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August 5, 2024 39 mins

FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Martin Weiss is in for Rob, and he and Chris discuss Draymond Green’s assertion that the 2024 Team USA Basketball team would steamroll the 1992 Dream Team and tell us why Noah Lyles’ 100m final in the Olympics was the greatest foot race they’ve ever seen. Plus, former All-NBA guard Michael Redd swings by to discuss how the 2024 Team USA squad would matchup with the 1992 Dream Team, how the overall style of play in America has evolved over the last thirty years, what made his 2008 Redeem Team so special and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 5 (01:13):
Even sayings Rob Parker.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
So keep it locked here for the next three hours
on Fox Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app, or serious XM
Channel eighty three. We got Michael red the former NBA
All Star guard and former Olympian and was a member
of the Redeem Team.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
He will join us at the bottom of this hour, but.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
In place of Rob Parker, as I mentioned a moment ago,
mister Martin Weiss, Martin, what's up man?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Man? Life is good, Chris. How are you? How are you?

Speaker 5 (01:49):
I'm doing well. I'm waiting to see you on the screen.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I'm figuring it out, getting it together.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
There you go, there you go. Yeah, so everything is
good with you?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, just you know, just got back from NABJ.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Yeah, how was listener? Microphone the right way? There we go.
It was interesting, Chris, as.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
You know interesting? Oh yeah, I know, yeah, yeah, NABJ.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
You know, first I thought you to get the elephant
out of the room.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
I thought you nailed it when you tweeted about it
about Trump having his appearance on Wednesday.

Speaker 7 (02:18):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
I told my dad and who was like, why would
they do this?

Speaker 6 (02:21):
Like it'd be different if it was a National Association
of Black dentists or Black accountants.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Right, it's not.

Speaker 6 (02:27):
You're absolutely right, National Association of Black journalist journalists.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
You should be able to sit out with anybody. I mean, really,
that's like news.

Speaker 7 (02:34):
Right.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
If there's ever a time to sit there and question someone,
it's probably be in front of a room of trained
journalists whose job it is to question people.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
So that was cool.

Speaker 6 (02:44):
The other thing that was interesting, uh Lollapalooza went on
at the same time. So while you're walking around and
you see your various black sports luminaries and executives dressed,
you know, in what I call sometimes the adult prom
you know, and all the suits that they can't wear
it to work. We also I also helped scantily clad

(03:06):
woman in a bikini with butterfly wings and glitter on
her eyelashes, directed her to the bathroom and she was
lost walking through the hotel because there was a ton
of people that were here for this music massive music
concert that happened right across the street.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
But uh and then finally outside of that being my
dad lives like ten minutes away from where we were,
so I spent a lot of time hanging out with
him and that was always good.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
So all right, well go sounds fun.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
I everybody, of course saw the situation with Donald Trump,
and uh, yeah, like you said, journalists, he could be
the he's a former president obviously, but he could be
the next president.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
And so you you should be able to how.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
You're gonna be a journalistic organization and not be able
to question him.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Checking, challenging, you know, make it tough.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
And I thought I didn't see the whole thing, bits
and pieces I saw.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
He didn't stay the whole thing either, Oh he did.
I didn't know he broke out. He was.

Speaker 6 (04:03):
It was supposed to be an hour long, an hour
late due to conflicting us.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Knew that, but it only lasted thirty five minutes.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
Okay, all right, well we're here to talk sports, so
we will move on to that. But first, the our
couple crew, the super producer Rob g is in the
house on the updates, our man Steve the Seger on
social media, the great Elijah Sabuna, and on the one
and two's none other than.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Mary Mary.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Right.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
All right, well, uh let's get into it. So Team
USA they play tomorrow, is it tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Wednesday? Tomorrow? Like uh, Eastern I believe.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah, So they play Brazil tomorrow, and these games count.
They losing your out, correct, yes, yeah, losing your and
so the one and done portion is upon us.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
We all, of course expect Team USA to.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
Win, and Draymond Green certainly expects them to win. Not
only did he say they're going to win these Olympics
but he said that they would route then nineteen ninety
two dream Team, here's Draymond.

