October 5, 2024 • 26 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why Antonio Pierce is to blame for Davante Adams demanding a trade out of Las Vegas, tell us if baseball fans will tell the Houston Astros ‘good run’ or ‘good riddance’ now that they’re no longer the dominant team in the American League and debate whether LeBron James deserves to be ridiculed for saying he has nothing left to accomplish in the NBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Something else happening. This is about the Raiders. This is
about the Raiders and what has happened. Here is their
star wide receiver who he made a tactical error. He
did when he did it, Okay, I get it. You
wanted to get out of Green Bay. He wanted to
move to Las Vegas. He wanted to be with his
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college quarterback. But Davante Addam, when you do that, there's
a chance that that guy might not be there. Something
could happen. And that's exactly what happen. So now it
doesn't really have a great quarterback. All this other stuff.
But Rob g get us up to speak, because we
got social media drama.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
We got a situation in Sin City and it's all
kind of a started to percolate on Thursday of last week,
where Davante Adams unexpectedly showed up on the injury report
with the hamstring issue. The reason why it was kind
of murky is because prior to that, he didn't show
any signs that I have any kind of hamstring issue.
So he ends up not playing on Sunday in their
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win over Cleveland. On Monday morning, Michael Fabiano, who writes
for Sports till Share It does a lot of fantasy football
work there, put out a little blurb tongue in cheek,
mostly saying we may have seen the last of Davante
Adams in a Raiders uniform. Sports Illustrated takes that quote,
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throws it up on their social media the same way
we do for our stuff, and lo and behold, who's
one person who likes that post?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Adam last game as a Raider.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Then head coach Antonio Pierce flash forwards earlier today on Tuesday,
Davante's asked about it on The k Adams Show. He
kind of tries to downplay everything, but one thing he
did say is I haven't spoken to Antonio Piers since
he liked that post, So we'll see what it is
Two hours later, yes, multiple outlets reporting that Davante Adams,
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the all worldwide receiver for the Las Vegas Raiders, has
formerly requested a trade Addison City.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And Rob G, I noticed, is your team your favorite team, Raiders?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And I know it pained you because there it is
more drama.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But I'll say this, Antonio Pierce is to be blamed
for all of this.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Don't blame social media.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Don't blame people blowing stuff out of proportion, you know, like, oh,
it's a big deal, what a Why would you, as
a head coach alien nate your star player. There's just
no reason for it. This is self inflicted. Everybody told me,
Rob G. Antonio bears a players guy. He's the former player.
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He bonded with the players. They all wanted him back.
They told the raded, don't interview anybody. We got our coach.
We play hard for this guy. How could a guy
knowing how hard it is to play this game and
all the other stuff that goes on outside the building,
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why would you stir it up and have that come
from inside your building, from none other than the head coach.
And you noticed Kelvin if anybody else did it a
front off is exact ball boy, somebody that they could identify,
that person would be put out of the organization right
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right right, because it's detrimental behavior to the organization. Why
in the world would you alien name and Adams? Why Kelvin?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, look, okay, you remember last week Rob g of
course remembers that's his squad, and we had the conversation
about Antonio Pierce saying there will be some business decisions.
The team is going to have to make some business decisions,
and that was in regards to players. He felt like
they quit on the team. He felt like they had
given up. They weren't playing hard until the end because
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they didn't want to get hurt. They didn't want to
get hurt. What's going on? So there'll be some business
decisions now. He apologized for that a couple of days ago,
saying that, you know, and there's been some distractions. I
kind of took part in that with my comments, but
thankfully you being able to work through it and blah
blah blah blah. So I think they're starting to be him,
and it goes to his disposition of the tough guy
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setting the tone we talked about this last time, him
coming in kind of being the Rod Rock guy and
his assistant coach, and that kind of works when you're
an assistant coach. Like when I played, and again this
is just high school basketball, but my coach shout out
to coach Swift. That was my guy. Head coach was
the head coach, and he would get a I saw
doing his thing. So you went on a Division III
college of basketball too. I should have. I should have.
(05:05):
All right, I should have been. You know, that's a
story for another day. I might have to get the
violins and then you know, get to telling my stories.
You would have covered me too, Rob, don't do me, Rob, No, no, no, no,
that wasn't inside Joe. It's okay. Can I tell you
about Antonio Pierce. So Antonio Piers is an assistant coach
who Rob Rob gets in your face, who kind of
slams his hand on table, motivates you, and he can
get you going when it's in that position. Right, everybody
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has that uncle who can come at you and get
you a certain way, talk to you a certain way
because he's only there for the weekend and you don't
see him anywhere the rest of the week. That can
wear on a team that can wear an a star player,
and that can wear a Devontae Adams. Where by all accounts,
he's been about business, he's been about work ethic, we've
never questioned him. He's never been a bad media guy,
guy who gets in trouble. So I'd imagine that probably
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rubs him the wrong way, and that type of coaching,
that type of motivation. I don't need that. I'm here
every day, I'm on time, i stay longer, I'm the
first guy in. So that kind of guy probably gets
the rough ways, especially if he doesn't see that it's
paying dividends. So now you add in social media, liking post,
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and now you're seeming petty and juvenile, and so that's
double in the last week. That's just what we know
of where you got him going to the media an
Tony up here saying we got to make some business
decisions or what does that mean? What are you trying
to say? What are you implying? Right? Am I am
I in those business decisions? Now you're liking posts. He's
coming out looking bad in this, even if he's trying
to set a new tone for the team. He's looking bad.
