June 27, 2024 • 39 mins
Former NFL quarterback Shaun King is in for Rob, and he and Chris explain why they have no issue with Rich Paul pulling the strings to ensure that Bronny James gets drafted by the Los Angeles Lakers, tell us how playing in the NBA with his son might impact LeBron’s legacy and how Bronny might fit on this current Lakers roster. Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Antonio Daniels swings by to discuss why he’s excited to see Bronny and LeBron play in the NBA together, the nepotism that runs rampant through all aspects of the NBA, what we can expect from Bronny at the next level, the international takeover of the NBA and much more!
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Man?
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Man? What is up?
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Man?
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I'm so honored to be on this great platform. You
and Rob, great chemistry, entertaining, always a great listen. Thank
you from the bottom with my heart for allowing me
to fill in for one of you while Rob takes
a little vacation. I'm sure he's at a baseball stadium
somewhere right join and join the America's favorite pastime.
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Well, look, man, make yourself at home, have fun, and look,
I'm gonna let you know the road it gets rocky,
it might get a little bumpy because I come hard,
you know what I'm saying. And my guest, you know,
Rob G has been in that seat and left bruised
and banged up and eat from Salime and Martin Weiss
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who you just heard on the update. They all have
taken lumps when they sit in that seat. So when
it gets a little bumpy, just persevere and fight through
it like you used to when you play football.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Well, Daddy raised the tough cookies, so I think I'd
be okay over here.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Okay, we're about to do our thing to have some fun.
We got Antonio Daniels at the bottom of the hours
good day to talk to him, obviously, with the NBA
Draft come finishing up and the odd couple of crews'
super producer Rob G.
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Is in the house.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
DJ Alex ty Shirt is in the house on the
ones and the twos on this TV theme song Thursday
on the updates. That's right, Martin Weiss, who spent the
first three days of the week sitting in Sean King's seat,
did a great job. And on the social media, our
man Elijah Sabuna. All right, Sean, let's get to it.
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The news of the day really the most exciting thing,
certainly in the second round of the draft, and Rob
G's gonna bring us up to speed. Bronnie James to
the Lakers to play with his dad.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Rob G set the With.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
The fifty to fifth pick in the twenty twenty four
NBA Draft, the Los Angeles Lakers select Bronnie James from
the University of Southern California.
Speaker 7 (03:52):
That's right, the shocker of all shockers in the world
of NBA. Ronnie James going fifty to fifth in Los Angeless.
Why And if you've been following the news updates all
day long like I have, then you know that this
pick is not without controversy because early in the second round,
ESPN reported that Rich Paul was calling and texting gms
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around the league saying, if you draft Bronnie before the
Lakers do, we are sending him to Australia. You are
not gonna be taking Bronnie James. And obviously that caused
the big firestorm, both on real media and on social media.
Which is interesting because three years ago, the Lakers got
Austin Reeves in the exact same fashion he was following
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in the draft. His agent called people say, hey, don't
take Austin Reeves. We wanted to be an undrafted free
agent because we have a team lined up ready to
sign him. That's what happened here with Bronnie James, only
this time they took him with the fifty fifth pick.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, there you have it. So and look, I'm gonna
say this, I'm not mad at Rich Paul.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
If you've got the power, if you you've got the juice,
use it. And I'm gonna be honest off the court.
It has been rare that African Americans have had this
kind of juice. It's nepotism for show. I mean, I
don't know that Bronni James gets drafted if his dad
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isn't Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I don't know that the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I mean, I'm leading it know that the Lakers draft
him if his dad isn't Lebron James. But ever heard
of David Adelman, hot young name now on the coaching market,
assistant coach. Guess who his dad is Rick Adelman? Ever
heard of Michael Malone who led the Denver Nuggets to
the championship last year?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Guess who his dad was? A longtime NBA coach, Michael
or Brendan Malone. And that's just the name a few.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Donny Nelson Junior, remember, used to coach the Mavericks. His
dad was Donny Nelson Senior, the NBA Hall of Famer.
This is all throughout the NBA. Even on the court.
You see Giannis's brother playing with the Bucks, Jr.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Smith, who was not a star.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
His brother had a cup of coffee with the Knicks
for a little while when Jr.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Was there. It happens, and as Rob g pointed out Austin.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Reeves and his agent did it three years ago, and
Rich Paul looked. There was talk Sean that some team
might draft Bronnie and try to hold up the Lakers
and say, look, we'll give you that Bronnie for two
second round picks or something like that. And I was saying,
on the first thing's first look, wouldn't be wise because
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Rich Paul's got thirty five players in the league, a
lot of them top players, and he's not the only
agent with that type of power, but you can wield.
You don't want to get on the bad side of
some of these agents. Jeff Schwartz is a powerful one,
you know, Aaron Mintz, Austin Brown, Bill Duffy. So there
are some powerful agents out there. And he used his
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power and his juice to really make a dream come
true for lebron And I think a dream come true
for Bronni to just get into the NBA.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And now it is up to Bronnie to make the
most of it.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
You know, it's interesting because it's a fascinating topic because
it's so many different dynamics. Like you brought up the
power vacuum that Rich Paul has created because not just
of the amount of players that he has, but the
caliber and how he controls destinations and where marquee guys
end up going. You talked about Lebron having stated his
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goal ultimately was to play with his son before he
left the game of basketball. I don't think it's any
of those things, Chris. I think it's just envy, jealousy,
and hate. Like people are up and on who did
Bronny go in front of that? People are so mad about, Like, no,
who in the second round was such a great player
that even if Brinnie would have went first pick of
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the second round. The NBA drafts unknown talent every year.
I remember the lottery yesterday. I'm listening to it, and
it seemed almost every player, the dialogue and evaluation was
the same. Probably someone that's not going to contribute immediately,
come off the bench, maybe a G League developed might mean,
come on, that's what the NBA has turned into. People
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just want to either love or hate Lebron, but they
have a strong opinion either way. I'm happy that Bronnie
got a chance to realize his dream of being drafted.
I'm glad it's with his dad, and I think Brianani's
gonna be a damn good player. I'm in a group two.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
What do you mean, damn good player? What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I would take Brinnie right now, one on one versus
Gate Vincent, who the Lakers side last year in free
agency to a three year, thirty three million dollar deal.
It's not like Brinie can't play.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
What it's about. I don't care who the best one
on one player.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
You you think right now Bronnie James is better than
Gabe Vincent?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I take Brownie right now. I think I think Briannie
is a good player.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Christ I can't say he's not a good player to say,
right I don't know what evidence other than his jeens
that you have and I get.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I will give him grace on his first year rookie.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You know, freshman year at USC where he averaged less
than five points a game shot I.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Believe below forty percent from the floor.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'll give him grace on that because we all know
he went through you know, the Cardiaker hass I definitely
think that had an impact.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But still, yeah, he shot.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Thirty six percent from the floor, twenty six percent from three.
I there's no way right now I would say he's
better than a Gabe Vincent.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Now I pick I pick it. I picked Gay because
heightwise they're similar. It's hard to put him up against something.
You mean, if he does have won to figure and
see that, he probably can't over overcome it's his hype.