Speaker 8 (05:25):
This twenty twenty fourteen are definitely drawing those comparisons to
the dream Team, And quite frankly, I'm taking the twenty
fourteen seven days a week. I think the twenty twenty
fourteen beats the dream Team five out of seven games.
How to get the dream Team some respect? They got goats,
we get it, they got Hall of Famers, we get it.

(05:47):
I just think the versatility on that team, the star power,
the score.

Speaker 5 (05:52):
I don't think the dream Team can do anything with that. Now,
if the.

Speaker 8 (05:56):
Dream Team has Shock on it and not Christian Lehner,
be a different story.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
And that's why I don't think the dream Team could
come close. I wouldn't say come close.

Speaker 8 (06:06):
The ten point loss, double digits a boy, twenty twenty
fourteen USA, you.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Can book it all right, you can have the honors first.
Mister Mardwis, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
I tend to it.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
I think he is a little he basically saying a
five game series, five out of seven. You know, if
that's the equivalent, i'd say of four to one.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Yeah, I think that's not necessarily true. I think that
if you look at the twenty twenty four team, I
would pick them.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'd have them as a slight favorite, but it would
just be slight.

Speaker 6 (06:36):
And that's also depending on in this hypothetical scenario when
the game is played, If the game is played in
twenty twenty four, I'd had them as a little bit
of a lesser favorite, because then you would have guys
like Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, and so on who were
on the original Dream Team. They would be more adept
to shooting the three pointer, they'd be more adept to
defending the three pointer. And with think really style of

(06:59):
play would ruin this opportunity for the ninety two team
if they just were dropped in in twenty twenty four,
if they were dropped into nineteen ninety two and Stephen
Lebron and so on had to adjust to the way
that the nineties basketball was played, I still have them
as slight favorites, but not nearly No four to one,
you know, five games in a seven game series. Nah,

(07:20):
I I couldn't go there, because if you look at
the original Dream Team, they have much better isolation players
in my opinion, then the twenty twenty four team does
with the Michael Jordan leading that Dream Team. I also
think that his point about Shaq is one that's that's
a good one, yep, that I think if Shaq was
on the team. I don't know who you know, Joe

(07:42):
Ellenbiid what he gives up forty pounds to what Shaq was,
and Shaq had ballerina feet and em Beid wants to shoot,
you know, free throw line jumpers anyway, so he would
have to pound with him in the post, and we
see how and b would do it against that.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
I don't think it would be very well.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
But he's just talking a little bit too with his
chest here and saying that this team would most definitely.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Beat the Dream Team. I think it would be a
much closer game.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah, I here's the advantage that the twenty twenty fourteen
would have because I would say, all these players in
their prime. It's still a great game if they're all
in their prime, or a great series since he put
it in the series. But the advantage that this current team,

(08:28):
and obviously Lebron is, you know, thirty nine years old,
but he's still playing really well. When you look at
the Dream Team in ninety two and a lot of
people forget this. Magic Johnson was a year removed from
NBA basketball, right like because of HIV, had to retire,

(08:49):
and he hadn't played competitive NBA basketball consistently in a year.
He did come back and play in the All Star Game,
won MVP. Look great, but we know that is not
the same, and of course great in the Olympics, but
everybody did because they routed these overmatch teams. So I
guess I would say Magic on that team was not

(09:11):
at his best just because he wasn't right playing consistently
against that level of competition.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Bird, who had a solid year.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
I think he only played maybe might only played forty
five games that year, but he played well when he played,
but he was very He didn't play a lot.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
In the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
He didn't even practice in those games because you know,
at all because of his back and he was able
to come in and as Magic said, when he got
a chance, he switched a few on the documentary, but
it was Larry Bird never played another NBA game after
the Dream Team and that year, Yeah, I was right.

