Rob and Kelvin argue over how much blame Aaron Rodgers deserves for Robert Saleh getting the axe from the New York Jets and use the ugly Los Angeles Dodgers-San Diego Padres series as a reason to tell us why they have a problem with unruly sports fans. Later, San Francisco Chronicle NFL columnist and author Mike Silver swings by to promote his new book, ‘The Why is Everything: A Story of Football, Rivalry and Revolution’. Finally, the Odd Couple Callers bring the heat in this week’s edition of Trash Talk.
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Our number two on a trash Talking Tuesday. Your chance
to trash anyone anything in the world of sports. That's
coming up in about forty minutes forty five minutes, so
you want to make sure you lock in on that.
Also in about twenty eight minutes, Mike Silver from the
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author has written all kinds of books and stuff, so
(00:53):
we'll talk to him about his new book, The Why
Is Everything a Foot? A Story of football rivalry and revolution.
It's in stores now, so we'll talk to him.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Did he send us on, rob g send us some
books you know I'd like to read if.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You want, when we'll get you going? All right?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, I need uh, let me see how many people
on the show. One two?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I need baby oil that and four books for Christmas.
Gonna mess the pages up.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
That's all right. Hey, there's a rhyme or reason you
ever hear rubber gloves. I'm just sayd hold that all right?
Hit me with a hold. All right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Uh it is the odd couple of Rob Parker kelvin Washington.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
That's right, gee, what is your what is your mission
in life? As a job description? In order number two?
Make the show good? Number one with a bullet make
sure Rob does not get fired exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
That is number They told me they're like have fun.
But by the way, make sure he don't give number one.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's right, Alex, you know that's your job too. I
don't know how I still have a job. That's right.
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have an issue with the Jets who haven't won anything
since Moby Dick was a guppy that the idea that
they would give a future Hall of Fame quarterback any
(02:22):
say on honest, I don't need your I'm just telling
you this is your qualifiers. This is what you're saying
because I'm trying to make sense out of it.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
What I'm saying is, and I've been saying, is that
this has been ever since Aaron Rodgers has come. It
went from a team that wasn't good. We all knew
that who actually probably overachieved being seven to nine a
couple of seasons ago was Zach Wilson and all that
and ended up winning some more games last season, more
than you thought. Listen, Robert sala is not a guy
(02:53):
that you're gonna write home to be like, hey, this
guy's have to be a head coach for a decade.
But there was some stability on the defensive side. They
weren't as great as they had but they're still solid,
still keeping them in games. But once Aaron Rodgers came,
and I get it, Listen, I'm not even mad at it.
You have a chance to bringing Aaron Rodgers to a
team that had a great defense at the time of
the signing makes sense. But all that has come with it,
and this is what happens when you go and you
(03:15):
put everything, all your eggs in this one basket. He
wants to do everything his way, bringing my guys, bringing
my offensive corner and begging this. He wants zero accountability,
He want everything.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
He wants zero. Every week, every.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
He threw the three interceptions, but every week he said,
he said it, all of a sudden, you have to
admit the ball everything has begun to unravel. Where it's
every week is your two and three and there are
other two and three teams that are less dramatic. Every
no something but the offensive line of cadence. We're talking
about Garrett Wilson doing this. Aaron Rodgers didn't like that.
(03:51):
And if then you hack it, he's got his he's
got his other toil over his head.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They don't ohe Me and Sola are good. We don't
have to necessarily. I think it's too early for.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Hugs, Like every week is a thing, and it's tiring,
it's exhausting, and he ain't playing good enough to warrant that.
It's not like he's Lamar Jackson bring a bunch of druma.
You're like, well, shoot, you know what you can drama
all you want. You can be a Telenobeva, you can
be a soap opera, you can bring all the drama.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Because boy is balling out here. That's not the case.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And so Roberts Saler firing was inevitable because everything is
not looking, it's falling, it's not great, it's chaos.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Somebody got to go.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
And their whole entire identity right now is Aaron Rodgers.
So he's not going anywhere. So obviously Robert sala had
to be the fall guy. And again I'm not saying
he's Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, whoever you want
to throw in there, but I'm saying this is what
they've now created with Aaron Rodgers, and they got to
ride this thing out and come another two months. They
better hope it worked because if it continues to be
(04:44):
cast and this fault, his fault, this offense is bottom
of the third, bottom of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Right now, what do you do next? What do you
do next season? What do you mean you're not worried about?
Worried about next season? And number one, here's where we
part company is that Aaron Rodgers should get some credit
and credibility in coming in as a guy who has
won a Super Bowl, who has won a Super Bowl MVP.
You could sit here and go, well, he didn't win
(05:10):
two or whatever it is. Dan Marino didn't win.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
A super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Okay, there's a lot of great quarterbacks that never won
a Super Bowl. He did win a Super Bowl, he
did win a Super Bowl MVP, and he won four MVPs.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
In this league. It ain't like everybody has four MVPs. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So if a guy's gonna come in to a more
bond franchise that hasn't won jack since nineteen sixty nine,
I am going to listen to that guy more so
than a head coach who can't get it right and
hasn't been able to get it right and will probably
never ever ever get another head coaching job.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
So, yes, it's a bumpy start. They better hope it works.
No what I'm saying, No.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Would you say they better They ever't won anything. If
it doesn't work, it will be that it was on
the Jets.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So he can't sand the fact that I never win.
Just be happy I never win a game.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
When I gave you the keys to the King, I
gave hered example.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
He didn't bring in his own head coach Robert Bate.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Manning had almost the exact same thing as you just said.
Super Bowl title, bunch of MVPs. Same kind of guy,
I think. Obviously, I think he's had a better career
than Aaron Rodgers, but I absolutely get the same thing.
He goes to Denver, they ball out, the first year,
ball the heck out, make it all the way to
the super Bowl right then the next year they go
back or whatever it was, the next year they go.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
To super Bowl, and obviously they go to the Super Bowl.
Up was the first year with him they went. He
went to three. One. He went to two super Bowls
with the Broncos. No he went with he went to two.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
So probably he didn't bite many go to two super
Bowls with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
No he went, he went with thank you two.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
He got smacked up the first time, but the leaves
went boom, Seattle leeds in the boom, and then he
beat Carolina.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But I thought until he went to four super Bowl
didn't he go Yes? Okay, so I thought with the
coach and.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
One with By the way, notice a trend that great
goes a bunch of Super Bowls. Your boy just can't
see to get back. And that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
But till but the difference is, go look at his
numbers in the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
What he had.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh no, he was winding. I agree, okay, and this
he got benched. That one thing I'm a huge to
being realist. He ain't win. That, you ain't never gonna here.
He was an ad on and that one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I'm not gonna act like he was out there looking
like you know, Steve Young or Joe Montana in the
Super Bowl. But I'm just simply saying, your brother keep
kept getting there, and I need Aaron Rodgers. It doesn't
make sense to talented to not get back. And and everybody,
including the Jets, was saying, man, with this team, this defense,
these weapons, he gets here, this should work now, to
be fair, because a brother always tries to be fair,
(07:44):
give him some time, maybe this thing can work out.
But I just find it crazy that all this chaos
every week is something else. Every week is the Cadies. No,
and the cats is fine?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Gary Wilson off, Gary Wilson saying what's wrong with the offense?
It was, it's worse now than it was. My first
couple of seasons in the league and it's everything else.
It's everybody else except who is there trying to dominate
this thing. So that's what all I'm saying is you
have major bed. Aaron Rodgers is laying all a bit.
It may did it better work.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Out, but it doesn't make when when you say it
better work out, what is the alternative?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
They don't have an alternative. Let me let me get
my pointon.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
This isn't a franchise that has done anything right for
forty years. So if it doesn't work out, this will
be the Jets as who they are because they brought
Brett fav in and it didn't work with Brett Farr.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
What do you have to say about Brett fak It
was better than this. He went there. They were eight
and three, no, and then they lost, and.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Then they lost the rest of the year and didn't
even make the playoffs. They started eight and three and
didn't they noticed.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
You notice the common trick, You notice the common Trenck
stop bringing in forty some year old. No, but my
stop bringing in forty some year old. That's exactly what.
