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Speaker 4 (01:30):
A whole lot to get you as well. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
You know when we looked at the Cleveland Browns a
couple of years back, everybody was excited about this whole Wow. Okay, man,
they got a really good team. Baker Mayfield didn't utilize
it right. They've got a defense, all they need is
a quarterback. And then they signed the Shawn Watson in
the middle of chaos, in the middle of dozens of
allegations and lawsuits and claims, didn't just know even bone move,
(01:58):
and then they just give him all the money.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
That's the part.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It wasn't that they signed him for two hundred something
million dollars rob and they said, you know, eighty five
dollars of it guaranteed, all of it guaranteed. That's unheard
of in the middle of scandal and not a kind
of I can understand it.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
That's how That's what they were though, is that he
had him over a barrel. Remember he didn't want.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
To go there. We're gonna go to Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
It was all his talk, and then they just said, well,
we want to win a championship and we need to
add this quarterable.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I don't know if Karma's biting him in the butt,
but my gosh, it does not look good. They are
one and four right now, and not only one in four.
They ain't the Bengals won and four. Where you look
at the Bengals you're like, oh, man, they run off
six straight.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Because Joe Burrow, if it wasn't for the one and
four record, was having an MVP season.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
He like number one in all the category.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So exactly, this isn't a Bengals situation where you're like, man,
if they could just the defense gets a little better,
or again, even at one and four they run off
the they could run off six straight and all of
a sudden be seven and four the Bengals, Nobody would
be surprised by that.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
This is just a bad situation.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
They look bad, they look flat, nobody's playing and they're
supposed to be leader and Deshaun Watson just doesn't.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Have it anymore.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
And you know, it reminds me of rob There's times
in your life where you're gonna lose it physically. If
you're a player, right, That's just a fact of life. Right,
Nobody you sands for Tom Brady and Lebron You're gonna
lose it at a certain point. So we can all
understand that. We can grapple with that. We can we
understand that's just a way of life. Father's time is undefeated.
But then there's also a thing of having your superpower,
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your glow like uh uh you know, uh, Bruce Leroy
from Last Dragon, having that be dimmed because we all
see you now and you've been exposed. And remember when
Talker Woods, it wasn't just that all his back was
out a little bit. It was that it was the
first time in his life he was viewed as Uh,
there was infidelity. There was, and not just that it
(03:56):
was wild stuff. There was pancake houses. There was wife
beating your car with a club. But like, all of
this is happening, and you can tell he felt seen,
He felt unsure of himself. People are questioning who I
am as a person, who I am on markability, and
I feel like some of that is what's happening with
Deshaun Watson. It ain't just that he's not missing passes
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or that maybe he's gotten a little older.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I think he feels seen. I think the weight of
it is heavy.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And the hair that makes you good to great, that
little difference that makes you good to great, he's lost that.
You question things, maybe something's not in the meticulous work
ethic you have. And I think we're seeing that with
DeShawn Jackson, DeShawn Watson, where it's not just oh, maybe
he's off a little bit, missing passes.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I think he is exposed.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
He's feel seen, and that's part of why we're seeing
the decline of him.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
You know, I've said this a few times.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Joe Dumoors who put together that two thousand and four
shout out to Jody jo Mars.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah, championship team and you know this, they beat the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
All that.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
You can say whatever you want, but the one mantra
that I loved when he was the executive and running
that team, he said, it's not about being right, it's
about getting it right.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I think that's the ends in life.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
It's not about being right, it's about getting it right.
And the Browns want to be right rather than getting
it right because they made the uh, they made the offer,
you know, they made the contract and They gave him
all that, so they want up. They're gonna make it work.
We're gonna force this square peg in the round hole.
(05:36):
We're gonna be right because we did it. We gave
him up guaranteed contract. We don't want to be the
laughing stock to the NFL. But it's pretty obvious this
ain't gonna happen because this is now over two course
of two years. This is not just like, oh well,
this is his first year and played in two years
or sidelined I got were horrible.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
For the last decade. They've had some good teams. All
of us are like, man, they should make the play.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Mayfield took them to the playoffs and beat and beat
the Steelers, their rivals.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So here it is.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Since coming to Cleveland, Watson has gone nine to eight
and just seventeen starts across two seasons, barely completing sixty percent.
And you know a lot of people way over sixty nowadays,
and just how the way the league is set up.
