, you know, in
week four or week two or whatever the case is.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I know Jacksonville doesn't didn't want them in week three,
and they got them.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
And historically they've owned Jacksonville, right, Yeah, So like this
was just an extending of what has been a long
standing problem.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Ended up when they won their last year, you know,
Avon Walker at a penalty that ended up costing them
in that game.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So they there is something there.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
But you get another game against the Jaguars that is
on your schedule later on, so you'd have to say, hey,
that's that's pretty good. You have to think that, you know,
another Colts matchup. I don't know the plan Week eighteen,
so fantasy wise it may not work. But the point
being is that division is for the taking. Tennessee's great
against the run, can't defend the pass. You know, guess
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what here come CJ. Stroud and Nico Collins and Tank
Dell and the whole crew. So you're gonna get You're
gonna get opportunities against those squads. Heck, they play the Titans,
you know, another crazy schedule where they end up having
two games against the Titans at the end of the year.
But you know, yeah, if the Texans the Titans don't
get their run games squared away, c J. Stroud and
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Tank Dell and crew could be paying off of the postseason.
I really like what they've got going in Houston. Damian
Pierce has got to get going, Mike.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
But but that's the thing though, Dan, it's you know,
that's the by low opportunity right now with him, right
people are going to flock to the waiver wire, and
we'll get to that in short order in the series.
But you know that those guys are you know, for
Dell and for Stroud, they're going to be sexy pickups.
Pierce is languishing on someone's roster right now, yep, and
(23:20):
they're salty, and he's one of those guys like, well,
I have to play him because of dot dot dot,
But for the right offer, could probably be added to
your squad.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
They've got a game against the Steelers in a week four.
I think the Steelers will you know, bring their hard
hats and defense.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Then that'll be a fun game. Well, yeah, if you
like defensive football.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You got the Falcons, Saints defensively, Panthers seem to be
a mess, Buccaneers pretty good defensively. Then you got the Bengals, Cardinals, Jaguars, Broncos.
Like this is that's not it's not a murderer's row.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
No.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
By time you get to December, the Jets will have
revolted the road game against Tennessee Cleveland. I jackal and
Hyde kind of team going on right now, and then
you know again back to Tennessee in championship week. Yeah,
so all of that, but you know, just lavish the
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praise on your guy Stroud though.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I'm gonna I'm gonna make I'm gonna just talk about
the Survivor Pool and then you can have the floor
and you can wrap this up with our waiver wire
pickups for Week four with what we've got. But I
told you on the last Survivor pool, there are certain
things that I don't like in picking. I get a
little nervous picking divisional games much sure am not just
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because of what we saw, and the Jaguars are a
perfect example. I got put into a to a spot
where I ended up picking in a bunch of Survivor pools,
but I did end up in the end picking Jacksonville
in one of the pools, and that's the.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Exact reason why. But I also told.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
You in the podcast that we had on Thursday avoid Dallas,
the reason being because they were playing the Cardinals. And
there is this theory mic that the Cardinals are the
worst team in the NFL, and I thought that they
were entering the season, I thought that was going to
be the case. But at some point they are going
to win a game. And with the parody in the
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National Football League, it's just it's not smart only you
can only go so far, and likely a lot of
the people that are in the pool are also going
to be going that way. So that's how you can
really make hay with doing it. And I warned people
about picking against the Cardinals, even just after that Giants
game when they should have won and blew that lead.
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That came to fruition with the Cowboys losing twenty eight
to sixteen, knocking a bunch of people out of survival pools.
So Jacksonville and Dallas the biggest carnage that we saw
in week three. I told you to pick the Lions,
and if you did want to pick a favorite, sorry, Mike,
I told you to pick the Chiefs, So now you
don't take offense to it. But those were the two
so we hit at least on the survivor pools. But yeah,
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those Division games, even if it's a home game and
you're you know, the better teams a touchdown, are so favorite.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I just try to stay away from those as much
as you can.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Yeah, for the third straight week, just to give the
little thing on the Bears, Smith drived to sell that
they'd be in the game, and I looked at him
like he was crazy. I'm like, lay the twelve and
a half as fast as you can, just do it.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Why didn't you call me up because I saw those
big numbers. That was the running theme on My Sunday
show with George Reister, What do we do the red zone?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I'm like, why did I pick the Bears? Why did
I pick the Bears?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
At the points, I am so dumb, Like, there wasn't
a worse week for an organization. It wasn't even close,
and now you're gonna play arguably the best team in
the National Football League, even though they weren't playing great,
which was another reason why they were probably gonna get
back on track.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
It was just such a stupid pick by me. I
should have listened that.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I thought there might have been a little bit of
a stupid fantasy numbers on the back end, like maybe
maybe you know, running for his life field and then
he get put bad back out there after you know,
a cursory check for a concussion, which is a whole
other problem. But think about it, Taylor Swift's appearance at
that stadium was so large everybody forgot about the Bear's misery.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's true, that's true.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
It didn't matter. The entire week didn't matter. I still
have a lot of questions. I'm still upset, but you know,
it's one of those things that you flow through the
Dallas point. You know that also not only knocked a
lot of people out of pools, Dan, you want to
talk about the common link and a lot of parlay
bets on Sunday, Vegas Sportsbook started laughing and cackling as
(27:40):
soon as James Conner started running wild and Josh jobs
efficiently like Michael Parsons, I think you heard his name
once at the beginning of the game, and then he
finally got on to Dobbs pretty late.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I was like, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Think that's the first time you've said his name, sure
in a long long time. So, I mean, just a
good game plan, and you know, not to labor the
Arizona love here, but for Gannon, as much as he
failed in that opening press thing that they put out right,
that was so laughable. You know, how many of you
drove today and whatever else. They look like they're playing
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for him, don't they they do? And how much of
that is just you know, self preservation contracts whatever else.
