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April 2, 2025 39 mins

Rob & Kelvin talk about the latest blunder from NBA star Ja Morant and whether or not he’s made himself irrelevant, Hall of Famer Nancy Lieberman joins the show to talk everything women’s ball, another edition of Last Call, and why season 2 of the UFL is DOA!

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All right, and coming up, the Hall of Famer herself
who I once played one on one in basketball?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Did you know that, Manzi? Yes? Nancy Lieberman.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
Wow, she'll be talking about the women's NCAA tournament. Men's
You know Nancy, she was like one of the first
women to play in the men's league.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Nancy one of my favorite people. But we get to
get her on the show coming up. Yeah, at the.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
About twenty eight minutes or so. Well, let's go here
and Bo you can set the table on this and
it's Jah Moran.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Who I just I scratched my head.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yeaha. ESPN's Shan Serania reported that the NBA is looking
into a gesture Jamarant made towards the Warriors bench yesterday.
He made a gun gesture, are going to time out?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Buddy?

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Healed of the Warriors also did the same thing. Yeah,
so the NBA is looking at both. But yeah, not good.
But John has a history.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
There you go, yep, there you go. And therein lies
the issue.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
And this is a teachable moment for young people, for adults,
to everybody, is that when you are in hot water
because of something, you have to stay out of it.
You have to stay away from the fray. And you
can't say, well, he did it, she did and they
did it. Well, what are you in trouble for?

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
It's like if you keep coming home doing something your
parents told you not to do it, and the one
time a sister or sibling did it.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
But I've been told you.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
I've told you several times to stop doing that, and
the other one might get a little slap on the wrist,
but I have to keep I have daughters, right, I have.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
To keep telling you to do this, you.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
To pick up your rumork, you to finish your homework,
and so you're more med at the one I had
to keep telling.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
So you just brought up a good point.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
Bo.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
When you get the full video, you can see the
warrior bench doing it to him first, and so he's
kind of in reply back to them. Now that I
want to make sure I say that because Joe or
his lawyers, his agent whatever was a hey, he was
only in response to them, and in a perfect world,
apples of apples, No, that would.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Make sense, but you ain't in that case. You know better.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
You've had two situations with guns, and these are real guns,
so you should already know.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I just need to leave guns. Absolutely. I can't go
Gilbert Aerenas can't bring guns. Tonerena can't do it like Gilbererenas.
I can't do that, and I feel bad for him.
He stayed on social media, he has stayed away from
other fred That's kind of why you feel like, has
he disappeared?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Where's he been? Because he stayed away from everything.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
He said, if I didn't won an NBA, I would
completely deactivate, but I got to do it for sponsors
and endorsements and all that. He's completely trying to just
stay out of the muck, if you will, And then
he did this worst thing ever. No or a bunch
of others. They showed a bunch of other guys in
the NBA that do it. Yes, a bunch of guys
do that. They've dode a little shooting the gun thing,
hitting big shots. But Joe, you're in a different situation,

(04:07):
and unfortunately you're gonna be judged differently because the first
thing we think of is not John Morant but joh Wick.
And that's what we're calling you, joh Wick. So the
young brother has had to learn and to his credit,
he's try to do his best, and he has, but
this is a setback minor small. But you are in
the case where you're trying to build back equity and

(04:27):
grace with the league and not be on their bad side.
So that That was my take seeing it was oh
my gosh, that that ain't a big deal. But then
I had to think of the person, the history the
transaction is just like Isaiah Stewart of the Pistons. Everybody
got suspended for that fight they had the other day
with he got two and you're like, what, he wasn't
even in. He ran it later because he keeps having issues,

(04:48):
get in the scuffy, trying to be the enforce the
bad boy, bring the bad boy, and so the league
says what they say, you got a track record of this,
we gotta suspend you.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
And and it should count as track record. And for Job, Unfortunately,
since he's been through all this and suspensions right and
all the other stuff that's gone on, he's like an
afterthought now, which is so sad. It's such a dramatic,
dynamic player. You don't hear him talk about job, do you.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Don't, be honest, he's probably, you know, the ten twelfth
guy you talk about You just don't.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
You don't talk about him like he's fallen off the
the NBA map, so to speak. And then the only
time you hear something is something related to Unfortunately as
minor really as it is.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
And I agree with you.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
Under normal circumstances you might say, can you not do that?