But I mean, look how you shot the ball at
the NBA combine. I think he has handled. I think
he has elite athleticism for a guy's side. I think
the one thing that Bronnie has not developed, and it's
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interesting because I think it's what held his dad back.
I don't think he's really turned into a true alpha
dog yet, Hey give me the ball, I'm gonna take shots.
I'm gonna score, which really mimics lebron in a lot
of ways. So I think Bronni tried so hard to
fit in and be liked that he really hadn't developed it.
But I think is there, it'll come out. I'm gonna
be on the other side of this. I think le
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Brony's gonna develop into a pretty good player.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Like an All Star caliber player.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Maybe fringe. The only reason I say friends is because
there's some dynamic guards in front of him. When you
talk All Star team that he'd have to beat out
in the West. So I mean, I don't know what
that looks like. As far as making an ALLSO team.
He's gonna be a solid, I think, if not starter,
first off the bench kind of guy. It's gonna play defense,
give you a good minutes, stay out of trouble, be
good for your locker room. You know. It was eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
There was an article by Tom Haberstrow, who we had
on the show last week.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I worked with him at the old Network, Great.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Reporter, and he talked about how the son's legacies, right
the Seth Curry. We're not even talking about Steph and
Dell Curry because Steph obviously was just ultra talented, but
Seth Curry who had to really fight to get in
the league, Chris other yeah sons, Jalen Brunson, whose dad
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Rick was a journeyman in the NBA, as Hardy Yes,
the well, the story was that the legacies the kids
of NBA players, they outperform their draft slot.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
So in this case, Brownie's drafted fifty.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Fifth, he will be better than the fifty fifth pick
in a draft typically is. And now it was about
thirty percent of the time that that happens, but that
is higher than most other situations for players that aren't legacy.
So look, I think he will be a solid rotation
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player at some point. I don't know how soon he's not.
I think he's a very good athlete. I don't think
he's a freak athlete, which is kind of what you
need to be at that size, maybe six twoish, because
he's not a like I kind of feel like, I mean,
I want to see him be a true point I agree,
you know, like he's got I don't know, I'm not
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saying he.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Has it to the level of his dad.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The court vision and the intelligence and the cerebra. I mean,
I remember first time I saw him playing high school
and he was just a freshman coming off the bench.
But I said, man, you can see he sees the
game somewhat like his dad. He's certainly seeing it on
the level that the rest of these guys, and some
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of them were high schooled Americans who were older than him,
aren't seeing it. So I kind of would like to
see him as a point guard that obviously is his size.
I think to be a two at that size, you
kind of gotta be freakish or maybe just a phenomenal shooter,
which he's not at this point. But I do think
he can be a hard nosed defender who gets after
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it and can hit the three relatively well. And that,
at least initially Sean is going to be how he
gets on the court, and then once he solidifies himself
as a rotation player, then you can start adding to
other things to your game that might take you beyond that.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
How much credence do you put into his ability to
shoot the basketball at the NBA Combine because he shot
not a ton.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I mean, I think it's fine, but you know, I'm
put more credence in his performance throughout the season and
again given some grace because I know he was in
a tough situation, but I'm not gonna just I mean
it was he shot it tremendously without, you know, in
the drills, without anything. And let me ask you a
question because there's a difference there.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Sometimes we say things and I have to go and
double check what I say to make sure that you know,
the data backs up my opinion. People talking about having
to be such an elite athlete at Brownie's height, I mean,
Peyton Pritchard is contributing for the Celtics. They just won
the World championship. He's not an elite athlete yet. TJ McConnell.
He's not an elite athlete. He can't shoot it off,
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but says six ft.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
But here's the things. Connelly was a point guard. That's
why I'm saying you don't have to be a super
elite athlete at six y two to play point I
don't think Kyrie Irving is like a super elite athlete.
When I say super elite, I'm talking about playing being
six one sixty two and essentially being.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
A two guard.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Alan Iverson he was freakish athletically, that's why he could
do it. Yeah, can he be a Peyton Pritchard, I
think one day, sure player.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Prichard worked the fifty fifth pick in the draft. They
will say, hell, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well we we think he'll overperform the fifty fifth pick.
But I mean, if your bar is Peyton Pritchard t
J McConnell, Yeah, okay, a backup point guard, I mean
you could be that, but you you said it like
That's why I had to see what you're talking about,
because you.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Said special or very good.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Like I think it's gonna be better than those guys.
I used Guy as an example because I think Brownie
is a better athlete than all three guys I named.
I'm not down.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Either, but I'm just keeping it real and you you
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Speaker 1 (16:49):
He is Sean King in for Rob Parker and we
are live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Let
me ask you this, Sewn, because you really like like Brianie.
I think he look, he's obviously got the intelligence of
his dad. Uh, he's got. He is a good athlete.
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He's a he's a definitely a plus athlete. I don't
think he's a super freak athlete, but he's certainly a
plus athlete.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And I think he's I think he will be a
rotation player.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
He has said that his kind of comps that he
would like to, you know, become like a Drew Holliday,
Derek White type guy. And I see that now. He's
not quite as big as those guys, but he is,
you know, uh, certainly got more or at least as
much athleticism as they have. And he could be a
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type of defender like that if he puts his mind
to it, which I think he will.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So let me ask you this. Do you.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Have any issues with nepotism in sports, because obviously it
was at work here.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I said, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It's all over the NBA, NFL, Kyle Shanahan, you know,
who obviously is a great coach, but still you get
your foot in the door through things like, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Nepotism in these cases.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Steve Belichick was on Bill Belichick's coach is that you know,
so what do you have any issue with that and
with the way it played out in this situation.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Not at all. I think it's an advantage. Actually, Lane
Kiffin comes to mind, Like when you look at the
high profile sons of whether it be players, are coaches
who were elite, I mean they've all done relatively well
for the most part. Now you have your outlines, you
have your Nathaniel Hackett, you know who can teams will
get a job. People really don't understand why. But for
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the most part, I mean Shanahan's legit top five to
six coaching football. You know, Lane Kiffin has old missing
my opinion on the cusp of competing for a college
football playoff birth you know we all was mentioned the
article earlier about the lineage in the NBA and how
it translates. Harris Grant's sons turned out to be good
NBA players. Tim Hardaway's son is playing at a high level.
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Del Curry's sons like you continue to Bill Bill Walton's sons,
like for the moment, even Scotty Pippens sons. They aren't
like starting players right now in the league. It's a
lot of guys Gary Payton's son, you know. So it's
proven track records that the sons have outperformed their draft.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I was gonna say, because the guys you mentioned Pippin',
uh Gary Trent, Gary Trent Junior's dad played, you know,
it was the shock of the mac lay Thompson. Clay
obviously is a star, but I mean you mentioning guys
Kenyon Martin son that were questionable as to whether they
were NBA players, right, and you're absolutely right, Like all
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of them have become contributors, really good contributors to a team.