(09:51):
He played forty five games, averaged twenty points and six
six point eight assists. I mean, this is how good
Bird was he averaged twenty points, nine point six rebounds,
and six point eight assists in forty five games, and
that really compromised State because of.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
His back right inches away from a triple.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
Double, right right, So he just you know, Magic and Bird,
who along with Mike were the biggest names, weren't at
their best. So that would be the advantage that the
night the twenty twenty four team would have. But I
think that and you're right, like if you play in
ninety two now, all of a sudden, the defense is

(10:31):
a lot more physical, and I do think that affects
Steph and Durant. Those are the two mainly that I
think it would affect Steph and Durant because Durant we've
seen struggle with physical defense, go back to when he
was in Brooklyn against the Boston Celtics, even playing against
Denver in the playoffs recently.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Steph, you know a lot of people have talked about it.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
As great as he is, if you can hand check,
you know, and you could slow a guy down.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
Like that, that could affect Steph.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
You know, Chris also real quick to that point.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
I think that the only player on the twenty twenty
four team that would benefit from that defense, because I
think it would go both ways, right both it would
hinder them offensively and then on the defensive side of things,
since the other guys would be more used to physical defense,
will be in trouble. I think Anthony Edwards though, would
be able to be a lot better defensively in that
because I mean, you see he's reaching all over the place,

(11:28):
right if he could hear check, Yeah, he's strong enough
to guide people around.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
I think one advantage or a couple advantages that the
ninety two team would have obviously inside they got Ewing
and David.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
Robinson, Carl Malone, Charles Barkley.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
I mean, that's a lot to deal with inside, and
this team was so concerned in twenty twenty four with
inside play of guys that weren't nearly as good as
the ones I just mentioned that that's why they put
Joelmbat on the team because they needed size. Also, Martin
Here's I would agree admit, on paper, you probably like

(12:09):
the twenty four team, even though obviously Michael Jordan is
smack dab in the middle of his prime, and so
is Charles Barkley. But one of the big advantages I
think for the ninety two team Martin is that back
in nineteen ninety two American players played, they were better

(12:30):
at playing team basketball, they were better at playing five
man basketball. Every single player on that dream team knew
how to play, including Michael Jordan, knew how to play
without the ball in his hands and be effective without
the ball in his hands. And they would go and
set screens and they're doing backdoor cuts and things like that.

(12:50):
And this team is doing a little the more you
watch them. But the fact is, these guys, because of
how they've grown up playing, they are not as used
to playing five man basketball. They're playing they used to
playing one man ball, which is ISO or two man ball,
high pick and roll, everybody spread the floor.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
And you can see that a lot of Joel Embiid
and Devin.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Booker, maybe although he's played fairly well, maybe Jason Tatum,
like a lot of these guys aren't as comfortable and
aren't playing at their absolute peak because they are not
just not as comfortable playing without the ball in their
hands and without being like the number one guy or
number two guy at worst. And so I think that's

(13:38):
a big advantage and Magic Johnson. Now Lebron is playing
point essentially, and he's he's given you, you know, hints
of Magic Johnson, but magic Johnson. Martin was the premier
player of all time as far as bringing players together.
So you give him that much talent, and I think
he just get the right the past to the right

(14:01):
man at the right time, in the right place. So
I think the ninety two team, because of their style
of play, would I think it'd be.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
I think it'd be.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
A toss up. I really do.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
I think they could play with this team. I even
might take him, might take the ninety two team because
you got Jordan and Barkley in their prime.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well, you know, Chris one other thing too. Jordan and
Barkley in their prime.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
But again, if depending on the error right, if these
guys were playing at twenty twenty four with the I mean,
I think Larry Bird probably would have found somebody else
to cement his driveway and maybe wouldn't have any of
the back doing that.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I think he probably would have been able to afford
to get somebody else. He still could have done it
back then.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
But you know, but I'm just staying now with so
much more money of all, it's kind of I don't
want to say it as outsized importance. But you know,
if think about the twenty four Renews cycles, you heard
that Larry Bird or even hell Tyreese Halliburton was paving
his own driveway, would call him crazy. But you know,
who knows where a guy like well Magic probably would
have been in the same boat. You know, But if
these guys who were past their prime quote unquote, who