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Okay, like can you not do that? It ain't the
end of the world.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
But because he's had the issues with the guns before,
you know, the NBA is gonna look at it. And
I don't expect the suspension. I expect the stern talking
to can you please just stop?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Please? I agree, and I think I really do.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
And I think there might be a mention aloud meaning hey,
we're gonna say this everybody, because remember they used to
do that when Paul Pierce was throwing up the Bee
people because he's from Inglewood and the Bloods and they
were all he's throwing up gang sign.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
He's like, no, it's a three.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
And then they looked into it, first abandoned, and then
they all right, everybody's doing this the three. That's the
whole Carmelo that three. Smack your head with the three.
So I think they'll say, hey, maybe we need Easther
because someone's gonna say, well, look what the Warriors bench
was doing. This kid down in Atlanta. That's the thing
he does with the Hawks, and he does it all
the time. So I think somebody's gonna say, well, look,

(06:30):
you know, I got six seven, eight guys who do this?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Why just jah?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
And I think the league might say, hey, Ja, especially
you relax right mister bust and the guns on ig
and then also everybody else, you got a chill for
a little while with that.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
So I think they might come.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Down a little more of a talking to him and
then an announcement like hey, we're gonna, you know, no
more of those gun things.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
You're going to.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Be fine if you keeping you do this. Yep, I
think that's gonna happen because they do this. They do this.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
All you gotta do is take away people's money.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
You want to get somebody's attention, take away their bread
and start saying we will find you.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Especially for celebration.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
If you take away bread for something, religiously believe some
military student.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
In the NFL for celebrating, you know, like all kinds
of stuff like you remember it was called the no fundlea.
It was always a fine for something. Use your uniform
is not this or that, and.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Your dance was too long, you used the pylon, you
did it. You two people celebrated, were two people couldn't
celebrate with BEFO.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
We used to have the fun Bunch. Remember was that
in d C. Where was the fun Bunch?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
It was not the Bengals, but yeah, dah, it might
have been the well the Redskins, damn yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I think so the fun Bunch. It was fun.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
It's a game, dude, if you don't want if you
don't want them to score and stop them from score.
Hien never understood the anti celebration. Chad Ocho Cinko his
run of a few years. We didn't know what to expect.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Tiger Woods with the the dancing, the sausedanca, that was amazing.
You looked for t O and his marker, the pom
poms with the Unira, the Chilean's pomp, that one way
marker in the in the uh No, he had it
in his sock. You're talking about Joe Horn put the
phone in there.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
And then they were like, okay, Joe Horn might have
been the one because he had the phone.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Right, that was alight, You sneaking in equipment technology.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
But I wonder where where Ja Moran is to you?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
What what where do you place him? All right? This
is like we're not going to make the end of
the world about.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
The right, right, Well, we all agree on that. It's
the person in the history more so than the act.
The act wasn't a big deal. It's just I keep
telling you not to do that and you did it again.
So we agree on that.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
But but where is he it is? Is he out
of Like.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
You remember at one point people were talking about he
could be the face of the NBA, how dynamic was
of a player John Wick, and he was right there.
I'm not saying he's the show on Watson. I'm not
because Deshaun Watson fell off the map completely. But does
John have the same buzz? Are you still worked up
to see him play? Are you checking for his highlights?

(09:12):
Do you know what I mean? Is he on your
NBA radar? John Moran's off my NBA radar?

Speaker 2 (09:19):
That's disappointing to man and that that's where we are.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
And if you told me that a few years ago,
I said, you're a sugarough, You're crazy.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I'm John Joah from Moran.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, maybe is that that? Yeah, it's cool, we'll roll
with it. We'll let it, We'll let that ride. I'm
cool with it. It is this, it's sad, but my
hot dog eating situation that was Yeah, that was. I
was already prepared to have to just be like Yo,
it's wants Shelvin for a week without Rob. I was prepared, like, dang,
I might have to do this show solo man at disappointing.

