February 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington, live from Media Row in New Orleans, continue their reactions to the Luka Doncic trade, and Rob breaks down why this seismic move will usher in the Franchise Empowerment Era in the NBA. The Athletic's Senior NBA Reporter covering the Lakers Jovan Buha joins the guys to give insight on how Los Angeles landed Luka. Plus, could Luke be the new Magic?!
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Chiefs and the Eagles and the super Bowl we're expecting
could be classic and all that, but it's hard when
you have such a blockbust to trade. And Charles Barker
gave up a good point. I would listening to him
on the NBA team fantastic point, go ahead, and he
was just saying, like, very seldom do you get two
stars traded for each other. It's usually like your stars
(02:08):
going and you're getting some players and picks, but nobody
of equal value are close to it. And these are
two big time players, even a d I mean a.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Top dude this business been and he's been incredible this year,
arguably the best defensive player in the year, giving you
twenty five twenty six at night. So up until this
recent injury, Stent been injury free for the most part
of the last year and a half almost two.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Like that him alone would have been ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Let's say it was like a D what's the comm
ad for cat, right or something like that. You're like,
what that alone would have been huge once you through
Luca in we never seen anything.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Like that, right.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
But Yeah, here's the thing that I came away with this,
I really did, and I thought about it, and and
you know, we had talked for a long time after
Lebron started hopping around putting together dream team in the
big threes and all that kind of went on for the.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
NBA for for a while.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I think we have entered the franchise empowerment era, and
I think this was the first step. This is something
we had never seen where a team has a twenty
five year old international star, All Pro or first team NBA.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Let's say it do right way.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Took a team to the NBA finals eight months ago
and they said, hey, guess what the price tag is?
Three hundred and fifty million dollars this summer. Thank you
but no, thank you. They basically and they did it
in the cloak of night and Nate and Nate and
they ditched them where basically, you know, it's like that
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date that you're with and you're like, hey, you know what,
just about the car for a minute, I need to
exactly and you and you're on your way and you
just leave her by the side. I know that's not mainly,
but you get my point. I've not done that, but
you get my point. That's what it felt like. This
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wasn't hey, Luca, we just can't afford you. We want
to do the best that's for you. No, this was like, no,
we we don't believe we can win with you. And
and there are reasons why not that you.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Want to, not that you're not a great player, but
there are other things that we feel are an issue.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
And I really believe that we're gonna enter this.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
This was the first ownership group to step up and
swing at a big time player and say you know what,
no thanks. And I know fans around NBA America they
got to feel like, maybe this is the start of it.
Maybe the owners will take back the sport and step
up to these guys and say.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
No, we're paying you.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You're gonna honor your contract, and if you don't and
don't do the things we need you to do in
the process of trying to win, we'll move on without you.
And I know it's a cliche line, but Dallas can
really say we didn't win the NBA Championship with Luca
and we could not win it without them, Like, it's
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not like you won me three championships and you're the
reason why there's nowhere I can let you go.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I get that, but we didn't win.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah, and we can move on.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Now here's my big thing.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
There's a couple other targets, and if I'm ownership, I'm
looking at what they just did in Dallas, and then
Philadelphia would embid Joel Embiid Man. You know what, this
don't shape up, things don't work out, We're gonna move
on from Joel embiid down here, right here in New
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Orleans with Zion Williamson.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Enough already, what a disaster this has been.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
You know what, can we package him and move on
from this contract and move on to somebody else making
these guys available.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I'm dead serious.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I think we might be seeing something and a little
bit which is totally different to Jimmy Butler, but it
is management ownership pushing back and not just giving him
all the time, guys complain or say something and right away,
all right, we'll trade you.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Okay, you don't want to be here like they're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
No.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We saw it even a little bit in Brooklyn when
Kevin Durant wanted to be traded. They said, no, we're
not giving you away. And we find a deal that
works for us, maybe we'll do it.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
But we're not nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
We're not just gonna give you away.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Are you teamed up? You know you James and Kyrie
to come here. You think I'm always just getting crazy
on this. So I don't think the NBA is ever
going to change. I think it still will be a
star driven league. I think the league embraces that. I
think they love pushing their guys for it, and because
literally you see their faces and it's just one of
those things, and they're.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Very, very incredibly marketable.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean, you can be Nick Swaggy p Young and
be more famous than some of the biggest names other
sports because it's just the way the NBA is. So
I don't think it will do a full shift or
full onoint eighty. However, I do get to the point
of what you're saying. I've been saying this to you
guys as long as I've been on the show. Remember
we talk about quarterbacks. I remember I said at some
point there's gonna be a team that just says, no, well, no,
(07:18):
what I'm due, I'm brock Perrier, or I'm this, I'm
I'm up. They gave Trevor lawn, they give Dak President,
I'm due. No, I'm not paying you sixty five million
just because technically I have to, because you up next. No,
And I think you're starting to see where owners are
gonna be like, no, I don't want to play Luca.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Now. They could end up being wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
He'd go to Lakers win three rings in seven eight years,
and it'll burn them. But you're starting to see ownership say,
all right, these are the parameters in which we're doing business.
I'm paying player X in this case Luca this crazy money.
If I see he's down with the regiment, down with
the program, down to do the check, the debt, the
dotted line here in all the boxes, I should say
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that we're asking for He didn't do that. At least
what they've saying. What they're telling us, they decided to
move on. Now that is your prerogative as the owner. Now,
I think the owners becomes now, if I'm a fan
of the team, you gotta win, because we can't have
given up Luca. Don't win for the next fifteen to
twenty five years or something, and then he runs off
and runs one, two or three with the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
That'll burn me.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
That'll be a thirty for thirty if that happens, like
the trade that should have never happened.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
And I already see the title, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So they're definitely gonna have to do this and find
a plan in which they can turn the franchise and
run and win again, because if Luca goes to the
Lakers and wins, that's gonna be problematic. But I do
feel like some of these owners are saying, hold on,
I do ownership. Mark Cuban is gone. We don't have
to do business how he would do it. We don't
have to do things that he would. You know, remember
they asked Mark Cuban, would you your wife or Luca?
(08:46):
He said, uh, I'm gonna go ahead and get the
divorce papers ready.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Right now. That was how Mark Cuban is.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
He was that in on Luca in twenty twenty when
they ask him that this ownership says no, So we'll
see how I think that.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I think that's a major shift in that way.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We haven't seen that like like like again, we're not
talking about getting rid of somebody who hasn't who hasn't
put up any numbers or has been a failure or whatever.
