June 14, 2025 • 30 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us if the New York Knicks are making a mistake by pursuing Jason Kidd to be their next head coach, debate whether DeMarcus Cousins was justified for trying to fight a fan that threw a beer at him during a game in Puerto Rico, and explain why it’s a fool’s errand trying to make sense of the Indiana Pacers’ Cinderella run through the NBA Finals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You talked about it big story over the weekend that
bled over into today. It was reported on Friday evening
by Mark Stein, friend of the show, that the New
York Knicks were planning on reaching out to the Dallas
Mavericks about interviewing Jason Kidd for their vacant head coaching position,
that he's one of the guys that they've targeted to
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replace Tom Thibodeaux. Flash forward to Monday morning. ESPN's Brian
Windhor said on television that the feeling is mutual that
if Jason Kidd were to be granted permission to speak
with the Knicks, he would love to have that conversation
about being the next guy in Gotham.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I got news for you. Most if you're the Knicks,
don't do it. Don't do it. The Knicks need to
be childless. They don't need a kid on the bench.
I'm telling you, Jason Kidd has had ample opportunity. He's
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had nothing but teams filled with stars, the Nets, KG,
Paul Pierce, Joe Johnson. What they get nada? He had
Giannis and Milwaukee. What did he get Nada? In Dallas
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Luca and Kyrie Nada. And now you want to send
him to the Knicks. Don't do it, Knicks. He's at fourth,
This will be his fourth team with star players.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
His basket is empty and as a hole in it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Don't do it.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Go get you a coach that's a proven winner, Michael Malone.
Go get Michael Malone. Stop hoping and wishing. And if
you're gonna do this, you could have kept Timbs. If
you're gonna do it, he has the same thing kid.
Tims hasn't won. Kid hasn't won. And guess what, Jason
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Kidd is a better players in his coaching career. This
would be a mistake. No, kid, I wouldn't do it.
I think the Knicks would be crazy. Kelvin. I just
Jason Kid's been around for a long time. I'm not
saying that he can't coach. But if you're gonna make
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such a move, go get me somebody who's done it,
been there, done that has a resume that you can
look at and go, dude, this guy knows what it
takes to win a championship and that's what the Knicks
are looking for.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
The one area I agree with is the if you're
gonna get rid of Tibbs, you think you're going to
get a super next level up guy. And the only
word a couple of points where I disagree with you. One,
I think you're you're selling Jason kids short. In a
couple areas. You brought up that Nets team that was
a geriatric team. He was the same age as KG
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Paul Pierson, all them. They were as geriatric old team,
well past their Celtic time. That's why they all went
to the Nets. That was the end of the run
for them. Now they should have never traded for them.
But obviously he's not the general manager president of the team,
but so that team was too old to say. He
didn't win with them, and then with the Bucks they
were heading in the right direction and they just chose
to get rid of Jason kidds Oh, he was so
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good of him, and so he goes to the mass
and he gets to the NBA Finals, and you're feeling
good about the situation going in this year. You're feeling like,
all right, if guys are healthy, we got a shot,
we got Luca, we got Kyrie and this, we got
some other pieces. We got Lively. And then they decide
to trade him Luca without confront having consultation with Kid,
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letting him in on it. So obviously it's a it's
a coach.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
You're not a front office person, right, but you usually
talk to your coach, especially a guy that massive.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Maybe it's a middle of the night eighth man, nineteenth
man on the bench. I get that Lucas superstar. He's
in those conversations. Now, if you're the nixt part of
the reason why you want to go get Jason Kidd
is because you want to go get in because of
his relationship with Jayalen Brunton. You say, all right, they
seem to be reports are they're still very close for
good friends, and he obviously is a point guard who
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has worked with other guards, and you think maybe he
can get the best out of Jaylen Brunston because Jayleen
Brunton at this point is probably a top ten player,
and now you can get the best out of him
to work with Carl Anthony Towns, and you say, hey,
we've got some talent in this thing. And I think
another reason why this could work is because the Eastern
Conference is the lesser conference when it comes to the two.
So I think you're saying, hey, that's the case, you're
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gonna suck with Tims, right whatever with that, that logic
doesn't work for whatever reason, they don't. I want to
stick with Tims. I said that they could have just
took with TIBs. No, TIBs didn't deserve to be there.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
But I don't get where the Jason Kidd fascination comes in.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
But this is not his first job, or you're like
you brought it up, Oh yeah, maybe, or whatever like
you said, it's like Manty Williams when he went to
the Pistons, right, Oh, they paid him a ton of money.
Let's go get Minty Williams. They went to the finals, money,
went to the final. Awful, he didn't want the job,
took the money and it wound up being a total disaster. Right,
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Just because Monty Williams went to the finals, with the Suns.
He actually if you look at what went on there,
they didn't want him.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's why he was available.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
They had gone to the finals, they were up too
old and they didn't want another game. Right, How did
they go from winning two games the first two games
of the finals to be in Prisada, non Grada in Phoenix.
That's all I'm saying, like, don't fall for that. And
no one's gonna be knocking down Minty Williams door right
now at this point, not after one went to that money.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He made an effort, didn't do anything with it. But
I think the next you're looking at Jason Kid again
as a really good coach who has the ability to
have already has a relationship with Jaylen Brunson, who can
maybe get Jaylen Brunson to that next level. You see
what the year two experiment with Karl Anthony Townsend Jaylen
Brunson is. We haven't seen that. This was the first
year they're trying to find their way. They got all
the way to the game in half of the finals.
So now you see what you got there. And again
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I mentioned the Eastern Conference final. Boston ain't gonna be
Boston right now. We know that Garland's gonna be out
another four to five months with Cleveland, so you can
you're missing some pieces there. And then obviously there's some
teams that are middling with will the Pistons be will
the Pacers be this good again? And you feel like
you're right there in the mix if you're the Knicks
and you feel like he might be able to be
that missing piece as long as you do your job
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over the summer and maybe fine fill out the ross
a little bit more So. I think Jason Kidd is
highly interested because I think he is love is loss
with that new ownership, and they're the Nico Harrison also
with the Mavericks. So I see why Jason Kidd is
open to this, this new opperation. I don't see why
the Knicks would be That's what I'm talking about. The
Knicks are the ones that our Jo Jason Kidd people
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are always interested.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Oh somebody wants me. Oh there's more money, Oh it's
a bigger market. I understand why Jason Kidd would be interested.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I'm just stay in Dallas, Come on Dallas or New York.