On his throws, nineteen touchdowns, seventeen turnovers. That's one for
one almost, so that's no good. And this season Watson
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is averaging minus zero point thirty epa per dropback this
is like the analytical people, it's the lowest by any
Browns quarterback since the stat was created in two thousand,
so that's almost twenty five years. And in fact, Watson's
minus zero point three zero this season is the seventh
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lowest mark of any quarterback in NFL history. He just
have not played well. And I don't know how much
longer they're gonna go with this. And they owe them
the money and all that, but I think that the
Browns are making a mistake. It's time to get it
right and stop trying to be right. They blew it.
(07:08):
They made a mistake. They didn't realize what the layoff
would have done to him. He was a good quarterback.
Anybody who questions not, no, no, I know people trying
to make it like, well he really wasn't that. No, no, no, stop.
He was a good quarterback. He is just not a
good quarterback anymore. I can't get over something's off.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
And as I mentioned, you just wonder if it's mental,
like he's just listen, We've all been at certain places
in our life when something mentally is draining you. It's
taxing on you, it's weighing on you, and it can
affect your performance, whether it be at work, whether it
be maybe the way you're parenting or your romantic relationship.
You know, maybe the way you're treating friends. When you
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said that, I tried not to. I try to, like
just keep looking at the camera, he shout to Elijah.
But you know what I mean, where something's weighing on you,
right and maybe a family member's ill, a parent is
going through it. That stuff is a lot, man, and
trying to be a quarterback of a franchise in the
NFL's already hard job. I mean, Patrick Mahomes is the
once in a lifetime generation and he's not looking amazing.
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Imagine being Deshaun Watson going through what you're going through,
trying to think it's over, and it seems like every
few months, every quarter, a new lawsuit, a new allegation. Dude,
this stuff is taxing. And then let's just keep it real.
Your personal life. Maybe I don't know if his wife
or girlfriend whatever is over it. Let's say she's like,
you know, I'm trying to move past it. Let's just
in and another allegation right now. That means you go
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home and you got a whole nother thing you gotta
do with it, So all of this stuff weighs on him,
and the difference if you talk to any pro or anybody,
you've been covering this long enough to know anybody in
the NBA can drop forty any night. Any quarterback, random
quarterback can throw two hundred and fifty three hundred yards
out of the blue, have a couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Who can do this weekend week out?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
That's what creates the good to great players, right all
stars to Hall of famers. Who does this consistently? And
I just think he can't consistently do any of that anymore,
with all of this on him, doubting himself, the team,
doubting them, fans on them, allegations, maybe he's lost a step.
Maybe again, the things that he normally would do as
far as practice and his habits aren't quite there. Maybe
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the team's already, his teammates don't believe in him. You
just wonder if he'll ever be that again. And maybe
he will elsewhere, Maybe he gets another start somewhere else.
He's still relatively young, but at this time to just
take the l if you're the Browns, you gotta just
take the loss and move on.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
How about the idea that you can't miss that much
time on that level and it not affects you.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I think that that's real, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
That's an exception. But I get the point. Mike Vick
will be the exception, right. But but I'm saying, how
much time rob G did he really miss? Like a
two seasons? No, it was like a season and a half. Well,
it was a season and three quarters. Okay, so you see,
like you're out of pro football. That's a long time.
And I'm just saying that. Maybe I remember when Michael
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Jordan was out playing and came back. You remember, right,
he came back at the end of the season ready
for the playoffs. They got knocked out and he wasn't good.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
You remember that. What did he get? He got good again? Right?
But you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
But that's what Listen said automatic, And you would think
that you would think that maybe to shaw him not
being hit and all the work, you know, like you're
saving your body and all that.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Oh you should be you should be good and refreshed.
And it didn't work with him.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
It's timing with the team finding your guy that you
you know, I got the he doesn't look.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Like anything that he looked like I just can't get
over it, like like there are no but.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
You give what I mean when I said, like that
shame he's walked every time he steps out there. Want
shame the way people didn't see me, you know. And
again Tiger Woods. Listen, let's call it what it is.