You're talking about a guy who's an All NBA player
five times, right, he's twenty five years old. Eight months ago,
and you were in the finals and the favorites because
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of Luca.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You were in the finals and the favorite. Now didn't
you didn't win, Boston won.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
But you see, I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
We're close.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
All we got to do is get them back. We
got the team together and they opted out of that.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
That.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I think that's shocking to me, and I think it
could make other owners take a look at that and say,
what did they do in Dallas? Why are we accepting
this in Philadelphia?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Why are we accepting this in New York.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
That's the one more than any because at least with
EMBIID you could argue it hasn't been in like he
it's his health, you know what I mean, like he.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
There's other thing.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But what I'm saying Zion with you more because but
then beat it has been bad in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
His numbers go down big time. We've talked about this
over and over. I'm just saying, at some point, you
haven't won with them.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's a fair point. You haven't even gotten to the
got to the finals with him. I'm not mad at
him being you know, but I feel like with Zion.
The only reason I bring it up is similar in
you know the regiment, right, you know the plan they
have Zion. You gotta lose weight, Zion. You gotta do this, Zion.
We want you healthier your body. Yes, you are a
freak of nature, and that you can jump this high
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in that fast with that kind of weight. We don't
want you carrying that much weight. Which, by the way,
they send him to the worst place. We already down here.
We are, each of us in gang four pounds absolutely
there twelve hours and so I can't even imagine what
I would do living here. But I think that's why
the Zion one kind of fits in that can he
ever get into shape?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
We need him?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Can we trust the process, if you will, to him
to be all in on what we need him to
do for the next ten years is the face of
the franchise. And that's why I can see them saying,
you know what, he's never healthy anyway, we ain't buying
into the program. We got to move on from Zion
while he's still talented enough and and and relatively not
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hurt that much.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Let's see what we can get for him now. That
doesn't struck.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I could see why New Orleans wan and they're underachieving
with brandon ingram him uh CJ McCollum like, let's move on,
let's get something else.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But I think you know, we talk about these pro
leagues all the time, the copycat league.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Something's working, somebody does something. What are they doing? Wait
a minute, they walked up.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You can't tell me that front offices in gms and
owners didn't take notice of that and say.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
What the what did they do?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Even that to your point, the Lakers, meaning for the
first time, they did something without telling Lebron r R.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
That's to your point.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
The Lakers like that franchise empowerment, GENI bus and you
know they have a relationship with Nico Harris, the GM
of the Mavericks. He has these really close Palanka so
there's obviously some ties there, but for them to do
something without telling Lebron, they would never make a move
without telling Kobe. They will ever make one out Lebron.
So that ownership is trying to finally do something.
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To get traded? I'd love to hear this. What do
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But I had a Glizzie in my mouth.
Speaker 10 (14:37):
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We already got a couple of the fellas lined up.
But anyway, on this one, brother, look y'all are there's
one man in the way of this franchise empowerment movement.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Robin.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
You've been saying it for the last almost ten years.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Adam Silver is the biggest saucy mister, as soft as
they come. He's gonna keep cow towning to guys like
Rich Paul. He's gonna keep letting stuff like oh dear
Fox is gonna.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Get traded behind y'all, back behind the behind the thief
of the Night, the La Lakers bare face robbed the
Dallas Mavericks, it's gonna keep going down like that until
Rich Paul is out of this league. So unfortunately there's
not enough guys like tow Rolly to hold it down.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Love it, love it, Sean, appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yes, let it, let it breathe Alex h mmmmm. Was
the ice cream truck coming over? What's up?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
That's mister softie.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Sometimes you know, I've had those moments and that's playing
in my head.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
It's just not.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Gonna work, all right? Well, no, I thought, I don't know.
I thought the ice cream truck was pulling up one
us up here right now? Who else you got?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
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Speaker 11 (15:51):
What's going on? Thanks for taking the call.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
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Speaker 11 (15:54):
I think Jennie Busch is sending another clear message, and
she set one before in terms of Lebron James and
how he comes in and subtly tries to take over.
Jemmy bust said previously, Lebron James plays on our teams.
He plays on our team, and this deal bringing in
Luka Doncicic, whether Lebron likes it or not, frankly, I
think it's an outstanding opportunity. But she's making it clear
(16:16):
who deface the franchise will be going forward and what
direction the Lakers are going to be going in for
the future. And I do think it's a divergent to
the players kind of dictating the terms, and you're seeing that.
Back to your point, Rob about it empowerment movement pat
Riley Old School nineteen eighty hair split back. Okay, the
standard is the standard and it's not changing for anybody,
(16:37):
including Jimmy Butler. So I'm treating you just like I
would treat you, know, that new rookie on the team
that's trying to work his way up. And because you're
a star and you throw a tantrum, that doesn't mean
that anything is going to move one iota. And so
that's the tone and tenor I feel in the league.
And in conclusion, I do think there's a lot of
other deals in the mix that could be happening. You
(16:58):
look at a team like New Orleans that has to
he died. They could help a team win a championship.
Where were they going? And you know, so, I think
there's a lot of other moves that could be made,
including star players, to kind of shift the balance of
power in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, No, doubt we saw it.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm inciate that trade in Dallas is as big as
it guts man.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
This the movie, that documentary is coming out of this,
because like it's gonna go one way to the other.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Right, it's going to be Dallas took.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Off and who knew that Kyrie and the eighty or
it's going to be they never win for thirty years
and Luca runs off two or three.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Right, right, I mean it's one of the Lakers, and.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
That's why the Lakers are the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Like Dave in Montana, you're in the odd couple of focks.
Which way? What's happening?
Speaker 6 (17:41):
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Speaker 9 (17:41):
Not much?
Speaker 12 (17:42):
Thanks for taking the call, guys. How you're doing the sevenon?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
We're doing great? How are you, Dave?
Speaker 12 (17:47):
I'm great, Thanks for taking the call. And you know,
I would love to see guys like Indeed and Zion
get moved. And I don't think it's just about wont
I think it's what the league needs. Yeah, the reason
the Raidings are in the tank is because people are
tired of this act.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I agree with you, Dave.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I think that this is something like to stop these
guys at from from being big babies and knowing that
we don't have to play part hard for the All
Star Game. We don't have to play when we don't
want to play. Like all this kind of stuff has
turned people off, and it feels like and that's why
the Adam Silver being mister softy because he has allowed
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a lot of stuff to go on in his watch.
You know this, David Stern, it wasn't playing.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Somebody tweeting said David Stern rolling Ron is great because
he would have never let this. You know that David
Stern would have been like, in the middle of the night,
his pajamas on, what you going where?
Speaker 9 (18:41):
What?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
No? No, no, no, give me my phone, give me,
give me a back phone. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It will be interesting to see how this plans. I
still think the NBA more than any other sport, at
least here domestically in America. I still think it's gonna
be player driven. I think it gets starred. I think
they ain know that. But I think there's a way
to find a great balance between commissioner to ownership to
players where they all understand we need each other.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
No, I you know, but you can't. And I hate
that term letting a.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I don't like that. I just don't. But but my
whole thing is.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You own the team and you got to start doing
what's best in your best interest. And I don't think
that's always been the case of late where people felt compelled. Well,
I just that's my pick. I can't let him go
even though we haven't won anything here, even though it's
hard to deal with he doesn't do what we need
him to do, we still can't. That's how Bradley Beal
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got his deal in Washington.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Think about it. They had nothing. Bradley bial didn't win
him anything.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
His turn came up to get paid, and not only
did he get a ridiculous contract that's an albatrost to
to anybody who will touch it, he got a no
trade cause for goud didn't win.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Jack Ron deserves.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But that's what owners rolled over.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Yes, but but you know what I think too.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I think you get organizations that have a championship mindset
who know how to do it. Meaning you know, you
look at and this team doesn't won the championship for
seven about to use but as an example, because they
have been very successful the last fifteen years or so,
I like what OKC does. They've kind of met they've
done they did the Stars and they grew it and
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then they rebuild and like they kind of have an identity.
