June 27, 2025 • 39 mins
Kelvin Washington and Rob G. (sitting in for Rob Parker) open the show reacting to recent comments from Mavs head coach Jason Kidd on the plan for Cooper Flagg. Jazz reporter Andy Larsen from The Athletic joins the show to discuss Utah selecting Ace Bailey in the top five of the NBA draft despite him not wanting to go there.
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Ian came in and already you know, Ian was feeling
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or might not do. He said he I might come
in there, I might do this. I don't know, I
might not You know it's Friday. We'll see how I feel.
It is the couple kelvin Washington. That's right, Rob G
in the building in for Rob Parker, who, of course
Rob is on vacation joining baseball ball parks all around
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this country. He'll be back soon enough, so hopefully he's
enjoyed himself. It's been a good week, Rob G. We've
had a handful of different people in so and a
lot of course to talk to as well.
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I don't know half and half producers today getting you
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Who guilted you and to buy pizza for everybody.
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I wasn't I wasn't gonna bring that up.
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Guilted.
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You know it's funny. Hold on, let me let me
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Let me I walk in today and there's a couple
of boxes already there. Then I felt some type of way, Oh,
he's just gonna get pizzas without me or you order.
I know, but for a second there I thought you did.
So we'll be ordering pizzas today, Alex. He's gonna cost you.
You're gonna have to show me a workout regiment. So
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Speaker 7 (02:34):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Before we get to that, all right, We got, of
course Steve the Sega gonna keep you updated on what's
happening around the sports world as well, so a lot
to get to. We got Andy Larson gonna join us
cover the Utah Jazz in the NBA at Large for
the Salt Lake Tribune. I don't know has As Bailey
showed up yet here y'all drafting me, but I we'll
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find out about that.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Some great conversation to happening in the WNBA, some stuff
to talk about there. And also Akil Augustine covered the
Raptors on NBA TV Canada for twenty plus years.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Some we'll say, some.
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Rearranging, house cleft North, some house cleaning happening up north.
So a lot to get to, so buckle up for
the next few hours. We're gonna have a great one.
So Happy Friday to you and thank you for rocking
with your boys.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Rob G. We've been talking about Cooper Flagg over the last.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
School several weeks obviously, but this week especially, And you
know I mentioned this yesterday. Before we get in all
the dissecting and breaking down who did what, who shouldn't
have did this, this will be kind of the last
time I say it, and then after that we'll just
be hard on them for the rest of all these guys' careers.
Again after last night, one more time, congratulations to all
the young men who got drafted.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Amazing moment for them.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Again, I say they they've worked their entire lives to
get there, and they're in a position that such a
low percentage of humans can be really not even know.
We always like to tie that to any sport, only one.
In any sport, there's a lot of people who say, man,
I want to be a lawyer. I want to be that,
and never go through with it. So for them to
actually be able to fulfill their dreams, we get congratulations
to them.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Oh yeah, big fact, I mean just a couple of
days ago, Martin wi Ston on this share, we were
talking during one of the commercial breaks about, you know,
because you played high level high school ball, a lot
of guys you played with you that played in college
played in the NBA. So we're just talking, what is
the percentage of people who play in high school ended
up playing at a high level Division one You're like
maybe fifteen percent? Yeah, ten percent?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
About that?
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Yeah, how much of those guys play in the NBA?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
What point?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
So just think about it's crazy, right, and to be
there and to get drafted and then NBA draft, by
the way, it's not the MLB draft, which is like Steve,
how many rounds are MLB draft seventy eight? Stuff like
seventy eight rounds and you're getting you know, he is
the guy. They just drafted this kid in the forty
ninth round of the MLB, like forty nine. But the
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NBA is only two, you know, and and we already
know that only a handful of these guys are really
going to make an impact and really be in the league.
So it's just an amazing accomplishment. So I don't ever
want to belittle that are diminished that. So congrats them.
With that being said, though, Cooper flag now is the
guy for the Mavericks, which I don't know if Nico
Harrison is the luckiest man on earth, the most well
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informed man on earth, meaning like, hey, man, do what
you need to, don't worry about it. We got you,
we'll take care of But you get the number one pick.
You know how we do. You saw what happened with Zion.
You saw what happened when Lebron left, they got Kyrie.
You saw what happen when and when Ad left, and
they got Zion. Just you know, let me go on
down the line. So I don't know if he's well
informed or the luckiest man, but here we are the
Calves have the number one pick. And the thing that
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he said Nico Harrison, which was interesting is the two timelines.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
This is almost like ro movie was that Looper? Do
you ever see Looper?
Speaker 8 (05:44):
Nah?
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I never seen Looper?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I And you saw Looper, right, Alex, No, you ain't
see yet. You saw Looper? Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Bruce Willis And what's the other guy, the young kid
who played him?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Love it? Love it?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Hewitt, Joseph Gordon, love it?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Yeah? At him? So it's like in the future but
in the past, it's been in the real time.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Then they both come together and then you see the
past with him and his confusing and that's what Nico
Harrison is operating now. He is playing Looper where he
says we're gonna be good. Now, we're gonna win, now,
we're gonna win in the future. And I said this yesterday.
I don't I buy what he's trying to sell me
on paper, because if I just listed the guys, you'd
be like, oh, that's a nice roster. But just you
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just woke up from a COVID and I said, hey, man,
here's a video of this kid who's been playing his
name Cooper Flag. You see the video, but oh, he
looks nice. And I said, ad, first ballot Hall of Famer.
You know what he does on both ends of the floor.
You go, oh, nice, Kyrie Irving, first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
You know what he does? You said, ooh.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Then I go on to some young guys Lively in
Gafford and now Klay Thompson and some other people. They
have coming a PJ. Washington, really nice player. You like
what you see on paper? My thing is number one.
Kyrie Irving isn't playing right now. Kyrie Irvy might not
play until late February, could be later on in the spring.
And he's older coming off a serious injury, and you're
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banking on him being to play with another guy who
was older, who was often injured in ad So to me,
the win now is kind of like if you say so,
everybody has to be injury free, and that team is
injury prone, including Klay Thompson. And also you're gonna be
banking on a rookie who I think is gonna be good,
but it will also be finding his sea legs in
the NBA.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
So I don't buy.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Necessarily the win now as much as obviously Nico Harrison does.
But he has to sell something to the fan base.
He has to get them energized, and again that's his
job to be trying to win now. But I'm just
we would be worried about the way they're constructed, which
is why it was so hard on him trading Luca,
is that you only got older with Anthony Davis. You
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paired Anthony Davis with the Kyrie who's got injured, and
guess what happened last year Anthony Davis get injured. The
first game, he's back. A little bit later on in
the season, Kyrie Irving gets injured. So to me, and
you know, you said here, how many times I was
saying that. How many times I say, you got two
guys who are often injured. Boom, both of them get
injured in the same year. So that had been my concern.
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But there's other points that you can point to about
Cooper flag that. Even Jason Kidd said that. We'll get
to it in a minute. But your thoughts on the
two timelines, the looper of it all is I'm calling it.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
It's just not realistic. And the most recent example we've
seen of this is the Golden State Warriors. If people saying, well,
they want a championship in twenty twenty two, what he
maden't work? If you watch that team, they fell ass
backwards into it. They tried so hard to say James Wiseman,
Jonathan kaminga, Moses Moody, We're gonna build those guys, while
also being in contention with Steph clay Andre when that
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run took off. None of those three guys were important,
No young guys. It was the old Wiley Vets. Jordan
Poole was a revelation. Nobody was explaining anything from him
when they dropped him, laying the first round.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Heavy on the Wolves, And yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
And Andrew Wiggins finally realized his full potential. He only
had it for one season, but he realized it, and
you could argue he was their second best player during
that playoff run. And the problem that you run into
with those two situations is you have the Wiley Vetts
and this HiT's gonna be Anthony Davis, who has a ring,
so he knows that he wants one more than probably
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these guys want their second, the first one. Klay Thompson,
who has held bent on proving that Golden State made
a mistake by low balling him in that contract offer.
Kyrie Irving reportedly is gonna try to rush back as
soon as possible. Whether that's you know, smart on his
term short and long term, I don't know, but he
wants to come back and win right away. How on
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earth are you gonna be able to satisfy all three
of these guys and still do what Jason Kidd just
said earlier today did in the press conference. Let Cooper
flag make mistakes, Let Cooper Flagg develop on the fly,
where he mentioned and will play this down here in
a second. Yeah, turn the ball over. I don't care
I need to do that. We're gonna put the ball
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in your hands and let you pass to the wrong guy,
make the wrong read, throw the wrong pack like. You
can't have both because inevitably, when you get to April,
May and June in the postseason, because I think they're
gonna be the playof Cooper, Flag's not gonna be allowed
to make those kind of mistakes anymore. You can't say, Ay, Coop,
you're gonna be our new Yohannis, you're a new point guard.
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Walk Kyrie's down. Do what you gotta do. Well, you
can't do in the Western Conference because if you trick
things around, you're no longer a top six seed. Now
you're in nine, ten, eleven, and then what, by.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
The way, I hate I don't mind the play in.
I don't like the seventh seed being in the play in,
meaning I get the eight. You're the last of something.
