February 12, 2024 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob debate whether or not the latest Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl victory makes them a dynasty, tell us what letter grade they’d give Brock Purdy in the loss last night and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, former Pro Bowl wide receiver and Up on Game on FOX Sports Radio co-host TJ Houshmandzadeh swings by to discuss how much blame Kyle Shanahan and Steve Wilks deserve for the 49ers’ Super Bowl loss, what makes Patrick Mahomes so historically great, his overall thoughts on Purdy’s performance and much more!
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What's up brother?
Speaker 6 (01:19):
What's happened to mister Christmashawan?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I am fantastic man, I am doing well?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
You I am?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I am good as well. It's a Monday. It's the
day after football season.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Is over. The fantastic finish tour of the Super Bowl game.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You remember we were growing up, we saw a lot
of bad Super Bowl games. I mean people really don't know,
like the games that we've seen, Chris, when they used
to be over in the first quarter or second quarter.
And now to get some of these good games, you
know what I mean where you're on the edge of
your seat and for.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
There is nothing worse rob than a in the Super Bowl.
Oh yeah, because you know, you get excited to watch it.
You get you might have people over. I mean, if
you're having people over to watch the game, it's one
thing if you just like my wife, she's part of
the party when we had a party last night, but
she don't care about the game, so she don't care
(02:17):
what the game is like.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
But if you the.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Dudes and women, they might want to wind me into
watch the game.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But we wanted to watch the game.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
The last one I can think of like that ride
with Seattle Denver with Peyton Manny and I mean that
thing was over in ten minutes.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
Over.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It was terrible.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
And last night, I mean it wasn't a good game.
It was a good game.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It was you know, there was some spots where it
wasn't that great during the game, But then, Chris, it's
always about the finish, you know what I mean, and
where you are, and it was a suitable for frame
and that's all we can say.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, I said early on when it was kind of
a defensive struggle, it was it reminds did me rob
of one of those Knicks Miami Heat game playoff game.
It wasn't really great artistically, but it was close, so
that makes it, you know what I mean. But when
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the in comes around, you're on the edge of your
seat because you don't know who's gonna win. Those Knicks
Heat games I cover. It would be it would ineviably,
inevitably be seventy seven, seventy four with two minutes left
to play.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So that makes it exciting because it's like, well, who's
gonna win?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
God knows. I covered plenty of those, so I was
there too.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But yeah, man, we're gonna talk about a lot of
stuff after Homes with his signature moment there and Shanahan
with his signature moment again, Chris, We'll talk about him
repeating itself like it's unbelievable. We'll get into all of
that and more so absolutely so.
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Speaker 4 (03:52):
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himself on the updates.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
All right, man, Steve, I just saw him, Chris great.
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And on the social media, the one, the only Elijah Sebuna.
All right, Rob, let's get into it. The final score
of Chiefs twenty five Niners twenty two in overtime, only
the second Super Bowl ever to go into overtime, which
is very interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It is when you think about it, that's fifty eight
super Bowls is a lot.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
You would have thought by now have been way more
than that, just two.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
So let me ask you that first of all, because
this will determine kind of the direction we go in.
The Chiefs have now won three Super Bowls in five years.
Do you consider them a dynasty?
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, So then explain that, because I.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Was gonna if you had said yes, I was gonna say,
is it the greatest dynasty? Obviously you don't think sothing.
You don't even think it's a dynasty. So go ahead
and tell why you don't think it's for me.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
For dynasty, you gotta win three in a row or
three out of four, that's just well.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know, Rob, in the NFL, nobody's won three in
a row. Yeah, but I'm just not in the super Bowl.
I said three in a row or three out of four,
not three out of five. I've got two dynasties in
the NFL Super Bowl era history.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's what I look at the dynasty.
Like the Cowboys to me, were the last dynasty. They
won three out of four. The Patriots and the Patriots, but.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Those are the only two. But first Patriots, like.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You know they won three eighty yeah, right, but that's it.
Those are only two we're considered. To me, I mean
I look at it when you don't.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Think you can move it, change it for sport depending
on the nature of you know, because the sports don't
win the same.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I don't look at it that way.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Same thing like when we talk about baseball, to me, right,
the Yankees won three out of four, four to five?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
What did they win three in a row? Four to five?
The last are you talking about the Derek Jeter Yankees?
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Right?
Speaker 6 (06:03):
They won in ninety eight, right, ninety eight, ninety nine? No,
did they win?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, they won ninety seven, I'm sorry, ninety seven, Christy,
ninety six, ninety eight, ninety nine, and two thousand that
you know, like like, to me, that's a dynasty where
you win, you know, in a short period of time.
That's why it was three straight and four out of five.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
To me, that's a dynasty. But that's just my definition.
You know, you look at it and everybody has their own.
I just like the Spurs when we talk about them
all the time and they won what five championships in
twenty years or whatever it was. I just don't think
that's a real dynasty. It means you're a good you know,
you have a good franchise, Chris, and a winning franchise. No, no, no,
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but I mean the winning franchise. But a dynasty is
because because the Spurs never even won back to back, right,
and I think that's a.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Big Well we did.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You and I different definition of dynasties, and I do
think the sports it can vary slightly with the sports.
One thing I really take into account with dynasty is
the participants. I consider the Spurs of dynasty because Tim
Duncan was the hub.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Of all five of those championships.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Now it was over twenty years, but as long as
he was there, they were going to be right there.
They would win fifty games every year and have a
chance to win it. The Brady But let's stick to football.
I think the greatest dynasty, just like I consider the
spurs of dynasty in basketball. I consider the Patriots under
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Brady because the participants mainly, or the main two participants
in this case.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Brady and Belichick stayed.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
A lot of other people changed, but it was Brady
and Belichick the two main guys. And I consider that
whole run one dynasty, so six and twenty years.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But most people don't.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Most people want to, even those that consider the dynasty,
they want to split it in the two.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Because you know what I mean, Christy's long at it.
It's a long time to say they're a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Right, I get it, But it's I think because it
was the same participants.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Just like the Niners in the eighties.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I think that was a dynasty, but they went years
without winning it, you know, multiple years without winning it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
But it was four in nine years.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So I consider rob definitely this chiefs now a dynasty
winning three and five years. I think it's still you know,
they're gonna continue to you know, we'll see what they
do going forward. But I don't think the dynasty is ending.
But I think they are definitely a dynasty. I think
if you split the Patriots in the two, which again
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most people do, so I'll go with that for now.
I think Rob the greatest dynasty in the history of
the NFL, or at least the Super Bowl era, was
the Pittsburgh Steelers of the seventies.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
They won four in six years.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Now, they wouldn't qualify by your standards because they didn't
win three and five, but they won four and six
two times, went back to back.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
That to me is the best two years, missing the.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Missing the super Bowl, not the playoffs. No, no, no, But
I'm just saying in the super Bowl. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
They went one year, they went to the conference championship, lost,
the next year, they went to the divisional round and lost.
