December 20, 2024 • 40 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us if Aaron Rodgers is getting too much blame for all the dysfunction within the New York Jets organization, discuss whether or not having multiple mid-major programs in the College Football Playoff is actually good for the sport and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Aaron Torres swings by to preview the CFP game between Indiana and Notre Dame.
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I'm only laughing because I'm laughing out of pain with you.
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Brother. This boy.
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Let me tell you something. We're gonna earn our stripes.
When did you guys know that you can make it
as a show. Today we both were playing with the
flu game.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
We blow.
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But you know what, the bullster won that.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Rob. They still want it, they still want it. They
got the job done. They showed up and you are
a massive mentor to people. I am myself as well,
and we're gonna show the young people that this is
how you push through, Rob, This is how you push
through when you're down. You still come and you show
up to work and you still put up thirty.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
No doubt, and we are gonna make it happen. So
it's great to be back on after a day off
for both of us yesterday. But all is well. A
lot to do on this funky flashback Friday. Aaron Torres
of course Fox Sports Radio Weekend hosts and the guru
for college football and basketball. He'll be along coming up.
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That's in about twenty seven minutes or so. Sean King
will be down with the King in our number two
as a regular slot, the former NFL quarterback in Fox
Sports Radio NFL analyst, and of course in our number three,
Lamar Mitchell bet MGM, Director of Trading. He'll be along,
try to win you some shekels for the weekend and
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last call, and of course NFL pig Skin pickoff.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Will do all that as well.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
But first, let's welcome in the Odd Couple crew because
Kelvin we wouldn't be able to do this find radio
program without him. Rob g is our producer, Alex is
our engineer, Steve de Sager, but we got Barn Animals
Steve de Sager's he's the anchor desk. He'll keep us
updated throughout the program. And Elijah ever social.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Media agree with. We've heard of him. He does a
great job.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Who social So, how are you feeling, buddy? Before we
get into this real quick?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Are you doing? Okay? Yeah, I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
But listen, because we're family, I'm gonna tell you in advance.
I apologize if in the middle of me going at Rob,
I say in another another thing, Rob, just you know, hey,
it's about to be three hours. I feel good, feel better.
Let me let me rephrase that, I feel better better
than I anticipated and I had the last couple of days.
(04:03):
But yet and still you know, little remnants. So bear
with me in for any point, you know, I say
one time.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Or two, I got it because I'm I'm in that
same boat. But I'm feeling one hundred percent better and
I haven't been waking up in a pool of water
and any of that. I don't have a sore throat.
I'm happy and I'll be good. Uh you know over
the weekend, ken, Yeah, so our weekdal good and stuff.
I even got out today and did a couple of
(04:31):
things that I needed to get done so that you.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Get a deal that we'll know you're back if you
got a deal. Did you go get a deal?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
No, I didn't. I wish I would have gotten a deal, but.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Out of major field boy would have fifty instead of
thirty tonight if he if he had gotten the deal,
know it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But no, man, I'm good. It feels good. Missed you guys,
So uh yeah, I'm ready to rock and roll.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And and and we'll see we'll get into it.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
But the college football playoff, Steve the Saka just mentioned
about to kick.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Off about an hour and this is what you guys
all wanted.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Uh, you know most of these playoff games, as Rob
G and I have, you know, giving you the list
for years on.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
This show about how most of them are lopsided and
bad the games.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
And now here we go with widening the net Indiana
at Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Is that going to be a good game or is
that going to be a blowout?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And it'll continue So I'm interested to see, you know,
like if this is just warning too much thinning out
the pool or whatnot.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So we'll get there as well.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
But let's start with the NFL and Aaron Rodgers and
just all that Jets talk and the owner and Rob G.
Can you just kind of fill us in on you know,
like they pulled the curtain back at the Jets and
it wasn't a pretty picture.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And for all people who don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I grew up in New York, I grew up as
a Jets fan. I followed this team kelvin when I
was in high school. I did not work on Sundays
at the shoe store Nickels Stride right on Queens Boulevard.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I'm a sixteen yeard. Oh God, tell the boss.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I'll work any day for you, but no Sundays during football.
That's how big of a football fan I was. Okay,
so I was really into it and all that, and
the Jets with my team.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I've been in this business a long time.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I don't root for teams, but I know that this
franchise has been dysfunctional for a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
But Rob g just clue us in on some of
the stuff that has come out.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, it's actually a combination of two stories. One of
them the big one that we talked about yesterday. Show
you guys are both off. I'm in the Athletic. I
never missed the couple when we're not high.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Now I know you don't.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
But The Athletic published a long form piece talking about
the Jets dysfunction with the Keen Eye focused on owner
Woody Johnson. A few highlights that you guys might appreciate.
According to The Athletic, Woody Johnson used Madden ratings to
justify making trades or not making trades and free agency decisions.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
How sick is that he's just one of us.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He's just one of us.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Number two.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
He used his two teenage sons as advisors on team matters,
both including the roster and front office decisions. Johnson forced
coaching staff to make certain roster decisions, including benching their
starting safety middle of the season this year.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And number four.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Woody Johnson, according to The Athletic, had friends and family
member in the locker room after games wins and losses,
and would occasionally criticize players in the locker room to
their face, not to be outdone. About an hour after
this article dropped, was The Bombshell covered a lot of
different shows on the network. ESPN published their own piece
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and they rank what they believed to be the most damming, yeah,
worst decisions that any team has made over the last
five years. Reach roster, the number three overall of all
the thirty teams, and the number one moved by the Jets.
What they believe set them back more than anything they've
done last five years was the acquisition of Aaron Rodgers.
(07:57):
So it got me thinking, guys, do you will agree
that Aaron Rodgers at this point, given what we seen
him with lind the Seas, Withoody Johnson, is he getting
a little too much blame for what's gone wrong in
New York This season.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I'll start and I'll say, absolutely, he's getting too much blame.
The Jets have been dysfunctional for a long time.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And here's the issue.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yes, he was supposed to be this white horse coming
in rob g can you can look it up. In
about five of their losses, the defense gave up a
winning drive at the end of every game. It's as
good as the defense was a couple of years ago.
It just didn't live up to it. But there's so
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much dysfunction that goes there, and here Aaron Rodgers has
become the NFL's pinata. People have gone out of their.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Way to try to discredit this guy who's one of
the greatest.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Throwers of the football, whether you like him, whether you
despise him, because he lied and said he was vaccinated
and he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That hurt his standing with a lot of.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
People, and rightfully so to talk about that in that vein,
you know, during that time where people you don't know
if they had grandparents or people who are sick, you know,
and you just wanted to know who's vaccinated who's not.
I thought that was bad, but it's been a piling on.
Of course, last year he got hurt in four snaps,
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so that kind of you know, that season went by
the wayside. I don't know if you can blame him
for getting hurt, you know, when the offensive line couldn't
protect him. He was hurried on three or the four
snaps that he had before he got hurt. And then
this year, while his numbers and his play is not good,
no one's here trying to defend it. I'll tell you
(09:44):
just for comparison, go look at Patrick Mahomes's numbers compared
to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
They're identical.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
One guy is the worst in the world and the
other guy is the greatest quarterback who ever played.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And I'm not you know me, we've tackled the Patrick
Mahomes numbers here. We don't have all these rosy glasses
like a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You've even admitted when looking as much as you like him,
that his numbers aren't good, haven't been up to par,
and just not good. And no one would, no other
show would even go there to tell you that. Go
look for yourself. And I'm not saying that he's played
great and he's done everything right. That's not but it
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was He's a pinata because of the stuff on Pat McAfee,
you know, making his appearance push him back. Every seemed
like every week on somebody, there's always some dispute. There's
a lot of outside stuff, and then people try to
discredit him as if he hasn't won a Super Bowl,
he hasn't won four MVPs, he doesn't have the greatest
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touchdown the interception, like, there's so many things we talk
about his career.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And I think he's just an easy target at this point.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
What so you brought up a couple of good points.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But one of the things I think that he can't
be victim the victim in is the same thing he
was the praise in, and that is that quarterbacks get
most of the praise, quarterbacks get most of the criticism.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
That's just the name of the game.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I give you an example, Sam Donald right now, like
he all MVP candidate because the Vikings are having an
amazing season, we don't tell on the defense. But I'm
saying people are saying that we don't talk about the
defense that much. We don't talk about the running game. Well,
they haven't arguably the best receiver, we don't talk about him.