I mean, I don't think okay, I'm saying Dallas Okay,
but that doesn't mean I'm just saying, like somebody wants
you and they're gonna offer you more money in a
bigger contract. Okay, Like that's that's what you do if
you're a coach. He played in New Jersey, he was
a coach at the NATS. I mean, he knows what
it is is bigger. Everything is bigger. But if I'm
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the Knicks, I'm not interested.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But what I understand, Mike Malone won a championship. But
I don't get Mike Malone as this amazing coach quite
as you do. He's a good coach. I have nothing
negative and Jason Kidd is not. But I'm saying, and Jason, kids,
what what give me? What I'm gonna tell you? If
you feel like that's your guy, if you feel like
he has a relationship with Jellen Brunton, if you feel
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like he's the one that can get Brunton to have
be locked his step for the next few years. But
I Mike Malone did nothing, want to ring did nothing
like he's done nothing. He doesn't have a reputation for
winning all the time he does. He is not. He
has a ring and that's that's any other Final. He
was below five hundred for quite some time. No, he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
He was.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
He was considered one of the best coaches. I'm not
I'm not even hating on him, but I'm saying, you're
making like you gotta go get Phil Jackson.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
No, you gotta go get for an organization that it
won a championships is nineteen seventy three. This is not
the place where I want somebody who maybe might get there.
If I'm already gonna fire a coach who can't get there,
I don't want another coach who's gonna be on his
fourth job who can't get there. There's somebody available, Okay,
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there's somebody.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I'm okay with.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Somebody the available who's actually won a championship I'm with.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm saying I'm okay with the somebody. He's just you're
stilled in your search. But I don't feel like Mike
Malone is the guy he I don't think Mike Covention is.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
He's better than Jason Kidd. There's no if ands or
butts in my mind. Who's a better coach.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
He ain't did nothing and he got one ring.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Literallyson Kid has done nothing either in three jobs. Eight, seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox. Not like he had one
job and you're like, oh, youh not enough, Tom, He's
had three jobs already.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The relations with Brunson, I'm sure, is a massive part
of this with them.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
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Speaker 3 (09:30):
Former NBA All Star big man DeMarcus Cousins was involved
in an ugly scene in a Puerto Rican League basketball game.
He got into a verbal altercation with a gentleman sitting
on the sidelines. During the back and forth, Cousins grabs
at his private areas and said some profanity. The man
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on the sideline flips from the bird, DeMarcus flips the
bird back. Things get very heated, very confrontational. As DeMarcus
Cousins is getting escorted off the floor for this run in.
He had several dozens may in fact of Puerto Rican
basketball fans throwing beer, throwing food at him as he
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exited the court. At one point, it looked like he
tried to get into the stands to go at these fans,
but he was restrained by security before he was eventually
taken it into the locker room. But had there not
been that kind of security, we would have had Malice
in the Palace Part two.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's how bad it was.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And DeMarcus Cousins, I get it, you're not happy with
what went on in the arena, but you can't don't.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Don't. I don't care. You cannot and ot going to
the stands and fight fans. You can't. That's for security.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
That's for the people who it's their job to maintain
that going into stands. It was bad at the Palace
of the Malice of the Palace when they threw a
chair like I always go back to this into the stands.
God forbid, it didn' hit a three year old or
a five year old who was sitting there, like they
dodged a bullet. Can you imagine if something happened because
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they threw a chair in the stands and a kid
was hit with it, Like, you just can't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
It's not right. It's not fair. When you pay for
a ticket, that doesn't give you a right to be
vulgar and say racist stuff or you know or or
or mean spirit like it doesn't. But under any that's
just not your place. The same way fan shouldn't come
down on the court. Players should never, under any circumstance,
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go into the stands, point them out to security. This
guy that guy. We've seen Lebron do that and other
players where they've gotten people put out Russell Westbrook I
didn't agree with because they called them Westbrook like to
me that that that doesn't boord, that's sensitive. Like, I'm like,
I'm sorry, I have a right to say.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
West Brooks cash out tonight. I hit a bunch of
shots exactly. I mean, but.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
DeMarcus Cousin's trying to get into the st that's a
no no. Under any circumstance, any situation, you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
This is why it's a complicated conversation for me, because
I don't know if it was one hundred and fifty
years ago, two hundred years ago, but at maybe centuries ago.
Maybe it was a gladiator. Ah, you not at a time,
but I don't know what happened where it became, and
only that facet of life. It's okay for me to
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call you fill in the blank, N word, sexually explicit word,
a homophobic word, a racist word call, talk about your kids,
talk about your mom. I'm doing this to your wife.
It's it's the crazy, Like what other facet of life.
You and I do a show. If somebody called on
our show and said, hey, rob By the way Blake,
we would immediately hang up. If you and I were
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doing a live event somewhere and that happened, No one
does that. No one walks into an office throws popcorn
at people, ice from sodas, bear and people. And so
it gets to me where I get your points. But
it becomes complicated where why are these women, men and
women the only people expected to just take that? You know,
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I do news in the morning. I'm not sitting around
and nobody just comes in. I hate the way you
do your news and spit some my face or throws
the battery at me, like football players get batteries and
snowballs and things thrown at them. And my point is,
we love sports. It's highly violatal, it's impassioned. You're into
it as a player, and you're right on the edge,
right it's football violent. You're right on the edge of
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like organized chaos. You're mad, you blew this player, this
team just beat you and somebody's booing you, flicking you off,
and they throw a beer at your snowballer, and I'm
supposed to be the bigger man. Like, I don't get
why that's the case.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Because that's enough for you to handle. That's the same
thing in a dispute whatever. That's why you have police.
You don't just go handle it yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Ok, you do, right? No, No you don't. That's not
that's not the best way. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
And as a professional, as a professional representing a city,
a league, there's all kinds of stuff. You sign this,
you decide that this is what you want to do,
your idea of going in the stands. But you can
get the situation rectified. I'm not talking about somebody throwing
a bottle or b r or like trying to injure
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you that that's that person has to be dealt with.
You have to point that person out whatever. But you
can't be where you're trying to get in the stands
to have an altercation and open up your your not
only yourself team league. Who you swinging on? Do you
really know who that person is? Do you really know
who through the beer you? Do you see what I'm saying, like,
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there's a lot that goes with it. And I don't
think that's where you want to be. And I don't
think that's where you want to be as a league
where players are going in and beating up fans.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, I don't. I don't. I don't think that you
ever want to be there. I don't ever want to
be there. But I also want to go to work
where I don't have to deal with that. Right you
and I come here, I expected to be off. You
know what I'm saying, Well, or you be an adult.
