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R Party. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. It is
the I Couple. I'm Chris, He's Robber coming you live
from the Fox Sports Radio studios. It is NBA Draft night,
and we are heavy on that. Of course, we got
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trolling and rolling though, with Martin Weiss coming up at
the bottom of the hour. All right, big trade around
the draft happened a couple of hours ago. Rob G
Russell Westbrook. Now ROBG has always called Westbrook, am, I'm sorry,
a future Laker. That's his government name. Yes, Russell west Brook. Yes, Um, so,
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I guess rob G is excited give us the details
of it, because rob and I aren't excited about it.
I'm excited from a standpoint of yeah, this is fun,
just like I was excited about him going to Houston.
Didn't think it would work, but yeah it's fine. We
didn't think it would must see TV, all right, and
so for our businesses and for the odd couple specifically,
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this is great. This is absolutely absolutely But according to
multiple reports, the terms of the deal or ass follows
Russell Westbrook to the Lakers, along with the twenty twenty
four and twenty twenty eight second round picks, with the
Lakers sending out Kyle Kuzma, Kntavious called Well, Pope, Montrez Harold,
and the number twenty two overall pick into Night's NBA draft.
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I definitely like it for Washington because they get off
of westbrook contract. He was old over ninety million within
the next two years, all right, so they don't have
to worry about that. And I look, they're gonna try.
It looks like to build around buddy. I'm I'm sorry, uh,
Bradley Bill, and you clear up the cap space to
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maybe bring in a couple of stars, and you know
why not, all right? But they also could be in
position if I were there, If I was Bradley Bill,
I would go tell Washington trade me to a contender,
preferably Philadelphia for Ben Simmons or Golden State, and that
would put Washington in position to really go young and
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let the new coach west unsealed yl. But this team
that's not good for business though. People in Washington really
why not, because I mean, you're giving up like the
best player you got rid of Westbrook. I just think
like for somebody to it's easy to say, hey, just
build young and play the kids or whatever, but people
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aren't gonna pay for that. Washington has been a disaster.
I call it NBA Siberia. Uh, it just has been
real bad for a long time. And the best player
you have, I'm not I'm not saying that big Simmons.
People would come to see Ben Simmons. Really Yeah, yeah,
I think that comes see Ben Simmons. I think in
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Washington they'll be more excited about Ben Simmons than Bradley Bill.
I don't think so. I think coming off of what
we just saw with Ben Simmons. And I'm not saying
he's not a fine player, a very good player, whatever
you want to call him. But if I'm a Washington fan,
I wouldn't feel like getting Ben Simmons over Bill is
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uh is we've improved. I think they went the other way.
That's just me. I don't I don't look at it
as an upgrade. Yeah, I look, Bell, you can rank
him as a better player, but you know what you
are with Bradley, He's no average, just thirty points. I'm
just Simmons, you can sell. We're gonna build around him.
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We're gonna put shooters around him. We're gonna put the
ball in his hands. We're gonna put him inside at
the in the post or the dunker spot when you're
half court. Like, I think that it could work that way. Now,
I'm not saying it'll win you a championship necessarily, but
I think you could. It could work that way. But anyway,
the talk is that Bill is all on board and
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staying in Washington, and they obviously want to keep him.
So that's neither here North there anyway. But the Westbrook
trade robe, I said, I like it from Washington for
the Lakers. Look, you got Lebron James, the smartest player
in the league basketball i Q wise, and so I'll
give him a puncher Jo. That's a lot of talent.
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That's three future Hall of famers, and they're you know,
they're all still very much capable of playing good basketball.
But on pay, it just don't fit. It just don't fit.
And I think and I brought it up with Antonio
and Doug. They both agree me with me. Rob. The
best way to do this from what we see right now,
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it's put Lebron James at the point. I think Lebron
should take on the mentality of being the third scoring option. Now,
he's gonna get his twenty something points just by being
out there, that's how good he is. But try to
get Westbrook to eat. Try to get Anthony Davis fed.