Then they went back and won the next two and
again the players were the same essentially, and so I
think that's the best dynasty.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I do think Rob. If the Patriots or I'm sorry,
if the Chiefs win next year, and I think they
would become the greatest NFL dynasty because that would be
four in six years, just like the Page or the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But if they would have the first three.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Peat in the super Bowl era, and they would have
gone to five Super Bowls in the six year span,
whereas the Steelers had only gone to four and obviously
didn't three peat. Now, I keep saying super Bowl era
because Green Bay did win three straight twice, you know,
once when it was like in the twenties or thirties,
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when it was the just the end, you know, it
wasn't even the Super Bowl. And then they they won
the last They won two super the first two Super
Bowls and won the first, you know, the last NFL
championship before.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
The Super Bowl was created.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
That's what we were.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
They had won three in a row.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Talking about in the old days where the Packers, the Canadians,
the Celtics and Yankees won all the time.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
It was during that era.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So yeah, so I think these Steelers are the greatest
dynasty ever, But I think the Chiefs are right there chasing.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I'd go second. If you divide, I would only call
them a dynasty. If they win next year, that would
be three in a row, and to me, that would
would I would say they were a dynasty. I still
just don't as as much. And I said to by.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Your account, they could lose next year and then win
it the next year and that would be a dynasty.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Yeah, then they would win three out of four.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And here here's why, I'll say, because I even look
at the San Franciscisco Giants baseball team, right, they didn't
have a dynasty. What they win three championships in six years,
in six years, and they never won back to back.
It was really a weird and Buster Posey was a
big part of it because a lot of the same players,
but they never were able to put it back to back.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And that's why I think people don't look at that
Giants team as a dynasty when they talk about baseball dynasties,
despite three championships in six years.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, I I you on that six.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think that would be a dynasty. Yeah, I think
that would be a dynasty.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I think It's also feel like when I talk of
obviously Showtime Lakers was a dynasty, but I think.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
The Birds Celtics were right there too.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I mean that was a team that won three and
seven years, three and six years, and you know they
were right there every year.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And obviously won their share.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
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Speaker 3 (12:37):
Here we go.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
First of all, is this Chiefs run where now they've
won three Super Bowls in five years? Is it a dynasty?
Number one? And secondly, if so, is it the greatest
NFL dynasty in the Super Bowl Era? Your thoughts?
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eight seven seven ninety nine. On Fox, you're turned away
in on the Kansas City Chiefs. Is this a dynasty
and if so, where does it rank all time in
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the Super Bowl era?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
All right, let's go to I can't see Doug in
Kansas City. We'll start there.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Doug?
Speaker 9 (14:25):
Hello, gentlemen, happy New Year? Because I haven't spoken to
you a little bit.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
How are you good?
Speaker 9 (14:32):
The Chiefs have got to be the dynasty. I'm not
at the moment, no, but going forward, their salary cap,
who are they paying outside of Patrick Mahomes and Joe Towey.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And they might lose Chris Jones to get paid.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Yeah, he was only getting five million this year.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
So he was getting like twenty or nineteen.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
I think the cap that was five point four. But
I think they had money to I think they had
money to work with to get other pieces in where
they can keep going. They've focused their money around the quarterback,
which is the most important. Patrick Mahomes has been the
one that's gotten them where they need to be and
gotten them to the promise life.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
What's your definition of dynasty? That's where we are and
where are you?
Speaker 9 (15:18):
In my mind, dynasty is the Spurs, So they.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
That's a dynasty to you.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
I would say the Patriots and the Spurs are in
my life. I'm thirty seven. Is the Spurs and the
Patriots or dynasties in my life?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
So this Chiefs team winning three of the last five
Super Bowls is not a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I know.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
I honestly I think that. I can't wait to hear
your answers.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
He doesn't think it's a dynasty, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think it's a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Thanks though, So he wouldn't consider I think he got
He's just along long period.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
He probably wouldn't consider the Cowboys of dynasty. He went
three out of four.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, come on, that's a dynasty. Jerome and Charleston.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jerome?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
This is the modern day version of what a dynasty
would look like from now on, with free agency and
the money and players moving from team to team every
year and the draft and then shuffling and trying to
manage the salary camp. This is as close to Dynastie well.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Hold on, hold hold up, Jerome, we didn't have more
than this in the past.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
The dynasty is don't come around.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
The Steelers, when no one was moving in the seventies,
won four out of six. This is as close as
get no, No, You've only had two times in the
Super Bowl era where it was better, if you want
to say better, when the when the Patriots won three
out of four and the Cowboys won three out of four.
So you're saying like, even when teams were stagnant and
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your players remained, you didn't see bat than this.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
You doesn't have pre indencry.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I get all that.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
But my point is you're acting like, in this era
of free agency, you can't win like you used to,
when actually you can and it's.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Been proven, no, you can't.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
When you can't totally dominate like that now because like who,
like hold on, like who who totally king. Look, there's
a very.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Jerome Jerome who dominated in the past in a way
that the Chiefs can't dominate.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
The Cowboys, the Steelers, the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
One, four and six the three out of four to me.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
That is not going to let that happen anymore. Okay,
stop you one other thing I gotta mention. Rob says
he would take Eli Manning over Mahomes. You shine like
a New York Homer, Rob.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Christ Chris, you need to stay no EASi family ain't
taking Eli. Yes he is in the Super Bowl. And
let me tell you something. I grew up in Queens.
I was never a.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Giants fan, So stop stop.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Just because I'm from New York doesn't It's just a
bad take, Jerome.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It ain't about home.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It ain't no, I ain't no Homer about no Giants stopping.
It's a good take. For three and a half quarters.
It was a great take.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Dion in Texas, you're on the Yond Couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Dion?
Speaker 10 (18:26):
Hey, it's going on Fellas and joined the show as usual.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Look, thank you.
Speaker 10 (18:30):
This is a dynasty, whether it's the past the present,
the future. It's a dynasty. And I got them ranked
about third because you got the Pittsburgh Steelers and the
Cowboys winning three and four years. That's pretty impressive. Three
and five years is amazing. If they win it next year,
that's four and six years. I'll put them as the
greatest of all time in my opinions, with the greatest
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quarterbacks growing to.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Be of all time.
Speaker 10 (18:54):
Rob said, this guy plateaued, are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Yeah, it is what plateauing is. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
During the year when they were five and five their
last ten, yes, he did plateau During the regular season,
he won the same quarterback and he did, he did.
He Wait a minute, but but I'm giving you and
even through four quarters, five quarters in the postseason, they
were shut down the second half against Baltimore and they
at three points at halftime at the super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
That's what I'm talking about. That's not those are Mahomes
likes numbers. They're not. That's all I'm saying at all.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I'm he has started Super Bowl struggling.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
No, but I'm talking about he.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
And he usually comes back and Rob.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
There are seven times in the history of the Super
Bowl where teams have rallied from a double digit deficit.
He's done it, three of them. Like the dude is
a comeback king Uh in the Super Bowls. All right,
it is the Oka. We got TJ.
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Speaker 4 (20:07):
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Speaker 3 (20:12):
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Speaker 4 (20:14):
Our next guest, former Pro Bowl wide receiver friend of
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here on Fox Sports Radio, we bring in the man, TJ.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Houschmann's outa TJ. What's up? Brought up?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Man?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Man?
Speaker 10 (20:33):
Rib Chris?
Speaker 7 (20:34):
What's up? Baby?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I got to see TJ. Chris Uh in Las Vegas.
He was there doing this thing and he looks like
he could still play. Doesn't have an ounce of fat
on his body.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
He looks great. Its great.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
Hey be deceiving.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I'll tell you that got on big clones, right, I
got big clones on.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
May Well, TJ.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Obviously it was a competitive and at the end three
relling Super Bowl, and you had some harsh words in
your tweet for the San Francisco forty nine Ers coaching staff.