(15:08):
knows where their prime would be? Because if you had
told me ten years ago that Lebron James and Steph
Curry would still be in their prime at twenty twenty four,
I would say, as the bet I'm probably not gonna
take right, Like, now, do you see these guys, they're
still you know, two of the top ten basketball players
in the world, top fifteen basketball players in the world
at over thirty five years old.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Can't remember Martin as well that even though like you said,
the players back then weren't they didn't shoot the three
nearly as much as they shooted today, not even close. Remember,
the international line is shorter, so it's twenty it's like
a foot almost basically close to a foot and a
half shorter, So they that would be I won't say

(15:49):
an advantage for the Dream Team, but they would certainly
be able to hit those threes. Michael Jordan's best three
point shooting per year, percentage wise, was the year they
moved Remember they moved the line in and Jordan shot
forty three percent from three that year, because I mean,
he was a career thirty three percent shooter.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
So you know, take the same shots. They're just not
long twos.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
An hia right, right, And so that's where I think
you need to And some even saying, you know, Steph
obviously has been off, and some have joked, you know,
maybe the line's too close for him, but that that
actually might be true, you know what I mean, Like
he may need to shoot further back. I don't know
how you you know how you Steph is to take

(16:31):
in twenty two footers, you know what I mean, because
if he's that close, he just steps back.

Speaker 5 (16:36):
And takes a twenty four foot or three pointer.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
So it'd be I think Draymond definitely, I won't say
disrespects the Dream Team, although that is that. I don't
think he meant it that way, but it's definitely selling
him short.

Speaker 5 (16:50):
I think it'd be a toss up. All right, we
got more to talk you want to throw this out.

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Let's let's give the listeners this is one they might
want to weigh in on eight seven ninety nine on Fox.
Who you Got twenty twenty four Dream Team? Or twenty
or nineteen ninety two Dream Team? Your thoughts next, Chris
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maybe two calls eight seven, seven, ninety nine on Fox
ninety two Dream Team or twenty twenty four, I don't know,
Redeem Team part two, whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Your thoughts right.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
John in Vegas, you're on the couple on Fox Sports Radio,
which you got.

Speaker 9 (18:36):
Pal, stop drinking on the job. Ohfense back in the
Dream teams eas and don't playing prefense now. They couldn't
stop anybody from the Dream Team with our defense they
play nowadays, and they be defended the three point line
back then, even take out the hand checking. There's no way,

(18:58):
no way, even Lebron, I mean, come on, nobody faces up.
They can't do nothing to dribble with that team.

Speaker 4 (19:08):
I think, yeah, I think you're you're the opposite of Draymond.
You're just disrespecting this team because I mean, yeah, they
played better defense.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
It was more physical back then.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
But these guys could have you know some I think
Durant and Steph would be effected but still play well.
But Lebron, you can't tell me he couldn't play against
physical defense. He would have gavest meta world peace when
he entered the league. Remember the first half. I don't know,
for whatever of Lebron's career, they were playing that sticky
defense back in the day. It's not Lebron's whole career

(19:42):
hasn't been this three point you know.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
I mean, like basketball Lebron.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Taking pictures of Lebron or looking at pictures of Lebron
from twenty twenty and forty now is a time capsule
like that that famous one of him in the red
tall te taking pictures at the slam Dunk contest with
a flip phone. That's how long Lebron's been doing this.
You didn't even have Apple maps.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Uh. Ray in Michigan, you're on the eye couple on
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 10 (20:07):
They was going on Fellers yell, all right, yeah, we're good, bro,
what's up. I'm good. I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 7 (20:12):
Hey.