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Davis obviously is the number one option, and you gotta
have shooting at those other two spots and play that
way because Lebron is a great decision maker, and like
I said, he'll score if Westbrook. Rob has to become
that third guy scoring wise, he's not gonna be Russell Westbrook.
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And what's he gonna bring. He's not a terrific defender,
he's not a shooter. He has to have. You saw
Alan Iverson in Detroit with your own eyes, Rob, right right,
he had to play a role. They put him off
the bench, and he didn't want to be off the bench,
and he wouldn't work out a disaster, right, And this
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is this could be the exact same thing. If you
try to have Russell Westbrook be the third scoring option. No,
it's not right. It's not gonna work because he won't
be the guy that we've seen over the last eight
ten years or whatever it's been. I'm with you, I
don't like the deal. I just I think the Lakers
sorely need and I'm sure they're gonna get three point shooters,
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Chris and I get the line up whoever they can.
But but they're not gonna be easy because right they've tried,
with the little bit of money they have left, right,
they they try to add these friends shooters and none
of us what I'm saying it out right, and then
ain't like sharp shooters are sitting on the sidelines, Chris
right be able to Oh, no problem, They'll just go
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get three sharp shooters who happened to be not on
an NBA roster. Name give me three sharpshooters who aren't
on an NBA roster, because I don't know if any
the fringe players, marginal guys, guys who used to shoot
them through well more. Right, that's what they did, right, Matthews.
So so that's the issue I have, And I'm with you.
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I just I think it's a desperate move by the Lakers.
They felt like they need a big three, they need
another player. They don't want to wait for these younger
guys to come along. They're not gonna give Dennis Shrewder
another chance, you know what I mean, Chris like because
because everybody they had their chest stuck out. The Lakers
won the off season last year, right, they won a title,
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everybody said, and they got better. They got Cassol, they
got Shrewder. While they got better. Was that not the
the the the the rallying cry, Chris that they got
better after they won. It was drumb. I thought they
got better, everybody did, but they didn't, right, And I look,
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I do agree for those that say Westbrook will when
Lebron's on the bench, they fell off the map. That
won't happen with Westbrook because obviously he can do his thing.
It'll take some of the physical strain off of Lebron
and a d Yes. But at the end of the day,
those three have to be able to play together because
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for them to win the championship, the three of them
are going to be out there together most of the time,
and so they're gonna have to figure it out. Yeah,
if Lebron, if it takes, you know, some strain off
of him, and then he's healthier for the playoffs. Same
with a d That's good, but that's a big if
you know, Lebron's in his nineteen season, and we'll see,
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because you said it, Rob, two of his three years
with the Ers, he's been hurt. He's been hurt. That's
just just a fact. That's not hating, is it, Chris,
It's a foul, that's just the truth. And then the
year he was able to play throughout the year, he
had a four month hiatus. So that's just that's where
I see. Look, Lebron is still one of the top
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three players in the world at least, but what I
where I see Father Time tapping him on the shoulder
is with these injuries. I think if those plays happened
earlier in his career, they're not the injuries they became
because he's been an iron man for most of his career.
But when age hits you, you don't you don't have
all that durability that you used to have. So Rob,
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let's go here quickly to the fact that draft class.
A lot of people were seeing this draft as it's
going on. It's unfolding, and a lot of people are
saying they think this is the best draft since two
thousand and three. Jay billis Is said that, all right, um,
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I want to ask you this question, Rob and I'm
gonna give you three drafts. And I mean, you probably
don't know off the top of your head, but if
you think there's another draft you want to throw out there,
Bunny draft with Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley. Right well,
I'm gonna give you the three drafts that most people
feel like are the top three, at least in recent memory,
right ninety two thousand and three, which is what Jay
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Billis reference Lebron Wade, Bosh Carmelo, Anthony David West, and Darko.