So you say, what can they do? You don't drive
Zach Wilson. Find nobody was screaming for Zach Wilson. That's fine,
that guy jets. So I'm saying they better find a
way to make a change. And I'm not even mad. Again,
keep in mind, what I'm saying is in life, all
(09:08):
of us have done this. Whether it's a relationship, whether
it's a sports team. You made your bed. You're all
in with this. And that's why I'm saying it's better
work because now it's just another year behind the eight ball,
another year when you let people go, another week where
your star receiver ain't happy, another year for the defense
talking about the star receiver was happy last year when
Zach Wilson was get on the quarterback. You know, Garrett Wilson,
(09:29):
he said the offense is worse. That's scary if you're
telling me my offensive robby won seven games last year,
and and Garrett Wilson literally said that his offensive routes
and the things that, you know, it's worse.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Than was happy last year that they won. SI, I'm
saying it's worse than it. They won games. Come on, man,
you better you better get to seven this year. Please,
you better get to seven.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think we're gonna hold on Alex Holless tape, because
when they win the division, we'll go, we'll revisit this,
and then you'll look and say, what was I talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
How?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
How was I defending Roberts Wings on the right.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Now you know that Buffalo Bills are winning the division.
You said they won't win seven games?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
No, you hurt me.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
The Buffalo Bills will win the division.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You can bet wings on it.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
The division is up for grabs, true, and they have
a chance. Buffalo's not the team we just Buffalo is
not the same team. Everybody where your mouth. I said,
it's a bet, y'all Clockett Buffalo Bills. Buffalo Bills will
win the division real quick.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Before you guys stamp it, Rob, give you one chance
to back out it.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm not backing out of it.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Since nineteen seventy and I don't want ralfs Wings. Since
nineteen seventy, how many teams that fired their coach mid
season went on to make the playoffs that year?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Five? Zero? Are you sure?
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Okay, this is not mid season. This is five games
in and then one game out of the quarterpo. Okay,
so now.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Said nineteen seventy, that's a long time, Rob.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
But that's another Usually when they fired coaches, they're on
five or what this is not that?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
And now no one think since nineteen seventy they've had
coaches who were two and three.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
No, no, not the team ahead of you, Okay, we
just talked about it. The team ahead of you is
one game ahead. Miami has no quarterback, Miami's out of it. Agreed,
if they win month, this is how quickly they win
Monday they were in first place.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You know they gotta keep winning, right, No, no, no,
band gotta just win Monday.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
They got to keep winning.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
How many coaches of those who got fired, okay to
the nineteen seventy who got fired went to first place
after winning their first game?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
How many zero?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And that's what I'm saying that it's set up that
you can turn this around because the degree of difficulty
is it like far? Like right now, I'm if they
were owing five, rob g then I would agree with them.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Of course you would on five.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Oh, and this is what makes it better because you
actually feel like there's a chance. This is full on
Second City moment right now. I bet this is full
I'll bet you three. This is how I feel like
you're right now twenty like you're typing in your phone
thirty to twenty.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Do me and Alex get any of these wings you
want to get in my betting with you get just saying, guys,
I'm here as you're getting thirty wings.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Of course I'm sharing. I don't want to see rob
all thirty of me and my wings are not coming
from Ralphs, y'all. Now I might buy you Ralphs twenty
rings because that's you're.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Okay with That's all right. Ralph was all right with me.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Shout out to Ralphs for my groceries, not my wings
for me to be eating in the moment. Matter of fact,
let alone your ribs. But yeah, so I like a
little Louisiana rubb. Couple of lemon peppers. Can you give
them a mile? Can you clue them in?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
When Chris Bussaw went to try on the Jordan's when
we had our uh Nationals Dodgers bet, Chris Busan had
to nerve the Dodgers were up two oh, he went
to foot locker to try on the Jordans that he wanted. Okay,
you know the Nationals cats back in one you pick
that's that that that's a bull pick that's much bolder
(12:56):
than that was. I gave you that one more than
this one. And he went to try his jordings or
had the nerve to go to the store and let
me know that he won't try them more.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
He's probably sick about that right now if like Elijah,
clip that so we can just remind him right now.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
He ain't want to drop to your knees.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
That's right, yes, no doubt about, no doubt all right,
coming up next, this is you, this is me right.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, k dub keeping it real. It's some things we
got to keep it real about. I'm doing it for
the people, and we'll be doing that coming up. I
gotta break down some things. Hey, listen to people, listen
to your boy. I'm gonna keep it real and take
yield my advice please.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And of course Mike Silver is coming up as well
in about fourteen to fifteen minutes, and it's a trash
talking Tuesday. You'll have a chance to trash anyone anything
in the world of sports. You'll get the line up
at the bottom of the hour. It is the odd
couple on the trash Talking Tuesday, Rob Parker Kelvin Washington,
who was going to be big time wrong going forward.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
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Speaker 2 (14:15):
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Speaker 4 (14:17):
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we're heading towards four weeks, and was like, man, I gotta,
you know, bring a little something something to the show.
So I want to do something. We'll start in his call.
Kate's keeping it real and it would be like sweet
to have stuff. This is week one. You know what I'm saying.
(15:17):
I hear Rob g I kind of lay like, Yo, that's.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Exactly how real is it?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Rob?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's so real? It's okay? Is that in?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Now?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
So we know Game two. One thing we all love
about sports rivalries. We love some trash talking, even us
what we do. You love some passion to be into it.
And we see that with the Padres, we see that
with the Dodgers, and that's what you want, right. You
got Machado Flaherty going into it, you got players doing this,
you got players going at it with the fans. But
one thing you never want to see is when fans
(15:48):
start throwing things at players on the field. Had a
chance to talk to my man, Jerry Harrison Junior, of course,
with Sports in La out here in Los Angeles covering
the Dodgers. He joined my show with Spectrum News one
earlier this morning. This is what he had to say.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
We can't have the incidents that we had in Game two.
We can't have.
Speaker 10 (16:04):
Certain individuals starting to throw baseballs on the field at players.
That can never happen in any environment at any stadium,
but certainly not Dodger Stand.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We can't have that.
Speaker 11 (16:16):
We want energy, we want passion, we want that place
to be allowed environment. But you never want to see
fans start throwing things on the field that can't happen.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
So let me keep it real with you. I love
sports just as much as you. I love sports just
as much as you, Rob Parker. But one thing I
also am, and as are you and Rob g and
Alex and even Brian. We're all men. And if we
were out there playing a sport man and you threw
something at me, I got some major issues with you.
And I'm always dumbfounded at people that feel as if
(16:48):
they paid their money. Now I have the right to
throw something at you. Now I have the right to
say some wild stuff. And you can get wild as
a fan. You can talk trash and nobody's against that.
But if you saw what they were throwing down to
the pull bullpen, that was crazy, Rob, That wasn't one
person who was drunk and one person through something. That's
what we initially thought, because you know, we're seeing it
live in real time. But as those videos starts circulating
(17:10):
on Twitter and you start to see different angles, man,
they got that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
They took it way too far.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
And the thing I hate about this is they have
now created it where if you're reacting as an athlete,
you're the bad guy. You're in an intense situation, passionate,
putting your all into this thing, literally blud sweat and tears,
and somebody who paid ninety nine to ninety nine is
sau stuff and they get to throw something at you.
It's absolutely crazy, that's absolutely acidine. And in fact, the
(17:35):
fans fight over men and tights. Why are you fighting
over men?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Tize?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Guess who Mooie Best doesn't know you, guess who Manny
man Chado don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
You Go enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Be loud, lose your voice from screaming, be passionate, throw
popcorn in the air all you want, but don't throw
stuff at players. Don't throw beers at'reu on our test
laying on the scoreboard. Don't and don't be in there
all of a sudden trying to fight Rob G and
I want to bring our girls to the game. We
got to maybe not bring our girls to the game
because you're gonna be fighting people just because you're drunk
and sau stuff. I've never understood it. I don't get it,
(18:07):
and I actually am blown away. Actually, how many players
are levelheaded enough to not actually run to the stands.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well they have to be because they're the professionals. And
I know it sounds like it's unfair, but it's not.