Ever since Tiger Woods was exposed, he ain't never been
the same. He's won a tournament here and there. Think
he's won what one major maybe two since then. He
ain't never been the same. Now, agat, somebody's gonna ah
(10:58):
man neck and back injuries. Yeah, and that's a fuel stuff, right,
but he was never the same. And I think that
stuff when that stuff comes out, man, those types of things.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Again, you're talking just to hair.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Think about a quarterback, right, hike, you're back there, you
take your drop back, that one little small hesitation or
that one little thought or that one little I don't
have to rapport with this guy because I haven't been
able to put the time. It makes you average or
below average. That's the differentiator. And I think he's just
a hair off right now. Not really there probably, I
mean you're going home, probably got calls with your lawyer
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every day. Hey man, this is what we got do.
We gotta do this like it's just a lot, man.
But to your point, rop at some point maybe it
is worth I mean that the Browns have to move on, right,
You got take to l We get this guy his
money first time and never that much guaranteed we were
wrong for doing it. Maybe there's a reason why it's
never been done and they got to move on.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Here's the information, the money wise, okay, because you know
there's always money attached to it.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
So if Cleveland cut him today, they'd.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
Have a one hundred and nineteen point nine million dollar
dead cap hit in twenty twenty four or an eighty
point seven million dead cap hit in twenty twenty five.
If they cut them after the season, it's a one
point one eight point nine dead cap in twenty twenty
five and fifty three point eight dead cap hit in
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twenty twenty six. If they cut them in twenty twenty
five after the twenty twenty five season, the cap hit
is seventy two point nine and twenty six point nine
either way. But I'm saying it's gonna be a lot
of money either what no matter. If you want to
wait back the bullet, do it now, or wait a
year from now. If you wait a year from now,
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If you do it now, it's one hundred and ninety
eight million. A year from now, it's one hundred and seventies.
So it's not that you're not the bullet. And if
you do it in twenty twenty six, which is inconceivable,
this is a twenty twenty four season, it still.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Would be one hundred million.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
So it's really what So you're basically do you want
to save the ninety?
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Is really what it comes down to.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Either way's and all that the ninety eight to ninety
you know what I mean, The ninety won't quite be
the ninety by then anyway.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
All right, Well, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox
is the telephone number eight seven seven nine nine six
sixty three sixty nine. And it's real simple. Should the
Browns cut the sean watching them move on? Or can
somebody say no, he needs another give him the whole year.
(13:27):
Maybe it's till next year. You want to have another
training camp. Maybe he could snap out of it. Maybe
you've seen something that makes that we haven't seen because
I just don't see it. I don't see anything to
make me believe he's going to revert back to that
all pro quarterback.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
That's a fair point, though maybe somebody listening right now says, no, man,
he just needs one more receiver, you know, one switch
here there, he'll click back in. We could be wrong
eight seven, seven, nine nine on Fox. Hit us up
with that. We want to hear from him, all right.
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on Fox. If you're just joining the conversation, was Sean Watson?
Is it time to give it up if you're the
the Browns and take the loss? Or do you believe
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there's still something left in the tank?
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Rob?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Who we got?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Let's start with Dion and Texas. You're in the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
What's up?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Dion?
Speaker 4 (15:31):
What up?
Speaker 7 (15:31):
Man?
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Hey, thanks for taking the call.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Fellas.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Listen if it was he played okay last year he
played okay, and then Joe Flacco after he got injured,
Joe Flacco came in there and took that team to
the playoff.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
So that was the potential.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
That that team has. So Joe Flacco showed you the potential.
So we didn't bring this guy in there just to
be okay. We bought him in there to take him
over the top, and he's not that guy. Now what
I would do, I would probably bench and put Jamos
in there, and if Jamis does better, and then we
know the problem was absolutely Watson, which I think that's
what we're gonna find out. So I say, go ahead
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and cut your losses. Now I think Jamis is going
to go in there and do better.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Thanks taking a boat app Yeah, I love the way
he said, Watson mind me coming to America Washington. I
always kind of had me saying that, rister, Randon Watson.
He's got listen, Jameis Winson. We keep talking about Russell Wilson.
That's another great backup to have Jameis Winston go in
there and win you some games and put up some numbers.
So I'm not mad at that at all. He's got
a great point. And Joe Flacco had success with the playoffs.
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Baker Mayfield, we talked about that hat success went to
the playoffs. You can't be the bad part in this
this sandwich of playoff appearance runs and you be the
missing link, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
That's the issue. Eight seven, seven, nine nine on File
just hasn't played well.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
It's hard to even make a case for him, dre
in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
You're in the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Dray?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
What up?
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Dough? Oh?
Speaker 8 (16:57):
You got it?
Speaker 7 (16:58):
You got it?
