January 20, 2021 • 39 mins
Chris and Rob share their thoughts on the debut performance from the new Brooklyn Nets Big 3 of Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant and James Harden, and the Odd Couple Crew debate if it's acceptable to wear sneakers to a formal event in this week's edition of Shop Talk. Plus, Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Fouts swings by to explain why he believes Philip Rivers will join him in Canton someday, and former NBA veteran Kendall Gill checks in to tell the guys who he really wants to set up a boxing match with YouTube star Jake Paul.
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You know does broadcasting. Always was good doing that. So
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ring and he's got some interesting takes on pugilism as
well as the NBA. Of course, he calls bulls games
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so he'll join us at the bottom of the hour.
All right, Rob, We we talked about it earlier. I
was excited to see the Nets play and the Big
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Three debut, I Rob. I haven't been this excited about
a debut for a trio since Miami twenty ten, when Lebron, James,
Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh played together. And I don't
know if you remember that game. I was there. It
was in Boston and it didn't good good, it didn't
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go well. They only scored with think about it, with
those three players and I know it was a different era,
but still they only scored eighty points. And it was
a lot of my turn, your turn, you know. And
that's what happens with superstars when they come together, because
sometimes they overdiffer, you know, and you want to you
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don't want to, you know, you want so and so
to get his and it I shoot it or give
it to him. You know, all that type of stuff
going on. So you know, it obviously took that team
a while to jail. And let me say this, Kyrie
ain't deferring, Kyrie is balling. Now here's the score, fifty one,
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forty nine Cleveland, all right, So several observations from this,
but let me give you some of the stats that
you can weigh in and then we can get in
the discussion. Kyrie Irving at halftime seventeen points. This is
first game back in two weeks. Seventeen points, eight of
ten shooting. So the brother is on fire, right. It
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ain't like he's forcing up. He's got eleven shots, I mean,
fifteen shots for seventeen points. It ain't like right nine nine,
he's he's scoring and one assists seventeen points. Kevin Durant
eleven points, six dimes, six assists, five rebounds, He's four
of nine, so he's only taking one fewer shots then Kyrie.
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James Harden two points and he just scored those. I
just saw him right before the half. He hit two
free throws. He got two points. He's only taking two shots.
So I want you to go ahead and weigh in
and uh, and then I'll bounce off that it's gonna
take some time for them to figure it out. We
already know there's no debate about the talent of these guys.
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And Kyrie han't played Chris in two weeks and he
looks fine to me, looks like he could play well.
I don't think that's the issue. It's about where his
head is and if he's gonna stick with the team
and be there the whole year. That's the only question.
As far as James Harden, it would be different. Maybe
I don't know. Maybe just he does have five rebounds,
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right and four assists, so he's in the mix, and
maybe he just didn't see shots he wanted. It ain't
easy to mix all three. Someone that's going to have
to take slight of a back seat, right, It's just
not enough for everybody Chris to score thirty points. It's
just not we'll see and that's not happen. Yeah, it's challenging,
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but talent wins out. There'll be times not maybe well
but when, but the most part, for the most part
in the Yeah, especially in the NBA. We we we've
seen you know this, We've seen great trios come together
and not when everybody thinks old Boston and I liked
the Nets. I'm with you and Nat. I think they're
the best team in the East, or certainly will be.
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But I think the Lakers are the best team in
the league. But we saw in Houston when Charles Barkley,
who was still good ball. People want to now you know,
revisionist history or they were old now Barkley was still
very good, a great player. Ty Drexler was still very
good hockey. Malijuan was still putting up huge numbers. And
they never went They were two years together, never got
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even got to the finals. We remember we saw Will Chamberlain,
Jerry west El, Jim Baylor. They played like fort c
sense together and didn't win it. And uh, you know
they won it later when when Baylor retired. So it
is tough. It's more than a notion to bring together
three big time scores. And I think what I saw
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Rob Kyrie was very aggressive, and when the three of
them were on the floor together, Kyrie was the ball handler,
which I think they should actually have Hardened be the
ball handler. But Kyrie was the ball handler because I
don't think Harden is as good off the ball, and
maybe none of them are. Kyrie may not be as
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good off the ball, but he played off the ball
with Lebron And obviously you keep pointing out, but you're right,
he was bawling. Yeah, the finals, right, let's just those
are the niners, right. Well, when when Steph Steph averaged
twenty eight points in the final spot his career, that's
that's just another top but he lost. But but he
well actually really really he's got three raids. But anyway,
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that's another topic for another day. But Kai, I think
hardened you Rob, we watched it in Houston. Hardened. When
he didn't have the ball, he stood somewhere between the
hash mark and half court twiddling his thumbs. You know,
I mean literally, like not literally, but you know, he
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really was not involved. That was one of the issues
Chris Paul had with him. Was like, yo, dude, like,
can you at the very least spot up by the
three point line? Right? And he's doing that, He was
doing that tonight like he was by the three point line.
But he's not. I just don't think his game is
going to flourish off the ball. And look, this is earlier, right,
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we're not making any let's not making the team first
game of them playing together. It's not like they had
a lot of practice time. Kyrie wasn't around. It's it's
a work in progress. Chris. The best part, if you're
a Nuts fan or if you're a Brooklyn management men
or whatever, there's fifty some of our game. There's fifty
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games a player, whatever the number is. There's a long
way to go, and you want to be revved up
and got to feel for each other going into the
playoffs more so than right now. And well even despite
that ahead because they won four in a row, right,
haven't they won four in a row? Well yeah, when
they you know that was without Kyrie, right right. But
I'm just saying like they could take off a stretch
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him and won a number of games, is what I'm saying,
is like they did, and I think what they're going
to do. You're gonna stagger Hardening Kyrie's minutes and they're
obviously gonna play together a lot, especially early in the
game and late in the game. But during the game,
and you saw it already to night, you know, there
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was a lot there were a lot of minutes where
Kyrie and Durant we're out there or Hardening Durant, we're
out there, and they're gonna And that's when the benefits
of having a big three, rob is that you can
always have at the very least, you're gonna have one
superstar score on the floor, and you most times you're
gonna have too. I was gonna say, right, right, and
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and and and that does make it crish when other
teams are putting in second unit guys or whatever, you
still want to have a stud out there who can
just control the games those guys, right, yeah, Yeah, So
it looks it's gonna be a work in progress. Uh,
you gotta find a way. Usually in big threes, when
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one or two of the guys is ball dominant, one
of the three has typically taken a back seat. You know,
we saw it with Bosh, Chris Bosh, with Lebron and Wade,
we saw it with Kevin Love love with Lebron. Oh,
that's gonna happen, right, And and Kyrie the thing is
the one who's personality is most suited to step back
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as Durant. But he's your best player, right. But remember
Kyrie or Hard and stepping back. But Harden is the
one who tried to force his way into this, right, duo,
Do you know what I'm saying, Like like like Chris,
you you looked and you saw those two guys there, right.
It's not like it's a shock, like you saw those
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two guys, right, and that's where you wanted to go.