If you're the last of something, so then you were
close to not even making it. Okay, great, let's have
the eight to nine and it makes it fun, right,
who was exciting to play it?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
If I were, I don't like the seventh seed, especially
in the Western Conference, because the seventh seed you might
be ten games above five hundred and you're like, man,
I cannot make the post.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
We've seen that happen before.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
I believe the Warriors happened to them once, or they've
gotten to play in and lost to the Lakers. I
believe it was like, I've never been a fan of
that the playing worked.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
What was it during the bubble year when they said,
if you're within six games of the eight seed, we
only got ten games off season? Yep, sure, but now
you had to allow to see you to think of
the Eastern Conference where eleven and twelve, we're like thirteen games.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Back and we got a shot, and once we get
into tournament, right, you never know. He's like, no, I know,
you guys suck and you shouldn't even have an option
and a chance to be in this at that. So
all right, I want to let's play this sound real quick.
You mentioned Jason Kidd, one of the great point guards
of all time. Looking at Cooper Flag as maybe a
taller point guard, let's se what you have to say
about that.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I want to put him in at the point guard.
I want to make him uncomfortable and see how he
reacts being able to run the show, being able to
play the two, play the three. He's he's comfortable playing that,
but we want to push and I think he's going
to respond in a positive way. It's all right to fail,
(11:49):
It's all right to turn the ball over. We've talked
about that, you know, just understanding the guys that I've
been around that are being young from Giannis giving him
the ball and he failed, but he wanted to come
back and have the ball. So I'm excited about giving
him the ball against the Lakers and see what happens.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
What will happen, Rob, I'll tell you what's gonna happen.
He's gonna have a real problem on his hands because
if you look at that roster in Dallas, they got
seven legitimate front court options that would play on a
decent team, right Cooper Flag, Anthony Davis, Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively,
PJ Washington, Naji Marshall, and what's the other from Miami,
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Kayla Martin. Yeah, all every one of those guys, you
can argue should get a minimum fifteen to twenty minutes
on an average NBA team. I think you're gonna have
a real difficult situation in Dallas where you're gonna allow
Cooper Flag to develop the way you want him to
develop while keeping that two timeline track. When you have
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I could argue right now at least three or four
guys who deserve minutes at the front court positions ahead
of him. So unless they decide, Cooper Flag, you are
our small forward, moving forward, point blank period, Anthony David,
you don't like plank center, you are five. Cooper Flag
is our four. That's what we're gonna do. That's how
we're gonna maximize this team right now. That's how we're
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gonna maximize our Cooper Flag timeline. And unless they do that,
I don't know if we're even gonna see Cooper Flag
reach his full potential, much less the team.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
So I actually disagree with you, Rob g our first disagreement,
because I think what he's trying to create is not
that he's a point guard in the sense of Magic
Johnson Isaiah Thomas, a traditional point guard. I think what
he is looking at and looking at success over the
last ten to fifteen years. If you look at the
Warriors when they were winning, everybody always said Steph Curry
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the greatest point because Steph Curry's not a point guard.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Stop it. Steph Curry is a combo guard.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Right, Steph Curry for the first run the first seven
eight years, didn't even bring the ball up.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
You know who brought the ball up?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Onguadala, Leonardo Barbosaving, Sean Livingston, Draymond Green. Those are a
bunch of other guys brought the ball up for him.
And so where I think there where he's going with
this is I think he's saying, I don't need you
to be me Steve Nash, Chris Paul, some of the greats.
What I do need is in this current NBA guys
are out. Pascal Sia can get the ball, he can go,
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he can be on the break. And I think he's
looking at the successful teams. If you look at the
thunder SGA doesn't have to stop the whole entire game
to go get the ball. And I'm gonna tell you
a team it doesn't work for the Lakers. What happens,
Lebron has to stop, come get the ball. Pre Luca,
it always had to be him, right Lebron, Ron, You
still run like a freight trade.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Just go go. But he has a hold on wait.
Let you know, he has to do his little handwipe
on his jersey. Let me get the ball, let me
take it up slowly.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I think Jason Kidd wants this to be like the
bulls of the nineties, Ron Harper, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen,
Tony Koukoch all these guys can get the ball and
bring it up and go, the Warriors of their all.
These guys can get the ball and go, the thunder
Sga Wallace, it can be Caruso, j dub anybody even check.
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Get the ball and go. And I think that's what
he's trying to create, so that they can get some
better pacing.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
They can get they don't have to always have a set.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
And I think also knowing Kyrie, your best ball handler
is not going to be back for some time, I
need as many people making good decisions and being able
to control a break and get stuff going. So that's
what I think he's trying to create, is he's looking
at the current NBA, whether it be the Houston Rockets
as well, this current NBA. The Pacers think about it,
it's like six guys who can bring the ball up.
And I think he's said the Pistons even had that.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
You know, just go.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
It doesn't have to be traditional early mid two thousands,
you know, the early nineties were like one or two guys.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
You literally get a rebound from the four or the
five traditional where's my point guard? Here you go. You
have to Now I run down. He's saying, bring it down,
go go, go, pacing, keeping the defense on their heels.
So I think that's what the what Jason Kidd is
trying to create. And part of that will be Cooper
Flagg is gonna be athletic. He's gonna get you seven
six to eight rebounds. I don't want you to have
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to think all the time, find somebody, just go. And
I think he's trying to create that mindset for him. Dude,
you don't have to wait. And it's not my time,
it's not my possession. No, go create, get some If
it's there, it's there, and that's how you get those
Pascal Siakam easy buckets. Sometimes I ain't gotta draw a
play for you, I gotta it just happened in transition.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
You made a play, You made the right decision.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
I would agree with you if their roster wasn't built
with four centers and five power forwards, because who who
on their team? And that you bring me Pascal Siakam
and the Pacers. Almost everybody on their team save for
Miles Turner and their backup center Thomas Bryant, former Laker,
is capable of doing something like that. If you look
at Dallas and assuming Kyrie doesn't come back for a while,
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it's well, I don't even specially then when he has
a contract right now. It's Max Christy, it's Klay Thompson,
it's Anthony Davis, it's Daniel Gaffort. Like, none of those
guys are known as creators. So what I think that
they would be best served, assuming they're serious about trying
to win now and they really want to get this
done and and really go for this two timeline thing,
is consolidate your roster. You don't need to have three centers,
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you don't need to have seven guys competing for two spots.
So unless I like they're playing this three D chess
game that they kind of fell ass backwards into with
the whole drafting situation, and I just think they're gonna
find themselves and they have enough time with they be good.
But it's just such a murky situation for them. I
don't think it's working out.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I get what you're saying, and that's a good thing
to me though, of having all those bodies, because what
are the next Lakers need size?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
You know?
Speaker 6 (17:42):
I bet you they trade with them again though, but
at that.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Point it will be the Dallas Lakers.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
But I'm using as an example of some teams still
need some size, and hey, if I got something that's
in demand, I can supply it.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
You know that. I'm up right now, all right on
the way.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Also, Cooper Flag mentioned something Rob g we were saying
about the luxury he has that other top picks don't
off to have.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
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future situation? And do you like j kids thought process
of letting Cooper Flag learn to play the point and
just go and make mistakes in real time eight seven
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Speaker 5 (18:22):
Will take your calls on that as well.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
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Speaker 5 (18:48):
When's he coming back? Robb G.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
He's back on Monday. And if you were in what
was it the New Jersey area, he was speaking at
your high school commencement today.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Wow, did he over under? I'm nothing, gon do it?
Do it? Oh?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
When I was at this school, when I'm the Hall
of Famer, if my name's over there, my name's.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Over there, and look what I said, Look what I did.
And then you know when I was used to sit
right there and it's crazy. Oh God, you're gonna tell
us something about the journey? Oh God, And it's crazy.
I've happened to bro this print out picture of me
in nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
By the way, mlbbro dot com.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
If you want more information, that's the hat I'm wearing
right now with this divincement. If you talk though, and
some of you in about five years, I'll see you.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
What's the line, Alex with the I D if it's
a sideway, ID, it's not for me.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Oh my gosh, we missed your Rob all right, I
was gonna get to We're not.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
We don't have we don't have time to get to now.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
But Cooper Flag was saying Rob g that he feels
blessed to not have to be the centerpiece. And it's
interesting because so many draft picks. I don't think it's
any more prevalent than two positions, whether you're the star
pick of Cooper Flag, a zion in the NBA, or
a star quarterback. Because if you're bryce young and it's
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like everybody know that, the whole city is excited. You know,
if you're Caleb Williams, the whole city is excited. Everybody
you're getting ready to come be this thing. And it's
so hard, you know, it's so hard to change a franchise.
It's so hard to be that.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Mind.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You in Cooper's case, you're eighteen, or maybe some other
guys are nineteen or you're twenty, and an entire city
is like, hey, come change everything that this organization is
general manager of this president of basketball. Everybody's been not
being able to do, not these veterans, but all of
a sudden, you have to come do this, And I
just think it's it's such a difficult position. So of
him understanding that he's privileged, I think, I think I
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like the position he's in where he gets to go
in learn they have you mentioned the roster. They have
a good team. They should be good. Maybe not great,
maybe not a top five, seeds sixty, but a good team,
good coach.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
And he gets to walk into that. Right, you don't
have to go save the Wizards.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I'll tell you what his outlook on this thing. It's
very mature to be honest with you. But in many
ways you could argue it's like the anti Ace Bailey,
where he's like, Hey, I want to come in and
be part of a team. I want to win. I
want to do whatever it takes for this franchise, for
this group. Based on what we're hearing in the reporting
around as Bailey is, I want all the buckets, I
want all the shots. I want the least amount of competition.