Speaker 4 (16:58):
You know the Tigers won again.
Speaker 8 (17:01):
I see that, But I ain't a baseball fan. Most
I get baseball from Rocks.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Just wrong with me?
Speaker 8 (17:07):
Okay, all right, we do with that, But no, I
kind of agree with you hit the nail on the
head earlier when you said that he's he's can't expose.
Can you imagine some of the things those guys on
the other side saying to him. You know what I'm
saying that you know how they talk, and for a
lot of those players, they.
Speaker 7 (17:22):
Job is they safe place.
Speaker 8 (17:23):
He no longer has a safe place, right, But I
think they absolutely do. Got to cut him because I'm
a big fan of his. But I think you gotta
cut him because you see what you got with him.
At least if I bring in somebody else, I got
to attitch. I'm gonna have to pay you anyway.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Right, And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
That's not really Kean, right, Dreight, AND's not gonna save
that much money in the grand scheme, even if they
waited three years, it's still gonna cost you one hundred
million to get rid of them. That's how bad the
deal is. So what's the difference if you're giving up
one seventy or a mill or one hundred million, what's
the difference?
Speaker 4 (17:54):
No difference?
Speaker 8 (17:55):
Right, And like I said, the aready said, like you said.
With Joe Flecker, he showed he could prove. But that
man is us in his head. Man, you got to
think how many of us can actually we will be
able to describing our professions, our deepest secrets were exposed
like he is.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
That's what And Dre, that's what I was saying. As
you heard, man, I moved that walls cloth down a
little bit. I'm just saying, thanks to Tiger woods Man
that I'm telling Tiger woods was the greatest we've ever seen.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
He ain't been right since he got exposed like that.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Hey, press box Terry in Seattle, you're on the couple
of Fox sportuating why you call press box Terry?
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Do you come to Seattle you see football game or soccer?
Speaker 7 (18:35):
I got you, all.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Right, what's up? Buddy called him PBT out here in
the streets.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
That's right, And I'm saying, no, you don't cut him
this year, given to the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Because to be cutting now he goes somewhere like Miami
and stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
He's not going anywhere.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
You're never You're never heard.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Let me ask you this though, PBT, don't I have
to don't I have to not think about what my
Miami would do. I have to think about what I'm
gonna do my team, and then you can hear it
right now.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
I agree with you that that's right.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
Yeah, you have to worry about your team. I mean,
Denver did it with Russell Wilson. They ate a big
thanks for that call, appreciate it. Uh they didn't, you
know what I mean. They were like, Okay, we'll just
pay it whatever we gotta do certain point and move
and move on. I'm just saying it can be dumbe.
When people say you can't do it, cam't means unable to.
So you mean mayn't, but you can do whatever you want.
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Let's get one more, he says Rob Gill.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
We do bring it up, all right, We'll shout out
to everybody who call. We'll get back. We got last
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So if you couldn't get in now, you still got
plenty of time. Last call coming up in a little bit,
Rod Woodson, Hall of Fame, dB. He see if he
feels with it what we say that the Ravens are
the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Lamar Jackson's the best player.
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He covers the Ravens play by play analysts for us
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Speaker 7 (20:18):
Rod.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
What's up, brother? You doing Rod?
Speaker 7 (20:20):
What's going on with my brother?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Hey? Rod?
Speaker 5 (20:24):
That game yesterday in Cincinnati was one for the Agers.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I was thoroughly impressed.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Joe Burrow five touchdowns, does his thing and the Ravens
win that game. And Lamar the play that I still
can't get over with. Lamar rolls to the right, the
farms a couple guys and throws a touchdown in the
end zone.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
Was that not incredible?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:47):
I tell you what I mean. You know stifferm Hubbard,
who's sixty five to sixty five shift, I mean, dropped
him to the ground, goes acts like he looks like
he's gonna run out of bounds, and he throws it
back across the middle of the field into the end zone.
Times the likely, I mean, everything that you're taught not
to do. Yep, you did and it worked. And it's just,
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you know, just one of those things that you go
out and you watch these guys play, and you know,
Joe Burrow lighting up there the secondary and the defense
for the Ravens, and Lamarin's doing the same thing to
the Sinnetti Bingals defense, and I mean, yes, So I
love seeing and calling that game. It was outstanding. But man,
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what is going on with the defense in the National
Football League? They're getting dagged by everybody. They're like, the
fundamentals are just gone.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Yeah, tackling is down.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
We've seen some horrendous tackling performances by multiple teams.