(09:50):
There's a couple of couple of reasons. You spend it
one time on the radio in thirty years, just one. Yeah,
we were going well the radio radio. I want to
say TV to talk about that radio. The thing with
Joe and this is and this is I think a
real thing. I think Josh sat Back realized what he
was doing. He's young, dude, he grew completely, grew up

(10:12):
in the social media era where everything got it. If
it ain't happening on the gram, it didn't happen. So
I gotta flex my money, got a flex with this.
I gotta show my gun that I own a gun,
do everything I can on Instagram and ig and tiktoks
and all that. And I think he during a suspension,
I actually think he had some good revelations, like, Yo,
I'm a young man.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
I made it.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
I'm successful, whether I want to be or not. I'm
a role model. And I think the problem with not
the problem, but with the result of that is the
better way of phrasing it. That he realized, Man, I
ain't doing none of that again. And I think he
kind of came back slightly bitter that y'all made me
to be a bad guy, calling me a thug, calling
me an idiot. And I think he took some of
that to heart. And I think he also kind of like,

(10:51):
I'm about to play hard for my team, play hard
for my coaches, my staff, and for me and my family.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
But that's it.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
I ain't doing extra interviews, I ain't doing podcasts. And
what did he say? I'm not dunking this season? Remember
that was a big did That's what makes him great.
He said, I'm not dunking this season. He doesn't do
the dunk contest now. He came out on tweet and
said he might do it, but that would have helped. Right,
Jock Moran comes back, we have this epic dunk contest
between him and the G League guy.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
I like he thinks he's punishing the NBA and the fans.
It's really you.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
I agree, like, like you, you're gonna make people not with.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
The checks cash every two weeks, but legacy further down
because when it comes time to dole out those situations
and what players are the top one hundred at that point,
yellow Jack Water or whatever they the bust in you know,
NBA Hall of Fame. No, for sure, that's what I think.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
We're just you can mess up your legacy.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I think we're just dealing with the aftermath of him
being embarrassed, disappointed, maybe a little bitter, felt like we
we overdid the whole uh again, disrespecting him calling me a thug,
he's a bad guy, and he's like, I'm not dude.
I'm just being done with a gun. I'm not a
bad dude. And I think he's in that zone of like,
I ain't doing nothing. He talked about it. I told
you said, if I have to be on social media
for endorsements and deal with Nike and all that and
Gatorade on, you would never see me. And I think

(12:07):
he is taking that wholeheartedly. And I think he's not
trying to think. He's just trying to come win a
game and get out the city.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
Period.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I don't want none of that extra stuff. I ain't
trying to be cute and flashy and do all that.
I ain't trying to dunk for everybody. Hurt myself, forget
all that, and Kobe kind of went through that for
a minute. When that's why Kobe body the Black Mamba.
When he went through what he went through, all the
stuff in Colorado and all of that, and he felt
like everybody turned his back on him, and you know,
Nike was leaving and all this stuff serious.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
It was very Yeah, it was serious.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
No, I'm not questioning that, but he felt alone and
he kind of said it hardened him and he realized,
like I got to go do this, you know, on
my own and rebuild and rebrand and kind of and
not that this is knowing near that the severity, but
what I'm saying is kind of that screw everybody when
Lebron remember Lebron the black Hat because of the decision,
and everybody was all, Lebron is this, Lebron is that?

(12:58):
And it was the first time we ever seen trying
to be the bad guy, the villain, and just like,
I ain't gonna be a mister fun guy. And I
just think we're seeing a version of that with joh
like where he's just completely checked out as far as
the other stuff. I'm just gonna come play and that's that.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
All right eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Is
John Moran off your NBA radar or not? Or you
still all in? Can he still be the face of
the NBA? Or has that ship sailed? His name used
to be mentioned? It was up there and now I
don't think we could say the same thing as These

(13:35):
last couple of years have been kind of a rocky
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Morant does the gun thing in response to the Warriors bench.
We both agree it's not that big of a deal,
But when you're Joma Ran with that track record, that's
what makes it a big deal.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Be interesting to see what the league does.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And joh, you got a question of is John on
your radar?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Did he fall off too far you don't even you
need not even bleeping your radar anymore? Or do you
not check in on what he's doing?

Speaker 4 (15:12):
Or he was Edwards before Edwards he was people were saying,
this guy, look how dynamic he is. He's going to
be the next face, so as a chance to be
the face of the NBA, and then he's gotten into
these issues, suspensions, the gun play, and then before you
know it, he's come back kind of dry, not really going.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
All out out. He was the polar opposite.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
He was led, he was dancing, he was a celebration,
dunking on everybody who we got.

Speaker 4 (15:36):
All right, let's start with Robert in Georgia. You're in
the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
What's up, Robert whole note, I'm blessed man. I can't complain.