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I want to make sure I get mine so I
can get this second contract and get paid it's incredible
that you see the well basically become the two hallmark
marquee names of this NBA draft, and they seem to
have completely opposite viewpoints towards the league and their career.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Well, I'll tell you what, man, We're gonna have an
extended conversation about what's happening with Ace Bailey a little
bit later in hour three.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
So looking forward to that.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
All right, let's go go to Steve right now, because
Andy Larson on the other side of what's trendy?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Hey, Steve, Hello there.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
Angels manager Ron Washington will remain on medical leave for
the rest of the season. Washington is seventy three in
his second year there. The Angels have one of the
late gamesting Washington. The Mets are at Pittsburgh in the
bottom of the second and scoreless. The New York Mets
are first in the nl East half game over the Phillies.
By the way, Philadelphia is at Atlanta tonight. News from
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the Met's not good today. Predictably, the pitcher Griffin Canning
had surgery for a torn achilles rain delay at the
start for Minnesota at Detroit. Rays are out to a
two to nothing lead at Baltimore Yankee scoreless in the
second against the A's Yanks. First in the AL East
half game over Tampa Bay. Toronto is three back. Blue
Jays are leading one nothing at Boston in the bottom
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of the first. Boston Red Sox have lost five games
in a row. Five WNBA contests tonight, including Minnesota at
twelve and two about to start at Atlanta, and Indiana
playing at Dallas. Caitlin Clark out again with a groin injury.
US Men's soccer plays its Gold Cup quarterfinal on Sunday
against Costa Rica. That'll be on Fox TV from Minnesota.
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The FIFA Club World Cup quarterfinals start on Saturday. The
Florida Panthers playoff MVP Sam Bennett signed an eight year extension.
The NHL and its players union agreed to an extension
of the CBA through twenty thirty. The NHL regular season
will increase to eighty four games per team in a year.
The Utah Jazz say first round or Ace Bailey, We'll
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report on Saturday, with a news conference on Sunday. Practice
on Monday. The team's rookies will then fly to Summer
League from Salt Lake City.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Back to you, all right, Steve, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I couple covin Washington, Rob g and for Rob on
his funky Flashback Friday. And we're joined now by Andy Larson,
who covers the Utah Jazz in the NBA at Large
for the Salt Lake Tribune.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Andy B.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Larson on X give him a follow Andy, what's up man?
Happy Friday? How you doing hey man?
Speaker 7 (23:43):
I'm doing good.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Man?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
We've just had a little quick conversation about Ace Bailey.
We'll have an extended one a little bit later on,
but we'll start there. Just what do you make of
the last few weeks? Face Bailey? Obviously very talented not
I mean, you could argue just about his talent as
Cooper Flag. Some people think more talented than Cooper Flag.
But here we are where the story is and just
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how good he is and how good he can be.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
It's well, he didn't take any visits.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Well now, he might not even be showing up to Utah,
and he didn't want to get drafted by Utah, but
yet they still drafted him. What's been up with this
journey that landed him there with the fifth Pig?
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, Look, I think it's about the people you put
around you a little bit, and it's hard to do
that when you're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and now Ace is
still only eighteen. But like, you know, he's worked with
Omar Cooper is his manager, and kind of has been
the guy representing himself, representing Ace to NBA teams throughout
this process, and I, you know, I think as someone
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who's kind of seen himself as a future star for
a long time, Omar kind of bought into that and
then said, hey, we should dictate where you go, and
ultimately wasn't successful in doing that. You know, I hope
that Ace to be drafted by Washington, New Orleans or Brooklyn,
and that I wasn't the case. The Jazz, you know,
pick him at number five, which I still think is
(25:04):
probably a pretty good basketball situation for him. But it
seems like, look, you know, the Jazz do hold the
cards in this a little bit. And as a result,
kind of everyone fell in line over the last twenty
four hours say hey, yes, you know, Ace is coming
into Salt Lake City, is going to be working out
with the Jazz, you know in the next two days,
doing a press conference on Sunday, right like this is
(25:24):
all happening, and so, you know, I think for Ace,
he said all the right things. You know, I talked
to Ace at the combine, talk to him on draft day.
I think he's excited just to kind of get to
work on the basketball side. It was just for those
around him didn't see that Utah was the best place
for him. And you know, that's the tough thing about
drafts is you don't always get to go where you
(25:45):
want to go. It is your career is determined by
kind of this random order that that makes it so
that you go to whatever team picks you.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Andy.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
So one of the big talking points coming into the draft,
especially about Utah was you know, they tried tanking and
obviously the lottery balls and I'll bound their way. But
one thing that they've been trying to do with their
new head coach, with Lori Market and John Collins, a
lot of the guys out there is build a culture
that we want to get out from this seller do
all the situation we want to build. Forwarding it back
to Jazz basketball that was very successful for a very
(26:14):
long time, were you saying, yeah, so were you surprised
with that in mind that the guy they ended up
choot taking at number five was Ace Bailey, who, by
all indications, is more about his own you know, career,
in his own advancement than he is about building any
kind of culture. That part of the reason why he
went to Rutgers that is somewhere else, is because he
(26:35):
wanted to get his So were you surprised that that
was the pick?
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Yeah, two things on that one. I mean, I think
the Jazz, as desperately as they want to create a culture,
also want to create a co winning basketball team and
just frankly just need more talent, right, neither kind of
star level talent that kind of unlocks the rest of
the roster to some degree. So I think that was,
you know, the primary concern. But look, I've talked to
Awesome Ames about this and he's been pretty clear that
(26:59):
the they believe in a Bailey as a person as well,
Like they think he is a gym rat. You know,
everyone around as talked about how hard he works and
that's how he got to be the shooter and athlete
that he has become. So they're not that worried about
Ace's personality. They think that like, hey, you know he's
yes he's young, and yes he has some people around
(27:20):
him kind of giving bad advice. But ultimately this is
a kid who will work hard and will kind of
create and actually even help the culture. So I don't
think they see him as like a worry from a
culture point of view or a bad fit from creating
the culture they want to be. It's it's just that
he's young and has you know, agents and managers kind
of giving him the wrong advice at this point in
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his career.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Andy Larson, our guest covers of Utah Jazz and NBA
for the Salt Lake Tribute. Let me tell youself, do
what I think, guys, I think Danny Age, if you
watched you know, any any documentary or anything about the
Celtics when he was there as a player and then
obviously when he was running the basketball operations, one thing
he learned from, you know, and he was even saying
(28:02):
he was a little bit more cutthroat than red Eyurbuck
in that he's such a business mind, meaning like, hey,
I'm sorry, Like he even knew it was tinny cause
we had on the burden in Mchaelen Parrison, those guys
too long. He's like I thought they asked me. I
told Rad we need to get rid of him, like
he's just that kind of guy. I can rid of
Paul Pierce KG. The reason I say, which is the
opposite of the Lakers, Andy, As you know, the Lakers
(28:23):
will hold on. It's a family run. They just historically
not anymore, but they would hold on. The reason I
bring that up is I think Danny Ainge is savvy
enough to say, there's no way I'm gonna let it.
Could have been a number one draft pick in another draft.
That's how talented he is. Just go to another team
and if we'll give it a shot for a year
to it. If I don't like him, he can go.
(28:44):
If he starts pouting on like you, then you can
go and I'll go get some nice pieces for you.
I just think that's the way his mind works. He
he's not overly loyal to a player. I think he
can like a player and I love him, and he
can you know, I'm not fully committed to you as
much as I am winning. So am I wrong for that?
I mean that's all I literally heard it out his
own mouth and documentaries and stuff, his approach to this.
(29:05):
I'm not saying he doesn't like the person that he's
you know, these the human being that some of these
guys are, but he's all about what makes sense for
the team and the organization.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Yeah, I think so, which is you know, kind of
rare to see from a former player. But you're right,
he's as cutthroat as an EGM in the business, and
I think that's what's made him a good GM. You know,
the Kevin Garnett Paul's Tears trade worked out terrifically for Boston,
and then they went for the guys that, you know,
Jason Tatum May to get him when they had the
number one pick to trade back get more picks, get
(29:34):
Jalen Brown, a guy you know, not a lot of
people had at that thought in the draft at that time.
Is incredibly good Jimmy, you know. And yes, it meant
that they traded you know, Isaiah and and just Isaiah
Thomas and some beloved franchise figures, but they made the
move that they thought was best for the team. And
so yeah, you know, I think we see that a
(29:54):
little bit where and aust names just the new president
of basketball operations in Utah, Danny Ain't is the CEO
of basketball to this kind of goofy title, But like
they are pretty clear that that's kind of what is
what it takes to win in the NBA. Is that
cut through mentality, is going for the younger guys, is
going for players who you think have the chances to
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be stars moving forward rather than the stars of yesterday.
