On today’s episode, Jason discusses why it's clear following their latest loss that Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs aren't Super Bowl contenders, why it's so hard to take Jared Goff and the Detroit Loins seriously given his propensity to play poorly in cold weather, why you shouldn't fear Sam Darnold and the Seattle Seahawks despite their stellar regular season record, who we should view as the real teams to beat in the AFC and the NFC, and why you shouldn't be surprised that Shedeur Sanders struggled so mightily in his NFL debut. Finally, J-Mac closes the show with this Best Bets for the Monday Night Football showdown between the Dallas Cowboys and the Las Vegas Raiders.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up straight fire right now? It's me Jason McIntyre.
Straight Ball year for Monday, November seventeenth, the final week
before Thanksgiving break. Oh my goodness, listen, we're seeing the
ball really well right now. Survivor easily cashes Fantasy four
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and oh pixel on the Herd so far four and
oh waiting on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We'll do best bet later.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It was just a banger of a weekend college football
Saturday four and oh, I.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Mean it was unbelievable. Everything hit and then.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
To cap it all, rob g Oh my gosh, the
Chiefs go down in Denver and now finally I'm able
to do a little bit of a victory lap and
everybody's starting to cover.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, maybe the Chiefs aren't that good, folks. I don't
want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You've just been telling everybody, Oh, they got my homes,
they got read It's the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
They'll figure it out. They're not a good football team.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Been saying this all year zero and five now in
one score games after eleven or oh, last year, I'm
firing almost too quickly. It was a great weekend all around.
Other than rain out here in southern California, just taking
the dog for a walk in the rain as the pits.
He won't wear the rain coat, he won't pee anywhere.
So what I'm gonna have him do now is I'm
gonna carry around a Chief's jersey and have my dog here.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
NAHM just kidding.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'm not gonna go there.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But in all honesty, the Kansas City Chiefs are not
a great football team. Now, they could turn it around
and sneak into the playoffs, but how about this, just
a couple crazy numbers. Forget the oh to five and
one score games that that's everybody knows it. Essentially, they
can't score in the red zone. They have no run game.
But Checko missed again. They were one for four in
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the red zone.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
The Chiefs had ten penalties. That's not a buttoned up
Andy Reid team.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, here are there road results this year? Okay, they
are not road warriors anymore so. Their last four go
road games Bronco's loss, Bills loss, Jaguars loss, Giants win.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
When they had Russell wasn't a.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Quarterback, Chargers was neutral site. So even if you want
to say, wow, hey, come on, those are tough teams.
Chargers are a playoff team, Bills are playoff team. Okay, fine, fine,
fair enough, fair enough. How about this at five and five?
The Chiefs have such an uphill climb to get to
the playoffs that they have to pass current wildcard teams
(02:31):
who they've all already lost to. The Bills beat them,
have the tiebreaker, the Jags beat them, have the tiebreaker,
and shoot them. Of course, spacing, I was really rocking
and rolling there, and now I'm looking, I'm forgetting who
the other wildcard team is. So it's Jags Bills and oh,
that's right, the Chargers the other wildcard team. Now they
could catch the Chargers because they have another meeting with them.
(02:54):
The first game was at a neutral site. But guys,
this is alarming. Off of a bye or Andy Reids
supposed to be a genius. Off of a loss the
Bills game, you would think they're all locked in and
they're gonna smash deenver.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
This was three, three and a half four. I told
you don't do it.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, everybody loaded up on the Chiefs and the public
got their teeth kicked in.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Here's the worst part.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
If all that wasn't bad enough, now they host the Colts,
who were coming in off of a bye, so the
Colts will be rested. The Colts should be as healthy
as they've been. And Shane Steichen in company, Listen, that
offense could mow through the Chiefs defense because Kansas City's
defense couldn't get the stops when they needed them. Bo Nicks,
(03:38):
you know, there's got to have it second down, back
shoulder throw to get into field goal range. You're like, wow,
Bo's hitting that, folks.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I was stunned.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I honestly thought, all right, you know, Chiefs got the lead,
They're gonna be fine. And then Mahomes interception in the
red zone and then the offense just couldn't click.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
They have no run game. Mahomes is not hitting the
deep ball.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I know, I'm excited, and you can tell by the
sound of my voice, I'm loving this because guess what,
I'm over that dynasty. I was done with them, and
you know, I don't want to go overboard, but like
you know, Travis Kelce is looking like one of the
best weapons rob g Remember the days of well, they
wait till they get Xavier Worthy back. You know, they
gotta get Worthy back. And then it was like well,
(04:19):
we gotta get where she Rice back. I'm just telling you, guys,
they're not superstars. She rice is is pretty damn good.