Speaker 8 (15:49):
I just wanted to say I do.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
I don't think he was on the show at the time,
but I'm just when the first incident started was Robin Chris.
I'm I will say, I'm glad that you know, I
see those two different situations because he actually was holding
a real gun. But I feel like Robin Chris really
made that bigger than what it was at the time,
and the league did. And now fast forward to this,
I feel like they're just being blown on proportion for

(16:12):
one like we'll make.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
This a big deal here. I'm just wanting to know.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
Oh yeah, now, yeah, you're not making a bigger.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
The difference is Robert. And this is where I'll disagree
with you.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
When you work for people or an organization, you wear
a uniform or a city, there are different rules. You're
not Joe regular and you're you represent more than yourself.
So that's why they are all kinds of things that
you have to abide by, and whether you like it
or not, those are the things you sign up for.
It's the same through, same thing with your job and

(16:44):
you have a morals clause. There's all kinds of stuff
that normal people never have in their work life, and
they can pretty much do whatever they want, uh, But
when you represent others and you can hurt a product
as a whole, they hold you the different standards.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (17:02):
No, No, I definitely get that. I just think that
with like just things is like that.

Speaker 8 (17:07):
I don't know if y'all seen a new one with
the NFL.

Speaker 6 (17:09):
Where they stop, uh them doing for the nose white
basically saying that they can't do that just anymore. And
it's the same thing. It's just not being up with
urban culture. Like Kelvin said, it's a lot of other
players that do that. It doesn't actually need an actual gun.
Sometimes they can be thrown up for three now he was,
but they can be thrown up for three or things like.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
He was doing it, but you're defending it.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
No, no, No, What I'm saying is that the gesture a
lot of times is not as deep as people are
trying to make it seeming. So like, for instance, when
Ceedee Lamb does this nose white verbally, people think that
that means you're going to kill somebody, but that's not
what he's using as he us.

Speaker 4 (17:44):
Have you talked to CD Lamb and he said that
to you?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
No, I'm just asking, Okay, no, I have.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
I just think it's just something different and I don't
think it's really a big deal. But I appreciate your
time and thank you for letting.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Me always we appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (18:00):
Who Andre in Massachusetts, you're in the ond couple of
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
What's up, Drey?

Speaker 9 (18:05):
Hey, Yeah, what's going on? Thanks for taking a call.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
Listen.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
In terms of being the faith of the league, right,
the supernova, the guiding star, you know that's gonna take
the league. At Lebron passes over the range, John missed
that vote, and he had the opportunity and you and
you've noticed that's wen Be or that's Anthony Edwards right now.
And it could have been Job, okay, because he came
in to the NBA. Uh, you know a lot of
energy almost like Ai his his rookie year. You know,

(18:30):
just great athleticism, you know, just going hard every game.
Might not have been the most talented guy, but was
bringing uhich is overpowering people, you know, just with the
athleticism and the energy. As I said, but I credit John.
Here's the bottom line, Okay, even though that ship has sailed,
he can still get back to being an All Star,
being an All NBA player and kind of get his
career back on the right direction. I despised what happened

(18:51):
to Taylor Jenkins. I think that was absolutely uncalled for
and just ridiculous in terms of he stabilized that team
and put John a position to be successful through the
ups and down. And now you just to spend a
good coach instability. So I have my questions about that,
But I'm pulling for Job and hoping that he gets back,
you know, uh, in the battle, so to speak. But
Anthony Edwards or Wemby is the next base of the leak.

(19:11):
They're taking a call.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
All right, got top of what say to Jim and
Boise Boise, Idaho.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
You're on the odd couple Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jim?

Speaker 10 (19:22):
Yeah, yeah, what's something long time?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Appreciate it. Yeah, appreciate that we got you to call in.
I love it.

Speaker 10 (19:29):
Yeah. Well, I wanted to say on the I'm your
answer as far as like you were saying it, like
he was like now he was gonna be a factory
or I have to see it like like you know,
to your diet and you were trying to get your tear.
You figured out you sh't. You can't like your should
get away or you're allergic or whatever.

Speaker 8 (19:50):
So what you do is you cut down.

Speaker 11 (19:51):
All your everything.

Speaker 10 (19:52):
You got enough to do that elimination diet, right, no, right,
And I like you can't figure out why using it,
why he's doing all these things doing But.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, he's saying so in order to just same everything,
I'm just gonna not do anything, you know what I mean,
cut everything out and the fun, the dancing, the dunks,
the you know, talking smack.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
And like me cutting out the cheesecake. Yeah, you're doing
well you're looking spelt.

