Chris and Rob debate whether or not Draymond Green's assertion that nobody has ever beaten a 'whole' Golden State team is enough to make basketball fans around the country root against the Warriors, discuss the carrying pandemic that has hit the NBA, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob's nightly bets. Plus, And 1 streetball legend Tim 'Headache' Gittens swings by to discuss what made the mixtape tour so popular, why professional players enjoyed playing streetball with them, and much more!
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uh and some baseball of course. Like we got a
great show for you. So um, let me welcome in
my partner and then we'll get things kicked off. What's up, man?
(01:28):
How are you? I'm doing great? What's going on? Mister
Chris Bissard? How are you. I'm good and you look
great with that Fox Sports radio background. Envious. I'm up,
I'm here in my home studio. Don't pass just trying
to passify me, make me feel good and it ain't
gonna work. But it looks good. And hey, I mean
(01:51):
there's something to being in the studio. Man, there's something
to be said for being in the studio. I'm glad
you're happy, so you can go into New York. Why
don't you go into the studio. They're on Canal Street. Fortunate? No,
it's not unfortunate. You could, you could do it. Yes,
it's I Heart radio studio. Yes, why don't you drive
to Would you like to drive? Would you like to
(02:13):
Canal Street every day? Yo? That would be That would
be terrible. I ain't gonna lie with the traffic. No,
I no traffic. Oh man, what do you think? This
is LA traffic? So don't be trying to sauce soaked
me telling me I look good. Yeah? No, but you
do you do whatever? Now you knew you knew I
couldn't be being honest about that, hunt. No, I knew that.
(02:35):
It's all good. Hey, I'm shedding my my headphones. I
haven't worn and forever shedding my microphone cover. Look at this, Chris,
can you see? Oh wow, wait what is that yours? No,
I just I'm trying to find I need to they
need to get you. This one is not good. We
are then we are on YouTube. No, no, that's not
I know. I'm trying to fix that. If they want
(02:58):
you in there, fix that is at least look halfway decent?
All right? Yes, okay, Look, we got DJ Alex tishon
on the ones and twos on a worship. We see
what he looks like. I haven't seen him in forever,
and he's got the guns out and he's got on
his tank top and hot pants wear speedos. No you know,
I mean he does have one. You got pants on?
(03:20):
I mean, I mean you can't see him, but maybe
you wear them under but don't last time I song,
I mean he was sitting in a tree, kind of
laying out in the tree with speedos. And you know what.
It's on Instagram, Chris. If he had, if it was
any more material, he'd have a bikini on that. We
got super producer ribbed Gee in the house and on
(03:44):
the updates. Mincy I met for the first time. Now
I met him for the first time. Oh, that's that's right.
So that's the one positive about being here today. I'm
not the man I love to see Alex. Don't take
that goodness so chaking like that. No lead, you can't
clean that up. No, but I'm not clean. I had
(04:06):
never met her, Saul was the first time. But you
hadn't seen Alex in Wood over a year, Alex. I
dropped your Christmas present off. I saw you. I don't
want to see you six month, right, Alex. You know Alex,
he wants to see you. All right. You wanted to
shake your hand, give you a hug like Thissen. All right, Hey,
we got a great guest. At the bottom of the hour,
(04:29):
Rob and I talked about we were featured in the
n NBA at seventy five documentary that ran on ESPN yesterday.
Good job I had it on while we were doing
the show. I didn't hear it, so I got to
watch it with the volume up, obviously. But after that
they ran a documentary called the Greatest Mixtape Ever. I
(04:51):
think that's what it was, something to that effect, if
not exactly that. And it was about the and one
mixtape Craze, which was huge, huge uh in the what
late nineties, early two thousands, And we're gonna have a
guest from the and one mixtape tour, Tim Headache getting
known as Headache on the tour, and so he's gonna
(05:15):
join us. He was featured in the documentary, so that'll
be a lot of fun. But before we go get
to Headache, we gotta talk about the NBA Finals, which finally,
mercifully will begin tomorrow. It's been a lot, you know,
a long little gap, and it's good for the players.
Get him rested up, but we'll be glad to see
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NBA basketball starting tomorrow again. And Draymond Green, Rob, it
seems like every day Draymond's given us something to chatter
about and should have the nickname Headache because it's every day.
My god, wow wow. All right, But anyway, he talked
to our friend Mark Spears from Ndscape Ndscape and I mean,
(06:00):
and here's what Draymond said. Rob g read to us
his quote, right, So Mark Spears asked him why he
still was confident that the Warriors would be able to
take another finals run, even after missing the playoffs the
last two seasons. Here's what Draymond said, quote Because nobody
had beaten us. No one has ever beaten us whole.
(06:21):
Ever has not happened yet. In twenty sixteen. I got
spend it from a game in twenty nineteen, Kevin Durant
goes down. But when you follow that over to Cleveland,
no one has ever beat us whole. I don't even
know what that means. Did he miss the last three
games in the series of one game? He missed one game?
All right? They were three to one. He missed one game.
(06:42):
They will whole for game six and seven. I mean,
come along, man, I think it's that's a whole, legitimate season.
I don't. I don't think it at all. Draymond Green
has flake two flagrant five points. If he gets another
flagrant foul too, he's out. If he misses a game
(07:03):
in this series, that could be it, Chris, But I
mean that important. If teams are closely matched, and obviously
that Cleveland team, that Warrior's team was closely matched. Two
you had great superstars on both teams head the final
score of Game seven was what three points four point difference?
(07:24):
They were closely matched, So taking away one of the
best players for one game, that's legit. I don't buy
it when you have six and seven and you lose
game seven at home. I'm just not buying they can
dress it up like you know, put lipstick and earrings
on a pig. It was a choke job. He was there.
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They didn't lose Chris three games in a row all year.
They lost three games in a row, including two of
the three in the Oakland. I mean, you can't use
that as that we never got beat whole. I'm not
buying that Kyrie and Lebron beat them. It was three
two and they had there for the whole series. One
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game is not the series. One game is not the
serious The literal definition is we never got beat while
we were whole. I don't beat that they got beat
the last two games whole. Draymond Green was not there
for the whole. I'm not buying that. You cannot buy
it all you one, but it is true and their
first championship there was a guard, the star player missing
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on every team and that series absolutely so let's not
count that because those teams weren't holding. Nobody saying, nobody
saying that the Cleveland Championship doesn't count. You have let me,
I'm ready to go ahead. Let Lebron can't. Lebron and
Kyrie can't say nobody beat us while we were whole,
because they did get beat while they were whole by
the war years later on. And but it's true that
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they can say that. And by the way, I think
Lebron and a d can say that. Now. Some people
might laugh at that, but they've been banged up when
they've lost as well. The one difference, of course, is
that Lebron is obviously much older, and so he's not
at the peak of his powers still like Draymond still
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in his prime. He's only thirty two, Clays only thirty two,
and Staff's thirty four. Still smack dab in his prime.
