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Speaker 1 (02:22):
Of course, his name is.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Elvinas in what's uker, brother, what's happening?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm good man. You know.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
One of the things we like about in life is stability.
We like some things to be routine. And seeing you
with the forty ounce of diet coke whatever is you drink,
I feel good even though you're we're across states. It's
good to see some things don't change.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
No, always got to do that. And my name is
Rob Parker. Okay, I just want to make sure we're
on the same page.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Es, Yeah, we got you.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
All is good, That's right.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
That's usually what happens on a TV theme song Thursday,
JJ was the star of the show. He stole that show. Yeah,
I'm uh from esther role and John Amos you know
they hated him, I know.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Let me ask you this, though, would you rather be
that Carlton the progressive lady flow where you're stuck in
this role forever like this is.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
All I am now, I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
This and I got to be Dino miight until I'm
eighty eight? Or would you rather cad do a bunch
of different things and express your creativity as an actor,
as a thesbian?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Which one would you rather have? Rob Parker?
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Well, unfortunately, most people, even those actors who get to
work a lot, people don't know them as for any
one thing.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I'm not talking about a big time If.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You're saying a big time Hollywood actor or a bit
or a sitcom star for five years, obviously you would
take the Hollywood actor. But work think there's anything I
don't think there's anything wrong with being iconic and people
knowing you forever, and I get it. It could be
annoying or whatnot. But what was her name on Cheers
(04:03):
who left to do movies?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah? I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
I forgot her name, but yes, and Vito's wife, Shelley
her name with Shelley Long.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Shelley Long left a hit show that went on for
ten or eleven years, Cheers, one of the all time sitcoms,
to go do movies and that bombed out. I'm just saying,
what are you like to have a run of ten
or eleven years with a sitcom and not have to
work ever?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Again, I'm kind of cool with that.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Hey, I'm not mad at that either.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
I'm not mad at either, especially Flow because she's getting
the checks still flowing in.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah. Flow has been there for What was the other
guy with the.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Verizon is it? Can you hear me now?
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I mean he did that and.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Then switched over to the other company after they dropped
it Withers.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It happens in sports, it happens in commercials.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Who's the other guy on State Farm? What's the guy's name?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Who?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Jake?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
They got the black guy that.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Plays Jake because that wasn't the original Jacobs. It was
the white guy and then they went to the black Jake.
I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
And now that guy Jake, I just see him game everywhere.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
He's way game weight buff way.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, he's been in a gym like that. That Jake
is like swollen ja. He's like he got some of
that state farm money and got a personal trader.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
But he's what you call it now, But that's all
he's gonna be like.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Yeah, he's been doing turned down the doors acting anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
But yeah, let's let's think of that.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, let's welcome in the odd couple crew, because we
wouldn't be able to do this fine radio program without him.
Ian is in for Rob g as our producer today,
one of my former students at USC doing his thing
at Fox Sports Radio. Of course, Alex is our engineer
as always. Uh, Steve de Seger is the update desk.
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He'll keep up updated throughout the program. Of course, we
got baseball big games where teams can move on. The
Yankees win, they move on, the Tigers win, they move on.
So we got a lot of that going on. And
of course Elijah is our social media guru. All right,
let's start with the news of the day, Delvin, let's
(06:05):
start with there. So here's one of my issues I
have with people. It's one thing to you know, I'm
big on reporting, trying to figure out, you know, what's happened, and.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
If you have insight to something, I think it's good.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
But the narrative yesterday was Aaron Rodgers, you know, had
Robert solid fired because he didn't want Nathaniel Hackett demoted.
Would you agree with that that that was an overriding
conversation that was out there.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
I wouldn't exactly use the term hat as much as
he didn't stop it. He didn't jump in the middle
of it. He didn't say this is my guy, I'm
sticking up for more. So.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, but I'm talking about the Hacket part, that that
that Hackett was going to get demoted.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
The owner called up and.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Said, this is what Robert, this is what the story
that I heard other.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
People repeating in that case, Yeah, you're talking about that
that end.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I thought we were talking more.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Something ye yeah, No, No, I'm talking about the Hacket that
he saved his guy Hacket from being demoted and totally
owned to get rid of Robert Salah because he wanted
to demote Hackett. And obviously Aaron Rodgers won two MVBS
with Hackett, but offensively they got issues. This is why
(07:30):
I'm saying what the Jets to me are doing is
trying to save the season. When you're not playing well,
nobody's safe.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Nobody what Aaron.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Rodgers can't save an offensive coordinator where you're not scoring
and you're not moving to football and you're not producing.