So the concession has to come a little bit from Hard,
not completely like like give up, like his drive and
desire and his skill, you know what I mean to
be at to acquiess to everybody else. But you can't
come in there in a situation where they already had
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this bond of that they were gonna go to Brooklyn
and they we're gonna do that thing, and you wanted
to join them and they welcomed you. So I think
he's yeah, I think it's a little bit of of
a tough spot to be in the minutes in this game,
A little high U, Durant and Harden nineteen seventeen. Yeah,
so there's some some minutes there, and I don't know
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if they're just trying to get I can see why Kyrie,
because they haven't played in two weeks. Chris, he should
be playing. I don't have an issue. Durant hardened maybe
a little bit. Yeah, I mean they're on pace for
thirty eight minutes. That's not just about it. You know
that we you and I covered the NBA when they
were playing. You know, it was it was nothing for
a guy to play forty minutes a star. So they
cut it back now, right right. But what they're gonna
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do Rob and Nash even said this, they're not gonna
have much practice time because teams are essentially playing every
other day. I mean you know that. You know, obviously
not all the time, but for the most part, you're
playing every other day and you're not killing yourself in
that off day. So there are a lot of their
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feeling each other out. Getting acclimated to one another is
going to be during the game. So they may lose
some games as they're working things out. I don't think
they don't win every game obviously, well, I mean even
like they could lose tonight. I mean Cleveland, you know
they're six and seven entering the game, but they actually
play really good defense. Their second in the lead Egan
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defensive efficiency, so they can d up. And again, you know,
every team in the NBA has talent and any given night,
anybody can wine. So you may see them lose to
some teams. You just can't make a huge statement out
of it. But I but what do we always do?
What's the equalizer? What's the equalizer? Chris? In the playoffs
with the good team well having guys that can go
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get it well before out of seven, yeah, I mean
you could beat You could beat Lebron and Anthony Davis
a game or two. Can you beat them four times? Right?
I mean that That to me, that's why most of
the time you don't have big upsets because you can't
beat those guys. You can't. You're gonna be Michael Jordan
four times, Chris, And in the seven game spirit period,
I doubt it, right if it was one game or
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two out of three, I'm with you. I think the
challenge heat hardened. You mentioned you know he's got to
step back probably a little, because he's the newcomer, and
I think that's kind of human nature in the lottery
ecs um. And he maybe he ain't gonna be fine
with getting you know, ten points. No, no, no, I don't.
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But he shouldn't be here and he shouldn't be and
the nuts shouldn't want him to get ten points. This
should be minutes when those two guys sit down, Chris.
They don't all need to be out there together. There's
gonna be plenty of time where Harden should be the
main guy out there right when those guys are getting
a blow. Yeah, but this is this is what we've
been talking about, Rob. Though, this is a challenge. This
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is a challenge, And you're right. If I was James
Harden and I'm not, He's not not gonna get mad
at teammates and anything. But you know, he didn't go
there to score two points, you know, in a half.
And I don't want to make a grand judgment out
of it, but still, this is what we're talking about. Though.
I don't know if a team has ever had three
guys score twenty five or more points a game averaging UM.
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But for Harden to drop down to twenty five is
like a long drop. Now, we we did see and
he was a rare superstar star, but you and you
covered him, Rob marcacguire. The sacrifice he made was amazing
because remember in Dallas, he was a big time score.
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People forget that. Then he came to twenty six points
and they went to seven games with the Showtime Lakers
in the conference finals. So it wasn't like he was
just putting up numbers on a bad team. He was
a baller on a good team. And you're right when
he came to the Pistons, what do he averaged fifteen
maybe his first year, volunteered to come off the benches
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second year because they should start robbing. So he was selfless.
But that's rare, and so they got a lot to
work out. But it's gonna be fun to watch. And
some of you think maybe that it won't work out,
but we're gonna check it out from you now eight
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You don't take the money out of the plate, you
put it in, Okay, Okay, bad. We want to welcome
in a Hall of Fame quarterback and had a tremendous
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career with the San Diego Chargers, Dan Fouls, Dan, welcome
to the Eye Cup. What's happening, Dan? Well, that's good
to be with you. Boys. Hey, let me let me
let me say this real quick, okay, because Dan, watching
you as a kid man, do you know air correlle
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of receivers, and I still to this day Howard Cosill
did an introduction that I still remember to this very day.
On Monday Night, football Ready. The San Diego Chargers led
by Dan Fouls have an awesome passing attack last time
out against Seattle. Look at the day he had over
three hundred yards. Fouse, of course, has the great receivers
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to throw too tight end Kellen Winslow number eighty. There's
also the new man of Charlie Joinder number eighteen right there.
Do you remember those days right there? Right right there?
Da how It was the best for these millennials who
never saw Howard coach sell. But then you gave so
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many thrills as a quarterback man with that team. Well,
you know what, we had great players, we had a
great coaching staff. It was a real pleasure to play
and so much fun. We uh, we knew that we
were on the cutting edge of what we're seeing today,
but in reality, we're just trying to win that Sunday.
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So when people talk about, you know, the future of
the football that we're seeing today and our influence on it,
we weren't thinking about that. We were just guys going
out and playing well. Absolutely, Dan, and you led the
league in passing yards four straight years. You averaged one
year three hundred twenty yards per game, which was a
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game for another year. Yeah, I mean that's huge. Three
twenty would have led the league. Now, when you watched
today's game with the you know they you can't really
touch the quarterback like you could when you played. Of
course you could get hammered. The receivers can't get hit
the way they used to do. You, Robin always say,
you can't compare the numbers, even though your numbers are comparable,
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but you can't compare the numbers of guys in your
era to what we see today. Can you kind of
explain it to the lay person, to the fan, why
we say that, Well, you just touched apart it. I mean,
the protection of the quarterbacks is primary, and then on
the other end is the receivers and protecting them as well.
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But you know, every error is different. You can't compare
the era that we played into the era that Johnny
and I has played in, that Otto Graham played in
before that. So the game is evolved, and it's evolved
to a point now where it is more exciting it's
more unpredictable because of the passing game. And I think
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you're you know, we're part of that, and I'm proud
of that. But you know, we took advantage of some
of the rules that were made available to us at
the time, and obviously that's what's happening today as well.
So Philip Rivers retired announced his retirement seventeen years fifteen
years as a starter. So of course the big debate
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now is all gonna be about the Hall of Fame
and whatnot. You're in the Hall of Fame and I
look at that. I don't expect you to say he
shouldn't be in. I get it, I don't. But the
problem I have for people who are saying it's he
should be in the Hall of Fame, like, is that
like Chris Chris thinks he should be in the Hall
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of Fame, but he didn't win enough, and not only
just about winning a Super Bowl. This is a there's
a couple of things here when I look at his
numbers and whatnot, and maybe you can tell me I'm
wrong or or point me the way, but he's Rivers
is the only top ten quarterback in passing y'all arts
and touchdowns, not to make a Super Bowl. He also
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was never a number one, a first or second team
All Pro, and even the five guys who have gotten
into Hall of Fame when I was winning a super Bowl.
So I'm not just holding that against him because you
didn't win a super Bowl and Dan Marino didn't win
a super Bowl Bowl, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, and fran Tarkington,
but all of you guys were first team All pros.
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Am I crazy to think that he belongs in the Hall?
Are very good? No, You're not crazy. And it's gonna
be five years before we even sit down and decide this,
So a lot's gonna happen in that five years. I mean,
we just had the I am a selector of the
Hall of Fame, oh yesterday, and yesterday was the vote,
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and the vote won't be made public for a couple
of weeks now, but we did sit and vote yesterday.