It's just look at Sam Donald. This is what he's doing.
(11:39):
The Buffalo Bills have an amazing season. What is it,
Josh allen Man, look at the Patrick Mahomes always makes
the play within Patrick Patrick, Patrick Patrick, and this is
what we do. The quarterbacks get all the praise, turn
it around, they get all the criticism. So Aaron Rodgers,
truth be told, he ain't used to He should be
used to this. This ain't nothing new to him. He
should be understanding what comes with the job. I'm gonna
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get a whole lot of praise like I did eighty
five ninety percent of the time that I was in
Green Bay, but also I'll get some criticism.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What doesn't help him is the fact you mentioned it
when Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Was with the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
One of the things that's become interesting is people are like, oh,
he's got a personality.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh he's funnier than I thought.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh he's lively er, he's more a little more irreverent
than I thought. Because he just went in did his
business win or lose. Aaron Rodgers, to his credit, that's
his choice. He's always in the media, he's always doing this.
He always gives an opinion about everything, and that is
literally his choice. I don't have a problem with it.
But what comes with that is the scrutiny that comes
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along with that people will have with it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Same thing with Lebron.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Lebron chooses to put his head and his voice in everything. Hey,
political things, Hey, other sports, Hey this, Hey social commentary.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's his right. So what happens is man, stick.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
To basketball, or man, you doing this, or if you
focus on this basketball instead of this, you'd be doing
better with the greats. It happens with people with prominent
names when you started to do so many other things,
We're gonna pinpoint. And it's one of those things. Him
doing all of this and not winning, you know that
wins and losses.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
If he were winning and he came.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And saved the Jets, none of it would matter that
he was doing the Pat McAfee or that he had
these conspiracies or that he was.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Doing I'll give you that.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
I'll give you that, but you cannot let the Jets
ownership off the hook.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And no, I'm not getting off so I'm talking about that.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Well, but that's what But that's what That's what I'm saying,
is like, no matter what, And I brought up the point,
Rob g and I don't know if you could figure
it out or find out how many of like they
were literally the Patriots game that they marched down on
the deep, like they had to lead right the Patriots
get the ball, they marched down, scored, scored the game.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
With a touchdown. You can't. You could take a look.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
At the football game and say, oh, Aaron Rodgers lost again.
You can look at the Indianapolis game. I could give
you like five games where the team that held the
ball last, the Jets, the visiting team, or the opponent
watched down on that defense and won the game in
which they had a lead in the game, in the
game they lost to was it Denver with.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
A kick or missed a chip shot. They have played,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They're the AFC version of the Bears, and that they've
played better than their record at times. Caleb Williams has
produced more than the record would show at times. But
the end result all of us go, oh, they're terrible.
When you're like, no, did you watch the game they
actually should have won or they had a chance to win.
The other thing I'll say to your point, that's the
other choice that makes this difficult is that Aaron chose
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to go to the Jets, knowing it was a dysfunctioned organization,
knowing that this is where they haven't had a history
of winning.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Tom Brady went to the Bucks, who have been.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Successful over the last fifteen to twenty years, who you know, had.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Everything about I don't look at it. I gotta say.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
So.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
What I'm saying is he went to an organization to
you to your point, that has been not well run,
that hasn't had this success. And it's like, well, dude,
why'd you go there? You see here, Dan Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Here's my pushback.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Kawhi Leonard went to an organization that never won anything.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And ain't no no no.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
But he could have gone because some people don't want
the easy path. Some people want to be in a
situation where they try to be the difference and turn.
Tom Brady looked around and took the easiest path. He
looked like the Bucks and said, they got a good defense,
that got great receivers. All they got to do is
stop the quarterback from throwing thirty in the shan.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
He was forty something. That's all he wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I ain't twenty eight trying to you know, do this
for another ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's what he did, and that's what Aaron schue go.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You should have go to one of these teams and
make that happen Matthew Stafford with the Rams. But uh,
but the ownership is trapped. When you got your sons
telling you what to do and also looking at Madden,
that is comical. And I thought you would be a
little bit more excited because he is part of the
Johnson and Johnson family who provide us with baby So
I did think you would show them a little bit
more love.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
No, well, I'm not paying for ninety five for baby O.
I want the ninety nine cent baby or same stuff.
It don't last the same, Rob, it's the same stuff.
It field last the same. I'll tell you that, all right.
Is Aaron Rodgers getting too much blame for the New
York Jets dysfunction.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
We'll continue that conversation next with you eight.
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All right, we're talking about Aaron Rodgers Woody Johnson, who
is the owner of the Jets.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Who's more to blame? Is it? Is it Aaron?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Is it the organization? Eight seven seven ninety nine on
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Speaker 5 (17:37):
All right, let's get started with Drew in New Jersey.
You're in the eye.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drew?
Speaker 9 (17:44):
Hey, how's it going guys, it's definitely Woody Johnson. However,
I do agree with what Rob said. I think the
whole COVID nineteen thing has blown it out of proportion
for Aaron Rodgers. And it's not just how he plays,
because people attack his leadership like they say, I heard
Nick right say he's the worst leader in sports. I mean,
let's let's like if you played videos of first things
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first like from like five years ago, total opposite, it's
the Packers are letting down. Aaron Rodgers did this. Yes,
the only thing I can compare it to is, uh,
you know I was I was too young. I mean
maybe OJ Simpson, How was maybe Robbie? You know, how
was OJ Simpson viewed prior to burging people?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Right?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Oh, no, Darling, he was every TV commercials, making movies
everything but but but Drew, You're one hundred percent right,
And you could go back and see in those games
at the playoff games, Rob G and I have talked
about this, Kelvin, Thanks for the call, Drew, and Uh,
Aaron Rodgers, there's like four playoff games where he didn't
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get the ball, Like he tied the game right late
in the game, never got the ball. Defense gave it up,
never got the ball in overtime. This before they change
the rules. But let me just give you some of
the numbers I was just telling you about yards. Mahomes
tenth in the league in yards Aaron Rodgers eleven. Aaron
Rodgers has more touchdowns than Patrick Mahomes twenty three to
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twenty two. Aaron Rodgers has less interceptions than Mahomes eight
to eleven, and passer rating Rogers is ninety point eight
Mahomes is ninety one. So obviously winning is the cure.
All people will look past everything when you win. But
I'm just trying to say, people make it as if
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if no one will say not us on this show,
But most people remember what got into it with Trey Wingo,
who would have didn't want to acknowledge that he wasn't
playing well, you know. And then if you're gonna say
that Aaron Rodgers isn't playing well, which is fine if
that's your you got to say.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
That Pat Mahomes isn't playing well either. That's all I say.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, I just think the only thing I would say
out to that is again, I think Aaron Rodgers is
playing better than the narrative. I'll give you that. I
think the difference is winning plays. And I think that's
the issue, is that Patrick mahomes every game probably annoying.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
When he plays like a missfield goal, that's that's.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Not as far but that's he can't control that.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I'm talking about plays that he can control, and he'll
make a winning play, whether it's the two they're up,
they're up two points, he gets.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Block field goal, that's another absolutely.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
The past, he literally only does it two three times
a game. Now four times. He doesn't do it like
he used to. But that's ultimately what happens with sleeves
to win.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
And again I think it's I think it's overblown when
you look at the Chiefs wins. There are a lot
of games that he has nothing to do with why
they want won a loss. And I'm talking about ultimately
at the end of the games, and if you ever
look at him on the sideline, he's relieved because he
knows that he absolutely.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And they got lucky to lose without without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But also he has the equity of being the double
currently raining super Bowl winning team right now.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, but it's not a lifetime achievement.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
No, but that's not even a lifetime ago, that's current.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And you know what I'm saying, He's currently the super
Bowl champs, so we're not gonna but but he's only
lost one game. Rob, Come on, you can't be the
double raining super Bowl champ and only I.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Just gave you the stats though, I just you know
what I'm saying that equity period.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They're bad. Aaron Rodgers stats, they're bad. Patrick Mahomes stats.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
They're gonna but you, Rob, you too, You're too smart
to not know this is gonna buy you equity.