But through three games, you've gotten You've gotten a legitimate effort.
Sean Payton can't claim that in Denver canny.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Fair enough, Yeah, fair I can't. I can't argue that.
I think that there is a ceiling of Arizona.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Sure Dallas.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Dallas was inside the Arizona ten yard line on their
four second half drives and they came up with six points.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Hey de absolete.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah, you know the interception, the turnover on downs is
you know, I mean, that's just not cashing it in
and that's you know, that's what being And again you
know they're up whatever on the Giants. But because the
Cardinals are the Cardinals, the Giants were able to come
back like there's a ceiling to it. But he just
you knew at some point they were going to win
because of what you said. They do, play hard, they do,
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they're a professional football team, and they showed up. Now
I think they're gonna get crushed by the Niners. Yes,
and I'm gonna go completely against my non picking a
division matchup. But I'll get to the survivor pick later
on the week. But that is a prime one that
we've gotten Week four. But yeah, kudos to the Arizona Cardinals.
And by the way, Bursch isn't here, but Bursch did
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say jump on the Chiefs defense not just because of
the Bears, Mike, but because of the Jets matchup they
had in Week four, and so paid off for Bursch
in that one in streaming defense.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Is you gonna put the Denver Broncos in his defense
for the coming week?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Because they got the Bears and then the Jets.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, hey, you think we'll find out on Thursday's episode
when Bursch gives us the streaming defense is all right,
let's get to your waiver wire pickups for week four.
The the guys that you know, all you fantasy football
players out there have got to go to your waiver
wires put claims in these guys.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So get him on your roster.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, I mean you have the obvious three. Just based
on percentages, CJ. Stroud's only owned in twenty percent of leagues,
and I'm looking at Yahoo, so that's a pretty big
sample size of people. Tank Dell owned in just thirty
two percent of leagues. Mentioned Courtland Sutton before talking about
the opportunities he's had. He's available about a third of
leagues right now. So you want to take a look.
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See there his quarterback, while you may not love him,
should be rostered Russell Wilson because if that defense doesn't
get fixed, guess what a lot of passing attempt seven
hundred ninety one yards thus far as six touchdowns, two
picks also along for the ride Mac Jones. Again, you
don't have to love him, you don't have to like
some of the decisions he makes. You can hold your nose.
You cannot watch the games, but he is firing the
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ball all over the place to the tune of already
seven hundred and fifty passing yards on the year, available
in about eighty percent of leagues. And finally, Jordan Love
still available in nearly thirty percent of leagues. You have
the yardage not as robust, but touchdown to interception ratio
is there, and they're starting to get healthy and I
think they'll click as the season goes on a little more. There,
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you look at the running back position, obviously h n
is available in about sixty percent of leagues. He'll be
first off the board. We've talked a lot about Jalen Warren.
Looking at the touch coount, particularly if you're in PPR leagues.
Already with twelve receptions, and let's face it, Najia Harris
is not the answer.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
So more Jalen Warren.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
I may have to say this every week until people
actually listen, but he's still available in like forty five
percent of leagues as we talk right now. And then
Rico Dowdell. Now, depending on what league service you use,
he is either a running back or a wide receiver.
Dan I picked him up in a league and he
was only available as a wide receiver. And so when
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you're talking about multiple flex pieces, you know, in a
guillotine league, that's fine. In other leagues, he's just a
running back, so keep an eye on that. But he's
already got twenty one touches. And I think with Tony Pollard,
as much as you know, we like the results. And
I've long been a Tony Pollard. I built the raft
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for folks to jump on. I don't think him touching
the ball twenty five times a game as a recipe
for getting through the end of the season into January.
So I think you're going to see more of downe
all as much as folks like Deuce Van.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh, that's where I was going to go to when
you're done.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
No, I was just gonna say, like duce Vaughan had
a role.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Now, granted they blew out the Jets in that game
in week two, but I was in a guillotine league
and lost Jamal Williams and Saquon Barkley all in week
two and was looking for running.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Back help anywhere.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Mike Sure got out bid by guys, and so then
you're just looking for whatever, And I'm like, well, let
me just give duce Vaughan. Maybe you'll catch a couple
of passes out of the backfield, take one for twenty
yards and be good with it and goose eggs across
the board.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So because it was all you know, Dowdell.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
But that's just it.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
You're taking You're taking chances. Right when we start looking
at those secondary and tertiary guys, uh, you know, games
and downs and distance. You know, we did a deep
dive on the Cowboys of all right, how much do
you love them? Uh at the at this point considering
they beat up on the Giants and Jets. Yeah, right,
But you know, opportunity is opportunity, and given the size
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of rosters, you know, we had a couple of year
trend it seem that rosters got smaller, Dan, I think
that's been reversed because looking at the waiver wire in general,
like percentages, it's not.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
As much of the availability.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
And we try to do this where we're looking at
at least a third to you know, half of league's
still have the player available. So legitimately we're reaching as
many folks as we can, and the number of players
that fit that criterion that I would consider rostering is
shrinking week by week.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I am one on other situation. Actually, you know, we'll
talk about it in the next podcast. Okay, it has
nothing to do with with pickups.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Well, I have three more wide receivers that quick, all right,
so to two at Well should have scored twice. He
got robbed of a touchdown. I'm still standing by that.