I just don't Nobody can go in and say, you
know what do they say the NFL.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Stands for not for long.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Because it's production based business.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
I say it all the time on this show. Sports
has a short menu. Kelvin wins and losses.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You could sit here and talk about how if we
only had this enough that ball and go through his legs.
All that sounds good and nice. It's about production. Did
you win, did you lose? If you didn't win enough,
guess what you're going to be out of a job.
It's just that simple. Nobody is saved unless you have
(08:34):
a track record, unless you got equity because you won
two Super Bowls before or you did when you haven't
done any of that, you don't have any sweat equity.
You don't have any reason for people to go, well,
you know what, he did win a Super Bowl before,
so I'm gonna give him.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The benefit of the doubt. That's how I think what
happened in this case.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Yeah, I don't have a lot different viewpoint except for
say this, So Jeff Olbrick, who is now the interim
head coach, I will add to this for me, Rob,
I think he this was a move of preserving his job.
I think it was a hey, I'm an interim coach
right now, which we often know that usually doesn't mean
(09:15):
you're gonna get the job, especially in a bad situation.
But in order for me to try, as you mentioned, hey,
he got the interim job with a just enough time
to maybe turn this thing around. And part of turn
against around is dang it, can we score some points?
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Dag it?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
Can we start to get some offense? Because our offense
is looking exactly like it did with Zach Wilson. And
if you look at their numbers through the five games
with Aaron Rodgers, they're virtually identical to those with Zach
Wilson from last year. They're putting up the same number
of points ninety three that with Zach ninety three with
Aaron Rodgers, and almost the same number of yards per
game at two eighty four with Zach and in two
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eighty seven with Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
So the offense is the same.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
And if you look at the twenty two games that
they had Hacket, he was twenty ninth in points per game,
so clearly he has been the common I'm a denominator
through this. So I think Obrick is saying, in order
for me to say my job and have a rich
chance of being the permittent head coach, I got to
make some moves, whether Aaron Rodger likes it or not.
Because Aaron Rodgers talked about it. He said, obviously Hacket
and hired, you know, that's my guy. But I kind
(10:14):
of had an inkling this might come once they made
some moves, and he said, I know that Oubrick and
Hacket are you know, are cool. They have great work relationship.
But at the end of the day, I felt like
something was going to be done. So despite Aaron Rodgers
having a great relationship, I think Oberg said, hey, man,
I'm trying to win. I'm trying to maybe have a
pee as in permittent head coaching job, and I got
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to do what I got to do. Hackey, you're my guy.
I know you're his guy. You got to go as
far as calling. He's still on the staff, he has
an undisclosed title, whatever that means, but do it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
But he's still not calling plays. That's what he came
here for.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And my point is that even if you're a Hall
of Fame quarterback and your cashe and you want a
Super Bowl and the Super Bowl MVP, you're not going
to be able to dictate everything like everybody thinks, because
if he had ultimate power, he could have said to
the owner, this is what I said to you yesterday, like, oh,
you're gonna pout if if Hacket's not the app. No,
(11:10):
you're a professional. You have your own career, your own legacy.
You can't do that. If the last thing people see
you do is pull some sort of Shenanigans.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Where you're not trying hard or you just tank.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Or you play poorly because you're upset or there, that
that will follow you. People will remember that. And that's
why I didn't buy into it. And I'm not saying
that he doesn't have influence because the coach didn't.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The coach didn't call every player, you know what I mean?