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Speaker 1 (21:48):
All right, Steve Sager is gonna give us what trending
we got Aaron Torres right all round that as well.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Hello gentlemen, Steve.
Speaker 10 (21:55):
We've got Indiana and Notre Dame coming up pretty good
because I'm indoors and these college football playoffs are outdoors
in the twenties. Switch game at Penn State tomorrow and
Ohio State tomorrow night and Notre Dame tonight. We'll see
if there's any snow by the end of the game.
But this matchup, you know the schools, they're in the
same state, and they're two hundred miles apart, and rob
they've played each other once since nineteen fifty eight, so it's.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Crazy bring it up.
Speaker 10 (22:19):
But Indiana is not a football school, right, very much
a basketball school in very much a basketball state. And
yet we've got eleven in one Indiana against eleven and
one Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Tonight, Steve, let me say this real quick.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
You're talking about the press twenty degrees or whatever for
a Browns Jets playoff game. The press box was so antiquated,
had no elevator, so you had to leave with four
minutes to go to be able to get through the
crowd to get downstairs.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Otherwise you can't make it right. So we start to leave.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
We walked down the stairs through the crowd, and of
course the game goes into overtime and all the writers
have to stand in the coal.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
This is Bernie those our playoff.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Right, Yes, yep, jetson Party called.
Speaker 10 (23:03):
That absolutely right. But you have to go back for
a while. You know, we're at Jets playoff game. There
have been only so many of those. Mark Sanchez ain't
walking through that door. No, yeah, recks a couple. Okay, sure,
that's pretty much the highlight of the last thirty years.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
We do have of those first world problems, Steve he's
talking about, Yes, sports, it was sold.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
It was cold. My god, I was young and I
was cold. I was cold.
Speaker 10 (23:31):
Just for the record, I'm guessing the players are cold
this week and it's probably more than five minutes stand
there like, yeah, yeah, well some writers can't move around
this year if we can be well, I mean, let's
just say that when I was a young media guy,
(23:53):
always getting into, for example, the baseball press box. Who
sits in the first row of a baseball press box
the most veteran writers, Yes, And I noticed that physically
there was something that was reflected in most of those
writers that sat in the first row.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And Steve eating vegetable since.
Speaker 10 (24:12):
It's just there's a lesson to be learned there, That's
all I'm saying. We had a couple of regular old
college football bowl games today. Florida beat Tulane thirty three
to eight, Ohio U over Jacksonville State thirty to twenty seven.
Michael Vick is officially the new head coach at Norfolk State,
close to his hometown. The Ravens cut wide receiver Deontay Johnson.
There are two NFL games Saturday, including Pittsburgh at Baltimore
(24:35):
on Fox TV four thirty pm Eastern time. The Steelers
would clinch the AFC North title with a win. Steelers
wide receiver George Pickens still out with the bad hamstring.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Back to you. He is Steve Sagred. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Steve.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Let me go get a vegetable play right now to
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Speaker 5 (25:16):
Would you say, Rob, what your what's your expectation for
the football college playoffs? Do you expect good games, blowouts
like we've seen in the past.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, good question.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I think because you know, the net is spread farther,
you know, And yeah, just brought it up.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Indiana and Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Haven't played played one time in fifty some odd years,
which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I think Indiana is not They're they're a good team.
I don't think they're a spectacular team, but also don't
think one. Yeah, but I also but we saw what
I mean they played Ohio State and god mileywat uh so, uh,
this should be this should listen, we know what this is. Rob,
You and I are going to have this conversation in
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maybe two years where it's gone from twelve to eighteen,
you know, maybe a just literally double its a twenty four.
Uh and I remember just hearing last week.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Twenty four college teams that should be up for the chimp.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
But Rob, you know this, Remember March madness what it
used to be. Now it's sixty four. What is sixty eight?
Now they're talking about ad and expanded into seventies. It's
about to get ridiculous in a minute. And so at
the end of the day, when money is always going
to be the common denominator or the root of the
reason for the change.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
When does it in right? When does it in, so
you know what, you know what it.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Ends when when people stand up, everybody doesn't take the
old mighty dollar. Okay, I've said this to you before.
I respect the Dodgers organization for not renaming Dodgers Stadium
American Express Stadium. I respect the New York Yankees. They
could get a pretty penny to rename Yankee Stadium and
they refuse to do it. The Yankees have the same uniform,
(26:56):
kelvin the same never change their uniform from day one.
Why if the Yankees made a black jersey or whatever
it is. They can make a ton of money and whatnot.
They don't have to do that. You don't have to
Everything can't be shouldn't be for sale. That's all I'm saying.
And I understand capitalistic society. People want to see you
(27:17):
up whatever they can do, but this should you should
at some point draw a line and say, okay enough.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Like the best part about it rob you.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, you're right, but is that we act as if
this is gonna be Ah. This is the thing that
actually determined a college football you know, number one team
and actual champion. Like I feel like we're always gonna
have those outs of why this didn't work. Well, it
really wasn't because you left out a team, you know, Florida,
Florida doesn't make okay, they're mad about about Florida's day. Miami, Miami,
(27:48):
the cam Ward is mad. Miami doesn't make it. They
were right there. They should be in Alabama, shouldn't be
in Alabama, shouldn't be in And like you're always gonna
have this reason as to why people don't feel as
if it's legitimate. But in the sake of the game's sake,
hopefully like Ohio State Tennessee, that's hopefully that that should
be a good one, at least on paper. Looking forward
to that. Uh, this Indiana notre to day, may he surprises.
(28:10):
Maybe they're equally matched more than we know. They haven't
played in you know, half a century or more. Uh,
so that could be something where we're surprised. Uh, Penn
State SMU, you know, potentially could be a good one
as well. I mean, I'm hoping that even if there's
a you know, a mismatch, it's not like when you
get that finally get that mismatch in March Madness where
(28:31):
we've seen the miss just and destroys them.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know, Yeah, but we've.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Seen the mismatches when it was just four teams.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Do you remember a couple of years ago when Michigan played,
they got demolished.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You gotta bring that up.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah, but I got it them just but you know
what I'm saying, there was only four teams and they
were lopsided.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
The one that got right.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
The thing that will give me optimism, rob.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Is the College Transferred Portal, Because you're getting teams that
become good way faster than we thought. You're getting teams
that or at least really really competitive faster than we thought,
or getting a quarterback they would never get normally.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So I'm hoping that this transfer portal makes it where
some of these.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Teams, like for instance, SMU Indiana, we know how they
got good so fast. You know, you look at uh Colorado,
right they out of the blue. They won two games,
then they went four, Now they went eight or nine.
Like this transfer portal did change and kind of level
the playing field. Like you it won't always level it
(29:36):
for a small school versus Alabama small school versus Ohio
State small school versus you know, Texas kind of a
thing like that. But you're getting some teams that have
some players on there that they normally wouldn't and they're
getting them instantly, and I think that may surprise us
where we go, oh, well, shoot, this was a better
game than I thought it would be, or oh they lost,
but they were competitive, they were they kept in the
(29:56):
game because you got guys that are really good that
just matt It didn't get time in another school or
mad the coach said this, or mad they didn't get
the n I n I L money.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
They were promised.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So I think you're gonna get some more uh more
talented players on rosters that historically wouldn't have it.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
What'd you think of? We know Colorado didn't make it,
but at one point it looked like they were short
right there? Right?
Speaker 5 (30:19):
They lost, They lost the games that they should thought
people thought they should have won. How do you look
at this season though, like, like what's happened there?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
If Dion chooses to stay, if coach Prime is there,
he doesn't leave, and he you know, he says he's
not and let's just for whatever reason's taken for his word, Well,
that's gonna be huge. You have the current Heisman Trophy winner,
Your son is gonna be a what top three four
five draft pick, you'll probably have another player picked, and
(30:52):
then you know a couple in the draft, and you
won a bunch of games were historically you hadn't and
you did it in such fast rate. Like I think
we because of the name of Prime and who he is,
and he's always in the media, like.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I think we forget dude.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
They were really really bad the last few years, you
know what I mean, prior prior. I mean, you go
back to them before he got there, Dude, they won.