Because they represent more, they have more to lose. You
cannot react or overreact listen to what people are doing. No,
I'm listening. I would you know, I've seen these things happen,
and I get it. You could be a grown man
and all that, but you're the only one who's gonna lose.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Not But I might be sir Chuck and throw somebody
through a window and then be like, hey, my bad,
there was a smudge on that window, Chuck, there was
a snug.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I was trying to clean it up his shirt. He
had a sweater on. It looked like it could have
been a sponge. No, no, no, But I'm that serious, Like
I get what you lose that's without a doubt. But
I just don't represent there. It is fair because they
have they have a bigger responsible they do from some
drunk fan.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
They're not drunk, you know, like you're trying.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
To say, as a person who's not a heavy drinker
who rarely needs, y'all got to relax with this.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That person's drunky. So don't go to the game against
just not what I'm saying. But you're sober.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Okay, you're sober on the field playing and you're not
gonna match the reactions or the actions of somebody who's
liquored up or drunk.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Not what I'm saying, No, no, no, I okay what you're saying.
You're so listening to me. I know, I'm so.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Out parking at kelvin Washington. This is our first month
doing this show. And as we grow and we keep
getting bigger and we go places. Please believe somebody throw
a beer at you. I got you. You ain't even
gotta blink. I'm Steven Jackson to your our test. Okay,
I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I'm not built like that, and I'm an extraordinarily rational
level head of guy. You know me but I'm just
blown away that thirty forty fifty year old men, mostly men,
but women to get to act like.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
They fight in the stands with each other. I mean,
what games have you not? Have you not seen videos
of people?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
And I'm blowing That's why I said, y'all fighting over
men and tights is the most craziest thing to me.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I don't know you exist, I've seen people fighting.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
One of the worst fights I ever saw was I
was at a Mets playoff game many.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Years ago that's already starting, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And there was not an It didn't even have anything
to do with baseball. One guy was wearing a Ranger jersey.
I'm talking about New York Rangers hockey jersey. The other
three guys are wearing Islanders jersey. This is at a
baseball playoff game, okay. And the guy in the Ranger
jersey says, yells at the three guys the Islanders suck.
(20:40):
They got They beat the guy to a pulpe in
two seconds.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And that's my point. That is crazy. It was that
a baseball I'm like, what, and that is.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Crazy that you then tell me, well, just because they
were saut up this I said.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I said the players. I know what you said. Players,
you don't win. That's it real.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I'm keeping it real. And if somebody ever I got
your back row, I'm Steven Jackson. Okay, that's just crazy
to me that grown men get to go act like
four year olds everything, Rob g And I tell our daughters,
don't do they get to go out there and do
it like they're not grown.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Keep it real.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
But if I I'm just telling you, it feels like
a three dollars you will, you better bail me out.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I don't know about that. You better bail me out.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
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Speaker 4 (21:33):
He is Mike Silver, San Francisco Chronicle Columns and MILLIONI Well,
let's plug his book then it is called The Why
Is Everything? A story of football rivalry and revolution. And
in this book that was just released, the book focuses
on five current NFL head coaches that are considered to
be the new breed, and it's a cadre of cutting
(21:53):
edge league bosses who are completely shaking things up and
performing the job of NFL head coach in ways and
manners that have never been done befo. I'll let him
also explain some more in just a little bit. Mike,
thank you for joining the show.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Mike, what's up?
Speaker 12 (22:06):
Thanks for having me. Guys, how are you doing well?
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Oh? You know, living living to dream?
Speaker 13 (22:12):
Get ready to go up to Seattle for a little
Thursday Nights football, And yeah, here we.
Speaker 14 (22:19):
Are the season.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Season doesn't really start till there's an abrupt head coach
in firing and the season has now officially begot Yes, please.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Tell us about the book, because I got some bones.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
To pick with Kyle Shanahan and all those guys you
have on there having one Jack and there's supposed to
be this new age NFL head coaches explained.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Please, mister Mike Silver, this is great.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
I love coming on and plugging with.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
He did also Sean McVay.
Speaker 12 (22:48):
I don't know if you knew this, but.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
He's in there. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right,
you're right.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
The forty nine Ers dB dropped the interception that Matt
Stafford through Tim I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 15 (22:59):
Sad that's true.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
And then Kyle stan has obviously been to to Matt
Lafleur has been to two conference title games.
Speaker 15 (23:07):
He's now trying to.
Speaker 13 (23:09):
Get it done with young Jordan Love where he Morris
is three and two in Atlanta a second time around.
It took forever it being the NFL.
Speaker 15 (23:18):
But I'm really excited to see what he has going.
And then Mike McDaniel last year was.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Dropping seventy and taking knees.
Speaker 13 (23:25):
This year it's not going so great.
Speaker 15 (23:28):
And he's going to have to try to figure it out.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
But yeah, you know, all these guys were on that
Washington staff in the early twenty ten's under Mike Shanahan
and RG three showed up.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
They had to kind of innovate their way out of
a conundrum because his appearance was in the Pistol, and
you know, on the fly, they took their whole offense
and transported it to the Pistol and did something super revolutionary.
And that's kind of the spirit carried with them as
(24:02):
they split off into pettiness, rivalry, and faux friendship.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
That's what the book.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Is, well, I mean, that's that's kind of continue with
those coaches, what.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Makes them go ahead. I got a question about Kyle.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, I was just going to ask what the coaches
you just mentioned, Mike, what makes what makes them different?
If I'm Bill Belichick, if I'm maybe Mike Tomlin or
you know Andy ree Wama, Like, hey, why are you
all those any young guys? What about me? What about us?
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Well, obviously there are other great coaches, and there are
other innovators. I think a difference with these guys is that,
you know, for so long things were just kind of
passed down. We run the Bill wall system because it's
the system that's always worked, and you learn that and
you kind of you can tweak it, but you kind
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of figure out how to find players who fit into that.
These guys were more open to questioning everything, to tearing
it all up, and they wanted to know why everything,
you know was. They wanted to know the purpose behind
everything they did, and they wanted their players to know
the purpose, which is fairly, you know, different than how
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football has been for a long time. So uh yeah,
you know, obviously there are a lot of other really successful,
good coaches out there. I would just say that fitz
Crew has a little bit different ethos and is a
little bit more likely to just you know, question the whole.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Thing I want to question Kyle Shannan. Oh boy, Now
I got an issue with Kyle Shanahan because he has
blown some of the biggest playoff games. I mean, help me, Mike.
First of all, the Super Bowl where you're up twenty
eight to three and Julio Jones makes a great catch
(25:51):
to put you in field goal range and you just
got to run the ball three times kick a field goal.
You're up by eleven. Brady doesn't beat you, and he
asked people throwing passes, holding sacks and then gave up
a Super Bowl to Patrick Mahomes. They're running the ball
well the whole game. Then they start throwing the ball
in the fourth quarter. We've seen fourth this year that
(26:15):
two fourth quarter collapses. I mean, at some point Kyle's
got to punch his ticket. How much of the blame.
I mean, the numbers are ridiculous at one point, and
I could be off one. But like his three playoff games,
he was outscored fifty three to nothing in fourth quarters.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Well, the book begins in with Kyle Shanahan's mindset in
that Super Bowl against the Patriots when he was with
the Thumps. Now, I will say that he was not
the head coach.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
He was, Yeah, but he was making the play calls there.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
But I know a lot of offensive coordinators who'd like
to do a lot of things that they get overruled
by their head coach in those situations. So I think
it's a little bit bizarre to not put that on
dan quidn But yeah, he's got that stigma. Edie knows it,
and it's been brutal because they had the ten point
(27:09):
lead midway through the fourth quarter of Super Bowl fifty four.
Speaker 15 (27:13):
Against the homes of the Chiefs.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
They had a ten point lead midway through the fourth
quarter of that twenty twenty one NFC.
Speaker 15 (27:21):
Championship that your referenced, and they had a ten point
lead earlier against the Chiefs in this last Super Bowl.
You know, they also were down twenty four to seven
to the Lions at halftime of the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
This pot Yes, I'll had to give you credit when
the Lions hadn't won a playoff game. So Dan Campbell
was Moby Dick was a guppy, and Dan Campbell bailed
him out. More the issue than anything Dan kempbll No, Mike,
did Dan Campbell bail him out?
Speaker 8 (27:50):
I mean certainly you could make the case that Dan Campbell,
you know, allowed them a better chance to come back.
And you know, I personally wouldn't have called it that way.
