July 5, 2024 • 36 mins
Chris and Rob debate whether LeBron James being named the Team USA’s starting point guard is an indictment of Steph Curry. Plus, former NFL quarterback Shaun King swings by to discuss if Patrick Mahomes is easily the best quarterback in football, whether we can expect Mahomes to dominate for the foreseeable future, the idea that CJ Stroud isn’t as focused on football as he should be, his expectations for the Detroit Lions next season and much more! Later, the Odd Couple Crew debates hosted party time limits in this week’s edition of Shop Talk.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
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It's a funky flashback Friday. Sean King, former NFL quarterback.
You guys heard him filling in for Rob last week.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Did a great job. And Chris on Monday and Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, I'm off a couple of days next week and
off TV all week next week.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Next week.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, it's a dark week for us, and yeah, so
I'll be off all next week, but I will do
the eye couple of Wednesday Thursday, from.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm surprised you didn't take the full week. No, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know, it's interesting because we we are going to
my wife and I are going to go somewhere for
about three days. And then I told her. I was like,
you know what, we should have taken a whole week.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I was like, I want to staycation.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh, really, just want to stay at the house because
and I think you'll you'll understand this, Rob, I got
so much think so many things I want to do
at the house, you know, as far as getting things done.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But every time I'm off, I'm going on the trip. No,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
And it's like I don't have time to do it
and so and then you know, with the it's not
like I can do them on.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Work days just be because I do the team.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
No, No, I feel the same way. I've said this
all along. In order for me to fully catch up,
and you know, I got my hands on all these things, right,
I would need to take like two weeks off at
stay at home Chris and go through everything like real,
like real, I'm not even kidding you, Like two weeks
where I'm not leaving the apartment and I'm going through
(02:23):
stuff getting disorganized, you know what, Like there's just so
much because because along with doing a radio show, especially,
people don't understand like that the whole day I'm thinking about,
you know, the show, like it's a part of your life,
even though we're not on the air.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, in sports, you you got to read a lot,
keep up with a lot of watching stuff, You're talking
to people in the leagues. Yeah, so no doubt, no doubt.
So I'm looking forward to it. And you know, I've
got a couple of vacations coming up later this summer
family reunion and so you'll trip.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, so I'll take the radio days off then.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
But anyway, Rob, we talked Joe Varden last hour from
The Athletic. He had a great story on Team USA.
The men's basketball team is gonna try to win gold
again this year in Paris, and the main premise Rob
of the story was whether or not Lebron would come off,
(03:19):
possibly come off the bench, because Joe Varden was saying
that he feels like there's three definite starters. That's Kevin Durant,
the all time leading scorer for Team USA, Steph Curry,
the best shooter in the world and.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
By most people. I know, you don't consider him that.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And then Joe l embiid the you know, the big man.
Those were the three, I believe, rob G those were
the three he said, I believe, And so he was like,
he brought up Kawhi. I'm sorry, I don't think Kawhi
Leonard is starting over Lebron James. I don't even think
(03:57):
that's a question. And my thinking is Lebron's definitely starting.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Ain't no way Lebron's can we stop like I saw that,
I'm like, and he he ended up.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Lebron's probably gonna start or gonna start, but yeah, I mean,
just out of respect, this is less go around. Really,
I'm just I don't see that. Yeah, I mean, if
if like he was just which won't be the case,
but if he was just playing horribly or getting crushed,
maybe ultimately to win goal if they had to make
a move. But even if in situations like that, Rob
(04:32):
you still might start him.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
To not embarrass him.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But Haliburton, the backup point guard of somebody else plays,
you know what I mean, we're play more. I don't
think that's gonna be the case. I think Lebron will
play well. But yeah, so we both are in agreement
that he'll start, but I might. This is what I
think this starting five should be robbed. I think it
should be Lebron as you want to call him, point guard,
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whatever you want to call.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Him, Steph KD, Jason Tatum, and Joe l. Embiid. Now,
in the.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Feeble World Cup last year, they did get they were
getting beat up like they were too small, they weren't
rebounding well, and that was a different team obviously, But
if that proves to be the case as these games
are happening, then I could substitute Anthony Davis for Jason Tatum,
but I think that smaller lineup will be able to
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get it done. Tatum is a good rebounder, great rebounder
for a size. The Rant's a good rebounder obviously, Embiid
and Lebron is a rebounder. And so that's what I
think I would have the starting five ass And if
Steve Kerr wants to run any semblance of that Golden
State offense that led them to so many championships, Lebron
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could be in that Draymond Green role because you know,
when Golden State places Draymond is kind of like the
point guard, and Lebron could play that role obviously even
better than Draymond. And you got the shooters in Steph,
KD and Tatum and NBA obviously can shoot as well.
So I think that opens up that possibility for you
(06:17):
if you're Steve Kurr. But anyway, what do you think
of that and the notion of Lebron being the point guard?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Chris?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I think it's a huge indictment of this whole talk
that Steph Curry's the second best point guard of all time,
because there's no way if he was really considered that
would anybody be handling the ball other than him if
he's on this team. Hey, no way know how Magic
(06:45):
Johnson would be on a team in Lebron James is
handling the ball? Oh, Isaiah Thomas or John Stockton or
even Chris Paul.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You say he's not a point guard, Yeah, he's not.
That's why it's dramon the ball more than him.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
But I'm saying, but this is this is the argument
that he's the second best point guard ever?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Is a sham? Is a rules? Is fo gazy?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Steph Curry is not the second greatest point guard of
all time. If he was the second greatest point guard
of all time, Chris No matter if Lebron didn't have
a position or no matter if Lebron was on the team,
he would be handling the basketball, he would be running
the offense.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But it ain't the case. Steph is a wolf in
sheep's clothing. That's what he is. He ain't no point guard.
They just don't want to call him a two guard.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Right because then if you do that, then so is
Lebron a point guard or not?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
He's just better than Steph Curry guard.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But real talk rider No, but most of Lebron's career,
particularly in his prime, I know he's a point the
primary No, no, he was the primary ball handler.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He really, I mean, I don't call him a point guard.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But if we really talk about the way he plays,
if we want to define positions by how you play,
you are right we would call and I don't. We
would call Steph Curry a two guard. We would call
Lebron James a point guard. They just started Remember they
(08:24):
used to call Luca a small forward shooting guard.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Now he's just viewed as.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
A point guard because that's how he plays. So, I mean,
if you want to make that argument, to me, it's
not a big deal. Okay, So Steph's not the second greatest.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Point guard ever.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I think he actually is, because I do rank him
in the point guard category. But if you want to
move him to shooting guard, okay, so he's the third
best shooting guard ever. Difference, it's Michael Jordan number one,
Kobe Bryant number two, Steph Curry number three.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So you got Kobe ahead of Steph.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, because he was obvious the defense, so I would Yeah.
But I mean, to me, that's not a big deal.
I mean, but I think there are a lot of
players rob that we categorize them differently than they actually played.