And obviously I don't think I'm you know, telling anybody
they don't already know that Peyton Manning is going to
be in the Hall of Fame. Get did stop the
process right exactly? There you are, so but you know, um,
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it's it's different eras. And you know, I went into
the Hall of Fame having never even played a Super
Bowl or a championship game, and I was the first
player to have that distinction or that discredit, if you will.
But it was a different era. Warren Moon followed me
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in that category. So, um, you know, Marino played in
the Super Bowl, tarkted obviously, so to Kelly. But you
know it's different, and each time there's a selection meeting,
things are different. So in my mind, I think at
this point the Hall of Fame should welcome Philip Rivers
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because his career and what he has done. But you
never know in five years what will change as far
as the perception of what the Hall of Famer is. Chris,
I just want to follow up. I'm sorry, Eli Mann
and Chris and I debate this all the time as well.
I think Eli Manning, you'll make it because it is
a Hall of Famer. I mean, he beat the Patriots
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twice in Tom Brady beat that eighteen and old Patriots team,
made some iconic throws. Yes, his regular seasons, we weren't
the greatest. Where you want Eli Manning, it's the same thing.
I mean, he'll he'll be four years now because he
was out last year. So um, you know that's that's
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the beauty of the Hall of Fame. It's not easy, Okay,
it's hard, and it's supposed to be hard to get
into the Hall of Fame. And you know your your
numbers and your records speak for themselves. But and yet
you go into that meeting with forty eight selectors. There's
a lot of debate. He you know, pro and con
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for everybody except that you know, Peyton Manning, well, if
you get my point right now, and not because you
didn't win a Super Bowl, but just because you you
understand it's obviously a team game. Does it bother you
as a former quarterback when we put so much emphasis
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on rings and a lot of times, like Rob and I,
we we don't judge only by rings. You know, it's
a factor, but it's not the only thing. But to
a lot of people it seems like that's the case.
Does that bother you when people put so much emphasis
on quarterbacks and how many rings they have? No, it doesn't,
because you play to win, okay, and if you that's
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the key, you know, that's every player will tell you.
You know, you play the game to win the game,
and you know, if you don't, that's that's life, that's
the game. But the important thing is that you played
to win. And I think that when you look at
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a lot of players, and just at the quarterback position,
but you mesure you measure every career as about the
character of the player, uh and how he played in
the numbers he put up or whatever. But did you
play to win? Did you give it your all? And
that's what the Hall of Famer really is. Dan, great stuff.
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We appreciate it, and thank you for your time. We
appreciate you, Dan, Thank you so much. And come on,
you gotta be a impressed. I knew that Howard co
cell intro to Monday Night Football, that was my stuff.
It was a little odd, but what else can you
expect on me? That's right, that's right, all right, Dan,
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thanks a lot. We appreciate buddy. Take care boys. All right.
We got Kendall Gill who's ready to throw some blows.
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fifteen year NBA veteran. Now he calls sports for the
NBC Sports in Chicago. He's an analyst for the Bulls. Kendall,
Gil Kendall, Welcome to the okam slapping the Kendall. Hey,
how you guys doing? Man? Great man, It's great to
have you on the show. Brother. And uh, we're gonna
get to the basketball. Yes know you already, you just
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right into it. Yes, I'm jumping right in. We we
all watched in horror when Nate Robinson got put to
sleep by Jake Paul and Jake Paul who was much
bigger than Nate. Obviously Nate didn't have any experience in
the boxing ring, but he went on this spree of
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of calling out the NBA. Right, he called out Lebron.
He wants to fight Lebron. I think he called out
a few other players. And you have called his bluff
and you have put forth the challenge that you want
Jake Paul in the ring. Tell us why? Well? The
reason why is one. You know, when I when I
first started boxing professionally, you know, people doubted my skill
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level and everything like that. I want to show my
skill level on a platform where everybody can see it,
where everybody shoes, all of the hard work that I
put in. Secondly, because of the way they took advantage
of Nate, I mean, and they actually asked for it.
He called Jake Paul out. But when he went in there,
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he found out that being an elite athlete, being a
strong guy, being a fast guy, it doesn't translate into
the boxing ring unless you really know the sweet science,
unless you put years in the banks as far as
learning the sport. And uh, you know, he quickly found
out that you know, you got you gotta be more
than the tough guy to survive in the ring. And
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I was ahead and thoroughly and thoroughly and thoroughly. I
just I just don't think Jake Paul is a very
good fight. I mean, he looked good because of because
of he was in there with Nate. But you know,
I've watched that fight over a hundred times. Man, he
makes so many mistakes that you can capitalize on. I
was gonna say, yeah, for a lot of guys who
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think they're tough until you get in the boxing ring
and they get hit for the first time, and then
all of a sudden, they don't want to box, you
know what I mean, Like am I right. I mean, yeah,
you're right. And it also comes down to the endurance
that it takes. Uh, the fact that you can't call
the time out. You know, in basketball, you can call
the twenty catch the breath, you know, in the in
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the boxing ring, you cannot call the time out at all.
So you know, that's that's the most difficult part about it,
as the conditioning that it takes. You know, when I
first started training seriously, I was in basketball shape because
that was my last year in the league, and you know,
I went in and I couldn't even box around. So
you know, that's that tells you exactly what type of
endurance it take. Now you were four and old, kindle, um,
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when's the last time you fought? You're my age, so
you're you're a little older. Does that concern you at
all if indeed this fight happens. No, it doesn't confirm
me at all because I stayed in the gym. You know,
if I had not been in the gym for for
years on end and just go back in there and
try and pick it up, yeah it would concert me.
But you know, I still have everything. I still have
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my reflexes, I said, my power, my quickness. My weight
is way down. You know, I don't get out of shape.
So boxing to me is a lifestyle. Training to me
as a lifestyle. So you know, I don't have any
concerns at all. You know, give me, give me eight weeks,
I'll be ready. So so tell me what happened when
Nate Robinson got floored? Did you were you like, oh
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my god, were you laughing? I mean not everybody the
barber shop making everybody laugh, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,
I wasn't. I wasn't laughing at all. As a matter
of fact. You know, I know Snoop was funny, but
I you know, I don't joke around when somebody gets
knocked out like that, because I've known guys to die
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in the ring um and that's what happens to them,
you know, when they when when they take a lot
of punchment. They they didn't take uh like six rounds
of punishment, but he took some heavy blows where he Finishedralia.
But I've seen guys take a lot of punishment and
standing there for the duration and then they don't they
never wake up. So you know, when Snoop was singing
(29:38):
the hymns and everything. I didn't think that was funny
because you know, this this guy's life to be on
the live. You know, Um, I take the sports seriously.
It's you know, it's no joke to me. And uh,
you know it because I because I do. I covered
boxing for Premium Boxing International sometimes too. I last called
the Mannie Pacquiel, uh with Keith Thurman, So you know,
(30:03):
I'm really into it. And you know, I just say,
I just think that anybody that stepped inside those ring
roads deserves credit because it takes a lot of hard
a lot of skill to get in there and basically
put your life on the line. Kendall, as I said,
you also you call games for the Bulls. You in
their studio talking about the bullet Look, I don't want
(30:25):
to offend you, but we're not gonna talk about the
Bulls tonight. We don't have time. We don't have any
time for Noll if you know that. You know that.