So I do think we're seeing that to some extent
with the Jazz with you know, certainly he traded Donovan
and Mitchell, Donovan, Mitchell and Rudy Gobert away, and you know,
it started this rebuild which has been pretty slow so
far but maybe ramps up a little bit in the
next couple of years.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Last one for me, Andy real Klick. You mentioned at
the beginning of the interview that as much as they
want to build a culture in Utah, they want to
get back to winning basketball. There's only one problem with that.
As good as this class was in twenty twenty five,
they're talking about the twenty twenty six draft class as
being historically great, especially you know'n get from byu aj
Depatz that it is supposed to be you know, one
(30:55):
of the next Feenix, right, he's the guy. So I know, oh,
you mentioned that that Utah doesn't want a tank because
it hasn't really worked out from in the past. But
they do have about sixty million dollars in expiring contracts
with John Collins, Collin Sexton, and Jordan Clarks. All those
guys would have a lot of value I think to
a lot of teams. Could you see a situation where
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the Angels kind of go back on their words. I
know we said we want to win right now, but
have you seen the draft class in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Yeah, Look, I mean they said they don't want to
tank next year. I don't think that necessarily means they
want to win next year, right right. I think that
means that they want to trade those guys away that
they had to frankly just sit out when they were
healthy last year in order to lose as many games
as possible to try to get Cooper Flagg. That didn't work,
but they you know, Ryan Smith, owner is the owner
of the Jazz is Byulm Danny h Byo alum. Like
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these guys know a d depons and what he brings
from what you can bring to the Jazz. Then you
have Cameron Boozer, who Carlos Boozer is now a Jazz scout,
and then you have the fact that the Jazz have
a top eight protected pick, which they owe Oklahoma City
if they are ninth or below in the draft next year.
So look, you know, I don't think that the Jazz
have real, really any intention to be competitive on it
(32:07):
good next year, you know. And it's they the West
is so good that I think they can be in
that bottom four of the West pretty easily. So you know,
I think they can kind of accomplish both goals, where hey,
you trade away those veteran guys, you allow the young
players on your roster to play, you're still probably not
all that good in the scheme of things, and you
have a pretty good lottery chance that one of the
top three guys in the twenty twenty six staff that yeah,
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do make a difference, and you pair them with Ace Bailey,
and all of a sudden, maybe you've got something cooking.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Well that's gonna be a long time if somebody's in
that kitchen cooking Andy, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Thanksgiving dinner and happening, you know, the big Sunday cookout
in and happen anytime soon up there.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Look, I think it's it says a lot that they
gave Will Hardy a six year extension right like this, Yeah,
is gonna be.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
A hang around for a little whether he winned too
much like two years ago and the hit who whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. You better relax. We were the two seed
for too long. Let's get back to the tam where
we need to be.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Yep, yep, you're exactly right.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
All right, Andy Man, appreciate your time. Enjoy the rest
of your Friday and your weekend. Brother, Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Yeah, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
All right, So on the way too, so Friday.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I'll tell you we feel good Friday, funky flashback Friday.
But sometimes life throws your limons and you try to
make lemonade, but it comes out like apple juice. It
ain't really working out. Rob G's had one of those days.
We're gonna be there for our brother rob G. On
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It is the odd couple kelvin Washington, Rob g and
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Speaker 5 (33:53):
And I don't even know I'm with it. This one
goes out to Rob Parker, native New Yorker. Oh, I'm
feeling it. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
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the vibe right.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Sixty eight. No, it ain't no sixty eight, No way
to sixty eight. No, it's how long I've been covering
the league.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Okay, Now hey's covering the league since nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
Ah Man, we got a whole lot.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Like I said, left in the show, looking forward to
a couple of chats we're gonna have in a little
bit as well. Coming up in a couple of the
hour three, we're gonna talk to a kil Augustine who
cover the Raptors on NBA TV. Some moving happening there,
some cleaning house happening above the border, So chat about
that in just a little bit.
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Speaker 4 (35:09):
Great having you on, man, But I called you, you know,
do our normal daily chatt of what we're gonna do
on the show and everything, and I said, rob.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
G, what's up? Usually you called me.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I'm like, hey, rob G, you know a long day.
You know, I'm doing the morning show on the news
and all that I called you was up, what's up?
Rob rob Gina building shit day baby? And you were like, hey,
what's up? Dub Yeah, all the what's up? One of
those days? Man?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
You know what?
Speaker 6 (35:31):
It started off beautifully right, I had I got to
the one of my gutters girls at the zoo to
day she had a great time with in laws. My
other one, I got it wrong. Time to daycare, had
time to get a workout in. I had Chipotle for lunch.
Chipotle is my life. Everything's doing good, pretty good, No,
I got I got a kids Build your Own.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
The key to kids Build your Own can be adults.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
It's pretty good, and especially if you don't want to
spend a lot of money. I was like, hey, it's
six bucks. I'm expect I already knew because alex It
text me before that you were buying pizza. Somebody don't
eat too much. So I'm gonna get a little bit
so I could be ready for later. That's besides the point.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
Continue Okay, So I get home, get the show prep
all done. I put on my new tenth anniversary wedding watch.
You know, look it's beautiful too. By the way, left
the house early so I can stop at the pharmacy
get the new upgraded We go ving so I'm about
to get the real, you know, fully fledged weight loss medication.
(36:27):
On the way into the studio, there was a tire
blowout by a semi truck in the second lane. I'm
in the second lane. Car in front of me gets
out of the way. I see it because there's cars
on either side of me. I don't I can't change lands.
I just gotta slam on the brakes or I just
got to drive through it. I figure it's probably more
dangerous slam on the brakes than if I just drive
(36:48):
through it. Gun it to what is eighty eight miles
an hour, blow right through it. Apparently a Tesla is
not made to take that kind of impact, because the
whole bottom cover of my car was dragging on the
freeway for the next mile and a half. I had
to pull over to a local hardware store by some
zip ties, so I looked like a broke college unit
right now driving into the studios.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Well, you know what the worst part about that, or
the part of at least I think everybody listening can
relate to, is when you're having a day that's going
so good as beautiful. I he's great, I got this done,
knocked this out, took the baby here, everything, and it's like, no,
not today, not today. But hey, everybody's been in that situation.
I committed you when you told me, because I say,
(37:30):
at least you realize it's probably not safe.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
For me to swerve or hit the break.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I'm oh, I'm gonna have to brace for impact because
there's a lot of people who swerve. Yes, and we
all have been the recipient of said swerve when some
mun just swerves in your lane or or that you know,
and you might have to swerve out of their lane.
And so I can say, on my half of so
many people and whoever was on the road with your design,
we appreciate that. But on the phone with you telling
me I ended up seeing them, it wasn't as bad
(37:54):
as I thought it was.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Listening to you, Expoge, it's more annoying because it's just
it's literally a piece of plastic that's covering up like
the little bottom area. And then, of course, you know,
because Tesla's are not regular cars, and that's what they
take them to a regular mechanic. I probably could if
I wanted to, But I say, go through the Tesla
app We'll get you set up with an appointment. We'll
get this knocked out. The estimate they give you right
there on the apple, Oh, it's only give about two
undred and saty final, All right, cool, I'm not ideal,
(38:16):
but I could pay it. The next appointment is not
for two weeks, so I'm be driving with the ziplock
zip tag.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Hey, I'm not gonna lie. The zip blocks was crazy
for two weeks. You gotta cut the ziplocks because Alex
he's got the zip blocks and they're just they're like
all the way look like they you look like. Now
I'm gonna use that, but yeah, you need to cut
them right now. That's the only other part of ADS.
You're not too bad, but it's crazy when you have
stuff like that. Happened the craziest car experience I had
and it wasn't me And it's not apples apples of
(38:43):
what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Coming home from spring break.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Twenty some odd years ago, and we see we hear
on the radio, we finally start getting bad. We drove
all the way down to the Florida. We're driving back
into Michigan and we're hearing the radio. It's going down
the up and smoke tool up and woked you up.
It smoked to eminem this person like Dann. It kept,
you know, on our whole drive. But here we hear
it Ian. Guess what happens when we see on the
(39:08):
side of the road their bus and engulfed in flames.
Eminem's tour buses on flames. Well, the whole time we're
coming up the freeway, coming up through the way, we
hear eminem tour bus, I mean Eminem on tour tour
tour is going down to night big console.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
His bus was on fire.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
We get out the car and we go, oh snell
like it's him in there, and we literally.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Go try to help him.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
As soon as we get out the cars, like a
movie scene, all the tires on the bus explode.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Wow because of the fire. So wow.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
It was just a crazy experience. And then I'm like, Joe,
what if we didn't save m.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
What if we did? This is pre social media, y'all.
We didn't know if it made it. We thought we'd
let em down for the city.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Let's get this, Putties, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Oh, rob G, that's right, Rober Wow.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Forget that other side of the glass, Alex. He's jumping
over here. Matter of fact, rob G, I don't even
know if you're jumping over here, jumping over there?
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Are you doing two? Three jobs? What are we doing today?