You mean the owner, the owner didn't call every player.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I'm with you.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Listen, man, you should have ownership you Rob Parker, you
have your own businesses. You know, you obviously been a
part of this odd couple since start. Like when you
have equity, when you have rapport with people, when you
built up that uh, that trust, you absolutely should And
I think anybody who think he thinks differently is absolutely
being asinine. And that's perfectly fine. And I do think
that's partly why. To be honest, I think you would
(12:02):
even maybe agree. Hackett still has a job. Typically, if
you've been this bad at something, you would get the can.
But I think he's like, look, man, I know that's
your guy. I've worked with him before. Let's keep him around.
Obviously we have to demote him, but he's still around.
He's still a part of the team, still helping you.
Because also maybe he's better off being Aaron Rodgers eyes,
you know what I mean, kind of helping him and
(12:24):
practicing what he'ss versus actually call him the plays.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I think he was the quarterback coach in Green Bay,
like that, right, you remember, and that's what But that's
what got him the job in Denver is because people
had put Aaron Rodgers out with the trash saying he
was finished. And then what did he do? He won
two MVPs and Hackett was the quarterback coach in Green
Bay and people are like, well, do you know.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
What I mean?
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That's the cachet that he got that got him as
head coaching job. Now I don't think he'll ever get
another one. He was so bad. I mean, you can't
look at it.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
He lasted one year. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Line, you're there, you come to the Jets, you get
Aaron Rodgers back, and he looks bad. As Zach Wilson.
You got him looking bad. But I think that was
I'll do you a solid air and I'll do you
a favor and I'll keep him around as opposed to
most guys in the situation.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Rob you know, they're gonna get the can, the full
can audio.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
They got to pay him anyway. So I mean, whether
he was there or not, And I think.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
But I mean the respect of still being on the team,
you're still being a part of it still more so
less hack It more Aaron. I'm gonna keep your guy
around cause we all you know who I'm talking about.
You have plenty of mid teens, and there's some I
know you probably you know like this. He's helped me
with this. He's good to have around for that help
me with MLB bro. Like we all have people around
us who help you feel better when they're around, you
know what I mean? And I think that was a
(13:40):
I'll do you a solid air, I'll keep them, just
keep him around in the building, all.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Right, age seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. And really,
how surprised are you that Nathaniel Can't hack It? As
a nicknamed him his first year, Nathaniel Can't hack It
got demoted?
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Like does that.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Change your mind a little bit about the whole way
that the solid thing played out? Because I think the
scenario and narrative was that Aaron dug in and said, no,
you gotta have keep my guy although and get rid
of Solah because he was going.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
To demote him. That was the storyline yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Or or do you just look at this as business
as usual because normally when things aren't working out, these
moves are made.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And how much power really does Aaron?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
If Aaron had ultimate power, I don't think Hackett would
have been demoted. If he really made the case that
it's not Hacket's fault, is my fault or you know
what I mean, he could have made that case to
the owner that it's not I just haven't played well,
the plays are fine or whatever. But obviously the ownership
and the new coach said no, we're going to make
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a change, and he has to live with it.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
I just think you under a little more power and
Ubrick's wanting to change things up. I still think Aaron
wanted it his way, but I give credit to Uberc
saying no, man, I think this is what I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Think an interim coach.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I mean, I think this is ownership as well, an
interim coach because he he's not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
To be the coach next year, you know that.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
So that's why he's fighting for his job, like I'll
do whatever. Don't think he has.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
That much power and that he's got to get the
blessing from the owner. He can't come in and clean
house with everybody, because if that was the case, it
would have been more moves. What's the glaring problem with
the Jets is their offense and that had to change,
all right eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine. And yes, it is a
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Speaker 3 (16:43):
And brother Rob, I gotta tell you man, you're doing
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Speaker 5 (16:49):
I'm really looking at the find the detail of this
jacket you got on.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
I'll see what for those.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Of you who cannot see, he has on a Louis Baton,
and I believe it is real.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
This is real. What are you talking about?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Just making sure you know it ain't pooky and and
paton Louis Baton. Nice jacket here here I am just
with a regular otea on.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
But it's understated. You have to look close, you know
what I mean. To the detail. It's not gaudy. That's
what made this jacket to me worth buying.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So was this what did you hit a lick on
this one?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
It?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
This was just I'm gonna go ahead and pay full price.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
No, I was in Vegas. I paid full price, you
know what.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
And I also like it because I know where you
are and being where you are, you know, they like
to stunt out there in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
They like to you know what I mean, they like
to flex. So I see you out here.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
All right, let's go to the calls.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Eight seven seven ninety nine, O Fox, what about rich
in Texas you're on the odd couple of Fox Sportsuaitio.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Rich?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Hey guys, how are you doing tonight?