Speaker 12 (20:21):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I've been going from you proud, I mean, Alex knows Rob,
I know you. This is easy. Said it, You said it?
You notice it? No, dude, you look, I'm telling you
the God's on the street. You feel more confident.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
I can see you.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Look at I saw you on with Brian Kennedy today.
I thought you were cute. He was extra smiley today.
You tell you know how you you're feeling good, like
had a nice outfit on you. He's feeling cute.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
No, he was feeling he was feeling feeling yourself.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
I know it was a drop top day without even
know being there the whole way, the whole way, Alice,
We're gonna make that happen, please this year.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
What's the what's that part?

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Driver? And we keep talking about driving up the PCA
and my Volkswaggon bug you know, and we're just gonna.

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guy and I'm trying to decide what I'm going to
do by keep it because I love it. At least
one or buy something. So it's like to keep what.
I'm keeping enough money into this, keep it.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I love the car, you know, I love it, But
I tell him I might leave some so if he gotta.

Speaker 7 (21:42):
Fact, they love when people lease cars because then you
pay for a bunch, they get it back and sell
it for a lot.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Right, And my car, because I don't do it go
a lot. Love it's way under the miles.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
See that's my problem, like way under a gazillion jobs.
And I live in a different neighborhood. I live off
from here. I just live far from Spectrum. How dare Spectrum?
Why can Inspectrum be where every other TV network is
out here right up in here in the valley somewhere
They want to be all out there.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I'm sorry, I digress.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
All right, Mancy right now is trending. And then we
have a guest, Nancy Laberman.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
We do want to get to Nancy.

Speaker 12 (22:17):
But I'm gonna come with you guys on this PCH drive.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
So I'm inviting myself.

Speaker 12 (22:21):
Just so you know, just four seats in the beautiful
beautiful I take up a tiny, tiny space in the back.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I'm as long as Alex. I think Alex is on
the blue tube of the Ox Corp.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
But Rob, you could drive, because I want my hair
to blow in the wind as we drive.

Speaker 12 (22:36):
Obviously, obviously we'll put hair product in Alex's hair so
it doesn't get all crazy.

Speaker 8 (22:42):
Guys.

Speaker 12 (22:43):
The Braves are the only team in baseball that has
not won a game, and right now they are beating
the Dodgers five to two in LA.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
It's the bottom of the third inning.

Speaker 12 (22:51):
It looks like the Diamondbacks might be beating the Yankees,
even though we're headed to the bottom of the ninth
inning in the Bronx.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
But it's been all Diamondbacks. They're up for zero.

Speaker 12 (23:00):
In fact, Diamondbacks pitcher Zach Gallen pitched six and two
thirds innings. He gave up three hits but had thirteen
strikeouts against the Yankees. I wonder if they're using that
torpedo bat. I don't know. Uh, let's move on to basketball.
The Cavaliers were down fifteen at one point and came
back to beat the Knicks one twenty four to one
oh five. The Wizards, Yeah, they beat the Kings guys

(23:21):
one sixteen to one eleven. So Sacramento has lost seven out.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Of their last eight.

Speaker 12 (23:26):
No bueno. Halfway through the fourth quarter, the Heat still
beating the Celtics in Boston one o two to ninety five.
Tyler Hero leading the way from Miami twenty points and
six assists. Early in the third quarter, Rockets all over
the Jazz eighty four to fifty. Dylan Brooks did get
a technical. I think it's number sixteen, so he might
be suspended for the next Houston game. But he did
get a technical because he did a little kicky flip

(23:47):
like he likes to do. Two minutes to go in
the first half and the Hawks are up on the
Mavericks sixty four to sixty. In friendly fire, Anthony Davis
took an elbow to the eye, was bleeding, went to
the locker room. He's got thirteen points and six rebounds
after the first to the Spurs beating the Nuggets thirty
three to twenty one, and I'm the ice. Alex Ovechkin
has scored a goal. He has three goals away from

(24:08):
breaking Wain Gretzky's all time goals records.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
I'm telling you I'm not going to all celebrate. Does
he have to get fifty more? Yes, I'm not gonna
recognize it because they're not.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
That rookie season. That's fifty from the great one.

Speaker 13 (24:22):
I mean, I hear you.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
But it's good to count.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
It's good.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
It's a good account.