Are you just? Am I just getting.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
This version of you, the on air version of you.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
You know what, You get a little bit of everything
because we got the dream team in the back now,
the big a Alex tyshirt in between podcast posts, and
Ian is stepping up, hopping to bruce the show.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Ian came in and already you know, Ian was feeling
himself on a Friday. Ian told you what he might
or might not do. He said he I might come
in there, I might do this. I don't know, I
might not You know it's Friday. We'll see how I feel.
It is the couple kelvin Washington. That's right, Rob G
in the building in for Rob Parker, who, of course
Rob is on vacation joining baseball ball parks all around
(01:30):
this country. He'll be back soon enough, so hopefully he's
enjoyed himself. It's been a good week, Rob G. We've
had a handful of different people in so and a
lot of course to talk to as well.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
And we got a lot to get to you. By
the way, Rob G.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
The producer RG for him on Social ID couple FSR
and k dub live for myself, like to welcome in
the odd couple crew. We can't do this amazing show
without them. I guess ian I donated, Rob G.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
I don't know. I was talking to you today as
a producer.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I don't know half and half producers today getting you
ready for the show. Then we got dj Ali Alex,
our engineer extraordinaire.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Who guilted you and to buy pizza for everybody.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
I wasn't I wasn't gonna bring that up.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Guilted.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
You know it's funny. Hold on, let me let me
get it all.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Let me I walk in today and there's a couple
of boxes already there. Then I felt some type of way, Oh,
he's just gonna get pizzas without me or you order.
I know, but for a second there I thought you did.
So we'll be ordering pizzas today, Alex. He's gonna cost you.
You're gonna have to show me a workout regiment. So
you're gonna have to give me like a ten minute
workout regimen.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Before we get to that, all right, We got, of
course Steve the Sega gonna keep you updated on what's
happening around the sports world as well, so a lot
to get to. We got Andy Larson gonna join us
cover the Utah Jazz in the NBA at Large for
the Salt Lake Tribune. I don't know has As Bailey
showed up yet here y'all drafting me, but I we'll
(02:57):
find out about that.
Speaker 7 (02:58):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Some great conversation to happening in the WNBA, some stuff
to talk about there. And also Akil Augustine covered the
Raptors on NBA TV Canada for twenty plus years.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Some we'll say, some.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Rearranging, house cleft North, some house cleaning happening up north.
So a lot to get to, so buckle up for
the next few hours. We're gonna have a great one.
So Happy Friday to you and thank you for rocking
with your boys.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Rob G. We've been talking about Cooper Flagg over the last.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
School several weeks obviously, but this week especially, And you
know I mentioned this yesterday. Before we get in all
the dissecting and breaking down who did what, who shouldn't
have did this, this will be kind of the last
time I say it, and then after that we'll just
be hard on them for the rest of all these guys' careers.
Again after last night, one more time, congratulations to all
the young men who got drafted.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Amazing moment for them.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Again, I say they they've worked their entire lives to
get there, and they're in a position that such a
low percentage of humans can be really not even know.
We always like to tie that to any sport, only one.
In any sport, there's a lot of people who say, man,
I want to be a lawyer. I want to be that,
and never go through with it. So for them to
actually be able to fulfill their dreams, we get congratulations
to them.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Oh yeah, big fact, I mean just a couple of
days ago, Martin wi Ston on this share, we were
talking during one of the commercial breaks about, you know,
because you played high level high school ball, a lot
of guys you played with you that played in college
played in the NBA. So we're just talking, what is
the percentage of people who play in high school ended
up playing at a high level Division one You're like
maybe fifteen percent? Yeah, ten percent?
Speaker 5 (04:26):
About that?
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Yeah, how much of those guys play in the NBA?
Speaker 5 (04:29):
What point?
Speaker 4 (04:31):
So just think about it's crazy, right, and to be
there and to get drafted and then NBA draft, by
the way, it's not the MLB draft, which is like Steve,
how many rounds are MLB draft seventy eight? Stuff like
seventy eight rounds and you're getting you know, he is
the guy. They just drafted this kid in the forty
ninth round of the MLB, like forty nine. But the
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NBA is only two, you know, and and we already
know that only a handful of these guys are really
going to make an impact and really be in the league.
So it's just an amazing accomplishment. So I don't ever
want to belittle that are diminished that. So congrats them.
With that being said, though, Cooper flag now is the
guy for the Mavericks, which I don't know if Nico
Harrison is the luckiest man on earth, the most well
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informed man on earth, meaning like, hey, man, do what
you need to, don't worry about it. We got you,
we'll take care of But you get the number one pick.
You know how we do. You saw what happened with Zion.
You saw what happened when Lebron left, they got Kyrie.
You saw what happen when and when Ad left, and
they got Zion. Just you know, let me go on
down the line. So I don't know if he's well
informed or the luckiest man, but here we are the
Calves have the number one pick. And the thing that
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he said Nico Harrison, which was interesting is the two timelines.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
This is almost like ro movie was that Looper? Do
you ever see Looper?
Speaker 8 (05:44):
Nah?
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I never seen Looper?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
I And you saw Looper, right, Alex, No, you ain't
see yet. You saw Looper? Okay?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Bruce Willis And what's the other guy, the young kid
who played him?
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Love it? Love it?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Hewitt, Joseph Gordon, love it?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Yeah? At him? So it's like in the future but
in the past, it's been in the real time.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Then they both come together and then you see the
past with him and his confusing and that's what Nico
Harrison is operating now. He is playing Looper where he
says we're gonna be good. Now, we're gonna win, now,
we're gonna win in the future. And I said this yesterday.
I don't I buy what he's trying to sell me
on paper, because if I just listed the guys, you'd
be like, oh, that's a nice roster. But just you
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just woke up from a COVID and I said, hey, man,
here's a video of this kid who's been playing his
name Cooper Flag. You see the video, but oh, he
looks nice. And I said, ad, first ballot Hall of Famer.
You know what he does on both ends of the floor.
You go, oh, nice, Kyrie Irving, first ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
You know what he does? You said, ooh.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Then I go on to some young guys Lively in
Gafford and now Klay Thompson and some other people. They
have coming a PJ. Washington, really nice player. You like
what you see on paper? My thing is number one.
Kyrie Irving isn't playing right now. Kyrie Irvy might not
play until late February, could be later on in the spring.
And he's older coming off a serious injury, and you're
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banking on him being to play with another guy who
was older, who was often injured in ad So to me,
the win now is kind of like if you say so,
everybody has to be injury free, and that team is
injury prone, including Klay Thompson. And also you're gonna be
banking on a rookie who I think is gonna be good,
but it will also be finding his sea legs in
the NBA.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
So I don't buy.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Necessarily the win now as much as obviously Nico Harrison does.
But he has to sell something to the fan base.
He has to get them energized, and again that's his
job to be trying to win now. But I'm just
we would be worried about the way they're constructed, which
is why it was so hard on him trading Luca,
is that you only got older with Anthony Davis. You
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paired Anthony Davis with the Kyrie who's got injured, and
guess what happened last year Anthony Davis get injured. The
first game, he's back. A little bit later on in
the season, Kyrie Irving gets injured. So to me, and
you know, you said here, how many times I was
saying that. How many times I say, you got two
guys who are often injured. Boom, both of them get
injured in the same year. So that had been my concern.
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But there's other points that you can point to about
Cooper flag that. Even Jason Kidd said that. We'll get
to it in a minute. But your thoughts on the
two timelines, the looper of it all is I'm calling it.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
It's just not realistic. And the most recent example we've
seen of this is the Golden State Warriors. If people saying, well,
they want a championship in twenty twenty two, what he
maden't work? If you watch that team, they fell ass
backwards into it. They tried so hard to say James Wiseman,
Jonathan kaminga, Moses Moody, We're gonna build those guys, while
also being in contention with Steph clay Andre when that
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run took off. None of those three guys were important,
No young guys. It was the old Wiley Vets. Jordan
Poole was a revelation. Nobody was explaining anything from him
when they dropped him, laying the first round.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Heavy on the Wolves, And yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
And Andrew Wiggins finally realized his full potential. He only
had it for one season, but he realized it, and
you could argue he was their second best player during
that playoff run. And the problem that you run into
with those two situations is you have the Wiley Vetts
and this HiT's gonna be Anthony Davis, who has a ring,
so he knows that he wants one more than probably
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these guys want their second, the first one. Klay Thompson,
who has held bent on proving that Golden State made
a mistake by low balling him in that contract offer.
Kyrie Irving reportedly is gonna try to rush back as
soon as possible. Whether that's you know, smart on his
term short and long term, I don't know, but he
wants to come back and win right away. How on
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earth are you gonna be able to satisfy all three
of these guys and still do what Jason Kidd just
said earlier today did in the press conference. Let Cooper
flag make mistakes, Let Cooper Flagg develop on the fly,
where he mentioned and will play this down here in
a second. Yeah, turn the ball over. I don't care
I need to do that. We're gonna put the ball
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in your hands and let you pass to the wrong guy,
make the wrong read, throw the wrong pack like. You
can't have both because inevitably, when you get to April,
May and June in the postseason, because I think they're
gonna be the playof Cooper, Flag's not gonna be allowed
to make those kind of mistakes anymore. You can't say, Ay, Coop,
you're gonna be our new Yohannis, you're a new point guard.