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Doing great?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
How are you rich?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
It's a big state in Texas. Where are you exactly rich?
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Just north of Austin, near Harker Heights.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Okay, all good, go ahead.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:00):
So I'm just you know, everybody now that Nathaniel Hackett
got demoted, everybody's willing to forgive to me, forgive Aaron Rodgers,
And I'm not ready to absolve him from from the
blame on this. Uh, you know, to me as an organization,
the Jets, they could have done everything that they just
did without firing Salah.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, but you have to make the case that you
don't know if inside that locker room with some players,
Sala's been there for three years, things just haven't gone well.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Even before Aaron.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Rodgers played, like, let's there's there's a lot of stuff.
The way he handles Zach Wilson, people blamed him. If
you remember, he's in, he's out, they're playing a third
string quarterback. Then they bring Zack Wilson back. There's a
lot of mistakes Salah made as well.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
But Aaron Rodgers also he's not taking any of the blame.
He could have actually said, hey, the offense isn't playing well,
let's give it a couple more games, and you know,
done that. But he's pushing the blame away from him obviously.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
And then if you think you.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Think he wanted, you think he really wanted his guy
that he wanted hired to be demoted, I don't. I
don't think you're being honest. I don't think because that's
that's a knock on him. When you recommend somebody Aaron
Rodgers is taking a hit. Nathaniel Hackett failed in Denver.
Aaron made a plea right to Jet's ownership Kelvin to
(19:20):
hire this guy on Aaron's.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Word correct, and he flopped.
Speaker 7 (19:25):
That's on Aaron, and they still demoted him. Why didn't
they just keep Salah and demoted and see how how
it played out?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Well, I think I was done with Salah.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Yeah, I think listen, I think I think as much
as Sala they appreciate the call rich. I mean, I'm
not gonna sit there agatting act like Salah was a
world beater, I think, But I do think there is
too riches point. I'm not absolving a lot of Aaron Rodgers,
and more so the ownership giving the absolute keys to him.
He should absolutely be a part of the decision making,
be a part of maybe players they're looking at.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
It makes sense because you have a lot riding on him.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
You felt like you were a Hall of Fame quarterback
away from making a super run. But all I know
is since then, it's just things have not worked out.
It has not looked good. There's been more chaos than
it should be considering you brought in a proven veteran
and I use more. It's just I know they have
to be like, man, it's just too much talk. Can
we just get back to just five games?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Though?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
I just think I think like you're over that. But
think about it.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
No, no, no, If they win Monday and they're tied, I'm
just giving you your scenario. I'm not making no pie
in the sky that they're going to win the Super Bowl.
Right if they if they get turn the offense around,
score a number of points, thirty five points, they win
the game against Buffalo, they make.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
They feel good because they had a new head coach.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
And they got rid of Solim. Whatever, the season automatically
turns around. Now if it's bad and they get shut
out and Aaron Rodgers throws three more picks or whatever.
Now you got an issue, But they have an opportunity
to turn the corner.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
There's no denying that. That's a fact, I think.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
But can you also concede that for you think you're
bringing in a veteran, a guy who's won a lot
of games, a guy who is MVP almost forty, kind
of a senior statesman in this league.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
You thought there'd be more stability.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
You gotta at least give me that Rob, more stability,
less drama, more about business.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
That's kind of what you think. You're signing up for.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
A Drews Breeze, like a Tom Brady like, a Peyton
Manning like. And it's been the polar opposite to a
franchise that always has chaos, and I think you got
to at least give that that man you're kind of like.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I was hoping this would not be the.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Case, and it seems to be more chaos with the
guy who was supposed.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
To be either I don't know if it's more chaos or
just Jets chaos. As a guy who's followed the team
his entire life. I don't know if it's any more
than anything I've seen. They've gotten it wrong a lot.