You paid your ticket, come injoy the game. Call me Westbrook,
say boo, say you suck you whatever? Some my throwing
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up because you said west Man. That's what I'm saying.
That's gonna say. You're allowed to say, Westbrook is what
I'm saying. I'm saying now, I'm fine with that. I'm
gonna fine what you're saying. I suck, I can poo
and all that boo. I'm with all that. If it's
past that, David Alex, we might have to knock. If
you buck, we gotta knock if you book, if you're
throwing batteries at me, Rob, if you're throwing snowballs at
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the meat propt feels me, Dansen, that's right. Look a
Rob G. You're calling my kids dish, you're flicking me off,
you're grabbing my shoulder, you're throwing soud in my face.
Knock if you buck. I'm not that type of person.
Me Kelvin Washington, However you do you if this is
what I can't be mad at adult? Yes, you can
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just watch an adult you throw something at them. That
is not the is on me? Then? Is on me,
not the adults. Yes, that.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Is on you as a professional athlete to go to
security and say that, dude right there just did this
or that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's what you do. You don't have to go settle it.
My daughters do that, settle it. I'm a grown man, Alex.
Tell her what I'm doing. My daughter's gonna get to teacher, Rob,
That's what I'm doing. No, you won't be a professional.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
You won't be a professional athlete for long because that's
not the way it should be handled.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It never changed. Hey, hey Rod Parker, mister red jacket
person who really ain't here for security. He's just trying
to get some free tickets. Every now and again, that
guy right there, just threw a battery of snowball popcorn
beer at me. No, I've seen guy.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
There was a guy, a famous one where a guy
at the Giants came through a snowball. They had the camera,
they found out it was him and everything, and he
was ejected or whatever. I'm not saying that they shouldn't
be disciplined if they break the rules of being a fan,
and we've seen that, but that's not for every situation.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You're trying to go in the stands to fight.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
People, wouldn't you agree that would I wouldn't. I'm just
being honest. I don't know ra I would never go
in to fight them. No, I would just block them
on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
You know what I'm saying that you would do that,
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I'm a blocker not It's my Twitter, and I'll block
it if I walk to block it by walk to block.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
If I walk to, you would block to if they
tried to dish you. That's what I'm doing with me, Roger,
with me. I'm sitting here, look at me, minding my business,
and the matter hits me. You may fight nobody. Just listen.
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The greatest example is the mouse at the palace ron
our test because he was not met a yet try
to do the best thing ever? Do you not agree? No,
he didn't. He went like this, walked away from benas
laid on the scorts. No, but USA, I threw a
what a soda at him? A drink a beer? So
what what do you mean, robg come in here and
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throw that soda you're sipping on right now and Rob face, Oh,
I'm just saying. No, I would. I would just I
would go get the authorities and I.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Was you know, it would be more offensive to me
than him actually throwing a soda on me.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
The identity threw a ten dollars drink and wasted it.
Maybe that's why that that would be you, that would
be that would bother me more than that that would
be you. I agree with you. That would you throw
a ten dollars soda on somebody? Rob? I can't believe
you're trying to sell me on this. I'm that serious.
I would never. Rogie, where are you on this? Please
tell me? I'm not crazy. I'm not saying every single
thing in life, but there's a certain point where a
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professional you can't fight at all.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Ever, Rogie's with me I'm with Dub one down and
percent Rob one thousand percent. Now, I'm not a violent person,
so I'm not actively looking to fight somebody, but I'm
also not gonna not defend myself if somebody is gonna
throw objects at me like I'm some circus animal.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Right, that's the crazy. You're an adult. It's not a
ten year or twelve circus animal.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Cu I'm talking about fighting because somebody threw a drink
on you.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yes, yes, I'm okay. Watch this, Rob, Watch you if
you and I you back on your cheesecake. You're excited,
and we're sitting at cheesecake Factory and you're at the bar. Hey,
by the way, let me get up. What are you
drinking with Cosmo? Whatever you're thinking? You get your Cosmo
and some guy goes hey, Rob Parker, I hate your takes.
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I hate your show, and I really hate Aaron Rodgers.
And they throw a drink at you. Rob Parker's gonna
be knocking if he's bucking, and then I gotta go
hold my cheesecake and I gotta go help you.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
What I would do I this, I would call Scott
told him that our boss that he needs to come
over to Cheesecake Factory because we got to.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
You know, these listeners were listening long enough, they don't
buy it, right, and you got a little New York
and you.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Still because I represent Fox Sports Radio at all times?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Do you listen to this show? We barely represent Talk
Sports right, we barely hanging on rock Alex, alexwhear, are
you come on? That's my music? Just tasteful?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
How dare you think of scrimmaging and throwing these barbaric
hands on people for things that are just so trivic?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Alex? Simple? Would you want to squabble of a fact?
So would you like to disdain over tea and crumpets? Reason?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I wouldn't even breathe, no reason that you're not going
to give that god a satisfaction?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Or I wouldn't even ask his name. The best part
about this is I know for a fact of some
crazy I hate the odd couple. Through a drink in
Rob's face at Cheesecake Factory, Rob Parker will go full
Queens New York. So you know what I would do.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I would open my mouth to try to get as
much of it as the drink was coming.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
On.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Crazy Rob, your good friend fifty to be very upset
with your answer this question. That was a crazy we
say what I said, your good friend fifty cent.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
We really upset with you for this response.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
All right, Can I just say this on behalf of
double We got young kids who were both you know,
gonna grow up to be fine, worldly individuals.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
From ten years ago to ten years from now.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
These hands are raty for everyone, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
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Speaker 4 (21:48):
And you know what happened last night? Again, I tried
to tell you what happened. And the Windyana Pacers all
they do is win, win, win, and win some more.
And I know all you guys, including you, you had
the thunder and five or whatever it was. Everybody in
their uncle had the thunder and five. Never thought they'd
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win another game. Oh, they won their one game.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
They got lucky.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
They were only leading by point of for point three
of the game, right, and that was just a fluke.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And last night they got that.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I remember I kept saying to you, I'm waiting, I'm
waiting for them to have a good game, play a
good game, and they were at home. The bench feels good.
You got halla. Burton is aggressive. They don't you know,
I know, Oh we will. They limit shade, They make
make him work for his twenty shots. And he has
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a little bit of an off night and he had,
you know, more turnovers in the bakery six and they
were sloppy with the ball or whatever, and they were
able to capitalize. I think I saw the stat seventeen
fast break points in that game, nineteen in the first
two games total. So that's a big turnaround when you're
getting fast break and you're and the defense can't get back,
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and it's easy buckets, layups, dunks, that's what you want
on the fast break points. So all those good things.