I mean, Jokic in a lot of ways is the
(09:21):
Nuggets point guard. Now obviously he posts the heck Gary
Payton used to post up, Mark Jackson used to post up.
I mean they Jamal Murray is listed as the point guard.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
He ain't a point guard. He's a two guard. Yeah,
but that's fine. James Harden is.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I consider when I think about where James Harden ranks
robed like all time by position, I tend to categorize
him in the shooting guard category, although he's basically a
point guard. He's played point guard, you know, the whole
second half of his career and more and then some.
(10:01):
So I think it's you know, Steph. The reason I think,
one reason I think is Steph as a point is
because he can clearly play point. He played point for
Mark Jackson like today's point guards do high pick and roll,
and his numbers were great twenty four points, eight and
(10:21):
a half assists. You know, he was playing more like
today's point guards due But the genius of Steve Kerr
was that he said, this guy's like the best shooter
I've ever seen. Let me have him running off some
screens and stuff, and Clay running off some screens, and
Draymond can handle the ball and has a high basketball
(10:41):
IQ and can pass. Let me put the ball in
his hands. So I just, I mean, you know, if
you want carderguarize him as a two. And it's funny
I categorized Alan Iverson as a shooting guard. I don't
think of him as a point. So it's a lot
of players that kind of their positions get you know,
get mixed up because if they're doing a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I hear that, but I'm just saying, whenever you want
to deem somebody as the second greatest point guard of
all time, and then you put together this team with
all these all time greats and he's not in that role.
That that's the only thing that's my biggest pushback is
that these other guys, you couldn't shift anybody else around.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Uh the point. Yeah, I'm not a great not this second. No,
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I'm just not the greatest small. Is Lebron the second
best point guard of all times? Lebron's is the best
small for.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Und No, I'm asking you about point guard. You say him,
I don't categorize him as a point guard.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, he's playing with good If I did, I would
say he's I mean he he's not.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
He's a better player than no point guard.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, he played you just talked about it. He played
it most of his career. I don't know real did
I say that?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I think like Magic, Lebron is a better player than Magic.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Not a better point guard, but Magic was.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
A better point guard. Distributory right, Steph is a great passer.
But in that, in that, and he's a great ballhand,
Like he's a better ball handler than Lebron. I I
mean Lebron played point in a way that a lot
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not a lot of people did. He dominated the ball
and he scored a lot. And so I'm just saying,
if we're defining point guard is the guy that brings
the ball up, then Lebron Lebron did that for the
bulk of his career. But I like with Team USA,
and I said it to Joe Varden, I like putting
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him Lebron at point because he is a guy that
you know, loves to pass the ball. And when I've
got a ton of shooters on the team, that's what
I need. I need a guy that's gonna be primarily
be a passer. And then Lebron has turned himself into
(13:03):
a very good three point Shooter's not forty one last year,
So now when he's on the perimeter, if they leave him,
he can obviously drain the three. So I and look,
that's Joe's article. That doesn't Steve Kerr hasn't come out
and said that's.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
How we'll do it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I bet you when they named the starting five and
Lebron and Steph are in it, I bet they'll call
Steph the point guard.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And if if I don't know if it'll be my
starting five.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
But in that group, I probably he probably called Jason
Tatum the two guard, and Lebron a small forward or
power forward, and kd the small forward. Like I mean today,
a lot of these guys are somewhat positionless, so I
know you're trying to make a big You know.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
He ain't a point god, he ain't a point guard.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
This guy is falling. It's just an indictment of Steph Curry.
It's a shad.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He's not no.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I can best point guard of all time stopping with
that white.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Fox? Are you me airthing?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Are you with me?
Speaker 5 (14:09):
How dare you list them as a point guard on
Sports Reference Basketball Pro Basketball Reference dot Com?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
My goodness?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
How dare the Warriors Listen as a point guard in
their media guide?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What are we talking about? He's a point.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Guard that I got a three dollar bill in my wallet.
I'm just saying it's phony. As the high Heavens.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Week, Rob gave you the number eight seven, seven ninety nine.
O Fox, you'll turn away in Team USA, Steph? Is
he a point guarding the two guard? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Ah?
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Speaker 1 (15:31):
I gotta admit, Rob Mary, Mary is in the crates.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
She ain't playing the night all right. It's the eye
couple Fox Boy. He's only sixteen and she knows all
this all. Oh my goodness, I'm believing close to the sixteen.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Then you want to twenty one?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
All right? Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox I
turned the Way in. Rob thinks it's a big deal
that lebron uh I guess we'll handle the ball.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
More than Steph. Maybe we think in uh the Olympics.
Your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
All right, let's kick it off with MJ in New Orleans.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
M J?
Speaker 8 (16:17):
Going on back Friday?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
A little fat back jamming?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Right back then baby backstroking.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
You know what you need? Some of that bacon. Put
that bacon in the hamhocks.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Okay, let's do it. Oh, look at that pork kills?
What did you eat for the fourth?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
M J? Uh?
Speaker 8 (16:38):
The fourth?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yesterday?
Speaker 8 (16:42):
I put off some of them. Man, we we don't
do that.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Were you in Texas?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Is it New Orleans?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So no, you've never had you never had poor? Is
that what you're telling me?
Speaker 8 (16:56):
I haven't had pe?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Okay, but you've had poor? I could didn't kill you,
did it?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I don't remember rock is okay?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
All right?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You can have You know what I say when you
say you don't eat pork more for us?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I gave a.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Pork rob for about six months, once eight a piece
of bacon or something after that, and got aheaded right.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Got a headache, didn't Yeah, you're a muslim my brother.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Was a Muslim for a while, he stopped eat. You
don't eat port to this day. But is that why
you stayed up?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Now?
Speaker 8 (17:30):
I'm not not a muthering, but you know I've had
bean pies before and looking for being being positive.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Take christ you're from here and I eat a lot
of beer pies.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yes, certainly a go ahead. What you got step is.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
A combo guard. Thirty ninth in a sixth I think
that says at all, right, thirty ninth in the sixth. Uh,
this Olympic thing rocked on, Rob. When's your patriotic things?
Speaker 9 (17:58):
Come on?
Speaker 8 (17:58):
You want you want the big you know Lebron You
know I want a six six foot nine point guard
this mass Come on, come on, you want that. Steph
is gonna be running around, that's what he do. But
Professor Chris, did you say that Lebron Jay was a
better player than Urban Magic Johnson?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Really?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean you you know I got him second all
time behind Jordan, So of course I Chris, Chris, No,
I mean you've heard me say that for six years
on this show.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
It just dawned on you that I think he's better
than Magic.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Well you said that, but I was like, probably we
were run the same age. I think I'm one year
older than you. Chris Okay, Magic skyhook baby hook champion,
well not even just championships.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I mean, don't don't act like the sky hook was
a part of his game.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I mean he did hit the junior junior skyhook to
win in the finals.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I know Magic could do.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
That, and Magic could have scored more than he actually did.
He could have scored a lot more, but he was
about it. He was really about the team. Magic is great.