They had Brett Farv there, and Brett Farv after he
left the Jets went to the NFC Championship game with
the Vikings.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
So he had stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
He was eight and three with the Jets and played
while he was injured for.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
The Jets lost the last four or.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Five games, and they didn't make to playoffs after starting.
I've seen it. I've seen the whole gamut. So I
don't know if there's any lesson.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I should have known that.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Hey, maybe not go back to that same well Green
Bay and be stop getting again.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
James and Saint Louis a squeeze of menu on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Wadio. What's up, James, Hey guys,
Rob love you, Calvin, You're great as well.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Thanks you man.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
I'm Saint Louis, the baseball capital of the United States,
remember that.
Speaker 8 (22:28):
And you know what's funny is that my grandparents live
in Cooperstown, New York. So my aunt still lives there.
If you ever need a place to say, Rob, I know, Hey.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
That's awesome. Cooperstown. Awesome.
Speaker 8 (22:38):
Yeah, So Uh, but no, My only thing was so
I mean, I think they wanted to keep Aaron Rodgers
still happy that he does that, but you always have
to realize Nathaniel Eckett's offense is so old, he doesn't
really do motions, and the defense is really caught up
to all that, and I think and so I think
they had to do something in order to get you know,
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Aaron to run something different because he's just he's in
his comfort zone with now Nathaniel Hackett. Obviously the only
good game that he really had was against the Patriots,
and that's the Patriots. So I just feel like they
really had to do something here. This guy's at least
probably gonna hope and push Aaron a little more to
do some motions, to do a little bit outside of
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the playbook other than the bland things that they're doing,
because I mean that was when that was when he
was with Green Bay, Nathaniel Hackett, with Mike McCarthy, and
then when they went to the other guy, he's the
one who really you know, got Rogers to go. So
I think they just needed as spark to get something going.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Thanks you guys, La.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
Matt Lafloor, Yeah, got you appreciate it, man, thank you.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
We appreciate all that. Uh, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Hey, sheckel City in a bit.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
But right now we're being joined by well neck Keletty
coming up after that.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Right now, what's trending?
Speaker 1 (23:54):
What Steve de Sega? What's up?
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Steve?
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Hello?
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Cleveland is just Homer. They're trying to stay alive in
the series. At Detroit tonight, Jose Ramirez has belted it
out to left in the top of the fifth, So
it's Guardians two to one in the lead at Detroit.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
I got a staff for you, Steve.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Yes, So is it the Guardians haven't won a deciding
one or like elimination game?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You ready in thirty years? Is that right? Really? That's what?
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
My friend from Cleveland, she texted me and she said,
I don't have any hope for tonight.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I said, why would you say that? You know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (24:29):
You just won a game and come back forget they
haven't won an elimination game?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Can you in thirty years? She said?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Beause wasn't that in the Major League when the Major
League movie?
Speaker 9 (24:39):
They have had good teams in the past.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
I know, I was shocked at she but she lives
in Cleveland, so I'm assuming you know what I mean,
she's listening to the news and all the stuff going on.
Speaker 9 (24:49):
But all right, so it's Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I have two to one.
Speaker 9 (24:51):
This is Game four in the best of five division
series at Detroit Tannerbybee. The starter still in there for
the Guardians and the late game if we can call
that and a half an hour, we'll have Kansas City
hosting the top seeded Yankees. With the Yankees already up
two games to one, the Minnesota Twins are exploring the
sale of the team.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Shocking.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
It is the pole ad Famili's had him for forty years.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (25:13):
Tomorrow at Game five, Padres at Dodgers on Fox TV
to and their best of five NL divisions.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I was impressive by the Dodgers. I thought they were dead.