I think when you look at the Wizards, uh, they're
freaking out because oh my god, Bradley, Bill Manley, they
don't know what to do. They're freaking out. They trade
for Jordan Pool. Why did you think Jordan Pool was
going to be this transformative player? Like they don't know
who they are what they do. And I think you're
gonna start having organizations that, even for the Lakers, who
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they'll have a gap where they don't succeed.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
The Lakers still know who they are.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
We're a star driven team that dangd we get stars
because we're the Lakers and we know how and eventually
we get a championship. We did it with Lebron, we
did it with Kobe, we did it with Shaq and
Kobe we did him with Magic. Like they have an
identity and so this move isn't line for what the
Lakers do. So I think some of the teams you're
talking about they don't know who they are, they don't
have winning weight.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
But it's I get that, but it's not even in
the Dallas Mavericks, who have won a championship.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Okay, they don't have no storied history.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
But this is such an unconventional move because most people,
when it comes to stars, you deal like, well, he's
a start to deal with. You have to accept it
part of it exactly like that. That's what's different here
is that they said, no, we're not We're not paying.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Three fifty for this. We just not do it.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Really seriously lost faith. We're getting ready to talk to
Johann Bua about this. They really lost faith in it, Like,
I mean, whatever the program was, he put a middle
finger up to the program.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
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It is the odd couple having a great time thus far.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Day one Radio Row getting you ready for the Big
Game on Sunday. Right now, we are being joined by
Jovon Buha. Of course he's got the host of the
Bujas Block podcast and covers the Lakers for The Athletic
and Jovann might I also say he's been busy lately.
Guy's been busy. We haven't really chopped it up.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
You're always in the building that spectrum. I'm the morning
anchor there, man, so we got I gotta stop you
next time I see you running around with Geeter and
Ali and the crew.
Speaker 13 (22:41):
Yeah, say what's up? Man? I thank you for having
me on.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
No, I appreciate you. All right, let's just get straight
to it. You're sitting at home whatever you were doing
the other night, Saturday night. This drops Luca to the
Lakers ad to the MAVs. What the heck did you think?
Other than the fact that it was Ai, you didn't
think was real?
Speaker 13 (23:00):
So I got a story for you. I was in
I was at MSG. Yeah, I was in New York.
Lakers just beat the Knicks, one of their best wins
of the season. Beat them. Uh, this is a team
that struggled on the road this year. No Anthony Davis
and they they stop on the Knicks frankly in that
fourth quarter. And that's kind of the postgame story. Lebron
(23:23):
talks about playing with Brownie and how it's it's the
greatest thing that he's ever done in his life. And
I'm kind of thinking, okay, like your relatively chill night,
and then we see this tweet, and uh, I was
myself and in the three other Lakers beat writers that
travel and none of us believed it, and we we
all had to get the second Shams tweet confirming that
(23:46):
he was not hacked, that it was real, and then
all of a sudden, it was a mad dash to
calling and texting people and we were all scrambling all
over the place in the media room. Uh, you know,
try trying to kind of confirm stuff and and get
more information. So yeah, I mean it was a while.
For like just an hour before we were in the
Lakers occer room talking to Lebron, talking to Max Christie
(24:09):
who got traded, and just you know, again, an hour later,
those Lebron's at dinner finding out about it. Max Christie's
a Dallas maverick, and Luca is somehow a Laker, and
I want.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
To go here.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I don't think you could look at this trade and
we'll get to the Lakers side, which of course is
what you cover. But without thinking that Luca was dumped
by the Dallas Mavericks, that they just decided that they
don't care about the All NBA First Team All NBA,
(24:43):
they don't care that they went to the NBA Finals
eight months ago. They don't care that he's only twenty
five years old, a face of a franchise. They just
they were gonna move on because they didn't go around
and try to get the best deal and shop them
to everybody, you know what I mean, Like they this
wasn't a cloak of the night, one o'clock in the morning,
(25:04):
midnight east to east coast. Tom, What do you make
of the idea that they just didn't want them and
they were just gonna move them.
Speaker 13 (25:12):
Yeah, Well, I think if you're the Lakers, you know
that that certainly raises, you know, some some red flags
essocially here in some of the stuff about his way,
the conditioning, the leadership, attitude, stuff whatever behind the scenes.
But at the same time, I think, I mean, like
to your point that they're making a giant bet against
(25:35):
Luka Doncic. Right, this is a guy who, through the
first seven years of his career, as you said, led
a team to the finals, led a team to the
conference finals. He's been all NBA five of his first.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Six years, just like wow.
Speaker 13 (25:48):
It's crazy, Like he's on right now. His path is
like that. There are few players in NBA history who
have had as much individual success as he's had through
the first six and a half seasons of his career.
Like really the last guy who's had it like this,
but it was probably Lebron and we're talking like, you know,
twenty plus years ago at this point. So like to
(26:10):
have the start that he's had and for them to
still trade him it is alarming. I think the bigger
issue with it is, Okay, let's say, like, let's take
it a face value that they have these issues with
him that they decide they want to move on. It's
like why not try to get more? It almost feels
like like you have a Ferrari and you just kind
(26:31):
of take the first offer that you get.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Now, let me ask you this, I'm gonna I'm gonna
give you the reason that I think that they didn't
want to open it up. They didn't want Luca to
say I'm not going or I'm not going to sign
with a team, or do you know what I mean?
Once it becomes public and they got what they were
looking for, they had, they went and they got Anthony Davis.
You know, they said, okay, we'll take that, we got
a first round pick because we need defense, we need
(26:56):
you know, this is what we need to still be
in the mixed fortune and people automatically putting them to
the top of the Western Conference, you know what I
mean on just that move. So if you open it
up or it becomes a debate or conversation, you know,
and then Lucas says I'm not going here, I'm not
going there, or I'm not going to sign there.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Don't you think that's the reason that they did it
the way that they did it.
Speaker 13 (27:22):
I think so, I just think even within even if
you decide, because because the reporting has come out and
Nico Harrison has basically said, like he identified eighty as
the target that they wanted for Luca, and that's fine,
but I think you had to get more in the track.
I think that's where it comes down to. Where it's
like if you look at Rudy Gobert goes for four
first round picks, Mikhale Bridges goes for.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Five to five, then that's got five.