Show me conclusive evidence, man, show me conclusive evidence. But
maybe it's a different game.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I think I thought he was out.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I thought he was out, But I also have Kyron Williams,
and so I was completely biased, like, of course he's out.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
See three yard lines?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Nice and then they call a couple of terrible pass plays.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Rus Stafford doesn't get rid of the football and problems ensue.
When we look at Palmer in Los Angeles with Mike
Williams going down for the year, I know everybody's going
to want to pivot to Johnston. I don't think he's
ready to be that guy yet. And Palmer's familiarity uh
in that offense.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
And with Justin Herbert, he's he's available at ninety five
percent of leagues, so he's going to be one of
the big pickups and then going back to Indianapolis and
it might be short lived, but for the moment, Josh,
just someone at least to radar and if you've got,
you know, one of those dead roster spots, because let's
face it.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
The injury bugs hit us early this year.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Dan, he's available about ninety eight percent of leagues already
with fifteen catches.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Though, well, I'll tell you what. The Colts another topic
we're going to talk about in our next podcast.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, let's go. They aren't the only squad with the
quarterback situation. Even though Sheen Steichen planted the flag for
Anthony Richardson, as he should. Once Richardson's cleared, he should
be back quarterbacking. But maybe Gardner Minshew just gives them
a little better option, maybe a little better option fantasy
wise as well all the topics that we'll discover on
our next podcast. So all right, Harmon again, kudo's on
the tank. Dell, thanks in all of your quarterback rankings
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I think we have to start in South Florida. Let's
get right to it. Nobody I think listening to this
podcast ever remembers a game where there were seventy points
scored scored by a team that's.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
One of your favorites.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
To score a gamis, Oh, we can get some score
gam there's not to score at GAMI on Monday Night
as well the Eagles and Buccaneers. But the fact is
is that we had a team in the NFL that scored.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Seventy points and exactly seventy.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
It only one other time in the NFL MIC did
a team score seventy points in a game and the
opponent scored twenty seven. So if the Broncos would have
scored one more touchdown, for as rare as it was,
it wouldn't have been scored agami, because that was the
only game that we had in the NFL history where
a team scored exactly seventy points the opponents scored twenty seven.
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At least the Broncos did their part in that way
and stayed at twenty. But we have a fifty point advantage.
Dolphins top the Broncos, and I just We're two days
removed from this game and I still am just fascinated
by everything that happened, how it played out. I'm fascinated
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that the Broncos couldn't even take advantage of getting in
a game like this. Mike just craziness in South Florida
on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Well, I kind of chuckle about it for a number
of reasons, and certainly on the larger sports talk radio side,
there's a little bit of kind of smiling about Karma.
I mean, if we're gonna talk about Taylor Swift hanging
out with Travis Kelcey made one of those Karma is
a cat, you know, Blah, blah blah. So it was
one of her songs and John Payton did a lot
(02:20):
of chirping when he had his fox hat on and
post fox hat, and some of it came home to
roost in this matchup, particularly with Chuwa Tongue Bailoa. Now
the running backs going off, but you expected some resistance
the Denver defense basically no showing and then look, he's
(02:42):
got his fall gat. We talked about it before the season,
Dan with Russell Wilson, it's all going to hell very quickly,
and trying to solve, solve problems and come up for
answers doesn't matter. Mike McDaniel, I mean, he could have
done whatever he wanted, and I'm a little disappointed he
didn't take that scoring recor go match the seventy three
(03:02):
to notfin Bears Washington squad from nineteen forty. While he's
at it, you know what if they don't throw the
white flag, keep going.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, I thought eighty could have been in play.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
At one point too, I was like, maybe this is
this is the opportunity, but it was Listen, Denver had
to play a role in it, and they did it
because there were big plays. I don't fault Mike White
for throwing Denver gets the kickoff return, which Mike then
just puts the Dolphins Dolphins back on the field. It
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was crazy like it, and you needed a game like
that for Russell Wilson to get three hundred yards. And
not to make this a Broncos conversation, but just since
we're kind of there, I think it is part of
the conversation. The week prior, you needed Russell Wilson to
throw a fifty five yard hill Mary to get, you know,
to get to that benchmark. And so you just you're
(04:05):
just wondering, you know, what is going on in Denver
because it has been an awful start to the season,
and as you mentioned, the karma for Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I mean, think about this Week.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
One, he doesn't bring back Brandon McManus, they bring in
the kicker that he wants, and they end up losing
to the Raiders because Will luttsmisses a couple of kicks.
Then in week two, they're up twenty one to three,
go all the way back, get the hell Mary, but
then there's no pass interference call in the end zone.
Kind of reminds me of NFC championship game, and now
(04:39):
you have this seventy burger that's dropped on him by
the former ball boy of the team that he's coaching.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I mean, just.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Like they did an interview, right, correct, So like you
got all of these things right. He took his shots
at Tua, was sitting on the padded chairs on the
Fox lot saying that Teddy Bridgewater would take over for him.
You've got all of this stuff kind of swirling up.