But just for the record, Xavier Worthy stat line three
catches twenty five yards, she Rice six for thirty eight.
I mean, I don't see it. Now the Colt secondary
(04:41):
gets Sauce Gardner, so that's gonna be out of dimension
next week.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Listen, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Let me see if there's a line. I do like
to look at the lines for the next week. Uh yeah, obviously.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh no, no, no, no, here we go KC minus
three and a half against Indy. I wonder if that now. Listen,
they're at home, big total of fifty and a half.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Rob g. I mean, you know, I'm excited. Even as
a Raiders fan, you've got to be happy with this development.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
No, I'm super pumped because I made one pick that
went on a limb before the season. I said, hey,
Chiefs are not winning that division. Mark it up for
the Broncos. I just don't think the Broncos are a
very good team. But the fact that the Chiefs are
not going to win this division makes you feel really
good about myself and for anybody who if you watch
the game, you know what I'm talking about. That game
did not feel anywhere near as close as the final
(05:30):
score would indicate.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Right.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Patrick Mahomes earlier in the game throws an egregious pick
six zone gets nullified by a penalty.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
No get nullified.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
So the football gods, as they tend to be, are
always on Patrick Mahomes's side for whatever reason, him Tom
Brady two guys is always gonna need to be fitted out.
But thankfully Water found its level because later on in
the game he was in the red zone, but technically
that pass was from the twenty one yard lin because
of a penalty. We'll call it a red zone interception
to make up for it. Patrick Mahomes over the last
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three games has been very, very mediocre, even in a
win against Washington where they had the mini buy coming
off of they played Sunday, then they played money and
I said eight days in between games. Three touchdowns, two picks,
two picks against a terrible Washington defense that has been
getting shredded week after week after week the last month
or so. Follows that up against Buffalo, the worst passing
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night of his NFL career, bar nine forty four percent
completions and then against Denver one touchdown, one pick, should
have been two. So in his last three games, four touchdowns,
four interceptions. Again, Patrick Mahomes is arguably the greatest quarterback
whoever it lives. It's either Ham or Tom Brady, but
most people mean Tom Brady. But you could definitely make
(06:48):
a kiss of Peter Mahlomes because of all the stats
that he has. Right because of that, people are unwilling
to point out when he's not playing well. Sports fans,
sports commentators, former athlete. If you watch the broadcast and
listen to Tony BURWMO, they're fuck about Patrick Mahomes. It
is the most glazed doughnut situation you've ever heard on
(07:12):
a television set. Patrick hwe was not playing football very
well right now. He wasn't playing football very well. Start
of the season. He had a great stretch there in
the middle where you know, against Baltimore, Jacksonville, Detroit and
the Raiders where he was cooking. Outside of that, he's
been very, very mediocre. This team has been very very mediocre.
And when he goes back and says in the postgame,
(07:32):
as he said, now the last couple of weeks Hey,
we've got to be consistent. We gotta find our consistent
We gotta be consistent. You are consistent, your team is
consistently mediocre. I don't know what there is to say,
you're just not very good.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, they just now listen. Obviously nobody's saying they can't
get back in the mix and turn it around like yeah,
anything's possible. I mean, hell, Aaron Rodgers is down. It
sounds like maybe there's a broken bone in his wrist.