So I'm gonna read it and then I want you
to respond. This is your tweet. I'm sorry. Shannahan, Kyle Shanahan,
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and Steve Wooks, the defensive coordinator called a terrible game,
got away from the run early in the second half
and it cost them. Wilks was just as bad, if
not worse. So tell us what you're referring to. And
you obviously think, do you feel like San Francisco gave
this away more than Kansas City took it?
Speaker 7 (21:37):
One thousand nine Ers gave a Super Bowl away? Well,
then let's kind of go through the game.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Yeah, let's do it, because I'm with you. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Hey, So Patrick Mahons saws that interception right right out
in the third quarter. It's about the forty nine yard line,
if I'm not mistaken, their midfield.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
They had it at Kansas City's forty four.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Okay, the forty nine Ers had had tremendous success running
the ball. Now they weren't gashing them, but they're getting three,
four to five yards of pop.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Why wouldn't you run it?
Speaker 7 (22:10):
They passed, pass, pass, and then a punt. If you
run the ball at worst, you're getting a Steeld goal
out of it. At worst shirt. Now Moody has to
make it the low extra point. It looked like he
was going to miss it anyway. But run the ball.
Why what are you doing? Run the ball? And he
comes out and he throws the ball. They lose yards
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and they have to punt, and it's like, what is
going on here? He didn't get back to the run
till midway through the fourth quarter. I mean they literally
were just coming out just throwing.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
The ball every down.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
And this is the third time, the third time Kyle
Shanahan as an offensive coordinator or head coach had a
double digit lead in the Super Bowl lost it.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And it's only happened seventeen seven times. And he's done
the three history of the league, and he's done it three.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
And here here's the other to let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
In the fourth quarter before the uh game tying drive,
you know for the field goal, he third and four,
they passed the ball to TJ. Why not run the ball?
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Right?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (23:15):
It right?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And and then you got then you might go for it, yeah,
and then you might go for it, depending on what
it is. You get the first down, the game's over
like like like, it didn't make any sense to throw
the ball there. Also, you want to leave Patrick Mahomes
as littlest amount of time as possible. And then they
had almost two minutes plus two timeouts and he didn't
even Andy, we didn't even have to burn us timeout.
(23:38):
I didn't even understand that. And you're right, he's done
this before, and I can't understand how he doesn't close
out games. You remember the Falcons game with Julio Jones
first and tended to twenty two and they throw the ball,
a sack.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
And a holding, run the ball, run the ball.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Now they tj They.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Did run third one times and they only you're averaging
three and a half yards of carry.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
And that's fine though, because if you think about the
negative yard the yardist plays what goes against the average.
But for the most part, they were effective running the ball.
They ran it thirty one times. They probably should have
run it thirty nine times. They probably should have run
it thirty nine times because that was the key to
the victory. This Kansas City defense is good, very very good,
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and so when you have them on the ropes, you
have to take advantage of it and then converse. Let's
go to the defense side the ball. Let's go to
the last drive. You remember when Valde Scatley catches that
hitch and then he loses a bunch of yards and
it makes you second fifteen. Yep, Steve Wilkes comes out
and a cover zero. He's not disguising it. Everybody's off
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eleven yards and the rest of the guy, what are
you doing?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I agree some of the Yeah, when you were watching
that TJ, what'd you think?
Speaker 7 (24:55):
I know he's really I swear, I promise you. I said,
everybody's gonna drop out. They're they're gonna drop out. He
literally covers zero, Like what are you doing? They catch
it as eight yards. So now second and fifteen turns
into third and six and guess what he did it again?
Cover zero again. Why do you think later down on
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that drive, you remember when Shanahan called a timeout.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Was the same exact look and it was cover zero.
He was if you're going to do it, at least
disguise it. He going to commit a crime without a
mask on, like you telling it you're gonna what are
you doing?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
No, I agree because it I mean, in the first half,
obviously their defense was dominant, they were getting to mahomes,
and in the second half it was largely different. And
it looked like in Kansas City made the adjustments and
the Niners didn't.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
That's exactly what it is. It's called adjustments by coaching.
The coaches of the Chiefs made adjustments. And Steve Wilks's
night you had two weeks from here. You watch film
for two weeks and that show cover zero Blitz. You
see when Fags was blitzing, you ain't nowhere was. He
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made the quarterback have to think. And it's just I
felt like forty nine ers literally gave that game away
when when the Chiefs defense needs a big play, a
big stop. We all know if you watch football, Fags
is going to blitch you. He's gonna blitch you. But
you go empty run of fake jet sweet to McCaffrey. Yes,
(26:33):
Jawan Jimmis was open, but nobody block. Nobody said, well,
we're not gonna bock the best player on the Chiefs,
who was christ Jones. Why get in that formation where
it's you're on the spread and nobody in the backfield
like why and that you know he's gonna bring pressure,
that this is what he does.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
What do you think of What did you think of
Shanahan's decision to take the ball in overtime?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
A lot of people being critical of that.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
He said, that's what his analytics department said. I don't
believe that. I believe he just didn't understand the rules.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
And but some players would come out and said that
they didn't know.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
I mean, I don't believe that. All you got to
do is a reason.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
So you think he thought if they get a touchdown,
they win it.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Nobody, listen, man, listen, who in their right mind would
do that? Who's going to take the ball first? Not
only you? You always want to play defense because you
get an extra down and you know exactly what you need.
Why would you take the ball that makes zero stick?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And it makes sense if it's sudden death, right, did
not want the ball first?
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Right?
Speaker 7 (27:38):
If it's sudden, that's that's why he and that's why
he took the ball because he thought it was sudden.
That you think he's gonna get up on that plotium
and say, oh, I didn't realize it was sudden. Death. No,
he's not gonna say that. He's going to put it
on the analytics department, and then he's going to say
to himself, oh wow, that's probably a rule I should
have been aware of.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Let me ask you go ahead, I'm sorry, But he's.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Not going to say that public because he knows the
following days exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
How about brock Party, where were you on? His performance
started off pretty good? Uh, a lull and then at
the end maybe play better. But overall, what what was
your overall grade for him? And can you win a
Super Bowl with him?
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Rob I may be in a minority with this. I
like brock Party. I like him, I'm accurate with he
throws the ball on time. And if he wasn't mister irrelevant,
nobody would talk about all the bad plays that he makes.
Everybody makes bad.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
But some people are out on him now after the
Super Bowl. So how'bout even improved the stock into Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (28:42):
I've heard a lot of people, I've heard a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Of to be out in just I mean, he didn't
do he played.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
No starter the team right right first? For your starter,
because when a quarterback doesn't have weapons, what is the
first thing that the media says he needs help, he
needs weapons. He's on a team with weapons, and he
led him to the super Bowl because if he didn't
have weapons, that would be the first thing everybody would trade.
I like Brock Party. I think Brock Party is a
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good quarterback. I think people are on his head for
no reason. And so his first year as a starter
to lead a team to the super Bowl, he did
a hell of a job.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I'm with you on Party. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I think, Look, obviously Tom Brady's to go with his
accomplishments and stuff, but I think TJ the best quarterback
I've ever seen, and I think the best quarterback any
of us have ever seen is Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Where are you on all that?
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Patrick Mahomes from an ites is the best quarterback that
I've seen play the position. He just always feels like
and it always seems like ten seconds on o'clock they're
gonna win. Two minutes, oh for sure, they're gonna win.