Speaker 4 (21:41):
Let me, why don't you answer that.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Let me ask you one thing, is it because and
you stopped me if I'm wrong. But we got to
the point where everybody's trying to punch the ball out,
you know what I mean, And I really grab people
to tackle them to bring them down.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Am I wrong on that or just that's.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
That's the part of it there. Everybody's trying to get
the strip right, and everybody's trying to make a digt.
So they just they wrapped, they they just they shoulder
to tackle them. They don't even wrap up anymore, you know.
They say, although we don't put pads on, but we
would take our pads off like week seven and we
would just have our sweats on and shorts on when
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we practice, and we still stuted up like I almost do.
I'm still getting you the same shoulder things for the
same shoulder, like I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna still
do that my technique, right, So I don't lose that form.
I don't lose it on a consistent basis. But it's
just like in this league, for some reason that the
packing us down, the the understanding coverages down, understand the
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philosophy of coverages down. It's just It's really sad to
see because these guys are making so much money and
they're so good. They're great athletes, but they're not playing
great football defensively. Offensively, Yeah, you can say when you're
putting up that many points, I thought it was gonna
be a shootout, but not knowing as gonna be that high.
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You said, you think they're gonna put some points on
the board. But for the seeing across the board, how
the defense is playing across the league, It's a league epidemic.
Core tackling, not understanding coverage, not understanding leverage, not understanding
how to pay upfield, shoulder and keep receivers in front
of you. But then when you get into the end zone,
play what we call looking lean to play underneath them.
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It just makes no sense.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Rob Woodson our guest Hall of Fame dB and also
Fox Sports Radio NFL analyst Rod, you know, I'm gonna
stay with the Ravens for a minute. Uh. We had
a Robin. I had a great conversation and then someone
called in. We had folks calling in and one of
them said, hey, what's different than this team then last year?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
And I said, well, hey, hopefully you're a season Wiser
and b Deck Henry. What's different?
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Are we wrong for thinking that that that this team
is not the same team as last year?
Speaker 7 (23:54):
It's not the same to every team the different, right,
But I think what Derek gives you is different as
that they balled him up for fourth quarters for the
most part. Right, you get that one carry in the
overtime when he gets the second possession and he takes
it fifty some yards, right, and they just keep good,
go to win. So yeah, but the key is with
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Derek and you have to understand what there's a limit
of the dept coordinators ran when you're playing them. If
if Lamar puts that ball in their stomach, is the
end crashing is the linebacker stepping with them. And then
if he pulls it and he gets to the edge, Lamar, shoot,
he's making everybody looks crazy. He looked like a fool.
So it just it's then that you do then if
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you don't with you know, with that philosophy. And they're
they're making a lot of people have headaches. But the
one thing Lamar is doing real well, he's stilling those
eating media passage. He's getting rid of him. They blicked
him quite a bit, he got rid of the football.
He fouled his open receivers. He struggled a little bit
in the first half. He did some deeper balls. They
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kind of went went high, but he recalculated, replanted a seat,
got the ball down. And if he can do that
on a consistent basis, now you can't stack the box.
So he's gonna get rid of the football. He's gonna
find this guy. They're gonna put some tight ends out there,
and I think everybody's realizing they got three really good
tight ends and they got running back. They can get
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the ball come out of the backfield. So it's gonna
be hard to defend this football team.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
How about what should the Browns do? They're in a
bad jo Deshaun Watson. I mean, let's be.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Walk off the field like that.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
And then right the coach.
Speaker 7 (25:36):
You see the coach when he put his head down
and say where are you going? Right, he like took
his head set up like I was like that is
like he.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Quit, like like you know that the coach can't even
get in the play that he wants to run. The
quarterback walks off and Deshawn's been a bust, been terrible
rod for going on two seed nine and eight.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
I know one thing, if if if he was on
our team and he walked off that field, he ain't
playing no more because we'll go to the coach. Hey,
I'll play with anybody else. Right, you ain't putting that
dude back out there because he quit on us. I
don't know what what because he's so talented, he's obviously
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I don't know what. It's all the office field issues
right as it's gotten in to his head. I'm not
really sure because I've never talked of to him, but
I'm saying, quitting when your guys is tough man.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Especially that position too. That's you know, he's supposed to
be the leader. Uh and that how about what are
you doing Pittsburgh?