I know a lot of people say, well, that's the
same Dan Campbell that got them there, and I understand
what they're saying, but yeah, personally, I think, you know,
(28:11):
he overdid that. But you know, you guys seemed super
eager to litigate.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
No, no, no, that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It's me listen, let's go let let's go forward.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I don't want to it's so good we could no, no, no,
I don't want time to run out.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I want I want to know.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
I covered all these games, I know them really well,
and it's certainly fair to litigate all of them. I
wrote a whole book about a group and how they
got there and what their deal is, and there's a
lot of messiness in there and a lot of failures
to go along with the successes. So I'm really proud
of the work. I think it'll make people entertain It
(28:50):
will entertain them and make them smarter. But I just
you know, I probably should have prepared my uh defense
civil little bit better before I face the inquisition.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, you know, if you come on the odd couple,
then no, especially when you know when Rob has a
guy he doesn't like.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
We got to hear never hear the end of it now.
I know, yeah, no fluff the real stuff on this show.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
But anyway, let me ask you this last thing we
want to know about real quick.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's just about the forty nine ers and where they are.
And they've had a couple of games they've blown at
the end, where are they on and flux here?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I know they've had injuries and they're missing some pieces,
but these are games that they.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Easily should have won or could have won, and they
didn't win them. And Brock Purty is he the guy?
Speaker 8 (29:34):
I do think Brock perty is the guy. But they Yeah,
they've blown two games, brutal games against the Rams and Cardinals,
and you know, we just assumed that things carry over
from year to year.
Speaker 12 (29:46):
And you know, they've been four.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Of the last five NFC championship games. They got a
lot of really good players, but I wonder how good
they actually are because good teams don't blow two games
in you know, a three game stretch and point of
the season, and you know, I think it's they've had
bad vibes all off season. It's hard to come back
(30:08):
from losing a super Bowl. They had holdouts with a
hold out with Trent Williams, a hold in with Brandon Ayuk.
You know, a guy got shot. Luckily, he's shame that
was their first round draft pick, and it's just it
just felt a little off and the injury stuff has
caught up to them someone And obviously McCaffrey is a huge,
(30:30):
huge deal, But I don't know how much of it
is they're not play well and how much of it
is they're just not as good as we think. We're
going to find out more tomorrow when they play the
Seahawks in Seattle. That would put them back at a
time for first place in a very bad division. But
I do think bruck Purty is that guy. I think
(30:52):
it's hard for people to get over the draft position,
but both the way he plays and the temper that
I know he looks like a kid who just went
to econ class at Iowa Stay. But he's kind of
a stone cold killer, and I think he will continue
to elevate and that gives them a chance to maybe,
(31:13):
you know, survive this seeming end of the window and having.
Speaker 15 (31:18):
To pay him and what's going to happen to the cat?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
All right?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Right, well, Mike, we appreciate you. In other words, the
NFC's best team is the Lions, is what I heard.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That's what Mike. We'll have your back on man. Thank you.
All right, that's all we need to hear. Mike.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
We appreciate you. Make sure you check out his book.
It is out now. The Why Is Everything? A story
of football rivalry and revolution. We can already tell WHI
chapter Robb's Gonna get stuck on and nine off Fox.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Is the phone number eight seven seven ninety nine off Fox.
If you want to get on talk. We want to
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We're about to get to all your trash talking.
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It just a bit.
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Speaker 1 (32:35):
All right, you still can get in eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six
sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right, let's get it going. It's time for trash talking.
Don't talking about me.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It's trash talking Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
You see te Dregy. I don't know whether to smile.
Lets you kick a field goal man? All right?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Now, remember Kelvin, you can't push back, so you just
gotta just take it.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
All right, Here we go, Matt in Washington. You're on
the op. They got far to have my last album?
This is all bad. Who you trashing?
Speaker 12 (33:09):
Matt oh not Los Angeles?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Said that again? He's Matt in Los Ange, Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Okay, okay, sorry, I'm trashing Kelvin Washington.
Speaker 16 (33:21):
This whole jet thing.
Speaker 12 (33:22):
Wouldn't it better work out?
Speaker 16 (33:24):
Have you been watching him to put out?
Speaker 11 (33:26):
Now?
Speaker 8 (33:27):
Rob is right on.
Speaker 16 (33:28):
This one listen to Rob. He's a fountain of knowledge.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
That thanks Matt. Oh appreciate it, Matt, thank you for
the call.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I think he I think he put it in Washington
because he's probably like, so excited I'm trashing Calvin Washington.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
He was like, he's at the location Washington.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
It's all good, Matt, we heard you. Did you hit
a fountain of information?
Speaker 9 (33:50):
Man?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
How much did you venmo him? No, not at all?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? How about Mace
in San Diego?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio? Who you
rasgim Mays?
Speaker 16 (34:04):
The nineteen ninety eight Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Nineteen ninety eight Atlanta the dirty Birds.
Speaker 16 (34:10):
Or that stupid dirty for dance the players did and
the scoring every time they scored a touchdown. That dance
was so stupid, you won't look like a bunch of clowns.
I hated that dance so much that I was happy
to see that I'd lose the Broncos in the Super Bowl.
This dance is so stupid. It isn't running for stupidest
dances the nineties, next to the Marcarina dance with the
song Marcarina. Not like I took up a lot like
(34:31):
he Hi, I freaking hate that stupid dance man, stupid
song that was played at nausea and back in ninety
six and ninety seven. Here's the idea. There needs to
be an Internet poll for stupidest dances the nineties. Between
the both of you, we are gets the most votes
for stupidest dance we received very egregious punishment. The first
punishment will be a front row seats an exclusive viewing
of the director's cut version of Broke Back Mountain. Subsequently,
(34:52):
oh up up a variety of Brazilian wax stuff in
both Rosie, O'donnald and Lizzle.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
My goodness, Gray, this man, I mean, I'll stretch it
out though. What thank you for the call. I'll see
you in there, BeFAN, get moving to Hey, uh here
we go? Hey? The odd couple high? Yeah, a little thing?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, Sean, Sean and Sacramento. You're in the couple of
fox boys wading Who your tragic?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (35:29):
Myucle from another mother cousin killing my brother's behind the boards.
You know I gonna trash you, Rob Parker?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
What yeah?
Speaker 14 (35:35):
How dressing the entire nation on the challenge of Sunday
Night had Jonas knocks looking like a boven is a
one dressed all the time. How dare you wear those
expoots of Jordan's how dare you cop the young boy pants?
And how dare you come with that designer jacket?
Speaker 7 (35:51):
Man?
Speaker 14 (35:52):
And then to call on the odd couple the next
day talk about pace seventy dollars for a hundred dollars,
pass economy at rossy in my feelings, like look, no,
no denying my man's greatness, killing the game. Keep doing
what you're doing, uncle, my man.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
That was the nicest trash talking I ever heard my life, Sean.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
But he's just trashed me for like showing up everybody else. Hey, no,
you did you?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Hey listen, I'm gonna let listen to people are continuing
to learn your boy. You know, I keep telling y'all,
I'm a realist. And I told you you were fly?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Did I not? You did? No? No, No, you gave me
you were flying.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
You had on your Migo pants, all that you had
on your Migo joints, you had on the jacket.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I told you I would definitely rock the jacket. So
the wait a minute, Alex, you got a trash Rob Parker,
And I was just inspired by Sean and Sacramento. Can
I go get off?
Speaker 9 (36:37):
I would like to trash the Robert Parker because number one,
how is it that he gets to make his employees
calling in trash people and then use it against himself
in a positive manner and then we sit you We're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
This was the nicest trashalgy cause he's on the payroll.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
You can't have your people calling it trash you. It's
not fair.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Wait a minute, because am I throwing a flag on
the play right now?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Because Seawan walked at em be bro dot com? Man,
hold up? What what in.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
The jacket gate? Do we have a cool jack? We
have a migo pants gate?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Right now? What I am?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
So?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I didn't Callay Roger? Throw the whole show away, Rob G.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Sean has been a long time caller before he went
on the staff of MLB.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Brow the whole show away. Give me your phone right now.
Let me see if you text Sehn text let's see No,
that's nothing. Let me see you nothing.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
To go to Instagram, d M.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Throw the whole show away? You over here that and
make sure you trash me, but don't really trash me.
Make sure you give me a compliment. That's why I
make sure and the other guy. I know you didn't
really watch the NBC challenge, but make sure you talk
about my offen.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And I also text Mike about trashing you. Yeah, just
set me up. I've been set up.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Trash my sheet, our number three stick and stay to
pay you America
Speaker 16 (38:00):
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Also in about twenty eight minutes, Mike Silver from the
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It's in stores now, so we'll talk to him.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Did he send us on, rob g send us some
books you know I'd like to read if.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You want, when we'll get you going? All right?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, I need uh, let me see how many people
on the show. One two?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
I need baby oil that and four books for Christmas.