(30:00):
He's done it with thirteen seconds, So anything more than that,
you have to feel like he's going to get it done. Now,
does he need more accomplishes, more, acculate more than super Bowl?
He does, But he does not in my it for me,
he does not have to reach seven. If he gets six,
(30:23):
he's by far the greats, any more than I don't
know if we'll ever see this again.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
He's just that good.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
He's so calm under pressure. Okay, I need to run
for this first time.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Okay, so let me ask you this question. Okay, one, three.
So say he doesn't win any more Super Bowls. He
wins three, but he had a run three out of five.
Where would you put him?
Speaker 7 (30:45):
It's hard to put him over Brady, just because Brady
had two runs where it looked like he was the
best quarterback. Then oh, they say I'm done. Now I'm
the best quarterback again. I mean it was almost like
Kobe with eight in the twenty four. You know, it's
just two separate careers, and both of those careers are
Hall of Fame careers. He has careers all in one.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I think Mahmes has to win more to be the goat.
But I'm just talking about, like you said, I test
what I.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
Mame gets to six. If he gets to six, it's
no question, no question.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Is he's six and one or six and five. I
mean you say, no question.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Does the losses matter at all the losses.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, but no, I'm asking you.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
I'm asking you.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You say, if he gets if he gets to six,
but he's six and five, so he went to eleven
super Bowls. I'm just our ten like Brady and he's
five and five. You couldn't say he's the goat.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
The way he performs rop. I can't even imagine him
losing fight.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
No, of course not. But I'm just giving you what he.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Gets there, and that is the case. No, he isn't
the goat. No, okay, no, I can't. I can't imagine
him doing that because if it was based off titles,
then everybody would say Bill Russ was the greatest basketball
fire off.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's not just titles. We've talked about this before. Can
we talk about it with Michael Jordan? Now people always
just use that, but he was a great player all
around and did all kinds of the stuff today.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
My own is special. And just think about this. He
did this without a bonafide go to receiver. She Wright
as a rookie was his go to. Yep, do you
understand they're going to be better next year? If they
better keep ninety five? Let them lose ninety five? Watch
out his crashing.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Bur That's gonna be interesting if they.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Will be better on offense because they're going to get
a dynamic receiver, trusting, but they're going to go get
somebody that can really get down the field to stress
this defense. He'll be better on offense. Don't be better
on offense. That's scary, all right, TJ.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
We got to run, man, Thank you, brother. We appreciate
the knowledge.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Man, I appreciate you, guys. Man keep killing it man.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Thanks all right, man, thank you. All right. Moro couple
coming your way, Brock Party. We will get into it.
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Speaker 6 (33:29):
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Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'm taking Denver plus one and a half at Milwaukee.
That's the best bet uh, Dallas minus eleven and a
half hosting the Washington Generals. I mean the wizard, Sorry
about that, and I'm gonna take Utah Chris plus one
and a half.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
They're at home hosting the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
What about Steph making that big shot? Huh, I'm gonna yeah,
that was a great shot. You know, somebody should have
yelled postseason, but they didn't. Then he made it.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
It's all good, great shot.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
All right, and we go again until we're going Utah
plus one and a half at home, Chris a home
underdog hosting Golden State Dallas minus eleven and a half
against Washington. I mean why not? I mean went by fifteen.
Now they got Denver plus one and a half on
the road taking on Milwaukee. And remember, I'm not telling
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bet on.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
All right, Rob, We mentioned brock Purty with TJ. Houschman
Zetta brock Purty twenty three for thirty eight, two hundred
and fifty five yards, one touchdown, no picks, eighty nine
point three passer rating.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I thought he played well.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
And you know, I've been a guy that's believed in
him through this season.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
But I thought, like I liked what I saw.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
He showed me that, you know, he can be their
guy going forward, and I think they can win a
super Bowl with him.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
He played better against that defense, which is phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
So it's arguably the best defense in the league, either.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
That or Baltimore. Baltimore had more takeaways.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
But outside of that, I mean, the Chiefs defense is
right there, and we saw what they did to the Ravens.
But Brock Purdy's numbers against this Chiefs defense were better
than Lamar Jackson's and better than Tua's when they faced
this chief defense in the playoffs. His pass the numbers
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were better than Josh Allen. But Josh Allen also ran
for two touchdowns, so I'll give Josh Allen the nod
over him. But you know, that defense, they battle a
lot of balls. He didn't really have an issue with that.
They blitzed a lot. He handled the pressure well. He
was fifty percent pressure the second half, fifty percent of
his dropbacks, and he did fine.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I thought he played well.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, I mean I saw a lot of stuff from
fans and people just saying, oh man, it ain't just
the coach it's a quarterback or and I didn't think
he played that poorly, but there were lulls and I
really questioned Shanahan in throwing the ball that much, Chris,
and I think that's where people have put it on
party because they weren't successful, you know, during that those stretches,
(36:24):
they weren't successful with passing the ball, and they questioned,
why would you do that and not throw the ball,
I mean, not run the ball With the offensive player
of the year, it just seemed like, and I get it,
he wasn't getting nine yards.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
To carry two carries, right, But at the.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Time though, during the stretch where the game went sideways, Chris,
they weren't running the ball. I hear you.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It wasn't like he had two hundred yards on the ground,
but as.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Far twenty two carries eighty yards, that's three point six
yards of carry.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, but look at I don't know how many he
had in the second half of what the number was,
but it didn't seem like there was a stretch where
it look like they threw the ball eight or nine
times in a row.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
But they did throw it eight out I think eight
out of nine.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Okay, And I think that's where people were looking at
it and they weren't successful.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
So it goes back to Brock Party.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah, I mean he look, Mahomes wasn't moving the ball
anymore than Party was as a track record through the end.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
No, Yeah, he's obviously better than Brock Party.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I'm just saying I don't put all of that those
stagnant possessions on Party. He didn't make any of the
mistakes that could have cost them the game.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
In fact, Rob, that's a big part of it too.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I mean, one there was a random that punt fumble
right where the guy fumbled the play. It actually came
down and hit one of the Niners blockers on the foot.
That's just a random play that it's nobody's fault. Now
where I Will fought I think it was Ray Ray McLeod.
(37:58):
Where I Will fought the punt return to Rob is
he he tried to pick up the ball instead of
just diving on it. But Rob that gave the Chiefs
the ball at the sixteen yard line and that was
Mahos's first touchdown, So that you know what I mean, Like,
there were some breaks that just hurt the Niners that they.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
That's a huge.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
It just demoralized the defense which had stopped him, and
then you set them up there with an easy touchdown, like, seriously,
no doubt.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
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Speaker 3 (01:18):
What's up brother?
Speaker 6 (01:19):
What's happened to mister Christmashawan?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
I am fantastic man, I am doing well?
Speaker 6 (01:26):
You I am?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I am good as well. It's a Monday. It's the
day after football season.
Speaker 6 (01:34):
Is over. The fantastic finish tour of the Super Bowl game.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
You remember we were growing up, we saw a lot
of bad Super Bowl games. I mean people really don't know,
like the games that we've seen, Chris, when they used
to be over in the first quarter or second quarter.
And now to get some of these good games, you
know what I mean where you're on the edge of
your seat and for.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
There is nothing worse rob than a in the Super Bowl.