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He's looking petty, and he's not looking like a real
leader in this situation, and I know he's trying to be.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
He made a fatal mistake, seriously, and I don't know
how you cleaned it up. I really don't like this
is a fatal mistake because not only have you pitched
off to Vonte Adams, you don't think other players in
that locker room go what kind of coaches that that
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just liked something about him not being there? The star
player on the team. You think Devanta Adam doesn't have
any friends on that team?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You got friends, got some cachet am.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I right, he got Cashey, this guy played in Green
Bays but was on his way to a receiver last
ten years. Yeah, why would you do that? Why would
you put yourself out there? I don't understand why guys
do this. I'm stopped tell you why? Rob Number one?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Some people are so petty they can't unpetty themselves. That's
just who they are. Number two. You know what the
new drug is. It ain't heroin. I know it seems
like it's fitting all, but it ain't fitting off. Its clout.
Clout is the new drug. And that's why people get
on social media and say stuff. Where we come in
here the next day and we go, why would you
say that, why would you post that, Why would you
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send that, why would you click that? Because clout is
the new drug, Rob Parker, and people sit here and
for him to sit here and go, I'm gonna show him, like,
you know what I mean. You know who you are
in this position. You're the head coach of a team.
Of the article, Rob, it wasn't like he liked an
article about another player. Let's let's let's say it was
what the Raiders are in rumors to be getting Tyreek
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Keal and he liked that. Whatever kind of makes say.
Somebody also said, tuition you retire like he did jump
out of that line. Well, I mean even trying to
do out of love. But that's not your player. Yes,
that's out of school. That one. I think he was asked,
how would you handle it? I get you not saying that,
but I'm not that one's I get that. I'm not
mad that one is not a as egregious as telling
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your whole team we're about to about to have to
make some business decisions when they looking like coach, you
had us unprepared. Coach, we weren't ready for the game
by you and the staff and then you like our
arguably best players post about him being traded. So yeah,
these things don't go well for him. It'll be interesting
now now that you say fatal mistake, and I say, well,
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who does the owner? We know who that is, Who
does the GM, Who do they believe in because this
is you say it's fatal. But I say, if you've
got the ownership, you got the gentleman that they believe
in you, maybe they believe in you setting the tone
we're trying to find our identity for a team, then
it's not fatal.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And it could be fatal because the team could also
buy into that that he's not really with us. We
thought he was with us. He's one of us. He
played in the league. Why would a player You just
thought about it the other day. What was a quarterback
on quarterback crop? Now that's his player on play. He's
not a coach, a guy who never played, never strapped
it up. He played out there. He knows what it's
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about and how tough it is. And that's the part
that I'm saying. You could lose your locker room by
doing a move like that. Forget about what the owner
of them, because they all like you, they stop playing
for you. You got a problem. That's why I'm saying
it could be fatal.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You know, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
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Speaker 1 (10:06):
All right, rob G, I want to hear Lebron and
uh the question right? That was asked to Lebron, And
this is Lauren.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Joe shout out to her. She asked the question friend
of the show, right, We'll call it for you the
show Lojo, So Lojo are from the Lakers said, had
their first practice since Media Day and this was the
first time that media was allowed to come in after practice.
Ask the questions where they always do five quick minutes?
What have you?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
And Lojo correct? Ask Lebron if he felt entering into
this what is twenty second season in the NBA, if
he still feel like he had anything to accomplish in
the league, Hey.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Listen, do you search anything left to accomplish?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I mean he pretty much checked the boxes there.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Anything for me accomplished that's possible. Everything else next you, creag,
I'll take you. I'll take it. I love it. I'll
love what I'll do. Lebron changed. He's got everything.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So this season winning a championship that's not something to accomplish.
I mean, I get it saying that he hasn't accomplished
a lot, but but why are you playing that? Is
it just for pictures with you and your son with
the same uniform onre or you're trying to win another championship.
What I have to accomplish is to win this fine
organization which did me a solid, put my team my.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
A solid. Do you do for them back?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, he did him a solid by taking a son
who anybody, any other kid without that name Kelvin would
not be drafted by the Lakers. Okay, okay, nobody else
averaging five points for a bad USC team is getting drafted.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I'm not argument. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
He couldn't have been a free agent and signed and worked.
That's not what I'm saying. Or he didn't deserve a
chance opportunity. That's the solid they did so that they
could do something for Lebron. I'm just saying that, if
I'm a Laker fan, I want to hear that winning
a championship for this organization is what.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I have left to accomplish.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I want to win a championship every year that I
continue to play in this league. That's what I want.
Not I don't have anything to accomplish.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I've done everything, Rob Parker, The question was, do you
feel you have anything left to accomplish? The question wasn't
what are your goals for the season. She's asking him
in a historical context, You've played twenty two how many games?
Won championship? That wasn't your question. No, but that doesn't
have to be my accomplishment. That's what y'all want. That's
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what he wants. How you gonna tell that man what
he wants? She asked me. The question was, and you're
mixing up one and what he has left to accomplish? Literally,
the man has nothing. He's he has the scoring leader, which,
by the way, what's the first thing they ask him?
They show what they ask him in two thousand and three,
They said, what do you How do you define your game?
And he said, I'm a passer. I'm a distribute. I
get guys going. So this man, as we all know,
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passing his his main thing. Yet he's an all time
leading scorer. He has four rings. Four MVPs should have
been at least eight. But that's the story for another day.
And he led the Laker organization to a ring, led
Cleveland to a ring, led Miami to a couple of rings.
Not a man that got his son in the NBA
set and had a media day with his son. What
else is there left for? He has been an ambassador
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for the game, He has been a champion for social
commentary and political things. The question was is there anything
less for you to accomplish? Not what is your goal
for the season. No, that's a different thing. No, it's
not do you have anything left to accomplish? Sure?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I want to win two more championships. I want to
win a championship every year I played for the Lakers.
He was doing, that's the cherry on top of it.
Was referring to that. But that's the thing that he
still could have said. It just sounded like I've done everything.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I don't know. I'm just here, Rob, what I want you?