Speaker 12 (24:25):
But the Capitals are losing to the Hurricanes five to one,
seven minutes to go in the game.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
All right, thanks, thank.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
You, mont have a great nice and make sure you
listen to this next interview.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
One of my favorite people in the world.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yes, that's Rightercomedy Line for tiereck dot com Studios, and
we have a guest right now. As you just mentioned,
Hall of Famer somebody who allegedly right dunked on you.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Is that what coming? I'm bad. I thought she dunked.
She did not, don't w woah. She hits some threes
in your face. Post you up.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Nancy Lieberman is our guests on the Odd Couple. Nancy,
I'm excited to get a chance to talk to you.
Rob obviously is a massive, massive fan. And then then
se your praises, how are you?

Speaker 11 (25:02):
I am wonderful and he is my lifelong brother and
I love him and we have a history for twenty
nine years. I believe it, so I'm so proud of him.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Well, I think, Nancy. I'm proud of you and all
the work you're doing. Obviously, what a basketball icon legend.
I have a sort of statue to have at your
alma mata, which is just beautiful.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
That must have been incredible.

Speaker 11 (25:29):
Yes, yeah, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
It's an old dominion.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
It's right out there. I saw it. I couldn't believe it.
I was just like me, but we were.

Speaker 11 (25:40):
That's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, that that congratulations on that for real. Seriously, that's
some big stuff there.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
But we want to talk. We want to talk some
hoops with you right now.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
And there's so many different conversations I would have because,
by the way, Nancy, sometimes I need you here.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Because I gotta yell at Rod. Yeah that's okay, because I.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Tell him to watch some of these ladies hoop. The
NCAA Tournament Women's Tournament has been outstands any and it
has been for several years, but especially the last few seasons.
What makes it so special right now, there's a there's
a thought process, Nancy that so many of the top
guys in college they come, you know, they're there for
five six months and then they're out of here.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
You never really get to know them.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Whereas we've seen all of Page, we saw all of injuries,
we saw all of Kaitlin Clark, we saw all of
you know, you fill in the blank.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
And now we're seeing all of Juju.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Wishing her the best and she'll play four or five
years and it starts to build the rivalries and we
know them and the household names. What makes the women's
game so great right now? And maybe of course it
was in years previous, but we're seeing at heights that
it hadn't been before.

Speaker 11 (26:39):
Well, we we have big superstars and they have had
like you said, you know, you saw you know Juju
the last couple of years. You saw Page for her
four or five years at Yukon. You know she had
two years, he had injuries. You get a chance to
see la Lauren Betts, you see all these women and

(27:01):
you know Caitlyn. I really think it happened here in
Dallas two years ago. It was just like a breakout.
The AAC, you know, was sold out within minutes of
tickets going on sale. The ratings were exploding, and you know,
guys like yourself were you were talking about us on TV,

(27:24):
on radio. The game started going on network TV. So
it brought the Commons fan, uh, you know, somebody who
doesn't really watch sports that much, and all of a sudden,
people realize, not only you know, are they you know,
great ladies, but they're amazing athletes and they're fun to watch.
And then last year the w NBA and what Caitlyn

(27:47):
did and Angel and the personalities and Asia Wilson. It's
a big time for women in sports right now.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
No doubt about it. It'll be interesting to see how
it goes to the next level. It's just a shame juju.
Couldn't they, you know, could have stayed healthy and that
would have put the ice in on the cake the
next year, on the second year in a row. But
let me ask you this, Nancy, when we go over
to the men and you know, basketball up and down
men's NBA college, all that Cinderella is just officially dead.

(28:19):
We saw all number ones and Nancy with the nil.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Like everybody thought that would make it a.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Level playing field, but in reality, the big schools have
all the money, so it's not really level. And I
think the mid majors and smaller schools are not going
to be able to compete going forward in the big games.

Speaker 11 (28:37):
Yeah, I think NIL to me is discriminatory because, like
you just said, if you don't have money, you don't
have money. So you can't pay people on all different
levels of universities. So yeah, you know, the blue bloods
and people the big football programs, they're going to be

(28:58):
able to offer you money to female athletes to either
stay in school or hop in the portal. We just
saw where Olivia Miles decided not to have her fifth
year yesterday. I think it was at Notre Dame. She's
going to get into the portal and find a new
school and I'm sure somebody will pay her, and she

(29:19):
deserves to be paid. So there needs to be some
rules regulations around NIL. Like I'm all four athletes getting paid,
but there's no way to monitor how this can help
or hurt. And I don't know if it has to
be government regulation or NCAA regulation, but something has to happen.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
But Nancy and I want to say this really quickly.
The schools, had they paid the money rather than outside sources,
they could have regulated it, but they didn't want any
part of it. And I believe that's where the issue
comes in. That's why is the wild wild West you
know what I mean, if they would have taken all
that TV money that they're getting and made some sort

(30:02):
of pool to pay people, and people could pay into
the school and then you know vivv a m But
they wanted no part of paying the athletes.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
And that's why we have what we have. Am I
wrong on that?