Oh yeah, because you know, you get excited to watch it.
You get you might have people over. I mean, if
you're having people over to watch the game, it's one
thing if you just like my wife, she's part of
the party when we had a party last night, but
she don't care about the game, so she don't care
(02:17):
what the game is like.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
But if you the.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Dudes and women, they might want to wind me into
watch the game.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But we wanted to watch the game.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
The last one I can think of like that ride
with Seattle Denver with Peyton Manny and I mean that
thing was over in ten minutes.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
Over.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It was terrible.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
And last night, I mean it wasn't a good game.
It was a good game.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
It was you know, there was some spots where it
wasn't that great during the game, But then, Chris, it's
always about the finish, you know what I mean, and
where you are, and it was a suitable for frame
and that's all we can say.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Yeah, I said early on when it was kind of
a defensive struggle, it was it reminds did me rob
of one of those Knicks Miami Heat game playoff game.
It wasn't really great artistically, but it was close, so
that makes it, you know what I mean. But when
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the in comes around, you're on the edge of your
seat because you don't know who's gonna win. Those Knicks
Heat games I cover. It would be it would ineviably,
inevitably be seventy seven, seventy four with two minutes left
to play.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
So that makes it exciting because it's like, well, who's
gonna win?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
God knows. I covered plenty of those, so I was
there too.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
But yeah, man, we're gonna talk about a lot of
stuff after Homes with his signature moment there and Shanahan
with his signature moment again, Chris, We'll talk about him
repeating itself like it's unbelievable. We'll get into all of
that and more so absolutely so.
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All right, Rob, let's get into it. The final score
of Chiefs twenty five Niners twenty two in overtime, only
the second Super Bowl ever to go into overtime, which
is very interesting.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It is when you think about it, that's fifty eight
super Bowls is a lot.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
You would have thought by now have been way more
than that, just two.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
So let me ask you that first of all, because
this will determine kind of the direction we go in.
The Chiefs have now won three Super Bowls in five years.
Do you consider them a dynasty?
Speaker 6 (04:47):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, So then explain that, because I.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Was gonna if you had said yes, I was gonna say,
is it the greatest dynasty? Obviously you don't think sothing.
You don't even think it's a dynasty. So go ahead
and tell why you don't think it's for me.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
For dynasty, you gotta win three in a row or
three out of four, that's just well.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know, Rob, in the NFL, nobody's won three in
a row. Yeah, but I'm just not in the super Bowl.
I said three in a row or three out of four,
not three out of five. I've got two dynasties in
the NFL Super Bowl era history.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, I mean, that's that's what I look at the dynasty.
Like the Cowboys to me, were the last dynasty. They
won three out of four. The Patriots and the Patriots, but.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Those are the only two. But first Patriots, like.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
You know they won three eighty yeah, right, but that's it.
Those are only two we're considered. To me, I mean
I look at it when you don't.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Think you can move it, change it for sport depending
on the nature of you know, because the sports don't
win the same.
Speaker 6 (05:46):
I don't look at it that way.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Same thing like when we talk about baseball, to me, right,
the Yankees won three out of four, four to five?
Speaker 6 (05:55):
What did they win three in a row? Four to five?
The last are you talking about the Derek Jeter Yankees?
Speaker 7 (06:02):
Right?
Speaker 6 (06:03):
They won in ninety eight, right, ninety eight, ninety nine? No,
did they win?
Speaker 1 (06:08):
No, they won ninety seven, I'm sorry, ninety seven, Christy,
ninety six, ninety eight, ninety nine, and two thousand that
you know, like like, to me, that's a dynasty where
you win, you know, in a short period of time.
That's why it was three straight and four out of five.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Right.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
To me, that's a dynasty. But that's just my definition.
You know, you look at it and everybody has their own.
I just like the Spurs when we talk about them
all the time and they won what five championships in
twenty years or whatever it was. I just don't think
that's a real dynasty. It means you're a good you know,
you have a good franchise, Chris, and a winning franchise. No, no, no,
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but I mean the winning franchise. But a dynasty is
because because the Spurs never even won back to back, right,
and I think that's a.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Big Well we did.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
You and I different definition of dynasties, and I do
think the sports it can vary slightly with the sports.
One thing I really take into account with dynasty is
the participants. I consider the Spurs of dynasty because Tim
Duncan was the hub.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Of all five of those championships.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Now it was over twenty years, but as long as
he was there, they were going to be right there.
They would win fifty games every year and have a
chance to win it. The Brady But let's stick to football.
I think the greatest dynasty, just like I consider the
spurs of dynasty in basketball. I consider the Patriots under
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Brady because the participants mainly, or the main two participants
in this case.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Brady and Belichick stayed.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
A lot of other people changed, but it was Brady
and Belichick the two main guys. And I consider that
whole run one dynasty, so six and twenty years.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
But most people don't.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Most people want to, even those that consider the dynasty,
they want to split it in the two.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Because you know what I mean, Christy's long at it.
It's a long time to say they're a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Right, I get it, But it's I think because it
was the same participants.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Just like the Niners in the eighties.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
I think that was a dynasty, but they went years
without winning it, you know, multiple years without winning it.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
But it was four in nine years.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
So I consider rob definitely this chiefs now a dynasty
winning three and five years. I think it's still you know,
they're gonna continue to you know, we'll see what they
do going forward. But I don't think the dynasty is ending.
But I think they are definitely a dynasty. I think
if you split the Patriots in the two, which again
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most people do, so I'll go with that for now.
I think Rob the greatest dynasty in the history of
the NFL, or at least the Super Bowl era, was
the Pittsburgh Steelers of the seventies.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
They won four in six years.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Now, they wouldn't qualify by your standards because they didn't
win three and five, but they won four and six
two times, went back to back.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
That to me is the best two years, missing the.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Missing the super Bowl, not the playoffs. No, no, no, But
I'm just saying in the super Bowl. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
They went one year, they went to the conference championship, lost,
the next year, they went to the divisional round and lost.
Then they went back and won the next two and
again the players were the same essentially, and so I
think that's the best dynasty.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
I do think Rob. If the Patriots or I'm sorry,
if the Chiefs win next year, and I think they
would become the greatest NFL dynasty because that would be
four in six years, just like the Page or the Steelers.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
But if they would have the first three.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Peat in the super Bowl era, and they would have
gone to five Super Bowls in the six year span,
whereas the Steelers had only gone to four and obviously
didn't three peat. Now, I keep saying super Bowl era
because Green Bay did win three straight twice, you know,
once when it was like in the twenties or thirties,
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when it was the just the end, you know, it
wasn't even the Super Bowl. And then they they won
the last They won two super the first two Super
Bowls and won the first, you know, the last NFL
championship before.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
The Super Bowl was created.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
That's what we were.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
They had won three in a row.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Talking about in the old days where the Packers, the Canadians,
the Celtics and Yankees won all the time.
Speaker 6 (10:52):
It was during that era.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
So yeah, so I think these Steelers are the greatest
dynasty ever, But I think the Chiefs are right there chasing.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I'd go second. If you divide, I would only call
them a dynasty. If they win next year, that would
be three in a row, and to me, that would
would I would say they were a dynasty. I still
just don't as as much. And I said to by.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Your account, they could lose next year and then win
it the next year and that would be a dynasty.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Yeah, then they would win three out of four.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And here here's why, I'll say, because I even look
at the San Franciscisco Giants baseball team, right, they didn't
have a dynasty. What they win three championships in six years,
in six years, and they never won back to back.