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Walk Kyrie's down. Do what you gotta do. Well, you
can't do in the Western Conference because if you trick
things around, you're no longer a top six seed. Now
you're in nine, ten, eleven, and then what, by.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
The way, I hate I don't mind the play in.
I don't like the seventh seed being in the play in,
meaning I get the eight. You're the last of something.
If you're the last of something, so then you were
close to not even making it. Okay, great, let's have
the eight to nine and it makes it fun, right,
who was exciting to play it?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
I'm okay with that.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
If I were, I don't like the seventh seed, especially
in the Western Conference, because the seventh seed you might
be ten games above five hundred and you're like, man,
I cannot make the post.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
We've seen that happen before.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
I believe the Warriors happened to them once, or they've
gotten to play in and lost to the Lakers. I
believe it was like, I've never been a fan of
that the playing worked.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
What was it during the bubble year when they said,
if you're within six games of the eight seed, we
only got ten games off season? Yep, sure, but now
you had to allow to see you to think of
the Eastern Conference where eleven and twelve, we're like thirteen games.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Back and we got a shot, and once we get
into tournament, right, you never know. He's like, no, I know,
you guys suck and you shouldn't even have an option
and a chance to be in this at that. So
all right, I want to let's play this sound real quick.
You mentioned Jason Kidd, one of the great point guards
of all time. Looking at Cooper Flag as maybe a
taller point guard, let's se what you have to say
about that.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I want to put him in at the point guard.
I want to make him uncomfortable and see how he
reacts being able to run the show, being able to
play the two, play the three. He's he's comfortable playing that,
but we want to push and I think he's going
to respond in a positive way. It's all right to fail,
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It's all right to turn the ball over. We've talked
about that, you know, just understanding the guys that I've
been around that are being young from Giannis giving him
the ball and he failed, but he wanted to come
back and have the ball. So I'm excited about giving
him the ball against the Lakers and see what happens.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
What will happen, Rob, I'll tell you what's gonna happen.
He's gonna have a real problem on his hands because
if you look at that roster in Dallas, they got
seven legitimate front court options that would play on a
decent team, right Cooper Flag, Anthony Davis, Daniel Gafford, Derek Lively,
PJ Washington, Naji Marshall, and what's the other from Miami,
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Kayla Martin. Yeah, all every one of those guys, you
can argue should get a minimum fifteen to twenty minutes
on an average NBA team. I think you're gonna have
a real difficult situation in Dallas where you're gonna allow
Cooper Flag to develop the way you want him to
develop while keeping that two timeline track. When you have
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I could argue right now at least three or four
guys who deserve minutes at the front court positions ahead
of him. So unless they decide, Cooper Flag, you are
our small forward, moving forward, point blank period, Anthony David,
you don't like plank center, you are five. Cooper Flag
is our four. That's what we're gonna do. That's how
we're gonna maximize this team right now. That's how we're
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gonna maximize our Cooper Flag timeline. And unless they do that,
I don't know if we're even gonna see Cooper Flag
reach his full potential, much less the team.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
So I actually disagree with you, Rob g our first disagreement,
because I think what he's trying to create is not
that he's a point guard in the sense of Magic
Johnson Isaiah Thomas, a traditional point guard. I think what
he is looking at and looking at success over the
last ten to fifteen years. If you look at the
Warriors when they were winning, everybody always said Steph Curry
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the greatest point because Steph Curry's not a point guard.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Stop it. Steph Curry is a combo guard.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Right, Steph Curry for the first run the first seven
eight years, didn't even bring the ball up.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
You know who brought the ball up?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Onguadala, Leonardo Barbosaving, Sean Livingston, Draymond Green. Those are a
bunch of other guys brought the ball up for him.
And so where I think there where he's going with
this is I think he's saying, I don't need you
to be me Steve Nash, Chris Paul, some of the greats.
What I do need is in this current NBA guys
are out. Pascal Sia can get the ball, he can go,
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he can be on the break. And I think he's
looking at the successful teams. If you look at the
thunder SGA doesn't have to stop the whole entire game
to go get the ball. And I'm gonna tell you
a team it doesn't work for the Lakers. What happens,
Lebron has to stop, come get the ball. Pre Luca,
it always had to be him, right Lebron, Ron, You
still run like a freight trade.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Just go go. But he has a hold on wait.
Let you know, he has to do his little handwipe
on his jersey. Let me get the ball, let me
take it up slowly.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I think Jason Kidd wants this to be like the
bulls of the nineties, Ron Harper, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen,
Tony Koukoch all these guys can get the ball and
bring it up and go, the Warriors of their all.
These guys can get the ball and go, the thunder
Sga Wallace, it can be Caruso, j dub anybody even check.
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Get the ball and go. And I think that's what
he's trying to create, so that they can get some
better pacing.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
They can get they don't have to always have a set.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
And I think also knowing Kyrie, your best ball handler
is not going to be back for some time, I
need as many people making good decisions and being able
to control a break and get stuff going. So that's
what I think he's trying to create, is he's looking
at the current NBA, whether it be the Houston Rockets
as well, this current NBA. The Pacers think about it,
it's like six guys who can bring the ball up.
And I think he's said the Pistons even had that.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
You know, just go.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
It doesn't have to be traditional early mid two thousands,
you know, the early nineties were like one or two guys.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
You literally get a rebound from the four or the
five traditional where's my point guard? Here you go. You
have to Now I run down. He's saying, bring it down,
go go, go, pacing, keeping the defense on their heels.
So I think that's what the what Jason Kidd is
trying to create. And part of that will be Cooper
Flagg is gonna be athletic. He's gonna get you seven
six to eight rebounds. I don't want you to have
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to think all the time, find somebody, just go. And
I think he's trying to create that mindset for him. Dude,
you don't have to wait. And it's not my time,
it's not my possession. No, go create, get some If
it's there, it's there, and that's how you get those
Pascal Siakam easy buckets. Sometimes I ain't gotta draw a
play for you, I gotta it just happened in transition.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
You made a play, You made the right decision.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
I would agree with you if their roster wasn't built
with four centers and five power forwards, because who who
on their team? And that you bring me Pascal Siakam
and the Pacers. Almost everybody on their team save for
Miles Turner and their backup center Thomas Bryant, former Laker,
is capable of doing something like that. If you look
at Dallas and assuming Kyrie doesn't come back for a while,
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it's well, I don't even specially then when he has
a contract right now. It's Max Christy, it's Klay Thompson,
it's Anthony Davis, it's Daniel Gaffort. Like, none of those
guys are known as creators. So what I think that
they would be best served, assuming they're serious about trying
to win now and they really want to get this
done and and really go for this two timeline thing,
is consolidate your roster. You don't need to have three centers,
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you don't need to have seven guys competing for two spots.
So unless I like they're playing this three D chess
game that they kind of fell ass backwards into with
the whole drafting situation, and I just think they're gonna
find themselves and they have enough time with they be good.
But it's just such a murky situation for them. I
don't think it's working out.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
I get what you're saying, and that's a good thing
to me though, of having all those bodies, because what
are the next Lakers need size?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
You know?
Speaker 6 (17:42):
I bet you they trade with them again though, but
at that.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Point it will be the Dallas Lakers.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
But I'm using as an example of some teams still
need some size, and hey, if I got something that's
in demand, I can supply it.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
You know that. I'm up right now, all right on
the way.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Also, Cooper Flag mentioned something Rob g we were saying
about the luxury he has that other top picks don't
off to have.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
We'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
And if you want to jump in eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox,
are they in a win now and win in the
future situation? And do you like j kids thought process
of letting Cooper Flag learn to play the point and
just go and make mistakes in real time eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Will take your calls on that as well.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
See I couple Kelvin Washington, Rob G and to build
it in for Rob Parker Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
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Speaker 5 (18:42):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
It is the Couple, Kelvin Washington, Rob G and for
Rob who is out on vacation.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
When's he coming back? Robb G.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
He's back on Monday. And if you were in what
was it the New Jersey area, he was speaking at
your high school commencement today.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Wow, did he over under? I'm nothing, gon do it?
Do it? Oh?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
When I was at this school, when I'm the Hall
of Famer, if my name's over there, my name's.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Over there, and look what I said, Look what I did.
And then you know when I was used to sit
right there and it's crazy. Oh God, you're gonna tell
us something about the journey? Oh God, And it's crazy.
I've happened to bro this print out picture of me
in nineteen eighty three.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
By the way, mlbbro dot com.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
If you want more information, that's the hat I'm wearing
right now with this divincement. If you talk though, and
some of you in about five years, I'll see you.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
What's the line, Alex with the I D if it's
a sideway, ID, it's not for me.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Oh my gosh, we missed your Rob all right, I
was gonna get to We're not.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
We don't have we don't have time to get to now.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
But Cooper Flag was saying Rob g that he feels
blessed to not have to be the centerpiece. And it's
interesting because so many draft picks. I don't think it's
any more prevalent than two positions, whether you're the star
pick of Cooper Flag, a zion in the NBA, or
a star quarterback. Because if you're bryce young and it's
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like everybody know that, the whole city is excited. You know,
if you're Caleb Williams, the whole city is excited. Everybody
you're getting ready to come be this thing. And it's
so hard, you know, it's so hard to change a franchise.