But I wonder, though, this is one game the year
before he got there.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
What is if his son and Travis Hunter is not there?
Those are those are program changing kind of players. You
don't get those guys all the time, is what I'm saying.
I'm not saying deep Dion can't recoup some other players,
but those are some special players. And you just wonder,
if you're Dion, maybe you got to get out of dodge,
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you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
We have to having those guys well.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
But see, I'm looking at it as you know. I've
just been going over there. Their records over the last
few year, but they had before he got there. They
won one game the year before that, three games year
before that three games. So I think what you're looking
at is a now situation where with coach Prime and
you got the best player in college football, cried on
your shoulder, talk about how much you meant to him.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Literally can't stop seeing your praises. You changed my life.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You don't understand that people see that stuff and they say,
man ain't not to mention he's He's Prime. You know,
he's got that personality. He cares about you. He's very
father figurely. Like I think all that bowls well and
in him getting some some some playoffs, but.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
That doesn't mean a player like Travis Hunter going to
show up again. I hear what you're saying it can't hurt,
But I'm saying he had something. And even with the
with the Hedgsman Trophy winner and his son or whatever,
they still didn't even make the college football playoffs despite
a nine to three record.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
I don't know what if if that's a positive or
a negative. Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Like, No, I get what you say, like you, but
I'm saying, if you would have told the entire state
of Colorado we had a we had a color Uh,
come on and recently talk about that. How Colorado's all
we you know, he was saying, like that's just kind
of all we have, Like we're just we love that team.
And he was just saying, how dude, they're so embedded
in the community, Coach Prime and his players and the
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way they are with the team, the fans, and if
you told them, hey, we're gonna win six games and
be Bowl eligible data and like that's what's what the
callers said. He said, Man, we'd be so excited because
a Bowl game for us is a big deal, whereas
Ohio State Alabama, it's a national championship you're competing for
for us, just to get the ball. My alma mater
is Eastern Michigan. Shout out to Max Crosby. He's like
(33:29):
the best player we've had come out of there in
quite some time. As you know, who's covered the state
of Michigan for twenty years, you were there Eastern Michigan
at once every ten to fifteen years. Don't have a
player one of the sports that's worth talking about. If
all of a sudden, Eastern Michigan was just regularly nine
to three, eight and four, dude, that would be mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Like we're like, whoa, And so I know nine and
three might not be Ohio State worthy Alabama.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
That's incredible, incredible for Colorado. In fact, like I said,
they would take a couple of games less than that. Shoot,
they'll take seven and five. They're relevant, They're on national TV.
We're talking about them, their players are getting drafted. I
think Coach Prime Jackson State was a hit, Left goes
to Colorado a hit, was a hit when he was
(34:17):
doing Pop Warner had all these players. I just think
at some point, you want to know how far can
this hit keep rolling?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
If you can?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I and my Michael Jackson, I got to go leave
the Jackson five and go solo, cat win solo.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Can I drop off the wall?
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Ca?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I did it?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Can I drop a thriller?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
And I'm wondering if that's so some point it's Coach
Prime not gonna say, let me see if this good faith,
this good track record will send me to the pros.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So hey, we're.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Gonna break Eric Torres hopefully around the corner and also
Shekel City as well. It's your boys, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington,
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Speaker 8 (35:32):
Welcome to Shekel City, the home base for Rob Parker's
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Speaker 3 (35:45):
Excuse me, feel sick? All right, checko city. Let's do it.
Last time I went to case and how it? Wait? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Last time we uh my god, last time we did
Shekel City.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I was zero and three that time.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
My two hockey games in their bad days, ninety seven
ninety three and three is the record. I got Indiana
plus seven and a half. I'm hoping, I'm thinking it's
not gonna be a blowout.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Notre Dame wins.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
But I got Indiana plus seven and a half, Cavaliers
minus nine and a half. They host the Bucks, and
I got the Hornets plus twelve and a half. They're
in Philadelphia to take on the seventy six ers. So
Hornets plus twelve and a half, Cavaliers plus nine and
I mean minus nine and a half, that's right, and
Indiana plus seven and a half. And remember, I'm not
(36:32):
telling you who the bet on Kelvin. I'm telling you
who I bet on.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
That was the crazy store with that Calves Bucks. We'll
talk about that later, all right. Joining us now eron Torres,
Fox Sports Radio Weekend hosts, of course, covered all things
college sports for us.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Aaron, what's up man?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Happy holidays? What's happening, buddy?
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Happy holidays to you guys. Robbie Pucks Huh, I never
heard you talk hockey before, Roberts, Yes, yes, hey, ma, I.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Gotta remember I wore you in hockey town.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I worked in hockey town for twenty years, covered plenty
of Stanley Cup games.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Everything you know that I covered, Oh you know.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
What it is, I've never missed. You saw hockey because
I've never because what's the old.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I don't know how that's right.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I've never about hockey right there? Anyway, All right, let's
let's get to the let's get to the Indiana Notre
Dame game. And am I wrong to think that this
could be closed or is Notre Dame gonna blaw Indiana
because they're a basketball school and this was just a
fluke season.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Well, I mean, I don't know they're a basketball score anymore. Man. No,
I mean, oh, for a long time ago.
Speaker 10 (37:40):
No.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
You know what I would say really quick is, first
of all, Indiana the defense has been phenomenal all year.
I mean you look at that Ohio State game that
everybody points to. Uh honestate didn't break three hundred yards
of total offense until the final drive of the game.
And so I think that for your pick, specifically, Rob,
the combination of the weather is obviously everybody's been talking
(38:01):
about it all week. I think both teams want to
run the football. Indiana is the number one run defense
in college football. I'm actually more on team Rob on
this one. I think it's close. I think it's low scoring.
I actually do like that pick. I think this one's
gonna be close to the people.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Think, Hey, Aaron, I was just telling Rob how I
believe the reason why this game you mentioned would be
close and some other games. And I think just even
throughout the season, the college transfer portal has changed where
teams that you look at, Colorado, Indiana, you can change
your destiny very quickly, your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
You're on the college transfer portal is good?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Bad?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I don't think you're a fan, are you?
Speaker 7 (38:39):
I mean, I listen. I was literally on the phone
with the coach an hour ago. I think there are
certain you know, players that probably I don't know that
go to three or four schools in five years is
great for anybody, but it makes for more entertainment. And
Kelvin I would put it the other way as well.
It's not only that Indiana can completely flip its program
in a year, or Colorado or whoever. It's that the
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Georgia is the texass whoever. They're not as invincible as
they've once been. You know, I obviously host on Saturday
nights and you know we're you know, there were nights
where we were coming off games and Georgia looks unbeatable
and they're the favorite and then a week later they lose,
and Alabama looks unbeatable, and then they lose, and you
go on and on down the list, and so I
think the portal has certainly planned the playing field, no doubt,
(39:21):
And I do think that from a parody perspective, there's
no doubt that it is created, you know, more balance
in the sport, which I think, in turn creates more interest.
So I'm either ya, no, yay, nor nay on the portal.
I think it does create some issues that probably don't
get talked about enough, but certainly from a balance and
parody perspective, there's no doubt that it's helped both college
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football and college basketball, and I think you're seeing it
in this tournament where I really think of the twelve
teams in the playoff, I'm not saying every single one
can win it, but there really isn't that much of
a gap between even the teams that we think are
the favorites, like Oregon Georgia, and the teams right behind them.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
So I still think that ultimately to the big schools
will wind up prevailing big time, and then people will
look because we've seen nothing but bad, bad, a lot
of bad lopsided games, but we'll have to see. I
know we're gonna run out of time, Aeron, but thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I appreciate you guys having me, yep enjoy some good
football man hopefully over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Hopefully the games will bearable.
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You know what, games haven't been bariled with a lot
of people. They say the NBA games haven't been bearable.
Lebron had something to say so that JJ Reddick will
tell you what it was.