But I wanted to get to the big store in
the NBA, and that's the Nets and obviously bringing together Durant,
Harden and Kyrie. Now you were on the team. You know,
I'm not saying you guys were at that level, but
(30:47):
you had big scores with the Nets. You average twenty
two one year with Cassette, Sam Casselle, who was a
big score, Jim Jackson big score. Like, how tough is
it for three big scores to come gather and mesh
and what do you think you know, the future holes
for this next team, How's it gonna work out for them? Well?
You know, I think I think that KD can assimilate
(31:10):
easily because he had to do it with Clay and
Steph and Golden State, and he also had to do
it with Westbrook and Harden and okay, see when he
was younger. So and he doesn't necessarily need the basketball
to be effective because he can get a lot of
his shots moving without the basketball. Now, the conundrums for
Steve nets is gonna come. How do I stagger the
(31:31):
time between James, Harden and Kyrie because both of those
guys have to have the basketball in order to be effective.
I think that all three of them will start, all
three of them will finish the game. But you have
to stagger where James is out when Kyrie is in,
and Kyrie is out when James is in, because that's
the only way I believe that you're gonna, you know,
(31:54):
keep those guys happy unless they just decide. Listens, guys,
we're gonna show everybody that we can play together. We
we're gonna sacrifice shots, and we're gonna do all this. Actually,
before the trade was made, I thought that the Nets
were good. How they were? Ye, I agree, Chris and
I both agree with that. We like the team had Yeah,
like Harris Laverda, like Alan coming off of the bench,
(32:16):
I'm like the man, this team is boys. They got
everything that they need and now. But you know also too,
you know, we we all unfortunately, you know, Kyrie had
to take a break and everything. I think the Nets
probably are thinking down the road to what what is
the future with Kyrie Irving? Can we trust the future
with him? So we might as well kick up James
(32:36):
Harden to secure yeah, security bank insurance policy to be with,
to have Kevin Durant be secure. So that might be
why they made the move as well. And also it's
also hard to pass up on a talent like that
if he's available, do you am I right? I mean
a guy that Harden doesn't come available all the time. Yeah,
(32:57):
he doesn't come available all the time. But you know,
like I said before, I liked the team the way
that was. And we got to look at James Harden
when he was in Houston. He had two P three,
he had West Ball, you know, he had Dwhite House,
you know. You know, so so that's those are the
things if I was a gym that I would think
I would be thinking about, Well, real talk, can would
(33:19):
you have liked playing with with a guy that plays
like James Harden? You know the way he played in Houston? No, no,
not at all because you know, pounding basketball and you know, yeah,
he gets a lot of assists and everything, but that
takes you out of your rhythm. You know, players always
need to be moving and at least touching the basketball.
They don't have to shoot it, but they had to
(33:40):
touch it. And you know, I think that the James,
you know, he'll have to that because now he's with
two more superstars, but in Houston he didn't have to
do that, you know, and I think that it totally
takes other players out of the rhythm and it doesn't work.
I mean, you saw it in Houston for what six
or seven years and it didn't work. It a quickly
(34:01):
because we gotta run for break, but are they your
favorite in the East. Absolutely absolutely. I think they beat
everybody in the league too, or just the East. You
know what, I'm gonna pick him in the league. I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna be the contrarian here. I think
I'm with you. I'm with you. I got the Lakers
beating him in the finals. I'm with you. One last thing, well, yeah,
(34:24):
you know him, one last thing, you know, do it
for the culture, man, don't get knocked out, don't embarrass us,
don't do it, worry about don't don't worry about the bag.
I'm gonna keep him on the end of my jab.
He'll never be is it is that part of it
can do quickly because you know, like I said, he's
been calling out the NBA and all that stuff. Yeah,
that's part of it, and you know and anything. Oh
(34:46):
he's fifty years old. He can't do it. You just wait,
because that's far Guys like him in the gym all
the time. All right, Well, we were hoping, he answered,
because so far he's been running. Yeah, running, even running. Well,
we'll see what happens though. All right, thank you, we'll
try to get you on again. We won't talk bulls,
but we'll talk more in play with you unless they're
(35:08):
going to win this streak man something that counts nowadays. Right.
The only thing about Chicago we'll talk to you about
his deep dis pizza. Other than that, it won't be basketball.
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whatever you want to it's shop talk, yes, sir, this shot.
Talk to your couple of Fox Sports Trader. We just
got something that happened outside of the world of sports
and today. Of course, the big story was the inauguration,
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But I don't know if you guys saw this. The
third most trending topic in the middle of the inauguration
was dir ones, as in, there was a man on
camera spotted at the inauguration wearing Air Jordan Dior ones
and Twitter was having a field day. Now we found
out later it was that says a lot about our
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country right well, about social media, especially with that. And
Bernie Sanders had on mitten. Yeah, I mean he had
the same code on that he has from his meme
that is on the internet. So that was another thing.
But the guy who was wearing it was the husband
of Kamala Harris's niece, So you know, that's what we
found out later. But here's the question. You guys are
big sneaker heads. Is it ever except mfortable to wear
(37:01):
sneakers to a formal event like this? Was Rob Parker. Yes,
my buddy Nick Newnez, who I grew up with and
Jamaica Queens had a wedding. I was in the wedding
party and he bought everybody all white Air Force ones
with our tuxedos. Those were our gifts for being in
the wedding and we look spectacular. Yes, you can't wear
(37:24):
sneakers to a formal event. I have a hard time
believe in. Y'all look spectacular, We look spectacular. I'll show
you a picture. But that I think that's a little
different though, because that was the you know, that was
the groom saying that's what he wanted. No, but it is,
I right, you, But you wouldn't have just done that,
(37:46):
you know, as one of the say you were groomsmen,
everybody was just wearing regular let's say they were wearing
white pattern you know, white shoes. You wouldn't just wear
some air some white No, I wouldn't do that. But
if I went to an event or some sort of
event and I had a pair you know, do you
have dress sneakers that kind of go If you had
jeans and a sport coach, Chris, you could pull it
(38:08):
off like if I were sneakers today, And I think, right, yeah,
but I think that's different too, you know now. But look,
the bottom line is this today it pretty much anything
goes Alex jump in. I think Chris nailed it exactly.
If you're an actual formal event where it's not on
purpose or people who weren't sneakers. You know, if you're
(38:29):
above the age of fifteen, put out some dress shoes.
Come on, man, Rob, I'll say this. I don't think
there's any etiquette anymore. I don't think we have to
have a set standard. You flex in some Air Force one,
some Jordans that your man Rob Parker gets you for
your first ever set. I'm showing up at weddings. I'm
showing up at Bermtz fuzz I'm showing up at baby showers,
you name it. I'm there with them, strapped baby. He
went to a funeral and said, look at my shoes.
(38:50):
I did we rest in peace? Now give me a kiss,
Wait till I get these two new pairs of Air Jordans.
You heard that, Rob, Rob j Alex didn't hear that? Alex?
Oh no, y'all knew what was you hear that? But Bay?