And when we look at it, and it's something Smith
(05:05):
and I talked about on our show on Fox Sports Radio,
is you know, there wasn't a whole lot of building
up the squad, right. There were shots at Hacket, shots
at the old regime. You know, there wasn't a whole
lot of positivity. Hey, we're not going to be walking
around in bucket hats and sunglasses and whatever else during
the preseason games. It was a lot of negativity, not
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a lot of building up of what was there and
talking up what this twenty twenty three Not that I
need them peacocking like every college coach and whatever, but
it was a lot of outward stuff as opposed to
what was being built in the organization.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
You know, we're not doing this, this, this, this, and this.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
But it was all from a negative standpoint and really
kind of building, you know, this level of trying to
insulate himself seemingly from what was going on where there
were like even the Russell Wilson stuff, it wasn't a
built of him.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
It was all right.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Hackett was terrible and in my in my estimation, and
you and I have talked about this, you know, he
was kind of setting them up, setting it up as
if it goes bad. Now, clearly it's Russell Wilson's the
common link, sure, as oppered to anything me and my
staff might might or might not be able to do.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
I would also say that maybe there was a reason
why he wasn't talking the mom Well yeah, I mean
you know that that part of it as well.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But you know, I ask you this.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
You know, through three weeks and you just chronicled a
number of the you know, decisions that he made. The
LUTs one right, bring in a guy that was familiar
to you, Okay McManus. McManus had a nice career.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
There in Denver.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Uh and gone okay, fine, Uh, blowing the lead and
then getting decimated here fastball gone has he got to
become a late career junk baller here or is it
just you? You inherit a bad product, because I mean
Russell Wilson, You and I stipulate he's not the same
clearly and hasn't been for a couple of years. But
(07:02):
you look at the assembled roster of skill position guys
and the expectations that the defense, even if Fangio's gone
and it's vance Joseph, that they were supposed to be
at least serviceable, if not good. Right, we talked about
him coming into the year, and you know, just historically,
and here's what you have on all right, they'll be
(07:23):
good enough at least for some of these games. And
I guess you could say, well, they've got the Bears
and Jets, so that'll normalize and look better. It doesn't
erase these three weeks and the fact that he's already
chirping and biting the heads off of reporters.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
I don't think that he's lost his fastball.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
But I will say this about the Saints, and specifically
a Sean Payton led team, their best teams, Mike, were
actually when they had a running game, and whether it
be Kamara and Ingram whether you go back to the
ge Bush, Pierre Thomas, you know Pierre Thomas. Yeah, but
(08:05):
they could they could run the ball. Mike Bell was
a part of that, you know squad as well. They
Drew Brees got all of the headlines. And it wasn't
like there weren't reasonably you know, for for a lot
of reasons. But when they actually were two dimensional, so
you had to worry about brazy, you had to worry
(08:25):
about the running game. I think is actually when the
Saints were at their best.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Oh, I was able to pull the strings as a
play caller, yeah right, and create mismatches and where you'd
have those third receivers like Deverie Henderson and the likes
show up and become.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Robert Meacham flying down the field. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
When you had that, the Saints were really clicking. And
that's why that's why, you know, I just made the
comment of maybe he doesn't like what he hasn't, you
know in Denver.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
But it's it's been a it's been a while.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I mean that was Super Bowl forty four, yeah, talking
about you know, or fourteen years removed from it. So
I would just like to see it more with his
pieces and maybe you know, George Peyton's ten years the
general manager there has not been good and the Russell
Wilson trade is the biggest of them all on his watch,
and you just wonder on what's going to happen after
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the season with that sort of thing. So I would
still give Peyton a little time. I'm not ready to
call him out yet. It's just been been an awful start.
But they didn't they didn't capitalize on the Dolphins seventy points.
And I'll tell you what if you didn't start. You know,
devon a.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Chan now now that that's the a Chan.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Which I am going to mess up on every podcast
probably for the next four weeks and just trying to
remember because I finally got it to a chane and
remember it now it's a chan.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
But that game isn't coming again. Sorry.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Oh but you know what, you know you're going to
chase it in terms of workload splits and whatever. At
least say and he's part of the offense and at
the running back position Dan as well to get to
in the waiver wire, it's some pretty slim pick and
so you're looking desperately for help wherever you can find it.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
But you're and you're going to start him every week
like now, there's no that's it right, Yeah, yeah, same
with most.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
Yeah, Mostert was a guy. I was actually just reviewing
some of my leagues and varied success and abject failures.
One league, I just want to burn it to the
ground already, but most are in an auction league.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I got for four bucks.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Just nobody trusted that situation. And when it was drafted.
This was before Dalvin Cook became and also ran it
with the Jets and was rumored to potentially beyond the
Dolphins radar.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
I Jonathan Taylor is no longer on the radar, by the.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Way, that that's not going that don't need to go
down that road.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
I've been a Mostert fan and I always.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I liked him in San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, I had him last year. Then all of a
sudden bringing Jeff Wilson Junior, and I'm like, what are
you doing? And then Jeff Wilson Junior has a little
you know, little rest.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah, but then it was Mostart at the end of
the year, and just because he's so darn fast, you
know that track background when he gets to the second level,
it's gone and there's value there. The one thing I
do wonder, Mike, because you do put up seventy points
and you're getting the ball all the time. They didn't
play with Jalen Waddle. On Saturday. Tyree Hill got eleven targets,
Moster got seven and then eight. Chan was the next
(11:27):
with four. So you're only really throwing to those guys
if you're you know, to Mike White. But if there
is a regression with anybody, is it is it in
that backfield? Do we see the Dolphins leaning more on that?