Speaker 13 (27:47):
Kevin Durant went for I think four or five first
round picks and multiple swaps. It's like Luka Doncic is
a twenty five year old who's not even in his
prime yet. Like, and I think I think people are
under selling the eighty part of this, and it's been
quite frankly a little disrespectful of like Anthony Davis alone,
if you were just trading AD, you would get multiple
(28:07):
first for AD. So I guess technically Dallas can argue, hey,
we got AD plus the first like, but still it
felt like, given the Lakers' assets, you had to get
another the other first in this trade, you had to
get Dalton connect, you had to at least get like
a couple of pickswaps. Like I just feel like the
Lakers almost gave up the bare minimum of like what
(28:28):
was a realistic offer and the fact that there weren't
additional assets. I think that's the bigger issue, is like, fine,
if you want to get a d you think that's
going to help you, like, then make that bet, but
get more from the Lakers. And like, frankly, even if
the Lakers gave a second first round pick, I still
think the reaction would have almost been the exact same,
and people would have said Dallas lost the trade. So
(28:50):
I think for Dallas, really, in my opinion, it was
a bad negotiation. I just I just think that they
botched that part of it and should have got more.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Real quick for us about a minute here before we
got a break.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Let me ask you this, Now you've been covering the Lakers,
everybody's talking about the now. Is the Mavericks they got
the now? Lakers got the future? Can the Lakers get
the now? Can they mess around and find a way
to turn this into something this season?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I think so?
Speaker 13 (29:13):
I think the thing to watch over the next three
days is what they do ahead of the trade deadline,
and can they get a center?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Right now?
Speaker 13 (29:19):
Jackson Hayes is their starting center. I don't think that's
going to cut it. You're not going to win a
title starting Jackson Hayes as your center. So if they
can get at least a decent starting center, like we've
seen what Luca could do for he creates love threats
and he makes centers look really good. Lebron has had
similar success with big men in his career, So I
(29:41):
think if you can they can go and get that
type of a big you know, it doesn't have to
be an All Stars doesn't even have to be like
a high level starter. I think if they can go
do that with the pieces that they currently have, not
only anyone's will gonna want to play Luca and Lebron
in a first round series. Like Lucas the second all
time leading scorer right now it points for games in
(30:01):
the playoffs, is the leading scorer all time in total
points in the playoffs. So like, those two guys are
going to be a problem in any series. And I
think they're smart enough to figure out the offensive end,
figure out how to make it work. So they go
get a center in the next three days. Lakers are
gonna be a problem.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
The only problem is they have a number of statues
outside the arena, and now they'll have two on the court.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
The defense line. That's the part.
Speaker 13 (30:26):
That's all talking about defense. Sorry, all right, you know we.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Had to bring that up.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I call they're gonna be the old a curse. They're
gonna be letting people walk through Jovan.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Appreciate you, appreciate it.
Speaker 13 (30:36):
Appreciate you guys, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
You thought he was having a normal night after a
game in Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
He's had a dinner reservation and.
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Speaker 6 (32:25):
Car, last call time on the oddcall, too many strips?
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Who we got, too many scripts, too many scripts out here?
Figured out all right? Who we got?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We got Kevin in Culver City. You are the last
call here all the time.
Speaker 14 (32:57):
Yes, sir, Hey, this is started my drop with us.
Speaker 12 (33:01):
Please sleeve.
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Speaker 9 (33:10):
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Speaker 14 (33:12):
But big of Hey, this was a huge, huge trade
for the Lakers. And this is why Genie busting the
Lakers of the Lakers every era, Jerry West, Magic Johnson,
Kobe Bryant and Luca Dawkers twenty five year old superstar
with the court vision of a magic and the shooting
of Billiya Larry Bird, you covered the NBA rob This
(33:33):
is why the Lakers do what they do. Don't give
me that crap about oh he's not in shape, immaturity.
We had a guy who was in shape, Shaquille O'Neal
won three championships for the Lakers.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
He'll get in shape, he'll get with Lebron, he'll get
with Magic. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
I'll say this, so no, I'll say this, and I
hear your point.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
But there's a reason Dallas cut ties like you could
kid yourself.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
And it might be that it works out for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
But don't if you think, if you if you think
they just gave the Lakers because they wanted to help
the Lakers, I think you're crazy. It's not because they
didn't even press the Lakers to get what. I think
they probably that's how bad it was there, Kevin, are
you still there?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Is still there?
Speaker 9 (34:18):
And I'm not saying they got fleef, but I didn't
say right. People lie like he cohare to the staff Stone.
You want to talk about Kendrick Gammon, the consequence of
Rup and Vakas beat every guy who's the dog in
his era. In one playoff back to back series, he
Betulus Alexander for to beat man. What's the finals?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, but but there's a difference is that they didn't
want to pay him three hundred and fifty million and
the Lakers are gonna pay two thirty. And I'm just
saying there's something there that stopped the Mavericks from doing
what everybody does when they have a young player.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Because even Bradley Beale.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Got paid and and and and uh Zion and got
his contract, Like like, this is what the NBA. This is
against Kevin what normally happens in this league?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Will you admit that.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
I would have paid him? I think it's a bargain.
He's my favorite player to watch. He's got game. And
when you look at the dog like Kobe that dark
in that shot in the game, that's what Lucases. Look
at the crossover with Rudy Cobert.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Kevin Kevin, I'm glad you brought up with keV. You
brought up a great You just brought up Kobe. I
think the Mavericks what if you heard what Niko Harris
said afterwards had the press conference with Jason Kidd, who
was looking like a hostage because he still couldn't believe.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
He was like to say he didn't know what this is.
I want to keep my job.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
They were saying, there's a program we have and you
either win it or you ain't. And we're trying to
have a certain culture and a certain guy. And so
you're right when you mentioned with Kobe Bryant. But the
difference is, and thanks for the call, Kevin. I think
the difference is they're looking at us, look at Kobe.
If the mavericksers say, look at what he was Kobe
Bryant was the best player in the league at a
certain point, it still worked as if he was the
(35:56):
worst player in the league. Lebron James best player in
the league last ten fifty years, it works like he isn't.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
So I agree. I think there's a great pickup for
the for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
But I think they're saying the Mavericks were saying, the
guys we look up to worked as if they were
one of the you know, they worked, not just like
they were at the top. They worked that they were
still at the bottom still, And they don't see that
from him. He's not in shape, he's always not healthy.
So I think that's big for the rude to build
a culture.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Now. They might they're gonna.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
They might, it might, it might be miss right. They
might create.