It's so hard to be that.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Mind.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You in Cooper's case, you're eighteen, or maybe some other
guys are nineteen or you're twenty, and an entire city
is like, hey, come change everything that this organization is
general manager of this president of basketball. Everybody's been not
being able to do, not these veterans, but all of
a sudden, you have to come do this, And I
just think it's it's such a difficult position. So of
him understanding that he's privileged, I think, I think I
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like the position he's in where he gets to go
in learn they have you mentioned the roster. They have
a good team. They should be good. Maybe not great,
maybe not a top five, seeds sixty, but a good team,
good coach.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
And he gets to walk into that. Right, you don't
have to go save the Wizards.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I'll tell you what his outlook on this thing. It's
very mature to be honest with you. But in many
ways you could argue it's like the anti Ace Bailey,
where he's like, Hey, I want to come in and
be part of a team. I want to win. I
want to do whatever it takes for this franchise, for
this group. Based on what we're hearing in the reporting
around as Bailey is, I want all the buckets, I
want all the shots. I want the least amount of competition.
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I want to make sure I get mine so I
can get this second contract and get paid it's incredible
that you see the well basically become the two hallmark
marquee names of this NBA draft, and they seem to
have completely opposite viewpoints towards the league and their career.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Well, I'll tell you what, man, We're gonna have an
extended conversation about what's happening with Ace Bailey a little
bit later in hour three.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
So looking forward to that.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
All right, let's go go to Steve right now, because
Andy Larson on the other side of what's trendy?
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Hey, Steve, Hello there.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
Angels manager Ron Washington will remain on medical leave for
the rest of the season. Washington is seventy three in
his second year there. The Angels have one of the
late gamesting Washington. The Mets are at Pittsburgh in the
bottom of the second and scoreless. The New York Mets
are first in the nl East half game over the Phillies.
By the way, Philadelphia is at Atlanta tonight. News from
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the Met's not good today. Predictably, the pitcher Griffin Canning
had surgery for a torn achilles rain delay at the
start for Minnesota at Detroit. Rays are out to a
two to nothing lead at Baltimore Yankee scoreless in the
second against the A's Yanks. First in the AL East
half game over Tampa Bay. Toronto is three back. Blue
Jays are leading one nothing at Boston in the bottom
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of the first. Boston Red Sox have lost five games
in a row. Five WNBA contests tonight, including Minnesota at
twelve and two about to start at Atlanta, and Indiana
playing at Dallas. Caitlin Clark out again with a groin injury.
US Men's soccer plays its Gold Cup quarterfinal on Sunday
against Costa Rica. That'll be on Fox TV from Minnesota.
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The FIFA Club World Cup quarterfinals start on Saturday. The
Florida Panthers playoff MVP Sam Bennett signed an eight year extension.
The NHL and its players union agreed to an extension
of the CBA through twenty thirty. The NHL regular season
will increase to eighty four games per team in a year.
The Utah Jazz say first round or Ace Bailey, We'll
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report on Saturday, with a news conference on Sunday. Practice
on Monday. The team's rookies will then fly to Summer
League from Salt Lake City.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Back to you, all right, Steve, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I couple covin Washington, Rob g and for Rob on
his funky Flashback Friday. And we're joined now by Andy Larson,
who covers the Utah Jazz in the NBA at Large
for the Salt Lake Tribune.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Andy B.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Larson on X give him a follow Andy, what's up man?
Happy Friday? How you doing hey man?
Speaker 7 (23:43):
I'm doing good.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
How are you doing good?
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Man?
Speaker 4 (23:45):
We've just had a little quick conversation about Ace Bailey.
We'll have an extended one a little bit later on,
but we'll start there. Just what do you make of
the last few weeks? Face Bailey? Obviously very talented not
I mean, you could argue just about his talent as
Cooper Flag. Some people think more talented than Cooper Flag.
But here we are where the story is and just
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how good he is and how good he can be.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
It's well, he didn't take any visits.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Well now, he might not even be showing up to Utah,
and he didn't want to get drafted by Utah, but
yet they still drafted him. What's been up with this
journey that landed him there with the fifth Pig?
Speaker 7 (24:20):
Yeah, Look, I think it's about the people you put
around you a little bit, and it's hard to do
that when you're fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and now Ace is
still only eighteen. But like, you know, he's worked with
Omar Cooper is his manager, and kind of has been
the guy representing himself, representing Ace to NBA teams throughout
this process, and I, you know, I think as someone
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who's kind of seen himself as a future star for
a long time, Omar kind of bought into that and
then said, hey, we should dictate where you go, and
ultimately wasn't successful in doing that. You know, I hope
that Ace to be drafted by Washington, New Orleans or Brooklyn,
and that I wasn't the case. The Jazz, you know,
pick him at number five, which I still think is
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probably a pretty good basketball situation for him. But it
seems like, look, you know, the Jazz do hold the
cards in this a little bit. And as a result,
kind of everyone fell in line over the last twenty
four hours say hey, yes, you know, Ace is coming
into Salt Lake City, is going to be working out
with the Jazz, you know in the next two days,
doing a press conference on Sunday, right like this is
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all happening, and so, you know, I think for Ace,
he said all the right things. You know, I talked
to Ace at the combine, talk to him on draft day.
I think he's excited just to kind of get to
work on the basketball side. It was just for those
around him didn't see that Utah was the best place
for him. And you know, that's the tough thing about
drafts is you don't always get to go where you
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want to go. It is your career is determined by
kind of this random order that that makes it so
that you go to whatever team picks you.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Andy.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
So one of the big talking points coming into the draft,
especially about Utah was you know, they tried tanking and
obviously the lottery balls and I'll bound their way. But
one thing that they've been trying to do with their
new head coach, with Lori Market and John Collins, a
lot of the guys out there is build a culture
that we want to get out from this seller do
all the situation we want to build. Forwarding it back
to Jazz basketball that was very successful for a very
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long time, were you saying, yeah, so were you surprised
with that in mind that the guy they ended up
choot taking at number five was Ace Bailey, who, by
all indications, is more about his own you know, career,
in his own advancement than he is about building any
kind of culture. That part of the reason why he
went to Rutgers that is somewhere else, is because he
(26:35):
wanted to get his So were you surprised that that
was the pick?
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Yeah, two things on that one. I mean, I think
the Jazz, as desperately as they want to create a culture,
also want to create a co winning basketball team and
just frankly just need more talent, right, neither kind of
star level talent that kind of unlocks the rest of
the roster to some degree. So I think that was,
you know, the primary concern. But look, I've talked to
Awesome Ames about this and he's been pretty clear that
(26:59):
the they believe in a Bailey as a person as well,
Like they think he is a gym rat. You know,
everyone around as talked about how hard he works and
that's how he got to be the shooter and athlete
that he has become. So they're not that worried about
Ace's personality. They think that like, hey, you know he's
yes he's young, and yes he has some people around
(27:20):
him kind of giving bad advice. But ultimately this is
a kid who will work hard and will kind of
create and actually even help the culture. So I don't
think they see him as like a worry from a
culture point of view or a bad fit from creating
the culture they want to be. It's it's just that
he's young and has you know, agents and managers kind
of giving him the wrong advice at this point in
(27:41):
his career.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Andy Larson, our guest covers of Utah Jazz and NBA
for the Salt Lake Tribute. Let me tell youself, do
what I think, guys, I think Danny Age, if you
watched you know, any any documentary or anything about the
Celtics when he was there as a player and then
obviously when he was running the basketball operations, one thing
he learned from, you know, and he was even saying
(28:02):
he was a little bit more cutthroat than red Eyurbuck
in that he's such a business mind, meaning like, hey,
I'm sorry, Like he even knew it was tinny cause
we had on the burden in Mchaelen Parrison, those guys
too long. He's like I thought they asked me. I
told Rad we need to get rid of him, like
he's just that kind of guy. I can rid of
Paul Pierce KG. The reason I say, which is the
opposite of the Lakers, Andy, As you know, the Lakers
(28:23):
will hold on. It's a family run. They just historically
not anymore, but they would hold on. The reason I
bring that up is I think Danny Ainge is savvy
enough to say, there's no way I'm gonna let it.
Could have been a number one draft pick in another draft.
That's how talented he is. Just go to another team
and if we'll give it a shot for a year
to it. If I don't like him, he can go.
(28:44):
If he starts pouting on like you, then you can
go and I'll go get some nice pieces for you.
I just think that's the way his mind works. He
he's not overly loyal to a player. I think he
can like a player and I love him, and he
can you know, I'm not fully committed to you as
much as I am winning. So am I wrong for that?
I mean that's all I literally heard it out his
own mouth and documentaries and stuff, his approach to this.
(29:05):
I'm not saying he doesn't like the person that he's
you know, these the human being that some of these
guys are, but he's all about what makes sense for
the team and the organization.
Speaker 7 (29:13):
Yeah, I think so, which is you know, kind of
rare to see from a former player. But you're right,
he's as cutthroat as an EGM in the business, and
I think that's what's made him a good GM. You know,
the Kevin Garnett Paul's Tears trade worked out terrifically for Boston,
and then they went for the guys that, you know,
Jason Tatum May to get him when they had the
number one pick to trade back get more picks, get
(29:34):
Jalen Brown, a guy you know, not a lot of
people had at that thought in the draft at that time.