But I'm here to tell you if you still can't
figure it out how the pacers are where they are,
don't try to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It won't be figured out.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
This is what happens when the slipper fits Cinderella. You
can't make sense of it. You can't look at it
and go, how how are they winning? What are they doing?
None of it makes sense. Rob g we talked about
this earlier, like the the percentage of them winning all
those games that they.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Won in the earlier rounds, and they were.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Underdogs one in seventy five million, and here they woh,
sounds like the lottery. They're right on the verge. They're
two wins away. I picked them in six, Wendyana and six.
Feel great about the pick. That was the game that
they needed. And you remember I told you those game
seven because they're not trying to go back to OKCE
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and try to win a game seven on I'm serious.
But can they win this thing now? Do they have
OKC on the heels. I know everybody think next game, okay,
s he's gonna win by twenty. That's their m This
team is different. And the stats and the figures and
the numbers they don't add up. That's how good the
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thunder have been all year. Can I give you another
team that was an all time great team that didn't
win a championship, that did not Yes, all time great.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Team that did not win a championship? Patriots, no, NBA, Yes, Warriors,
the Warriors who bablue moms. It didn't work on.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
That series didn't because they went up three to one
and guess what they did not win? They had lost
more than two games in a row all year.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
What did they do to lose the finals? They lost the.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Last three, including two at home and game seven. Okay,
this can happen when a team can put it together,
and Kelvin, I'm just gonna step up my last six.
Don't try to figure it out. Look at what you're watching.
I said it before that they're a team of destiny.
Every time I watch, I keep saying, yes, they're getting
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contributions from people. It's one off. It won't happen again,
but they don't need it to happen again. It need
to happen in this game. They get to win in
game three, a huge win after getting beat up in
game two, and okay, see.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Let's talk about how he was just win.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Was I'm going back to Windy yaa windy YadA hero.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I come, I tell you what, man? So the massive
the severity of that game, right, Game three winners go
on to win eighty percent of the time we win
a series, So that game was huge. Now obviously really
is that the number? Eighty percent of people who win
game three win that series? So that was huge. Now,
(26:03):
obviously twenty percent is still a large chunk of folks
who've had a shot at winning it. You just brought
up one down three to one and three one never
happening in the finals, right, it still hasn't happened. So
a couple of things to note. I actually and to
the point now where I go, I throw my hands
in the air, and that goes for a lot of
this postseason because we had this postseason so many teams,
(26:24):
even the Knicks. What are the Knicks doing being the
Celtics down twenty twice in Boston and they come back
and win. This has been the wildest playoffs. The Knicks
do that to the Pistons where they going to twenty
zero run and when the game when we got the
Pacers going on beating Cleveland and Cleveland, and in Cleveland
had set a franchise record and wins like nothing is
made since its entire postseason, and now the Pacers are
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doing things that are improbable. You start to look at
some more of these numbers and things, it just it's
actually laughable. As you were mentioning, list, look at this
number right here. They are now nine and one in
clutch time games, which this season and the most clutch
wins in a single postseason since the Heat did it
back in the bubble when they were eleven and three.
So whenever they're in these clutch games, they just win it.
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And you know what has helped them this series. They
keep winning the fourth quarter. So this team has done
things they're not supposed to do. They keep coming back
from when down. They've been down fifteen points in multiple
games and have come back to win those games. This
has made no sense. The only thing I will say
that has made since and I think we just ignored
and I brought this up a bunch, but they've been
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the second best team in the NBA since January first.
There you go, there is another forty four and sixteen.
People make it like they came out of nowhere since
January first, and you and I joked and laughed. We
gave them credit. Yo, we apologized, we didn't talk about you,
We didn't give you any love. And you know who
has been the best team since January first, The Oklahoma
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City Thunder. It's the only team ahead of them. So
the NBA has the two best teams since the turn
of the year. In the NBA Finals, forty four in
sixteen is crazy. So I just think, again, you look
at this Pacer team. They got back to their identity,
putting pace, they got aggressive, and they got a bunch
of contributions from guys on the bench. And really, maybe
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it's no secret that they're this good. And maybe I've
underestimated my Still I picked the thunder the wins. I'm
riding this out. But maybe we've underestimated them because they
don't have superstars and they weren't sexy. But they've been
incredible this all since again January first, forty four and sixteen,
and here we go.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
They're Buster Douglas knocking down, beating Mike Tyson. Their Kurt
Warner going from bagging groceries to then winning the Super
Bowl that same year he was bagging groceries. They're the
two thousand and three Marlins had no business winning the
World Series, the two thousand and four Pistons beating the Lakers,
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who had won three championships in four years coming into
that finals. I mean, that's who they are. I really,
I'm starting to look at him and I'm starting to
say team of Destiny, Cinderella team. But they have all
the makings of all these other themes. That we're talking
about one quick, one quick thing.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Though, I don't are we overstating the Cinderella win. They've
went to the Eastern College Finals last year, not the Thunder.
Yeah you know what I mean. They like, they've been
to the Eastern College Finals. They're right back. So maybe
we just ignored them. Maybe we just started flew because
they started off rough this season.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
But I'll get I'll give you this. Okay, here's why
it's big if they do win. The longest odds of
winning an NBA five ever, Like, that's how big. The
odds were sixty six to one, So that's telling you,
like nobody believed that they had a shot. That's why
(29:47):
you can say Destiny and Cinderella's still sixty six to one.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
As a current I was six and a half spread
in favor of the Thunder and it was on the road.
It's the biggest road spread ever since like ninety one
or something like that.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Could we just saw this last game, it was five
and a half. Remember I was like, oh five, I'm taking.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I think Vega. You can keep looking at it saying
the Thunder is supposed to win. The last point for me,
The Thunder are six and oh after a loss or
five and oh, I'm sorry trying to go six and
oh they're five and oh, guess who else is five
and oh after a loss? The Pacers. So these two
teams are just so evenly matched that I think, including myself,
maybe underestimated. When you really look at the numbers and
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the data, it says that the Pacers are really this good.