It was really a weird and Buster Posey was a
big part of it because a lot of the same players,
but they never were able to put it back to back.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
And that's why I think people don't look at that
Giants team as a dynasty when they talk about baseball dynasties,
despite three championships in six years.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, I I you on that six.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think that would be a dynasty. Yeah, I think
that would be a dynasty.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
I think It's also feel like when I talk of
obviously Showtime Lakers was a dynasty, but I think.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
The Birds Celtics were right there too.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I mean that was a team that won three and
seven years, three and six years, and you know they
were right there every year.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And obviously won their share.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
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Speaker 3 (12:37):
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Speaker 4 (12:38):
First of all, is this Chiefs run where now they've
won three Super Bowls in five years? Is it a dynasty?
Number one? And secondly, if so, is it the greatest
NFL dynasty in the Super Bowl Era? Your thoughts?
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eight seven seven ninety nine. On Fox, you're turned away
in on the Kansas City Chiefs. Is this a dynasty
and if so, where does it rank all time in
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the Super Bowl era?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
All right, let's go to I can't see Doug in
Kansas City. We'll start there.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Doug?
Speaker 9 (14:25):
Hello, gentlemen, happy New Year? Because I haven't spoken to
you a little bit.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
How are you?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
How are you good?
Speaker 9 (14:32):
The Chiefs have got to be the dynasty. I'm not
at the moment, no, but going forward, their salary cap,
who are they paying outside of Patrick Mahomes and Joe Towey.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And they might lose Chris Jones to get paid.
Speaker 9 (14:46):
Yeah, he was only getting five million this year.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
So he was getting like twenty or nineteen.
Speaker 9 (14:54):
I think the cap that was five point four. But
I think they had money to I think they had
money to work with to get other pieces in where
they can keep going. They've focused their money around the quarterback,
which is the most important. Patrick Mahomes has been the
one that's gotten them where they need to be and
gotten them to the promise life.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
What's your definition of dynasty? That's where we are and
where are you?
Speaker 9 (15:18):
In my mind, dynasty is the Spurs, So they.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
That's a dynasty to you.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
I would say the Patriots and the Spurs are in
my life. I'm thirty seven. Is the Spurs and the
Patriots or dynasties in my life?
Speaker 4 (15:36):
So this Chiefs team winning three of the last five
Super Bowls is not a dynasty.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I know.
Speaker 9 (15:44):
I honestly I think that. I can't wait to hear
your answers.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
He doesn't think it's a dynasty, all right.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I think it's a dynasty.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Thanks though, So he wouldn't consider I think he got
He's just along long period.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
He probably wouldn't consider the Cowboys of dynasty. He went
three out of four.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, come on, that's a dynasty. Jerome and Charleston.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jerome?
Speaker 5 (16:12):
This is the modern day version of what a dynasty
would look like from now on, with free agency and
the money and players moving from team to team every
year and the draft and then shuffling and trying to
manage the salary camp. This is as close to Dynastie well.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Hold on, hold hold up, Jerome, we didn't have more
than this in the past.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
The dynasty is don't come around.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
The Steelers, when no one was moving in the seventies,
won four out of six. This is as close as
get no, No, You've only had two times in the
Super Bowl era where it was better, if you want
to say better, when the when the Patriots won three
out of four and the Cowboys won three out of four.
So you're saying like, even when teams were stagnant and
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your players remained, you didn't see bat than this.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
You doesn't have pre indencry.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I get all that.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
But my point is you're acting like, in this era
of free agency, you can't win like you used to,
when actually you can and it's.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Been proven, no, you can't.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
When you can't totally dominate like that now because like who,
like hold on, like who who totally king. Look, there's
a very.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Jerome Jerome who dominated in the past in a way
that the Chiefs can't dominate.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
The Cowboys, the Steelers, the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
One, four and six the three out of four to me.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
That is not going to let that happen anymore. Okay,
stop you one other thing I gotta mention. Rob says
he would take Eli Manning over Mahomes. You shine like
a New York Homer, Rob.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Christ Chris, you need to stay no EASi family ain't
taking Eli. Yes he is in the Super Bowl. And
let me tell you something. I grew up in Queens.
I was never a.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Giants fan, So stop stop.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Just because I'm from New York doesn't It's just a
bad take, Jerome.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It ain't about home.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
It ain't no, I ain't no Homer about no Giants stopping.
It's a good take. For three and a half quarters.
It was a great take.
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Dion in Texas, you're on the Yond Couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (18:25):
Dion?
Speaker 10 (18:26):
Hey, it's going on Fellas and joined the show as usual.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Look, thank you.
Speaker 10 (18:30):
This is a dynasty, whether it's the past the present,
the future. It's a dynasty. And I got them ranked
about third because you got the Pittsburgh Steelers and the
Cowboys winning three and four years. That's pretty impressive. Three
and five years is amazing. If they win it next year,
that's four and six years. I'll put them as the
greatest of all time in my opinions, with the greatest
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quarterbacks growing to.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Be of all time.
Speaker 10 (18:54):
Rob said, this guy plateaued, are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Yeah, it is what plateauing is. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
During the year when they were five and five their
last ten, yes, he did plateau During the regular season,
he won the same quarterback and he did, he did.
He Wait a minute, but but I'm giving you and
even through four quarters, five quarters in the postseason, they
were shut down the second half against Baltimore and they
at three points at halftime at the super Bowl.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
That's what I'm talking about. That's not those are Mahomes
likes numbers. They're not. That's all I'm saying at all.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
I'm he has started Super Bowl struggling.
Speaker 6 (19:34):
No, but I'm talking about he.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
And he usually comes back and Rob.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
There are seven times in the history of the Super
Bowl where teams have rallied from a double digit deficit.
He's done it, three of them. Like the dude is
a comeback king Uh in the Super Bowls. All right,
it is the Oka. We got TJ.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
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Speaker 4 (20:07):
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Speaker 3 (20:12):
It's the odd couple. Chris and Rob.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Our next guest, former Pro Bowl wide receiver friend of
the show now co hosts of Up on Game. Right
here on Fox Sports Radio, we bring in the man, TJ.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Houschmann's outa TJ. What's up? Brought up?
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Man?
Speaker 6 (20:30):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Man?
Speaker 10 (20:33):
Rib Chris?
Speaker 7 (20:34):
What's up? Baby?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I got to see TJ. Chris Uh in Las Vegas.
He was there doing this thing and he looks like
he could still play. Doesn't have an ounce of fat
on his body.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
He looks great. Its great.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
Hey be deceiving.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
I'll tell you that got on big clones, right, I
got big clones on.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
May Well, TJ.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Obviously it was a competitive and at the end three
relling Super Bowl, and you had some harsh words in
your tweet for the San Francisco forty nine Ers coaching staff.
So I'm gonna read it and then I want you
to respond. This is your tweet. I'm sorry. Shannahan, Kyle Shanahan,
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and Steve Wooks, the defensive coordinator called a terrible game,
got away from the run early in the second half
and it cost them. Wilks was just as bad, if
not worse. So tell us what you're referring to. And
you obviously think, do you feel like San Francisco gave
this away more than Kansas City took it?