I got Magic fourth, Magic is a great and Rob
got lebron.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I had the magic too.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
It maybe it didn't look a certain way, but magic. Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Why give us something money? And we got off off
Steph Curry. We were like off the track.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Rob wants you to rip staff. That's right. We got
to move on.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Thank you, Jay, all appreciated, buddy, Thank you Andre and Massachusetts.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drey,
how you doing?
Speaker 10 (19:37):
Thanks for taking the call. Listen to Rob. I agree
with you in terms of Steph Curry's characterization as a
point guard, He's really more of a combo guarden shooting guard.
He's not certainly not a past first point guard can't
be helped.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's kind of like Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
They played differently, but Kyrie would fall into that same group.
Although all time I would rank Kyrie as a as
a point guard.
Speaker 10 (19:57):
True, but he's never going to be in the top
five assists with the Jason Kidd, with the John Stockton,
with the Magic Johnson, just because of their size.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Who you're talking about, Yeah, their scores primarily, Yeah, Damian
Lillard doesn't get a ton of assists six seven, you know.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
So they're combo guards, you know, and they're just really
more undersized two guards. But to your point about Steph
Curry and you know, them trying to figure out how
they're going to make this rotation work. I think that
they have a lot of younger guys that are probably
gonna be the engine, the Anthony Edwards and the Jason Tatums,
and then you have the older guys who are not
their centerpiece players lebron K d Steph Curry. I'm sorry
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they're not the centerpiece of piece players.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I'm not so sure about that. I think they will be.
They will at least try to make them centerpiece players.
Now if they if they show they can't do it.
That's another thing. But don't you agree with that?
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like that they're they're thinking is that those three are
gonna be center police guys.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Would you agree with that? I think that they should
be right on those three. Who else would it be? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I mean I think Lebron Stephen kd are viewed as
kind of pillars on this team, not just for experience,
but just for you know, they can still play.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right, Sean, we had a corner kind of good
year last year. I'm just they all did. Yeah, they
all had a good year. Good years.
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Speaker 1 (21:26):
We welcome in former NFL quarterback you heard him all
last week. Came in, did a great job filling in
for Rob. We'll be here next week Monday and Tuesday
as well.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
It won't be as easy, you know this time, Sean.
I'm just saying, you know, you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Took some lumps. I mean everybody, he took some lumps.
I mean I was rough on him, all right, But
just coming back.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I just want you to know walking next week, all right,
cake walk.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
All right, sel never hear instead of a bun cake,
it's going to be a blunt.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I just want you to know that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Oh wow, oh maybe that's not the right All okay, whatever,
I'm gonna ask something.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
For you, Sean.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
First question, we were talking earlier in the show, who's
the best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It's Patrick Mahomes. Well, of course it's not an argument.
It's not a debate. Anybody that says otherwise it is
just trolling.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
That wasn't the argument the argument that you said. You
said that for the next eight years, nobody was going
to surpass.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
No, No, I say it right, Rogie. Was that you said?
It's not that was it? That was the argument you're running.
That's the argument that you said about Sean.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I'm still picking said what it was. It was nobody
for the next eight years is in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Not That's what Dick. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That was my point because he's miss mischaracter so you
get on the mic not but the topic. Look what
I said is this I said because because Tank Dale
said that CJ. Stroud could be the best quarterback in
the league could become that. I said, the best quarterback
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in the league is not up for discussion right now.
And for seanp for Patrick Mahomes, I said, I don't
think it's going to be up for discussion for the
next seven eight years. However, long is prime. Last I said,
the only way it could change is if someone CJ.
Stroud or someone else comes along and starts winning like
(23:34):
Patrick Mahomes and basically turns the Texans into a dynasty
like Mahomes did for Kansas City, and he needs to
start doing it now.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So that was the whole eight year thing. But but
go ahead, so.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Two things can be true. And just for context, I
was asked to rank the top thirty two quarterbacks in
the NFL, and I had CJ. Stroud in my top five.
So that's how high I am on Stroud. The problem
is Mahomes. Mahomes is twenty eight seven years from now,
he'll only be thirty five, and he's not a guy
that relies on running away from people. You know, he's mobile,
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but he's not an athlete been a quarterback, so statistically
you think he's gonna do the same thing everybody else
is playing catch up from a success standpoint. I mean,
whether he have three super Bowls on two MVPs, so
everybody else is playing catch up. So I just I
just think it's gonna be hard to surpass him while
he's still an active player. And I maybe CJ, you know,
(24:34):
five years actor Mahomes is done if he can win
a couple of championships for some of these young guys.
But but right now, it's just out a doubt Patrick
Mahomes and he's earned it because he's beaten all the
other top guys at some point.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, I think it's more than just that.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
It's a difference between being on the best team or
having a great coach. And his numbers last year they
were really up. His numbers were all down. So when
you talk about him, I get it. The ultimate goal
is winning it the Super Bowl, and you win that,
but they are all kinds of numbers to indicate that
they weren't that great last year offensively, and his numbers
he had the lowest passing yards.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
There's a lot of things that went on and during
the Mahomes zero.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Even when he won his first MVP and won the
Super Bowl, everybody thought, okay, well, he's gonna run the table.
Lamark becomes the unanimous MVP one year, and then Aaron
Rodgers at thirty seven, eight years old, wins back to back.
That's all I'm talking about. I don't see how anybody
could have a lockdown for eight years. That's my point.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
It's interesting because I think what makes the most recent
Super Bowl the most impressive is he did it minus Tyren.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, but he also had a great defense that helped
the last year.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well, most Super Bowl teams are complete teams. I mean,
when's the last time we saw a one sided Super
Bowl champ like to win it all in that league,
because it's the most parody of any professional sports league
in America. You got to have a complete team. For
the fact that if he had a complete team, that's
not a knock on Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
The fact, no, it's not a knock. It's just a
five all right, Nobody saying it's a knock.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
But you gotta admit the defense was pretty damn impressive
last year, and so.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Is everybody else has been the Rams defense. A couple
of years ago, when Stafford finally got his great defense.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Stafford threw a pick right on Q that was dropped
and his dad that.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't understand what
I was trying to argue. Are you saying to homes
isn't the best?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I'm saying that there's no way, There's no way he is.
He's on lockdown for the next seven or years. That
was the conversation, Lemar Jacks know, that was the conversation.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm not buying.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I did say that, but I'm saying that's what but
there's no lockdown for.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Eight years now. I'm not buying from it.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
You said, Lamar, all right, that's what you said. I
didn't hear it. But me and you're gonna have all
day money and too. I want to teach you some
valuable lessons business right now. Now. It's an argument for
whose second best, But it's a good argument because they're
all super talented and I think are on the customer
doing something great.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, I agree with you on CJ. I love CJ,
and I do want to see it for another year.
How good do you think he and the Texans will
be this year?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Or is it?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
You?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Guys the hard right hard.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
The hardest thing in that league is how you handle success.