Both teams five and oh after loss the Thunder, Now
is their job to go six and oh,
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Guys.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
You talked about it big story over the weekend that
bled over into today. It was reported on Friday evening
by Mark Stein, friend of the show, that the New
York Knicks were planning on reaching out to the Dallas
Mavericks about interviewing Jason Kidd for their vacant head coaching position,
that he's one of the guys that they've targeted to
(00:45):
replace Tom Thibodeaux. Flash forward to Monday morning. ESPN's Brian
Windhor said on television that the feeling is mutual that
if Jason Kidd were to be granted permission to speak
with the Knicks, he would love to have that conversation
about being the next guy in Gotham.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I got news for you. Most if you're the Knicks,
don't do it. Don't do it. The Knicks need to
be childless. They don't need a kid on the bench.
I'm telling you, Jason Kidd has had ample opportunity. He's
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had nothing but teams filled with stars, the Nets, KG,
Paul Pierce, Joe Johnson. What they get nada? He had
Giannis and Milwaukee. What did he get Nada? In Dallas
(01:44):
Luca and Kyrie Nada. And now you want to send
him to the Knicks. Don't do it, Knicks. He's at fourth,
This will be his fourth team with star players.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
His basket is empty and as a hole in it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Don't do it.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Go get you a coach that's a proven winner, Michael Malone.
Go get Michael Malone. Stop hoping and wishing. And if
you're gonna do this, you could have kept Timbs. If
you're gonna do it, he has the same thing kid.
Tims hasn't won. Kid hasn't won. And guess what, Jason
(02:26):
Kidd is a better players in his coaching career. This
would be a mistake. No, kid, I wouldn't do it.
I think the Knicks would be crazy. Kelvin. I just
Jason Kid's been around for a long time. I'm not
saying that he can't coach. But if you're gonna make
(02:48):
such a move, go get me somebody who's done it,
been there, done that has a resume that you can
look at and go, dude, this guy knows what it
takes to win a championship and that's what the Knicks
are looking for.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
The one area I agree with is the if you're
gonna get rid of Tibbs, you think you're going to
get a super next level up guy. And the only
word a couple of points where I disagree with you. One,
I think you're you're selling Jason kids short. In a
couple areas. You brought up that Nets team that was
a geriatric team. He was the same age as KG
(03:20):
Paul Pierson, all them. They were as geriatric old team,
well past their Celtic time. That's why they all went
to the Nets. That was the end of the run
for them. Now they should have never traded for them.
But obviously he's not the general manager president of the team,
but so that team was too old to say. He
didn't win with them, and then with the Bucks they
were heading in the right direction and they just chose
to get rid of Jason kidds Oh, he was so
(03:42):
good of him, and so he goes to the mass
and he gets to the NBA Finals, and you're feeling
good about the situation going in this year. You're feeling like,
all right, if guys are healthy, we got a shot,
we got Luca, we got Kyrie and this, we got
some other pieces. We got Lively. And then they decide
to trade him Luca without confront having consultation with Kid,
(04:05):
letting him in on it. So obviously it's a it's
a coach.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
You're not a front office person, right, but you usually
talk to your coach, especially a guy that massive.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Maybe it's a middle of the night eighth man, nineteenth
man on the bench. I get that Lucas superstar. He's
in those conversations. Now, if you're the nixt part of
the reason why you want to go get Jason Kidd
is because you want to go get in because of
his relationship with Jayalen Brunton. You say, all right, they
seem to be reports are they're still very close for
good friends, and he obviously is a point guard who
(04:34):
has worked with other guards, and you think maybe he
can get the best out of Jaylen Brunston because Jayleen
Brunton at this point is probably a top ten player,
and now you can get the best out of him
to work with Carl Anthony Towns, and you say, hey,
we've got some talent in this thing. And I think
another reason why this could work is because the Eastern
Conference is the lesser conference when it comes to the two.
So I think you're saying, hey, that's the case, you're
(04:55):
gonna suck with Tims, right whatever with that, that logic
doesn't work for whatever reason, they don't. I want to
stick with Tims. I said that they could have just
took with TIBs. No, TIBs didn't deserve to be there.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
But I don't get where the Jason Kidd fascination comes in.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I really don't.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
But this is not his first job, or you're like
you brought it up, Oh yeah, maybe, or whatever like
you said, it's like Manty Williams when he went to
the Pistons, right, Oh, they paid him a ton of money.
Let's go get Minty Williams. They went to the finals, money,
went to the final. Awful, he didn't want the job,
took the money and it wound up being a total disaster. Right,
(05:30):
Just because Monty Williams went to the finals, with the Suns.
He actually if you look at what went on there,
they didn't want him.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That's why he was available.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
They had gone to the finals, they were up too
old and they didn't want another game. Right, How did
they go from winning two games the first two games
of the finals to be in Prisada, non Grada in Phoenix.
That's all I'm saying, like, don't fall for that. And
no one's gonna be knocking down Minty Williams door right
now at this point, not after one went to that money.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
He made an effort, didn't do anything with it. But
I think the next you're looking at Jason Kid again
as a really good coach who has the ability to
have already has a relationship with Jaylen Brunson, who can
maybe get Jaylen Brunson to that next level. You see
what the year two experiment with Karl Anthony Townsend Jaylen
Brunson is. We haven't seen that. This was the first
year they're trying to find their way. They got all
the way to the game in half of the finals.
So now you see what you got there. And again
(06:16):
I mentioned the Eastern Conference final. Boston ain't gonna be
Boston right now. We know that Garland's gonna be out
another four to five months with Cleveland, so you can
you're missing some pieces there. And then obviously there's some
teams that are middling with will the Pistons be will
the Pacers be this good again? And you feel like
you're right there in the mix if you're the Knicks
and you feel like he might be able to be
that missing piece as long as you do your job
(06:37):
over the summer and maybe fine fill out the ross
a little bit more So. I think Jason Kidd is
highly interested because I think he is love is loss
with that new ownership, and they're the Nico Harrison also
with the Mavericks. So I see why Jason Kidd is
open to this, this new opperation. I don't see why
the Knicks would be That's what I'm talking about. The
Knicks are the ones that our Jo Jason Kidd people
(06:59):
are always interested.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Oh somebody wants me. Oh there's more money, Oh it's
a bigger market. I understand why Jason Kidd would be interested.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Whatever.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I'm just stay in Dallas, Come on Dallas or New York.