Is it Jalen Waddle because he was out? Is it
Tyreek Hill's mucco numbers? If there was a regression, where
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do you guess it would be?
Speaker 5 (11:51):
I would guess you're gonna cut back a little bit
in the run game because Louk Wattle was what one
hundred and three catches or something like that, So I
mean you got to get him as part of your offense. Again,
going back to the what we were just talking about
of you know, being able to pull the strings and
having that balance, not that you don't with Tyreek Hill
going up and celebrating with the fans and putting up
(12:13):
pinball numbers, But how dangerous are you when Waddle's on
the other side. Unfortunate that he has to miss the game,
you know, after a hit where you know guy's going
to make a play redirected and you know, bent just
to the point where you have the helmet to helmet.
But I would, I would suspect you get a little
bit of a comeback from the rushing attempts. They had
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forty three rushing attempts here for us Brooks nine for
sixty six as well, including that fifty two yarder, but
so you know that's kind of the outlier, so just
scratch that away. But I would think, you know, you're
looking at trying to run the ball twenty five times
a game, in theory is probably where you want it
(12:55):
to be. And if you can play a little bit
of bully ball, and I think that's been the most
fun part to watch with the Dolphins, Dan is the
willingness to start on that and playing a bit of
sledgehammer and then you're backing out the you know, linebackers
suck up a little bit and now you're getting those
little quick hits for Tua and I mean he's hardly
been hit, like we're talking clean jersey Club three weeks
(13:17):
in a row.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, and that's the biggest question about him.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Well, but that's just it.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
When everybody's like, well, how could you not have bought in,
I'm like, because you needed to see it, right, Yes,
on paper, it's like, yeah, the Dolphins will be good
if we're through three weeks. Yeah, right, and right now,
I'll put them. If I'm putting my power rankings, I'll
put them first, but with a giant question mark next
to it. No disrespect to Mike White, Forward, Jets Savior
(13:47):
and whatever comes in and has his two for two
sixty seven and one, that's great.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
But if Tua goes down, and I'm not wishing this
on anybody, but I'm a realist. It's the NFL seventy
five plus quarter took snaps last year.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Dan, No, You're right.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
The worry and the fear does not go away just
because they're playing and he's playing at an astronomical level.
It does not go away. I agree with you as
well that the running game takes a hit. And I
will also say this, I think there were a lot
of people when Jalen Waddle was ruled out, went to
the waiver wire, looked for Braxton Burrios looked for River
(14:24):
Craikkraft and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Just chosen. So you got your touchdown, you got your touchdown.
But you know there's one catch, right.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I didn't mention him at one point.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yes you did.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
I did, and.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And and thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's the chosen one.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Literally it was one reception, but it paid off and
it was a touchdown. But yeah, there was there was
not much. There was not much coming off of that.
It was tyreek, it was most dirt and it was
eighth GN and that's what you got. And now if
Jayalen Walla comes in and it's back healthy out of
concussion protocol, I think that you'll probably just still see
(15:06):
those four names. With the regression for the running backs,
I agree seventy Burger. Still, it's just weird to even
say it.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
Yeah, it's that's shock and all the other thing, just
you know, to put some positive spin. I guess from
the Denver side of things is I think you could
start Sutton as a back end to or high end
three with regularity. Eight of eleven in this one, okay, fine,
exacerbated by the lopsided score, but the prior two weeks
(15:35):
seven targets and five targets. You're at least going to
get a handful of opportunities. What happens with them, I
don't know, but that's all we can We can play
to that you're at least seeing some semblance of consistency
in the offense trying to get him involved.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
He's by Carmen. I'm Dan Byert's the I Want Your
Flex Podcast. The executive producer is Ryan Berschinger. We're going
to take a time out here talk some more. Week three,
if someone was on fire with their predictions, it was
one Mike Harmon, and he told you to play a
guy this week, put him in his ninjas that if
you listened, you need just to subscribe and download this
(16:13):
podcast every single week because the guy probably won you
leagues and you probably didn't have to pay anything to
put him on your team. We'll tell you who that is.
That's next year and I Want Your Flex. Welcome back
to I Want Your Flex. He's Mike Carmon, I'm Dan Pyer.
Now it's kind of report card time. We'd like to
look back at some of the things that Mike picked
out for his rankings from Week three of the NFL hit.
(16:36):
What mass actually I just want to talk about the hits,
because there was one hit that was magnificent, Mike.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
But I do got to get to your rankings. You
got to get to your top guys.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
You had this Josh Allen, great game against the Commanders,
Lamar Jackson, two touchdowns on the ground, great game and
even though in a loss for the Ravens, he had
Patrick Mahomes at number three.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
They carved up your bears. Sorry about that.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
But you know I didn't have to watch the second
half because on YouTube TV they preempted it.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Dan, they took Did they take you to a more
competitive game?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (17:08):
I paid the extra subscription fee so I could watch everything.
So right now I've lodged a complaint. We'll see what
customer service does with it. And I took it to
social media. But at halftime they went to Dallas and Arizona,
which is interesting because it was also a different camera
angle than what was on the actual fee. Sure, so
I had that on two thirds of my monitor, and
(17:33):
then your Seattle Seahawks and Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
On the other.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Well, they were in LA. That was the local game
on the one, which is kind of kind of crazy.