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I'm only laughing because I'm laughing out of pain with you.
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Brother. This boy.
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Let me tell you something. We're gonna earn our stripes.
When did you guys know that you can make it
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flu game.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
We blow.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
But you know what, the bullster won that.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Rob. They still want it, they still want it. They
got the job done. They showed up and you are
a massive mentor to people. I am myself as well,
and we're gonna show the young people that this is
how you push through, Rob, This is how you push
through when you're down. You still come and you show
up to work and you still put up thirty.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
No doubt, and we are gonna make it happen. So
it's great to be back on after a day off
for both of us yesterday. But all is well. A
lot to do on this funky flashback Friday. Aaron Torres
of course Fox Sports Radio Weekend hosts and the guru
for college football and basketball. He'll be along coming up.
(02:42):
That's in about twenty seven minutes or so. Sean King
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(03:05):
last call, and of course NFL pig Skin pickoff.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Will do all that as well.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
But first, let's welcome in the Odd Couple crew because
Kelvin we wouldn't be able to do this find radio
program without him. Rob g is our producer, Alex is
our engineer, Steve de Sager, but we got Barn Animals
Steve de Sager's he's the anchor desk. He'll keep us
updated throughout the program. And Elijah ever social.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Media agree with. We've heard of him. He does a
great job.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Who social So, how are you feeling, buddy? Before we
get into this real quick?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Are you doing? Okay? Yeah, I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
But listen, because we're family, I'm gonna tell you in advance.
I apologize if in the middle of me going at Rob,
I say in another another thing, Rob, just you know, hey,
it's about to be three hours. I feel good, feel better.
Let me let me rephrase that, I feel better better
than I anticipated and I had the last couple of days.
(04:03):
But yet and still you know, little remnants. So bear
with me in for any point, you know, I say
one time.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
Or two, I got it because I'm I'm in that
same boat. But I'm feeling one hundred percent better and
I haven't been waking up in a pool of water
and any of that. I don't have a sore throat.
I'm happy and I'll be good. Uh you know over
the weekend, ken, Yeah, so our weekdal good and stuff.
I even got out today and did a couple of
(04:31):
things that I needed to get done so that you.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Get a deal that we'll know you're back if you
got a deal. Did you go get a deal?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
No, I didn't. I wish I would have gotten a deal, but.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Out of major field boy would have fifty instead of
thirty tonight if he if he had gotten the deal,
know it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But no, man, I'm good. It feels good. Missed you guys,
So uh yeah, I'm ready to rock and roll.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And and and we'll see we'll get into it.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
But the college football playoff, Steve the Saka just mentioned
about to kick.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Off about an hour and this is what you guys
all wanted.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
Uh, you know most of these playoff games, as Rob
G and I have, you know, giving you the list
for years on.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
This show about how most of them are lopsided and
bad the games.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
And now here we go with widening the net Indiana
at Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Is that going to be a good game or is
that going to be a blowout?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
And it'll continue So I'm interested to see, you know,
like if this is just warning too much thinning out
the pool or whatnot.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
So we'll get there as well.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
But let's start with the NFL and Aaron Rodgers and
just all that Jets talk and the owner and Rob G.
Can you just kind of fill us in on you know,
like they pulled the curtain back at the Jets and
it wasn't a pretty picture.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And for all people who don't know.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I grew up in New York, I grew up as
a Jets fan. I followed this team kelvin when I
was in high school. I did not work on Sundays
at the shoe store Nickels Stride right on Queens Boulevard.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
I'm a sixteen yeard. Oh God, tell the boss.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
I'll work any day for you, but no Sundays during football.
That's how big of a football fan I was. Okay,
so I was really into it and all that, and
the Jets with my team.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
I've been in this business a long time.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I don't root for teams, but I know that this
franchise has been dysfunctional for a long time.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
But Rob g just clue us in on some of
the stuff that has come out.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, it's actually a combination of two stories. One of
them the big one that we talked about yesterday. Show
you guys are both off. I'm in the Athletic. I
never missed the couple when we're not high.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Now I know you don't.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
But The Athletic published a long form piece talking about
the Jets dysfunction with the Keen Eye focused on owner
Woody Johnson. A few highlights that you guys might appreciate.
According to The Athletic, Woody Johnson used Madden ratings to
justify making trades or not making trades and free agency decisions.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
How sick is that he's just one of us.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
He's just one of us.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Number two.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
He used his two teenage sons as advisors on team matters,
both including the roster and front office decisions. Johnson forced
coaching staff to make certain roster decisions, including benching their
starting safety middle of the season this year.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And number four.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Woody Johnson, according to The Athletic, had friends and family
member in the locker room after games wins and losses,
and would occasionally criticize players in the locker room to
their face, not to be outdone. About an hour after
this article dropped, was The Bombshell covered a lot of
different shows on the network. ESPN published their own piece
(07:33):
and they rank what they believed to be the most damming, yeah,
worst decisions that any team has made over the last
five years. Reach roster, the number three overall of all
the thirty teams, and the number one moved by the Jets.
What they believe set them back more than anything they've
done last five years was the acquisition of Aaron Rodgers.
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So it got me thinking, guys, do you will agree
that Aaron Rodgers at this point, given what we seen
him with lind the Seas, Withoody Johnson, is he getting
a little too much blame for what's gone wrong in
New York This season.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
I'll start and I'll say, absolutely, he's getting too much blame.
The Jets have been dysfunctional for a long time.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And here's the issue.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Yes, he was supposed to be this white horse coming
in rob g can you can look it up. In
about five of their losses, the defense gave up a
winning drive at the end of every game. It's as
good as the defense was a couple of years ago.
It just didn't live up to it. But there's so
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much dysfunction that goes there, and here Aaron Rodgers has
become the NFL's pinata. People have gone out of their.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Way to try to discredit this guy who's one of
the greatest.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Throwers of the football, whether you like him, whether you
despise him, because he lied and said he was vaccinated
and he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That hurt his standing with a lot of.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
People, and rightfully so to talk about that in that vein,
you know, during that time where people you don't know
if they had grandparents or people who are sick, you know,
and you just wanted to know who's vaccinated who's not.
I thought that was bad, but it's been a piling on.
Of course, last year he got hurt in four snaps,
(09:23):
so that kind of you know, that season went by
the wayside. I don't know if you can blame him
for getting hurt, you know, when the offensive line couldn't
protect him. He was hurried on three or the four
snaps that he had before he got hurt. And then
this year, while his numbers and his play is not good,
no one's here trying to defend it. I'll tell you
(09:44):
just for comparison, go look at Patrick Mahomes's numbers compared
to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
They're identical.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
One guy is the worst in the world and the
other guy is the greatest quarterback who ever played.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
And I'm not you know me, we've tackled the Patrick
Mahomes numbers here. We don't have all these rosy glasses
like a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You've even admitted when looking as much as you like him,
that his numbers aren't good, haven't been up to par,
and just not good. And no one would, no other
show would even go there to tell you that. Go
look for yourself. And I'm not saying that he's played
great and he's done everything right. That's not but it
(10:28):
was He's a pinata because of the stuff on Pat McAfee,
you know, making his appearance push him back. Every seemed
like every week on somebody, there's always some dispute. There's
a lot of outside stuff, and then people try to
discredit him as if he hasn't won a Super Bowl,
he hasn't won four MVPs, he doesn't have the greatest
(10:51):
touchdown the interception, like, there's so many things we talk
about his career.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And I think he's just an easy target at this point.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
What so you brought up a couple of good points.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
But one of the things I think that he can't
be victim the victim in is the same thing he
was the praise in, and that is that quarterbacks get
most of the praise, quarterbacks get most of the criticism.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
That's just the name of the game.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I give you an example, Sam Donald right now, like
he all MVP candidate because the Vikings are having an
amazing season, we don't tell on the defense. But I'm
saying people are saying that we don't talk about the
defense that much. We don't talk about the running game. Well,
they haven't arguably the best receiver, we don't talk about him.
It's just look at Sam Donald. This is what he's doing.