I mean, I don't think okay, I'm saying Dallas Okay,
but that doesn't mean I'm just saying, like somebody wants
you and they're gonna offer you more money in a
bigger contract. Okay, Like that's that's what you do if
you're a coach. He played in New Jersey, he was
a coach at the NATS. I mean, he knows what
it is is bigger. Everything is bigger. But if I'm
(07:29):
the Knicks, I'm not interested.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But what I understand, Mike Malone won a championship. But
I don't get Mike Malone as this amazing coach quite
as you do. He's a good coach. I have nothing
negative and Jason Kidd is not. But I'm saying, and Jason, kids,
what what give me? What I'm gonna tell you? If
you feel like that's your guy, if you feel like
he has a relationship with Jellen Brunton, if you feel
(07:50):
like he's the one that can get Brunton to have
be locked his step for the next few years. But
I Mike Malone did nothing, want to ring did nothing
like he's done nothing. He doesn't have a reputation for
winning all the time he does. He is not. He
has a ring and that's that's any other Final. He
was below five hundred for quite some time. No, he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
He was.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
He was considered one of the best coaches. I'm not
I'm not even hating on him, but I'm saying, you're
making like you gotta go get Phil Jackson.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
No, you gotta go get for an organization that it
won a championships is nineteen seventy three. This is not
the place where I want somebody who maybe might get there.
If I'm already gonna fire a coach who can't get there,
I don't want another coach who's gonna be on his
fourth job who can't get there. There's somebody available, Okay,
(08:41):
there's somebody.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I'm okay with.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Somebody the available who's actually won a championship I'm with.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm saying I'm okay with the somebody. He's just you're
stilled in your search. But I don't feel like Mike
Malone is the guy he I don't think Mike Covention is.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
He's better than Jason Kidd. There's no if ands or
butts in my mind. Who's a better coach.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
He ain't did nothing and he got one ring.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Literallyson Kid has done nothing either in three jobs. Eight, seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox. Not like he had one
job and you're like, oh, youh not enough, Tom, He's
had three jobs already.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The relations with Brunson, I'm sure, is a massive part
of this with them.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
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Speaker 3 (09:30):
Former NBA All Star big man DeMarcus Cousins was involved
in an ugly scene in a Puerto Rican League basketball game.
He got into a verbal altercation with a gentleman sitting
on the sidelines. During the back and forth, Cousins grabs
at his private areas and said some profanity. The man
(09:51):
on the sideline flips from the bird, DeMarcus flips the
bird back. Things get very heated, very confrontational. As DeMarcus
Cousins is getting escorted off the floor for this run in.
He had several dozens may in fact of Puerto Rican
basketball fans throwing beer, throwing food at him as he
(10:14):
exited the court. At one point, it looked like he
tried to get into the stands to go at these fans,
but he was restrained by security before he was eventually
taken it into the locker room. But had there not
been that kind of security, we would have had Malice
in the Palace Part two.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's how bad it was.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
And DeMarcus Cousins, I get it, you're not happy with
what went on in the arena, but you can't don't.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Don't. I don't care. You cannot and ot going to
the stands and fight fans. You can't. That's for security.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
That's for the people who it's their job to maintain
that going into stands. It was bad at the Palace
of the Malice of the Palace when they threw a
chair like I always go back to this into the stands.
God forbid, it didn' hit a three year old or
a five year old who was sitting there, like they
dodged a bullet. Can you imagine if something happened because
(11:11):
they threw a chair in the stands and a kid
was hit with it, Like, you just can't do it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
It's not right. It's not fair. When you pay for
a ticket, that doesn't give you a right to be
vulgar and say racist stuff or you know or or
or mean spirit like it doesn't. But under any that's
just not your place. The same way fan shouldn't come
down on the court. Players should never, under any circumstance,
(11:42):
go into the stands, point them out to security. This
guy that guy. We've seen Lebron do that and other
players where they've gotten people put out Russell Westbrook I
didn't agree with because they called them Westbrook like to
me that that that doesn't boord, that's sensitive. Like, I'm like,
I'm sorry, I have a right to say.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
West Brooks cash out tonight. I hit a bunch of
shots exactly. I mean, but.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
DeMarcus Cousin's trying to get into the st that's a
no no. Under any circumstance, any situation, you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
This is why it's a complicated conversation for me, because
I don't know if it was one hundred and fifty
years ago, two hundred years ago, but at maybe centuries ago.
Maybe it was a gladiator. Ah, you not at a time,
but I don't know what happened where it became, and
only that facet of life. It's okay for me to
(12:34):
call you fill in the blank, N word, sexually explicit word,
a homophobic word, a racist word call, talk about your kids,
talk about your mom. I'm doing this to your wife.
It's it's the crazy, Like what other facet of life.
You and I do a show. If somebody called on
our show and said, hey, rob By the way Blake,
we would immediately hang up. If you and I were
(12:55):
doing a live event somewhere and that happened, No one
does that. No one walks into an office throws popcorn
at people, ice from sodas, bear and people. And so
it gets to me where I get your points. But
it becomes complicated where why are these women, men and
women the only people expected to just take that? You know,
(13:15):
I do news in the morning. I'm not sitting around
and nobody just comes in. I hate the way you
do your news and spit some my face or throws
the battery at me, like football players get batteries and
snowballs and things thrown at them. And my point is,
we love sports. It's highly violatal, it's impassioned. You're into
it as a player, and you're right on the edge,
right it's football violent. You're right on the edge of
(13:37):
like organized chaos. You're mad, you blew this player, this
team just beat you and somebody's booing you, flicking you off,
and they throw a beer at your snowballer, and I'm
supposed to be the bigger man. Like, I don't get
why that's the case.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Because that's enough for you to handle. That's the same
thing in a dispute whatever. That's why you have police.
You don't just go handle it yourself.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Ok, you do, right? No, No you don't. That's not
that's not the best way. But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
And as a professional, as a professional representing a city,
a league, there's all kinds of stuff. You sign this,
you decide that this is what you want to do,
your idea of going in the stands. But you can
get the situation rectified. I'm not talking about somebody throwing
a bottle or b r or like trying to injure
(14:28):
you that that's that person has to be dealt with.
You have to point that person out whatever. But you
can't be where you're trying to get in the stands
to have an altercation and open up your your not
only yourself team league. Who you swinging on? Do you
really know who that person is? Do you really know
who through the beer you? Do you see what I'm saying, like,
(14:50):
there's a lot that goes with it. And I don't
think that's where you want to be. And I don't
think that's where you want to be as a league
where players are going in and beating up fans.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, I don't. I don't. I don't think that you
ever want to be there. I don't ever want to
be there. But I also want to go to work
where I don't have to deal with that. Right you
and I come here, I expected to be off. You
know what I'm saying, Well, or you be an adult.