Speaker 10 (20:13):
Honestly, I kind of agree with him, but not to
the extent. I just think that because back then they
played fundamental basketball, which a lot of these teams don't play.
If you look, the reason why Denver was causing so
many people problems was because they played team ball.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
To the Spurs, think back, you know when they were
winning it. Think back to the Golden State.

Speaker 10 (20:32):
Warriors, right, they were playing.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
And that gave these teams problems.

Speaker 10 (20:38):
Absolutely, you gotta think about it. And then you would
have had people like remember, you weren't winning no slots,
David Robins, wann't tho slots. They were play defense and
played gave you know, playing that post. So I think
they'd have been wearing them boys down. So with them
jump shots wouldn't have been hitting it. It's good because
you know, the lands get tired of that shot, get
a little harder. So I think they'd have been wearing
them boys down. I wouldn't say it's gonna be no blowout,
but I definitely get an edge to the Dream Team man.

(20:59):
And this even mentioned it was a lot of dogs
on the Jerry teams, the original Dream King versus nine,
I mean all alphas, you know what I mean. So,
and Chris Muller can shoot the three, So right, I'm
going to drink.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
King all right, all right, Michael Rad's around the corner
speaking of the Redeem Team.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
He was a member of that in two thousand and eight.
We'll talk to him.

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Speaker 4 (21:34):
Our next guest former All NBA guard, a member of
the Redeem Team in two thousand and eight, which, as
it's titled, brought redemption to American basketball.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
The great Michael Red Mike, what's up, brother.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
My brother, the great Chris. Thank you for having me, man,
awesome to.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Have it is awesome have y'all hoped the family and
everybody as well.

Speaker 7 (22:02):
Man, everybody who's listening. Me and Chris go back, I
don't know, twenty something years, twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
Yeah, So it's all in the great reunion when we ever,
when we ever talk, to get together.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Absolutely, brother, absolutely So. Look, we're not gonna start with
any softballs.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
We were just talking.

Speaker 4 (22:21):
We were just starting to show by talking about Draymond
Green said this twenty twenty four team would wipe out
the Dream Team. The ninety two team. He basically said,
they will win five out of seven games, and they
beat them by double figures on average. So what are

(22:41):
your thoughts about that? And you can be objective obviously
you weren't on either of those teams.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
Sure, sure, who knows, Chris. At the end of the day,
I think these are always fun discussions to have, you know,
I try to be objectives in these discussions. Although I'm
a product of the nineties, you know basketball era and
saw all those guys up in close every single game

(23:07):
as a kid. My heart would obviously go with ninety
two if you had to compare for this team right
here is absolutely loaded top to bottom. There's no weaknesses
on either team. You will probably have eleven to twelve
Hall of Famers in this team as well, and it's
all set. He's done. So that Dream team had eleven,

(23:29):
So okay, you take Christian Latner out. The twenty twenty
fourteen will probably have more. But my heart would say
the nineteen ninety two teams.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
So let me ask you this because I was saying
one and you can you know, there's advantages for each team.
One of the advantages I think ninety two would have.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Is that back then.

Speaker 4 (23:52):
In the nineties, NBA players and American players in general,
they played five man basketball, whereas nowadays guys grow up
playing one or two man you know, high pick and roll,
spread the floor basketball. And you didn't play in the nineties,
like you said, but you play. You came into the
league in the early two thousands or in two thousand,

(24:13):
I believe, and you know, so you at that time,
I think teams still played more team basketball than just
it being and everybody was touching the ball, the ball's moving.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Do you what is the difference? I mean, am I right?

Speaker 8 (24:29):
Guy?