I don't like that every event. CJ's added, he was
at Rick Rubins. Uh well, Michael, Michael Ruby, he asked me, having.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
A very festive summary, I will get.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
All overything. I mean, don't be afraid to go through
some passes and stuff on digs. But I'll say this,
the margins in the NFL are so small, like the
period in that league, guys from year to year. It's
if you haven't ever participated in it, you don't really understand.
Every game seems like it comes down to the middle
(28:02):
of the fourth quarter. Team's got maybe a touchdown different
and then a big third down if they don't converted,
the other teams got the ball with a chance to time.
So I mean the year before it looked like the
Bengals we the air apparent and then all of a
sudden Borrow gets hurt. So can the Texas take the
next step? We'll see. But that AFC is super competitive.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, that is the big issue.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Is I want to see year two as well, where
people weren't expecting anything from them and then all of
a sudden, you know what I mean, they got that.
No one will be taking them lightly as well, So
it'll be interesting to see. Speaking of how you handle
success is in the NFC North, are the Lions of
(28:45):
lock to win the division?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I don't think they are locked because I think once
Jordan Love kind of got his bearings and a lot
of people criticize to them for only like playing well
for half a season first year as a full time starter,
so he got better as the season went along. That's
normally how how that progression works. I mean, green Bay's legit,
(29:08):
they're talented, they're young, the athletic, Minnesota's got everything. But
I think a settled quarterback situation.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And and then and the Bears are going to be better.
I mean they're going to be better than they were.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
The one thing I would say about Detroit is the
head guy. It's not gonna let them get complacent. So
if they don't make it to the NFCY Championship next year,
next year, it's not because I think they were entitled
or they took anything for granted.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
He might he might be the reason why. He might
be the reason why with with some of the calls
that do what.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
You like about oh, well, I mean he's aggressive.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I mean there's aggressive, digressive, now there's aggressive, and then's
become a great coach. You know, there's aggressive and then
there's a mistakes being made.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I mean, I thought he cost them the Super Bowl.
I did, I thought he cost him.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I do want to say this. I think it's a
difference at times games between being aggressive on your side
of the field and just being silly, which is what
Staley from the Chargers used to do, right like where
he go for it on his own fifteen yard line.
You know what I'm saying talking about it was analytics,
like at least Campbell when he's aggressive, they're in scoring
(30:18):
position and instead of kicking off long field.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You remember the game they lost to Dallas last year.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
You remember that where they got that a penalty and
moved back and still went for like that.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I thought, now.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
That that's what I'm That's a bad coaching.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
That's bad.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
That still was inside his ten.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It's still you know, once you have the penalty, you
got to kick the field goal.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I agree. I was watching the game. I agree, But
I'm saying there's a difference to me between that and
what Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
In the NFC Championship game is team being shut out
twenty eight to nothing in the second half and he's
leaving field goals. I mean in the red zone, like,
oh no, not not putting any points on the board.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
That's what changed that game.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I don't think you can process those decisions after the
result because he's been that way the entirety of the year.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
No, he wasn't, and Sean, this is where this is.
Let me tell you, No, he wasn't. And let me
give you the example at the end of the first half.
He could have gone for it at the three yard
line the juggular and he didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
He took the field goal.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
So if he was aggressive in all those situations all year,
I would buy that.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
But he took the field goal. Why'd you take the
field goal there?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
You could have gone for you at the three yard line,
get thirty five points in the first half.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
He kicked the field goal. That doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So very very few times when it comes to coach's
decisions that you see absolute meaning, they were in this
situation thirty five times and they did the same thing
all thirty five times, my point being eighty five ninety
percent of the time. He's been and aired on the
side of being aggressive over the course of his tenure
as head coach of Alliance. All Right, that's what he say.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
If he is, you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Guys will have six hours this week to fussing five Sorry,
it'll be good. Have added get some rest this weekend. Sean,
have a great one and we'll see it month say
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Radio SEC when we talk about something happened outside of
the world is sports. This week's topic comes to us
from TikTok, where a mother of a young third grade
child went viral after she posted a video complaining about
the fact that she her daughter was invited to a
birthday party and on the invite, it said the party
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was gonna go from one pm to eight pm, seven
hours of hosting a group of second and third grade children.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
What kind of party is that?
Speaker 9 (33:16):
So here's the question, rob, whether it's kids or not.
If you're hosting a party, is there an appropriate time
frame or time limit for you as the host? Or
you say, hey, nine hours is cool, I'm hosting all night.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
What do you mean? I'm like, like, if.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
You say, hey, come over for a party, a barbecue
at my house time frame if you're a barbecue four hours,
four hours to me a birthday party, and you know what,
and you know what I do.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm not even kidding you.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I always make it for a shorter window because if
you make it too long, people will come, you know
what I mean, like way late, so quitz.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
If I say it's only gonna be three.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Hours or four hours, you really don't have time to
be like trying to come real late.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
And that's what And the same thing.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
When I do a barbecue, I'll talk about ribs. You know,
in the six o'clock hour, don't come and then go
there no more ribs. So I let people know. You
got to have a small window to make people come
on time.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
At your parties ride and you know, look, we just
let's just keep it real.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Have you ever had to deal with CEP time? What,
rob g? You mean you know?
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Did?
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I mean I have had seape time, colored people time.
It's it's it's a real thing in a.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Lot of them. No, And that's what I'm saying, Chris.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I've had birthday parties ride for my kids that start
at one and they come in there and we got people.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Coming at three thirds, right, it doesn't make we here
like the parties all right? Like yo, I mean so, but.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
You see what I'm saying about having a smaller window,
you know what I mean, like not give them, Yeah, at.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
The very least, if they do come late, it gives
It's like, yo, I told.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You it's one. I told you it's one to four,
you know what I mean. And if you come at three,
there's no food line.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Don't be mad, no food you got here at three o'clock.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I mean, I I don't I remember I had a
big barbecue one year where our family did and I
don't know it started at I guess two. Maybe people
came at two and you know, most people probably were
gone by around six ish. But you know some people
that we knew, well you know it better, that were
(35:37):
real close. Not maybe well some mighty came late, but
some of them were hanging around eight nine, you know,
and they were but they.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Were so close that it was fine, you know what
I mean. It wasn't like a big.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's late, Rob, you got you got a kid? What
about an eight hour birthday?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Part four kids?
Speaker 9 (35:54):
Let me just say that CP time is not exclusive
to the Black delic y'all got this? What do you
if you call household, if you have an advice as
one o'clock, people showing up at three o'clock. And if
you say there's an end time at seven, people are
leaving at ten. I'm a big fan of you, like Rob,
because I have a little girl now and I'm little kids.
I got a three hour for hour window that that's it.
(36:16):
And at seven o'clock it says still seven. I'm packing
up all the thousand chairs and saying you gotta go.
You hang out, but the party is.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Over, bad host, No, that's it because Chris don't string
it out all night.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
My parties go into the early morning. Yeah, wee hours, Sam.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
We kicking it Chris is a fibber.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Chris is.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
He's like, you gotta go. I gotta get charge tomorrow.
I gotta get up with charge. What are you doing?
Oh you got an hour left? Keep you love couple
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It's a funky flashback Friday. Sean King, former NFL quarterback.