I'm gonna throw Darko in there. Just I was gonna
say that's the Darko draft. I'll remember that, Yeah, okay,
I remember that here, all right? Nineteen ninety six. This
is a good one. Kobe, Steve Nash, Alan Iverson, Ray,
Alan Germaine, O'Neil, pages, Storyakovich, Marcus Canby, sharifop d a
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Raheemi's to find Marbury draft. That's a good draft. What
was Marcus his nickname? On the back page of the
uh Daily News when he came to New York. Can
be can be? Man? No? Remember you had all those injuries. Yeah,
it was a cotton Cam beat called the cotton Cam.
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I didn't know that. That's good. That's pretty good, right
he was? I mean that he was always hurt, always
always hurt, always hurt, and really good player but just
couldn't really stay healthy. Uh. And then the nineteen eighty
four draft, Robe Michael Jordan, A came Elajuy and Charles Barkley,
John Stockton, Sam Perkins. Which one do you think of
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those three in this one for a humorous sake, which
one is the best draft? Wow? I can go if
you want me to go first. I mean I'm gonna
take the Michael Jordan's draft. Uh, Charles Barkley? Who else?
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You said? Those? Those are four like like real time
and let me see hi, not to be other guys
on in the two thousand and three but I would
take that draft. Yeah. Look, if you want to go
for depth because I kept naming right nineteen eighty six,
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nineteen ninety six, I'm sorry, stapth Wise. Yeah, you go
with that draft, but I go with eighty four as
well because in nineteen eighty four. I've got the greatest
player of all time in Michael Jordan. I've got a
top five player rib at four of the positions. Jordan's
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shooting guard stock arguably stocking. I don't have him in
my top five, but he's certainly arguably there. Many people,
maybe most people have him in the top five. He's
all time assist and steals leader. So I've got a
top five center in Eli Juan fifth by my list,
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and Charles Barkley a top in my book, a pop
five power forward at four of the five musicians. Ninety six.
You got Kobe Nash. I don't think as many people
have him as a top five port guard. Iverson is
an icon and a legend. I don't have him as
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a top five point guard or shooting guard. I put
him as a shooting guard, and I don't have him
in the top five. Do you? Ray Allen was great
Hall of Famer. When the best shooters ever, you I
think you say the best shoot ever. That's a tough one.
To ninety six in two thousand and three was a
fantastic draft. But really you got Lebron. Some think to
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go we got him second? Uh Wade ranks high historically
Bosh and mell Or Hall of Famers, but not like
top twenty thirty players of all time or anything like that.
But but this is comp what is it complex? Chris
Lex Magazine. Yeah right, they they ranked number one, which
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I just I'm looking at can be pejia, you know,
like Jermaine O'Neil, like really isn't only because of Kobe
and Nash never won. Iverson didn't win Jermaine, you know
what I'm like looking at this? Didn't they have two
thousand and three with Lebron and Wade Carmelo and David
West really over Jordan, Elijah, Bosley Stockton and Sam Perkins,
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who was a hell of a player. To go look
at his numbers. Go look at Sam Perkins, Chris, he
was a really good player. Yep, Yeah, that you can't.
I don't think you can put three over eighty four.
I don't because even if you, I mean again, you
and I and most people, let's face it, most people
have Jordan over Lebron. But even if you want to
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call that a wash, just for argument's sake, right, Elijah
ar is better than Wade. Yes, he's there's no there's
no question about it. Elijah was better than Dwayne. Wade's
better than Boss, no doubt, question about Stockton's better than Carmelo. Yes,
so that it's between eighty four and ninety six. Now
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I look at ninety six. Right, let's go down the line.
Some of these guys underachieved. Marbury for the first you know,
several years of his career was living up to the building.