Let me ask you this. Have you ever in your
life had the question, is Lebron gonna be mentally prepared,
physically prepared and gonna give it his all? No? We know,
absolutely For something that he's about to come and bring it.
He's about to be the absolute best version of himself.
He's an amazing shape. I just was with the guy
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yesterday and he was going to have high expectation for
his teammates. We already know what he is mentally to
the game, and that's why we don't have to worry
about that. So the given is he's trying to win
a championship.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But the given is you could always still say that,
and when someone asks you about what you're gonna do
or what you want.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
To do or is there anything left?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I just I think that my first thing is I
play basketball to win a championship.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
So is there something less to accomplish?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Sure there is to win another championship for this city,
for this organization, for this franchise, whatever you want to say.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Sure there is.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Maybe not for you personally because you've already won, but
there's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That's why I play.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I play for the people in the city and all
this other stuff that comes on it just sounds like.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
This is why I'm glad you said this. You know
why you know what you played Alex earlier, not one,
not two, not through that whole thing. See, this is
why sound bites fool and semantics because if he says
this for the rest of his career, Oh, I thought
he was gonna win three four five in Miami. I
thought he was gonna win three four five. So then
he doesn't say, bring up championships. Why he ain't saying
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you want to win championships. Why you ain't saying you
want to win tenship? Why did he say that? In
my because that was a pet rally, a freaking pet rally.
He was dead serious, he really believed, literally was at
a pet rally going with the fans of Miami.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Having fought, Alex says, I'm serious to not five, not six?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
What are you talking about? Just up here smoking fans
because that's not what I'm going that's what he wanted
to do. And he's like he's getting a fan recided.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, And you know what, They failed in Miami and
he don't even want to fail.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
They only go to four straight championships, go to four finals,
win a couple and not an fail.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Failed in Miami. That team put together, they were supposed
to be.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
The only one they failed was Dallas. They weren't beating
that first team. They was on a revenge. That was
the beat your boy Kawhi was on his way. They
got the last bit of juice in that lemon from Parker,
Jerobili and Tim Duncan. I've done with you, man seventh,
you don't want to play a Samantas game eight seven
seven on Fox. Hey, you don't know what's that man?
Man six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Do you agree with Lebron when he says he has
nothing left to accomplish in the NBA?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It is the odd couple.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Will continue that conversation next with you on a trash
talking Tuesday. Rob Parker and sedentary life is good and
you don't need anything else to do. Kelvin Washington there
right here on Fox wor not three, not f they
you got anything to accomplish?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
No, I just want to sit next to Rob Parker
for the next nine years to make money. I want
to win a ratings. I want to be the best
evening show in sports talk. Rad ask me. That's when
I'm sixty seven, stick and stay. You got it, Alex.
You know what I'm talking about. Rob. Tell the people
come on stop. Oh we still got it? Yeah, listen, listen.
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When I'm sixty seven. I might not have nothing knows
to go. Hey, everything else is on Cherio top. I'm
coming every day. I've been on the radio for thirty years.
In respect on that, I still want to be the best.
Every freaking time I clack wire on't to the best.
You don't be praying. I gotta carry this thing cracking
the mic? All got it? Break? While? Are we still here?
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Odd couple?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
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Speaker 1 (17:51):
Let's start here, and I'm calling them your Detroit Tigers
because you're a Tiger's fan.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's why I got this hat on. You're a Detroit
Tigers fan.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And they went to Houston and they swept the series,
the best of three, all three games, the new format
with the wild Carter all in Houston, no Detroit games
three straight days, and they come back. They were down
two to one and they win it five to two.
Now we're gonna give the Tigers love and they move on.
They're gonna take on the Guardians, rite a team in
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their own Al Central Division that's gonna be interesting, but here.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
The big story. No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
They couldn't expect because the Astros have won two World
save you know, James Cream kind of Cinderella field to it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Uh So I'm gonna revel in that I got the
hat on right now to two thousand. It's the two
thousand logo right now. You know about it, you were there,
But you're right, there's a there's a larger story for
the country. Detroit is excited about it right now, but
there is a larger story, and that's the Astros.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And you know, they became villains when it was exposed
that they cheated. They had the banging the trash cans.
You remember that the Dodgers felt they got cheated that
year out of the World Series. The Yankees felt that
they got cheated out of the alcsp because they lost
in seven games, and they lost Game seven there if
you remember, al Tu hit a home run like he
knew what was coming.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
And then after you find out what was going on,
no wonder, they were looking like what was that game
show movie back in the day that had the cheating thing. Yeah,
they were out there acting like that. Man. They had
the buzzers allegedly buzzers and looking like bucket boys. You
ever been to a city walking out of city downtown anywhere,
they got the boy but the playing on the little buckets.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
They got the drums going on the b and that's
what they're doing, hitting on the trash cans and all that.
And now this is the official len okay, like like
Bregman is gonna be a free agent. You can see
like things are about to come undone run, it is
officially over. Like they got swept at home to the
upstar Tigers like that, were happy just to make it
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in and all that, and people thought the Astros that
won the division, Oh here we go, they're gonna make
another run. They're gonna get to the World Series. You
know what, you can't count the Astros out. You know
how good they are on the proceed. So this is
officially it. But I still have to ask, and I
wonder when you think of the Astros and what they
did the two World Series, not a one we know
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is tainted, but they came back to win the second one,
which people said that validated them, that said that they
were a good team even without the cheating apparatuses. Okay,
so would you say this is a good run, or
would just say good riddance to the Astros.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
This was a good run. It was absolutely a good run.