You guys heard him filling in for Rob last week.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Did a great job. And Chris on Monday and Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Yeah, I'm off a couple of days next week and
off TV all week next week.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Next week.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, it's a dark week for us, and yeah, so
I'll be off all next week, but I will do
the eye couple of Wednesday Thursday, from.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I'm surprised you didn't take the full week. No, we didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know, it's interesting because we we are going to
my wife and I are going to go somewhere for
about three days. And then I told her. I was like,
you know what, we should have taken a whole week.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I was like, I want to staycation.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh, really, just want to stay at the house because
and I think you'll you'll understand this, Rob, I got
so much think so many things I want to do
at the house, you know, as far as getting things done.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But every time I'm off, I'm going on the trip. No,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
And it's like I don't have time to do it
and so and then you know, with the it's not
like I can do them on.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Work days just be because I do the team.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
No, No, I feel the same way. I've said this
all along. In order for me to fully catch up,
and you know, I got my hands on all these things, right,
I would need to take like two weeks off at
stay at home Chris and go through everything like real,
like real, I'm not even kidding you, Like two weeks
where I'm not leaving the apartment and I'm going through
(02:23):
stuff getting disorganized, you know what, Like there's just so
much because because along with doing a radio show, especially,
people don't understand like that the whole day I'm thinking about,
you know, the show, like it's a part of your life,
even though we're not on the air.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Well, in sports, you you got to read a lot,
keep up with a lot of watching stuff, You're talking
to people in the leagues. Yeah, so no doubt, no doubt.
So I'm looking forward to it. And you know, I've
got a couple of vacations coming up later this summer
family reunion and so you'll trip.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, so I'll take the radio days off then.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
But anyway, Rob, we talked Joe Varden last hour from
The Athletic. He had a great story on Team USA.
The men's basketball team is gonna try to win gold
again this year in Paris, and the main premise Rob
of the story was whether or not Lebron would come off,
(03:19):
possibly come off the bench, because Joe Varden was saying
that he feels like there's three definite starters. That's Kevin Durant,
the all time leading scorer for Team USA, Steph Curry,
the best shooter in the world and.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
By most people. I know, you don't consider him that.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
And then Joe l embiid the you know, the big man.
Those were the three, I believe, rob G those were
the three he said, I believe, And so he was like,
he brought up Kawhi. I'm sorry, I don't think Kawhi
Leonard is starting over Lebron James. I don't even think
(03:57):
that's a question. And my thinking is Lebron's definitely starting.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Ain't no way Lebron's can we stop like I saw that,
I'm like, and he he ended up.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Lebron's probably gonna start or gonna start, but yeah, I mean,
just out of respect, this is less go around. Really,
I'm just I don't see that. Yeah, I mean, if
if like he was just which won't be the case,
but if he was just playing horribly or getting crushed,
maybe ultimately to win goal if they had to make
a move. But even if in situations like that, Rob
(04:32):
you still might start him.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
To not embarrass him.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But Haliburton, the backup point guard of somebody else plays,
you know what I mean, we're play more. I don't
think that's gonna be the case. I think Lebron will
play well. But yeah, so we both are in agreement
that he'll start, but I might. This is what I
think this starting five should be robbed. I think it
should be Lebron as you want to call him, point guard,
(04:57):
whatever you want to call.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Him, Steph KD, Jason Tatum, and Joe l. Embiid. Now,
in the.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Feeble World Cup last year, they did get they were
getting beat up like they were too small, they weren't
rebounding well, and that was a different team obviously, But
if that proves to be the case as these games
are happening, then I could substitute Anthony Davis for Jason Tatum,
but I think that smaller lineup will be able to
(05:32):
get it done. Tatum is a good rebounder, great rebounder
for a size. The Rant's a good rebounder obviously, Embiid
and Lebron is a rebounder. And so that's what I
think I would have the starting five ass And if
Steve Kerr wants to run any semblance of that Golden
State offense that led them to so many championships, Lebron
(05:55):
could be in that Draymond Green role because you know,
when Golden State places Draymond is kind of like the
point guard, and Lebron could play that role obviously even
better than Draymond. And you got the shooters in Steph,
KD and Tatum and NBA obviously can shoot as well.
So I think that opens up that possibility for you
(06:17):
if you're Steve Kurr. But anyway, what do you think
of that and the notion of Lebron being the point guard?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Chris?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I think it's a huge indictment of this whole talk
that Steph Curry's the second best point guard of all time,
because there's no way if he was really considered that
would anybody be handling the ball other than him if
he's on this team. Hey, no way know how Magic
(06:45):
Johnson would be on a team in Lebron James is
handling the ball? Oh, Isaiah Thomas or John Stockton or
even Chris Paul.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
You say he's not a point guard, Yeah, he's not.
That's why it's dramon the ball more than him.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
But I'm saying, but this is this is the argument
that he's the second best point guard ever?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Is a sham? Is a rules? Is fo gazy?
Speaker 4 (07:10):
Steph Curry is not the second greatest point guard of
all time. If he was the second greatest point guard
of all time, Chris No matter if Lebron didn't have
a position or no matter if Lebron was on the team,
he would be handling the basketball, he would be running
the offense.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
But it ain't the case. Steph is a wolf in
sheep's clothing. That's what he is. He ain't no point guard.
They just don't want to call him a two guard.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Right because then if you do that, then so is
Lebron a point guard or not?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
He's just better than Steph Curry guard.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
But real talk rider No, but most of Lebron's career,
particularly in his prime, I know he's a point the
primary No, no, he was the primary ball handler.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He really, I mean, I don't call him a point guard.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
But if we really talk about the way he plays,
if we want to define positions by how you play,
you are right we would call and I don't. We
would call Steph Curry a two guard. We would call
Lebron James a point guard. They just started Remember they
(08:24):
used to call Luca a small forward shooting guard.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Now he's just viewed as.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
A point guard because that's how he plays. So, I mean,
if you want to make that argument, to me, it's
not a big deal. Okay, So Steph's not the second greatest.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Point guard ever.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
I think he actually is, because I do rank him
in the point guard category. But if you want to
move him to shooting guard, okay, so he's the third
best shooting guard ever. Difference, it's Michael Jordan number one,
Kobe Bryant number two, Steph Curry number three.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So you got Kobe ahead of Steph.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, because he was obvious the defense, so I would Yeah.
But I mean, to me, that's not a big deal.
I mean, but I think there are a lot of
players rob that we categorize them differently than they actually played.
I mean, Jokic in a lot of ways is the
(09:21):
Nuggets point guard. Now obviously he posts the heck Gary
Payton used to post up, Mark Jackson used to post up.
I mean they Jamal Murray is listed as the point guard.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
He ain't a point guard. He's a two guard. Yeah,
but that's fine. James Harden is.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I consider when I think about where James Harden ranks
robed like all time by position, I tend to categorize
him in the shooting guard category, although he's basically a
point guard. He's played point guard, you know, the whole
second half of his career and more and then some.