I thought you would get crushed yesterday.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Didn't see that one coming.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
No, I did not eight. No, I didn't.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
Zip last night. It was unbelievably impressive. The fact that
you could go with the bullpen game, because as we've
talked about, they've run out of starting pitchers already. They
have seven seven starting pitchers on the injured list. At
the same time, Man and here. They have what was it,
eight pitchers last night, and they all hit in a row,
one one success after another on the mound. It was
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a little unlikely, Let's say that, to say the least.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
In the NFL.
Speaker 9 (25:53):
At San Francisco at Seattle eight to fifteen pm Eastern kickoff,
forty nine Ers will not have cornerback Various Ward. He
is out for tonight due to a knee injury. Also
inactive kicker Jake Moody. For the Seahawks, They are without
cornerback Greek Wooland due to an ankle injury, but Seattle
safety Julian Love is active for tonight after a hamstring injury,
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and the Jets demoted offensive coordinator Nathaniel Hackett.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Back to you, Thank you all.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Right, Steve de Segur, thank you so much. We're joining
now company live from this High Wreck dot Com Studios
by Nick Colletti, former Los Angeles Dodger GM and overall
coolest guy all of sports.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Brother, Ned, what's up? Ned?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Hey, guys? How you doing doing good?
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Ned?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
My god, I'm loving this baseball postseason.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
It's been great. It's been exciting. Every every night there's
a great game and a lot of competitive games. Last
night was pretty special for.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
La Well, let's stay there, yeah, go ahead, go ahead
for Keilvin.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Wasn't gonna say net, what's up man? I miss hanging
out with you in the studio.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Let's let's talk about that that Dodgers win where a
lot of people had it they were done.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
This is in the water.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Then they're able to throw a bullpen and not only
it wasn't as if that the bullpen survived in one.
I mean the offense got going, maybe it got going
because of the bull pay and they end up winning nothing.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
What did you make of that? In Dave Roberts call
where you have no choice?
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Well, I think that they hit it perfectly when you
think about all the pitching that they use and how
they threw a shut up and they're in San Diego.
San Diego is all ready to go, and they're all
lepped up, and they got a chance to win it
before and then they picked the right believers at the
right time, at the right part of the lineup and
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continue to continue to put up zeros. Not easy to do.
Not easy to do on a Wednesday night, and perhaps
on a Friday night. We'll see what tomorrow night brings,
but it's it was interesting to see, you know, the
bullpen games not something I'm necessarily big on, but I
think that when you're in the spot that they're in,
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that's what you've got to do and to put people
in the place to be successful, which is what Dave
Roberts said last night. You know a lot of a
lot of kudos to him for doing it the right way.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
That as a baseball guy, when your team scores eight runs,
are you a little afraid don't don't use all my
runs tonight?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
You know?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Can you save a couple for Game five? Or you
one of those guys?
Speaker 6 (28:32):
No, I don't think it first. There's no carry over,
you know. I think, if anything, it gives people more confidence,
you know. And I think the team, I think they
were teetering a little bit going into last night, but
we can't discount their experience. We can't discount how many
times they've been in these situations. And I think the
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competition for them is good. I think if they get
through tomorrow night, I don't know that there's a kally
a team that can beat can beat them.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Can beat the Dodgers.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
Really, I don't think.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I think that I don't think the Dodgers have enough
pitching to win the World Series, Ned, I gotta admit,
and you know.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
We'll see, we'll see, because you know they have quality pitchers.
Have they pitched the quality they have?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
Not?
Speaker 6 (29:19):
But are they capable of doing that? Yeah, they are
capable of doing that. So I don't know that New
York beats them in the in the LCS do get
a long way to go, obviously, No, no, no, definitely.
I like how they fight through it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Let me, well, let's speaking of New York. Let's go
to the Yankees. You have a chance to uh punch their.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Ticket and go to the Alcs and uh, the guy
that's been uh impressive for years now hitting home runs
in the postseason, John Carlos Stanton, hit his twelfth career
postseason home run.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Net in just one hundred and eight at bats.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Okay, that gives them a ratio of nine point four
home run home run per at bat. The only person
better than him in the history of baseball is Babe
Ruth with eight point six, which is incredible.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
What makes John Carlos.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Then, you know, as a home run hitter, especially in
the postseason, that's pretty impressive. Twelve home runs and one
hundred and eight postseason at bats.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Well, obviously he's got talent, and he's got the size,
and he's got the experience to be able to do
it in New York under the pressure of being a Yankee,
and that spotlight I think makes it all the more special.