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Okay, they once started out three and oh now they've
lost their last couple.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I mean to me, Uh, you look at Justin Fields.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Uh and against that Dallas Cowboys defense missing their two
best players, they haven't been able to stop.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
The run all year.
Speaker 8 (26:58):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
That turned the ball over to each time. Pittsburgh has
to win that game, don't they?
Speaker 8 (27:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (27:03):
But they, I mean think about it now, and they
still had it. So this vaulted defense that was there,
they have a great opportunity to stop them, and they
let Dallas Cowboys march right down the field and score
a touchdown. So they had the opportunity. And yes, for
several years, the Pittsburgh Theaters offense has been mediocre, we
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know it, right, but the defense has always been good.
The defense always rises up and makes the play. And
they were making place throughout the game. That one drive,
they just couldn't make the play well.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
Though, you know, they almost they almost made it.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
I'll tell you what, that was a really nice play.
That was a really nice play. With that being said,
you just got to think, you know, and then do
you bring Russell in? Is he going to be he's
gonna make this offense better? I don't know if he's
going to make the offense better. I just don't know.
And they and if you don't know, you know, do
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you stay with field and let Russell get completely healthy?
And then I think there, if they don't play any
better next week, I think you got to make a change.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
Say that's what I think.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
I think there's one more week here, and if they
lose again and now THET three and three and the
offense still just isn't where it needs to be. I
think they probably will just to see if Russ can
give them anything, right.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
I think you have to. It's unfair to the rest
of the teams could not make the change when you
bought Russell wilsonin in here, who won a Super Bowl,
went to two, has played at a high level. He
knows how to play, so I think you got to
give him an opportunity at least see he can make
a difference for the offense and put a spark with
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that offense and makes him play for him along with
the defense, because the defense just needs a little help.
And I think if they can get that, it'd be good.
But I think after next week, if if Fields can
go out there and play great, then you stay with Fields.
If he doesn't, if he's if he doesn't even have
a hard game, again, I think you got to. I
think Mike has really look in the mirror and make
that change. I know it's gonna be tough for them,
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but you know, might have been good. You will have
some words to make y' all think, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's right. I like what he's saying.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Yeah, well he always does that. We'll get you out
of here on this one Rod.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You know, I'm sitting here laughing because here we are
an hour and forty minutes into our show, and once again,
we never really talk about the Minnesota Vikings. They're like
the best team that no one really talks about.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
What do you make of them? Again?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Just having this great season defensively, Sam Donald looking good?
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Where are you with them?
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Are they the best team in football who no one
really talks about or maybe cares.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
I think they're I think they're a really good football team.
I don't put a lot of stocks in. I mean,
obviously you played the team that you're playing on on
your schedule, and I think defensively, I think they've done
a tremendous job of showing a lot of different looks,
making some plays, getting plays, of getting quarterbacks confused. I
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think Sam Donald is a tremendous job retinding his you know,
his career, well, guess the Jets.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
He had no touchdowns and an interception. Wasn't like he
was playing lights out.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
No, no, but but he's not. He wasn't playing lights out.
But sometimes you don't have to always play great when
you When you can play mediocre to average and still win,
that's a plus for your football team. That's the same
thing you kind of would you know, the Kania City Chiefs.
Everybody's like, got Kansas City because they're they're playing really
good football. They're winning, but they're not looking great, you know,
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like the dominant. But man, it's hard to be that
dominant all the time. And I think from Minnesota, nobody
thought in the I don't think there's anybody else. There's
one bet that say the Minnesota Vikings will be five
and zero after the first five.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
Weeks, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Hey, Rod, thank you so much. And that's what I always
try to tell Rob. Relaxed, Darry winning and not Rob
always want to find.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I'm a nitpicker. Hey, thank you.
Speaker 6 (30:57):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
You are ready think it's a rap already? Rob, you
think it's a rap already. We're just the MLB postseason.
We're enjoying it. We got the Yankees Royals on and Rob,
something is a rap already. He'll tell you what that
is next. It is The Odd Couple, Kevin Washington, Rob Parker.
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Chris Brussard and Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app Rob.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I'm a little I'm a little disappointed in you. Man.
Why you got mad up a little bit? You need
a little spicy mustard.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You run around the building screaming, Wow, we had a
bat in the studio. Okay, I'll give you the bat.
It was a little crazy, crazy run around and you
basically jumped in my lap. Well almost, what is going?