Speaker 7 (21:37):
One thousand nine Ers gave a Super Bowl away? Well,
then let's kind of go through the game.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Yeah, let's do it, because I'm with you. It was ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Hey, So Patrick Mahons saws that interception right right out
in the third quarter. It's about the forty nine yard line,
if I'm not mistaken, their midfield.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
They had it at Kansas City's forty four.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
Okay, the forty nine Ers had had tremendous success running
the ball. Now they weren't gashing them, but they're getting three,
four to five yards of pop.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
Why wouldn't you run it?
Speaker 7 (22:10):
They passed, pass, pass, and then a punt. If you
run the ball at worst, you're getting a Steeld goal
out of it. At worst shirt. Now Moody has to
make it the low extra point. It looked like he
was going to miss it anyway. But run the ball.
Why what are you doing? Run the ball? And he
comes out and he throws the ball. They lose yards
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and they have to punt, and it's like, what is
going on here? He didn't get back to the run
till midway through the fourth quarter. I mean they literally
were just coming out just throwing.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
The ball every down.
Speaker 7 (22:43):
And this is the third time, the third time Kyle
Shanahan as an offensive coordinator or head coach had a
double digit lead in the Super Bowl lost it.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
And it's only happened seventeen seven times. And he's done
the three history of the league, and he's done it three.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
And here here's the other to let me ask you.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
In the fourth quarter before the uh game tying drive,
you know for the field goal, he third and four,
they passed the ball to TJ. Why not run the ball?
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Right?
Speaker 7 (23:14):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (23:15):
It right?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And and then you got then you might go for it, yeah,
and then you might go for it, depending on what
it is. You get the first down, the game's over
like like like, it didn't make any sense to throw
the ball there. Also, you want to leave Patrick Mahomes
as littlest amount of time as possible. And then they
had almost two minutes plus two timeouts and he didn't
even Andy, we didn't even have to burn us timeout.
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I didn't even understand that. And you're right, he's done
this before, and I can't understand how he doesn't close
out games. You remember the Falcons game with Julio Jones
first and tended to twenty two and they throw the ball,
a sack.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
And a holding, run the ball, run the ball.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
Now they tj They.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Did run third one times and they only you're averaging
three and a half yards of carry.
Speaker 7 (24:03):
And that's fine though, because if you think about the
negative yard the yardist plays what goes against the average.
But for the most part, they were effective running the ball.
They ran it thirty one times. They probably should have
run it thirty nine times. They probably should have run
it thirty nine times because that was the key to
the victory. This Kansas City defense is good, very very good,
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and so when you have them on the ropes, you
have to take advantage of it and then converse. Let's
go to the defense side the ball. Let's go to
the last drive. You remember when Valde Scatley catches that
hitch and then he loses a bunch of yards and
it makes you second fifteen. Yep, Steve Wilkes comes out
and a cover zero. He's not disguising it. Everybody's off
(24:45):
eleven yards and the rest of the guy, what are
you doing?
Speaker 1 (24:49):
I agree some of the Yeah, when you were watching
that TJ, what'd you think?
Speaker 7 (24:55):
I know he's really I swear, I promise you. I said,
everybody's gonna drop out. They're they're gonna drop out. He
literally covers zero, Like what are you doing? They catch
it as eight yards. So now second and fifteen turns
into third and six and guess what he did it again?
Cover zero again. Why do you think later down on
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that drive, you remember when Shanahan called a timeout.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yeah, yeah, it.
Speaker 7 (25:20):
Was the same exact look and it was cover zero.
He was if you're going to do it, at least
disguise it. He going to commit a crime without a
mask on, like you telling it you're gonna what are
you doing?
Speaker 4 (25:34):
No, I agree because it I mean, in the first half,
obviously their defense was dominant, they were getting to mahomes,
and in the second half it was largely different. And
it looked like in Kansas City made the adjustments and
the Niners didn't.
Speaker 7 (25:50):
That's exactly what it is. It's called adjustments by coaching.
The coaches of the Chiefs made adjustments. And Steve Wilks's
night you had two weeks from here. You watch film
for two weeks and that show cover zero Blitz. You
see when Fags was blitzing, you ain't nowhere was. He
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made the quarterback have to think. And it's just I
felt like forty nine ers literally gave that game away
when when the Chiefs defense needs a big play, a
big stop. We all know if you watch football, Fags
is going to blitch you. He's gonna blitch you. But
you go empty run of fake jet sweet to McCaffrey. Yes,
(26:33):
Jawan Jimmis was open, but nobody block. Nobody said, well,
we're not gonna bock the best player on the Chiefs,
who was christ Jones. Why get in that formation where
it's you're on the spread and nobody in the backfield
like why and that you know he's gonna bring pressure,
that this is what he does.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
What do you think of What did you think of
Shanahan's decision to take the ball in overtime?
Speaker 3 (26:57):
A lot of people being critical of that.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
He said, that's what his analytics department said. I don't
believe that. I believe he just didn't understand the rules.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
And but some players would come out and said that
they didn't know.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
I mean, I don't believe that. All you got to
do is a reason.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
So you think he thought if they get a touchdown,
they win it.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Nobody, listen, man, listen, who in their right mind would
do that? Who's going to take the ball first? Not
only you? You always want to play defense because you
get an extra down and you know exactly what you need.
Why would you take the ball that makes zero stick?
Speaker 1 (27:33):
And it makes sense if it's sudden death, right, did
not want the ball first?
Speaker 6 (27:38):
Right?
Speaker 7 (27:38):
If it's sudden, that's that's why he and that's why
he took the ball because he thought it was sudden.
That you think he's gonna get up on that plotium
and say, oh, I didn't realize it was sudden. Death. No,
he's not gonna say that. He's going to put it
on the analytics department, and then he's going to say
to himself, oh wow, that's probably a rule I should
have been aware of.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
Let me ask you go ahead, I'm sorry, But he's.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
Not going to say that public because he knows the
following days exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
How about brock Party, where were you on? His performance
started off pretty good? Uh, a lull and then at
the end maybe play better. But overall, what what was
your overall grade for him? And can you win a
Super Bowl with him?
Speaker 7 (28:21):
Rob I may be in a minority with this. I
like brock Party. I like him, I'm accurate with he
throws the ball on time. And if he wasn't mister irrelevant,
nobody would talk about all the bad plays that he makes.
Everybody makes bad.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
But some people are out on him now after the
Super Bowl. So how'bout even improved the stock into Super Bowl?
Speaker 6 (28:42):
I've heard a lot of people, I've heard a lot.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Of to be out in just I mean, he didn't
do he played.
Speaker 7 (28:48):
No starter the team right right first? For your starter,
because when a quarterback doesn't have weapons, what is the
first thing that the media says he needs help, he
needs weapons. He's on a team with weapons, and he
led him to the super Bowl because if he didn't
have weapons, that would be the first thing everybody would trade.
I like Brock Party. I think Brock Party is a
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good quarterback. I think people are on his head for
no reason. And so his first year as a starter
to lead a team to the super Bowl, he did
a hell of a job.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
I'm with you on Party. Let me ask you this.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
I think, Look, obviously Tom Brady's to go with his
accomplishments and stuff, but I think TJ the best quarterback
I've ever seen, and I think the best quarterback any
of us have ever seen is Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Where are you on all that?
Speaker 7 (29:39):
Patrick Mahomes from an ites is the best quarterback that
I've seen play the position. He just always feels like
and it always seems like ten seconds on o'clock they're
gonna win. Two minutes, oh for sure, they're gonna win.