If Briannie can be a Gary Peyton junior somebody like.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Like, that's that's that's legit.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Man, you know, I mean I always, I always look
at it through the prison. You know, me and you
have children. If one of our sons was a fifty
fifth pick in the NBA draft, man, we would be
doing cartwheels down to the neighborhood right now. Like if
one of our.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Sons was just because that would mean I had a
son that I didn't know about.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
But you know what I mean, we put like that
son on this pedestal there. I mean, I think it's
gonna be. I just buckled the seatbelt.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You go ahead and say it with your chest because
you like to be.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
One day, are you willing to go there?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Absolutely, he's gonna be right on the cuffs for being
an All Star.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
The only no, no, no, no, no no no. I didn't
say on the cuffs.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I said because look, if he's that nice where he's
you know, let's I'm trying to think of a player
that's kind of close Jamal Murray. I mean, and Jamal
is a unique example because he's such a clutch player
in the playoffs, but.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
He's never made an All Star Game, right right, right,
and he should.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
He's because he's a baller. Because the All Star Game
in the NBA is a popularity contest, and unlike the NFL,
everybody goes.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So you don't like the NFL. In the NFL, and
the Pro Bowl has lost all credibility.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
That's what I'm saying. Everybody makes the Pro Bowl because
none of the guys that are elected go My point
being in the NBA, everybody shows up.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So everybody that's become an All Star. But you're saying
he'll be an All Star caliber player, and.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I'm saying if he does, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Being Ronnie James will I would think help get him
into the All Star Game. If he's like right there
and it's like, oh, he's an All Star level player,
there's no doubt.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And I'm not talking about the twenty twenty five season,
of course, yeah, once.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
He was thirty five season.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
It's not a This is not a traft pick with trading,
by the way, the most lucas part of the NBA
is I mean they trade picks a decade out and
fan bases get all like excited.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
You know what though, now you know that's currency. That's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's not even about like san Antonio traded the number
eight pick for some of those picks. I think that's
currency for future trades, not so much, Oh we're gonna
draft somebody.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
You know.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
The side effect of it, though, Chris, It diminishes the
draft because they push get into what. It makes the
draft less less captivating because you never watched the NBA draft, Like, oh,
who's ever draft is gonna change my franchise this upcoming year.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You do now and then we know, but we gotta
get We'll get into that net later.
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Speaker 9 (23:15):
What's up, brother, Chris Maassar shock, dang, how you guys doing? Man?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
We are great, my man, we are great, and let's
get it. We got a lot to get into. The
big news, of course, coming out of this, at least
the second round of the draft. Bronnie James teaming up
with his dad Antonio. I mean, you've been around the game,
the NBA game for close to thirty years. Did you
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ever think you'd see something like this? They're the first
father son duo to play together. It's an awesome story.
Did you ever think you'd see this?
Speaker 9 (23:50):
No? I mean the thing is realistically, you don't even
think about this, But no one ever thought about this
until Lebron said I want I want to play with
my son. You know because if you look at like
I just saw a the roster for like the seventeen
and under USA basketball team, Bill breenus the son is
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on their, Trevor Resa's son's on there, Carmela Anthony's sons
on there, Bryce James is on there, and just like
the wild thing to think about, like, people are going
to hate on this forever. It's a given because it's
Lebron's Dames, so people are gonna hate it. Rich Paul
I can't believe he did this and told people not
all this other kind of self. The fact of the
matter is I got three kids. I got a daughter
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that at eighteen, we have a daughter that's thirteen, and
I got a son that's six. I would love to
play with my son. I would love that. I'm sure
Carmelo Anthony would love to play with his son Jill,
but Arenas would love to play with his son. Trevor
Resa would love to play with his son. This is
rare air that we're talking about, and as opposed to
people constantly hating on it and thinking of a reason
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to dislike it or discredit Bronnie James for this, man,
sit back in enjoy.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I'm with you, and if anything, I think it enhances
Bron's legacy because he's done something that, to be honest,
nobody's really been able to do, which is be elite
for so long that he did have a child that
comes around and he's still not just on a team.
He's a legit All Star caliber player.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
I mean, my thing with Lebron is his legacy is
what it is. I don't think this like the only
thing I feel like now that can enhance Lebron's legacy
is simpisious. That's it. I think that's where Lebron is
that just think about it. He's the NBA's all time
leading scorer, he's top five and assists like him playing
with his son isn't going to move him up. In
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the Gold conversation, Lebron is one of the greatest to
ever do it. No matter what whether or not Bron
he was playing with Lebron or not. When we start
talking about legacy as far as NBA standards are concerned,
I think it's great what he's doing now. I think
it's untreched than what he's doing now. But the only
thing I think that actually changes Lebron's legacy moving forward
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is bringing another championship to La.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
You got You be careful, Chris. There's an emotional component
to this that, for all the good Lebron is done,
never really got in any trouble being a stand up dude,
He's still kind of a polarizing figure. It's a lot
of love but also a lot of hate when it
comes as evaluation. Let us have a big time mowning
Antonio when him and his son participate sometime in the
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near future and win a game together. His transition as
far as how beloved he is, I think still is unfinished.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
Oh Will. When we talk about that kind of legacy,
I think that's different. When I think of legacy, I
think of in between the four lines. That's what I
think of legacy. That's what I'm referencing, Like his legacy
as a family man, his legacy as an entrepreneur, his
legacy as a role model, his legacy as a stand
up individual. That is what it is. And I'm with
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you there because with Lebron, a ton of love, but
there's also a ton of hate, you know, and with this,
you know, as soon as Bronnie got drafted, all right,
I went to social media just to see what people
were saying, and the fact that people were kind of
upset at the amount of power that Lebron James has,
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that Rich Paul has. That that kind of puts things
in perspective for me as far as the view that
people are seeing this from and Antonio.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You know, man, Nepotism is rampant throughout the NBA, you know,
I mean, let's just keep it real. I mean, Yan
is his brother's playing in Milwaukee, Jos my brother once
played with the Knicks. And the coaching is and look
they're good coach, like Michael Malone is a great coach.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
But his dad coached in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That was his path, you know, David Adams, Steve.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
Steve son, his son Nick is the coach. There's the
league team. But there you go, Twick Golds goals. When
you go to a family business, you know what they
do in family business, they hire their family. So why
are people acting like Lebron James is the only one
to do I can't believe that they are doing this.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Oh my god, Every day.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Have you seen enough of Bronnie to.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Give an idea of when you think he might or
if he ever might become like a you know, a
rotation player may be a starter, and what kind of
players do you think he could grow into.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
My thing is, I don't think any of us are
knowledge enough to say right now what Bronni will become,
because there are so many guys that were slipped on
and we're talked bad about and end up becoming some
special like the Bingers. When you go to the combine
and you do the cone tests and the best press
tests and the vertical tests and all these different kind
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of a they can measure a lot and they test
a lot, but there are certain things that are within
guys that you can't measure, and we don't know that
from the outside looking at We have no idea. I
have no idea what kind of player Broni's going to be.
I see people talking about, Oh my gosh, I can't
believe this dude averaged five points per game and he
went fifty to fifth in the draft. Well didn't the
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first pick in the draft that was like nine points
the game? Right? What are we what are we talking about?
What are we talking about the guy that Atlanta drafted.