But things went wacky for him unfortunately, right, And you
gotta say he probably didn't live up to what he
was supposed to be. Like he had Hall of Fame
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talent rob and he was on Hall of Fame, Hall
of Fame pace early in his career and then things
just went haywire. So abdur Raheem probably underachieved Camby, probably
underachieved Camby was what he was? What was? He robbed
g in the right in the country. Yeah. Um, Jermaine
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O'Neill you know, had about five really great years if that,
but you know then he I think it was injuries,
did he men? Yeah? Camby was the second pick. Yeah,
I knew he was a top pick, right, Yeah. And
so I just think that ray Allen certainly lived up
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to it. I reson't even though he didn't win a championship,
lived up to it. Nash overachieved and Kobe Kobe probably
overachieved actually considering he was the thirteenth pick and Pages
Stroyakovich was was really good. But I gotta go with
eighty four. I go with give ninety six to depth,
but eighty four is my pick. But let's let's ask
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the listeners Rob A seven seven ninety nine on Fox
A seven seven nine, ninety six, sixty three, sixty nine.
You'll turned away in what do you think is the
best NBA draft class of all time? Nineteen eighty four,
nineteen ninety six, two thousand and three, or do you
have another year you'll turn away in with Chris and
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Radio studios on a TV theme. So on Thursday, and
we got trolling a rolling with Martin Weisson about ten minutes.
But for now it's your time to shine and weigh
in on the NBA Draft. And we're asking the question,
what is the best NBA draft class of all time?
Eighty four ninety six, two thousand and three. We say
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eighty four, Maybe you say another year. You're turned away
in eight seven, seven ninety nine. On five. All right,
let's kick it off with Kade in Texas. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Kate?
Doing good? Many? I got the comparison between the drafts,
but I think y'all kind of like playing up the
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old school years heads too much. You really look at
the eighty four between O three and yeah, Lebron and
Jordan are both to wash. But after that Jordan Wash
Well even arguments, sir, We'll give you that. Arguments. Say
what was the other one? You said, Well, why did
you want only one of ring? Because Jordan has hurt White.
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He got three rings, I mean, and then after that, Yeah,
Elijah Wine was better than Wade. Wade down man, two
of his rings is the second. Elijah won both of
his rings as the primary guy right there. In no
way he would. I don't know I robbed as much
as people like Wade. I think very few people were
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ranking ahead of a Kim Elijah on Absolutely. Here's the
other thing, Chris, if if they didn't gang up in Miami,
Wade might have one in Boss might have none, might
have with Wade am I right now, Lebron might have
one or two. Yeah, I mean look, Miami was going
out in the first round before Lebron got there. Yeah,
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they won it with shock and oh six, but they've
fallen off big time. That's what I'm saying, Like, let's
not let's not get crazy. Uh, let's go to a
blind Seahawks fan in Olympia, Washington. What's up, guys? How
are you doing? Good man? I just want to say, um,
I think the eighty four draft class is the best
one at the moment because you have all the death
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and every death and everything like with Jordan Elijah on On,
John Stockton and Charles Barkley. But I think, you know,
in a couple of years, like three to five years,
give it. I wouldn't be surprised if we're talking about
the two thousand and eighteen draft class. Luca don who's
turning into the Alto or was a greater player than
the NBA, and I'm not gonna say that yet too soon.
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Trey Young also doing the same. DeAndre Ayton also a
good player. I'd also say, you know, Si Gil just
good player. Mpj's evolving like that's a good class. That's
a good Luca does. Luca has potential to be, I mean,
one of the absolute all time greats. And Trey Young
is you know, we'll see what he looks good. Uh.
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DeAndre Ayton had obviously a great postseason. No, I mean,
I don't know if he can surpass Ribal we eighty four.
But that's a good class. That could be a really
good class. No, it could be nothing not there yet, right,
I don't. I'm sorry. The two thousand and three over
over the eight. I just can't get with it, Chris.
I mean, he just did the rings argument, you know,
That's all he did. That was his argue. Way got three,
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elij Onan's got two. That was his argu And we
get it that. Like you said, he said, if Jordan
doesn't retire, maybe elij One doesn't have those. Okay, But
like you said, if Lebron, Wade and Bosh don't team
a boss certainly has no rings, right, he would have none.