And I'll tell you why. Look right now, we're gonna
call them. We're in Los Angeles. You know, I work
with sports and LA out here, the Dodgers networking, and
I'm around the team and I'm around the fans, and
so they called them the Houston what Trashtros? Right, everybody,
you know what they said to me. Everybody knows I'm
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a Detroit guy, Detroit Tigers. You know, everybody's saying that
work with they Kip saying, man, I hope the Tigers
get it done, beat the Astros. But remember the Astros.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I'm just gonna say this, Yeah, seven great seasons in
the ALCS, absolutely, seven straight two World Series appearances, right,
I mean, uh, four World Series appearances, and they won.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Two Worlds of All Stars name a bunch of success,
without a doubt. So here's why I absolutely don't think
I think it's been a great run. Because what we've
learned about history is as time fades away, we start
to forget stuff, we start to forget details. And yes,
the Dodgers and Dodger fans will remember the Houston Trashows
because it's first. Forget that because they feel like that's
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a job. And the Yankees and maybe super duper, super
duper baseball fans, but the average fan, the casual fan,
the fan who just you know, I keep up with
my team and I watch a bit, they won't remember
the exact details. They won't even remember the year that
the Trash Cans and the and the Bucket Boys was
on seventeen. I know, but I'm saying they won't remember.
And I think what you're gonna find is you're gonna
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look back and you're gonna hey, remember when those San
Francisco Giants had a run. They won a few Tworld
Series titles and they look good. Yeah, remember that? Remember
when the Houston Astros won and had a nice run.
Yet remember when the when the Yankees had that run
in the nineties. Like, I think they'll get put in
a group of teams that had a really good to
great run, bunch of all stars, a couple of World
Series titles, and I think people will actually start to forget,
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not to mention. Look, there are controversial dynasties we've had.
I compare it to the New England Patriots, right, they
had to flight Gate, they as Spygate, they had picka
Gate that had a whole bunch of gates, had Aaron
Hernandez killing people gate. And the fact of the matter
is we still go back to what's been the best
team in the NFL for the last twenty twenty five
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years through Ingham Patriots. And when you start talking about
the goat or the loat as you want to call
Tom Brady, you don't define every single moment. You just
say he's got seven rings. They've won all these titles.
The Patriots were the standard for two plus decades, and
I think the Astros they're gonna get put in that category.
You remember, hey, remember that great run, and you'll, yes,
you'll nitpick at times and remember it, but you did
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whatever you had to do to win. And now history
will go and we'll start to forget the exact details
of wins in the housing and you just think that
they had a run and they solidified the last point
with that win, with Dusty Baker and them and getting
it done without the knowing, without the beske to kind
of rub it in everybody's face and say trash cans
no trash cans.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
We gotta done what you gotta say. Now, nobody forgets
a cheater. Nobody forgets a cheater. People will always remember cheaters.
And that's why even the Patriots don't get all the
love that they should from you what they do well
because I'm not gonna let it go.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
That's it, all right.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
But they also won those first three when it was
about field goals and Adam venit Terry where it was
as questionable as the second run. And I think that's
why people look at the first run. Tom Brady wasn't
Tom Brady yet, that's the first Super Bowl Tom Brady,
that first Super Bowl run. Tom Brady had one touchdown
in the attire but out of the season, so they
look at that, they look at at him verit Terry,
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one of the greatest kickers.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Bill Belichick's defense.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
What they were able to do when they want these
first three, the Astros because of how they won that
World Series, and again it was the Yankees lost all
the games there in.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Uh Houston, Houston.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
The Dodgers want to lost a pivotal game where Kershaw
was unhittable in LA and got lit up in Houston.
The idea that uh Al two Ray hits that walk
off home run against Chapman is one of one of
the best closers at that time, and then refuses to
allow his teammates to rip off his jersey because he's
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they feel like he's got something behind talking about his wife,
doesn't want people to see his body.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Come on, dude, ain't.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Nobody thinking like that when you're gonna walk off home
run away?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
We pour gatorade on, rip the shirt, the shirt and everything.
So I'm in the good riddance that they had become.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You know what, Alex, they become the wicked witch of baseball,
and everybody was happy that they're done.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I know we can move on from the Astro. I
don't disagree that as of current state, people are like good,
good writtens on the Astros. I'm not arguing that, but
I'm saying, if I'm the Astros and I you know
where to assess and say, man, was it worth it?
Or I think they do it all over again? You
tell me I think you won two rings. I got
(25:22):
a bunch of like I said, made a bunch of
all stars, big time names. We've got a couple of
titles we solidified with that second one, we can rub
it up people's faces and be like, now, what you
gotta say. I think they would deem it's worth it,
and I quiet as kep. I think some other teams
were kind of happy they were the ones that got
caught because they might be looking around like, oh, kill
our operations. Well, but but if you get caught, then
(25:42):
you get caught. And I hear you.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I'm not saying that they're the only ones who have
ever cheated, but I'm saying they got caught big time.
Or aj Hinch, who's not a Tiger manager got fired.
The general manager got fired.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Maybe he knew something.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Carlos Beltraander with the brains behind the whole thing. Remember
he had gotten the Mets manager job. They fired him
like it affected a lot of people, and in soil
baseball for a minute, to think that you would take cheating.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Everybody's trying to get an advantage. Look at the catcher ship.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
If he doesn't cover up the signs with his glove,
that's fair game if you're gonna be relaxed with it
and I can see your sign.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
But the trash cans and all.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
The stuff they did was incredible, and I think that's
why most people are happy.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
That is good written to the astros. I absolutely believe.
Currently what is today October two, twenty twenty four, most
people are like, yes, get the Houston trash tros out
of here. Holy with you
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Something else happening. This is about the Raiders. This is
about the Raiders and what has happened. Here is their
star wide receiver who he made a tactical error. He
did when he did it, Okay, I get it. You
wanted to get out of Green Bay. He wanted to
move to Las Vegas. He wanted to be with his
(00:51):
college quarterback. But Davante Addam, when you do that, there's
a chance that that guy might not be there. Something
could happen. And that's exactly what happen. So now it
doesn't really have a great quarterback. All this other stuff.