Did you hear that? I was picking top of Bay
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All right, Rob, We we talked about it earlier. I
was excited to see the Nets play and the Big
(02:14):
Three debut, I Rob. I haven't been this excited about
a debut for a trio since Miami twenty ten, when Lebron, James,
Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh played together. And I don't
know if you remember that game. I was there. It
was in Boston and it didn't good good, it didn't
(02:35):
go well. They only scored with think about it, with
those three players and I know it was a different era,
but still they only scored eighty points. And it was
a lot of my turn, your turn, you know. And
that's what happens with superstars when they come together, because
sometimes they overdiffer, you know, and you want to you
(02:56):
don't want to, you know, you want so and so
to get his and it I shoot it or give
it to him. You know, all that type of stuff
going on. So you know, it obviously took that team
a while to jail. And let me say this, Kyrie
ain't deferring, Kyrie is balling. Now here's the score, fifty one,
(03:19):
forty nine Cleveland, all right, So several observations from this,
but let me give you some of the stats that
you can weigh in and then we can get in
the discussion. Kyrie Irving at halftime seventeen points. This is
first game back in two weeks. Seventeen points, eight of
ten shooting. So the brother is on fire, right. It
(03:39):
ain't like he's forcing up. He's got eleven shots, I mean,
fifteen shots for seventeen points. It ain't like right nine nine,
he's he's scoring and one assists seventeen points. Kevin Durant
eleven points, six dimes, six assists, five rebounds, He's four
of nine, so he's only taking one fewer shots then Kyrie.
(04:01):
James Harden two points and he just scored those. I
just saw him right before the half. He hit two
free throws. He got two points. He's only taking two shots.
So I want you to go ahead and weigh in
and uh, and then I'll bounce off that it's gonna
take some time for them to figure it out. We
already know there's no debate about the talent of these guys.
(04:25):
And Kyrie han't played Chris in two weeks and he
looks fine to me, looks like he could play well.
I don't think that's the issue. It's about where his
head is and if he's gonna stick with the team
and be there the whole year. That's the only question.
As far as James Harden, it would be different. Maybe
I don't know. Maybe just he does have five rebounds,
(04:46):
right and four assists, so he's in the mix, and
maybe he just didn't see shots he wanted. It ain't
easy to mix all three. Someone that's going to have
to take slight of a back seat, right, It's just
not enough for everybody Chris to score thirty points. It's
just not we'll see and that's not happen. Yeah, it's challenging,
(05:08):
but talent wins out. There'll be times not maybe well
but when, but the most part, for the most part
in the Yeah, especially in the NBA. We we we've
seen you know this, We've seen great trios come together
and not when everybody thinks old Boston and I liked
the Nets. I'm with you and Nat. I think they're
the best team in the East, or certainly will be.
(05:30):
But I think the Lakers are the best team in
the league. But we saw in Houston when Charles Barkley,
who was still good ball. People want to now you know,
revisionist history or they were old now Barkley was still
very good, a great player. Ty Drexler was still very
good hockey. Malijuan was still putting up huge numbers. And
they never went They were two years together, never got
(05:52):
even got to the finals. We remember we saw Will Chamberlain,
Jerry west El, Jim Baylor. They played like fort c
sense together and didn't win it. And uh, you know
they won it later when when Baylor retired. So it
is tough. It's more than a notion to bring together
three big time scores. And I think what I saw
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Rob Kyrie was very aggressive, and when the three of
them were on the floor together, Kyrie was the ball handler,
which I think they should actually have Hardened be the
ball handler. But Kyrie was the ball handler because I
don't think Harden is as good off the ball, and
maybe none of them are. Kyrie may not be as
(06:35):
good off the ball, but he played off the ball
with Lebron And obviously you keep pointing out, but you're right,
he was bawling. Yeah, the finals, right, let's just those
are the niners, right. Well, when when Steph Steph averaged
twenty eight points in the final spot his career, that's
that's just another top but he lost. But but he
well actually really really he's got three raids. But anyway,
(06:59):
that's another topic for another day. But Kai, I think
hardened you Rob, we watched it in Houston. Hardened. When
he didn't have the ball, he stood somewhere between the
hash mark and half court twiddling his thumbs. You know,
I mean literally, like not literally, but you know, he
(07:19):
really was not involved. That was one of the issues
Chris Paul had with him. Was like, yo, dude, like,
can you at the very least spot up by the
three point line? Right? And he's doing that, He was
doing that tonight like he was by the three point line.
But he's not. I just don't think his game is
going to flourish off the ball. And look, this is earlier, right,
(07:42):
we're not making any let's not making the team first
game of them playing together. It's not like they had
a lot of practice time. Kyrie wasn't around. It's it's
a work in progress. Chris. The best part, if you're
a Nuts fan or if you're a Brooklyn management men
or whatever, there's fifty some of our game. There's fifty
(08:02):
games a player, whatever the number is. There's a long
way to go, and you want to be revved up
and got to feel for each other going into the
playoffs more so than right now. And well even despite
that ahead because they won four in a row, right,
haven't they won four in a row? Well yeah, when
they you know that was without Kyrie, right right. But
I'm just saying like they could take off a stretch
(08:24):
him and won a number of games, is what I'm saying,
is like they did, and I think what they're going
to do. You're gonna stagger Hardening Kyrie's minutes and they're
obviously gonna play together a lot, especially early in the
game and late in the game. But during the game,
and you saw it already to night, you know, there
(08:45):
was a lot there were a lot of minutes where
Kyrie and Durant we're out there or Hardening Durant, we're
out there, and they're gonna And that's when the benefits
of having a big three, rob is that you can
always have at the very least, you're gonna have one
superstar score on the floor, and you most times you're
gonna have too. I was gonna say, right, right, and
(09:06):
and and and that does make it crish when other
teams are putting in second unit guys or whatever, you
still want to have a stud out there who can
just control the games those guys, right, yeah, Yeah, So
it looks it's gonna be a work in progress. Uh,
you gotta find a way. Usually in big threes, when
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one or two of the guys is ball dominant, one
of the three has typically taken a back seat. You know,
we saw it with Bosh, Chris Bosh, with Lebron and Wade,
we saw it with Kevin Love love with Lebron. Oh,
that's gonna happen, right, And and Kyrie the thing is
the one who's personality is most suited to step back
(09:53):
as Durant. But he's your best player, right. But remember
Kyrie or Hard and stepping back. But Harden is the
one who tried to force his way into this, right, duo,
Do you know what I'm saying, Like like like Chris,
you you looked and you saw those two guys there, right.
It's not like it's a shock, like you saw those
(10:15):
two guys, right, and that's where you wanted to go.
So the concession has to come a little bit from Hard,
not completely like like give up, like his drive and
desire and his skill, you know what I mean to
be at to acquiess to everybody else. But you can't
come in there in a situation where they already had
(10:36):
this bond of that they were gonna go to Brooklyn
and they we're gonna do that thing, and you wanted
to join them and they welcomed you. So I think
he's yeah, I think it's a little bit of of
a tough spot to be in the minutes in this game,
A little high U, Durant and Harden nineteen seventeen. Yeah,
so there's some some minutes there, and I don't know
(10:57):
if they're just trying to get I can see why Kyrie,
because they haven't played in two weeks. Chris, he should
be playing. I don't have an issue. Durant hardened maybe
a little bit. Yeah, I mean they're on pace for
thirty eight minutes. That's not just about it. You know
that we you and I covered the NBA when they
were playing. You know, it was it was nothing for
a guy to play forty minutes a star. So they
cut it back now, right right. But what they're gonna
(11:19):
do Rob and Nash even said this, they're not gonna
have much practice time because teams are essentially playing every
other day. I mean you know that. You know, obviously
not all the time, but for the most part, you're
playing every other day and you're not killing yourself in
that off day. So there are a lot of their
(11:39):
feeling each other out. Getting acclimated to one another is
going to be during the game. So they may lose
some games as they're working things out. I don't think
they don't win every game obviously, well, I mean even
like they could lose tonight. I mean Cleveland, you know
they're six and seven entering the game, but they actually
play really good defense. Their second in the lead Egan
(12:00):
defensive efficiency, so they can d up. And again, you know,
every team in the NBA has talent and any given night,
anybody can wine. So you may see them lose to
some teams. You just can't make a huge statement out
of it. But I but what do we always do?