(10:01):
So I think it's you know, Steph. The reason I think,
one reason I think is Steph as a point is
because he can clearly play point. He played point for
Mark Jackson like today's point guards do high pick and roll,
and his numbers were great twenty four points, eight and
(10:21):
a half assists. You know, he was playing more like
today's point guards due But the genius of Steve Kerr
was that he said, this guy's like the best shooter
I've ever seen. Let me have him running off some
screens and stuff, and Clay running off some screens, and
Draymond can handle the ball and has a high basketball
(10:41):
IQ and can pass. Let me put the ball in
his hands. So I just, I mean, you know, if
you want carderguarize him as a two. And it's funny
I categorized Alan Iverson as a shooting guard. I don't
think of him as a point. So it's a lot
of players that kind of their positions get you know,
get mixed up because if they're doing a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
I hear that, but I'm just saying, whenever you want
to deem somebody as the second greatest point guard of
all time, and then you put together this team with
all these all time greats and he's not in that role.
That that's the only thing that's my biggest pushback is
that these other guys, you couldn't shift anybody else around.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Uh the point. Yeah, I'm not a great not this second. No,
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
I'm just not the greatest small. Is Lebron the second
best point guard of all times? Lebron's is the best
small for.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Und No, I'm asking you about point guard. You say him,
I don't categorize him as a point guard.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, he's playing with good If I did, I would
say he's I mean he he's not.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
He's a better player than no point guard.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yes, he played you just talked about it. He played
it most of his career. I don't know real did
I say that?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I think like Magic, Lebron is a better player than Magic.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Not a better point guard, but Magic was.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
A better point guard. Distributory right, Steph is a great passer.
But in that, in that, and he's a great ballhand,
Like he's a better ball handler than Lebron. I I
mean Lebron played point in a way that a lot
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not a lot of people did. He dominated the ball
and he scored a lot. And so I'm just saying,
if we're defining point guard is the guy that brings
the ball up, then Lebron Lebron did that for the
bulk of his career. But I like with Team USA,
and I said it to Joe Varden, I like putting
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him Lebron at point because he is a guy that
you know, loves to pass the ball. And when I've
got a ton of shooters on the team, that's what
I need. I need a guy that's gonna be primarily
be a passer. And then Lebron has turned himself into
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a very good three point Shooter's not forty one last year,
So now when he's on the perimeter, if they leave him,
he can obviously drain the three. So I and look,
that's Joe's article. That doesn't Steve Kerr hasn't come out
and said that's.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
How we'll do it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I bet you when they named the starting five and
Lebron and Steph are in it, I bet they'll call
Steph the point guard.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And if if I don't know if it'll be my
starting five.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
But in that group, I probably he probably called Jason
Tatum the two guard, and Lebron a small forward or
power forward, and kd the small forward. Like I mean today,
a lot of these guys are somewhat positionless, so I
know you're trying to make a big You know.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
He ain't a point god, he ain't a point guard.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
This guy is falling. It's just an indictment of Steph Curry.
It's a shad.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He's not no.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
I can best point guard of all time stopping with
that white.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Fox? Are you me airthing?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Are you with me?
Speaker 5 (14:09):
How dare you list them as a point guard on
Sports Reference Basketball Pro Basketball Reference dot Com?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
My goodness?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
How dare the Warriors Listen as a point guard in
their media guide?
Speaker 2 (14:21):
What are we talking about? He's a point.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Guard that I got a three dollar bill in my wallet.
I'm just saying it's phony. As the high Heavens.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
Week, Rob gave you the number eight seven, seven ninety nine.
O Fox, you'll turn away in Team USA, Steph? Is
he a point guarding the two guard? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
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Speaker 1 (15:31):
I gotta admit, Rob Mary, Mary is in the crates.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
She ain't playing the night all right. It's the eye
couple Fox Boy. He's only sixteen and she knows all
this all. Oh my goodness, I'm believing close to the sixteen.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Then you want to twenty one?
Speaker 1 (15:49):
All right? Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox I
turned the Way in. Rob thinks it's a big deal
that lebron uh I guess we'll handle the ball.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
More than Steph. Maybe we think in uh the Olympics.
Your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
All right, let's kick it off with MJ in New Orleans.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
M J?
Speaker 8 (16:17):
Going on back Friday?
Speaker 3 (16:19):
A little fat back jamming?
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Right back then baby backstroking.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
You know what you need? Some of that bacon. Put
that bacon in the hamhocks.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Okay, let's do it. Oh, look at that pork kills?
What did you eat for the fourth?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
M J? Uh?
Speaker 8 (16:38):
The fourth?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yesterday?
Speaker 8 (16:42):
I put off some of them. Man, we we don't
do that.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Were you in Texas?
Speaker 3 (16:49):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Is it New Orleans?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
So no, you've never had you never had poor? Is
that what you're telling me?
Speaker 8 (16:56):
I haven't had pe?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Okay, but you've had poor? I could didn't kill you,
did it?
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
I don't remember rock is okay?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
All right?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You can have You know what I say when you
say you don't eat pork more for us?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I gave a.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Pork rob for about six months, once eight a piece
of bacon or something after that, and got aheaded right.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Got a headache, didn't Yeah, you're a muslim my brother.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Was a Muslim for a while, he stopped eat. You
don't eat port to this day. But is that why
you stayed up?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Now?
Speaker 8 (17:30):
I'm not not a muthering, but you know I've had
bean pies before and looking for being being positive.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Take christ you're from here and I eat a lot
of beer pies.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yes, certainly a go ahead. What you got step is.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
A combo guard. Thirty ninth in a sixth I think
that says at all, right, thirty ninth in the sixth. Uh,
this Olympic thing rocked on, Rob. When's your patriotic things?
Speaker 9 (17:58):
Come on?
Speaker 8 (17:58):
You want you want the big you know Lebron You
know I want a six six foot nine point guard
this mass Come on, come on, you want that. Steph
is gonna be running around, that's what he do. But
Professor Chris, did you say that Lebron Jay was a
better player than Urban Magic Johnson?
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Really?
Speaker 1 (18:19):
I mean you you know I got him second all
time behind Jordan, So of course I Chris, Chris, No,
I mean you've heard me say that for six years
on this show.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
It just dawned on you that I think he's better
than Magic.
Speaker 8 (18:34):
Well you said that, but I was like, probably we
were run the same age. I think I'm one year
older than you. Chris Okay, Magic skyhook baby hook champion,
well not even just championships.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I mean, don't don't act like the sky hook was
a part of his game.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
I mean he did hit the junior junior skyhook to
win in the finals.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I know Magic could do.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
That, and Magic could have scored more than he actually did.
He could have scored a lot more, but he was
about it. He was really about the team. Magic is great.
I got Magic fourth, Magic is a great and Rob
got lebron.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
I had the magic too.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
It maybe it didn't look a certain way, but magic. Yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
Why give us something money? And we got off off
Steph Curry. We were like off the track.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Rob wants you to rip staff. That's right. We got
to move on.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Thank you, Jay, all appreciated, buddy, Thank you Andre and Massachusetts.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drey,
how you doing?