But Rob g get us up to speak, because we
got social media drama.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
We got a situation in Sin City and it's all
kind of a started to percolate on Thursday of last week,
where Davante Adams unexpectedly showed up on the injury report
with the hamstring issue. The reason why it was kind
of murky is because prior to that, he didn't show
any signs that I have any kind of hamstring issue.
So he ends up not playing on Sunday in their
(01:31):
win over Cleveland. On Monday morning, Michael Fabiano, who writes
for Sports till Share It does a lot of fantasy football
work there, put out a little blurb tongue in cheek,
mostly saying we may have seen the last of Davante
Adams in a Raiders uniform. Sports Illustrated takes that quote,
(01:51):
throws it up on their social media the same way
we do for our stuff, and lo and behold, who's
one person who likes that post?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Adam last game as a Raider.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Then head coach Antonio Pierce flash forwards earlier today on Tuesday,
Davante's asked about it on The k Adams Show. He
kind of tries to downplay everything, but one thing he
did say is I haven't spoken to Antonio Piers since
he liked that post, So we'll see what it is
Two hours later, yes, multiple outlets reporting that Davante Adams,
(02:23):
the all worldwide receiver for the Las Vegas Raiders, has
formerly requested a trade Addison City.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And Rob G, I noticed, is your team your favorite team, Raiders?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
And I know it pained you because there it is
more drama.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But I'll say this, Antonio Pierce is to be blamed
for all of this.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Don't blame social media.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Don't blame people blowing stuff out of proportion, you know, like, oh,
it's a big deal, what a Why would you, as
a head coach alien nate your star player. There's just
no reason for it. This is self inflicted. Everybody told me,
Rob G. Antonio bears a players guy. He's the former player.
(03:09):
He bonded with the players. They all wanted him back.
They told the raded, don't interview anybody. We got our coach.
We play hard for this guy. How could a guy
knowing how hard it is to play this game and
all the other stuff that goes on outside the building,
(03:29):
why would you stir it up and have that come
from inside your building, from none other than the head coach.
And you noticed Kelvin if anybody else did it a
front off is exact ball boy, somebody that they could identify,
that person would be put out of the organization right
(03:50):
right right, because it's detrimental behavior to the organization. Why
in the world would you alien name and Adams? Why Kelvin?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, look, okay, you remember last week Rob g of
course remembers that's his squad, and we had the conversation
about Antonio Pierce saying there will be some business decisions.
The team is going to have to make some business decisions,
and that was in regards to players. He felt like
they quit on the team. He felt like they had
given up. They weren't playing hard until the end because
(04:24):
they didn't want to get hurt. They didn't want to
get hurt. What's going on? So there'll be some business
decisions now. He apologized for that a couple of days ago,
saying that, you know, and there's been some distractions. I
kind of took part in that with my comments, but
thankfully you being able to work through it and blah
blah blah blah. So I think they're starting to be him,
and it goes to his disposition of the tough guy
(04:44):
setting the tone we talked about this last time, him
coming in kind of being the Rod Rock guy and
his assistant coach, and that kind of works when you're
an assistant coach. Like when I played, and again this
is just high school basketball, but my coach shout out
to coach Swift. That was my guy. Head coach was
the head coach, and he would get a I saw
doing his thing. So you went on a Division III
college of basketball too. I should have. I should have.
(05:05):
All right, I should have been. You know, that's a
story for another day. I might have to get the
violins and then you know, get to telling my stories.
You would have covered me too, Rob, don't do me, Rob, No, no, no, no,
that wasn't inside Joe. It's okay. Can I tell you
about Antonio Pierce. So Antonio Piers is an assistant coach
who Rob Rob gets in your face, who kind of
slams his hand on table, motivates you, and he can
get you going when it's in that position. Right, everybody
(05:27):
has that uncle who can come at you and get
you a certain way, talk to you a certain way
because he's only there for the weekend and you don't
see him anywhere the rest of the week. That can
wear on a team that can wear an a star player,
and that can wear a Devontae Adams. Where by all accounts,
he's been about business, he's been about work ethic, we've
never questioned him. He's never been a bad media guy,
guy who gets in trouble. So I'd imagine that probably
(05:49):
rubs him the wrong way, and that type of coaching,
that type of motivation. I don't need that. I'm here
every day, I'm on time, i stay longer, I'm the
first guy in. So that kind of guy probably gets
the rough ways, especially if he doesn't see that it's
paying dividends. So now you add in social media, liking post,
(06:09):
and now you're seeming petty and juvenile, and so that's
double in the last week. That's just what we know
of where you got him going to the media an
Tony up here saying we got to make some business
decisions or what does that mean? What are you trying
to say? What are you implying? Right? Am I am
I in those business decisions? Now you're liking posts. He's
coming out looking bad in this, even if he's trying
to set a new tone for the team. He's looking bad.
(06:31):
He's looking petty, and he's not looking like a real
leader in this situation, and I know he's trying to be.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
He made a fatal mistake, seriously, and I don't know
how you cleaned it up. I really don't like this
is a fatal mistake because not only have you pitched
off to Vonte Adams, you don't think other players in
that locker room go what kind of coaches that that
(06:59):
just liked something about him not being there? The star
player on the team. You think Devanta Adam doesn't have
any friends on that team?