So but yeah, I think it is fair. Doesn't mean
they're gonna keep winning. But if that's what got them thinking,
you know that they could still win it, then I
think that's legitimate. But you had other eafs, other issues,
(09:37):
other beefs with with Draymond. Hello, is your favorite person?
Is this on? Is this on? Hey? Let me say this,
NBA America, Draymond Green has given you another reason to
hate the Warriors and to go against the Golden State Warriors. Unite.
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NBA America we want to see them go down in flames.
It would be great for four games sweep. Yeah, I'm
talking about NBA America, so that we don't have to
hear Draymond Green again and all of his poppy cock
and his boulder dash and all the other nonsense. It
would be the greatest thing in NBA America if the
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Warriors went down and we could push it in Draymond's
face and say keep your pie hole shot. The Boston
Celtics beat your hole. Now, what's your excuse? Well, I'm
then when we didn't out giving you in well, we
know it. Listen the first time we know it. We
were playing in San Francisco, we weren't playing in Oakland.
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What will be the excuse? Stop it, Draymond? Just play basketball?
Stop auditioning? What enough? Already? I get you here, Charles Barkley,
I don't want to hear you. Can you play every day?
I get a headache here and Dremond Green? Are you
(11:08):
with me? NBA America. Wouldn't it be great to root
against the Warriors and see them go down in flames.
It would be a great ending to everything, and we
could move on in the NBA and stop with this
glorification of the Warriors. You mean the team that choked
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down a three to one lead in the NBA Finals
for the first time in NBA history. Enough already with this.
I stand up, I salute you gods. I'm standing up.
Join this bandwagon of anti Golden State Warriors, anti up,
(11:53):
anti anti Dremond Green, Rob Parker, two words for you.
Stop it, give me some real give me a beat
playing that in there. I'm gonna show you what time
it is. I never thought i'd see the day. I
(12:13):
never thought I would see this. But Rob Parker has
told Draymond Green to shut up and dripple. Wow. Unbelievable,
Rob Parker. Draymond Green didn't make an excuse. Draymond Green
told Mark Spears why he believed that the Warriors could
(12:36):
still win a championship. That's it. He didn't disparage the Calves.
He said, nobody beat us while we were a whole,
and that is factually correct. You've taken it to another
place and now you're trying to project your feelings onto
(12:57):
NBA America style bid. NBA America ain't rocking with that.
They are they want to see the Warriors go down
Draymond say bopping that they ran more double teams than
Steph Curry than Kevin Durant. He's right. If you can't
(13:18):
him to the truth, then don't ask the brother the questions.
I mean, what wasn't What else did he say that
you didn't like Rob He defended athletes doing interviews. That's fine.
He could do whatever he wants and I could go
against me. He can, yes, he can't want him to
shut up and Trimble No, I'm just I'm tired of
hearing him every day. Enough, okay and talk. They put
(13:42):
in the microphone in his vein. You could say no comments,
Roy Band, yeah, that we won his media. Draymond Green
just saying no comment. This is green. They were hold
should have pushed back and said, you don't played in
game six and seven. You guys were the biggest choke
in the history of the NBA in the finals. That's
(14:03):
what I would have said, if I say you were
playing games. That's my point. He played in six of
the seven games, staff out all seven, and it don't
make that's not the deafen him that them missing his
six points would have meant that they would have won
Game five. First of all, that there you go. That
that just ends it. We get into it right there
(14:26):
when you put little Draymond Green's ability to six points
the game, that clearly don't know what you're talking about,
because that dude is valuable now by the way, and
think in game seven he scored thirty two. But anyway, uh, yeah,
you do. You just ended the discussion when you just
acted like he's not a valuable player eight seventy seven
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ninety nine. On Fix eight seven seven, nine nine, six
sixty three sixty nine, Rob Parker thinks NBA America is
with him, anti Draymond, anti war yours. I'm calling Poppycock, hogwash,
bolger dash. Are you with me? Eight seven seven nine
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Anti Draymond and Warriors? Are you with me? Draymond can
speak say what he wants. I'm down. All right, let's
kick it off with Mark and Memphis. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What up Mark? Yeah, guys,
I'm one hundred percent with Rob Parker anti Warriors. So
you've got Draymond Greene saying they weren't whole. You weren't
(16:58):
whole because you got injured. You're a dirty player that
can't control themselves. You're busy punching people and kicking people
in the nuts. That has nothing to do with an
injury or anything like that. And then you've got Steve Kerr,
who thinks he's the wisest coach. He's the coach k
and coach statement of the NBA. He's sitting there talking
about Dylan Brooks breaking the player's code and crossing the
(17:20):
line as he's given a slight wink to Draymond green
in the background, like, what do you They're the worst.
I hope they lose and I'm not for the Celtics.
I'm against the Warriors thing. There you go, my man.
But that's a good taste. Yes. Like my reason in
Max and George was just you're the eye couple Fox
Sports Radio. What up, Matt? Thanks Grady? What's up? Max? Guys? Hey,
(17:45):
I can't stand Draymond. Raymond should only give way. Max
agrees with Rock. Can you let God? Can you let
Maxis that? Hey, Chris? To me, Draymond should only be
given advice on how to be a triple thing one
hundred million dollar man. He's staff the Warriors choke three
(18:07):
games in the finals. It happened. He's more over hyphed.
The fact that he's considered an NBA tough guy is
a joke and should tell us where the NBA league
is at today? Is not a great play? My man? Thanks? Max,
appreciate you. Is he not a great player? Yeah, of
course he's. How about Nick? And you have to actually
answer some questions in South Carolina? You're on the odd
(18:28):
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What up? Nick? Good? Afternoon? Good?
Actually good evening? Guys, How are you guys go from? Hey, Hey,
I'm gonna actually I'm are you guys aren't really surprised
on this? Or Hey, Rob? Hello? Is the song? I
actually agree with you what I'm saying, Oh my god,
going to the night side. Chris's guy, Nick is on
(18:48):
my side. I gotta hear this, Nick, you are a
thousand percent correct. Look. Injuries are part of the game,
so We're really gonna sit here and say the Warriors
lost because of health issues, when first of all, it
was a draymar On fall, and then their big three
played over eighty percent of the series in twenty sixteen,
unlike Kyrie and Love who didn't even play anything in
twenty fifteen. So really, Draymond shouldn't be talking when they
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won a championship of the benefit of so many teams
not being whole. Exactly. No, Draymond wasn't sticking out his
chest saying we rule, nobody's touched this since we've been whole. No,
he was just saying, you know what, I looked at it,
and nobody beat us when we were whole, which is
(19:32):
a fact, and that's why I thought we could come
back and do it. That's all he was saying. Just
my logic. All right, Rob Parker's turned it in Love
completely different, and you guys have bought into it. Hook
line and sync. All right, We're gonna squeeze one more
in Trey in Atlanta. We'll give Chris a biscuits. I
bet Trey got something. Yeah, Trey, go ahead, give Chris
(19:53):
a biscuit since he got trounced in this Sun now
I can't do it with you. Thank you. Drop that
now with Chris. The Warriors are winning this championship. I'm
tired of you talking mess about the Warriors. So when
I'm gonna come back and call back when the Warriors win. Yeah,
when they lose, you better call you better, you better
call back. I'm keeping your number. You better call back.