Is incredibly good Jimmy, you know. And yes, it meant
that they traded you know, Isaiah and and just Isaiah
Thomas and some beloved franchise figures, but they made the
move that they thought was best for the team. And
so yeah, you know, I think we see that a
(29:54):
little bit where and aust names just the new president
of basketball operations in Utah, Danny Ain't is the CEO
of basketball to this kind of goofy title, But like
they are pretty clear that that's kind of what is
what it takes to win in the NBA. Is that
cut through mentality, is going for the younger guys, is
going for players who you think have the chances to
(30:16):
be stars moving forward rather than the stars of yesterday.
So I do think we're seeing that to some extent
with the Jazz with you know, certainly he traded Donovan
and Mitchell, Donovan, Mitchell and Rudy Gobert away, and you know,
it started this rebuild which has been pretty slow so
far but maybe ramps up a little bit in the
next couple of years.
Speaker 6 (30:34):
Last one for me, Andy real Klick. You mentioned at
the beginning of the interview that as much as they
want to build a culture in Utah, they want to
get back to winning basketball. There's only one problem with that.
As good as this class was in twenty twenty five,
they're talking about the twenty twenty six draft class as
being historically great, especially you know'n get from byu aj
Depatz that it is supposed to be you know, one
(30:55):
of the next Feenix, right, he's the guy. So I know, oh,
you mentioned that that Utah doesn't want a tank because
it hasn't really worked out from in the past. But
they do have about sixty million dollars in expiring contracts
with John Collins, Collin Sexton, and Jordan Clarks. All those
guys would have a lot of value I think to
a lot of teams. Could you see a situation where
(31:15):
the Angels kind of go back on their words. I
know we said we want to win right now, but
have you seen the draft class in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
Yeah, Look, I mean they said they don't want to
tank next year. I don't think that necessarily means they
want to win next year, right right. I think that
means that they want to trade those guys away that
they had to frankly just sit out when they were
healthy last year in order to lose as many games
as possible to try to get Cooper Flagg. That didn't work,
but they you know, Ryan Smith, owner is the owner
of the Jazz is Byulm Danny h Byo alum. Like
(31:45):
these guys know a d depons and what he brings
from what you can bring to the Jazz. Then you
have Cameron Boozer, who Carlos Boozer is now a Jazz scout,
and then you have the fact that the Jazz have
a top eight protected pick, which they owe Oklahoma City
if they are ninth or below in the draft next year.
So look, you know, I don't think that the Jazz
have real, really any intention to be competitive on it
(32:07):
good next year, you know. And it's they the West
is so good that I think they can be in
that bottom four of the West pretty easily. So you know,
I think they can kind of accomplish both goals, where hey,
you trade away those veteran guys, you allow the young
players on your roster to play, you're still probably not
all that good in the scheme of things, and you
have a pretty good lottery chance that one of the
top three guys in the twenty twenty six staff that yeah,
(32:30):
do make a difference, and you pair them with Ace Bailey,
and all of a sudden, maybe you've got something cooking.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Well that's gonna be a long time if somebody's in
that kitchen cooking Andy, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Thanksgiving dinner and happening, you know, the big Sunday cookout
in and happen anytime soon up there.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Look, I think it's it says a lot that they
gave Will Hardy a six year extension right like this, Yeah,
is gonna be.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
A hang around for a little whether he winned too
much like two years ago and the hit who whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. You better relax. We were the two seed
for too long. Let's get back to the tam where
we need to be.
Speaker 7 (33:02):
Yep, yep, you're exactly right.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
All right, Andy Man, appreciate your time. Enjoy the rest
of your Friday and your weekend. Brother, Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
Yeah, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
All right, So on the way too, so Friday.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
I'll tell you we feel good Friday, funky flashback Friday.
But sometimes life throws your limons and you try to
make lemonade, but it comes out like apple juice. It
ain't really working out. Rob G's had one of those days.
We're gonna be there for our brother rob G. On
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Speaker 5 (33:53):
And I don't even know I'm with it. This one
goes out to Rob Parker, native New Yorker. Oh, I'm
feeling it. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
It's giving me Major nineteen seventy seven and I'm filling
the vibe right.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
Sixty eight. No, it ain't no sixty eight, No way
to sixty eight. No, it's how long I've been covering
the league.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Okay, Now hey's covering the league since nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
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Speaker 4 (34:16):
Like I said, left in the show, looking forward to
a couple of chats we're gonna have in a little
bit as well. Coming up in a couple of the
hour three, we're gonna talk to a kil Augustine who
cover the Raptors on NBA TV. Some moving happening there,
some cleaning house happening above the border, So chat about
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Great having you on, man, But I called you, you know,
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on the show and everything, and I said, rob.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
G, what's up? Usually you called me.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I'm like, hey, rob G, you know a long day.
You know, I'm doing the morning show on the news
and all that I called you was up, what's up?
Rob rob Gina building shit day baby? And you were like, hey,
what's up? Dub Yeah, all the what's up? One of
those days? Man?
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Speaker 6 (35:31):
It started off beautifully right, I had I got to
the one of my gutters girls at the zoo to
day she had a great time with in laws. My
other one, I got it wrong. Time to daycare, had
time to get a workout in. I had Chipotle for lunch.
Chipotle is my life. Everything's doing good, pretty good, No,
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Speaker 6 (36:05):
Continue Okay, So I get home, get the show prep
all done. I put on my new tenth anniversary wedding watch.
You know, look it's beautiful too. By the way, left
the house early so I can stop at the pharmacy
get the new upgraded We go ving so I'm about
to get the real, you know, fully fledged weight loss medication.
(36:27):
On the way into the studio, there was a tire
blowout by a semi truck in the second lane. I'm
in the second lane. Car in front of me gets
out of the way. I see it because there's cars
on either side of me. I don't I can't change lands.
I just gotta slam on the brakes or I just
got to drive through it. I figure it's probably more
dangerous slam on the brakes than if I just drive
(36:48):
through it. Gun it to what is eighty eight miles
an hour, blow right through it. Apparently a Tesla is
not made to take that kind of impact, because the
whole bottom cover of my car was dragging on the
freeway for the next mile and a half. I had
to pull over to a local hardware store by some
zip ties, so I looked like a broke college unit
right now driving into the studios.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
Well, you know what the worst part about that, or
the part of at least I think everybody listening can
relate to, is when you're having a day that's going
so good as beautiful. I he's great, I got this done,
knocked this out, took the baby here, everything, and it's like, no,
not today, not today. But hey, everybody's been in that situation.
I committed you when you told me, because I say,
(37:30):
at least you realize it's probably not safe.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
For me to swerve or hit the break.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I'm oh, I'm gonna have to brace for impact because
there's a lot of people who swerve. Yes, and we
all have been the recipient of said swerve when some
mun just swerves in your lane or or that you know,
and you might have to swerve out of their lane.
And so I can say, on my half of so
many people and whoever was on the road with your design,
we appreciate that. But on the phone with you telling
me I ended up seeing them, it wasn't as bad
(37:54):
as I thought it was.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Listening to you, Expoge, it's more annoying because it's just
it's literally a piece of plastic that's covering up like
the little bottom area. And then, of course, you know,
because Tesla's are not regular cars, and that's what they
take them to a regular mechanic. I probably could if
I wanted to, But I say, go through the Tesla
app We'll get you set up with an appointment. We'll
get this knocked out. The estimate they give you right
there on the apple, Oh, it's only give about two
undred and saty final, All right, cool, I'm not ideal,
(38:16):
but I could pay it. The next appointment is not
for two weeks, so I'm be driving with the ziplock
zip tag.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Hey, I'm not gonna lie. The zip blocks was crazy
for two weeks. You gotta cut the ziplocks because Alex
he's got the zip blocks and they're just they're like
all the way look like they you look like. Now
I'm gonna use that, but yeah, you need to cut
them right now. That's the only other part of ADS.
You're not too bad, but it's crazy when you have
stuff like that. Happened the craziest car experience I had
and it wasn't me And it's not apples apples of
(38:43):
what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Coming home from spring break.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Twenty some odd years ago, and we see we hear
on the radio, we finally start getting bad. We drove
all the way down to the Florida. We're driving back
into Michigan and we're hearing the radio. It's going down
the up and smoke tool up and woked you up.
It smoked to eminem this person like Dann. It kept,
you know, on our whole drive. But here we hear
it Ian. Guess what happens when we see on the
(39:08):
side of the road their bus and engulfed in flames.
Eminem's tour buses on flames. Well, the whole time we're
coming up the freeway, coming up through the way, we
hear eminem tour bus, I mean Eminem on tour tour
tour is going down to night big console.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
His bus was on fire.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
We get out the car and we go, oh snell
like it's him in there, and we literally.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Go try to help him.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
As soon as we get out the cars, like a
movie scene, all the tires on the bus explode.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
Wow because of the fire. So wow.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
It was just a crazy experience. And then I'm like, Joe,
what if we didn't save m.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
What if we did? This is pre social media, y'all.
We didn't know if it made it. We thought we'd
let em down for the city.
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