Speaker 11 (30:14):
No, You're a spot on, absolutely spot on.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
You know.

Speaker 11 (30:17):
I remember, you know when Old Dominion, when we were
winning back to back national championships, and you know, we
were women's basketball before Tennessee, Yukon South Carolina and bringing
the media, the national media, and you know, I remember
thinking I can't even pay to go out and have
pizza tonight because I was the poor kids from New York.

(30:39):
So you know, I guess old the Minion could have
gone on in probation, you know, because you know, people
were kind enough to help me get some nice clothes.
I was representing America, you know, at the Olympics. I
didn't have money to go to the mall. So yeah,
they're there. It's a worldwide today, and it wasn't started

(31:02):
by the student.

Speaker 8 (31:03):
Athletes, not at all.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
We have our guests, of course, Nancy Lieberman Hall of Famer, Yes,
that's right on with the odd couple. Robin Kelvin on
a worship Wednesday, I go to the NBA now, Nancy,
and one of the things we just had a debate
about there, but there is no debate about how spectacular
Yokich is. When you look at the game in the
NBA now where this is the skill level, the diversity

(31:26):
you got, you know, so many guys who are MVPs,
You got European players. You almostart to wonder kind of
American bard player win one like they've won the last
they want. Yeah, exactly what do you make of the
game right now? When you're watching it? Are you pleased? A?
You're happy? Do you like the style in what you're seeing?
A lot of folks shooting a lot of three? How
many threes?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
From me? Nancy, I just don't like it?

Speaker 11 (31:46):
Well, it's different. But you know, when they opened up
the Olympics back in nineteen eighty eight and David Stern
was working with you know, FIBA to make basketball you
know worldwide, it was going to be a penalty down
the road a man. Female male coaches were going over
to Europe in the off season. They were coaching their

(32:07):
national teams. They were coaching all these different you know,
club teams, teaching him how to play basketball the American way,
and then we learned how to play and teach basketball
the euro away member with draz and Petrovitch and you
know so many of those guys back in the eighties nineties. Well,

(32:29):
now you have Dirk. You know, you had Dirk, and
you have Luka, and you have you know, Joker, and
he's unbelievable for anybody to say that that guy is
not one of the greatest players in the history of
the game. Get sixty one the other night last night,
triple double, right, and he has a championship. Don't make

(32:49):
it a black white thing. Make it a talent.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Thing, Nancy.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
I keep telling people, stop discounting this guy, because he's
a tremendous player.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
People discount We've got three.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Some people just don't like all Right, last thing, Nancy,
we got to run. We got about them minute. Tell
us about the Big Three. When is the year kickoff again?
I think this is year seven.

Speaker 11 (33:11):
For you, Yes, seven of eight. I love working for
ice Cube. I adore the man. We open up in
Chicago on June fourteenth. Our games are on CBS every Saturday,
we've now gone to a location based league where now
we're the Dallas Power or the La Riot or the

(33:33):
Miami three oh five. I love the fact that so
many players, NBA players are wanting to step from retire,
not even retirement, but a stepping stone to retirement by
playing in the Big Three. We outrate MLS, NASCAR, Tennis, golf,

(33:54):
the w NBA Summer League. It's a happening. It is
so cool to see the fans in the area. I mean,
nobody looks like each other, and they're high five in
and hugging, and the music and these guys, well you've
seen it. These guys can ball. They're no joke.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Oh you got some snow rail hoopers in there. He
gets competitive.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
I took my daughters out to a Big Three game
as well out here in La so I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Nancy, Thank you so much, Love you, thank you so much. Pleasure,
Love you too.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
You guys are awesome, all right, Nan, They're great.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Nancy Liberman there. Make sure you check out when the
Big Three season starts as well. Last Call eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven ninety nas
Call Tom, I'm bred s here I know, dude. Let's
do it all right. Hit us up if you want
to get in. We talked about a lot. It's the
Hot Couple Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 13 (34:40):
It's last call time on the Odd Couple. If you
had a take and couldn't get in a whole show,
where's your chip? You'll call it your point us eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Hurry up, Robin Kelvin,
gotta get out of here. Fox Sports Radio has the
best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of
our shows at Fox sports Radio dot Com and within

(35:01):
the iHeartRadio app. Search f s R to listen live.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Fox Sports Radio. A couple your boys one more time,
Robin Kelvin on a worship Wednesday, Alex, I'm about to
get you some new soundtrack guy, because ja No, it's
because YadA.