(20:16):
When they get swept, you better called back, sweat. So
that's your pick, not food. I haven't put it out
there yet. Not you put it out there about three
four times. All right, we got a headache from the air.
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We're live from the Fox Wars Radio studios. Our next
(20:58):
guest Isn't and one mixtape street Ball Legend. You saw
him last night on the documentary The Greatest Mixtape Ever.
Good Friend of Mine, Brother of Mine and the King Movement.
My man Tim Headache getting his headache? What's up? Brother's happening?
How are you? What's going on? Is going on? Rob?
(21:20):
What's going on? Chris? My brother? How you doing? Ma?
I'm good, Yo. It was great to see you in
the documentary last night. Tell me what you thought of
the documentary and also you got a new book that
you're that's coming out as well, so tell us about
all that. Um yeah, I guess I start with the
documentary documentary. I think I think, um it just it
(21:43):
scratched the surface and I think it is a good
job of telling the beginning of what the process was
of becoming one of the greatest mixtapes ever be made,
and also changed the culture where we see it at
the day. You remember the Damna mixtape that we all
got to see an experience, changed the way everything was marketed,
from boards to urban to everything else, and it brought
it brought a little more into society where how our
(22:06):
world looked to them and it just wasn't really dope
by changing the landscape and that one and then my
book is I'm about my lifestyle where I came up
from going up in New York city. Um, where exactly
are you from? I'm a harm kid, all right, nice
sugar hell baby, sugar hell baby, no doubt. I'm from Jamaica, queen.
So that's why I wanted to know. Oh yeah, I
(22:27):
know we ran to the other before early early, my
my young days now whole. Yeah, And the book is
called A Little Player on My Name, But the book
is called Life is a Beautiful Headache. Um. It's my
(22:48):
walking through lifely journey to hopefully be inspirations a lot
of a lot of youth and a lot of kids
around the world. I went through a lot of different struggles,
and I probably went through a lot throughout the world.
So I wanted to share that and and give them
like my walk into noal Guard and everything in life
made no Amy that was hard, scarred and stuff like that.
Life is still beautiful in the way it maturates you
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into adult and allow you to be different. You know,
when you think of the N one and you know
all the players who came through there who would probably
be could you give me a list of like the
best players who who were involved in N one? UM,
talk myself. You know, you know, you know, you already know,
(23:30):
you already know I'm one. I'm one of the forefathers
up and so you know what I gotta say myself,
you know, and that. But like when you go through
the list of guys the first that started from UM
from a half Man Mazing to main Event to Shanel
Jim Machine to Maloya Masman future um Ao one of
(23:55):
to me probably think probably one of the quickest change
direction moves ever. But him and Jason kidd Um playing
at Henderson State. You got hot source. Then you go
down the list to like I'm sick with it, to um,
I'll be right back, UM High Team. There's a lot
of guys that came through that was really great athletes
and you know, good showmanships like that and representing fifty
(24:16):
from Atlanta. So we touched the market when we first
got started with seven guys god us so UM my
big brother and center UM Troy Escalate which everybody know
was Mark Jackson's um little brother who was a was
a great person. Then we lost Chicago got great Flash, Um,
we got a cancer, and then we lost one of
my say my childhood flame, um Ali Mole, which is
(24:39):
Tyrone Evans six or five point guard that can do everything.
Um so it was, it was it was a motive
guys that just came together, put it together. And then
we all know Skip who actually created the opportunity for
us to be able to do that with his with
them taking a tape from him and taking it to
him day one. So headache. Then now you played college
I don't know if you remember it was Division two
(24:59):
or Division in one, mid major, but you you weren't
real you could you could clarify that, but you were
a real ball player. And so how and you grew up?
I know you grew up playing on the playground, so
you know, between the legs, behind the back, things like that,
But how did you and others started incorporating more stuff
(25:22):
like the dancing, you know what I mean, and and
really taking street moves to a whole other level. Um,
I think like just like, yeah, I played bigtown basketball,
New York City. I player I was. I went to
the right so I'm one of the right high school
guys with the man center. Probably lost four games and
four year of high school basketball. UM played when actually
(25:44):
left her my name my senior year while I'm not
having a scholarship after being included about four hundred UM
schools and then while I'm going on went Sound State
with Big House games. Earl of Pearls set me down
there with UM and then just I left there because
the money wasn't right, you know, for me to be
an athlete and pay for school. I always thought about
book first. I wasn't going to do that in play,
so I want to, you know, transferred going to Jim
(26:04):
Cars New York City. F I graduated from them with
the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee, and that was that was
basically my stuff going there. But then thing about it
you said incorporated was the street ball always been there
been an element of it because of the Doctor Jay's
and Peevie Kurtlins. I got to grow up Uney, pe Kurtlins,
Joe Hammond, He's the guys I walked to every day
and see Chris and you know that we go to
(26:25):
Rucker Park. A lot of stuff that we took we
incorporated from what we learned the Rucker Park and how
they entertain and how they did it. And then a
lot was played like the hollom Witzess. We got to
see them and I played the Hall and Glow Trials.
So when you take it and you master your craft,
you're able to add things to it that nobody else
can do. This would make Kylerie so good because I
grew up an Kyrie dad, which is with Dedrick, and
(26:45):
watched Kyrie playing and stuff like that. So it allows
us to kind of incorporate it. Because anything you do
you take from somebody else. And like in yell Fields
and stuff like that, you know, when you said somebody
do something great, you don't go, oh, he great, I
should hate on him. You go, oh, that's dope. How
can I incorporate and make it different to fit me?
And that's where I think I think all of us did.
And then the best part about it everybody had their
(27:06):
own flavor, clad from different places. Like the first couple
of guys all from New York and New Jersey, but
we all know who's from New York and York from
New York and New Jersey. Is that everybody is different
each borough. Queens is different from Brooklyn, Brooklyn different from Queens.
Man had different bronx where everybody had their own swag.
And if you're true New Yorker, I can tell if
you're from Queens of Brooklyn by the way you talk
(27:27):
about a dress. And then being from different states allowed
to do that and be different. Yeah, New York is
a place like that. People think, you know, it's all
the same and it's so big, and you know this.
You could walk Chris uh in New York for two
days and not running to anybody that you know, you
(27:47):
know what I mean, Like like if you're not in
your neighborhood, if you're just walking the street, you could
run for days and not running to anybody. That's how
many people there are on different stuff. So let me
ask you that the end one uh you know merchant
dising that came along with it, you know, the shorts
and all the other stuff, But the sneakers never hit.