(11:39):
The Buffalo Bills have an amazing season. What is it,
Josh allen Man, look at the Patrick Mahomes always makes
the play within Patrick Patrick, Patrick Patrick, and this is
what we do. The quarterbacks get all the praise, turn
it around, they get all the criticism. So Aaron Rodgers,
truth be told, he ain't used to He should be
used to this. This ain't nothing new to him. He
should be understanding what comes with the job. I'm gonna
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get a whole lot of praise like I did eighty
five ninety percent of the time that I was in
Green Bay, but also I'll get some criticism.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What doesn't help him is the fact you mentioned it
when Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
Was with the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
One of the things that's become interesting is people are like, oh,
he's got a personality.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh he's funnier than I thought.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Oh he's lively er, he's more a little more irreverent
than I thought. Because he just went in did his
business win or lose. Aaron Rodgers, to his credit, that's
his choice. He's always in the media, he's always doing this.
He always gives an opinion about everything, and that is
literally his choice. I don't have a problem with it.
But what comes with that is the scrutiny that comes
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along with that people will have with it.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Same thing with Lebron.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Lebron chooses to put his head and his voice in everything. Hey,
political things, Hey, other sports, Hey this, Hey social commentary.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
That's his right. So what happens is man, stick.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
To basketball, or man, you doing this, or if you
focus on this basketball instead of this, you'd be doing
better with the greats. It happens with people with prominent
names when you started to do so many other things,
We're gonna pinpoint. And it's one of those things. Him
doing all of this and not winning, you know that
wins and losses.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
If he were winning and he came.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And saved the Jets, none of it would matter that
he was doing the Pat McAfee or that he had
these conspiracies or that he was.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Doing I'll give you that.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
I'll give you that, but you cannot let the Jets
ownership off the hook.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And no, I'm not getting off so I'm talking about that.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Well, but that's what But that's what That's what I'm saying,
is like, no matter what, And I brought up the point,
Rob g and I don't know if you could figure
it out or find out how many of like they
were literally the Patriots game that they marched down on
the deep, like they had to lead right the Patriots
get the ball, they marched down, scored, scored the game.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
With a touchdown. You can't. You could take a look.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
At the football game and say, oh, Aaron Rodgers lost again.
You can look at the Indianapolis game. I could give
you like five games where the team that held the
ball last, the Jets, the visiting team, or the opponent
watched down on that defense and won the game in
which they had a lead in the game, in the
game they lost to was it Denver with.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
A kick or missed a chip shot. They have played,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They're the AFC version of the Bears, and that they've
played better than their record at times. Caleb Williams has
produced more than the record would show at times. But
the end result all of us go, oh, they're terrible.
When you're like, no, did you watch the game they
actually should have won or they had a chance to win.
The other thing I'll say to your point, that's the
other choice that makes this difficult is that Aaron chose
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to go to the Jets, knowing it was a dysfunctioned organization,
knowing that this is where they haven't had a history
of winning.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Tom Brady went to the Bucks, who have been.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Successful over the last fifteen to twenty years, who you know, had.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Everything about I don't look at it. I gotta say.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
So.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
What I'm saying is he went to an organization to
you to your point, that has been not well run,
that hasn't had this success. And it's like, well, dude,
why'd you go there? You see here, Dan Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Here's my pushback.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Kawhi Leonard went to an organization that never won anything.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And ain't no no no.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
But he could have gone because some people don't want
the easy path. Some people want to be in a
situation where they try to be the difference and turn.
Tom Brady looked around and took the easiest path. He
looked like the Bucks and said, they got a good defense,
that got great receivers. All they got to do is
stop the quarterback from throwing thirty in the shan.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
He was forty something. That's all he wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I ain't twenty eight trying to you know, do this
for another ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
That's what he did, and that's what Aaron schue go.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You should have go to one of these teams and
make that happen Matthew Stafford with the Rams. But uh,
but the ownership is trapped. When you got your sons
telling you what to do and also looking at Madden,
that is comical. And I thought you would be a
little bit more excited because he is part of the
Johnson and Johnson family who provide us with baby So
I did think you would show them a little bit
more love.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
No, well, I'm not paying for ninety five for baby O.
I want the ninety nine cent baby or same stuff.
It don't last the same, Rob, it's the same stuff.
It field last the same. I'll tell you that, all right.
Is Aaron Rodgers getting too much blame for the New
York Jets dysfunction.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
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All right, we're talking about Aaron Rodgers Woody Johnson, who
is the owner of the Jets.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Who's more to blame? Is it? Is it Aaron?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Is it the organization? Eight seven seven ninety nine on
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Speaker 5 (17:37):
All right, let's get started with Drew in New Jersey.
You're in the eye.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drew?
Speaker 9 (17:44):
Hey, how's it going guys, it's definitely Woody Johnson. However,
I do agree with what Rob said. I think the
whole COVID nineteen thing has blown it out of proportion
for Aaron Rodgers. And it's not just how he plays,
because people attack his leadership like they say, I heard
Nick right say he's the worst leader in sports. I mean,
let's let's like if you played videos of first things
(18:07):
first like from like five years ago, total opposite, it's
the Packers are letting down. Aaron Rodgers did this. Yes,
the only thing I can compare it to is, uh,
you know I was I was too young. I mean
maybe OJ Simpson, How was maybe Robbie? You know, how
was OJ Simpson viewed prior to burging people?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Right?
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Oh, no, Darling, he was every TV commercials, making movies
everything but but but Drew, You're one hundred percent right,
And you could go back and see in those games
at the playoff games, Rob G and I have talked
about this, Kelvin, Thanks for the call, Drew, and Uh,
Aaron Rodgers, there's like four playoff games where he didn't
(18:55):
get the ball, Like he tied the game right late
in the game, never got the ball. Defense gave it up,
never got the ball in overtime. This before they change
the rules. But let me just give you some of
the numbers I was just telling you about yards. Mahomes
tenth in the league in yards Aaron Rodgers eleven. Aaron
Rodgers has more touchdowns than Patrick Mahomes twenty three to
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twenty two. Aaron Rodgers has less interceptions than Mahomes eight
to eleven, and passer rating Rogers is ninety point eight
Mahomes is ninety one. So obviously winning is the cure.
All people will look past everything when you win. But
I'm just trying to say, people make it as if
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if no one will say not us on this show,
But most people remember what got into it with Trey Wingo,
who would have didn't want to acknowledge that he wasn't
playing well, you know. And then if you're gonna say
that Aaron Rodgers isn't playing well, which is fine if
that's your you got to say.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
That Pat Mahomes isn't playing well either. That's all I say.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, I just think the only thing I would say
out to that is again, I think Aaron Rodgers is
playing better than the narrative. I'll give you that. I
think the difference is winning plays. And I think that's
the issue, is that Patrick mahomes every game probably annoying.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
When he plays like a missfield goal, that's that's.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Not as far but that's he can't control that.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I'm talking about plays that he can control, and he'll
make a winning play, whether it's the two they're up,
they're up two points, he gets.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
Block field goal, that's another absolutely.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
The past, he literally only does it two three times
a game. Now four times. He doesn't do it like
he used to. But that's ultimately what happens with sleeves
to win.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
And again I think it's I think it's overblown when
you look at the Chiefs wins. There are a lot
of games that he has nothing to do with why
they want won a loss. And I'm talking about ultimately
at the end of the games, and if you ever
look at him on the sideline, he's relieved because he
knows that he absolutely.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And they got lucky to lose without without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
But also he has the equity of being the double
currently raining super Bowl winning team right now.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Yeah, but it's not a lifetime achievement.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
No, but that's not even a lifetime ago, that's current.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
And you know what I'm saying, He's currently the super
Bowl champs, so we're not gonna but but he's only
lost one game. Rob, Come on, you can't be the
double raining super Bowl champ and only I.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Just gave you the stats though, I just you know
what I'm saying that equity period.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
They're bad. Aaron Rodgers stats, they're bad. Patrick Mahomes stats.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
They're gonna but you, Rob, you too, You're too smart
to not know this is gonna buy you equity.
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All right, Steve Sager is gonna give us what trending
we got Aaron Torres right all round that as well.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Hello gentlemen, Steve.