Speaker 7 (35:18):
You can't just walk into the show demand things.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
You were gone. He was gone. That's why you were
going for four days. First, Oh you did miss me?

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Speaker 2 (35:47):
This is the last court.

Speaker 8 (35:54):
It's it's last call.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Last call. Time on the oncome.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Oh DoD just coming back in his game.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
By the way, all right, Lasko, who we got? All right,
let's do it.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Mark and Sacramento, you're in the couple of Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
You are the last call. Mark.

Speaker 8 (36:15):
What's going on? Rob? And mister Washington, you guys are
doing Wait a.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Minute, I thought you said it was Mark. I ain't know.
Rick Ross was calling a all right? What in the
Rick Ross the boss?

Speaker 8 (36:24):
Uh? I just wanted to say, on Joker, leave it
a little bit on Joker. He may be a splashy,
but because I look at the nuances of the game.
I love watching him play. It's like watching a guy
with a box cutter just sliced the guys up man. No,
he's not outletic, but he slices him up. Man. He's
just so good at that. And I want to say

(36:45):
to to how he thinks. He just you can see
him out thinking guys, and he's the closest thing I've
seen to Larry Bird just out think they just out
thank you, step ahead of you, just like Larry Bird
was not in the skill set.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I get what you mean. Absolutely, he's a tremendous play.

Speaker 8 (37:04):
Yeah, no doubt, got ahead of everybody. So you guys
have a great one. And mister mister Parker, I sent
you something I want you to see. To take a look.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
I'll check the email. Thanks, Mark, appreciate it. Let's go
here real quick. Season two of the UFL. Anybody know
what that is?

Speaker 8 (37:22):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
You finna, you're finna tell me league you find to
tell me you're finna tell me? Well, I was the
merger what was that?

Speaker 12 (37:30):
Bow?

Speaker 2 (37:30):
The merger of the u s FL and XFL and
some other fl FL. Right, is that what it was?

Speaker 5 (37:36):
That sounds right?

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Yeah, something like that Boa Now you love bo loves football, right, Yeah,
I mean the man got on a USC Trojan sweatshirt
and a Rams hat.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
My god, I'm gonna guess that Bow doesn't watch it.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
And and and you.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Know what's terrible about it. It's the second season.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
The first game last year did a one point one
million Wow, Okay, a lot of Yeah, first game this
year already down the six hundred and ninety thousand, and
you know, the numbers only go down. And the idea
all I'm saying is people love football, but at the

(38:13):
highest level.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
And that's what I think.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
They think they could put any football game on and
people are gonna watch, and I don't understand that.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
And I thought they just wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
I mean, this is where money becomes a problem because
their answer is going to be quiet. They'll tell you
a bunch of things, right, but at the end that television,
you know what I mean. And it's still the people
are saying. At the end of the day, football is
so huge America. Even if we just get five percent
of what the normal you know, viewership would be for
an NFL game, We're good.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
It ain't happening.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
You can't give me Lamar Jackson all season, Josh Allen,
it ain't turn around and give me That's what I'm saying.
Then then I don't even know, and then you're on
not even we do. We don't even know who out there.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
With the start of the baseball season too, now you're
playing football during baseball.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Baseball just started. Is getting think think of things for people?
March madness. They're full of madness. Does that make sense
that start the league? Then in April with all the
stuff going on you just mentioned it, I thought, and
the NHL playoffs are about to start. R right, dude, No,
seriously give us And they keep trying it because again
football is king and they think if we just get

(39:19):
some small percentage will be high. Well that's what they're
gonna get, a small percentage. And guess who ain't gonna
be a part of that percentage? Your boy and me,
Danel and bo and TV.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Theme song on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
Oh yeah, the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon is
coming up next.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
I never miss your radio show.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
I never hear it, so I never miss it. Did
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