Why didn't the sneakers hit like that? I always thought
(28:09):
like they could have had some signature sneakers. You agree
with me on that, because the merchandise was good. One
of the things that I always told them is I'm
gonna say this way. They didn't listen, like the owners
didn't listen because a lot of times we kind of
took part and a lots of they put out that
was hot. And I remember when they first started doing
the shoe and they did the tai chi and they
(28:30):
did they one mixtape shoot, which I didn't. I hate
it because they did it. They went a cheap route
with it, right. I told him when when when we
first got started, I said, hey, look, it's because my
degree isn't market in minor accounting. So I told him,
I said, hey, why don't you do a mixtape shoe
for the start with the New York guys and Jersey
guy and make it that Burrow shoe, but make it
dope and it'll saddle because everybody buys that stuff already.
(28:52):
Right now, we're gonna We're gonna just one shoe, the
shoe like that and it's due. I said, noah, it's
not gonna work like that because everybody had their own
fan base because see I had, I had all the
other stuff to shorts and all that, and I love
that stuff. The shoes were hot for a minute, right
because y'all got a lot of NBA players to win.
But they didn't stick. They didn't stick, Like I'm the
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one thing I can tell you this, and we know
about this. I remember I was. I was always training
with big says Teresa Westpoo and all them, and I
had all a lot of the young ladies around me.
To me catching on them. I said, look, we gotta
continue to push the shoe, but let's push it to
the female mark because unfortunately, I'll tell people all the time,
guys don't buy sneakers. You know women boy sneakers. We
have you athletes get free playing to them and you
(29:37):
or somebody buying for you. You're talking, you know whatever,
that's real. Hey, hey, let me ask you this. When
we got about a minute and a half of this answer,
I want to hear this. How what was the response
from NBA guys when you guys were playing, because y'all
were still in a lot of you know, thunder them them,
(30:00):
I mean for good I don't know, eight years stretch
or something. Y'all were hot and a lot of you know,
fans were like, yo, these dudes should be in the league.
What you know, like they really were lifting y'all stature.
What was the response from NBA players to you guys?
I give you three quick ones. Chrystals was hilarious to me,
(30:20):
So everybody loved us because you know, we was in
an era of ivison. Bubble Chuck was one of my
one of my good dudes. I got to play against
something a you know, all that. But the funny part
was when I went to Knicks camp and tried out No,
I played against Travel. Reason was, you know, bro, I
play again when you sail And he was like, he
goted me four caught when I was in camp and
he was like this, hey, don't do nothing on me crazy.
(30:43):
And I looked at the thing and said, you got
a deal, so you might want to back up. You know,
he'd always pick up ninety four feet right, I want
to do that. But they've understood. They understood that, and
then you know that to me, that was the company
of it. Then I went to a game back in
the day. Guard was so Cliff Robinson. I wanted to
Troit pithon game the seas and selling them play and
we went back. We went back in the back and
(31:05):
clips look, Robinson saw me and he was like, yo,
you know I grew up watching playing with Portland and
all that stuff. He's like, man, I love you, man,
I love what y'all due. Just went crazy And to
me it was like and all the players camera, I said,
what's up? And it was like it was dope, even
though I know I wanted to be there, but this
is how them talk about us like that because they
come from us. Everybody learned the same way in the parks,
and that generates some error. Wasn't old trainers. You go
(31:27):
to park, lose and win. How you became better? But
that was the that to me, that was the thing.
You know. But every I think every sport when it
is a professional, they always have their nose and year.
But in that era of the nineties to that part,
they accepted and they want to see it be successful.
But like anything, you have to go and take it.
And I don't think no no athletes is gonna give
it to you. That's our man, headache. Tim Getting's great stuff,
(31:51):
brothers st Ball legends. It'll be out. Where's your book
when you think it'll be out? Um, hopefully in the
ont June, in the middle of July, hopefully life. Yes,
congrat we'll get you on again down the road. Man.
And you coaching in the w NBA, now right, Um
(32:12):
this year I didn't go back, but um, I was
coaching last year in Dallas wings. Um. That's play developer. Okay, cool.
I've never missed the w NBA. But that's another story.
All right. You got to be careful with Rod. I
should have warned you, Hey Roy, Rob, Hey Rob that
(32:35):
check on the spitball and say you did it. That's right, exactly,
exactly exactly. All right, brother peace man, all right, thank
you more. I Couple coming your way. Shekel City is
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It's time for Sheckel City. Welcome to Sheckel City, the
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(34:00):
Shekel City not yet sponsored by Caesar Sports Book, but
we're working on it. Last night two and one, almost
three and oh, the one game I had where I
was going for under ten, the score was exactly ten nothing,
So that knocked me out of a three and old night.
But two and one tonight, best bet Marlins at the
(34:21):
Rockies run total under ten. They played a game Chris earlier.
This is the second game of a doubleheader, and there
was like fifteen or fourteen or fifteen runs scored in
game one, so I feel good about that under ten
total runs. Yankees hosting the Angels. It's in the rain
delay having started yet I have the run total of
(34:45):
under eight, and the Mariners are in Baltimore against the
Orioles and the run total, I'm sorry, Yankees Angels over
eight and the Mariners Orioles run total under eight and
a half. There you go. Remember, I'm not telling you
who to vote on. I'm telling you who I vote
on who. I'm not telling you who to bet on.
(35:07):
I'm telling you, I think you getting confused. No, it's
primary day. That's what got me mixed up in California. Okay, okay, yeah,
all right, Well look we just had a street ball
legend headache on and Rob, were you into the mixtapes?
How'd you view it? No? I watched it from afar,
(35:30):
you know what I mean, And I thought some of
it was unbelievable. And I used to look at those
guys and I couldn't believe. But I thought of them
more of like the gold Trotters, not NBA, right, you
know what I mean. No disrespect, but that's what I
thought of them. No, it's not disrespectful. And I agree,
Like I wasn't really that into it at first, and
(35:51):
then I started getting for some reason, I was getting
like free tapes, right, people were sending them to me
or just you know, some of the works of the business,
and I was getting free tapes and I started watching them,
and obviously I was hearing a lot about them, and
they were great, like you said, very entertaining. They had
hip hop music with um and the moves, to your point,
(36:14):
were incredible, and it was interesting watching the documentary last night, Rob,
how they said The demise was kind of because it
almost became too commercialized, you know what I mean. And
that's always happened. Something is like unique and and pretty cool,
and then once the executives get their hands right, then
(36:35):
it's not. Then it's not like hip Oh nah, this
is like this isn't what it was. The park used
to be this right of doing that. They got banners everywhere,
they're stopping for commercials, they're taping you know what I mean,
like do that move over? Right? But we didn't get
that right right? Nah, it's true, and um, but I
agree with you. I thought of it. I honestly thought
(36:57):
of it like a hip hop version of the Globetrotters.