Gonna mess the pages up.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
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Speaker 2 (01:15):
That's all right. Hey, there's a rhyme or reason you
ever hear rubber gloves. I'm just sayd hold that all right?
Hit me with a hold. All right, here we go.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Uh it is the odd couple of Rob Parker kelvin Washington.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
That's right, gee, what is your what is your mission
in life? As a job description? In order number two?
Make the show good? Number one with a bullet make
sure Rob does not get fired exactly exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
That is number They told me they're like have fun.
But by the way, make sure he don't give number one.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
That's right, Alex, you know that's your job too. I
don't know how I still have a job. That's right.
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have an issue with the Jets who haven't won anything
since Moby Dick was a guppy that the idea that
they would give a future Hall of Fame quarterback any
(02:22):
say on honest, I don't need your I'm just telling
you this is your qualifiers. This is what you're saying
because I'm trying to make sense out of it.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
What I'm saying is, and I've been saying, is that
this has been ever since Aaron Rodgers has come. It
went from a team that wasn't good. We all knew
that who actually probably overachieved being seven to nine a
couple of seasons ago was Zach Wilson and all that
and ended up winning some more games last season, more
than you thought. Listen, Robert sala is not a guy
(02:53):
that you're gonna write home to be like, hey, this
guy's have to be a head coach for a decade.
But there was some stability on the defensive side. They
weren't as great as they had but they're still solid,
still keeping them in games. But once Aaron Rodgers came,
and I get it, Listen, I'm not even mad at it.
You have a chance to bringing Aaron Rodgers to a
team that had a great defense at the time of
the signing makes sense. But all that has come with it,
and this is what happens when you go and you
(03:15):
put everything, all your eggs in this one basket. He
wants to do everything his way, bringing my guys, bringing
my offensive corner and begging this. He wants zero accountability,
He want everything.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
He wants zero. Every week, every.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
He threw the three interceptions, but every week he said,
he said it, all of a sudden, you have to
admit the ball everything has begun to unravel. Where it's
every week is your two and three and there are
other two and three teams that are less dramatic. Every
no something but the offensive line of cadence. We're talking
about Garrett Wilson doing this. Aaron Rodgers didn't like that.
(03:51):
And if then you hack it, he's got his he's
got his other toil over his head.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They don't ohe Me and Sola are good. We don't
have to necessarily. I think it's too early for.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Hugs, Like every week is a thing, and it's tiring,
it's exhausting, and he ain't playing good enough to warrant that.
It's not like he's Lamar Jackson bring a bunch of druma.
You're like, well, shoot, you know what you can drama
all you want. You can be a Telenobeva, you can
be a soap opera, you can bring all the drama.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Because boy is balling out here. That's not the case.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
And so Roberts Saler firing was inevitable because everything is
not looking, it's falling, it's not great, it's chaos.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Somebody got to go.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
And their whole entire identity right now is Aaron Rodgers.
So he's not going anywhere. So obviously Robert sala had
to be the fall guy. And again I'm not saying
he's Bill Belichick, Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, whoever you want
to throw in there, but I'm saying this is what
they've now created with Aaron Rodgers, and they got to
ride this thing out and come another two months. They
better hope it worked because if it continues to be
(04:44):
cast and this fault, his fault, this offense is bottom
of the third, bottom of the NFL.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Right now, what do you do next? What do you
do next season? What do you mean you're not worried about?
Worried about next season? And number one, here's where we
part company is that Aaron Rodgers should get some credit
and credibility in coming in as a guy who has
won a Super Bowl, who has won a Super Bowl MVP.
You could sit here and go, well, he didn't win
(05:10):
two or whatever it is. Dan Marino didn't win.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
A super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Okay, there's a lot of great quarterbacks that never won
a Super Bowl. He did win a Super Bowl, he
did win a Super Bowl MVP, and he won four MVPs.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
In this league. It ain't like everybody has four MVPs. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
So if a guy's gonna come in to a more
bond franchise that hasn't won jack since nineteen sixty nine,
I am going to listen to that guy more so
than a head coach who can't get it right and
hasn't been able to get it right and will probably
never ever ever get another head coaching job.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
So, yes, it's a bumpy start. They better hope it works.
No what I'm saying, No.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Would you say they better They ever't won anything. If
it doesn't work, it will be that it was on
the Jets.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So he can't sand the fact that I never win.
Just be happy I never win a game.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
When I gave you the keys to the King, I
gave hered example.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
He didn't bring in his own head coach Robert Bate.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Manning had almost the exact same thing as you just said.
Super Bowl title, bunch of MVPs. Same kind of guy,
I think. Obviously, I think he's had a better career
than Aaron Rodgers, but I absolutely get the same thing.
He goes to Denver, they ball out, the first year,
ball the heck out, make it all the way to
the super Bowl right then the next year they go
back or whatever it was, the next year they go.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
To super Bowl, and obviously they go to the Super Bowl.
Up was the first year with him they went. He
went to three. One. He went to two super Bowls
with the Broncos. No he went with he went to two.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
So probably he didn't bite many go to two super
Bowls with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
No he went, he went with thank you two.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
He got smacked up the first time, but the leaves
went boom, Seattle leeds in the boom, and then he
beat Carolina.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
But I thought until he went to four super Bowl
didn't he go Yes? Okay, so I thought with the
coach and.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
One with By the way, notice a trend that great
goes a bunch of Super Bowls. Your boy just can't
see to get back. And that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
But till but the difference is, go look at his
numbers in the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
What he had.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Oh no, he was winding. I agree, okay, and this
he got benched. That one thing I'm a huge to
being realist. He ain't win. That, you ain't never gonna here.
He was an ad on and that one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I'm not gonna act like he was out there looking
like you know, Steve Young or Joe Montana in the
Super Bowl. But I'm just simply saying, your brother keep
kept getting there, and I need Aaron Rodgers. It doesn't
make sense to talented to not get back. And and everybody,
including the Jets, was saying, man, with this team, this defense,
these weapons, he gets here, this should work now, to
be fair, because a brother always tries to be fair,
(07:44):
give him some time, maybe this thing can work out.
But I just find it crazy that all this chaos
every week is something else. Every week is the Cadies. No,
and the cats is fine?
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Gary Wilson off, Gary Wilson saying what's wrong with the offense?
It was, it's worse now than it was. My first
couple of seasons in the league and it's everything else.
It's everybody else except who is there trying to dominate
this thing. So that's what all I'm saying is you
have major bed. Aaron Rodgers is laying all a bit.
It may did it better work.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Out, but it doesn't make when when you say it
better work out, what is the alternative?
Speaker 2 (08:16):
They don't have an alternative. Let me let me get
my pointon.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
This isn't a franchise that has done anything right for
forty years. So if it doesn't work out, this will
be the Jets as who they are because they brought
Brett fav in and it didn't work with Brett Farr.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
What do you have to say about Brett fak It
was better than this. He went there. They were eight
and three, no, and then they lost, and.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Then they lost the rest of the year and didn't
even make the playoffs. They started eight and three and
didn't they noticed.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
You notice the common trick, You notice the common Trenck
stop bringing in forty some year old. No, but my
stop bringing in forty some year old. That's exactly what.
So you say, what can they do? You don't drive
Zach Wilson. Find nobody was screaming for Zach Wilson. That's fine,
that guy jets. So I'm saying they better find a
way to make a change. And I'm not even mad. Again,
keep in mind, what I'm saying is in life, all
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of us have done this. Whether it's a relationship, whether
it's a sports team. You made your bed. You're all
in with this. And that's why I'm saying it's better
work because now it's just another year behind the eight ball,
another year when you let people go, another week where
your star receiver ain't happy, another year for the defense
talking about the star receiver was happy last year when
Zach Wilson was get on the quarterback. You know, Garrett Wilson,
(09:29):
he said the offense is worse. That's scary if you're
telling me my offensive robby won seven games last year,
and and Garrett Wilson literally said that his offensive routes
and the things that, you know, it's worse.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Than was happy last year that they won. SI, I'm
saying it's worse than it. They won games. Come on, man,
you better you better get to seven this year. Please,
you better get to seven.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think we're gonna hold on Alex Holless tape, because
when they win the division, we'll go, we'll revisit this,
and then you'll look and say, what was I talking about?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
How?