But Seahawks honoring their Super Bowl forty eight victory with
those white jerseys, something we touched a little bit on
the Pod last week. But anyway, even in the lost,
Kirk Cousins put up, you hit your top five quarterback
rankings in splendid order. But I don't want to talk
(18:00):
about that, Mike Carmen.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
No, okay, I got to talk about all the running
backs that let me down, well, because I'm gonna curse
them all out.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
No, Derreck Henry is being a problem.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
It's a problem right now.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Tony Polar didn't get into the end zone. It's still
at a buck twenty two for it. So yeah, so
I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We're talking Tank, We're talking Tank.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Dell Baby, it was uh this you put him in
your ninja's list against the Jaguars. I also thought it
was a game where you were going to see some points.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I do sometimes feel a little biased, you know, because CJ.
Stra you know, the.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
Ohio State product and and my fandom there.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
But but right now he's earning every every bit of it.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
He made things look so easy, Like that's the thing
that you can take for granted. Sometimes when guys, you know,
make it look too easy or you think that it's
you know, not I'm trying to think of the right
way to put it. But when they make it look
so easy, almost think that it's not work, Like, oh,
this guy should be more you know, strenuous whatever, Right,
But it was CJ. Stroud and I told the story,
(19:06):
you know, after you gave your Ninjas.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
But c J.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Stroud told the Texans draft Tank Dell, he and I
they developed some sort of rapport during the whole draft process.
They went out and got them and now what buck
forty five? I mean, big play capability. Kudos on the
Tank Dell play of the Texans against the Jaguars.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Appreciate that. Yeah, it just your opportunities. Look, the game
did not play out as I anticipated, quite clearly. I
think if we're looking at stuff as much as you know,
Houston's a team, and I think I relate it to
a little of what we were talking about on air
Monday night with the Rams and a lot with the
(19:48):
Cardinals is you're getting effort each week. And that's the
one thing with Dimiko Ryans right now, you're like, you
like the effort the Texans are coming with. And the
thing that's even scarier about this squad going forward, dan Is,
eventually they're going to actually have their offensive line playing right.
You got a whole offensive line of backups and they're
still professionals. I'd take nothing away from them, but they
(20:10):
were not the five that you were expecting when you
put up the whiteboard, Dyke, if you went Bud Kilmer
or insert any fictional coach here where we always see
him with the magnets, Billy, Bob Thornton, you know, and
Friday night lights when he's dropping guys into the trash
can and putting up his depth chart. None of those
guys we're in the elevated first slot. So eventually eyebrows
(20:33):
raised of what CJ. Stroud's going to be able to accomplish.
But for Dell, five catches, seven targets the sixty eight
yard or one hundred and forty five and a score
back to back weeks with a touchdown back to back weeks,
giving you big play capability and reception totals three or
more receptions in each of these first three game. Sure
(20:54):
against Baltimore just three or four thirty four yards, but
back to back weeks were you've had some big return
seventeen targets over the last two weeks and scores in
each game. Yeah, I mean there's something to watch there.
You know, Nico Collins is interesting. I think he's a
guy that's going to put up some numbers for you
overall as well. There just might be a little more
(21:15):
ebb and flow to what he does versus the connection
and trying to make the big splash with Dell Downfield.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
And there's something else that I like about the Texans,
And I've said this, I think they're the team that
you did not want to play in the second half
of the season.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I don't think they're going to make the playoffs. I
don't think.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I'm not trying to overreact from one week, but I
just know that that's a team that you're like, geez,
I wish we would have gotten them, you know, in
week four or week two or whatever the case is.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I know Jacksonville doesn't didn't want them in week three,
and they got them.
Speaker 5 (21:47):
And historically they've owned Jacksonville, right, Yeah, So like this
was just an extending of what has been a long
standing problem.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Ended up when they won their last year, you know,
Avon Walker at a penalty that ended up costing them
in that game.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
So they there is something there.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
But you get another game against the Jaguars that is
on your schedule later on, so you'd have to say, hey,
that's that's pretty good. You have to think that, you know,
another Colts matchup. I don't know the plan Week eighteen,
so fantasy wise it may not work. But the point
being is that division is for the taking. Tennessee's great
against the run, can't defend the pass. You know, guess
(22:29):
what here come CJ. Stroud and Nico Collins and Tank
Dell and the whole crew. So you're gonna get You're
gonna get opportunities against those squads. Heck, they play the Titans,
you know, another crazy schedule where they end up having
two games against the Titans at the end of the year.
But you know, yeah, if the Texans the Titans don't
get their run games squared away, c J. Stroud and
(22:51):
Tank Dell and crew could be paying off of the postseason.
I really like what they've got going in Houston. Damian
Pierce has got to get going, Mike.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
But but that's the thing though, Dan, it's you know,
that's the by low opportunity right now with him, right
people are going to flock to the waiver wire, and
we'll get to that in short order in the series.
But you know that those guys are you know, for
Dell and for Stroud, they're going to be sexy pickups.
Pierce is languishing on someone's roster right now, yep, and
(23:20):
they're salty, and he's one of those guys like, well,
I have to play him because of dot dot dot,
But for the right offer, could probably be added to
your squad.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
They've got a game against the Steelers in a week four.
I think the Steelers will you know, bring their hard
hats and defense.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Then that'll be a fun game. Well, yeah, if you
like defensive football.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
You got the Falcons, Saints defensively, Panthers seem to be
a mess, Buccaneers pretty good defensively. Then you got the Bengals, Cardinals, Jaguars, Broncos.