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You got friends, got some cachet am.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I right, he got Cashey, this guy played in Green
Bays but was on his way to a receiver last
ten years. Yeah, why would you do that? Why would
you put yourself out there? I don't understand why guys
do this. I'm stopped tell you why? Rob Number one?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Some people are so petty they can't unpetty themselves. That's
just who they are. Number two. You know what the
new drug is. It ain't heroin. I know it seems
like it's fitting all, but it ain't fitting off. Its clout.
Clout is the new drug. And that's why people get
on social media and say stuff. Where we come in
here the next day and we go, why would you
say that, why would you post that, Why would you
(07:53):
send that, why would you click that? Because clout is
the new drug, Rob Parker, and people sit here and
for him to sit here and go, I'm gonna show him, like,
you know what I mean. You know who you are
in this position. You're the head coach of a team.
Of the article, Rob, it wasn't like he liked an
article about another player. Let's let's let's say it was
what the Raiders are in rumors to be getting Tyreek
(08:16):
Keal and he liked that. Whatever kind of makes say.
Somebody also said, tuition you retire like he did jump
out of that line. Well, I mean even trying to
do out of love. But that's not your player. Yes,
that's out of school. That one. I think he was asked,
how would you handle it? I get you not saying that,
but I'm not that one's I get that. I'm not
mad that one is not a as egregious as telling
(08:40):
your whole team we're about to about to have to
make some business decisions when they looking like coach, you
had us unprepared. Coach, we weren't ready for the game
by you and the staff and then you like our
arguably best players post about him being traded. So yeah,
these things don't go well for him. It'll be interesting
now now that you say fatal mistake, and I say, well,
(09:00):
who does the owner? We know who that is, Who
does the GM, Who do they believe in because this
is you say it's fatal. But I say, if you've
got the ownership, you got the gentleman that they believe
in you, maybe they believe in you setting the tone
we're trying to find our identity for a team, then
it's not fatal.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
And it could be fatal because the team could also
buy into that that he's not really with us. We
thought he was with us. He's one of us. He
played in the league. Why would a player You just
thought about it the other day. What was a quarterback
on quarterback crop? Now that's his player on play. He's
not a coach, a guy who never played, never strapped
it up. He played out there. He knows what it's
(09:39):
about and how tough it is. And that's the part
that I'm saying. You could lose your locker room by
doing a move like that. Forget about what the owner
of them, because they all like you, they stop playing
for you. You got a problem. That's why I'm saying
it could be fatal.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
You know, I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
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Speaker 1 (10:06):
All right, rob G, I want to hear Lebron and
uh the question right? That was asked to Lebron, And
this is Lauren.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Joe shout out to her. She asked the question friend
of the show, right, We'll call it for you the
show Lojo, So Lojo are from the Lakers said, had
their first practice since Media Day and this was the
first time that media was allowed to come in after practice.
Ask the questions where they always do five quick minutes?
What have you?
Speaker 4 (10:31):
And Lojo correct? Ask Lebron if he felt entering into
this what is twenty second season in the NBA, if
he still feel like he had anything to accomplish in
the league, Hey.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Listen, do you search anything left to accomplish?
Speaker 1 (10:46):
I mean he pretty much checked the boxes there.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Anything for me accomplished that's possible. Everything else next you, creag,
I'll take you. I'll take it. I love it. I'll
love what I'll do. Lebron changed. He's got everything.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
So this season winning a championship that's not something to accomplish.
I mean, I get it saying that he hasn't accomplished
a lot, but but why are you playing that? Is
it just for pictures with you and your son with
the same uniform onre or you're trying to win another championship.
What I have to accomplish is to win this fine
organization which did me a solid, put my team my.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
A solid. Do you do for them back?
Speaker 1 (11:32):
No, he did him a solid by taking a son
who anybody, any other kid without that name Kelvin would
not be drafted by the Lakers. Okay, okay, nobody else
averaging five points for a bad USC team is getting drafted.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
I'm not argument. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
He couldn't have been a free agent and signed and worked.
That's not what I'm saying. Or he didn't deserve a
chance opportunity. That's the solid they did so that they
could do something for Lebron. I'm just saying that, if
I'm a Laker fan, I want to hear that winning
a championship for this organization is what.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
I have left to accomplish.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
I want to win a championship every year that I
continue to play in this league. That's what I want.
Not I don't have anything to accomplish.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I've done everything, Rob Parker, The question was, do you
feel you have anything left to accomplish? The question wasn't
what are your goals for the season. She's asking him
in a historical context, You've played twenty two how many games?
Won championship? That wasn't your question. No, but that doesn't
have to be my accomplishment. That's what y'all want. That's
(12:37):
what he wants. How you gonna tell that man what
he wants? She asked me. The question was, and you're
mixing up one and what he has left to accomplish? Literally,
the man has nothing. He's he has the scoring leader, which,
by the way, what's the first thing they ask him?
They show what they ask him in two thousand and three,
They said, what do you How do you define your game?
And he said, I'm a passer. I'm a distribute. I
get guys going. So this man, as we all know,
(12:59):
passing his his main thing. Yet he's an all time
leading scorer. He has four rings. Four MVPs should have
been at least eight. But that's the story for another day.
And he led the Laker organization to a ring, led
Cleveland to a ring, led Miami to a couple of rings.
Not a man that got his son in the NBA
set and had a media day with his son. What
else is there left for? He has been an ambassador
(13:20):
for the game, He has been a champion for social
commentary and political things. The question was is there anything
less for you to accomplish? Not what is your goal
for the season. No, that's a different thing. No, it's
not do you have anything left to accomplish? Sure?
Speaker 1 (13:36):
I want to win two more championships. I want to
win a championship every year I played for the Lakers.
He was doing, that's the cherry on top of it.
Was referring to that. But that's the thing that he
still could have said. It just sounded like I've done everything.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I don't know. I'm just here, Rob, what I want you?