Speaker 4 (24:30):
I'm sure I would imagine growing up you definitely were
playing more five.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
Man basketball, moving without the.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Ball, setting the screens, even if you're a star and
things like that. How much I think that would be
an advantage because I think the teams that play that
way now, Denver, Golden State a few years ago, they
they they do well in the NBA.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
And so how different is that?

Speaker 4 (24:54):
And I don't know if you were in the league,
do you remember a time when you felt it switched
to more high pick and roll, more one and two
man ball, or was that after you were done.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
I think after I was done in the last ten
twelve years. You know, it's interesting, you know, you asked
me who will win between ninety two and twenty twenty four,
I would pick two thousand and eight. But I will
say this critise to your point. The dynamic was different

(25:26):
in the eighties and nineties because you had guys that
stayed in school longer. You had three year, four year
players in college coming to the NBA compared to one
and done right right, it's a different dynamic compared to
then and now. So MJ your magics, Karl Maloane's, Barkley's,
they were in school on average probably three to four years,

(25:47):
you know, compared to this generation now who's in school
for once one year and they're out right. So there's
a lot of acumen that you gain in college, and
there's a lot of things you learned in college that
helps you from fundamental standpoint, you know. And I think
that was the thing that that that was a differentiator
there in the nineties compared to now. But the talent

(26:09):
is so immense now, so the talent can almost override,
you know, your time in school. So it's a it's
a hard discussion, but I think that's one of the dynamics,
you know, from when I zoom out, I say that
ninety two team had had guys who were in college longer,
coached by great coaches, the body Knights, the deans, Smith's,
the coach ks and on and on and on. They

(26:31):
had that level of acumen coming into the game, which
was a It was a different game back then.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Now, Mike, you obviously were on the twenty eighteen to
win a gold medal.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
I'm sure that there was.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
How much pressure did you feel throughout that process on
the way to winning a gold medal being no dubbed.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
The redeemed team?

Speaker 6 (26:50):
And how much did that pressure do you think it's
still felt by the United States because Olympic basketball is
weird where winning is simply not enough. But if you
beat South Sudan by one point in an exhibition game,
it's almost like, you know, we're treating like an international incident.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
Yeah, that ninety two team, Martin, to your point, really
started something internationally. Kids from all around the world begin
to gravitate the basketball, and I think you have to
credit the ninety two team for that in large part. Yeah,
it's a different it's a different game Obviously, you have
more international players in the NBA now compared to back then.

(27:28):
In our process, we never took a team for granted.
Obviously we were challenging that gold medal game against Spain,
who had I think five to six NBA players in
our team itself. So we understood that that that there
was a paradigm shift in basketball globally. I mean, you
look at now some of the top players in the
world are from you know, Europe, sure and so so

(27:50):
so that's a dynamic that we've never seen before because
the best players of margins come from America. So so
so now you have you know, sixty sixty plus NBA
players on these teams now, and that you can't take
a team for granted at all. We have to come
out and play and prepare. The one thing that I
appreciate about my experience, I'll say this put Jerry Colangelo

(28:10):
for this. We got together for three years before we
got to that Olympics. We had a three to four
year process that was so beneficial for us. We developed
a cohesion, we had chemistry. Everyone was bought in a
lot of dinners, a lot of time to get a
lot of practices, and so we spent time together before

(28:31):
we ever got to that Gold Metal game, and I
think that served Turf as well.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
How tough was it, because like most of these great
USA teams, everybody's a superstar. How tough is it to adjust,
you know, to win on a team like that? Maybe
your role is to be a role player. You used
to getting twenty five a night, and your role on

(28:57):
this team is to be a role player. How tough
of an adjustment is that for guys, not just mentally
but actually almost like muscle memory, like, you know, playing
a different way than you're used to.