Wade might have the one, and who knows how mean
Lebron's got right, So maybe Lebron isn't in the conversation
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with Martin Wise, Tom Brady. He's done, Aaron Rodgers did
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or rolland that's right, it's roll or Roland And I'm
Martin White to educates you the first time here and
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Robert Chris like the story, and I hear you hear
the roll sound. And if they don't, you hear the
troll sound. Oh man, hey, hey, hey, hey hey. And
before we get started, I gotta sell rolling with my
man Rob Gez because when the dad met Rob G,
he said, hey, my name is Rob G and Russell
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Westbrook is a future Lakers. He can standing for three
D and it finally came true. Congratulated to you, my friend,
he said about said about fifty players. I mean, what
one at number two? On the quiet? Rob G will
not admit it, but I can tell he don't like
this move he does, he won't. You can catch it
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to the Rob you don't like it. He's honest, excited
as he usually is when the Lakers. When when a
d uh came to the Lakers, he was a static.
I think he felt like he was six foot tall.
You remember that oh wows on the way. That's right,
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he ain't singing Rats Brooks holding the way, Bob, He's over.
I don't want to talk to you guys no more
any event. Two groups who couldn't that seems to come
together all off season, half came together and the Green
Bay Pactors have Aaron Rodgers back in the fold for now,
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but wide receiver Devanta Adams contractor sailing flux the hang up.
Green Bay agreed could make Adams the highest pay wide
receiver in football. And there's a little bit of a
difference of opinion because how much that actually is because
he's DeAndre Hopson's contract. In any events, Adams is a
great receiver, but Rob told Vante Adams should be the
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highest pay receiver in football. I'm rolling with it. I
think he's tremendous and we saw the numbers he put
up last year in that offense. And what did he
miss three games last year? I think he missed two
two and a half games or three games. I mean
he was a machine, he had the quarterback, he made
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all the plays. He's the best receiver in football. I'm
rolling with it as well. I got no problem with
him being ranked number one by Madden and it was
it ESPN. I think they ranked the number one as well.
It's arguable, we know DeAndre Hopkins is great and there
to find digs and a few others, but this is
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how it works. Even if he isn't the best, And
like I said, I have no problem with him be
called being called the best. But even if he isn't,
it's his time. This is how it works. He's up,
you know, inflation. He should be the highest paid receiver
name mat step was a quarterback. It's an insult not
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to make him the highest paid receiver in the game.
It really is. We're sorry bringing market factors in on
a Thursday afternoon. I love it. It's a rolling a
couple of Fox Sports Radio. Now. It feels like the
entire world got traded today, but a trade made a
few weeks ago is back in the headline. The Titan
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sat him and stopped and Julio Jones this offseason, and
Atlanta owner Arthur Blake said he tried to get in
touch with Jones as he was demanding the trade to
discussion struture, but couldn't get Julio on the phone. Rob
Julio did ten years in Atlanta. Trolla rolling, Julio Jones
should have handled his trade request gutter, I'm rolling with it. Yeah,
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it could have been private. It didn't have to be public.
Um and uh, the idea that he wouldn't return or
answer the call to is just uh, you know, not professional,
just accepted. People have been traded. Some of the greatest
players in the history of sports have been traded. It's
not a reflection to him. It's just the business. Yeah,
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I'm rolling with it as well. Yeah, just be professional.
You know, even if you're upset, you don't like the
way you've been treated or whatever, be professional. Answer the
man's car if you if you got something to say
to him, say it to him. I paid millions of
dollars Chris over to all these years, right, and you
can be tell him. Look, I don't like the way
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I've been treated here, or I don't think we've built
this team the right way. You know, you promised me
we go for a Super Bowl every year. I don't
think we've done that. That's why I went out. That's
why I'm upset. But you can tell him, man, the man,
either in person or on the phone, so you could
have handled it better. Roll them on our couple. Fox
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Sports Radio to nice the NBA draft, and Dalen Green
was the second pick after Fay three decided the four
Gold College to play professionally in the NBA league. We
see more and more guys get drafted to Night who
played professionally before the NBA. We see more and more
international players drafted early and having early success in the NBA.