Speaker 10 (19:37):
Thanks for taking the call. Listen to Rob. I agree
with you in terms of Steph Curry's characterization as a
point guard, He's really more of a combo guarden shooting guard.
He's not certainly not a past first point guard can't
be helped.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It's kind of like Kyrie.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
They played differently, but Kyrie would fall into that same group.
Although all time I would rank Kyrie as a as
a point guard.
Speaker 10 (19:57):
True, but he's never going to be in the top
five assists with the Jason Kidd, with the John Stockton,
with the Magic Johnson, just because of their size.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Who you're talking about, Yeah, their scores primarily, Yeah, Damian
Lillard doesn't get a ton of assists six seven, you know.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
So they're combo guards, you know, and they're just really
more undersized two guards. But to your point about Steph
Curry and you know, them trying to figure out how
they're going to make this rotation work. I think that
they have a lot of younger guys that are probably
gonna be the engine, the Anthony Edwards and the Jason Tatums,
and then you have the older guys who are not
their centerpiece players lebron K d Steph Curry. I'm sorry
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they're not the centerpiece of piece players.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I'm not so sure about that. I think they will be.
They will at least try to make them centerpiece players.
Now if they if they show they can't do it.
That's another thing. But don't you agree with that?
Speaker 9 (20:47):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Like that they're they're thinking is that those three are
gonna be center police guys.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Would you agree with that? I think that they should
be right on those three. Who else would it be? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
I mean I think Lebron Stephen kd are viewed as
kind of pillars on this team, not just for experience,
but just for you know, they can still play.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right, Sean, we had a corner kind of good
year last year. I'm just they all did. Yeah, they
all had a good year. Good years.
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Speaker 1 (21:26):
We welcome in former NFL quarterback you heard him all
last week. Came in, did a great job filling in
for Rob. We'll be here next week Monday and Tuesday
as well.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
It won't be as easy, you know this time, Sean.
I'm just saying, you know, you gotta go.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Took some lumps. I mean everybody, he took some lumps.
I mean I was rough on him, all right, But
just coming back.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I just want you to know walking next week, all right,
cake walk.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
All right, sel never hear instead of a bun cake,
it's going to be a blunt.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
I just want you to know that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
Oh wow, oh maybe that's not the right All okay, whatever,
I'm gonna ask something.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
For you, Sean.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
First question, we were talking earlier in the show, who's
the best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
It's Patrick Mahomes. Well, of course it's not an argument.
It's not a debate. Anybody that says otherwise it is
just trolling.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
That wasn't the argument the argument that you said. You
said that for the next eight years, nobody was going
to surpass.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
No, No, I say it right, Rogie. Was that you said?
It's not that was it? That was the argument you're running.
That's the argument that you said about Sean.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
I'm still picking said what it was. It was nobody
for the next eight years is in that conversation.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Not That's what Dick. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
That was my point because he's miss mischaracter so you
get on the mic not but the topic. Look what
I said is this I said because because Tank Dale
said that CJ. Stroud could be the best quarterback in
the league could become that. I said, the best quarterback
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in the league is not up for discussion right now.
And for seanp for Patrick Mahomes, I said, I don't
think it's going to be up for discussion for the
next seven eight years. However, long is prime. Last I said,
the only way it could change is if someone CJ.
Stroud or someone else comes along and starts winning like
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Patrick Mahomes and basically turns the Texans into a dynasty
like Mahomes did for Kansas City, and he needs to
start doing it now.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So that was the whole eight year thing. But but
go ahead, so.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Two things can be true. And just for context, I
was asked to rank the top thirty two quarterbacks in
the NFL, and I had CJ. Stroud in my top five.
So that's how high I am on Stroud. The problem
is Mahomes. Mahomes is twenty eight seven years from now,
he'll only be thirty five, and he's not a guy
that relies on running away from people. You know, he's mobile,
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but he's not an athlete been a quarterback, so statistically
you think he's gonna do the same thing everybody else
is playing catch up from a success standpoint. I mean,
whether he have three super Bowls on two MVPs, so
everybody else is playing catch up. So I just I
just think it's gonna be hard to surpass him while
he's still an active player. And I maybe CJ, you know,
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five years actor Mahomes is done if he can win
a couple of championships for some of these young guys.
But but right now, it's just out a doubt Patrick
Mahomes and he's earned it because he's beaten all the
other top guys at some point.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Yeah, I think it's more than just that.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
It's a difference between being on the best team or
having a great coach. And his numbers last year they
were really up. His numbers were all down. So when
you talk about him, I get it. The ultimate goal
is winning it the Super Bowl, and you win that,
but they are all kinds of numbers to indicate that
they weren't that great last year offensively, and his numbers
he had the lowest passing yards.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
There's a lot of things that went on and during
the Mahomes zero.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Even when he won his first MVP and won the
Super Bowl, everybody thought, okay, well, he's gonna run the table.
Lamark becomes the unanimous MVP one year, and then Aaron
Rodgers at thirty seven, eight years old, wins back to back.
That's all I'm talking about. I don't see how anybody
could have a lockdown for eight years. That's my point.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
It's interesting because I think what makes the most recent
Super Bowl the most impressive is he did it minus Tyren.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah, but he also had a great defense that helped
the last year.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Well, most Super Bowl teams are complete teams. I mean,
when's the last time we saw a one sided Super
Bowl champ like to win it all in that league,
because it's the most parody of any professional sports league
in America. You got to have a complete team. For
the fact that if he had a complete team, that's
not a knock on Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
The fact, no, it's not a knock. It's just a
five all right, Nobody saying it's a knock.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
But you gotta admit the defense was pretty damn impressive
last year, and so.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Is everybody else has been the Rams defense. A couple
of years ago, when Stafford finally got his great defense.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Stafford threw a pick right on Q that was dropped
and his dad that.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't understand what
I was trying to argue. Are you saying to homes
isn't the best?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
I'm saying that there's no way, There's no way he is.
He's on lockdown for the next seven or years. That
was the conversation, Lemar Jacks know, that was the conversation.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I'm not buying.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
I did say that, but I'm saying that's what but
there's no lockdown for.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Eight years now. I'm not buying from it.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
You said, Lamar, all right, that's what you said. I
didn't hear it. But me and you're gonna have all
day money and too. I want to teach you some
valuable lessons business right now. Now. It's an argument for
whose second best, But it's a good argument because they're
all super talented and I think are on the customer
doing something great.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yeah, I agree with you on CJ. I love CJ,
and I do want to see it for another year.
How good do you think he and the Texans will
be this year?
Speaker 6 (27:18):
Or is it?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
You?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Guys the hard right hard.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
The hardest thing in that league is how you handle success.
I don't like that every event. CJ's added, he was
at Rick Rubins. Uh well, Michael, Michael Ruby, he asked me, having.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
A very festive summary, I will get.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
All overything. I mean, don't be afraid to go through
some passes and stuff on digs. But I'll say this,
the margins in the NFL are so small, like the
period in that league, guys from year to year. It's
if you haven't ever participated in it, you don't really understand.