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Something to say, no, man, you ain't gonna just sit
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could be classic and all that, but it's hard when
you have such a blockbust to trade. And Charles Barker
gave up a good point. I would listening to him
on the NBA team fantastic point, go ahead, and he
was just saying, like, very seldom do you get two
stars traded for each other. It's usually like your stars
(02:08):
going and you're getting some players and picks, but nobody
of equal value are close to it. And these are
two big time players, even a d I mean a.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Top dude this business been and he's been incredible this year,
arguably the best defensive player in the year, giving you
twenty five twenty six at night. So up until this
recent injury, Stent been injury free for the most part
of the last year and a half almost two.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Like that him alone would have been ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Let's say it was like a D what's the comm
ad for cat, right or something like that. You're like,
what that alone would have been huge once you through
Luca in we never seen anything.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Like that, right.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
But Yeah, here's the thing that I came away with this,
I really did, and I thought about it, and and
you know, we had talked for a long time after
Lebron started hopping around putting together dream team in the
big threes and all that kind of went on for the.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
NBA for for a while.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I think we have entered the franchise empowerment era, and
I think this was the first step. This is something
we had never seen where a team has a twenty
five year old international star, All Pro or first team NBA.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Let's say it do right way.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Took a team to the NBA finals eight months ago
and they said, hey, guess what the price tag is?
Three hundred and fifty million dollars this summer. Thank you
but no, thank you. They basically and they did it
in the cloak of night and Nate and Nate and
they ditched them where basically, you know, it's like that
(03:50):
date that you're with and you're like, hey, you know what,
just about the car for a minute, I need to
exactly and you and you're on your way and you
just leave her by the side. I know that's not mainly,
but you get my point. I've not done that, but
you get my point. That's what it felt like. This
(04:10):
wasn't hey, Luca, we just can't afford you. We want
to do the best that's for you. No, this was like, no,
we we don't believe we can win with you. And
and there are reasons why not that you.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Want to, not that you're not a great player, but
there are other things that we feel are an issue.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
And I really believe that we're gonna enter this.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
This was the first ownership group to step up and
swing at a big time player and say you know what,
no thanks. And I know fans around NBA America they
got to feel like, maybe this is the start of it.
Maybe the owners will take back the sport and step
up to these guys and say.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
No, we're paying you.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
You're gonna honor your contract, and if you don't and
don't do the things we need you to do in
the process of trying to win, we'll move on without you.
And I know it's a cliche line, but Dallas can
really say we didn't win the NBA Championship with Luca
and we could not win it without them, Like, it's
(05:18):
not like you won me three championships and you're the
reason why there's nowhere I can let you go.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I get that, but we didn't win.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah, and we can move on.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Now here's my big thing.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
There's a couple other targets, and if I'm ownership, I'm
looking at what they just did in Dallas, and then
Philadelphia would embid Joel Embiid Man. You know what, this
don't shape up, things don't work out, We're gonna move
on from Joel embiid down here, right here in New
(05:50):
Orleans with Zion Williamson.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Enough already, what a disaster this has been.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
You know what, can we package him and move on
from this contract and move on to somebody else making
these guys available.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
I'm dead serious.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I think we might be seeing something and a little
bit which is totally different to Jimmy Butler, but it
is management ownership pushing back and not just giving him
all the time, guys complain or say something and right away,
all right, we'll trade you.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Okay, you don't want to be here like they're saying.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
No.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
We saw it even a little bit in Brooklyn when
Kevin Durant wanted to be traded. They said, no, we're
not giving you away. And we find a deal that
works for us, maybe we'll do it.
Speaker 5 (06:33):
But we're not nothing.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
We're not just gonna give you away.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
Y'all.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Are you teamed up? You know you James and Kyrie
to come here. You think I'm always just getting crazy
on this. So I don't think the NBA is ever
going to change. I think it still will be a
star driven league. I think the league embraces that. I
think they love pushing their guys for it, and because
literally you see their faces and it's just one of
those things, and they're.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Very, very incredibly marketable.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I mean, you can be Nick Swaggy p Young and
be more famous than some of the biggest names other
sports because it's just the way the NBA is. So
I don't think it will do a full shift or
full onoint eighty. However, I do get to the point
of what you're saying. I've been saying this to you
guys as long as I've been on the show. Remember
we talk about quarterbacks. I remember I said at some
point there's gonna be a team that just says, no, well, no,
(07:18):
what I'm due, I'm brock Perrier, or I'm this, I'm
I'm up. They gave Trevor lawn, they give Dak President,
I'm due. No, I'm not paying you sixty five million
just because technically I have to, because you up next. No,
And I think you're starting to see where owners are
gonna be like, no, I don't want to play Luca.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Now. They could end up being wrong.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
He'd go to Lakers win three rings in seven eight years,
and it'll burn them. But you're starting to see ownership say,
all right, these are the parameters in which we're doing business.
I'm paying player X in this case Luca this crazy money.
If I see he's down with the regiment, down with
the program, down to do the check, the debt, the
dotted line here in all the boxes, I should say
(07:58):
that we're asking for He didn't do that. At least
what they've saying. What they're telling us, they decided to
move on. Now that is your prerogative as the owner. Now,
I think the owners becomes now, if I'm a fan
of the team, you gotta win, because we can't have
given up Luca. Don't win for the next fifteen to
twenty five years or something, and then he runs off
and runs one, two or three with the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
That'll burn me.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
That'll be a thirty for thirty if that happens, like
the trade that should have never happened.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
And I already see the title, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
So they're definitely gonna have to do this and find
a plan in which they can turn the franchise and
run and win again, because if Luca goes to the
Lakers and wins, that's gonna be problematic. But I do
feel like some of these owners are saying, hold on,
I do ownership. Mark Cuban is gone. We don't have
to do business how he would do it. We don't
have to do things that he would. You know, remember
they asked Mark Cuban, would you your wife or Luca?
(08:46):
He said, uh, I'm gonna go ahead and get the
divorce papers ready.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Right now. That was how Mark Cuban is.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
He was that in on Luca in twenty twenty when
they ask him that this ownership says no, So we'll
see how I think that.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I think that's a major shift in that way.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
We haven't seen that like like like again, we're not
talking about getting rid of somebody who hasn't who hasn't
put up any numbers or has been a failure or whatever.
You're talking about a guy who's an All NBA player
five times, right, he's twenty five years old. Eight months ago,
and you were in the finals and the favorites because
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of Luca.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
You were in the finals and the favorite. Now didn't
you didn't win, Boston won.
Speaker 5 (09:27):
But you see, I'm.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
We're close.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
All we got to do is get them back. We
got the team together and they opted out of that.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
That.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I think that's shocking to me, and I think it
could make other owners take a look at that and say,
what did they do in Dallas? Why are we accepting
this in Philadelphia?
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Why are we accepting this in New York.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
That's the one more than any because at least with
EMBIID you could argue it hasn't been in like he
it's his health, you know what I mean, like he.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
There's other thing.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
But what I'm saying Zion with you more because but
then beat it has been bad in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
His numbers go down big time. We've talked about this
over and over. I'm just saying, at some point, you
haven't won with them.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's a fair point. You haven't even gotten to the
got to the finals with him. I'm not mad at
him being you know, but I feel like with Zion.