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Chris trolling rolling. More American born players are gonna forego
college and play professionally elsewhere before they're eligible for the league. Yeah,
I mean it's gonna be more and more because you've
seen we had what two G League players in the
top eight, Kaminga and Green. Now, maybe name, image and
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likeness could change it. Right, If you know, you can
go play in college and you can get the exposure,
which at this point is still far greater, far greater
than you get in the G League, and you still
get the same amount of money, if not more because
of name, image likeness, then I think that could you know,
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delay it or stop this trend of guys going G League.
But right now, I'm gonna say more guys are gonna
start taking that route, making it to me, Hill, I'd
like to make that years old, right right. I can't
blame these dudes at all, No, not at all. I'm
with you, Chris, So I'm rolling with it. They see,
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it's just how can you turn down free money to
play basketball? Right? You're gonna play for what sneakers and
warm up jerseys? I mean, like, what, right, what's what
is making? The coach is the one getting all the
money millions from Nike, and and you're gonna get Oh yeah,
that's cool. I could go to a sporting goods, Dick
sporting Goods and buy that same hoodie. Uh for some
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of these schools, Chris, right with my millions of dollars
or my five hundred thousand dollars rather than going to
play at college. And then I have to fake school,
right right, And then I gotta worry about freaking. I mean,
I don't think they're too worried about classes, but I
gotta go through the charade of going to class and
audi and all that stuff. And we're not belittling in
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education at all. Ribs got a masters, you know, I'll
obviously graduated college. Education is huge. But these dudes aren't
getting education. Did They're six months So let's not let's
not this is not oh they need to go get
their educator something about an education. Yeah, but they're not
getting it. If they're only there one and done, all right,
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and they can they're gonna make enough money where they
can go back and get their college education if they
need to or want to. All Right, that's our man,
Martin wis trolling or rolling. Good stuff, brother, All right,
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Eye Couple. Chris and Rob wrapping up a TV theme
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song Thursday and of course NBA Draft night. Now it's
still they're not even halfway through, but you know, or
they're through the lottery, they're done all over. It's all over.
Up to the lottery, let's just call it. But you know,
some of these guys they'll get you know, there might
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be a couple of stars still to be picked. Yanni
was the fifteenth No, Yannis was the fifteenth pick. Draymond
Green was a second round pick. What's your your boy?
Chris Middleton second Chris Money Middleton. Yeah, so you know,
some of these guys will surprise us and obviously surprise
everybody in the NBA too. Right by becoming stars maybe,
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But Rob, everybody knows if they listen to this show regularly,
that we are sneakerheads. Right. Um, I'm I don't go crazy,
but I like my sneakers. I mean, we all like
our sneakers. So I'm yeah, I'm in the sneakers. You're
more so because you don't have a wife that you
gotta share your money with, right right, so um, but
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we both are our sneakerheads. And three of the top
four players in this draft Rob have been signed by Adidas. Okay, right,
that's right. And let me get those names. That would
be Jalen Sucks, that would be Evan Mobley and Jalen Greene. Uh,
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they all have signed with Adidas. Do you think they
have any prayer of catching the Bohemos? The goliath Nike?
Adidas the second. But they're way behind Nike. I mean,
Nike just dominates the basketball shoe business. Uh. You think
that there's any way that can make a debt in
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Nike's empire? Uh, It's hard to believe. Uh that's gonna happen.
I Mean Adidas, as I told you Chris pre Show,
was the first leather sneaker I ever got, and it
was a big deal back then. Yep. I was in
high school. The ones you had, Yeah, and I had
the Kareem Abdul Jabbars, the Adidas with the blue uh
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three stripes, Chris and the high top with the padding
around the top. I mean, and my sister Mary, and
my older sister had a job, right, and she bought
them for me. She had a job. Came home from
school one Friday night with these sneakers. I couldn't even
believe it. Chris, I know, you went crazy. I went crazy,
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I could. I wanted to wear them. She came on
Friday night. I was dying to wear them to school
on Monday, you know what I mean, Like, can we
get the Monday right? Right? Right now? I still remember
my first payer of the sneakers, but I must say it.