That's exactly what it was really, and I actually robbed
at times. I thought I actually put a little bit
of thought into maybe trying to start like a league
like that. But you know, you would get points for
moves or something. I don't know. It was hard to
come up with stuff, but it probably wouldn't have worked
because how it's hard to do that. But all right,
(37:18):
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(01:28):
How are you? I'm doing great? What's going on? Mister
Chris Bissard? How are you. I'm good and you look
great with that Fox Sports radio background. Envious. I'm up,
I'm here in my home studio. Don't pass just trying
to passify me, make me feel good and it ain't
gonna work. But it looks good. And hey, I mean
(01:51):
there's something to being in the studio. Man, there's something
to be said for being in the studio. I'm glad
you're happy, so you can go into New York. Why
don't you go into the studio. They're on Canal Street. Fortunate? No,
it's not unfortunate. You could, you could do it. Yes,
it's I Heart radio studio. Yes, why don't you drive
to Would you like to drive? Would you like to
(02:13):
Canal Street every day? Yo? That would be That would
be terrible. I ain't gonna lie with the traffic. No,
I no traffic. Oh man, what do you think? This
is LA traffic? So don't be trying to sauce soaked
me telling me I look good. Yeah? No, but you
do you do whatever? Now you knew you knew I
couldn't be being honest about that, hunt. No, I knew that.
(02:35):
It's all good. Hey, I'm shedding my my headphones. I
haven't worn and forever shedding my microphone cover. Look at this, Chris,
can you see? Oh wow, wait what is that yours? No,
I just I'm trying to find I need to they
need to get you. This one is not good. We
are then we are on YouTube. No, no, that's not
I know. I'm trying to fix that. If they want
(02:58):
you in there, fix that is at least look halfway decent?
All right? Yes, okay, Look, we got DJ Alex tishon
on the ones and twos on a worship. We see
what he looks like. I haven't seen him in forever,
and he's got the guns out and he's got on
his tank top and hot pants wear speedos. No you know,
I mean he does have one. You got pants on?
(03:20):
I mean, I mean you can't see him, but maybe
you wear them under but don't last time I song,
I mean he was sitting in a tree, kind of
laying out in the tree with speedos. And you know what.
It's on Instagram, Chris. If he had, if it was
any more material, he'd have a bikini on that. We
got super producer ribbed Gee in the house and on
(03:44):
the updates. Mincy I met for the first time. Now
I met him for the first time. Oh, that's that's right.
So that's the one positive about being here today. I'm
not the man I love to see Alex. Don't take
that goodness so chaking like that. No lead, you can't
clean that up. No, but I'm not clean. I had
(04:06):
never met her, Saul was the first time. But you
hadn't seen Alex in Wood over a year, Alex. I
dropped your Christmas present off. I saw you. I don't
want to see you six month, right, Alex. You know Alex,
he wants to see you. All right. You wanted to
shake your hand, give you a hug like Thissen. All right, Hey,
we got a great guest. At the bottom of the hour,
(04:29):
Rob and I talked about we were featured in the
n NBA at seventy five documentary that ran on ESPN yesterday.
Good job I had it on while we were doing
the show. I didn't hear it, so I got to
watch it with the volume up, obviously. But after that
they ran a documentary called the Greatest Mixtape Ever. I
(04:51):
think that's what it was, something to that effect, if
not exactly that. And it was about the and one
mixtape Craze, which was huge, huge uh in the what
late nineties, early two thousands, And we're gonna have a
guest from the and one mixtape tour, Tim Headache getting
known as Headache on the tour, and so he's gonna
(05:15):
join us. He was featured in the documentary, so that'll
be a lot of fun. But before we go get
to Headache, we gotta talk about the NBA Finals, which finally,
mercifully will begin tomorrow. It's been a lot, you know,
a long little gap, and it's good for the players.
Get him rested up, but we'll be glad to see
(05:37):
NBA basketball starting tomorrow again. And Draymond Green, Rob, it
seems like every day Draymond's given us something to chatter
about and should have the nickname Headache because it's every day.
My god, wow wow. All right, But anyway, he talked
to our friend Mark Spears from Ndscape Ndscape and I mean,
(06:00):
and here's what Draymond said. Rob g read to us
his quote, right, So Mark Spears asked him why he
still was confident that the Warriors would be able to
take another finals run, even after missing the playoffs the
last two seasons. Here's what Draymond said, quote Because nobody
had beaten us. No one has ever beaten us whole.
(06:21):
Ever has not happened yet. In twenty sixteen. I got
spend it from a game in twenty nineteen, Kevin Durant
goes down. But when you follow that over to Cleveland,
no one has ever beat us whole. I don't even
know what that means. Did he miss the last three
games in the series of one game? He missed one game?
All right? They were three to one. He missed one game.
(06:42):
They will whole for game six and seven. I mean,
come along, man, I think it's that's a whole, legitimate season.
I don't. I don't think it at all. Draymond Green
has flake two flagrant five points. If he gets another
flagrant foul too, he's out. If he misses a game
(07:03):
in this series, that could be it, Chris, But I
mean that important. If teams are closely matched, and obviously
that Cleveland team, that Warrior's team was closely matched. Two
you had great superstars on both teams head the final
score of Game seven was what three points four point difference?
(07:24):
They were closely matched, So taking away one of the
best players for one game, that's legit. I don't buy
it when you have six and seven and you lose
game seven at home. I'm just not buying they can
dress it up like you know, put lipstick and earrings
on a pig. It was a choke job. He was there.
(07:45):
They didn't lose Chris three games in a row all year.
They lost three games in a row, including two of
the three in the Oakland. I mean, you can't use
that as that we never got beat whole. I'm not
buying that Kyrie and Lebron beat them. It was three
two and they had there for the whole series. One
(08:07):
game is not the series. One game is not the
serious The literal definition is we never got beat while
we were whole. I don't beat that they got beat
the last two games whole. Draymond Green was not there
for the whole. I'm not buying that. You cannot buy
it all you one, but it is true and their
first championship there was a guard, the star player missing
(08:29):
on every team and that series absolutely so let's not
count that because those teams weren't holding. Nobody saying, nobody
saying that the Cleveland Championship doesn't count. You have let me,
I'm ready to go ahead. Let Lebron can't. Lebron and
Kyrie can't say nobody beat us while we were whole,
because they did get beat while they were whole by
the war years later on. And but it's true that
(08:53):
they can say that. And by the way, I think
Lebron and a d can say that. Now. Some people
might laugh at that, but they've been banged up when
they've lost as well. The one difference, of course, is
that Lebron is obviously much older, and so he's not
at the peak of his powers still like Draymond still
(09:16):
in his prime. He's only thirty two, Clays only thirty two,
and Staff's thirty four. Still smack dab in his prime.
So but yeah, I think it is fair. Doesn't mean
they're gonna keep winning. But if that's what got them thinking,
you know that they could still win it, then I
think that's legitimate. But you had other eafs, other issues,
(09:37):
other beefs with with Draymond. Hello, is your favorite person?