What's the equalizer? What's the equalizer? Chris? In the playoffs
with the good team well having guys that can go
(12:22):
get it well before out of seven, yeah, I mean
you could beat You could beat Lebron and Anthony Davis
a game or two. Can you beat them four times? Right?
I mean that That to me, that's why most of
the time you don't have big upsets because you can't
beat those guys. You can't. You're gonna be Michael Jordan
four times, Chris, And in the seven game spirit period,
I doubt it, right if it was one game or
(12:45):
two out of three, I'm with you. I think the
challenge heat hardened. You mentioned you know he's got to
step back probably a little, because he's the newcomer, and
I think that's kind of human nature in the lottery
ecs um. And he maybe he ain't gonna be fine
with getting you know, ten points. No, no, no, I don't.
(13:07):
But he shouldn't be here and he shouldn't be and
the nuts shouldn't want him to get ten points. This
should be minutes when those two guys sit down, Chris.
They don't all need to be out there together. There's
gonna be plenty of time where Harden should be the
main guy out there right when those guys are getting
a blow. Yeah, but this is this is what we've
been talking about, Rob. Though, this is a challenge. This
(13:29):
is a challenge, And you're right. If I was James
Harden and I'm not, He's not not gonna get mad
at teammates and anything. But you know, he didn't go
there to score two points, you know, in a half.
And I don't want to make a grand judgment out
of it, but still, this is what we're talking about. Though.
I don't know if a team has ever had three
guys score twenty five or more points a game averaging UM.
(13:51):
But for Harden to drop down to twenty five is
like a long drop. Now, we we did see and
he was a rare superstar star, but you and you
covered him, Rob marcacguire. The sacrifice he made was amazing
because remember in Dallas, he was a big time score.
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People forget that. Then he came to twenty six points
and they went to seven games with the Showtime Lakers
in the conference finals. So it wasn't like he was
just putting up numbers on a bad team. He was
a baller on a good team. And you're right when
he came to the Pistons, what do he averaged fifteen
maybe his first year, volunteered to come off the benches
(14:35):
second year because they should start robbing. So he was selfless.
But that's rare, and so they got a lot to
work out. But it's gonna be fun to watch. And
some of you think maybe that it won't work out,
but we're gonna check it out from you now eight
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All right, and I want to get the money real quick. Alex.
You don't take the money out of the plate, you
put it in, Okay, Okay, bad. We want to welcome
in a Hall of Fame quarterback and had a tremendous
(16:02):
career with the San Diego Chargers, Dan Fouls, Dan, welcome
to the Eye Cup. What's happening, Dan? Well, that's good
to be with you. Boys. Hey, let me let me
let me say this real quick, okay, because Dan, watching
you as a kid man, do you know air correlle
(16:23):
of receivers, and I still to this day Howard Cosill
did an introduction that I still remember to this very day.
On Monday Night, football Ready. The San Diego Chargers led
by Dan Fouls have an awesome passing attack last time
out against Seattle. Look at the day he had over
three hundred yards. Fouse, of course, has the great receivers
(16:46):
to throw too tight end Kellen Winslow number eighty. There's
also the new man of Charlie Joinder number eighteen right there.
Do you remember those days right there? Right right there?
Da how It was the best for these millennials who
never saw Howard coach sell. But then you gave so
(17:06):
many thrills as a quarterback man with that team. Well,
you know what, we had great players, we had a
great coaching staff. It was a real pleasure to play
and so much fun. We uh, we knew that we
were on the cutting edge of what we're seeing today,
but in reality, we're just trying to win that Sunday.
(17:28):
So when people talk about, you know, the future of
the football that we're seeing today and our influence on it,
we weren't thinking about that. We were just guys going
out and playing well. Absolutely, Dan, and you led the
league in passing yards four straight years. You averaged one
year three hundred twenty yards per game, which was a
(17:50):
game for another year. Yeah, I mean that's huge. Three
twenty would have led the league. Now, when you watched
today's game with the you know they you can't really
touch the quarterback like you could when you played. Of
course you could get hammered. The receivers can't get hit
the way they used to do. You, Robin always say,
you can't compare the numbers, even though your numbers are comparable,
(18:15):
but you can't compare the numbers of guys in your
era to what we see today. Can you kind of
explain it to the lay person, to the fan, why
we say that, Well, you just touched apart it. I mean,
the protection of the quarterbacks is primary, and then on
the other end is the receivers and protecting them as well.
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But you know, every error is different. You can't compare
the era that we played into the era that Johnny
and I has played in, that Otto Graham played in
before that. So the game is evolved, and it's evolved
to a point now where it is more exciting it's
more unpredictable because of the passing game. And I think
(18:58):
you're you know, we're part of that, and I'm proud
of that. But you know, we took advantage of some
of the rules that were made available to us at
the time, and obviously that's what's happening today as well.
So Philip Rivers retired announced his retirement seventeen years fifteen
years as a starter. So of course the big debate
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now is all gonna be about the Hall of Fame
and whatnot. You're in the Hall of Fame and I
look at that. I don't expect you to say he
shouldn't be in. I get it, I don't. But the
problem I have for people who are saying it's he
should be in the Hall of Fame, like, is that
like Chris Chris thinks he should be in the Hall
(19:41):
of Fame, but he didn't win enough, and not only
just about winning a Super Bowl. This is a there's
a couple of things here when I look at his
numbers and whatnot, and maybe you can tell me I'm
wrong or or point me the way, but he's Rivers
is the only top ten quarterback in passing y'all arts
and touchdowns, not to make a Super Bowl. He also
(20:04):
was never a number one, a first or second team
All Pro, and even the five guys who have gotten
into Hall of Fame when I was winning a super Bowl.
So I'm not just holding that against him because you
didn't win a super Bowl and Dan Marino didn't win
a super Bowl Bowl, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, and fran Tarkington,
but all of you guys were first team All pros.
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Am I crazy to think that he belongs in the Hall?
Are very good? No, You're not crazy. And it's gonna
be five years before we even sit down and decide this,
So a lot's gonna happen in that five years. I mean,
we just had the I am a selector of the
Hall of Fame, oh yesterday, and yesterday was the vote,
(20:51):
and the vote won't be made public for a couple
of weeks now, but we did sit and vote yesterday.
And obviously I don't think I'm you know, telling anybody
they don't already know that Peyton Manning is going to
be in the Hall of Fame. Get did stop the
process right exactly? There you are, so but you know, um,
(21:16):
it's it's different eras. And you know, I went into
the Hall of Fame having never even played a Super
Bowl or a championship game, and I was the first
player to have that distinction or that discredit, if you will.