They were Nikes. I was in sixth grade basketball and
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they were a pair of Nike blazers with the red swoosh.
But they were women's really, they were the women yea.
They were the women's. Um. Yeah, I don't know why.
I don't know if I could fit. Maybe I couldn't
fit the men's. You know I was wearing. I was
was sixth grade, so I don't know what I was,
what side, maybe a five? They might maybe they didn't
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have many kids from you know, boys, So yeah, I
wore the women You know you did anybody tell? No?
I couldn't. You couldn't really tell. Yeah, but they were
women's um they looked a little different than the men's blazers.
But but I remember, and I'm not gonna go through it,
but rob, I remember every single shoe I wore from
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my basketball season, every organized season I ever played, from
third grade on through college. I believe that when you
play basketball, you play, Yeah, you have your sneakers row
with six pairs of sneakers every year. I had my
one or two pairs right right, and they were like
for that year. You remember, oh yeah, my junior year
award ds and you remember those? Uh what about the
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favorite most your favorite pair? Um in high school? Or
I would say as a kid through high school, My
favorite pair of sneakers for basketball, right was my freshman
year the Adida's Top tens. Okay, remember how dope those were.
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I mean, now they're coming back out, you know people
buy them now, ad vintage and all that. But you
know what I'm talking about, The top biends now here's
the funny thing. I played in those and rode. By
the end of the year, I had a hole in them.
And you know, back then, you would wear holes into
your sneakers. And you know what we used to do,
You're right. We used to play stickball Chris at the
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park sometime when we weren't playing in baseball, you know,
when you just hit home runs over the fence, right,
and our parents were pissed because you know, when you
pitch on concrete, you drag your toe. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm talking about. Used to wear out
the front of your sneak. You have a square, yes, square,
And you would go home and your parents would be like,
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what what are you doing? Right right those sneakers look
at that, you know, and then they'd be like, oh, yeah,
we were playing stickball or whatever. It's true. And you
know now you can't really not granted, we're not as
active as we were as kids. I don't wear you know, yeah,
I don't know. I mean you, I guess you can
wear these sneakers out, but the souls are so much thicker,
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you know what I mean than they were when we
were I mean, you look at some of these even Jordan,
the Jordan ones. Remember when Michael Jordan played in those
and there's no there's nothing there, Chris like, I don't know, right,
but but he played in them obviously his whole first
year in the NBA and or first or maybe it
was first and second year, and we warm right, we
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played in similar styles were played in the Doctor Jakes.
We always talked about the Chuck Tenllans. How did NBA
players play on with those cardboard no no arts support?
They were flat. I don't know how when Jordan played
in those shoes his last trip at the Garden in
the Bulls uniform. Remember his feet were bleeding, right, He's
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they were bleeding at halftime, but he wouldn't change them
because he was superstitious and he was having a great game.
But think of the difference. Why didn't they bleed like
that is his rookie year is I guess it's because
you get used to you know, right, his foot got
used to the better sneakers or something. I don't know,
but it's a trip. But I look, nobody can catch Nike,
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rob And I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the perfect
proof that nobody can catch Nike. Remember and one when
they came out with the sneakers they had. Now, look
at what they had. You know, they had dozens of
NBA players wearing them, included some stars, right, and then
you had the street cred from the A one mixtapes,
which was huge. And the shoes actually looked good. I
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had several of them. They looked good. Did you think
Dan one looked good? I thought they looked good. No, yeah, right,
so they looked good. They had street cred, and they
had NBA players wearing them, and they couldn't. They couldn't survive.
You can. Nike is king man. And I've talked to
people at other shoe companies and they've said that they've
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hired designers from Nike, like hey, come and you know,
do that for us, and when they get away from Nike,
they can't do it. It's like the machine. It's like
a machine Nike has, and they developed these great shoes.
All right, good show we enjoyed. I hope you did too,
Pus