The only reason I bring it up is similar in
you know the regiment, right, you know the plan they
have Zion. You gotta lose weight, Zion. You gotta do this, Zion.
We want you healthier your body. Yes, you are a
freak of nature, and that you can jump this high
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in that fast with that kind of weight. We don't
want you carrying that much weight. Which, by the way,
they send him to the worst place. We already down here.
We are, each of us in gang four pounds absolutely
there twelve hours and so I can't even imagine what
I would do living here. But I think that's why
the Zion one kind of fits in that can he
ever get into shape?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
We need him?
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Can we trust the process, if you will, to him
to be all in on what we need him to
do for the next ten years is the face of
the franchise. And that's why I can see them saying,
you know what, he's never healthy anyway, we ain't buying
into the program. We got to move on from Zion
while he's still talented enough and and and relatively not
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hurt that much.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Let's see what we can get for him now. That
doesn't struck.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
I could see why New Orleans wan and they're underachieving
with brandon ingram him uh CJ McCollum like, let's move on,
let's get something else.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
But I think you know, we talk about these pro
leagues all the time, the copycat league.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Something's working, somebody does something. What are they doing? Wait
a minute, they walked up.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
You can't tell me that front offices in gms and
owners didn't take notice of that and say.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
What the what did they do?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Even that to your point, the Lakers, meaning for the
first time, they did something without telling Lebron r R.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
That's to your point.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
The Lakers like that franchise empowerment, GENI bus and you
know they have a relationship with Nico Harris, the GM
of the Mavericks. He has these really close Palanka so
there's obviously some ties there, but for them to do
something without telling Lebron, they would never make a move
without telling Kobe. They will ever make one out Lebron.
So that ownership is trying to finally do something.
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Dubbed it the franchise Empowerment, Movement Empowerment Era.
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We're trying to do. But by the time you're out
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But I had a Glizzie in my mouth.
Speaker 10 (14:37):
Oh there you go, you come out here, that we
gonna get a big box sweep at that age game.
We already got a couple of the fellas lined up.
But anyway, on this one, brother, look y'all are there's
one man in the way of this franchise empowerment movement.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Robin.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
You've been saying it for the last almost ten years.
Speaker 8 (14:56):
Adam Silver is the biggest saucy mister, as soft as
they come. He's gonna keep cow towning to guys like
Rich Paul. He's gonna keep letting stuff like oh dear
Fox is gonna.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
Get traded behind y'all, back behind the behind the thief
of the Night, the La Lakers bare face robbed the
Dallas Mavericks, it's gonna keep going down like that until
Rich Paul is out of this league. So unfortunately there's
not enough guys like tow Rolly to hold it down.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Love it, love it, Sean, appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Yes, let it, let it breathe Alex h mmmmm. Was
the ice cream truck coming over? What's up?
Speaker 4 (15:33):
That's mister softie.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Sometimes you know, I've had those moments and that's playing
in my head.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
It's just not.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
Gonna work, all right? Well, no, I thought, I don't know.
I thought the ice cream truck was pulling up one
us up here right now? Who else you got?
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Uh? Andre from Massachusetts? A couple Fox Sports Radio, Hey.
Speaker 11 (15:51):
What's going on? Thanks for taking the call.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Listen.
Speaker 11 (15:54):
I think Jennie Busch is sending another clear message, and
she set one before in terms of Lebron James and
how he comes in and subtly tries to take over.
Jemmy bust said previously, Lebron James plays on our teams.
He plays on our team, and this deal bringing in
Luka Doncicic, whether Lebron likes it or not, frankly, I
think it's an outstanding opportunity. But she's making it clear
(16:16):
who deface the franchise will be going forward and what
direction the Lakers are going to be going in for
the future. And I do think it's a divergent to
the players kind of dictating the terms, and you're seeing that.
Back to your point, Rob about it empowerment movement pat
Riley Old School nineteen eighty hair split back. Okay, the
standard is the standard and it's not changing for anybody,
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including Jimmy Butler. So I'm treating you just like I
would treat you, know, that new rookie on the team
that's trying to work his way up. And because you're
a star and you throw a tantrum, that doesn't mean
that anything is going to move one iota. And so
that's the tone and tenor I feel in the league.
And in conclusion, I do think there's a lot of
other deals in the mix that could be happening. You
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look at a team like New Orleans that has to
he died. They could help a team win a championship.
Where were they going? And you know, so, I think
there's a lot of other moves that could be made,
including star players, to kind of shift the balance of
power in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
Yeah, No, doubt we saw it.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I'm inciate that trade in Dallas is as big as
it guts man.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
This the movie, that documentary is coming out of this,
because like it's gonna go one way to the other.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Right, it's going to be Dallas took.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Off and who knew that Kyrie and the eighty or
it's going to be they never win for thirty years
and Luca runs off two or three.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Right, right, I mean it's one of the Lakers, and.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
That's why the Lakers are the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Like Dave in Montana, you're in the odd couple of focks.
Which way? What's happening?
Speaker 6 (17:41):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (17:41):
Not much?
Speaker 12 (17:42):
Thanks for taking the call, guys. How you're doing the sevenon?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
We're doing great? How are you, Dave?
Speaker 12 (17:47):
I'm great, Thanks for taking the call. And you know,
I would love to see guys like Indeed and Zion
get moved. And I don't think it's just about wont
I think it's what the league needs. Yeah, the reason
the Raidings are in the tank is because people are
tired of this act.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
I agree with you, Dave.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I think that this is something like to stop these
guys at from from being big babies and knowing that
we don't have to play part hard for the All
Star Game. We don't have to play when we don't
want to play. Like all this kind of stuff has
turned people off, and it feels like and that's why
the Adam Silver being mister softy because he has allowed
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a lot of stuff to go on in his watch.
You know this, David Stern, it wasn't playing.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Somebody tweeting said David Stern rolling Ron is great because
he would have never let this. You know that David
Stern would have been like, in the middle of the night,
his pajamas on, what you going where?
Speaker 9 (18:41):
What?
Speaker 5 (18:41):
No? No, no, no, give me my phone, give me,
give me a back phone. You know.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It will be interesting to see how this plans. I
still think the NBA more than any other sport, at
least here domestically in America. I still think it's gonna
be player driven. I think it gets starred. I think
they ain know that. But I think there's a way
to find a great balance between commissioner to ownership to
players where they all understand we need each other.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
No, I you know, but you can't. And I hate
that term letting a.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I don't like that. I just don't. But but my
whole thing is.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
You own the team and you got to start doing
what's best in your best interest. And I don't think
that's always been the case of late where people felt compelled. Well,
I just that's my pick. I can't let him go
even though we haven't won anything here, even though it's
hard to deal with he doesn't do what we need
him to do, we still can't. That's how Bradley Beal
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got his deal in Washington.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Think about it. They had nothing. Bradley bial didn't win
him anything.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
His turn came up to get paid, and not only
did he get a ridiculous contract that's an albatrost to
to anybody who will touch it, he got a no
trade cause for goud didn't win.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Jack Ron deserves.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
But that's what owners rolled over.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
Yes, but but you know what I think too.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I think you get organizations that have a championship mindset
who know how to do it. Meaning you know, you
look at and this team doesn't won the championship for
seven about to use but as an example, because they
have been very successful the last fifteen years or so,
I like what OKC does. They've kind of met they've
done they did the Stars and they grew it and
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then they rebuild and like they kind of have an identity.