As we record this early Monday morning, I don't see like, hey,
he's out four weeks. I don't think Higlie of Pittsburgh.
They did look good beating up on the shitty Bengals
(08:05):
who can't stop a nosebleed. But overall, this AFC playoff
picture is absolutely wild. I saw that the Chiefs are
ten percent chances to win the division. They won it
nine years in a row. Rob, If you want Kansas
City to win the AFC West, they're plus five hundred
for fun, Since you've got a lot of disposable income,
(08:25):
would you put.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Any some pizza money on the Chiefs to win the division?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
No, they are too far back to Denver.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
And again I don't think Denver is very good, but
they have the tiebreaker right now, and they have the
what is it three and a half game lead?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
No, there's no not enough time.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
There's a lot of stories in the NFL today.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I think if I told you this, rob If on
November seventeenth, the Chicago Bears are leading the NFC North
and they have a negative point.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Differential, chief, nobody would have believed me.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
In nobody, I mean, because the Lions got their doors well,
they didn't get their doors blowed off, got body bagged
by the Eagles defense in an unbelievable performance. The Bears
are now first in the division. Quickly, I want to
address the Lions before I get to the Bears. Listen,
sometimes you kind of just know there are some truisms
in the NFL. Right, It's easy to build a roster
(09:16):
with a quarterback on a rookie deal. Okay, Jared Goff
in cold weather against pressure up the middle turns into
a pumpkin.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Those are two definite truisms in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Jared Goff Sunday Night Football, Cold Philadelphia, pressure up the
middle from Davis and Carter all Night.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Fourteen of thirty seven. What fourteen of thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now that you'll see the two hundred fifty five yards
and be like, wow, you got a good game. A
couple splash plays Gibbs and Jmo, But other than that,
Gough was horrendous.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
He was off all night.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He doesn't like cold weather, and he doesn't like pressure
up the middle, like it's it's his achilles. Detroit could
not really run the football, and then of course you
got Dan Campbell. I mean, listen, I get it, you
guys love to Campble is aggressive, bro, he sometimes he's stupid.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
He was zero for five on fourth down over five
at some point. I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You know, the win was crazy, and I'm sure that
got in his head about that one kick that just
the wind took.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
But Philadelphia's offense was on the struggle bus.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay, and for din cable to keep going for it
on fourth down, I know that's in your DNA, bro,
But like sometimes read the game. Three for thirteen on third,
zero for five on fourth, oh for one in the
red zone. GoF had a horrible night and they lose
to the Eagles. I don't think this like takes Detroit
off the chessboard as like a serious team in the NFC.
(10:40):
But I'll say this, if they got to go outdoors
to Philly, outdoors to well Seattle, like Seattle will be
cold in January, Seattle, Green Bay, Chicago, I don't know, I.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Will not feel great about them.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I just I'm not a big believer in GoF outdoors
in cold weather when opponents can get pressure up the middle. Now,
let's quickly address Oh before I get to AJ Brown.
So my son was playing amor Ros Saint Brown. He's
my son has Dack at quarterback, so he's in good shape.
But I'm like, listen, Saint Brown could go go off.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
We'll see twelve targets, two catches for Alma Rossaint Brown.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Two catches. That's it now, QUINNYA. Mitchell did a good
job on him. But if you if somebody stitches together
all the of the twelve targets for am and Ra,
I'm telling you I would guess half four off target,
maybe more. It was just not a good golf game.
Now for the Eagles, obviously the AJ Brown narrative all week.