Let me ask you this. Have you ever in your
life had the question, is Lebron gonna be mentally prepared,
physically prepared and gonna give it his all? No? We know,
absolutely For something that he's about to come and bring it.
He's about to be the absolute best version of himself.
He's an amazing shape. I just was with the guy
(14:09):
yesterday and he was going to have high expectation for
his teammates. We already know what he is mentally to
the game, and that's why we don't have to worry
about that. So the given is he's trying to win
a championship.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But the given is you could always still say that,
and when someone asks you about what you're gonna do
or what you want.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
To do or is there anything left?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
I just I think that my first thing is I
play basketball to win a championship.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
So is there something less to accomplish?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Sure there is to win another championship for this city,
for this organization, for this franchise, whatever you want to say.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Sure there is.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Maybe not for you personally because you've already won, but
there's gotta be.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
That's why I play.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I play for the people in the city and all
this other stuff that comes on it just sounds like.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
This is why I'm glad you said this. You know
why you know what you played Alex earlier, not one,
not two, not through that whole thing. See, this is
why sound bites fool and semantics because if he says
this for the rest of his career, Oh, I thought
he was gonna win three four five in Miami. I
thought he was gonna win three four five. So then
he doesn't say, bring up championships. Why he ain't saying
(15:23):
you want to win championships. Why you ain't saying you
want to win tenship? Why did he say that? In
my because that was a pet rally, a freaking pet rally.
He was dead serious, he really believed, literally was at
a pet rally going with the fans of Miami.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Having fought, Alex says, I'm serious to not five, not six?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
What are you talking about? Just up here smoking fans
because that's not what I'm going that's what he wanted
to do. And he's like he's getting a fan recided.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, And you know what, They failed in Miami and
he don't even want to fail.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
They only go to four straight championships, go to four finals,
win a couple and not an fail.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Failed in Miami. That team put together, they were supposed
to be.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
The only one they failed was Dallas. They weren't beating
that first team. They was on a revenge. That was
the beat your boy Kawhi was on his way. They
got the last bit of juice in that lemon from Parker,
Jerobili and Tim Duncan. I've done with you, man seventh,
you don't want to play a Samantas game eight seven
seven on Fox. Hey, you don't know what's that man?
Man six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Do you agree with Lebron when he says he has
nothing left to accomplish in the NBA?
Speaker 3 (16:37):
It is the odd couple.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Will continue that conversation next with you on a trash
talking Tuesday. Rob Parker and sedentary life is good and
you don't need anything else to do. Kelvin Washington there
right here on Fox wor not three, not f they
you got anything to accomplish?
Speaker 3 (16:56):
No, I just want to sit next to Rob Parker
for the next nine years to make money. I want
to win a ratings. I want to be the best
evening show in sports talk. Rad ask me. That's when
I'm sixty seven, stick and stay. You got it, Alex.
You know what I'm talking about. Rob. Tell the people
come on stop. Oh we still got it? Yeah, listen, listen.
(17:16):
When I'm sixty seven. I might not have nothing knows
to go. Hey, everything else is on Cherio top. I'm
coming every day. I've been on the radio for thirty years.
In respect on that, I still want to be the best.
Every freaking time I clack wire on't to the best.
You don't be praying. I gotta carry this thing cracking
the mic? All got it? Break? While? Are we still here?
(17:39):
Odd couple?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
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Speaker 1 (17:51):
Let's start here, and I'm calling them your Detroit Tigers
because you're a Tiger's fan.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's why I got this hat on. You're a Detroit
Tigers fan.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
And they went to Houston and they swept the series,
the best of three, all three games, the new format
with the wild Carter all in Houston, no Detroit games
three straight days, and they come back. They were down
two to one and they win it five to two.
Now we're gonna give the Tigers love and they move on.
They're gonna take on the Guardians, rite a team in
(18:19):
their own Al Central Division that's gonna be interesting, but here.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
The big story. No, it's not.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
They couldn't expect because the Astros have won two World
save you know, James Cream kind of Cinderella field to it.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Uh So I'm gonna revel in that I got the
hat on right now to two thousand. It's the two
thousand logo right now. You know about it, you were there,
But you're right, there's a there's a larger story for
the country. Detroit is excited about it right now, but
there is a larger story, and that's the Astros.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
And you know, they became villains when it was exposed
that they cheated. They had the banging the trash cans.
You remember that the Dodgers felt they got cheated that
year out of the World Series. The Yankees felt that
they got cheated out of the alcsp because they lost
in seven games, and they lost Game seven there if
you remember, al Tu hit a home run like he
knew what was coming.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
And then after you find out what was going on,
no wonder, they were looking like what was that game
show movie back in the day that had the cheating thing. Yeah,
they were out there acting like that. Man. They had
the buzzers allegedly buzzers and looking like bucket boys. You
ever been to a city walking out of city downtown anywhere,
they got the boy but the playing on the little buckets.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
They got the drums going on the b and that's
what they're doing, hitting on the trash cans and all that.
And now this is the official len okay, like like
Bregman is gonna be a free agent. You can see
like things are about to come undone run, it is
officially over. Like they got swept at home to the
upstar Tigers like that, were happy just to make it
(19:49):
in and all that, and people thought the Astros that
won the division, Oh here we go, they're gonna make
another run. They're gonna get to the World Series. You
know what, you can't count the Astros out. You know
how good they are on the proceed. So this is
officially it. But I still have to ask, and I
wonder when you think of the Astros and what they
did the two World Series, not a one we know
(20:10):
is tainted, but they came back to win the second one,
which people said that validated them, that said that they
were a good team even without the cheating apparatuses. Okay,
so would you say this is a good run, or
would just say good riddance to the Astros.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
This was a good run. It was absolutely a good run.