I think anybody who can play in October and really
thrive in October, the special will begin with. And then
you think about a city like New York and the
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expectations that follow the Yankees everywhere, you know, so that
it's ultra impressive. It's you know, you have to figure
out a way to picture on. It's no different than
trying to pitch gronto Tani events. You know, you've got
to figure out a way to get them to chase,
to get them to get ahead in the colum and
make them theyke him swing it something that you'd rather
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have them swinging at. But the percentage that you read
out there, you know that's it's only on one ahead
of them, and that's maybe the greatest player ever played, Matt.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
You know, when you're talking about going in October, one
team that's playing hot, because they were playing a hot
a month or so month and a.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Half before October.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
The Tigers, what do you make of this unexpected run
that they're on right now when they don't have big
time superstars, They don't have a lot of names that
you know about, and yet they're able to have this
much success right now? Is it they're too young and
dumb nets to know they're not supposed to be this good?
Speaker 6 (31:41):
I think to some extent, I mean, I think it's
great for the game. Uh, both them and Kansas City.
I don't know who saw this coming in them coming
on to to this time of the year, that both
those franchises would be where they're at. CAC lost one
hundred and six games last year, you know, but when
you have a chance, and you have really they've been
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playing with the houses money almost all season long, and
if Detroit got hot when it did, that's a special
thing for that organization, that city. But they do play
with the house's money at this point.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
You know.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
The Yankees, obviously, if they don't get to the World
Series and win it, it's not a good year. You know.
In Cleveland, you know, it's been really good for a
long time back quite the Yankees. As far as what
the expectation is but a lot of expectation there too.
I don't think Detroit in Casey have any expectation. I
know the team does, but as far as the outside,
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as far as the noise they can can distract people,
they don't have it. So they play free, they play easy.
They're a little bit like Tampa Bay from two years ago.
What is their pressure? The payroll is on the list
of the game. They don't have the pressure that.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
No doubt that last thing we got a bottom.
Speaker 6 (33:00):
Specier comes with those people.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
And Tampa Bay never won a World Series. But I'll
ask you this last thing. If the Dodgers do lose
Game five and it's a it's a rap and they're
out after the first, you know, the NLDS is the
season of total failure for Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (33:21):
I don't ever see I don't ever see it that way.
I think unless you've unless you have put together teams
and you have played at the highest level and you've
always won, I don't think winning is that easy.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Winning.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I don't think it's that easy.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
But you spent They spend a billion dollars on players.
They despite the injuries that people will use as an excuse,
they had the best record in baseball.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I mean, I'm going through the gamut.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Of all the stuff that they have Otani and fifty
to fifty in bets and Freddie Freeman and I can
go on and on. Nobody expected the Dodgers to be
out in their first playoff series, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Well, I know, I get the point, and I and
I you know, I agree to a certain point. But
the other team's getting paid too, you know. And when
you think about it, when you think about San Diego
and La, think about the Dodgers and the Padres, there
is far more pressure on the Dodgers than there is
San Diego. Don't don't get me wrong. There is pressure
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on San Diego, but not the same as the Dodgers.
True if I mean, but you ask the same question
if San Diego.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
No, No, you know, would it.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Be a compete.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
The Dodgers and Yankees are in their own league. You
know that the Yankees, if they don't get there, they
will be hell to pay. Aaron Boone if they don't
make the World Series will probably I don't think we'll
be back as manager if they don't make it.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
No, I can't disagree, and so but that's again there's
there's teams that are expected to but yet the expectation
is one thing, but the reality of winning is to
me a whole nother thing. You know, we've had great
franchises in LA you know, the Lakers, maybe four different dynasties,
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but they haven't always won. And they've had good teams
many times and high expectations. So I think it's I
think it comes with the territory. You're expected to do
certain things when you to spend what they've spent. But again,
winning it is different than thinking about it, talking about it,
or spending to do it. Winning is a different dynamic
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and not everything. It's hard to win. The other team's
getting paid too.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
No doubt.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Here's Nach Coletti. Thank you for joining us, brother. We
appreciate it much.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Thanks for the knowledge.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
Guys, have a good one, have fun all right.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Letty always a cool guy, one of the best to
talk to. You know so much about the game. Hey, Rob,
we're getting Shekel City. Uh, how are we okay?