Is this on? Is this on? Hey? Let me say this,
NBA America, Draymond Green has given you another reason to
hate the Warriors and to go against the Golden State Warriors. Unite.
(09:58):
NBA America we want to see them go down in flames.
It would be great for four games sweep. Yeah, I'm
talking about NBA America, so that we don't have to
hear Draymond Green again and all of his poppy cock
and his boulder dash and all the other nonsense. It
would be the greatest thing in NBA America if the
(10:21):
Warriors went down and we could push it in Draymond's
face and say keep your pie hole shot. The Boston
Celtics beat your hole. Now, what's your excuse? Well, I'm
then when we didn't out giving you in well, we
know it. Listen the first time we know it. We
were playing in San Francisco, we weren't playing in Oakland.
(10:44):
What will be the excuse? Stop it, Draymond? Just play basketball?
Stop auditioning? What enough? Already? I get you here, Charles Barkley,
I don't want to hear you. Can you play every day?
I get a headache here and Dremond Green? Are you
(11:08):
with me? NBA America. Wouldn't it be great to root
against the Warriors and see them go down in flames.
It would be a great ending to everything, and we
could move on in the NBA and stop with this
glorification of the Warriors. You mean the team that choked
(11:31):
down a three to one lead in the NBA Finals
for the first time in NBA history. Enough already with this.
I stand up, I salute you gods. I'm standing up.
Join this bandwagon of anti Golden State Warriors, anti up,
(11:53):
anti anti Dremond Green, Rob Parker, two words for you.
Stop it, give me some real give me a beat
playing that in there. I'm gonna show you what time
it is. I never thought i'd see the day. I
(12:13):
never thought I would see this. But Rob Parker has
told Draymond Green to shut up and dripple. Wow. Unbelievable,
Rob Parker. Draymond Green didn't make an excuse. Draymond Green
told Mark Spears why he believed that the Warriors could
(12:36):
still win a championship. That's it. He didn't disparage the Calves.
He said, nobody beat us while we were a whole,
and that is factually correct. You've taken it to another
place and now you're trying to project your feelings onto
(12:57):
NBA America style bid. NBA America ain't rocking with that.
They are they want to see the Warriors go down
Draymond say bopping that they ran more double teams than
Steph Curry than Kevin Durant. He's right. If you can't
(13:18):
him to the truth, then don't ask the brother the questions.
I mean, what wasn't What else did he say that
you didn't like Rob He defended athletes doing interviews. That's fine.
He could do whatever he wants and I could go
against me. He can, yes, he can't want him to
shut up and Trimble No, I'm just I'm tired of
hearing him every day. Enough, okay and talk. They put
(13:42):
in the microphone in his vein. You could say no comments,
Roy Band, yeah, that we won his media. Draymond Green
just saying no comment. This is green. They were hold
should have pushed back and said, you don't played in
game six and seven. You guys were the biggest choke
in the history of the NBA in the finals. That's
(14:03):
what I would have said, if I say you were
playing games. That's my point. He played in six of
the seven games, staff out all seven, and it don't
make that's not the deafen him that them missing his
six points would have meant that they would have won
Game five. First of all, that there you go. That
that just ends it. We get into it right there
(14:26):
when you put little Draymond Green's ability to six points
the game, that clearly don't know what you're talking about,
because that dude is valuable now by the way, and
think in game seven he scored thirty two. But anyway, uh, yeah,
you do. You just ended the discussion when you just
acted like he's not a valuable player eight seventy seven
(14:47):
ninety nine. On Fix eight seven seven, nine nine, six
sixty three sixty nine, Rob Parker thinks NBA America is
with him, anti Draymond, anti war yours. I'm calling Poppycock, hogwash,
bolger dash. Are you with me? Eight seven seven nine
(15:09):
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Anti Draymond and Warriors? Are you with me? Draymond can
speak say what he wants. I'm down. All right, let's
kick it off with Mark and Memphis. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What up Mark? Yeah, guys,
I'm one hundred percent with Rob Parker anti Warriors. So
you've got Draymond Greene saying they weren't whole. You weren't
(16:58):
whole because you got injured. You're a dirty player that
can't control themselves. You're busy punching people and kicking people
in the nuts. That has nothing to do with an
injury or anything like that. And then you've got Steve Kerr,
who thinks he's the wisest coach. He's the coach k
and coach statement of the NBA. He's sitting there talking
about Dylan Brooks breaking the player's code and crossing the
(17:20):
line as he's given a slight wink to Draymond green
in the background, like, what do you They're the worst.
I hope they lose and I'm not for the Celtics.
I'm against the Warriors thing. There you go, my man.
But that's a good taste. Yes. Like my reason in
Max and George was just you're the eye couple Fox
Sports Radio. What up, Matt? Thanks Grady? What's up? Max? Guys? Hey,
(17:45):
I can't stand Draymond. Raymond should only give way. Max
agrees with Rock. Can you let God? Can you let
Maxis that? Hey, Chris? To me, Draymond should only be
given advice on how to be a triple thing one
hundred million dollar man. He's staff the Warriors choke three
(18:07):
games in the finals. It happened. He's more over hyphed.
The fact that he's considered an NBA tough guy is
a joke and should tell us where the NBA league
is at today? Is not a great play? My man? Thanks? Max,
appreciate you. Is he not a great player? Yeah, of
course he's. How about Nick? And you have to actually
answer some questions in South Carolina? You're on the odd
(18:28):
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What up? Nick? Good? Afternoon? Good?
Actually good evening? Guys, How are you guys go from? Hey, Hey,
I'm gonna actually I'm are you guys aren't really surprised
on this? Or Hey, Rob? Hello? Is the song? I
actually agree with you what I'm saying, Oh my god,
going to the night side. Chris's guy, Nick is on
(18:48):
my side. I gotta hear this, Nick, you are a
thousand percent correct. Look. Injuries are part of the game,
so We're really gonna sit here and say the Warriors
lost because of health issues, when first of all, it
was a draymar On fall, and then their big three
played over eighty percent of the series in twenty sixteen,
unlike Kyrie and Love who didn't even play anything in
twenty fifteen. So really, Draymond shouldn't be talking when they
(19:10):
won a championship of the benefit of so many teams
not being whole. Exactly. No, Draymond wasn't sticking out his
chest saying we rule, nobody's touched this since we've been whole. No,
he was just saying, you know what, I looked at it,
and nobody beat us when we were whole, which is
(19:32):
a fact, and that's why I thought we could come
back and do it. That's all he was saying. Just
my logic. All right, Rob Parker's turned it in Love
completely different, and you guys have bought into it. Hook
line and sync. All right, We're gonna squeeze one more
in Trey in Atlanta. We'll give Chris a biscuits. I
bet Trey got something. Yeah, Trey, go ahead, give Chris
(19:53):
a biscuit since he got trounced in this Sun now
I can't do it with you. Thank you. Drop that
now with Chris. The Warriors are winning this championship. I'm
tired of you talking mess about the Warriors. So when
I'm gonna come back and call back when the Warriors win. Yeah,
when they lose, you better call you better, you better
call back. I'm keeping your number. You better call back.