Every game seems like it comes down to the middle
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of the fourth quarter. Team's got maybe a touchdown different
and then a big third down if they don't converted,
the other teams got the ball with a chance to time.
So I mean the year before it looked like the
Bengals we the air apparent and then all of a
sudden Borrow gets hurt. So can the Texas take the
next step? We'll see. But that AFC is super competitive.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Yeah, that is the big issue.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Is I want to see year two as well, where
people weren't expecting anything from them and then all of
a sudden, you know what I mean, they got that.
No one will be taking them lightly as well, So
it'll be interesting to see. Speaking of how you handle
success is in the NFC North, are the Lions of
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lock to win the division?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
I don't think they are locked because I think once
Jordan Love kind of got his bearings and a lot
of people criticize to them for only like playing well
for half a season first year as a full time starter,
so he got better as the season went along. That's
normally how how that progression works. I mean, green Bay's legit,
(29:08):
they're talented, they're young, the athletic, Minnesota's got everything. But
I think a settled quarterback situation.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
And and then and the Bears are going to be better.
I mean they're going to be better than they were.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
The one thing I would say about Detroit is the
head guy. It's not gonna let them get complacent. So
if they don't make it to the NFCY Championship next year,
next year, it's not because I think they were entitled
or they took anything for granted.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
He might he might be the reason why. He might
be the reason why with with some of the calls
that do what.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
You like about oh, well, I mean he's aggressive.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I mean there's aggressive, digressive, now there's aggressive, and then's
become a great coach. You know, there's aggressive and then
there's a mistakes being made.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I mean, I thought he cost them the Super Bowl.
I did, I thought he cost him.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I do want to say this. I think it's a
difference at times games between being aggressive on your side
of the field and just being silly, which is what
Staley from the Chargers used to do, right like where
he go for it on his own fifteen yard line.
You know what I'm saying talking about it was analytics,
like at least Campbell when he's aggressive, they're in scoring
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position and instead of kicking off long field.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
You remember the game they lost to Dallas last year.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
You remember that where they got that a penalty and
moved back and still went for like that.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I thought, now.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
That that's what I'm That's a bad coaching.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
That's bad.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
That still was inside his ten.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It's still you know, once you have the penalty, you
got to kick the field goal.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I agree. I was watching the game. I agree, But
I'm saying there's a difference to me between that and
what Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
In the NFC Championship game is team being shut out
twenty eight to nothing in the second half and he's
leaving field goals. I mean in the red zone, like,
oh no, not not putting any points on the board.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
That's what changed that game.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
I don't think you can process those decisions after the
result because he's been that way the entirety of the year.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
No, he wasn't, and Sean, this is where this is.
Let me tell you, No, he wasn't. And let me
give you the example at the end of the first half.
He could have gone for it at the three yard
line the juggular and he didn't.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
He took the field goal.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
So if he was aggressive in all those situations all year,
I would buy that.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
But he took the field goal. Why'd you take the
field goal there?
Speaker 4 (31:28):
You could have gone for you at the three yard line,
get thirty five points in the first half.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
He kicked the field goal. That doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So very very few times when it comes to coach's
decisions that you see absolute meaning, they were in this
situation thirty five times and they did the same thing
all thirty five times, my point being eighty five ninety
percent of the time. He's been and aired on the
side of being aggressive over the course of his tenure
as head coach of Alliance. All Right, that's what he say.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
If he is, you.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Guys will have six hours this week to fussing five Sorry,
it'll be good. Have added get some rest this weekend. Sean,
have a great one and we'll see it month say
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It is shot talk here on the Okapa Fox Sports
Radio SEC when we talk about something happened outside of
the world is sports. This week's topic comes to us
from TikTok, where a mother of a young third grade
child went viral after she posted a video complaining about
the fact that she her daughter was invited to a
birthday party and on the invite, it said the party
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was gonna go from one pm to eight pm, seven
hours of hosting a group of second and third grade children.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
What kind of party is that?
Speaker 9 (33:16):
So here's the question, rob, whether it's kids or not.
If you're hosting a party, is there an appropriate time
frame or time limit for you as the host? Or
you say, hey, nine hours is cool, I'm hosting all night.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
What do you mean? I'm like, like, if.
Speaker 9 (33:34):
You say, hey, come over for a party, a barbecue
at my house time frame if you're a barbecue four hours,
four hours to me a birthday party, and you know what,
and you know what I do.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm not even kidding you.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
I always make it for a shorter window because if
you make it too long, people will come, you know
what I mean, like way late, so quitz.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
If I say it's only gonna be three.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
Hours or four hours, you really don't have time to
be like trying to come real late.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
And that's what And the same thing.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
When I do a barbecue, I'll talk about ribs. You know,
in the six o'clock hour, don't come and then go
there no more ribs. So I let people know. You
got to have a small window to make people come
on time.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
At your parties ride and you know, look, we just
let's just keep it real.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Have you ever had to deal with CEP time? What,
rob g? You mean you know?
Speaker 6 (34:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Did?
Speaker 5 (34:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I mean I have had seape time, colored people time.
It's it's it's a real thing in a.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Lot of them. No, And that's what I'm saying, Chris.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
I've had birthday parties ride for my kids that start
at one and they come in there and we got people.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Coming at three thirds, right, it doesn't make we here
like the parties all right? Like yo, I mean so, but.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
You see what I'm saying about having a smaller window,
you know what I mean, like not give them, Yeah, at.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
The very least, if they do come late, it gives
It's like, yo, I told.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
You it's one. I told you it's one to four,
you know what I mean. And if you come at three,
there's no food line.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Don't be mad, no food you got here at three o'clock.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I mean, I I don't I remember I had a
big barbecue one year where our family did and I
don't know it started at I guess two. Maybe people
came at two and you know, most people probably were
gone by around six ish. But you know some people
that we knew, well you know it better, that were
(35:37):
real close. Not maybe well some mighty came late, but
some of them were hanging around eight nine, you know,
and they were but they.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Were so close that it was fine, you know what
I mean. It wasn't like a big.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
That's late, Rob, you got you got a kid? What
about an eight hour birthday?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Part four kids?
Speaker 9 (35:54):
Let me just say that CP time is not exclusive
to the Black delic y'all got this? What do you
if you call household, if you have an advice as
one o'clock, people showing up at three o'clock. And if
you say there's an end time at seven, people are
leaving at ten. I'm a big fan of you, like Rob,
because I have a little girl now and I'm little kids.
I got a three hour for hour window that that's it.
(36:16):
And at seven o'clock it says still seven. I'm packing
up all the thousand chairs and saying you gotta go.
You hang out, but the party is.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Over, bad host, No, that's it because Chris don't string
it out all night.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
My parties go into the early morning. Yeah, wee hours, Sam.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
We kicking it Chris is a fibber.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
Chris is.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
He's like, you gotta go. I gotta get charge tomorrow.
I gotta get up with charge. What are you doing?
Oh you got an hour left? Keep you love couple
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