I mean, what's up?
Speaker 7 (31:45):
Man?
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Come on? You know what I mean? That's spicy mustard.
I blew out my nostril. Yeah, I ain't go. Yeah,
they took your mustache off.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Right.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Oh, I'm scared to look. Well, I'm talking on this
back to you. I haven't open mind up at all.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
I'm alone. Don't even touch it. I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
So one one Dodgers padres and you're telling me it's
already over.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Is that what you're trying to sell me? Well, the
problem is this one. No, the Dodgers pitching is the issue.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
You know that in the first two games at home
in LA were down three to nothing in both of
those games. Thank god they won Game one. Otani with
the big home run got them back in it. They
win Game one I'm not, Hey, they won the game,
but now I'm starting to look and I'm like, Okay,
their pitching going forward is what scares me.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Walker Bueler Game three, who has definitely not been Walker Buler.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
One years and six a five point three eight r ray.
If you want me to face this public defender, I cannot.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Okay, Michael King, who had a tremendous season thirteen and.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Nine and nine two point nine to five, el ray.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
It's what I'm trying to say is like going in
and San Diego, they put it on them Sunday night.
I mean, what it was it, ten to two to
final whatever, they smashed all those home runs. I just
don't think the Dodgers have the pitching and its injuries
and all kinds of other stuff. And if Walker Buhler
would have to pitch the game of his life to
get them in the series, because I just think they're
going to be behind after that.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
So here's where I mostly get your point. I don't
think what you're saying is crazy. As it looks like
the Royals get another run on the board, you don't
want one now in the top of the fourth couple outs,
still going right now, going strong why I don't strongly
disagree with you. I think most people knew going in
the Dodgers pitching would be an issue. But I think
this is the first time in a couple of years,
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especially with Shohey and Mookie, who has been the epitome
of struggle in the postseason hits what everybody thought was
a home run except for Profar actually caught it. But
where I'm going with this is if Walker Buehler is
just decent, you know, let's say he gives up three,
but he gives them five innings five and you know,
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five and two thirds and he only gives up three.
This is one of the first times I say their offense,
especially with oh Hey, you feel like, all right, even
if ultimately they give up five runs total, we can
still win six to five.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
We can win seven to five. And that's the slight
chance that I.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Give them that maybe you differ a little bit, is
that this is the first time I'm like, all right, offensively,
they can do some things. He Taoskarnano, he ever gets
right that they can stay in it as long as
the pitching that exploded to give up ten.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
But but you just said it, and that's what we
saw last night at Dodger Stadium, but that.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Was a home run festival. No home runs. But the
Padres have that kind of line as well.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
And that's the thing I'm saying is like, offensively, they
are a really good teams. I just think ultimately you
need a picture and you're asking for a lot.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Walker Buller is not the same guy since he's knocked back.
The injuries have definitely really.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Altered him, and I just think they had their two
best pictures go in Game one and two and basically
give up. I'm not saying they all gave up all
the runs, but they gave up fifteen runs at home
in the first two. Get fifteen runs at home, not
going on the.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Road, true, but you won one. You want a game,
no doubt, up seven runs in your game, You're going
on the road. It's not an unfamiliar place. It's not
like you know and you've been there before. Dodger fan,
I know. The whole ticket thing, We'll see how that
ended up working out, you know, them telling fans not
to sell tickets to Dodger fans.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
We'll see.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
I mean, you can say Dodger fans, you can say that,
but I need I got money. You know, I need
some money, So we'll see how that ultimately works out.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
But you can tell somebody who needs Yeah, Yo, if.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I bought this ticket one hundred hours, I can get
three hundred for You can leave me alone, especially considered
you're you're a millionaires and millionaires telling me not to
do what to do with my money.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I just think there's still a chance. I do agree.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
It looks bleak when you're talking about the pitching, but
this is the one time I feel like this season
the Dodgers had to fight more than normal. Uh, they
had to makeshift lineups, They've had to make things happen,
and I'm hoping that'll bowl well for them. And I'm hoping, man, Mookie,
come on move. This is the strangest thing. You covering
baseball way longer than me. What the heck Mookie to see?
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And the guys that struggle in the postseason. We talked
about it earlier, Aaron Judges struggling, striking out. You know,
almost every time up you know a great player. Sometimes man,
you don't want to put some respect on his name.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Hey, our number three of the odd couples coming up,
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