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Totally less touches. Uh, you know people are talking about
step curry struggles so far, but like less touches, less minutes,
the office is not centered around you. It's a different
dynamic and you gotta you gotta, you gotta get in
the efficient when you get in and get out, you
know type of thing. And so it's a different dynamic

(29:29):
than your own team. And I remember, uh, back in
eight when I didn't play as much, you know, on
that team, I was getting calls from parents like why
are you not playing? I said, do you realize where
I'm at right now? I'm one of the best players
in the world, and I'm securing that even though I'm
not playing much, I'm obviously one of the best players

(29:51):
in the world. I'm here, so I'm at the Olympics
and we got a chance to want to go medal.
Who's complaining?

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Right?

Speaker 7 (29:56):
And you go into it. You go into it obviously
with the fine expectation that everybody's not gonna be able
to play their minutes. Everyone has a specific role and Chris,
I tell you it's Martin. To this day, no one
comes up to me and never says to me, man,
who is the league of score on that team?

Speaker 5 (30:12):
Right?

Speaker 7 (30:12):
Bro? Who is who's the league rebound on that team?
Who who's the leaguing in sistcott team? No one cares.
They always tell me, thank you so much for represent
your country and winning the gold medal. Will never forget it.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Uh Mike, take go ahead, Yeah, I got so.

Speaker 7 (30:26):
When you so, when you zoom out, you know history
will history will just know you as a lifted gold champion.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Uh Mike.

Speaker 6 (30:33):
I wanted to ask you though, because you said these
conversations obviously are happening from the head the coaching staff,
and probably a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
The head coach, Mike Kruesski at the.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
Time, who was a college coach historically coaching at Duke.
Steve Kerr now is an NBA coach. Do you think
that conversation is a little different from a guy who
you're competing against in your regular, you know, regular day
job for lack of a better term, day in day out,
playoffs in playoffs out for guys who are actively on
NBA rosters. So because it feels to me like it'd

(31:03):
be a little bit easier for a guy like coach
k to shit you down because he's not going to
see you until the next time you guys play for
international ball.

Speaker 7 (31:11):
You know, I never thought about that. It's interesting because, uh,
coach k probably didn't have a dog in a fight,
right right, And I think I think, I think coach
coach Kurves done a great job because you would think
Steph would be highlighted more probably, but he's been he's
been objective, you know, and I'm sure Steve has had
those conversations with the guys, and I think each guy

(31:34):
has to go into the situation, which I'm sure they
have eagle list. Even though you have an ego and
you have to have an ego, you got to go
into the situation knowing that this is bigger than you.
And I think that's the one thing that Coach k
I know, will you share with us that this is
a bigger moment than just you being able to be
to the score, to be the top dog and the man,

(31:54):
you know, being able to sacrifice. And I think this
team has done an incredible job so far because all
of them are accomplished, all of them and to be
professional in spite of not playing and all that just
speaks spartans to their character. It's not an indictment on
their game. It's just you're on a stacked teaam the
best team in the world, so you have to have

(32:16):
that perspective. I'm sure Steve Perr and the coach Estaffage
do an incredible job. Coach Bostra, coach lou On down
the list. I'm sure they're in the guy's ears constantly.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Michael Red, great stuff as always, brother, Thank you man,
We appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (32:31):
Appreciate you guys. Thank you Chris always. And Martin, thank
you sir.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
All right brother peace Martin. I think we just saw
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about that in the last fifty years.

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that race. It's the best foot race I've ever seen

(33:57):
because of how close it was, so we just said Noahliles.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
Ran a nine point seven eighty four.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
The guy he beat from Jamaica ran a nine point
seven eight nine to five thousandths of a second is
what separated them. And actually his foot and I think
Frek Hurley's foot who finished third for the US and

(34:27):
got the bronze. I think both of their feet crossed
the line before.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
Noahliles. But it's about your torso and clearly his head.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
His stretch was what did it? Oh, I think stretch
was what did it?