Speaker 1 (10:00):
How was I defending Roberts Wings on the right.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Now you know that Buffalo Bills are winning the division.
You said they won't win seven games?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
No, you hurt me.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
The Buffalo Bills will win the division.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You can bet wings on it.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
The division is up for grabs, true, and they have
a chance. Buffalo's not the team we just Buffalo is
not the same team. Everybody where your mouth. I said,
it's a bet, y'all Clockett Buffalo Bills. Buffalo Bills will
win the division real quick.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
Before you guys stamp it, Rob, give you one chance
to back out it.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
I'm not backing out of it.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Since nineteen seventy and I don't want ralfs Wings. Since
nineteen seventy, how many teams that fired their coach mid
season went on to make the playoffs that year?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Five? Zero? Are you sure?
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Okay, this is not mid season. This is five games
in and then one game out of the quarterpo. Okay,
so now.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Said nineteen seventy, that's a long time, Rob.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
But that's another Usually when they fired coaches, they're on
five or what this is not that?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
And now no one think since nineteen seventy they've had
coaches who were two and three.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
No, no, not the team ahead of you, Okay, we
just talked about it. The team ahead of you is
one game ahead. Miami has no quarterback, Miami's out of it. Agreed,
if they win month, this is how quickly they win
Monday they were in first place.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
You know they gotta keep winning, right, No, no, no,
band gotta just win Monday.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
They got to keep winning.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
How many coaches of those who got fired, okay to
the nineteen seventy who got fired went to first place
after winning their first game?
Speaker 2 (11:36):
How many zero?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
And that's what I'm saying that it's set up that
you can turn this around because the degree of difficulty
is it like far? Like right now, I'm if they
were owing five, rob g then I would agree with them.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Of course you would on five.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Oh, and this is what makes it better because you
actually feel like there's a chance. This is full on
Second City moment right now. I bet this is full
I'll bet you three. This is how I feel like
you're right now twenty like you're typing in your phone
thirty to twenty.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Do me and Alex get any of these wings you
want to get in my betting with you get just saying, guys,
I'm here as you're getting thirty wings.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Of course I'm sharing. I don't want to see rob
all thirty of me and my wings are not coming
from Ralphs, y'all. Now I might buy you Ralphs twenty
rings because that's you're.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Okay with That's all right. Ralph was all right with me.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Shout out to Ralphs for my groceries, not my wings
for me to be eating in the moment. Matter of fact,
let alone your ribs. But yeah, so I like a
little Louisiana rubb. Couple of lemon peppers. Can you give
them a mile? Can you clue them in?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
When Chris Bussaw went to try on the Jordan's when
we had our uh Nationals Dodgers bet, Chris Busan had
to nerve the Dodgers were up two oh, he went
to foot locker to try on the Jordans that he wanted. Okay,
you know the Nationals cats back in one you pick
that's that that that's a bull pick that's much bolder
(12:56):
than that was. I gave you that one more than
this one. And he went to try his jordings or
had the nerve to go to the store and let
me know that he won't try them more.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
He's probably sick about that right now if like Elijah,
clip that so we can just remind him right now.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
He ain't want to drop to your knees.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
That's right, yes, no doubt about, no doubt all right,
coming up next, this is you, this is me right.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, k dub keeping it real. It's some things we
got to keep it real about. I'm doing it for
the people, and we'll be doing that coming up. I
gotta break down some things. Hey, listen to people, listen
to your boy. I'm gonna keep it real and take
yield my advice please.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And of course Mike Silver is coming up as well
in about fourteen to fifteen minutes, and it's a trash
talking Tuesday. You'll have a chance to trash anyone anything
in the world of sports. You'll get the line up
at the bottom of the hour. It is the odd
couple on the trash Talking Tuesday, Rob Parker Kelvin Washington,
who was going to be big time wrong going forward.
Speaker 9 (13:56):
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Speaker 3 (14:04):
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Speaker 2 (14:15):
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Speaker 4 (14:17):
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Speaker 2 (14:31):
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we're heading towards four weeks, and was like, man, I gotta,
you know, bring a little something something to the show.
So I want to do something. We'll start in his call.
Kate's keeping it real and it would be like sweet
to have stuff. This is week one. You know what I'm saying.
(15:17):
I hear Rob g I kind of lay like, Yo, that's.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Exactly how real is it?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Rob?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
It's so real? It's okay? Is that in?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Now?
Speaker 4 (15:26):
So we know Game two. One thing we all love
about sports rivalries. We love some trash talking, even us
what we do. You love some passion to be into it.
And we see that with the Padres, we see that
with the Dodgers, and that's what you want, right. You
got Machado Flaherty going into it, you got players doing this,
you got players going at it with the fans. But
one thing you never want to see is when fans
(15:48):
start throwing things at players on the field. Had a
chance to talk to my man, Jerry Harrison Junior, of course,
with Sports in La out here in Los Angeles covering
the Dodgers. He joined my show with Spectrum News one
earlier this morning. This is what he had to say.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
We can't have the incidents that we had in Game two.
We can't have.
Speaker 10 (16:04):
Certain individuals starting to throw baseballs on the field at players.
That can never happen in any environment at any stadium,
but certainly not Dodger Stand.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
We can't have that.
Speaker 11 (16:16):
We want energy, we want passion, we want that place
to be allowed environment. But you never want to see
fans start throwing things on the field that can't happen.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
So let me keep it real with you. I love
sports just as much as you. I love sports just
as much as you, Rob Parker. But one thing I
also am, and as are you and Rob g and
Alex and even Brian. We're all men. And if we
were out there playing a sport man and you threw
something at me, I got some major issues with you.
And I'm always dumbfounded at people that feel as if
(16:48):
they paid their money. Now I have the right to
throw something at you. Now I have the right to
say some wild stuff. And you can get wild as
a fan. You can talk trash and nobody's against that.
But if you saw what they were throwing down to
the pull bullpen, that was crazy, Rob, That wasn't one
person who was drunk and one person through something. That's
what we initially thought, because you know, we're seeing it
live in real time. But as those videos starts circulating
(17:10):
on Twitter and you start to see different angles, man,
they got that.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
They took it way too far.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
And the thing I hate about this is they have
now created it where if you're reacting as an athlete,
you're the bad guy. You're in an intense situation, passionate,
putting your all into this thing, literally blud sweat and tears,
and somebody who paid ninety nine to ninety nine is
sau stuff and they get to throw something at you.
It's absolutely crazy, that's absolutely acidine. And in fact, the
(17:35):
fans fight over men and tights. Why are you fighting
over men?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Tize?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Guess who Mooie Best doesn't know you, guess who Manny
man Chado don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
You Go enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Be loud, lose your voice from screaming, be passionate, throw
popcorn in the air all you want, but don't throw
stuff at players. Don't throw beers at'reu on our test
laying on the scoreboard. Don't and don't be in there
all of a sudden trying to fight Rob G and
I want to bring our girls to the game. We
got to maybe not bring our girls to the game
because you're gonna be fighting people just because you're drunk
and sau stuff. I've never understood it. I don't get it,
(18:07):
and I actually am blown away. Actually, how many players
are levelheaded enough to not actually run to the stands.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Well they have to be because they're the professionals. And
I know it sounds like it's unfair, but it's not.
Because they represent more, they have more to lose. You
cannot react or overreact listen to what people are doing. No,
I'm listening. I would you know, I've seen these things happen,
and I get it. You could be a grown man
and all that, but you're the only one who's gonna lose.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Not But I might be sir Chuck and throw somebody
through a window and then be like, hey, my bad,
there was a smudge on that window, Chuck, there was
a snug.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I was trying to clean it up his shirt. He
had a sweater on. It looked like it could have
been a sponge. No, no, no, But I'm that serious, Like
I get what you lose that's without a doubt. But
I just don't represent there. It is fair because they
have they have a bigger responsible they do from some
drunk fan.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
They're not drunk, you know, like you're trying.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
To say, as a person who's not a heavy drinker
who rarely needs, y'all got to relax with this.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
That person's drunky. So don't go to the game against
just not what I'm saying. But you're sober.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Okay, you're sober on the field playing and you're not
gonna match the reactions or the actions of somebody who's
liquored up or drunk.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Not what I'm saying, No, no, no, I okay what you're saying.