But it was a different era. Warren Moon followed me
(21:38):
in that category. So, um, you know, Marino played in
the Super Bowl, tarkted obviously, so to Kelly. But you
know it's different, and each time there's a selection meeting,
things are different. So in my mind, I think at
this point the Hall of Fame should welcome Philip Rivers
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because his career and what he has done. But you
never know in five years what will change as far
as the perception of what the Hall of Famer is. Chris,
I just want to follow up. I'm sorry, Eli Mann
and Chris and I debate this all the time as well.
I think Eli Manning, you'll make it because it is
a Hall of Famer. I mean, he beat the Patriots
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twice in Tom Brady beat that eighteen and old Patriots team,
made some iconic throws. Yes, his regular seasons, we weren't
the greatest. Where you want Eli Manning, it's the same thing.
I mean, he'll he'll be four years now because he
was out last year. So um, you know that's that's
(22:42):
the beauty of the Hall of Fame. It's not easy, Okay,
it's hard, and it's supposed to be hard to get
into the Hall of Fame. And you know your your
numbers and your records speak for themselves. But and yet
you go into that meeting with forty eight selectors. There's
a lot of debate. He you know, pro and con
(23:04):
for everybody except that you know, Peyton Manning, well, if
you get my point right now, and not because you
didn't win a Super Bowl, but just because you you
understand it's obviously a team game. Does it bother you
as a former quarterback when we put so much emphasis
(23:24):
on rings and a lot of times, like Rob and I,
we we don't judge only by rings. You know, it's
a factor, but it's not the only thing. But to
a lot of people it seems like that's the case.
Does that bother you when people put so much emphasis
on quarterbacks and how many rings they have? No, it doesn't,
because you play to win, okay, and if you that's
(23:49):
the key, you know, that's every player will tell you.
You know, you play the game to win the game,
and you know, if you don't, that's that's life, that's
the game. But the important thing is that you played
to win. And I think that when you look at
(24:10):
a lot of players, and just at the quarterback position,
but you mesure you measure every career as about the
character of the player, uh and how he played in
the numbers he put up or whatever. But did you
play to win? Did you give it your all? And
that's what the Hall of Famer really is. Dan, great stuff.
(24:32):
We appreciate it, and thank you for your time. We
appreciate you, Dan, Thank you so much. And come on,
you gotta be a impressed. I knew that Howard co
cell intro to Monday Night Football, that was my stuff.
It was a little odd, but what else can you
expect on me? That's right, that's right, all right, Dan,
(24:53):
thanks a lot. We appreciate buddy. Take care boys. All right.
We got Kendall Gill who's ready to throw some blows.
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
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f SR to listen live. Our next guest was a
(25:14):
fifteen year NBA veteran. Now he calls sports for the
NBC Sports in Chicago. He's an analyst for the Bulls. Kendall,
Gil Kendall, Welcome to the okam slapping the Kendall. Hey,
how you guys doing? Man? Great man, It's great to
have you on the show. Brother. And uh, we're gonna
get to the basketball. Yes know you already, you just
(25:39):
right into it. Yes, I'm jumping right in. We we
all watched in horror when Nate Robinson got put to
sleep by Jake Paul and Jake Paul who was much
bigger than Nate. Obviously Nate didn't have any experience in
the boxing ring, but he went on this spree of
(25:59):
of calling out the NBA. Right, he called out Lebron.
He wants to fight Lebron. I think he called out
a few other players. And you have called his bluff
and you have put forth the challenge that you want
Jake Paul in the ring. Tell us why? Well? The
reason why is one. You know, when I when I
first started boxing professionally, you know, people doubted my skill
(26:23):
level and everything like that. I want to show my
skill level on a platform where everybody can see it,
where everybody shoes, all of the hard work that I
put in. Secondly, because of the way they took advantage
of Nate, I mean, and they actually asked for it.
He called Jake Paul out. But when he went in there,
(26:45):
he found out that being an elite athlete, being a
strong guy, being a fast guy, it doesn't translate into
the boxing ring unless you really know the sweet science,
unless you put years in the banks as far as
learning the sport. And uh, you know, he quickly found
out that you know, you got you gotta be more
than the tough guy to survive in the ring. And
(27:07):
I was ahead and thoroughly and thoroughly and thoroughly. I
just I just don't think Jake Paul is a very
good fight. I mean, he looked good because of because
of he was in there with Nate. But you know,
I've watched that fight over a hundred times. Man, he
makes so many mistakes that you can capitalize on. I
was gonna say, yeah, for a lot of guys who
(27:27):
think they're tough until you get in the boxing ring
and they get hit for the first time, and then
all of a sudden, they don't want to box, you
know what I mean, Like am I right. I mean, yeah,
you're right. And it also comes down to the endurance
that it takes. Uh, the fact that you can't call
the time out. You know, in basketball, you can call
the twenty catch the breath, you know, in the in
(27:49):
the boxing ring, you cannot call the time out at all.
So you know, that's that's the most difficult part about it,
as the conditioning that it takes. You know, when I
first started training seriously, I was in basketball shape because
that was my last year in the league, and you know,
I went in and I couldn't even box around. So
you know, that's that tells you exactly what type of
endurance it take. Now you were four and old, kindle, um,
(28:12):
when's the last time you fought? You're my age, so
you're you're a little older. Does that concern you at
all if indeed this fight happens. No, it doesn't confirm
me at all because I stayed in the gym. You know,
if I had not been in the gym for for
years on end and just go back in there and
try and pick it up, yeah it would concert me.
But you know, I still have everything. I still have
(28:34):
my reflexes, I said, my power, my quickness. My weight
is way down. You know, I don't get out of shape.
So boxing to me is a lifestyle. Training to me
as a lifestyle. So you know, I don't have any
concerns at all. You know, give me, give me eight weeks,
I'll be ready. So so tell me what happened when
Nate Robinson got floored? Did you were you like, oh
(28:56):
my god, were you laughing? I mean not everybody the
barber shop making everybody laugh, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,
I wasn't. I wasn't laughing at all. As a matter
of fact. You know, I know Snoop was funny, but
I you know, I don't joke around when somebody gets
knocked out like that, because I've known guys to die
(29:16):
in the ring um and that's what happens to them,
you know, when they when when they take a lot
of punchment. They they didn't take uh like six rounds
of punishment, but he took some heavy blows where he Finishedralia.
But I've seen guys take a lot of punishment and
standing there for the duration and then they don't they
never wake up. So you know, when Snoop was singing
(29:38):
the hymns and everything. I didn't think that was funny
because you know, this this guy's life to be on
the live. You know, Um, I take the sports seriously.
It's you know, it's no joke to me. And uh,
you know it because I because I do. I covered
boxing for Premium Boxing International sometimes too. I last called
the Mannie Pacquiel, uh with Keith Thurman, So you know,
(30:03):
I'm really into it. And you know, I just say,
I just think that anybody that stepped inside those ring
roads deserves credit because it takes a lot of hard
a lot of skill to get in there and basically
put your life on the line. Kendall, as I said,
you also you call games for the Bulls. You in
their studio talking about the bullet Look, I don't want
(30:25):
to offend you, but we're not gonna talk about the
Bulls tonight. We don't have time. We don't have any
time for Noll if you know that. You know that.