I can't pronounce his.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Name, Zachary Roshe. Yeah, yeah, what are you ever?
Speaker 9 (29:30):
Nine ten points a game? I mean, the thing is,
but the thing is, we don't know what guys are
going to become because we don't understand and know guys
work ethics in the motor that they have.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Let heads ahead, Briannie actually out scored him. Where was
that at Rabji when they played two years ago?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah? Yeah, let me ask you this quickly, and well,
go ahead, go ahead, you can go ahead, Sean.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Let me ask you this because you you want to
you want a world championship, because you were a better
fit in San Antonio than you were in Vancouver who
drafted you. Shout out to Vancouver Grizzlies back in the day.
By the way, how does Bronnie fit match up with
the Lakers current roster?
Speaker 9 (30:14):
He doesn't. Right now, he doesn't. I mean, that's being honest. Now,
I think what Bronnie will do, he'll be on the
roster and he'll be a part of their G League team.
Like Riz Paul saying, I don't want Bronnie to sign
a two way contract. What Ris Paul did not say.
He didn't say that Bronnie couldn't plan the G League.
He just said I don't want him signing a two
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way deal, you know, so Bronnie can steal and Esens
go down and play the G League, which I'm sure
he will because the thing that Rich Paul or lebron
James that they don't want to do. They don't want
to stun his growth, and a part of growing is
taking that same route going to the G League, getting
some reps. What the G League season starts after the
NBA season does, So when the season does start, Bronnie
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will be on the LA Lakers roster. But I'm not
expecting Bronnie to be a rotating guy. I'm not expecting
Bronnie to be a guy that's out there ten to
fifteen minutes. I'm not expecting him to get any playing
time unless it's a blowout.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Antonio uh In In about two minutes of your answer,
what'd you make? I mean three the top two players
were from France. It's three of the top six were
from France. Obviously a lot of international players taking not
a lot of like college players, at least at the
top of the draft.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Even if you know you have some G League guys.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
What riek of that?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And what do you make of it going forward? I
mean we've kind of seen it coming, but what are.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Your thoughts on it?
Speaker 9 (31:39):
For sure? Well, obviously the game has become international. You know,
you look at the past what five or six MVPs?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Right, you know none of.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
Them are are American more. I'll tell you what I
find interesting though. What I find so incredibly interesting is
how four year guys and even three there guys are
looked at in the NBA draft like that really really
attractive fifty year old lady in the club. It's like,
oh my god, you know what, Like you really look good,
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but you're here for a reason, so something has to
be wrong with you. But if a guy is twenty
two years old, like if I told you now that
Anthony Edwards was a finished product, wouldn't you tell me
I'm crazy?
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yes, right?
Speaker 9 (32:24):
So why do we think that guys when they come
out of college at twenty two years old or finished product?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well, I would say this, I do think that a
lot of these guys and you can just look at
the Knicks with the Villanova guys that stayed three and
four years like a lot of times those guys come
in more ready to contribute, more mature, even if they're
not as talented. Right, But I do think, I do think,
(32:50):
and I want your thoughts on this before you go.
I think Antonio the reason people look negatively at a
guy like Dalton Cannett, right, who went such has a
great pick for the Lakers. But I think, and don't you,
I do think it's a little fair. You have to
balance it. But to say, okay, he's twenty three playing
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against younger players. The guys his age that are really
good are in the NBA already, so he is playing
against a lesser you know, competition, I think that's fair.
I think it has to be balanced. But I do
think there's some fairness there.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
And you know, for me, I just don't. I don't.
They're caving guys out right. When you look at guys
that I look at a Jose Alvarado, I look at
a a Naji Marshall, I look at Trey Murphy, I
look at Desmond Bane. All these guys, Kyle Kuzma, all
these guys came in rotation ready, you know what I mean.
And it's because they went to school for three or
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four years, Like I don't. I struggle with that. I
struggle with that because a lot of times guys are
being drafted, Like like, Sean, you said I was a
better fit in san Antonio then I was in Vancouver.
When I would say is I felt like san Antonio
believed in me more than Vancouver did, right. You know,
It's like Vancouver almost had a microwave thought process, even
(34:13):
though it was their third year in existence. San Antonio
was like, Okay, we're gonna sit back, We're gonna let
this simmer and let's see what you can become here,
you know. And I felt like a lot of times,
these guys that are drafting at eighteen and nineteen years old,
that are one to two years removed from prom are
not ready to be the face of an organization.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
But that's that's certainly the truth.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
That's our man, Antonio Daniels, grace of as always, brother,
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
For sure, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah you brought it up, Sean. We're gonna get into
it next.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Does this impact Lebron's legacy positively. I got a text
from a friend saying, this is a little notch on
Lebron's goat argument.
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King in for Rob Parker Love from the Tie right
dot com studios. You brought up, Sean, so do you
actually feel like Bronie like you brought up? This enhances
Lebron's legacy having you know, his son play on the
team with him, first time in NBA history. I would
(35:34):
agree with Antonio. Off the court, I mean, Lebron's got
a tremendous legacy off the court, a great family man,
and you know, it's a great example. I love that
with his kids, obviously what he's done as far as
speaking out on injustices, but also building the school and
his you know, helping his high school friends grow.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Into business moguls.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
So he's done a tremendous amount of stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Off of the court, and I think this is just
adds to his legacy of just being a great man.
But I don't think this plays any role whatsoever. And
I'm not just saying that because I think Jordan's the goat.
I just don't see how in the world this has
any impact on the goat discussion as we have it,
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who's the best basketball player?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Well again, once you finished playing in a lot of ways,
like your legacy not necessarily completely crisp, but in some
ways impacted by if you would like or disliked. All
I'm saying is Bronnie James now being in LA Listen,
they added a great offensive component in Dalton connect They're
not that far away from, in my opinion, being a
(36:49):
little more competitive in the Western Conference. If potentially the
Lakers with bron and Bronni make it to a Western
Conference championship in the next two years and Brini participates
it all even doesn't just those visuals confetti coming from
the rafters, Brian hugging his son, like.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Those confetti coming from the rafters for just getting Hey,
I'm just saying in l A'm just that are gonna
last forever. So what are you saying if they get
to the if they get to the Western Conference finals, yes,
in the next two years, that enhances the Bron's legacy.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
He was in the Western Conference finals two years ago.
One year ago. That's a long time ago. One year ago,
you know.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
But they've been in a playing game of two years
after that, so that.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That they were in the play they went from the
play in to the Western or were they in a
c they went, but they got to the Western Conference finals,
rob what I think they were in the play in
last year but still got to the Western Conference finals.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
All I'm saying isn't this and I don't want to
over emphasise this, but I think this does inject some
potential energy into the end of Lebron's career that doesn't
necessarily just revolve around can he win another championship?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well, I will get Like I said, I do think
it enhances his legacy as a man, as a great father.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
What was that?