I think when you look at the Wizards, uh, they're
freaking out because oh my god, Bradley, Bill Manley, they
don't know what to do. They're freaking out. They trade
for Jordan Pool. Why did you think Jordan Pool was
going to be this transformative player? Like they don't know
who they are what they do. And I think you're
gonna start having organizations that, even for the Lakers, who
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they'll have a gap where they don't succeed.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
The Lakers still know who they are.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
We're a star driven team that dangd we get stars
because we're the Lakers and we know how and eventually
we get a championship. We did it with Lebron, we
did it with Kobe, we did it with Shaq and
Kobe we did him with Magic. Like they have an
identity and so this move isn't line for what the
Lakers do. So I think some of the teams you're
talking about they don't know who they are, they don't
have winning weight.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
But it's I get that, but it's not even in
the Dallas Mavericks, who have won a championship.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Okay, they don't have no storied history.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
But this is such an unconventional move because most people,
when it comes to stars, you deal like, well, he's
a start to deal with. You have to accept it
part of it exactly like that. That's what's different here
is that they said, no, we're not We're not paying.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Three fifty for this. We just not do it.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Really seriously lost faith. We're getting ready to talk to
Johann Bua about this. They really lost faith in it, Like,
I mean, whatever the program was, he put a middle
finger up to the program.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
So we'll have Yovahn in just a moment.
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Day one Radio Row getting you ready for the Big
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Jovon Buha. Of course he's got the host of the
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and Jovann might I also say he's been busy lately.
Guy's been busy. We haven't really chopped it up.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Man.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
You're always in the building that spectrum. I'm the morning
anchor there, man, so we got I gotta stop you
next time I see you running around with Geeter and
Ali and the crew.
Speaker 13 (22:41):
Yeah, say what's up? Man? I thank you for having
me on.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
No, I appreciate you. All right, let's just get straight
to it. You're sitting at home whatever you were doing
the other night, Saturday night. This drops Luca to the
Lakers ad to the MAVs. What the heck did you think?
Other than the fact that it was Ai, you didn't
think was real?
Speaker 13 (23:00):
So I got a story for you. I was in
I was at MSG. Yeah, I was in New York.
Lakers just beat the Knicks, one of their best wins
of the season. Beat them. Uh, this is a team
that struggled on the road this year. No Anthony Davis
and they they stop on the Knicks frankly in that
fourth quarter. And that's kind of the postgame story. Lebron
(23:23):
talks about playing with Brownie and how it's it's the
greatest thing that he's ever done in his life. And
I'm kind of thinking, okay, like your relatively chill night,
and then we see this tweet, and uh, I was
myself and in the three other Lakers beat writers that
travel and none of us believed it, and we we
all had to get the second Shams tweet confirming that
(23:46):
he was not hacked, that it was real, and then
all of a sudden, it was a mad dash to
calling and texting people and we were all scrambling all
over the place in the media room. Uh, you know,
try trying to kind of confirm stuff and and get
more information. So yeah, I mean it was a while.
For like just an hour before we were in the
Lakers occer room talking to Lebron, talking to Max Christie
(24:09):
who got traded, and just you know, again, an hour later,
those Lebron's at dinner finding out about it. Max Christie's
a Dallas maverick, and Luca is somehow a Laker, and
I want.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
To go here.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I don't think you could look at this trade and
we'll get to the Lakers side, which of course is
what you cover. But without thinking that Luca was dumped
by the Dallas Mavericks, that they just decided that they
don't care about the All NBA First Team All NBA,
(24:43):
they don't care that they went to the NBA Finals
eight months ago. They don't care that he's only twenty
five years old, a face of a franchise. They just
they were gonna move on because they didn't go around
and try to get the best deal and shop them
to everybody, you know what I mean, Like they this
wasn't a cloak of the night, one o'clock in the morning,
(25:04):
midnight east to east coast. Tom, What do you make
of the idea that they just didn't want them and
they were just gonna move them.
Speaker 13 (25:12):
Yeah, Well, I think if you're the Lakers, you know
that that certainly raises, you know, some some red flags
essocially here in some of the stuff about his way,
the conditioning, the leadership, attitude, stuff whatever behind the scenes.
But at the same time, I think, I mean, like
to your point that they're making a giant bet against
(25:35):
Luka Doncic. Right, this is a guy who, through the
first seven years of his career, as you said, led
a team to the finals, led a team to the
conference finals. He's been all NBA five of his first.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Six years, just like wow.
Speaker 13 (25:48):
It's crazy, Like he's on right now. His path is
like that. There are few players in NBA history who
have had as much individual success as he's had through
the first six and a half seasons of his career.
Like really the last guy who's had it like this,
but it was probably Lebron and we're talking like, you know,
twenty plus years ago at this point. So like to
(26:10):
have the start that he's had and for them to
still trade him it is alarming. I think the bigger
issue with it is, Okay, let's say, like, let's take
it a face value that they have these issues with
him that they decide they want to move on. It's
like why not try to get more? It almost feels
like like you have a Ferrari and you just kind
(26:31):
of take the first offer that you get.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Now, let me ask you this, I'm gonna I'm gonna
give you the reason that I think that they didn't
want to open it up. They didn't want Luca to
say I'm not going or I'm not going to sign
with a team, or do you know what I mean?
Once it becomes public and they got what they were
looking for, they had, they went and they got Anthony Davis.
You know, they said, okay, we'll take that, we got
a first round pick because we need defense, we need
(26:56):
you know, this is what we need to still be
in the mixed fortune and people automatically putting them to
the top of the Western Conference, you know what I
mean on just that move. So if you open it
up or it becomes a debate or conversation, you know,
and then Lucas says I'm not going here, I'm not
going there, or I'm not going to sign there.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Don't you think that's the reason that they did it
the way that they did it.
Speaker 13 (27:22):
I think so, I just think even within even if
you decide, because because the reporting has come out and
Nico Harrison has basically said, like he identified eighty as
the target that they wanted for Luca, and that's fine,
but I think you had to get more in the track.
I think that's where it comes down to. Where it's
like if you look at Rudy Gobert goes for four
first round picks, Mikhale Bridges goes for.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Five to five, then that's got five.