Speaker 6 (34:44):
When you go back and watch the replays, I mean
we were watching it live and live. I thought he
came in fourth. I was watching because y'all, I'm looking
at the feet. I'm not looking at the head. You know,
I'm not, you know, very much like a lot of
Olympic fans. I'm diving into the for the first time
since the last time it was four years ago, right right.
So it was like, I'm not like keeping abreast of

(35:05):
the ins and outs of the of the track and
field competition. But I knew when he came out, boy Chris,
the way he was hopping up and down and pointing
at the camera, I was like, I have my hands
in my face for a second at the end, it
was like, there's no way he came out there with
that bragged docio and energy and finished fourth.

Speaker 4 (35:24):
Then well, he said, because if you if you watch it,
So they run the race and the announcer, now I
can't remember his name, but he he he made a mistake.
The announcer was saying, the guy from Jamaica one, it
looked like it right and and but the the athletes
were just kind of sitting there, you know, looking up

(35:47):
at the screen or whatever, waiting for a.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Call and Lyles.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
During that time, Lyles went up to the guy from
Jamaica kind of behind him right, and Lyle said.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
What he said to him was like, hey, I'm gonna
have to eat this.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
I don't know if he said I'm gonna have to
eat this, humble Pyre, I'm gonna have to humble myself,
Uh you got me or something to that effect.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Because so he thought he lost right then, and come on,
come on, come on.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Right right, I Martin, when you you mentioned Lyle's coming
out jumping up and down and stuff, I thought the
brother from Jamaica was gonna win. After watching the pre
limbs or the semi finals, because remember Lyle's finished second
in both of his first heats. Yea, the first one,

(36:35):
I get. You know, he probably wasn't concerned too much.
He actually said he took it lightly, but then he
finished second in the next one, and the brother from
Jamaica looked tremendous.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
He's young, he's.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Gonna be obviously back in a force. Yeah, right, but
I thought he was gonna win. I'm with you. I
kind of thought he had it. But I mean, I'm
happy for Lyles. But what a race, man? I mean
that you now close?

Speaker 5 (37:07):
That is that?

Speaker 1 (37:07):
That?

Speaker 4 (37:08):
That's almost you want to go? You know what, Let's
do it again. Let's have a do over. He was
on the street, right, I got to run again. We
don't know who was That's why. No, that's why he
took his name tag off so quick. He's like, now
I'm done, I'm done.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Don't call me back. I'm not here.

Speaker 6 (37:23):
Because he won that thing by the hair on his chin, boy, literally,
And I mean it just goes to show you when
you were at the highest level of competition, every little
thing matters him with that little extra stretch because if
you go back and watching the replay, he is in
fourth place with four steps to go.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Right, No, I mean literally he was last.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
It was Feah.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
He's a slow starter, which is his main thing, is
the two hundred, and I guess that's why, you know,
I don't know if he can even fix that, because
if he fixed the start, who knows what he could do.
But he is a poor starter. And you're right, I
mean you're not exaggerating by much about him being in
fourth place with four steps. I mean it was like

(38:12):
I think at ninety meters he was in third, so that.

Speaker 6 (38:17):
Those last three steps he really stretched for the finish
line and you know, again got it robbed. You just
told me he reached twenty seven miles an hour top
speed in that ten in that in that one hundred
meters Tyreek's fastest time last.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Year, of course wearing pads. But twenty three miles.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
And he reached twenty seven was at the most you know, hot,
fastest of anybody, I guess.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
So, I mean it had to have been right.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Yeah, especially probably over the last forty meters or something.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
He was he was probably cooking.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
But you know, I feel this way every year every
four years, Martin. Like, I love track and field, and
when I was coming up, it was a lot more
popular you know general, I mean.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
Carl Lewis was like a superstar.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Even after him, Calvin Smith, like the fastest people were known.
I wish that they would come up with something where
these guys, because they don't a lot of them unless
you're an absolute star like you saying, both don't make
a great deal of money. So I wish they would
come up with something where they were more on the
radar on a yearly basis.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
You know, all right, A couple two hours left, locket
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