Speaker 5 (38:18):
This the first ever, right first ever.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
In the NBA.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
We saw Ken Griffy and King Griffy Junior in baseball,
but this is a first And look, all you gotta
do is do to math like if Lebron wasn't superhuman
in terms of playing twenty two years, he wouldn't have
played with Bronnie, you know what I'm saying, Like that's
that's the thing. Is he is he entered the league
young and then has played so long. So that's that's
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why we've never seen it, because just age wise, it's
almost impossible in many cases. But I, like I said,
I think it's it is phenomenal, but I don't think
it is or plays a role in the goat debate.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
And for the record, I'm MJ number one without argument period.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
So you have Lebron number two.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
So here's where I kind of plead the fifth. I'm
forty seven. Most men over fifty five that I know
all say Kareem Abdul Jabbar I wasn't old enough actually
witnesses playing. So I mean somewhere somewhere with Kareem Kobe
Broun's in that mixture for second, third or fourth. Wow.
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The news of the day really the most exciting thing,
certainly in the second round of the draft, and Rob
G's gonna bring us up to speed. Bronnie James to
the Lakers to play with his dad.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Rob G set the With.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
The fifty to fifth pick in the twenty twenty four
NBA Draft, the Los Angeles Lakers select Bronnie James from
the University of Southern California.
Speaker 7 (03:52):
That's right, the shocker of all shockers in the world
of NBA. Ronnie James going fifty to fifth in Los Angeless.
Why And if you've been following the news updates all
day long like I have, then you know that this
pick is not without controversy because early in the second round,
ESPN reported that Rich Paul was calling and texting gms
(04:16):
around the league saying, if you draft Bronnie before the
Lakers do, we are sending him to Australia. You are
not gonna be taking Bronnie James. And obviously that caused
the big firestorm, both on real media and on social media.
Which is interesting because three years ago, the Lakers got
Austin Reeves in the exact same fashion he was following
(04:36):
in the draft. His agent called people say, hey, don't
take Austin Reeves. We wanted to be an undrafted free
agent because we have a team lined up ready to
sign him. That's what happened here with Bronnie James, only
this time they took him with the fifty fifth pick.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, there you have it. So and look, I'm gonna
say this, I'm not mad at Rich Paul.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
If you've got the power, if you you've got the juice,
use it. And I'm gonna be honest off the court.
It has been rare that African Americans have had this
kind of juice. It's nepotism for show. I mean, I
don't know that Bronni James gets drafted if his dad
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isn't Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I don't know that the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I mean, I'm leading it know that the Lakers draft
him if his dad isn't Lebron James. But ever heard
of David Adelman, hot young name now on the coaching market,
assistant coach. Guess who his dad is Rick Adelman? Ever
heard of Michael Malone who led the Denver Nuggets to
the championship last year?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Guess who his dad was? A longtime NBA coach, Michael
or Brendan Malone. And that's just the name a few.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Donny Nelson Junior, remember, used to coach the Mavericks. His
dad was Donny Nelson Senior, the NBA Hall of Famer.
This is all throughout the NBA. Even on the court.
You see Giannis's brother playing with the Bucks, Jr.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Smith, who was not a star.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
His brother had a cup of coffee with the Knicks
for a little while when Jr.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Was there. It happens, and as Rob g pointed out Austin.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Reeves and his agent did it three years ago, and
Rich Paul looked. There was talk Sean that some team
might draft Bronnie and try to hold up the Lakers
and say, look, we'll give you that Bronnie for two
second round picks or something like that. And I was saying,
on the first thing's first look, wouldn't be wise because
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Rich Paul's got thirty five players in the league, a
lot of them top players, and he's not the only
agent with that type of power, but you can wield.
You don't want to get on the bad side of
some of these agents. Jeff Schwartz is a powerful one,
you know, Aaron Mintz, Austin Brown, Bill Duffy. So there
are some powerful agents out there. And he used his
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power and his juice to really make a dream come
true for lebron And I think a dream come true
for Bronni to just get into the NBA.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And now it is up to Bronnie to make the
most of it.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
You know, it's interesting because it's a fascinating topic because
it's so many different dynamics. Like you brought up the
power vacuum that Rich Paul has created because not just
of the amount of players that he has, but the
caliber and how he controls destinations and where marquee guys
end up going. You talked about Lebron having stated his
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goal ultimately was to play with his son before he
left the game of basketball. I don't think it's any
of those things, Chris. I think it's just envy, jealousy,
and hate. Like people are up and on who did
Bronny go in front of that? People are so mad about, Like, no,
who in the second round was such a great player
that even if Brinnie would have went first pick of
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the second round. The NBA drafts unknown talent every year.
I remember the lottery yesterday. I'm listening to it, and
it seemed almost every player, the dialogue and evaluation was
the same. Probably someone that's not going to contribute immediately,
come off the bench, maybe a G League developed might mean,
come on, that's what the NBA has turned into. People
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just want to either love or hate Lebron, but they
have a strong opinion either way. I'm happy that Bronnie
got a chance to realize his dream of being drafted.
I'm glad it's with his dad, and I think Brianani's
gonna be a damn good player. I'm in a group two.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
What do you mean, damn good player? What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I would take Brinnie right now, one on one versus
Gate Vincent, who the Lakers side last year in free
agency to a three year, thirty three million dollar deal.
It's not like Brinie can't play.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
What it's about. I don't care who the best one
on one player.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
You you think right now Bronnie James is better than
Gabe Vincent?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I take Brownie right now. I think I think Briannie
is a good player.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Christ I can't say he's not a good player to say,
right I don't know what evidence other than his jeens
that you have and I get.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I will give him grace on his first year rookie.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
You know, freshman year at USC where he averaged less
than five points a game shot I.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Believe below forty percent from the floor.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I'll give him grace on that because we all know
he went through you know, the Cardiaker hass I definitely
think that had an impact.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
But still, yeah, he shot.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Thirty six percent from the floor, twenty six percent from three.
I there's no way right now I would say he's
better than a Gabe Vincent.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Now I pick I pick it. I picked Gay because
heightwise they're similar. It's hard to put him up against something.
You mean, if he does have won to figure and
see that, he probably can't over overcome it's his hype.
But I mean, look how you shot the ball at
the NBA combine. I think he has handled. I think
he has elite athleticism for a guy's side. I think
the one thing that Bronnie has not developed, and it's
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interesting because I think it's what held his dad back.
I don't think he's really turned into a true alpha
dog yet, Hey give me the ball, I'm gonna take shots.
I'm gonna score, which really mimics lebron in a lot
of ways. So I think Bronni tried so hard to
fit in and be liked that he really hadn't developed it.
But I think is there, it'll come out. I'm gonna
be on the other side of this. I think le
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Brony's gonna develop into a pretty good player.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Like an All Star caliber player.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
Maybe fringe. The only reason I say friends is because
there's some dynamic guards in front of him. When you
talk All Star team that he'd have to beat out
in the West. So I mean, I don't know what
that looks like. As far as making an ALLSO team.