(20:16):
When they get swept, you better called back, sweat. So
that's your pick, not food. I haven't put it out
there yet. Not you put it out there about three
four times. All right, we got a headache from the air.
We Dreymonds coming on in a moment. Why but first,
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of that. Don't don't be don't be getting soawful. Um,
We're live from the Fox Wars Radio studios. Our next
(20:58):
guest Isn't and one mixtape street Ball Legend. You saw
him last night on the documentary The Greatest Mixtape Ever.
Good Friend of Mine, Brother of Mine and the King Movement.
My man Tim Headache getting his headache? What's up? Brother's happening?
How are you? What's going on? Is going on? Rob?
(21:20):
What's going on? Chris? My brother? How you doing? Ma?
I'm good, Yo. It was great to see you in
the documentary last night. Tell me what you thought of
the documentary and also you got a new book that
you're that's coming out as well, so tell us about
all that. Um yeah, I guess I start with the
documentary documentary. I think I think, um it just it
(21:43):
scratched the surface and I think it is a good
job of telling the beginning of what the process was
of becoming one of the greatest mixtapes ever be made,
and also changed the culture where we see it at
the day. You remember the Damna mixtape that we all
got to see an experience, changed the way everything was marketed,
from boards to urban to everything else, and it brought
it brought a little more into society where how our
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world looked to them and it just wasn't really dope
by changing the landscape and that one and then my
book is I'm about my lifestyle where I came up
from going up in New York city. Um, where exactly
are you from? I'm a harm kid, all right, nice
sugar hell baby, sugar hell baby, no doubt. I'm from Jamaica, queen.
So that's why I wanted to know. Oh yeah, I
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know we ran to the other before early early, my
my young days now whole. Yeah, And the book is
called A Little Player on My Name, But the book
is called Life is a Beautiful Headache. Um. It's my
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walking through lifely journey to hopefully be inspirations a lot
of a lot of youth and a lot of kids
around the world. I went through a lot of different struggles,
and I probably went through a lot throughout the world.
So I wanted to share that and and give them
like my walk into noal Guard and everything in life
made no Amy that was hard, scarred and stuff like that.
Life is still beautiful in the way it maturates you
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into adult and allow you to be different. You know,
when you think of the N one and you know
all the players who came through there who would probably
be could you give me a list of like the
best players who who were involved in N one? UM,
talk myself. You know, you know, you know, you already know,
(23:30):
you already know I'm one. I'm one of the forefathers
up and so you know what I gotta say myself,
you know, and that. But like when you go through
the list of guys the first that started from UM
from a half Man Mazing to main Event to Shanel
Jim Machine to Maloya Masman future um Ao one of
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to me probably think probably one of the quickest change
direction moves ever. But him and Jason kidd Um playing
at Henderson State. You got hot source. Then you go
down the list to like I'm sick with it, to um,
I'll be right back, UM High Team. There's a lot
of guys that came through that was really great athletes
and you know, good showmanships like that and representing fifty
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from Atlanta. So we touched the market when we first
got started with seven guys god us so UM my
big brother and center UM Troy Escalate which everybody know
was Mark Jackson's um little brother who was a was
a great person. Then we lost Chicago got great Flash, Um,
we got a cancer, and then we lost one of
my say my childhood flame, um Ali Mole, which is
(24:39):
Tyrone Evans six or five point guard that can do everything.
Um so it was, it was it was a motive
guys that just came together, put it together. And then
we all know Skip who actually created the opportunity for
us to be able to do that with his with
them taking a tape from him and taking it to
him day one. So headache. Then now you played college
I don't know if you remember it was Division two
(24:59):
or Division in one, mid major, but you you weren't
real you could you could clarify that, but you were
a real ball player. And so how and you grew up?
I know you grew up playing on the playground, so
you know, between the legs, behind the back, things like that,
But how did you and others started incorporating more stuff
(25:22):
like the dancing, you know what I mean, and and
really taking street moves to a whole other level. Um,
I think like just like, yeah, I played bigtown basketball,
New York City. I player I was. I went to
the right so I'm one of the right high school
guys with the man center. Probably lost four games and
four year of high school basketball. UM played when actually
(25:44):
left her my name my senior year while I'm not
having a scholarship after being included about four hundred UM
schools and then while I'm going on went Sound State
with Big House games. Earl of Pearls set me down
there with UM and then just I left there because
the money wasn't right, you know, for me to be
an athlete and pay for school. I always thought about
book first. I wasn't going to do that in play,
so I want to, you know, transferred going to Jim
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Cars New York City. F I graduated from them with
the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee, and that was that was
basically my stuff going there. But then thing about it
you said incorporated was the street ball always been there
been an element of it because of the Doctor Jay's
and Peevie Kurtlins. I got to grow up Uney, pe Kurtlins,
Joe Hammond, He's the guys I walked to every day
and see Chris and you know that we go to
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Rucker Park. A lot of stuff that we took we
incorporated from what we learned the Rucker Park and how
they entertain and how they did it. And then a
lot was played like the hollom Witzess. We got to
see them and I played the Hall and Glow Trials.
So when you take it and you master your craft,
you're able to add things to it that nobody else
can do. This would make Kylerie so good because I
grew up an Kyrie dad, which is with Dedrick, and
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watched Kyrie playing and stuff like that. So it allows
us to kind of incorporate it. Because anything you do
you take from somebody else. And like in yell Fields
and stuff like that, you know, when you said somebody
do something great, you don't go, oh, he great, I
should hate on him. You go, oh, that's dope. How
can I incorporate and make it different to fit me?
And that's where I think I think all of us did.
And then the best part about it everybody had their
(27:06):
own flavor, clad from different places. Like the first couple
of guys all from New York and New Jersey, but
we all know who's from New York and York from
New York and New Jersey. Is that everybody is different
each borough. Queens is different from Brooklyn, Brooklyn different from Queens.
Man had different bronx where everybody had their own swag.
And if you're true New Yorker, I can tell if
you're from Queens of Brooklyn by the way you talk
(27:27):
about a dress. And then being from different states allowed
to do that and be different. Yeah, New York is
a place like that. People think, you know, it's all
the same and it's so big, and you know this.
You could walk Chris uh in New York for two
days and not running to anybody that you know, you
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know what I mean, Like like if you're not in
your neighborhood, if you're just walking the street, you could
run for days and not running to anybody. That's how
many people there are on different stuff. So let me
ask you that the end one uh you know merchant
dising that came along with it, you know, the shorts
and all the other stuff, But the sneakers never hit.