Like this is that's not it's not a murderer's row.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
No.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
By time you get to December, the Jets will have
revolted the road game against Tennessee Cleveland. I jackal and
Hyde kind of team going on right now, and then
you know again back to Tennessee in championship week. Yeah,
so all of that, but you know, just lavish the
(24:18):
praise on your guy Stroud though.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
I'm gonna I'm gonna make I'm gonna just talk about
the Survivor Pool and then you can have the floor
and you can wrap this up with our waiver wire
pickups for Week four with what we've got. But I
told you on the last Survivor pool, there are certain
things that I don't like in picking. I get a
little nervous picking divisional games much sure am not just
(24:41):
because of what we saw, and the Jaguars are a
perfect example. I got put into a to a spot
where I ended up picking in a bunch of Survivor pools,
but I did end up in the end picking Jacksonville
in one of the pools, and that's the.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Exact reason why. But I also told.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
You in the podcast that we had on Thursday avoid Dallas,
the reason being because they were playing the Cardinals. And
there is this theory mic that the Cardinals are the
worst team in the NFL, and I thought that they
were entering the season, I thought that was going to
be the case. But at some point they are going
to win a game. And with the parody in the
(25:21):
National Football League, it's just it's not smart only you
can only go so far, and likely a lot of
the people that are in the pool are also going
to be going that way. So that's how you can
really make hay with doing it. And I warned people
about picking against the Cardinals, even just after that Giants
game when they should have won and blew that lead.
(25:42):
That came to fruition with the Cowboys losing twenty eight
to sixteen, knocking a bunch of people out of survival pools.
So Jacksonville and Dallas the biggest carnage that we saw
in week three. I told you to pick the Lions,
and if you did want to pick a favorite, sorry, Mike,
I told you to pick the Chiefs, So now you
don't take offense to it. But those were the two
so we hit at least on the survivor pools. But yeah,
(26:03):
those Division games, even if it's a home game and
you're you know, the better teams a touchdown, are so favorite.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I just try to stay away from those as much
as you can.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Yeah, for the third straight week, just to give the
little thing on the Bears, Smith drived to sell that
they'd be in the game, and I looked at him
like he was crazy. I'm like, lay the twelve and
a half as fast as you can, just do it.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Why didn't you call me up because I saw those
big numbers. That was the running theme on My Sunday
show with George Reister, What do we do the red zone?
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I'm like, why did I pick the Bears? Why did
I pick the Bears?
Speaker 4 (26:38):
At the points, I am so dumb, Like, there wasn't
a worse week for an organization. It wasn't even close,
and now you're gonna play arguably the best team in
the National Football League, even though they weren't playing great,
which was another reason why they were probably gonna get
back on track.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
It was just such a stupid pick by me. I
should have listened that.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
I thought there might have been a little bit of
a stupid fantasy numbers on the back end, like maybe
maybe you know, running for his life field and then
he get put bad back out there after you know,
a cursory check for a concussion, which is a whole
other problem. But think about it, Taylor Swift's appearance at
that stadium was so large everybody forgot about the Bear's misery.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
That's true, that's true.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
It didn't matter. The entire week didn't matter. I still
have a lot of questions. I'm still upset, but you know,
it's one of those things that you flow through the
Dallas point. You know that also not only knocked a
lot of people out of pools, Dan, you want to
talk about the common link and a lot of parlay
bets on Sunday, Vegas Sportsbook started laughing and cackling as
(27:40):
soon as James Conner started running wild and Josh jobs
efficiently like Michael Parsons, I think you heard his name
once at the beginning of the game, and then he
finally got on to Dobbs pretty late.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I was like, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Think that's the first time you've said his name, sure
in a long long time. So, I mean, just a
good game plan, and you know, not to labor the
Arizona love here, but for Gannon, as much as he
failed in that opening press thing that they put out right,
that was so laughable. You know, how many of you
drove today and whatever else. They look like they're playing
(28:15):
for him, don't they they do? And how much of
that is just you know, self preservation contracts whatever else.
But through three games, you've gotten You've gotten a legitimate effort.
Sean Payton can't claim that in Denver canny.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Fair enough, Yeah, fair I can't. I can't argue that.
I think that there is a ceiling of Arizona.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Sure Dallas.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Dallas was inside the Arizona ten yard line on their
four second half drives and they came up with six points.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Hey de absolete.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah, you know the interception, the turnover on downs is
you know, I mean, that's just not cashing it in
and that's you know, that's what being And again you
know they're up whatever on the Giants. But because the
Cardinals are the Cardinals, the Giants were able to come
back like there's a ceiling to it. But he just
you knew at some point they were going to win
because of what you said. They do, play hard, they do,
(29:05):
they're a professional football team, and they showed up. Now
I think they're gonna get crushed by the Niners. Yes,
and I'm gonna go completely against my non picking a
division matchup. But I'll get to the survivor pick later
on the week. But that is a prime one that
we've gotten Week four. But yeah, kudos to the Arizona Cardinals.
And by the way, Bursch isn't here, but Bursch did
(29:26):
say jump on the Chiefs defense not just because of
the Bears, Mike, but because of the Jets matchup they
had in Week four, and so paid off for Bursch
in that one in streaming defense.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
Is you gonna put the Denver Broncos in his defense
for the coming week?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Because they got the Bears and then the Jets.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Yeah, hey, you think we'll find out on Thursday's episode
when Bursch gives us the streaming defense is all right,
let's get to your waiver wire pickups for week four.