He's gonna be a solid, I think, if not starter,
first off the bench kind of guy. It's gonna play defense,
give you a good minutes, stay out of trouble, be
good for your locker room. You know. It was eighteen nineteen.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
There was an article by Tom Haberstrow, who we had
on the show last week.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I worked with him at the old Network, Great.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Reporter, and he talked about how the son's legacies, right
the Seth Curry. We're not even talking about Steph and
Dell Curry because Steph obviously was just ultra talented, but
Seth Curry who had to really fight to get in
the league, Chris other yeah sons, Jalen Brunson, whose dad
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Rick was a journeyman in the NBA, as Hardy Yes,
the well, the story was that the legacies the kids
of NBA players, they outperform their draft slot.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
So in this case, Brownie's drafted fifty.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Fifth, he will be better than the fifty fifth pick
in a draft typically is. And now it was about
thirty percent of the time that that happens, but that
is higher than most other situations for players that aren't legacy.
So look, I think he will be a solid rotation
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player at some point. I don't know how soon he's not.
I think he's a very good athlete. I don't think
he's a freak athlete, which is kind of what you
need to be at that size, maybe six twoish, because
he's not a like I kind of feel like, I mean,
I want to see him be a true point I agree,
you know, like he's got I don't know, I'm not
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saying he.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Has it to the level of his dad.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The court vision and the intelligence and the cerebra. I mean,
I remember first time I saw him playing high school
and he was just a freshman coming off the bench.
But I said, man, you can see he sees the
game somewhat like his dad. He's certainly seeing it on
the level that the rest of these guys, and some
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of them were high schooled Americans who were older than him,
aren't seeing it. So I kind of would like to
see him as a point guard that obviously is his size.
I think to be a two at that size, you
kind of gotta be freakish or maybe just a phenomenal shooter,
which he's not at this point. But I do think
he can be a hard nosed defender who gets after
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it and can hit the three relatively well. And that,
at least initially Sean is going to be how he
gets on the court, and then once he solidifies himself
as a rotation player, then you can start adding to
other things to your game that might take you beyond that.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
How much credence do you put into his ability to
shoot the basketball at the NBA Combine because he shot
not a ton.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
I mean, I think it's fine, but you know, I'm
put more credence in his performance throughout the season and
again given some grace because I know he was in
a tough situation, but I'm not gonna just I mean
it was he shot it tremendously without, you know, in
the drills, without anything. And let me ask you a
question because there's a difference there.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Sometimes we say things and I have to go and
double check what I say to make sure that you know,
the data backs up my opinion. People talking about having
to be such an elite athlete at Brownie's height, I mean,
Peyton Pritchard is contributing for the Celtics. They just won
the World championship. He's not an elite athlete yet. TJ McConnell.
He's not an elite athlete. He can't shoot it off,
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but says six ft.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
But here's the things. Connelly was a point guard. That's
why I'm saying you don't have to be a super
elite athlete at six y two to play point I
don't think Kyrie Irving is like a super elite athlete.
When I say super elite, I'm talking about playing being
six one sixty two and essentially being.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
A two guard.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Alan Iverson he was freakish athletically, that's why he could
do it. Yeah, can he be a Peyton Pritchard, I
think one day, sure player.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Prichard worked the fifty fifth pick in the draft. They
will say, hell, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well we we think he'll overperform the fifty fifth pick.
But I mean, if your bar is Peyton Pritchard t
J McConnell, Yeah, okay, a backup point guard, I mean
you could be that, but you you said it like
That's why I had to see what you're talking about,
because you.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Said special or very good.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Like I think it's gonna be better than those guys.
I used Guy as an example because I think Brownie
is a better athlete than all three guys I named.
I'm not down.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
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me ask you this, Sewn, because you really like like Brianie.
I think he look, he's obviously got the intelligence of
his dad. Uh, he's got. He is a good athlete.
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He's a he's a definitely a plus athlete. I don't
think he's a super freak athlete, but he's certainly a
plus athlete.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
And I think he's I think he will be a
rotation player.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
He has said that his kind of comps that he
would like to, you know, become like a Drew Holliday,
Derek White type guy. And I see that now. He's
not quite as big as those guys, but he is,
you know, uh, certainly got more or at least as
much athleticism as they have. And he could be a
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type of defender like that if he puts his mind
to it, which I think he will.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
So let me ask you this. Do you.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Have any issues with nepotism in sports, because obviously it
was at work here.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
I said, I'm fine with it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It's all over the NBA, NFL, Kyle Shanahan, you know,
who obviously is a great coach, but still you get
your foot in the door through things like, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Nepotism in these cases.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Steve Belichick was on Bill Belichick's coach is that you know,
so what do you have any issue with that and
with the way it played out in this situation.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Not at all. I think it's an advantage. Actually, Lane
Kiffin comes to mind, Like when you look at the
high profile sons of whether it be players, are coaches
who were elite, I mean they've all done relatively well
for the most part. Now you have your outlines, you
have your Nathaniel Hackett, you know who can teams will
get a job. People really don't understand why. But for
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the most part, I mean Shanahan's legit top five to
six coaching football. You know, Lane Kiffin has old missing
my opinion on the cusp of competing for a college
football playoff birth you know we all was mentioned the
article earlier about the lineage in the NBA and how
it translates. Harris Grant's sons turned out to be good
NBA players. Tim Hardaway's son is playing at a high level.
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Del Curry's sons like you continue to Bill Bill Walton's sons,
like for the moment, even Scotty Pippens sons. They aren't
like starting players right now in the league. It's a
lot of guys Gary Payton's son, you know. So it's
proven track records that the sons have outperformed their draft.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I was gonna say, because the guys you mentioned Pippin',
uh Gary Trent, Gary Trent Junior's dad played, you know,
it was the shock of the mac lay Thompson. Clay
obviously is a star, but I mean you mentioning guys
Kenyon Martin son that were questionable as to whether they
were NBA players, right, and you're absolutely right, Like all
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of them have become contributors, really good contributors to a team.
If Briannie can be a Gary Peyton junior somebody like.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Like, that's that's that's legit.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Man, you know, I mean I always, I always look
at it through the prison. You know, me and you
have children. If one of our sons was a fifty
fifth pick in the NBA draft, man, we would be
doing cartwheels down to the neighborhood right now. Like if
one of our.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Sons was just because that would mean I had a
son that I didn't know about.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
But you know what I mean, we put like that
son on this pedestal there. I mean, I think it's
gonna be. I just buckled the seatbelt.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
You go ahead and say it with your chest because
you like to be.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
One day, are you willing to go there?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Absolutely, he's gonna be right on the cuffs for being
an All Star.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
The only no, no, no, no, no no no. I didn't
say on the cuffs.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
I said because look, if he's that nice where he's
you know, let's I'm trying to think of a player
that's kind of close Jamal Murray. I mean, and Jamal
is a unique example because he's such a clutch player
in the playoffs, but.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
He's never made an All Star Game, right right, right,
and he should.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
He's because he's a baller. Because the All Star Game
in the NBA is a popularity contest, and unlike the NFL,
everybody goes.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So you don't like the NFL. In the NFL, and
the Pro Bowl has lost all credibility.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
That's what I'm saying. Everybody makes the Pro Bowl because
none of the guys that are elected go My point
being in the NBA, everybody shows up.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
So everybody that's become an All Star. But you're saying
he'll be an All Star caliber player, and.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I'm saying if he does, I think.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Being Ronnie James will I would think help get him
into the All Star Game. If he's like right there
and it's like, oh, he's an All Star level player,
there's no doubt.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
And I'm not talking about the twenty twenty five season,
of course, yeah, once.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
He was thirty five season.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
It's not a This is not a traft pick with trading,
by the way, the most lucas part of the NBA
is I mean they trade picks a decade out and
fan bases get all like excited.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
You know what though, now you know that's currency. That's
the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
It's not even about like san Antonio traded the number
eight pick for some of those picks. I think that's
currency for future trades, not so much, Oh we're gonna
draft somebody.