You're so listening to me. I know, I'm so.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Out parking at kelvin Washington. This is our first month
doing this show. And as we grow and we keep
getting bigger and we go places. Please believe somebody throw
a beer at you. I got you. You ain't even
gotta blink. I'm Steven Jackson to your our test. Okay,
I'm just not.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
I'm not built like that, and I'm an extraordinarily rational
level head of guy. You know me but I'm just
blown away that thirty forty fifty year old men, mostly men,
but women to get to act like.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
They fight in the stands with each other. I mean,
what games have you not? Have you not seen videos
of people?
Speaker 4 (19:59):
And I'm blowing That's why I said, y'all fighting over
men and tights is the most craziest thing to me.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I don't know you exist, I've seen people fighting.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
One of the worst fights I ever saw was I
was at a Mets playoff game many.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Years ago that's already starting, okay.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
And there was not an It didn't even have anything
to do with baseball. One guy was wearing a Ranger jersey.
I'm talking about New York Rangers hockey jersey. The other
three guys are wearing Islanders jersey. This is at a
baseball playoff game, okay. And the guy in the Ranger
jersey says, yells at the three guys the Islanders suck.
(20:40):
They got They beat the guy to a pulpe in
two seconds.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
And that's my point. That is crazy. It was that
a baseball I'm like, what, and that is.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Crazy that you then tell me, well, just because they
were saut up this I said.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
I said the players. I know what you said. Players,
you don't win. That's it real.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
I'm keeping it real. And if somebody ever I got
your back row, I'm Steven Jackson. Okay, that's just crazy
to me that grown men get to go act like
four year olds everything, Rob g And I tell our daughters,
don't do they get to go out there and do
it like they're not grown.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Keep it real.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
But if I I'm just telling you, it feels like
a three dollars you will, you better bail me out.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
I don't know about that. You better bail me out.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
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Speaker 4 (21:33):
He is Mike Silver, San Francisco Chronicle Columns and MILLIONI Well,
let's plug his book then it is called The Why
Is Everything? A story of football rivalry and revolution. And
in this book that was just released, the book focuses
on five current NFL head coaches that are considered to
be the new breed, and it's a cadre of cutting
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edge league bosses who are completely shaking things up and
performing the job of NFL head coach in ways and
manners that have never been done befo. I'll let him
also explain some more in just a little bit. Mike,
thank you for joining the show.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Mike, what's up?
Speaker 12 (22:06):
Thanks for having me. Guys, how are you doing well?
Speaker 8 (22:08):
Right?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
How are you?
Speaker 8 (22:10):
Oh? You know, living living to dream?
Speaker 13 (22:12):
Get ready to go up to Seattle for a little
Thursday Nights football, And yeah, here we.
Speaker 14 (22:19):
Are the season.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
Season doesn't really start till there's an abrupt head coach
in firing and the season has now officially begot Yes, please.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Tell us about the book, because I got some bones.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
To pick with Kyle Shanahan and all those guys you
have on there having one Jack and there's supposed to
be this new age NFL head coaches explained.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Please, mister Mike Silver, this is great.
Speaker 13 (22:43):
I love coming on and plugging with.
Speaker 8 (22:45):
He did also Sean McVay.
Speaker 12 (22:48):
I don't know if you knew this, but.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
He's in there. I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right,
you're right.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
The forty nine Ers dB dropped the interception that Matt
Stafford through Tim I'm sorry, I'm.
Speaker 15 (22:59):
Sad that's true.
Speaker 13 (23:00):
And then Kyle stan has obviously been to to Matt
Lafleur has been to two conference title games.
Speaker 15 (23:07):
He's now trying to.
Speaker 13 (23:09):
Get it done with young Jordan Love where he Morris
is three and two in Atlanta a second time around.
It took forever it being the NFL.
Speaker 15 (23:18):
But I'm really excited to see what he has going.
And then Mike McDaniel last year was.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Dropping seventy and taking knees.
Speaker 13 (23:25):
This year it's not going so great.
Speaker 15 (23:28):
And he's going to have to try to figure it out.
Speaker 12 (23:30):
But yeah, you know, all these guys were on that
Washington staff in the early twenty ten's under Mike Shanahan
and RG three showed up.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
They had to kind of innovate their way out of
a conundrum because his appearance was in the Pistol, and
you know, on the fly, they took their whole offense
and transported it to the Pistol and did something super revolutionary.
And that's kind of the spirit carried with them as
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they split off into pettiness, rivalry, and faux friendship.
Speaker 8 (24:08):
That's what the book.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
Is, well, I mean, that's that's kind of continue with
those coaches, what.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Makes them go ahead. I got a question about Kyle.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Yeah, I was just going to ask what the coaches
you just mentioned, Mike, what makes what makes them different?
If I'm Bill Belichick, if I'm maybe Mike Tomlin or
you know Andy ree Wama, Like, hey, why are you
all those any young guys? What about me? What about us?
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Well, obviously there are other great coaches, and there are
other innovators. I think a difference with these guys is that,
you know, for so long things were just kind of
passed down. We run the Bill wall system because it's
the system that's always worked, and you learn that and
you kind of you can tweak it, but you kind
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of figure out how to find players who fit into that.
These guys were more open to questioning everything, to tearing
it all up, and they wanted to know why everything,
you know was. They wanted to know the purpose behind
everything they did, and they wanted their players to know
the purpose, which is fairly, you know, different than how
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football has been for a long time. So uh yeah,
you know, obviously there are a lot of other really successful,
good coaches out there. I would just say that fitz
Crew has a little bit different ethos and is a
little bit more likely to just you know, question the whole.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Thing I want to question Kyle Shannan. Oh boy, Now
I got an issue with Kyle Shanahan because he has
blown some of the biggest playoff games. I mean, help me, Mike.
First of all, the Super Bowl where you're up twenty
eight to three and Julio Jones makes a great catch
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to put you in field goal range and you just
got to run the ball three times kick a field goal.
You're up by eleven. Brady doesn't beat you, and he
asked people throwing passes, holding sacks and then gave up
a Super Bowl to Patrick Mahomes. They're running the ball
well the whole game. Then they start throwing the ball
in the fourth quarter. We've seen fourth this year that
(26:15):
two fourth quarter collapses. I mean, at some point Kyle's
got to punch his ticket. How much of the blame.
I mean, the numbers are ridiculous at one point, and
I could be off one. But like his three playoff games,
he was outscored fifty three to nothing in fourth quarters.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
Well, the book begins in with Kyle Shanahan's mindset in
that Super Bowl against the Patriots when he was with
the Thumps. Now, I will say that he was not
the head coach.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
He was, Yeah, but he was making the play calls there.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Well.
Speaker 8 (26:48):
But I know a lot of offensive coordinators who'd like
to do a lot of things that they get overruled
by their head coach in those situations. So I think
it's a little bit bizarre to not put that on
dan quidn But yeah, he's got that stigma. Edie knows it,
and it's been brutal because they had the ten point
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lead midway through the fourth quarter of Super Bowl fifty four.
Speaker 15 (27:13):
Against the homes of the Chiefs.
Speaker 8 (27:15):
They had a ten point lead midway through the fourth
quarter of that twenty twenty one NFC.
Speaker 15 (27:21):
Championship that your referenced, and they had a ten point
lead earlier against the Chiefs in this last Super Bowl.
You know, they also were down twenty four to seven
to the Lions at halftime of the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
This pot Yes, I'll had to give you credit when
the Lions hadn't won a playoff game. So Dan Campbell
was Moby Dick was a guppy, and Dan Campbell bailed
him out. More the issue than anything Dan kempbll No, Mike,
did Dan Campbell bail him out?
Speaker 8 (27:50):
I mean certainly you could make the case that Dan Campbell,
you know, allowed them a better chance to come back.
And you know, I personally wouldn't have called it that way.
I know a lot of people say, well, that's the
same Dan Campbell that got them there, and I understand
what they're saying, but yeah, personally, I think, you know,
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he overdid that. But you know, you guys seemed super
eager to litigate.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
No, no, no, that's wrong.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
It's me listen, let's go let let's go forward.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I don't want to it's so good we could no, no, no,
I don't want time to run out.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
I want I want to know.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
I covered all these games, I know them really well,
and it's certainly fair to litigate all of them. I
wrote a whole book about a group and how they
got there and what their deal is, and there's a
lot of messiness in there and a lot of failures
to go along with the successes. So I'm really proud
of the work. I think it'll make people entertain It
(28:50):
will entertain them and make them smarter. But I just
you know, I probably should have prepared my uh defense
civil little bit better before I face the inquisition.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, you know, if you come on the odd couple,
then no, especially when you know when Rob has a
guy he doesn't like.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
We got to hear never hear the end of it now.