Why didn't the sneakers hit like that? I always thought
(28:09):
like they could have had some signature sneakers. You agree
with me on that, because the merchandise was good. One
of the things that I always told them is I'm
gonna say this way. They didn't listen, like the owners
didn't listen because a lot of times we kind of
took part and a lots of they put out that
was hot. And I remember when they first started doing
the shoe and they did the tai chi and they
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did they one mixtape shoot, which I didn't. I hate
it because they did it. They went a cheap route
with it, right. I told him when when when we
first got started, I said, hey, look, it's because my
degree isn't market in minor accounting. So I told him,
I said, hey, why don't you do a mixtape shoe
for the start with the New York guys and Jersey
guy and make it that Burrow shoe, but make it
dope and it'll saddle because everybody buys that stuff already.
(28:52):
Right now, we're gonna We're gonna just one shoe, the
shoe like that and it's due. I said, noah, it's
not gonna work like that because everybody had their own
fan base because see I had, I had all the
other stuff to shorts and all that, and I love
that stuff. The shoes were hot for a minute, right
because y'all got a lot of NBA players to win.
But they didn't stick. They didn't stick, Like I'm the
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one thing I can tell you this, and we know
about this. I remember I was. I was always training
with big says Teresa Westpoo and all them, and I
had all a lot of the young ladies around me.
To me catching on them. I said, look, we gotta
continue to push the shoe, but let's push it to
the female mark because unfortunately, I'll tell people all the time,
guys don't buy sneakers. You know women boy sneakers. We
have you athletes get free playing to them and you
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or somebody buying for you. You're talking, you know whatever,
that's real. Hey, hey, let me ask you this. When
we got about a minute and a half of this answer,
I want to hear this. How what was the response
from NBA guys when you guys were playing, because y'all
were still in a lot of you know, thunder them them,
(30:00):
I mean for good I don't know, eight years stretch
or something. Y'all were hot and a lot of you know,
fans were like, yo, these dudes should be in the league.
What you know, like they really were lifting y'all stature.
What was the response from NBA players to you guys?
I give you three quick ones. Chrystals was hilarious to me,
(30:20):
So everybody loved us because you know, we was in
an era of ivison. Bubble Chuck was one of my
one of my good dudes. I got to play against
something a you know, all that. But the funny part
was when I went to Knicks camp and tried out No,
I played against Travel. Reason was, you know, bro, I
play again when you sail And he was like, he
goted me four caught when I was in camp and
he was like this, hey, don't do nothing on me crazy.
(30:43):
And I looked at the thing and said, you got
a deal, so you might want to back up. You know,
he'd always pick up ninety four feet right, I want
to do that. But they've understood. They understood that, and
then you know that to me, that was the company
of it. Then I went to a game back in
the day. Guard was so Cliff Robinson. I wanted to
Troit pithon game the seas and selling them play and
we went back. We went back in the back and
(31:05):
clips look, Robinson saw me and he was like, yo,
you know I grew up watching playing with Portland and
all that stuff. He's like, man, I love you, man,
I love what y'all due. Just went crazy And to
me it was like and all the players camera, I said,
what's up? And it was like it was dope, even
though I know I wanted to be there, but this
is how them talk about us like that because they
come from us. Everybody learned the same way in the parks,
and that generates some error. Wasn't old trainers. You go
(31:27):
to park, lose and win. How you became better? But
that was the that to me, that was the thing.
You know. But every I think every sport when it
is a professional, they always have their nose and year.
But in that era of the nineties to that part,
they accepted and they want to see it be successful.
But like anything, you have to go and take it.
And I don't think no no athletes is gonna give
it to you. That's our man, headache. Tim Getting's great stuff,
(31:51):
brothers st Ball legends. It'll be out. Where's your book
when you think it'll be out? Um, hopefully in the
ont June, in the middle of July, hopefully life. Yes,
congrat we'll get you on again down the road. Man.
And you coaching in the w NBA, now right, Um
(32:12):
this year I didn't go back, but um, I was
coaching last year in Dallas wings. Um. That's play developer. Okay, cool.
I've never missed the w NBA. But that's another story.
All right. You got to be careful with Rod. I
should have warned you, Hey Roy, Rob, Hey Rob that
(32:35):
check on the spitball and say you did it. That's right, exactly,
exactly exactly. All right, brother peace man, all right, thank
you more. I Couple coming your way. Shekel City is
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It's time for Sheckel City. Welcome to Sheckel City, the
whole base for Rob Parkers Daley Dicks against the Spread.
(34:00):
Shekel City not yet sponsored by Caesar Sports Book, but
we're working on it. Last night two and one, almost
three and oh, the one game I had where I
was going for under ten, the score was exactly ten nothing,
So that knocked me out of a three and old night.
But two and one tonight, best bet Marlins at the
(34:21):
Rockies run total under ten. They played a game Chris earlier.
This is the second game of a doubleheader, and there
was like fifteen or fourteen or fifteen runs scored in
game one, so I feel good about that under ten
total runs. Yankees hosting the Angels. It's in the rain
delay having started yet I have the run total of
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under eight, and the Mariners are in Baltimore against the
Orioles and the run total, I'm sorry, Yankees Angels over
eight and the Mariners Orioles run total under eight and
a half. There you go. Remember, I'm not telling you
who to vote on. I'm telling you who I vote
on who. I'm not telling you who to bet on.
(35:07):
I'm telling you, I think you getting confused. No, it's
primary day. That's what got me mixed up in California. Okay, okay, yeah,
all right, Well look we just had a street ball
legend headache on and Rob, were you into the mixtapes?
How'd you view it? No? I watched it from afar,
(35:30):
you know what I mean, And I thought some of
it was unbelievable. And I used to look at those
guys and I couldn't believe. But I thought of them
more of like the gold Trotters, not NBA, right, you
know what I mean. No disrespect, but that's what I
thought of them. No, it's not disrespectful. And I agree,
Like I wasn't really that into it at first, and
(35:51):
then I started getting for some reason, I was getting
like free tapes, right, people were sending them to me
or just you know, some of the works of the business,
and I was getting free tapes and I started watching them,
and obviously I was hearing a lot about them, and
they were great, like you said, very entertaining. They had
hip hop music with um and the moves, to your point,
(36:14):
were incredible, and it was interesting watching the documentary last night, Rob,
how they said The demise was kind of because it
almost became too commercialized, you know what I mean. And
that's always happened. Something is like unique and and pretty cool,
and then once the executives get their hands right, then
(36:35):
it's not. Then it's not like hip Oh nah, this
is like this isn't what it was. The park used
to be this right of doing that. They got banners everywhere,
they're stopping for commercials, they're taping you know what I mean,
like do that move over? Right? But we didn't get
that right right? Nah, it's true, and um, but I
agree with you. I thought of it. I honestly thought
(36:57):
of it like a hip hop version of the Globetrotters.
That's exactly what it was really, and I actually robbed
at times. I thought I actually put a little bit
of thought into maybe trying to start like a league
like that. But you know, you would get points for
moves or something. I don't know. It was hard to
come up with stuff, but it probably wouldn't have worked
because how it's hard to do that. But all right,
(37:18):
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