Speaker 9 (22:20):
You know.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
The side effect of it, though, Chris, It diminishes the
draft because they push get into what. It makes the
draft less less captivating because you never watched the NBA draft, Like, oh,
who's ever draft is gonna change my franchise this upcoming year.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You do now and then we know, but we gotta
get We'll get into that net later.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
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Speaker 9 (23:15):
What's up, brother, Chris Maassar shock, dang, how you guys doing? Man?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
We are great, my man, we are great, and let's
get it. We got a lot to get into. The
big news, of course, coming out of this, at least
the second round of the draft. Bronnie James teaming up
with his dad Antonio. I mean, you've been around the game,
the NBA game for close to thirty years. Did you
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ever think you'd see something like this? They're the first
father son duo to play together. It's an awesome story.
Did you ever think you'd see this?
Speaker 9 (23:50):
No? I mean the thing is realistically, you don't even
think about this, But no one ever thought about this
until Lebron said I want I want to play with
my son. You know because if you look at like
I just saw a the roster for like the seventeen
and under USA basketball team, Bill breenus the son is
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on their, Trevor Resa's son's on there, Carmela Anthony's sons
on there, Bryce James is on there, and just like
the wild thing to think about, like, people are going
to hate on this forever. It's a given because it's
Lebron's Dames, so people are gonna hate it. Rich Paul
I can't believe he did this and told people not
all this other kind of self. The fact of the
matter is I got three kids. I got a daughter
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that at eighteen, we have a daughter that's thirteen, and
I got a son that's six. I would love to
play with my son. I would love that. I'm sure
Carmelo Anthony would love to play with his son Jill,
but Arenas would love to play with his son. Trevor
Resa would love to play with his son. This is
rare air that we're talking about, and as opposed to
people constantly hating on it and thinking of a reason
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to dislike it or discredit Bronnie James for this, man,
sit back in enjoy.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I'm with you, and if anything, I think it enhances
Bron's legacy because he's done something that, to be honest,
nobody's really been able to do, which is be elite
for so long that he did have a child that
comes around and he's still not just on a team.
He's a legit All Star caliber player.
Speaker 9 (25:22):
I mean, my thing with Lebron is his legacy is
what it is. I don't think this like the only
thing I feel like now that can enhance Lebron's legacy
is simpisious. That's it. I think that's where Lebron is
that just think about it. He's the NBA's all time
leading scorer, he's top five and assists like him playing
with his son isn't going to move him up. In
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the Gold conversation, Lebron is one of the greatest to
ever do it. No matter what whether or not Bron
he was playing with Lebron or not. When we start
talking about legacy as far as NBA standards are concerned,
I think it's great what he's doing now. I think
it's untreched than what he's doing now. But the only
thing I think that actually changes Lebron's legacy moving forward
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is bringing another championship to La.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
You got You be careful, Chris. There's an emotional component
to this that, for all the good Lebron is done,
never really got in any trouble being a stand up dude,
He's still kind of a polarizing figure. It's a lot
of love but also a lot of hate when it
comes as evaluation. Let us have a big time mowning
Antonio when him and his son participate sometime in the
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near future and win a game together. His transition as
far as how beloved he is, I think still is unfinished.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
Oh Will. When we talk about that kind of legacy,
I think that's different. When I think of legacy, I
think of in between the four lines. That's what I
think of legacy. That's what I'm referencing, Like his legacy
as a family man, his legacy as an entrepreneur, his
legacy as a role model, his legacy as a stand
up individual. That is what it is. And I'm with
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you there because with Lebron, a ton of love, but
there's also a ton of hate, you know, and with this,
you know, as soon as Bronnie got drafted, all right,
I went to social media just to see what people
were saying, and the fact that people were kind of
upset at the amount of power that Lebron James has,
(27:17):
that Rich Paul has. That that kind of puts things
in perspective for me as far as the view that
people are seeing this from and Antonio.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
You know, man, Nepotism is rampant throughout the NBA, you know,
I mean, let's just keep it real. I mean, Yan
is his brother's playing in Milwaukee, Jos my brother once
played with the Knicks. And the coaching is and look
they're good coach, like Michael Malone is a great coach.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
But his dad coached in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
That was his path, you know, David Adams, Steve.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
Steve son, his son Nick is the coach. There's the
league team. But there you go, Twick Golds goals. When
you go to a family business, you know what they
do in family business, they hire their family. So why
are people acting like Lebron James is the only one
to do I can't believe that they are doing this.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Oh my god, Every day.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Have you seen enough of Bronnie to.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Give an idea of when you think he might or
if he ever might become like a you know, a
rotation player may be a starter, and what kind of
players do you think he could grow into.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
My thing is, I don't think any of us are
knowledge enough to say right now what Bronni will become,
because there are so many guys that were slipped on
and we're talked bad about and end up becoming some
special like the Bingers. When you go to the combine
and you do the cone tests and the best press
tests and the vertical tests and all these different kind
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of a they can measure a lot and they test
a lot, but there are certain things that are within
guys that you can't measure, and we don't know that
from the outside looking at We have no idea. I
have no idea what kind of player Broni's going to be.
I see people talking about, Oh my gosh, I can't
believe this dude averaged five points per game and he
went fifty to fifth in the draft. Well didn't the
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first pick in the draft that was like nine points
the game? Right? What are we what are we talking about?
What are we talking about the guy that Atlanta drafted.
I can't pronounce his.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Name, Zachary Roshe. Yeah, yeah, what are you ever?
Speaker 9 (29:30):
Nine ten points a game? I mean, the thing is,
but the thing is, we don't know what guys are
going to become because we don't understand and know guys
work ethics in the motor that they have.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Let heads ahead, Briannie actually out scored him. Where was
that at Rabji when they played two years ago?
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah? Yeah, let me ask you this quickly, and well,
go ahead, go ahead, you can go ahead, Sean.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Let me ask you this because you you want to
you want a world championship, because you were a better
fit in San Antonio than you were in Vancouver who
drafted you. Shout out to Vancouver Grizzlies back in the day.
By the way, how does Bronnie fit match up with
the Lakers current roster?
Speaker 9 (30:14):
He doesn't. Right now, he doesn't. I mean, that's being honest. Now,
I think what Bronnie will do, he'll be on the
roster and he'll be a part of their G League team.
Like Riz Paul saying, I don't want Bronnie to sign
a two way contract. What Ris Paul did not say.
He didn't say that Bronnie couldn't plan the G League.