I know, yeah, no fluff the real stuff on this show.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
But anyway, let me ask you this last thing we
want to know about real quick.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
It's just about the forty nine ers and where they are.
And they've had a couple of games they've blown at
the end, where are they on and flux here?
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I know they've had injuries and they're missing some pieces,
but these are games that they.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Easily should have won or could have won, and they
didn't win them. And Brock Purty is he the guy?
Speaker 8 (29:34):
I do think Brock perty is the guy. But they Yeah,
they've blown two games, brutal games against the Rams and Cardinals,
and you know, we just assumed that things carry over
from year to year.
Speaker 12 (29:46):
And you know, they've been four.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
Of the last five NFC championship games. They got a
lot of really good players, but I wonder how good
they actually are because good teams don't blow two games
in you know, a three game stretch and point of
the season, and you know, I think it's they've had
bad vibes all off season. It's hard to come back
(30:08):
from losing a super Bowl. They had holdouts with a
hold out with Trent Williams, a hold in with Brandon Ayuk.
You know, a guy got shot. Luckily, he's shame that
was their first round draft pick, and it's just it
just felt a little off and the injury stuff has
caught up to them someone And obviously McCaffrey is a huge,
(30:30):
huge deal, But I don't know how much of it
is they're not play well and how much of it
is they're just not as good as we think. We're
going to find out more tomorrow when they play the
Seahawks in Seattle. That would put them back at a
time for first place in a very bad division. But
I do think bruck Purty is that guy. I think
(30:52):
it's hard for people to get over the draft position,
but both the way he plays and the temper that
I know he looks like a kid who just went
to econ class at Iowa Stay. But he's kind of
a stone cold killer, and I think he will continue
to elevate and that gives them a chance to maybe,
(31:13):
you know, survive this seeming end of the window and having.
Speaker 15 (31:18):
To pay him and what's going to happen to the cat?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
All right?
Speaker 4 (31:20):
Right, well, Mike, we appreciate you. In other words, the
NFC's best team is the Lions, is what I heard.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That's what Mike. We'll have your back on man. Thank you.
All right, that's all we need to hear. Mike.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
We appreciate you. Make sure you check out his book.
It is out now. The Why Is Everything? A story
of football rivalry and revolution. We can already tell WHI
chapter Robb's Gonna get stuck on and nine off Fox.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Is the phone number eight seven seven ninety nine off Fox.
If you want to get on talk. We want to
hear from Tuesday. It's next coming up next to to
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Speaker 3 (31:54):
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Speaker 4 (32:06):
And this dand E Fox Sports Radio The Odd Couple,
Rod Parker kelvin Washington. It is a trash Talking Tuesday.
We're about to get to all your trash talking.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It just a bit.
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Speaker 1 (32:35):
All right, you still can get in eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six
sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
All right, let's get it going. It's time for trash talking.
Don't talking about me.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It's trash talking Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
You see te Dregy. I don't know whether to smile.
Lets you kick a field goal man? All right?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Now, remember Kelvin, you can't push back, so you just
gotta just take it.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
All right, Here we go, Matt in Washington. You're on
the op. They got far to have my last album?
This is all bad. Who you trashing?
Speaker 12 (33:09):
Matt oh not Los Angeles?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Said that again? He's Matt in Los Ange, Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Okay, okay, sorry, I'm trashing Kelvin Washington.
Speaker 16 (33:21):
This whole jet thing.
Speaker 12 (33:22):
Wouldn't it better work out?
Speaker 16 (33:24):
Have you been watching him to put out?
Speaker 11 (33:26):
Now?
Speaker 8 (33:27):
Rob is right on.
Speaker 16 (33:28):
This one listen to Rob. He's a fountain of knowledge.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
That thanks Matt. Oh appreciate it, Matt, thank you for
the call.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I think he I think he put it in Washington
because he's probably like, so excited I'm trashing Calvin Washington.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
He was like, he's at the location Washington.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
It's all good, Matt, we heard you. Did you hit
a fountain of information?
Speaker 9 (33:50):
Man?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
How much did you venmo him? No, not at all?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? How about Mace
in San Diego?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio? Who you
rasgim Mays?
Speaker 16 (34:04):
The nineteen ninety eight Atlanta Falcons.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Nineteen ninety eight Atlanta the dirty Birds.
Speaker 16 (34:10):
Or that stupid dirty for dance the players did and
the scoring every time they scored a touchdown. That dance
was so stupid, you won't look like a bunch of clowns.
I hated that dance so much that I was happy
to see that I'd lose the Broncos in the Super Bowl.
This dance is so stupid. It isn't running for stupidest
dances the nineties, next to the Marcarina dance with the
song Marcarina. Not like I took up a lot like
(34:31):
he Hi, I freaking hate that stupid dance man, stupid
song that was played at nausea and back in ninety
six and ninety seven. Here's the idea. There needs to
be an Internet poll for stupidest dances the nineties. Between
the both of you, we are gets the most votes
for stupidest dance we received very egregious punishment. The first
punishment will be a front row seats an exclusive viewing
of the director's cut version of Broke Back Mountain. Subsequently,
(34:52):
oh up up a variety of Brazilian wax stuff in
both Rosie, O'donnald and Lizzle.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
My goodness, Gray, this man, I mean, I'll stretch it
out though. What thank you for the call. I'll see
you in there, BeFAN, get moving to Hey, uh here
we go? Hey? The odd couple high? Yeah, a little thing?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, Sean, Sean and Sacramento. You're in the couple of
fox boys wading Who your tragic?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (35:29):
Myucle from another mother cousin killing my brother's behind the boards.
You know I gonna trash you, Rob Parker?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
What yeah?
Speaker 14 (35:35):
How dressing the entire nation on the challenge of Sunday
Night had Jonas knocks looking like a boven is a
one dressed all the time. How dare you wear those
expoots of Jordan's how dare you cop the young boy pants?
And how dare you come with that designer jacket?
Speaker 7 (35:51):
Man?
Speaker 14 (35:52):
And then to call on the odd couple the next
day talk about pace seventy dollars for a hundred dollars,
pass economy at rossy in my feelings, like look, no,
no denying my man's greatness, killing the game. Keep doing
what you're doing, uncle, my man.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
That was the nicest trash talking I ever heard my life, Sean.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
But he's just trashed me for like showing up everybody else. Hey, no,
you did you?
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Hey listen, I'm gonna let listen to people are continuing
to learn your boy. You know, I keep telling y'all,
I'm a realist. And I told you you were fly?
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Did I not? You did? No? No, No, you gave me
you were flying.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
You had on your Migo pants, all that you had
on your Migo joints, you had on the jacket.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I told you I would definitely rock the jacket. So
the wait a minute, Alex, you got a trash Rob Parker,
And I was just inspired by Sean and Sacramento. Can
I go get off?
Speaker 9 (36:37):
I would like to trash the Robert Parker because number one,
how is it that he gets to make his employees
calling in trash people and then use it against himself
in a positive manner and then we sit you We're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
This was the nicest trashalgy cause he's on the payroll.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
You can't have your people calling it trash you. It's
not fair.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Wait a minute, because am I throwing a flag on
the play right now?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Because Seawan walked at em be bro dot com? Man,
hold up? What what in.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
The jacket gate? Do we have a cool jack? We
have a migo pants gate?
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Right now? What I am?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
So?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I didn't Callay Roger? Throw the whole show away, Rob G.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Sean has been a long time caller before he went
on the staff of MLB.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
Brow the whole show away. Give me your phone right now.
Let me see if you text Sehn text let's see No,
that's nothing. Let me see you nothing.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
To go to Instagram, d M.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Throw the whole show away? You over here that and
make sure you trash me, but don't really trash me.
Make sure you give me a compliment. That's why I
make sure and the other guy. I know you didn't
really watch the NBC challenge, but make sure you talk
about my offen.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And I also text Mike about trashing you. Yeah, just
set me up. I've been set up.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Trash my sheet, our number three stick and stay to
pay you America
Speaker 16 (38:00):
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