You paid your ticket, come injoy the game. Call me Westbrook,
say boo, say you suck you whatever? Some my throwing
(15:23):
up because you said west Man. That's what I'm saying.
That's gonna say. You're allowed to say, Westbrook is what
I'm saying. I'm saying now, I'm fine with that. I'm
gonna fine what you're saying. I suck, I can poo
and all that boo. I'm with all that. If it's
past that, David Alex, we might have to knock. If
you buck, we gotta knock if you book, if you're
throwing batteries at me, Rob, if you're throwing snowballs at
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the meat propt feels me, Dansen, that's right. Look a
Rob G. You're calling my kids dish, you're flicking me off,
you're grabbing my shoulder, you're throwing soud in my face.
Knock if you buck. I'm not that type of person.
Me Kelvin Washington, However you do you if this is
what I can't be mad at adult? Yes, you can
(16:07):
just watch an adult you throw something at them. That
is not the is on me? Then? Is on me,
not the adults. Yes, that.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Is on you as a professional athlete to go to
security and say that, dude right there just did this
or that.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's what you do. You don't have to go settle it.
My daughters do that, settle it. I'm a grown man, Alex.
Tell her what I'm doing. My daughter's gonna get to teacher, Rob,
That's what I'm doing. No, you won't be a professional.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
You won't be a professional athlete for long because that's
not the way it should be handled.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
It never changed. Hey, hey Rod Parker, mister red jacket
person who really ain't here for security. He's just trying
to get some free tickets. Every now and again, that
guy right there, just threw a battery of snowball popcorn
beer at me. No, I've seen guy.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
There was a guy, a famous one where a guy
at the Giants came through a snowball. They had the camera,
they found out it was him and everything, and he
was ejected or whatever. I'm not saying that they shouldn't
be disciplined if they break the rules of being a fan,
and we've seen that, but that's not for every situation.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
You're trying to go in the stands to fight.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
People, wouldn't you agree that would I wouldn't. I'm just
being honest. I don't know ra I would never go
in to fight them. No, I would just block them
on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
You know what I'm saying that you would do that,
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I'm a blocker not It's my Twitter, and I'll block
it if I walk to block it by walk to block.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
If I walk to, you would block to if they
tried to dish you. That's what I'm doing with me, Roger,
with me. I'm sitting here, look at me, minding my business,
and the matter hits me. You may fight nobody. Just listen.
(18:00):
The greatest example is the mouse at the palace ron
our test because he was not met a yet try
to do the best thing ever? Do you not agree? No,
he didn't. He went like this, walked away from benas
laid on the scorts. No, but USA, I threw a
what a soda at him? A drink a beer? So
what what do you mean, robg come in here and
(18:22):
throw that soda you're sipping on right now and Rob face, Oh,
I'm just saying. No, I would. I would just I
would go get the authorities and I.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
Was you know, it would be more offensive to me
than him actually throwing a soda on me.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
The identity threw a ten dollars drink and wasted it.
Maybe that's why that that would be you, that would
be that would bother me more than that that would
be you. I agree with you. That would you throw
a ten dollars soda on somebody? Rob? I can't believe
you're trying to sell me on this. I'm that serious.
I would never. Rogie, where are you on this? Please
tell me? I'm not crazy. I'm not saying every single
thing in life, but there's a certain point where a
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professional you can't fight at all.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Ever, Rogie's with me I'm with Dub one down and
percent Rob one thousand percent. Now, I'm not a violent person,
so I'm not actively looking to fight somebody, but I'm
also not gonna not defend myself if somebody is gonna
throw objects at me like I'm some circus animal.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Right, that's the crazy. You're an adult. It's not a
ten year or twelve circus animal.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Cu I'm talking about fighting because somebody threw a drink
on you.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yes, yes, I'm okay. Watch this, Rob, Watch you if
you and I you back on your cheesecake. You're excited,
and we're sitting at cheesecake Factory and you're at the bar. Hey,
by the way, let me get up. What are you
drinking with Cosmo? Whatever you're thinking? You get your Cosmo
and some guy goes hey, Rob Parker, I hate your takes.
(19:45):
I hate your show, and I really hate Aaron Rodgers.
And they throw a drink at you. Rob Parker's gonna
be knocking if he's bucking, and then I gotta go
hold my cheesecake and I gotta go help you.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
What I would do I this, I would call Scott
told him that our boss that he needs to come
over to Cheesecake Factory because we got to.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
You know, these listeners were listening long enough, they don't
buy it, right, and you got a little New York
and you.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Still because I represent Fox Sports Radio at all times?
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Do you listen to this show? We barely represent Talk
Sports right, we barely hanging on rock Alex, alexwhear, are
you come on? That's my music? Just tasteful?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
How dare you think of scrimmaging and throwing these barbaric
hands on people for things that are just so trivic?
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Alex? Simple? Would you want to squabble of a fact?
So would you like to disdain over tea and crumpets? Reason?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I wouldn't even breathe, no reason that you're not going
to give that god a satisfaction?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Or I wouldn't even ask his name. The best part
about this is I know for a fact of some
crazy I hate the odd couple. Through a drink in
Rob's face at Cheesecake Factory, Rob Parker will go full
Queens New York. So you know what I would do.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I would open my mouth to try to get as
much of it as the drink was coming.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
On.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Crazy Rob, your good friend fifty to be very upset
with your answer this question. That was a crazy we
say what I said, your good friend fifty cent.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
We really upset with you for this response.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
All right, Can I just say this on behalf of
double We got young kids who were both you know,
gonna grow up to be fine, worldly individuals.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
From ten years ago to ten years from now.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
These hands are raty for everyone, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
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Speaker 4 (21:48):
And you know what happened last night? Again, I tried
to tell you what happened. And the Windyana Pacers all
they do is win, win, win, and win some more.
And I know all you guys, including you, you had
the thunder and five or whatever it was. Everybody in
their uncle had the thunder and five. Never thought they'd
(22:08):
win another game. Oh, they won their one game.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
They got lucky.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
They were only leading by point of for point three
of the game, right, and that was just a fluke.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And last night they got that.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
I remember I kept saying to you, I'm waiting, I'm
waiting for them to have a good game, play a
good game, and they were at home. The bench feels good.
You got halla. Burton is aggressive. They don't you know,
I know, Oh we will. They limit shade, They make
make him work for his twenty shots. And he has
(22:40):
a little bit of an off night and he had,
you know, more turnovers in the bakery six and they
were sloppy with the ball or whatever, and they were
able to capitalize. I think I saw the stat seventeen
fast break points in that game, nineteen in the first
two games total. So that's a big turnaround when you're
getting fast break and you're and the defense can't get back,
(23:01):
and it's easy buckets, layups, dunks, that's what you want
on the fast break points. So all those good things.