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I'm nervous. You know, it's been it's been rough. Sorry,
can we get to it? Can we get to it?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Cho City on the way as well.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
We'll do that blue. I might need a blue pillf
of Shekel City.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
I'm just saying you need.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Yeah, you're gonna have to emphasize something. Brother, Let's see
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Speaker 5 (37:12):
Your boys get done talking and running our mouths. Rob,
you know what time it is, right, it's time for
Shekel City.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Two.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Shekel City, Well, the whole base for markers, dally Dix
against the spread.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
I feel like Nathaniel can't Hackett. It's been a rough
patch for me. But every so often, you know, like
you gotta get out of it. You gotta keep fighting.
I'm gonna fight my way through it. So maybe this
week the day you fought out of it.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, this is it, This is it.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I got Cleveland minus one and a half runs.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
That's my best bet.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
I believe they will force a game five in Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
I do it's two to two in the sixth inning.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Of course, these picks will posted by Elijah on social media. Also,
I have the Yankees minus one and a half in
Kansas City. I think they get it wrapped up with
their ace Garrett Cole on the mound tonight. That's where
the Yankees want, right, You chance to close it out, Kelvin,
and you have your ace on the mound.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
That's literally how you design it. You know what I
mean exactly right? You don't want to go to we'll see.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
A game five. Anything could happen in the game five.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I don't like to pick against the Tigers, though, I'll
tell you that.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I didn't say they weren't going with the series. I
just said that thought Cleveland would force the game five.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
And then tonight, uh, Thursday night football. I got Seattle
plus three and a half.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
They're at home. The forty nine ers have lost two
in a row. Will they lose.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Three in a row?
Speaker 2 (38:42):
They got injuries that kind of banged up Seattle's three
and two. They're underdogs at home. But I like Seattle
plus three and a half. So there we go, Seattle
plus three and a half, Yankees minus one and a
half runs, and the Guardians minus one and a half runs.
And remember, Kelvin, I'm not telling you who to bet on,
which you say, I'm telling you who I bet on.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Yeah, all right, well, you know, speaking of we can
just stay there for a couple more minutes here about
the Thursday night football game that'll be happening here in
the next you know, twenty minutes or so. Two teams
that are in the same division, obviously competing to win
the division. It looks like the Rams isn't gonna be
the season they thought, as everybody keeps getting banged up.
Seahawks maybe a surprise team last year. Now folks gonna
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actually had them expect us some expectations this year. They
both of these, they've lost a couple. Now they're sitting
at three and two. After they had that the three
and oh start, they've now lost a couple in a
disappointing one, right, losing to the Giants last game.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
That's not exactly what you had for them.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
And then the forty nine Ers as well, they lose
by one at home against the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
And of conversations we've had, forty.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Nine Ers keep being in these games, keep we think
they're up nine, up ten, and they're gonna win it.
And Kyle Shanahan just keeps finding ways to lose these games.
So some disappointing losses and considering Brock parties up pretty
well because you know, without all his Avengers.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Rob, Yeah, it's still two games that they've given away
like that they had and they just haven't been able
to close him out. That's on the coach because it
just he stops running the football, keeps throwing the ball
for whatever reason, and gives the other teams a chance.
So this is a big game. Can they lose three
in a row. If they lose three in a row,
I think you got to start looking at the forty
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nine ers and go are they that good?
Speaker 5 (40:25):
You know who worries me, And I'll say this quickly,
Dan Campbell, if he starts to become the new Coyle Shanahan,
if he starts losing these big game we have a
little word. You know that, Hey, wife's advice. Martin Wisse
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