Speaker 10 (21:55):
We've got Indiana and Notre Dame coming up pretty good
because I'm indoors and these college football playoffs are outdoors
in the twenties. Switch game at Penn State tomorrow and
Ohio State tomorrow night and Notre Dame tonight. We'll see
if there's any snow by the end of the game.
But this matchup, you know the schools, they're in the
same state, and they're two hundred miles apart, and rob
they've played each other once since nineteen fifty eight, so it's.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Crazy bring it up.
Speaker 10 (22:19):
But Indiana is not a football school, right, very much
a basketball school in very much a basketball state. And
yet we've got eleven in one Indiana against eleven and
one Notre Dame.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Tonight, Steve, let me say this real quick.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
You're talking about the press twenty degrees or whatever for
a Browns Jets playoff game. The press box was so antiquated,
had no elevator, so you had to leave with four
minutes to go to be able to get through the
crowd to get downstairs.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Otherwise you can't make it right. So we start to leave.
Speaker 5 (22:50):
We walked down the stairs through the crowd, and of
course the game goes into overtime and all the writers
have to stand in the coal.
Speaker 10 (22:58):
This is Bernie those our playoff.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Right, Yes, yep, jetson Party called.
Speaker 10 (23:03):
That absolutely right. But you have to go back for
a while. You know, we're at Jets playoff game. There
have been only so many of those. Mark Sanchez ain't
walking through that door. No, yeah, recks a couple. Okay, sure,
that's pretty much the highlight of the last thirty years.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
We do have of those first world problems, Steve he's
talking about, Yes, sports, it was sold.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
It was cold. My god, I was young and I
was cold. I was cold.
Speaker 10 (23:31):
Just for the record, I'm guessing the players are cold
this week and it's probably more than five minutes stand
there like, yeah, yeah, well some writers can't move around
this year if we can be well, I mean, let's
just say that when I was a young media guy,
(23:53):
always getting into, for example, the baseball press box. Who
sits in the first row of a baseball press box
the most veteran writers, Yes, And I noticed that physically
there was something that was reflected in most of those
writers that sat in the first row.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
And Steve eating vegetable since.
Speaker 10 (24:12):
It's just there's a lesson to be learned there, That's
all I'm saying. We had a couple of regular old
college football bowl games today. Florida beat Tulane thirty three
to eight, Ohio U over Jacksonville State thirty to twenty seven.
Michael Vick is officially the new head coach at Norfolk State,
close to his hometown. The Ravens cut wide receiver Deontay Johnson.
There are two NFL games Saturday, including Pittsburgh at Baltimore
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on Fox TV four thirty pm Eastern time. The Steelers
would clinch the AFC North title with a win. Steelers
wide receiver George Pickens still out with the bad hamstring.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
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Speaker 3 (24:47):
Steve.
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Speaker 5 (25:16):
Would you say, Rob, what your what's your expectation for
the football college playoffs? Do you expect good games, blowouts
like we've seen in the past.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Yeah, good question.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
I think because you know, the net is spread farther,
you know, And yeah, just brought it up.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Indiana and Notre Dame.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Haven't played played one time in fifty some odd years,
which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
I think Indiana is not They're they're a good team.
I don't think they're a spectacular team, but also don't
think one. Yeah, but I also but we saw what
I mean they played Ohio State and god mileywat uh so, uh,
this should be this should listen, we know what this is. Rob,
You and I are going to have this conversation in
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maybe two years where it's gone from twelve to eighteen,
you know, maybe a just literally double its a twenty four.
Uh and I remember just hearing last week.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Twenty four college teams that should be up for the chimp.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
But Rob, you know this, Remember March madness what it
used to be. Now it's sixty four. What is sixty eight?
Now they're talking about ad and expanded into seventies. It's
about to get ridiculous in a minute. And so at
the end of the day, when money is always going
to be the common denominator or the root of the
reason for the change.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
When does it in right? When does it in, so
you know what, you know what it.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Ends when when people stand up, everybody doesn't take the
old mighty dollar. Okay, I've said this to you before.
I respect the Dodgers organization for not renaming Dodgers Stadium
American Express Stadium. I respect the New York Yankees. They
could get a pretty penny to rename Yankee Stadium and
they refuse to do it. The Yankees have the same uniform,
(26:56):
kelvin the same never change their uniform from day one.
Why if the Yankees made a black jersey or whatever
it is. They can make a ton of money and whatnot.
They don't have to do that. You don't have to
Everything can't be shouldn't be for sale. That's all I'm saying.
And I understand capitalistic society. People want to see you
(27:17):
up whatever they can do, but this should you should
at some point draw a line and say, okay enough.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Like the best part about it rob you.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
No, you're right, but is that we act as if
this is gonna be Ah. This is the thing that
actually determined a college football you know, number one team
and actual champion. Like I feel like we're always gonna
have those outs of why this didn't work. Well, it
really wasn't because you left out a team, you know, Florida,
Florida doesn't make okay, they're mad about about Florida's day. Miami, Miami,
(27:48):
the cam Ward is mad. Miami doesn't make it. They
were right there. They should be in Alabama, shouldn't be
in Alabama, shouldn't be in And like you're always gonna
have this reason as to why people don't feel as
if it's legitimate. But in the sake of the game's sake,
hopefully like Ohio State Tennessee, that's hopefully that that should
be a good one, at least on paper. Looking forward
to that. Uh, this Indiana notre to day, may he surprises.
(28:10):
Maybe they're equally matched more than we know. They haven't
played in you know, half a century or more. Uh,
so that could be something where we're surprised. Uh, Penn
State SMU, you know, potentially could be a good one
as well. I mean, I'm hoping that even if there's
a you know, a mismatch, it's not like when you
get that finally get that mismatch in March Madness where
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we've seen the miss just and destroys them.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
You know, Yeah, but we've.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
Seen the mismatches when it was just four teams.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Do you remember a couple of years ago when Michigan played,
they got demolished.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
You gotta bring that up.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Yeah, but I got it them just but you know
what I'm saying, there was only four teams and they
were lopsided.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
The one that got right.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
The thing that will give me optimism, rob.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Is the College Transferred Portal, Because you're getting teams that
become good way faster than we thought. You're getting teams
that or at least really really competitive faster than we thought,
or getting a quarterback they would never get normally.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
So I'm hoping that this transfer portal makes it where
some of these.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Teams, like for instance, SMU Indiana, we know how they
got good so fast. You know, you look at uh Colorado,
right they out of the blue. They won two games,
then they went four, Now they went eight or nine.
Like this transfer portal did change and kind of level
the playing field. Like you it won't always level it
(29:36):
for a small school versus Alabama small school versus Ohio
State small school versus you know, Texas kind of a
thing like that. But you're getting some teams that have
some players on there that they normally wouldn't and they're
getting them instantly, and I think that may surprise us
where we go, oh, well, shoot, this was a better
game than I thought it would be, or oh they lost,
but they were competitive, they were they kept in the
(29:56):
game because you got guys that are really good that
just matt It didn't get time in another school or
mad the coach said this, or mad they didn't get
the n I n I L money.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
They were promised.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So I think you're gonna get some more uh more
talented players on rosters that historically wouldn't have it.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
What'd you think of? We know Colorado didn't make it,
but at one point it looked like they were short
right there? Right?
Speaker 5 (30:19):
They lost, They lost the games that they should thought
people thought they should have won. How do you look
at this season though, like, like what's happened there?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
If Dion chooses to stay, if coach Prime is there,
he doesn't leave, and he you know, he says he's
not and let's just for whatever reason's taken for his word, Well,
that's gonna be huge. You have the current Heisman Trophy winner,
Your son is gonna be a what top three four
five draft pick, you'll probably have another player picked, and
(30:52):
then you know a couple in the draft, and you
won a bunch of games were historically you hadn't and
you did it in such fast rate. Like I think
we because of the name of Prime and who he is,
and he's always in the media, like.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I think we forget dude.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
They were really really bad the last few years, you
know what I mean, prior prior. I mean, you go
back to them before he got there, Dude, they won.
But I wonder, though, this is one game the year
before he got there.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
What is if his son and Travis Hunter is not there?