Speaker 13 (27:47):
Kevin Durant went for I think four or five first
round picks and multiple swaps. It's like Luka Doncic is
a twenty five year old who's not even in his
prime yet. Like, and I think I think people are
under selling the eighty part of this, and it's been
quite frankly a little disrespectful of like Anthony Davis alone,
if you were just trading AD, you would get multiple
(28:07):
first for AD. So I guess technically Dallas can argue, hey,
we got AD plus the first like, but still it
felt like, given the Lakers' assets, you had to get
another the other first in this trade, you had to
get Dalton connect, you had to at least get like
a couple of pickswaps. Like I just feel like the
Lakers almost gave up the bare minimum of like what
(28:28):
was a realistic offer and the fact that there weren't
additional assets. I think that's the bigger issue, is like, fine,
if you want to get a d you think that's
going to help you, like, then make that bet, but
get more from the Lakers. And like, frankly, even if
the Lakers gave a second first round pick, I still
think the reaction would have almost been the exact same,
and people would have said Dallas lost the trade. So
(28:50):
I think for Dallas, really, in my opinion, it was
a bad negotiation. I just I just think that they
botched that part of it and should have got more.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Real quick for us about a minute here before we
got a break.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Let me ask you this, Now you've been covering the Lakers,
everybody's talking about the now. Is the Mavericks they got
the now? Lakers got the future? Can the Lakers get
the now? Can they mess around and find a way
to turn this into something this season?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
I think so?
Speaker 13 (29:13):
I think the thing to watch over the next three
days is what they do ahead of the trade deadline,
and can they get a center?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Right now?
Speaker 13 (29:19):
Jackson Hayes is their starting center. I don't think that's
going to cut it. You're not going to win a
title starting Jackson Hayes as your center. So if they
can get at least a decent starting center, like we've
seen what Luca could do for he creates love threats
and he makes centers look really good. Lebron has had
similar success with big men in his career, So I
(29:41):
think if you can they can go and get that
type of a big you know, it doesn't have to
be an All Stars doesn't even have to be like
a high level starter. I think if they can go
do that with the pieces that they currently have, not
only anyone's will gonna want to play Luca and Lebron
in a first round series. Like Lucas the second all
time leading scorer right now it points for games in
(30:01):
the playoffs, is the leading scorer all time in total
points in the playoffs. So like, those two guys are
going to be a problem in any series. And I
think they're smart enough to figure out the offensive end,
figure out how to make it work. So they go
get a center in the next three days. Lakers are
gonna be a problem.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
The only problem is they have a number of statues
outside the arena, and now they'll have two on the court.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
The defense line. That's the part.
Speaker 13 (30:26):
That's all talking about defense. Sorry, all right, you know we.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Had to bring that up.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I call they're gonna be the old a curse. They're
gonna be letting people walk through Jovan.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Appreciate you, appreciate it.
Speaker 13 (30:36):
Appreciate you guys, Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
You thought he was having a normal night after a
game in Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
He's had a dinner reservation and.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
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Yes, and I can't wait to wear my stuff down
here too for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
We got may or may not have brought like a
lot for all this stuff, all right, it stopping down
for last call, the last.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
Car, last call time on the oddcall, too many strips?
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Who we got, too many scripts, too many scripts out here?
Figured out all right? Who we got?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We got Kevin in Culver City. You are the last
call here all the time.
Speaker 14 (32:57):
Yes, sir, Hey, this is started my drop with us.
Speaker 12 (33:01):
Please sleeve.
Speaker 14 (33:02):
Gotta give us shout to my girl Samina Carpenter winning
that Grammy. She gave us a shadow to say their
mom got us all with the singing lessons. So that's
where that please Slee.
Speaker 9 (33:10):
Started with Sabrino Carpenter.
Speaker 14 (33:12):
But big of Hey, this was a huge, huge trade
for the Lakers. And this is why Genie busting the
Lakers of the Lakers every era, Jerry West, Magic Johnson,
Kobe Bryant and Luca Dawkers twenty five year old superstar
with the court vision of a magic and the shooting
of Billiya Larry Bird, you covered the NBA rob This
(33:33):
is why the Lakers do what they do. Don't give
me that crap about oh he's not in shape, immaturity.
We had a guy who was in shape, Shaquille O'Neal
won three championships for the Lakers.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
He'll get in shape, he'll get with Lebron, he'll get
with Magic. And let me tell you something.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
I'll say this, so no, I'll say this, and I
hear your point.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
But there's a reason Dallas cut ties like you could
kid yourself.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
And it might be that it works out for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
But don't if you think, if you if you think
they just gave the Lakers because they wanted to help
the Lakers, I think you're crazy. It's not because they
didn't even press the Lakers to get what. I think
they probably that's how bad it was there, Kevin, are
you still there?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
Is still there?
Speaker 9 (34:18):
And I'm not saying they got fleef, but I didn't
say right. People lie like he cohare to the staff Stone.
You want to talk about Kendrick Gammon, the consequence of
Rup and Vakas beat every guy who's the dog in
his era. In one playoff back to back series, he
Betulus Alexander for to beat man. What's the finals?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, but but there's a difference is that they didn't
want to pay him three hundred and fifty million and
the Lakers are gonna pay two thirty. And I'm just
saying there's something there that stopped the Mavericks from doing
what everybody does when they have a young player.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Because even Bradley Beale.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Got paid and and and and uh Zion and got
his contract, Like like, this is what the NBA. This is
against Kevin what normally happens in this league?
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Will you admit that.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
I would have paid him? I think it's a bargain.
He's my favorite player to watch. He's got game. And
when you look at the dog like Kobe that dark
in that shot in the game, that's what Lucases. Look
at the crossover with Rudy Cobert.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Kevin Kevin, I'm glad you brought up with keV. You
brought up a great You just brought up Kobe. I
think the Mavericks what if you heard what Niko Harris
said afterwards had the press conference with Jason Kidd, who
was looking like a hostage because he still couldn't believe.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
He was like to say he didn't know what this is.
I want to keep my job.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
They were saying, there's a program we have and you
either win it or you ain't. And we're trying to
have a certain culture and a certain guy. And so
you're right when you mentioned with Kobe Bryant. But the
difference is, and thanks for the call, Kevin. I think
the difference is they're looking at us, look at Kobe.
If the mavericksers say, look at what he was Kobe
Bryant was the best player in the league at a
certain point, it still worked as if he was the
(35:56):
worst player in the league. Lebron James best player in
the league last ten fifty years, it works like he isn't.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
So I agree. I think there's a great pickup for
the for the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
But I think they're saying the Mavericks were saying, the
guys we look up to worked as if they were
one of the you know, they worked, not just like
they were at the top. They worked that they were
still at the bottom still, And they don't see that
from him. He's not in shape, he's always not healthy.
So I think that's big for the rude to build
a culture.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Now. They might they're gonna.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
They might, it might, it might be miss right. They
might create.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Something to say, no, man, you ain't gonna just sit
smoke cigarettes, to drink beer in our face.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
No, no, no, Hey, getting New Orleans all week? Can't wait?
A super Bowl is approaching, Here we come.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
The J. C.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Smith Show with Mike Harmon is coming up next radio show.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I never hear it?
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Did you hear that?
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