The the guys that you know, all you fantasy football
players out there have got to go to your waiver
wires put claims in these guys.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
So get him on your roster.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, I mean you have the obvious three. Just based
on percentages, CJ. Stroud's only owned in twenty percent of leagues,
and I'm looking at Yahoo, so that's a pretty big
sample size of people. Tank Dell owned in just thirty
two percent of leagues. Mentioned Courtland Sutton before talking about
the opportunities he's had. He's available about a third of
leagues right now. So you want to take a look.
(30:22):
See there his quarterback, while you may not love him,
should be rostered Russell Wilson because if that defense doesn't
get fixed, guess what a lot of passing attempt seven
hundred ninety one yards thus far as six touchdowns, two
picks also along for the ride Mac Jones. Again, you
don't have to love him, you don't have to like
some of the decisions he makes. You can hold your nose.
You cannot watch the games, but he is firing the
(30:45):
ball all over the place to the tune of already
seven hundred and fifty passing yards on the year, available
in about eighty percent of leagues. And finally, Jordan Love
still available in nearly thirty percent of leagues. You have
the yardage not as robust, but touchdown to interception ratio
is there, and they're starting to get healthy and I
think they'll click as the season goes on a little more. There,
(31:08):
you look at the running back position, obviously h n
is available in about sixty percent of leagues. He'll be
first off the board. We've talked a lot about Jalen Warren.
Looking at the touch coount, particularly if you're in PPR leagues.
Already with twelve receptions, and let's face it, Najia Harris
is not the answer.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
So more Jalen Warren.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
I may have to say this every week until people
actually listen, but he's still available in like forty five
percent of leagues as we talk right now. And then
Rico Dowdell. Now, depending on what league service you use,
he is either a running back or a wide receiver.
Dan I picked him up in a league and he
was only available as a wide receiver. And so when
(31:52):
you're talking about multiple flex pieces, you know, in a
guillotine league, that's fine. In other leagues, he's just a
running back, so keep an eye on that. But he's
already got twenty one touches. And I think with Tony Pollard,
as much as you know, we like the results. And
I've long been a Tony Pollard. I built the raft
(32:14):
for folks to jump on. I don't think him touching
the ball twenty five times a game as a recipe
for getting through the end of the season into January.
So I think you're going to see more of downe
all as much as folks like Deuce Van.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh, that's where I was going to go to when
you're done.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
No, I was just gonna say, like duce Vaughan had
a role.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Now, granted they blew out the Jets in that game
in week two, but I was in a guillotine league
and lost Jamal Williams and Saquon Barkley all in week
two and was looking for running.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Back help anywhere.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
Mike Sure got out bid by guys, and so then
you're just looking for whatever, And I'm like, well, let
me just give duce Vaughan. Maybe you'll catch a couple
of passes out of the backfield, take one for twenty
yards and be good with it and goose eggs across
the board.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So because it was all you know, Dowdell.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
But that's just it.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
You're taking You're taking chances. Right when we start looking
at those secondary and tertiary guys, uh, you know, games
and downs and distance. You know, we did a deep
dive on the Cowboys of all right, how much do
you love them? Uh at the at this point considering
they beat up on the Giants and Jets. Yeah, right,
But you know, opportunity is opportunity, and given the size
(33:25):
of rosters, you know, we had a couple of year
trend it seem that rosters got smaller, Dan, I think
that's been reversed because looking at the waiver wire in general,
like percentages, it's not.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
As much of the availability.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
And we try to do this where we're looking at
at least a third to you know, half of league's
still have the player available. So legitimately we're reaching as
many folks as we can, and the number of players
that fit that criterion that I would consider rostering is
shrinking week by week.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I am one on other situation. Actually, you know, we'll
talk about it in the next podcast. Okay, it has
nothing to do with with pickups.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Well, I have three more wide receivers that quick, all right,
so to two at Well should have scored twice. He
got robbed of a touchdown. I'm still standing by that.
Show me conclusive evidence, man, show me conclusive evidence. But
maybe it's a different game.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I think I thought he was out.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
I thought he was out, But I also have Kyron Williams,
and so I was completely biased, like, of course he's out.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
See three yard lines?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Nice and then they call a couple of terrible pass plays.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Rus Stafford doesn't get rid of the football and problems ensue.
When we look at Palmer in Los Angeles with Mike
Williams going down for the year, I know everybody's going
to want to pivot to Johnston. I don't think he's
ready to be that guy yet. And Palmer's familiarity uh
in that offense.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (34:49):
And with Justin Herbert, he's he's available at ninety five
percent of leagues, so he's going to be one of
the big pickups and then going back to Indianapolis and
it might be short lived, but for the moment, Josh,
just someone at least to radar and if you've got,
you know, one of those dead roster spots, because let's
face it.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
The injury bugs hit us early this year.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Dan, he's available about ninety eight percent of leagues already
with fifteen catches.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Though, well, I'll tell you what. The Colts another topic
we're going to talk about in our next podcast.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Yeah, let's go. They aren't the only squad with the
quarterback situation. Even though Sheen Steichen planted the flag for
Anthony Richardson, as he should. Once Richardson's cleared, he should
be back quarterbacking. But maybe Gardner Minshew just gives them
a little better option, maybe a little better option fantasy
wise as well all the topics that we'll discover on
our next podcast. So all right, Harmon again, kudo's on
the tank. Dell, thanks in all of your quarterback rankings
(35:41):
that you hit. We'll do it again. So for Mike Harmon,
hit him up at Swallow Dome. And our executive producer
Ryan Berchinger, I'm Dan Bayer. Hit me up at Dan
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