But I wanted to get to the big store in
the NBA, and that's the Nets and obviously bringing together Durant,
Harden and Kyrie. Now you were on the team. You know,
I'm not saying you guys were at that level, but
(30:47):
you had big scores with the Nets. You average twenty
two one year with Cassette, Sam Casselle, who was a
big score, Jim Jackson big score. Like, how tough is
it for three big scores to come gather and mesh
and what do you think you know, the future holes
for this next team, How's it gonna work out for them? Well?
You know, I think I think that KD can assimilate
(31:10):
easily because he had to do it with Clay and
Steph and Golden State, and he also had to do
it with Westbrook and Harden and okay, see when he
was younger. So and he doesn't necessarily need the basketball
to be effective because he can get a lot of
his shots moving without the basketball. Now, the conundrums for
Steve nets is gonna come. How do I stagger the
(31:31):
time between James, Harden and Kyrie because both of those
guys have to have the basketball in order to be effective.
I think that all three of them will start, all
three of them will finish the game. But you have
to stagger where James is out when Kyrie is in,
and Kyrie is out when James is in, because that's
the only way I believe that you're gonna, you know,
(31:54):
keep those guys happy unless they just decide. Listens, guys,
we're gonna show everybody that we can play together. We
we're gonna sacrifice shots, and we're gonna do all this. Actually,
before the trade was made, I thought that the Nets
were good. How they were? Ye, I agree, Chris and
I both agree with that. We like the team had Yeah,
like Harris Laverda, like Alan coming off of the bench,
(32:16):
I'm like the man, this team is boys. They got
everything that they need and now. But you know also too,
you know, we we all unfortunately, you know, Kyrie had
to take a break and everything. I think the Nets
probably are thinking down the road to what what is
the future with Kyrie Irving? Can we trust the future
with him? So we might as well kick up James
(32:36):
Harden to secure yeah, security bank insurance policy to be with,
to have Kevin Durant be secure. So that might be
why they made the move as well. And also it's
also hard to pass up on a talent like that
if he's available, do you am I right? I mean
a guy that Harden doesn't come available all the time. Yeah,
(32:57):
he doesn't come available all the time. But you know,
like I said before, I liked the team the way
that was. And we got to look at James Harden
when he was in Houston. He had two P three,
he had West Ball, you know, he had Dwhite House,
you know. You know, so so that's those are the
things if I was a gym that I would think
I would be thinking about, Well, real talk, can would
(33:19):
you have liked playing with with a guy that plays
like James Harden? You know the way he played in Houston? No, no,
not at all because you know, pounding basketball and you know, yeah,
he gets a lot of assists and everything, but that
takes you out of your rhythm. You know, players always
need to be moving and at least touching the basketball.
They don't have to shoot it, but they had to
(33:40):
touch it. And you know, I think that the James,
you know, he'll have to that because now he's with
two more superstars, but in Houston he didn't have to
do that, you know, and I think that it totally
takes other players out of the rhythm and it doesn't work.
I mean, you saw it in Houston for what six
or seven years and it didn't work. It a quickly
(34:01):
because we gotta run for break, but are they your
favorite in the East. Absolutely absolutely. I think they beat
everybody in the league too, or just the East. You
know what, I'm gonna pick him in the league. I'm
gonna go. I'm gonna be the contrarian here. I think
I'm with you. I'm with you. I got the Lakers
beating him in the finals. I'm with you. One last thing, well, yeah,
(34:24):
you know him, one last thing, you know, do it
for the culture, man, don't get knocked out, don't embarrass us,
don't do it, worry about don't don't worry about the bag.
I'm gonna keep him on the end of my jab.
He'll never be is it is that part of it
can do quickly because you know, like I said, he's
been calling out the NBA and all that stuff. Yeah,
that's part of it, and you know and anything. Oh
(34:46):
he's fifty years old. He can't do it. You just wait,
because that's far Guys like him in the gym all
the time. All right, Well, we were hoping, he answered,
because so far he's been running. Yeah, running, even running. Well,
we'll see what happens though. All right, thank you, we'll
try to get you on again. We won't talk bulls,
but we'll talk more in play with you unless they're
(35:08):
going to win this streak man something that counts nowadays. Right.
The only thing about Chicago we'll talk to you about
his deep dis pizza. Other than that, it won't be basketball.
All right, guys, all right, brother, yeah, all right. Shop
talk is coming up next. It's the Yable Fox Sports Radio.
(35:31):
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(35:55):
All Right, it's gonna be a short room, but it's
time for shop talk. Nobody's never been a bomb shop,
do you know that? Ain't nobody you would talk about whoever, whatever,
whatever you want to it's shop talk, yes, sir, this shot.
Talk to your couple of Fox Sports Trader. We just
got something that happened outside of the world of sports
and today. Of course, the big story was the inauguration,
(36:17):
But I don't know if you guys saw this. The
third most trending topic in the middle of the inauguration
was dir ones, as in, there was a man on
camera spotted at the inauguration wearing Air Jordan Dior ones
and Twitter was having a field day. Now we found
out later it was that says a lot about our
(36:38):
country right well, about social media, especially with that. And
Bernie Sanders had on mitten. Yeah, I mean he had
the same code on that he has from his meme
that is on the internet. So that was another thing.
But the guy who was wearing it was the husband
of Kamala Harris's niece, So you know, that's what we
found out later. But here's the question. You guys are
big sneaker heads. Is it ever except mfortable to wear
(37:01):
sneakers to a formal event like this? Was Rob Parker. Yes,
my buddy Nick Newnez, who I grew up with and
Jamaica Queens had a wedding. I was in the wedding
party and he bought everybody all white Air Force ones
with our tuxedos. Those were our gifts for being in
the wedding and we look spectacular. Yes, you can't wear
(37:24):
sneakers to a formal event. I have a hard time
believe in. Y'all look spectacular, We look spectacular. I'll show
you a picture. But that I think that's a little
different though, because that was the you know, that was
the groom saying that's what he wanted. No, but it is,
I right, you, But you wouldn't have just done that,
(37:46):
you know, as one of the say you were groomsmen,
everybody was just wearing regular let's say they were wearing
white pattern you know, white shoes. You wouldn't just wear
some air some white No, I wouldn't do that. But
if I went to an event or some sort of
event and I had a pair you know, do you
have dress sneakers that kind of go If you had
jeans and a sport coach, Chris, you could pull it
(38:08):
off like if I were sneakers today, And I think, right, yeah,
but I think that's different too, you know now. But look,
the bottom line is this today it pretty much anything
goes Alex jump in. I think Chris nailed it exactly.
If you're an actual formal event where it's not on
purpose or people who weren't sneakers. You know, if you're
(38:29):
above the age of fifteen, put out some dress shoes.
Come on, man, Rob, I'll say this. I don't think
there's any etiquette anymore. I don't think we have to
have a set standard. You flex in some Air Force one,
some Jordans that your man Rob Parker gets you for
your first ever set. I'm showing up at weddings. I'm
showing up at Bermtz fuzz I'm showing up at baby showers,
you name it. I'm there with them, strapped baby. He
went to a funeral and said, look at my shoes.
(38:50):
I did we rest in peace? Now give me a kiss,
Wait till I get these two new pairs of Air Jordans.
You heard that, Rob, Rob j Alex didn't hear that? Alex?
Oh no, y'all knew what was you hear that? But Bay?
Did you hear that? I was picking top of Bay
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