And I'll tell you why. Look right now, we're gonna
call them. We're in Los Angeles. You know, I work
with sports and LA out here, the Dodgers networking, and
I'm around the team and I'm around the fans, and
so they called them the Houston what Trashtros? Right, everybody,
you know what they said to me. Everybody knows I'm
(20:51):
a Detroit guy, Detroit Tigers. You know, everybody's saying that
work with they Kip saying, man, I hope the Tigers
get it done, beat the Astros. But remember the Astros.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
I'm just gonna say this, Yeah, seven great seasons in
the ALCS, absolutely, seven straight two World Series appearances, right,
I mean, uh, four World Series appearances, and they won.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Two Worlds of All Stars name a bunch of success,
without a doubt. So here's why I absolutely don't think
I think it's been a great run. Because what we've
learned about history is as time fades away, we start
to forget stuff, we start to forget details. And yes,
the Dodgers and Dodger fans will remember the Houston Trashows
because it's first. Forget that because they feel like that's
(21:30):
a job. And the Yankees and maybe super duper, super
duper baseball fans, but the average fan, the casual fan,
the fan who just you know, I keep up with
my team and I watch a bit, they won't remember
the exact details. They won't even remember the year that
the Trash Cans and the and the Bucket Boys was
on seventeen. I know, but I'm saying they won't remember.
And I think what you're gonna find is you're gonna
(21:51):
look back and you're gonna hey, remember when those San
Francisco Giants had a run. They won a few Tworld
Series titles and they look good. Yeah, remember that? Remember
when the Houston Astros won and had a nice run.
Yet remember when the when the Yankees had that run
in the nineties. Like, I think they'll get put in
a group of teams that had a really good to
great run, bunch of all stars, a couple of World
Series titles, and I think people will actually start to forget,
(22:16):
not to mention. Look, there are controversial dynasties we've had.
I compare it to the New England Patriots, right, they
had to flight Gate, they as Spygate, they had picka
Gate that had a whole bunch of gates, had Aaron
Hernandez killing people gate. And the fact of the matter
is we still go back to what's been the best
team in the NFL for the last twenty twenty five
(22:36):
years through Ingham Patriots. And when you start talking about
the goat or the loat as you want to call
Tom Brady, you don't define every single moment. You just
say he's got seven rings. They've won all these titles.
The Patriots were the standard for two plus decades, and
I think the Astros they're gonna get put in that category.
You remember, hey, remember that great run, and you'll, yes,
you'll nitpick at times and remember it, but you did
(22:58):
whatever you had to do to win. And now history
will go and we'll start to forget the exact details
of wins in the housing and you just think that
they had a run and they solidified the last point
with that win, with Dusty Baker and them and getting
it done without the knowing, without the beske to kind
of rub it in everybody's face and say trash cans
no trash cans.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
We gotta done what you gotta say. Now, nobody forgets
a cheater. Nobody forgets a cheater. People will always remember cheaters.
And that's why even the Patriots don't get all the
love that they should from you what they do well
because I'm not gonna let it go.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
That's it, all right.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
But they also won those first three when it was
about field goals and Adam venit Terry where it was
as questionable as the second run. And I think that's
why people look at the first run. Tom Brady wasn't
Tom Brady yet, that's the first Super Bowl Tom Brady,
that first Super Bowl run. Tom Brady had one touchdown
in the attire but out of the season, so they
look at that, they look at at him verit Terry,
(23:56):
one of the greatest kickers.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Bill Belichick's defense.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
What they were able to do when they want these
first three, the Astros because of how they won that
World Series, and again it was the Yankees lost all
the games there in.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Uh Houston, Houston.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
The Dodgers want to lost a pivotal game where Kershaw
was unhittable in LA and got lit up in Houston.
The idea that uh Al two Ray hits that walk
off home run against Chapman is one of one of
the best closers at that time, and then refuses to
allow his teammates to rip off his jersey because he's
(24:35):
they feel like he's got something behind talking about his wife,
doesn't want people to see his body.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Come on, dude, ain't.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Nobody thinking like that when you're gonna walk off home
run away?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
We pour gatorade on, rip the shirt, the shirt and everything.
So I'm in the good riddance that they had become.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You know what, Alex, they become the wicked witch of baseball,
and everybody was happy that they're done.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I know we can move on from the Astro. I
don't disagree that as of current state, people are like good,
good writtens on the Astros. I'm not arguing that, but
I'm saying, if I'm the Astros and I you know
where to assess and say, man, was it worth it?
Or I think they do it all over again? You
tell me I think you won two rings. I got
(25:22):
a bunch of like I said, made a bunch of
all stars, big time names. We've got a couple of
titles we solidified with that second one, we can rub
it up people's faces and be like, now, what you
gotta say. I think they would deem it's worth it,
and I quiet as kep. I think some other teams
were kind of happy they were the ones that got
caught because they might be looking around like, oh, kill
our operations. Well, but but if you get caught, then
(25:42):
you get caught. And I hear you.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I'm not saying that they're the only ones who have
ever cheated, but I'm saying they got caught big time.
Or aj Hinch, who's not a Tiger manager got fired.
The general manager got fired.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Maybe he knew something.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Carlos Beltraander with the brains behind the whole thing. Remember
he had gotten the Mets manager job. They fired him
like it affected a lot of people, and in soil
baseball for a minute, to think that you would take cheating.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Everybody's trying to get an advantage. Look at the catcher ship.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
If he doesn't cover up the signs with his glove,
that's fair game if you're gonna be relaxed with it
and I can see your sign.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
But the trash cans and all.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
The stuff they did was incredible, and I think that's
why most people are happy.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
That is good written to the astros. I absolutely believe.
Currently what is today October two, twenty twenty four, most
people are like, yes, get the Houston trash tros out
of here. Holy with you
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