He just said I don't want him signing a two
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way deal, you know, so Bronnie can steal and Esens
go down and play the G League, which I'm sure
he will because the thing that Rich Paul or lebron
James that they don't want to do. They don't want
to stun his growth, and a part of growing is
taking that same route going to the G League, getting
some reps. What the G League season starts after the
NBA season does, So when the season does start, Bronnie
(30:58):
will be on the LA Lakers roster. But I'm not
expecting Bronnie to be a rotating guy. I'm not expecting
Bronnie to be a guy that's out there ten to
fifteen minutes. I'm not expecting him to get any playing
time unless it's a blowout.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Antonio uh In In about two minutes of your answer,
what'd you make? I mean three the top two players
were from France. It's three of the top six were
from France. Obviously a lot of international players taking not
a lot of like college players, at least at the
top of the draft.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Even if you know you have some G League guys.
Speaker 9 (31:32):
What riek of that?
Speaker 1 (31:33):
And what do you make of it going forward? I
mean we've kind of seen it coming, but what are.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Your thoughts on it?
Speaker 9 (31:39):
For sure? Well, obviously the game has become international. You know,
you look at the past what five or six MVPs?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Right, you know none of.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
Them are are American more. I'll tell you what I
find interesting though. What I find so incredibly interesting is
how four year guys and even three there guys are
looked at in the NBA draft like that really really
attractive fifty year old lady in the club. It's like,
oh my god, you know what, Like you really look good,
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but you're here for a reason, so something has to
be wrong with you. But if a guy is twenty
two years old, like if I told you now that
Anthony Edwards was a finished product, wouldn't you tell me
I'm crazy?
Speaker 5 (32:22):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yes, right?
Speaker 9 (32:24):
So why do we think that guys when they come
out of college at twenty two years old or finished product?
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Well, I would say this, I do think that a
lot of these guys and you can just look at
the Knicks with the Villanova guys that stayed three and
four years like a lot of times those guys come
in more ready to contribute, more mature, even if they're
not as talented. Right, But I do think, I do think,
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and I want your thoughts on this before you go.
I think Antonio the reason people look negatively at a
guy like Dalton Cannett, right, who went such has a
great pick for the Lakers. But I think, and don't you,
I do think it's a little fair. You have to
balance it. But to say, okay, he's twenty three playing
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against younger players. The guys his age that are really
good are in the NBA already, so he is playing
against a lesser you know, competition, I think that's fair.
I think it has to be balanced. But I do
think there's some fairness there.
Speaker 9 (33:27):
And you know, for me, I just don't. I don't.
They're caving guys out right. When you look at guys
that I look at a Jose Alvarado, I look at
a a Naji Marshall, I look at Trey Murphy, I
look at Desmond Bane. All these guys, Kyle Kuzma, all
these guys came in rotation ready, you know what I mean.
And it's because they went to school for three or
(33:49):
four years, Like I don't. I struggle with that. I
struggle with that because a lot of times guys are
being drafted, Like like, Sean, you said I was a
better fit in san Antonio then I was in Vancouver.
When I would say is I felt like san Antonio
believed in me more than Vancouver did, right. You know,
It's like Vancouver almost had a microwave thought process, even
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though it was their third year in existence. San Antonio
was like, Okay, we're gonna sit back, We're gonna let
this simmer and let's see what you can become here,
you know. And I felt like a lot of times,
these guys that are drafting at eighteen and nineteen years old,
that are one to two years removed from prom are
not ready to be the face of an organization.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
But that's that's certainly the truth.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
That's our man, Antonio Daniels, grace of as always, brother,
Thank you.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
For sure, appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah you brought it up, Sean. We're gonna get into
it next.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Does this impact Lebron's legacy positively. I got a text
from a friend saying, this is a little notch on
Lebron's goat argument.
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Speaker 1 (35:12):
All right, it's the odd couple Chris Brusard and Sean
King in for Rob Parker Love from the Tie right
dot com studios. You brought up, Sean, so do you
actually feel like Bronie like you brought up? This enhances
Lebron's legacy having you know, his son play on the
team with him, first time in NBA history. I would
(35:34):
agree with Antonio. Off the court, I mean, Lebron's got
a tremendous legacy off the court, a great family man,
and you know, it's a great example. I love that
with his kids, obviously what he's done as far as
speaking out on injustices, but also building the school and
his you know, helping his high school friends grow.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Into business moguls.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
So he's done a tremendous amount of stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Off of the court, and I think this is just
adds to his legacy of just being a great man.
But I don't think this plays any role whatsoever. And
I'm not just saying that because I think Jordan's the goat.
I just don't see how in the world this has
any impact on the goat discussion as we have it,
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who's the best basketball player?
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Well again, once you finished playing in a lot of ways,
like your legacy not necessarily completely crisp, but in some
ways impacted by if you would like or disliked. All
I'm saying is Bronnie James now being in LA Listen,
they added a great offensive component in Dalton connect They're
not that far away from, in my opinion, being a
(36:49):
little more competitive in the Western Conference. If potentially the
Lakers with bron and Bronni make it to a Western
Conference championship in the next two years and Brini participates
it all even doesn't just those visuals confetti coming from
the rafters, Brian hugging his son, like.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
Those confetti coming from the rafters for just getting Hey,
I'm just saying in l A'm just that are gonna
last forever. So what are you saying if they get
to the if they get to the Western Conference finals, yes,
in the next two years, that enhances the Bron's legacy.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
He was in the Western Conference finals two years ago.
One year ago. That's a long time ago. One year ago,
you know.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
But they've been in a playing game of two years
after that, so that.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That they were in the play they went from the
play in to the Western or were they in a
c they went, but they got to the Western Conference finals,
rob what I think they were in the play in
last year but still got to the Western Conference finals.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
All I'm saying isn't this and I don't want to
over emphasise this, but I think this does inject some
potential energy into the end of Lebron's career that doesn't
necessarily just revolve around can he win another championship?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Well, I will get Like I said, I do think
it enhances his legacy as a man, as a great father.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
What was that?
Speaker 5 (38:18):
This the first ever, right first ever.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
In the NBA.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
We saw Ken Griffy and King Griffy Junior in baseball,
but this is a first And look, all you gotta
do is do to math like if Lebron wasn't superhuman
in terms of playing twenty two years, he wouldn't have
played with Bronnie, you know what I'm saying, Like that's
that's the thing. Is he is he entered the league
young and then has played so long. So that's that's
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why we've never seen it, because just age wise, it's
almost impossible in many cases. But I, like I said,
I think it's it is phenomenal, but I don't think
it is or plays a role in the goat debate.
Speaker 5 (39:04):
And for the record, I'm MJ number one without argument period.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
So you have Lebron number two.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
So here's where I kind of plead the fifth. I'm
forty seven. Most men over fifty five that I know
all say Kareem Abdul Jabbar I wasn't old enough actually
witnesses playing. So I mean somewhere somewhere with Kareem Kobe
Broun's in that mixture for second, third or fourth. Wow.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Okay, all right, well we got two hours to get
into it. Sean King survived the first sixty minutes. You're looking,
all right, you a little woozy. You know, I got
you in the temple a little bit in there. Go
get some smelling salts and come back for the next hour.
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