But I'm here to tell you if you still can't
figure it out how the pacers are where they are,
don't try to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
It won't be figured out.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
This is what happens when the slipper fits Cinderella. You
can't make sense of it. You can't look at it
and go, how how are they winning? What are they doing?
None of it makes sense. Rob g we talked about
this earlier, like the the percentage of them winning all
those games that they.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Won in the earlier rounds, and they were.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Underdogs one in seventy five million, and here they woh,
sounds like the lottery. They're right on the verge. They're
two wins away. I picked them in six, Wendyana and six.
Feel great about the pick. That was the game that
they needed. And you remember I told you those game
seven because they're not trying to go back to OKCE
(24:09):
and try to win a game seven on I'm serious.
But can they win this thing now? Do they have
OKC on the heels. I know everybody think next game, okay,
s he's gonna win by twenty. That's their m This
team is different. And the stats and the figures and
the numbers they don't add up. That's how good the
(24:30):
thunder have been all year. Can I give you another
team that was an all time great team that didn't
win a championship, that did not Yes, all time great.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Team that did not win a championship? Patriots, no, NBA, Yes, Warriors,
the Warriors who bablue moms. It didn't work on.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
That series didn't because they went up three to one
and guess what they did not win? They had lost
more than two games in a row all year.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
What did they do to lose the finals? They lost the.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Last three, including two at home and game seven. Okay,
this can happen when a team can put it together,
and Kelvin, I'm just gonna step up my last six.
Don't try to figure it out. Look at what you're watching.
I said it before that they're a team of destiny.
Every time I watch, I keep saying, yes, they're getting
(25:24):
contributions from people. It's one off. It won't happen again,
but they don't need it to happen again. It need
to happen in this game. They get to win in
game three, a huge win after getting beat up in
game two, and okay, see.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Let's talk about how he was just win.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Was I'm going back to Windy yaa windy YadA hero.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I come, I tell you what, man? So the massive
the severity of that game, right, Game three winners go
on to win eighty percent of the time we win
a series, So that game was huge. Now obviously really
is that the number? Eighty percent of people who win
game three win that series? So that was huge. Now,
(26:03):
obviously twenty percent is still a large chunk of folks
who've had a shot at winning it. You just brought
up one down three to one and three one never
happening in the finals, right, it still hasn't happened. So
a couple of things to note. I actually and to
the point now where I go, I throw my hands
in the air, and that goes for a lot of
this postseason because we had this postseason so many teams,
(26:24):
even the Knicks. What are the Knicks doing being the
Celtics down twenty twice in Boston and they come back
and win. This has been the wildest playoffs. The Knicks
do that to the Pistons where they going to twenty
zero run and when the game when we got the
Pacers going on beating Cleveland and Cleveland, and in Cleveland
had set a franchise record and wins like nothing is
made since its entire postseason, and now the Pacers are
(26:47):
doing things that are improbable. You start to look at
some more of these numbers and things, it just it's
actually laughable. As you were mentioning, list, look at this
number right here. They are now nine and one in
clutch time games, which this season and the most clutch
wins in a single postseason since the Heat did it
back in the bubble when they were eleven and three.
So whenever they're in these clutch games, they just win it.
(27:09):
And you know what has helped them this series. They
keep winning the fourth quarter. So this team has done
things they're not supposed to do. They keep coming back
from when down. They've been down fifteen points in multiple
games and have come back to win those games. This
has made no sense. The only thing I will say
that has made since and I think we just ignored
and I brought this up a bunch, but they've been
(27:30):
the second best team in the NBA since January first.
There you go, there is another forty four and sixteen.
People make it like they came out of nowhere since
January first, and you and I joked and laughed. We
gave them credit. Yo, we apologized, we didn't talk about you,
We didn't give you any love. And you know who
has been the best team since January first, The Oklahoma
(27:51):
City Thunder. It's the only team ahead of them. So
the NBA has the two best teams since the turn
of the year. In the NBA Finals, forty four in
sixteen is crazy. So I just think, again, you look
at this Pacer team. They got back to their identity,
putting pace, they got aggressive, and they got a bunch
of contributions from guys on the bench. And really, maybe
(28:12):
it's no secret that they're this good. And maybe I've
underestimated my Still I picked the thunder the wins. I'm
riding this out. But maybe we've underestimated them because they
don't have superstars and they weren't sexy. But they've been
incredible this all since again January first, forty four and sixteen,
and here we go.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
They're Buster Douglas knocking down, beating Mike Tyson. Their Kurt
Warner going from bagging groceries to then winning the Super
Bowl that same year he was bagging groceries. They're the
two thousand and three Marlins had no business winning the
World Series, the two thousand and four Pistons beating the Lakers,
(28:49):
who had won three championships in four years coming into
that finals. I mean, that's who they are. I really,
I'm starting to look at him and I'm starting to
say team of Destiny, Cinderella team. But they have all
the makings of all these other themes. That we're talking
about one quick, one quick thing.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Though, I don't are we overstating the Cinderella win. They've
went to the Eastern College Finals last year, not the Thunder.
Yeah you know what I mean. They like, they've been
to the Eastern College Finals. They're right back. So maybe
we just ignored them. Maybe we just started flew because
they started off rough this season.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
But I'll get I'll give you this. Okay, here's why
it's big if they do win. The longest odds of
winning an NBA five ever, Like, that's how big. The
odds were sixty six to one, So that's telling you,
like nobody believed that they had a shot. That's why
(29:47):
you can say Destiny and Cinderella's still sixty six to one.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
As a current I was six and a half spread
in favor of the Thunder and it was on the road.
It's the biggest road spread ever since like ninety one
or something like that.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Could we just saw this last game, it was five
and a half. Remember I was like, oh five, I'm taking.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
I think Vega. You can keep looking at it saying
the Thunder is supposed to win. The last point for me,
The Thunder are six and oh after a loss or
five and oh, I'm sorry trying to go six and
oh they're five and oh, guess who else is five
and oh after a loss? The Pacers. So these two
teams are just so evenly matched that I think, including myself,
maybe underestimated. When you really look at the numbers and
(30:27):
the data, it says that the Pacers are really this good.
Both teams five and oh after loss the Thunder, Now
is their job to go six and oh,
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