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He's done it with thirteen seconds, So anything more than that,
you have to feel like he's going to get it done. Now,
does he need more accomplishes, more, acculate more than super Bowl?
He does, But he does not in my it for me,
he does not have to reach seven. If he gets six,
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he's by far the greats, any more than I don't
know if we'll ever see this again.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
He's just that good.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
He's so calm under pressure. Okay, I need to run
for this first time.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Okay, so let me ask you this question. Okay, one, three.
So say he doesn't win any more Super Bowls. He
wins three, but he had a run three out of five.
Where would you put him?
Speaker 7 (30:45):
It's hard to put him over Brady, just because Brady
had two runs where it looked like he was the
best quarterback. Then oh, they say I'm done. Now I'm
the best quarterback again. I mean it was almost like
Kobe with eight in the twenty four. You know, it's
just two separate careers, and both of those careers are
Hall of Fame careers. He has careers all in one.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I think Mahmes has to win more to be the goat.
But I'm just talking about, like you said, I test
what I.
Speaker 7 (31:15):
Mame gets to six. If he gets to six, it's
no question, no question.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Is he's six and one or six and five. I
mean you say, no question.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Does the losses matter at all the losses.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, but no, I'm asking you.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
I'm asking you.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
You say, if he gets if he gets to six,
but he's six and five, so he went to eleven
super Bowls. I'm just our ten like Brady and he's
five and five. You couldn't say he's the goat.
Speaker 7 (31:45):
The way he performs rop. I can't even imagine him
losing fight.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
No, of course not. But I'm just giving you what he.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Gets there, and that is the case. No, he isn't
the goat. No, okay, no, I can't. I can't imagine
him doing that because if it was based off titles,
then everybody would say Bill Russ was the greatest basketball
fire off.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
It's not just titles. We've talked about this before. Can
we talk about it with Michael Jordan? Now people always
just use that, but he was a great player all
around and did all kinds of the stuff today.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
My own is special. And just think about this. He
did this without a bonafide go to receiver. She Wright
as a rookie was his go to. Yep, do you
understand they're going to be better next year? If they
better keep ninety five? Let them lose ninety five? Watch
out his crashing.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Bur That's gonna be interesting if they.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Will be better on offense because they're going to get
a dynamic receiver, trusting, but they're going to go get
somebody that can really get down the field to stress
this defense. He'll be better on offense. Don't be better
on offense. That's scary, all right, TJ.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
We got to run, man, Thank you, brother. We appreciate
the knowledge.
Speaker 7 (32:46):
Man, I appreciate you, guys. Man keep killing it man.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Thanks all right, man, thank you. All right. Moro couple
coming your way, Brock Party. We will get into it.
That's next. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Chris Brussa then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
App tuned into The A Couple Chris a Rob live
from the tire Rag dot Com studios.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
And it's time y'all for Shekel City.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Welcome to Shekel City, the home base for Rob Parker's
day Dicks against the Scrap.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
Yes, sir, here we go a little Shekel City. Best
bet tonight.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I'm taking Denver plus one and a half at Milwaukee.
That's the best bet uh, Dallas minus eleven and a
half hosting the Washington Generals. I mean the wizard, Sorry
about that, and I'm gonna take Utah Chris plus one
and a half.
Speaker 6 (33:52):
They're at home hosting the Golden State Warriors.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
What about Steph making that big shot? Huh, I'm gonna yeah,
that was a great shot. You know, somebody should have
yelled postseason, but they didn't. Then he made it.
Speaker 6 (34:05):
It's all good, great shot.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
All right, and we go again until we're going Utah
plus one and a half at home, Chris a home
underdog hosting Golden State Dallas minus eleven and a half
against Washington. I mean why not? I mean went by fifteen.
Now they got Denver plus one and a half on
the road taking on Milwaukee. And remember, I'm not telling
you who to bet on, I'm telling you who I
(34:29):
bet on.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
All right, Rob, We mentioned brock Purty with TJ. Houschman
Zetta brock Purty twenty three for thirty eight, two hundred
and fifty five yards, one touchdown, no picks, eighty nine
point three passer rating.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
I thought he played well.
Speaker 4 (34:47):
And you know, I've been a guy that's believed in
him through this season.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
But I thought, like I liked what I saw.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
He showed me that, you know, he can be their
guy going forward, and I think they can win a
super Bowl with him.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
He played better against that defense, which is phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
So it's arguably the best defense in the league, either.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
That or Baltimore. Baltimore had more takeaways.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
But outside of that, I mean, the Chiefs defense is
right there, and we saw what they did to the Ravens.
But Brock Purdy's numbers against this Chiefs defense were better
than Lamar Jackson's and better than Tua's when they faced
this chief defense in the playoffs. His pass the numbers
(35:37):
were better than Josh Allen. But Josh Allen also ran
for two touchdowns, so I'll give Josh Allen the nod
over him. But you know, that defense, they battle a
lot of balls. He didn't really have an issue with that.
They blitzed a lot. He handled the pressure well. He
was fifty percent pressure the second half, fifty percent of
his dropbacks, and he did fine.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
I thought he played well.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Yeah, I mean I saw a lot of stuff from
fans and people just saying, oh man, it ain't just
the coach it's a quarterback or and I didn't think
he played that poorly, but there were lulls and I
really questioned Shanahan in throwing the ball that much, Chris,
and I think that's where people have put it on
party because they weren't successful, you know, during that those stretches,
(36:24):
they weren't successful with passing the ball, and they questioned,
why would you do that and not throw the ball,
I mean, not run the ball With the offensive player
of the year, it just seemed like, and I get it,
he wasn't getting nine yards.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
To carry two carries, right, But at the.
Speaker 6 (36:41):
Time though, during the stretch where the game went sideways, Chris,
they weren't running the ball. I hear you.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It wasn't like he had two hundred yards on the ground,
but as.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
Far twenty two carries eighty yards, that's three point six
yards of carry.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, but look at I don't know how many he
had in the second half of what the number was,
but it didn't seem like there was a stretch where
it look like they threw the ball eight or nine
times in a row.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
But they did throw it eight out I think eight
out of nine.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Okay, And I think that's where people were looking at
it and they weren't successful.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
So it goes back to Brock Party.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah, I mean he look, Mahomes wasn't moving the ball
anymore than Party was as a track record through the end.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
No, Yeah, he's obviously better than Brock Party.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I'm just saying I don't put all of that those
stagnant possessions on Party. He didn't make any of the
mistakes that could have cost them the game.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
In fact, Rob, that's a big part of it too.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
I mean, one there was a random that punt fumble
right where the guy fumbled the play. It actually came
down and hit one of the Niners blockers on the foot.
That's just a random play that it's nobody's fault. Now
where I Will fought I think it was Ray Ray McLeod.
(37:58):
Where I Will fought the punt return to Rob is
he he tried to pick up the ball instead of
just diving on it. But Rob that gave the Chiefs
the ball at the sixteen yard line and that was
Mahos's first touchdown, So that you know what I mean, Like,
there were some breaks that just hurt the Niners that they.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
That's a huge.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
It just demoralized the defense which had stopped him, and
then you set them up there with an easy touchdown, like, seriously,
no doubt.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
All right, it's the odd couple.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
We got two hours left as we break down yesterday's
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Keep it locked, Fox Sports Radio,
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