Those are those are program changing kind of players. You
don't get those guys all the time, is what I'm saying.
I'm not saying deep Dion can't recoup some other players,
but those are some special players. And you just wonder,
if you're Dion, maybe you got to get out of dodge,
(31:42):
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
We have to having those guys well.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
But see, I'm looking at it as you know. I've
just been going over there. Their records over the last
few year, but they had before he got there. They
won one game the year before that, three games year
before that three games. So I think what you're looking
at is a now situation where with coach Prime and
you got the best player in college football, cried on
your shoulder, talk about how much you meant to him.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Literally can't stop seeing your praises. You changed my life.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You don't understand that people see that stuff and they say,
man ain't not to mention he's He's Prime. You know,
he's got that personality. He cares about you. He's very
father figurely. Like I think all that bowls well and
in him getting some some some playoffs, but.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
That doesn't mean a player like Travis Hunter going to
show up again. I hear what you're saying it can't hurt,
But I'm saying he had something. And even with the
with the Hedgsman Trophy winner and his son or whatever,
they still didn't even make the college football playoffs despite
a nine to three record.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
I don't know what if if that's a positive or
a negative. Do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Like, No, I get what you say, like you, but
I'm saying, if you would have told the entire state
of Colorado we had a we had a color Uh,
come on and recently talk about that. How Colorado's all
we you know, he was saying, like that's just kind
of all we have, Like we're just we love that team.
And he was just saying, how dude, they're so embedded
in the community, Coach Prime and his players and the
(33:07):
way they are with the team, the fans, and if
you told them, hey, we're gonna win six games and
be Bowl eligible data and like that's what's what the
callers said. He said, Man, we'd be so excited because
a Bowl game for us is a big deal, whereas
Ohio State Alabama, it's a national championship you're competing for
for us, just to get the ball. My alma mater
is Eastern Michigan. Shout out to Max Crosby. He's like
(33:29):
the best player we've had come out of there in
quite some time. As you know, who's covered the state
of Michigan for twenty years, you were there Eastern Michigan
at once every ten to fifteen years. Don't have a
player one of the sports that's worth talking about. If
all of a sudden, Eastern Michigan was just regularly nine
to three, eight and four, dude, that would be mind boggling.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Like we're like, whoa, And so I know nine and
three might not be Ohio State worthy Alabama.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
That's incredible, incredible for Colorado. In fact, like I said,
they would take a couple of games less than that. Shoot,
they'll take seven and five. They're relevant, They're on national TV.
We're talking about them, their players are getting drafted. I
think Coach Prime Jackson State was a hit, Left goes
to Colorado a hit, was a hit when he was
(34:17):
doing Pop Warner had all these players. I just think
at some point, you want to know how far can
this hit keep rolling?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Right?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
If you can?
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I and my Michael Jackson, I got to go leave
the Jackson five and go solo, cat win solo.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Can I drop off the wall?
Speaker 7 (34:32):
Ca?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
I did it?
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Can I drop a thriller?
Speaker 1 (34:34):
And I'm wondering if that's so some point it's Coach
Prime not gonna say, let me see if this good faith,
this good track record will send me to the pros.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
So hey, we're.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
Gonna break Eric Torres hopefully around the corner and also
Shekel City as well. It's your boys, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington,
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a second. But right now, Shekel City.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Welcome to Shekel City, the home base for Rob Parker's
daily dicks against the scrap.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Excuse me, feel sick? All right, checko city. Let's do it.
Last time I went to case and how it? Wait? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Last time we uh my god, last time we did
Shekel City.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
I was zero and three that time.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
My two hockey games in their bad days, ninety seven
ninety three and three is the record. I got Indiana
plus seven and a half. I'm hoping, I'm thinking it's
not gonna be a blowout.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Notre Dame wins.
Speaker 5 (36:11):
But I got Indiana plus seven and a half, Cavaliers
minus nine and a half. They host the Bucks, and
I got the Hornets plus twelve and a half. They're
in Philadelphia to take on the seventy six ers. So
Hornets plus twelve and a half, Cavaliers plus nine and
I mean minus nine and a half, that's right, and
Indiana plus seven and a half. And remember, I'm not
(36:32):
telling you who the bet on Kelvin. I'm telling you
who I bet on.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
That was the crazy store with that Calves Bucks. We'll
talk about that later, all right. Joining us now eron Torres,
Fox Sports Radio Weekend hosts, of course, covered all things
college sports for us.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Aaron, what's up man?
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Happy holidays? What's happening, buddy?
Speaker 7 (36:49):
Happy holidays to you guys. Robbie Pucks Huh, I never
heard you talk hockey before, Roberts, Yes, yes, hey, ma, I.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Gotta remember I wore you in hockey town.
Speaker 5 (37:00):
I worked in hockey town for twenty years, covered plenty
of Stanley Cup games.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Everything you know that I covered, Oh you know.
Speaker 7 (37:07):
What it is, I've never missed. You saw hockey because
I've never because what's the old.
Speaker 3 (37:14):
I don't know how that's right.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
I've never about hockey right there? Anyway, All right, let's
let's get to the let's get to the Indiana Notre
Dame game. And am I wrong to think that this
could be closed or is Notre Dame gonna blaw Indiana
because they're a basketball school and this was just a
fluke season.
Speaker 7 (37:33):
Well, I mean, I don't know they're a basketball score anymore. Man. No,
I mean, oh, for a long time ago.
Speaker 10 (37:40):
No.
Speaker 7 (37:40):
You know what I would say really quick is, first
of all, Indiana the defense has been phenomenal all year.
I mean you look at that Ohio State game that
everybody points to. Uh honestate didn't break three hundred yards
of total offense until the final drive of the game.
And so I think that for your pick, specifically, Rob,
the combination of the weather is obviously everybody's been talking
(38:01):
about it all week. I think both teams want to
run the football. Indiana is the number one run defense
in college football. I'm actually more on team Rob on
this one. I think it's close. I think it's low scoring.
I actually do like that pick. I think this one's
gonna be close to the people.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Think, Hey, Aaron, I was just telling Rob how I
believe the reason why this game you mentioned would be
close and some other games. And I think just even
throughout the season, the college transfer portal has changed where
teams that you look at, Colorado, Indiana, you can change
your destiny very quickly, your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
You're on the college transfer portal is good?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Bad?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I don't think you're a fan, are you?
Speaker 7 (38:39):
I mean, I listen. I was literally on the phone
with the coach an hour ago. I think there are
certain you know, players that probably I don't know that
go to three or four schools in five years is
great for anybody, but it makes for more entertainment. And
Kelvin I would put it the other way as well.
It's not only that Indiana can completely flip its program
in a year, or Colorado or whoever. It's that the
(39:00):
Georgia is the texass whoever. They're not as invincible as
they've once been. You know, I obviously host on Saturday
nights and you know we're you know, there were nights
where we were coming off games and Georgia looks unbeatable
and they're the favorite and then a week later they lose,
and Alabama looks unbeatable, and then they lose, and you
go on and on down the list, and so I
think the portal has certainly planned the playing field, no doubt,
(39:21):
And I do think that from a parody perspective, there's
no doubt that it is created, you know, more balance
in the sport, which I think, in turn creates more interest.
So I'm either ya, no, yay, nor nay on the portal.
I think it does create some issues that probably don't
get talked about enough, but certainly from a balance and
parody perspective, there's no doubt that it's helped both college
(39:41):
football and college basketball, and I think you're seeing it
in this tournament where I really think of the twelve
teams in the playoff, I'm not saying every single one
can win it, but there really isn't that much of
a gap between even the teams that we think are
the favorites, like Oregon Georgia, and the teams right behind them.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
So I still think that ultimately to the big schools
will wind up prevailing big time, and then people will
look because we've seen nothing but bad, bad, a lot
of bad lopsided games, but we'll have to see. I
know we're gonna run out of time, Aeron, but thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, I appreciate.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I appreciate you guys having me, yep enjoy some good
football man hopefully over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Hopefully the games will bearable.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
You know what, games haven't been bariled with a lot
of people. They say the NBA games haven't been bearable.
Lebron had something to say so that JJ Reddick will
tell you what it was.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
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