They decided from the jump, We're going to force feed
(11:35):
AJ Brown eleven targets, seven catches, forty nine yards, nothing big,
nothing huge, But like he caught a pass I think
on like the third play of the game, Rob, and
the crowd like erupted.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
They were like, oh, we got aj Brown, he's back. Hey, hey, listen.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Nick Sirianni doing some dumb shit at the end of
the game again last week against the Packers and then
going for it up ten from your own twenty nine
and the Trusch pushes was not working. Looks like the
refs are actively seeking out calling penalties. They even blundered
one it was not a penalty. And the Eagles offense,
this is the one Achilles for this team. Defense is
(12:10):
going to get them in every game in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Maybe the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But the offense, Rob, I mean, DeVonta Smith won catch
eight yards. Like you like to think they can do
things that I know they did things against the Vikings
and some other defenses, but they had one play over
twenty yards and it was to John Dotson who used
to only drop passes exclusively with like Washington or wherever
he was. And now it's like, man, they can't do anything.
(12:36):
I mean, this Eagles offense is a tough watch.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Rub.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Yeah, that's putting it mildly. And that's the big reason
why the big storyline coming into this game had nothing
to do with Jared Goff and gold Weather, nothing to
do with you know, Dan Campbell resuming play calling duties
there in Detroit. It was all about AJ Brown in
his happiness level in Philly and their offense.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I mean, full disclosure.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
The way AJ Brown is going about his frustration I
think is very unprofessional. I think the way he's doing
it is not becoming of a veteran leader on your team.
I have a big problem with guys going on social
media and streaming outlets or whatever to basically take pot
shots at your team and the way you're being used.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Like the way he did on that streaming thing I
didn't have. I really hated it.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
However, when he was asked to clarify himself at the
locker on Friday or on Thursday, this might have been
on Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday, everything he said was true. He's like, look, man,
we're not good enough offensively. Things are not clicking for
us offensively. Now, obviously a big part of it is
(13:42):
he wants the ball, and that's true off for any
wide receiver. But their offense is like stuck in the
mud week in and week out. Jared Jalen hurts last night,
fourteen of twenty eight for one thirty five. They carry
the ball forty times for one forty eight, and Saquon's
finishes okay, hit for eighty three, but a lot of
that came like, you know, late, like he had a
(14:04):
ten yard run to close the game basically, and it's like, well,
so then it was twenty five for seventy three, three
yards of clip, Like you're not really doing a whole
like of a lot out there. Their defense is carrying
them and to year of a credit Dan Campbell, I
mean call one hundred gambler, because you have a problem,
my friend, Like you really have an issue. Was it
was clear from the jump street that Jared Goff didn't
(14:25):
have it, which historically never has it in cold weather,
and you just kept rolling the dice and rolling the
dice in it was snake eyes and snake guys like, well,
this time it's gonna come through. And then oh what
snake guys again we crapped out And it's like, I
don't know if this game said more about the Lions
and their deficiencies or well, see the Eagles did it again.
They beat another NFC North opponent. They're really, really good
(14:46):
and it's like their defense is playing well.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean they're technically wow. The Lions are technically
third in the division because the Packers had that tie.
Packers got the win, but they did lose Josh Jacobs.
You gotta find out so injury. Some major injury news
around the league, including to the Falcons, who nobody gives
a crap about and Rob I'm sure that was my
worst call in the offseason. I'm so glad we don't
(15:09):
have to talk about them anymore. Pennox hurt, Drake London hurt.
They're now three and seven and he got swept by
the Panthers. I mean, hell, Carolina could sneak in the
playoffs if the Buccaneers don't get healthy.
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Speaker 3 (15:30):
Let me address quickly.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Buzz through Rams Seahawks. Rams did not look good. The
Rams won this game because Sam Donald was a turnover machine.
At the end of last season. Sam Donald, I believe
in the final two games he looked terrible in a win.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I think it was if he beats the lie lost
their last two games, right, so he needed to beat
the Lions, and he was terrible.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And that was kind of why Aaron Glenn got that job.
It was a Sunday night football game and Donald was horrific.
So then you go to the playoff game and Donald
was also bad and lost against the Rams. So that's
kind of why the Vikings moved off him. They're like, well,
we drafted JJ, he's our guy.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So Donald goes to Seattle. He's cooking, he's an MVP guy.
And finally they play a real team and Sam Donald
throws four interceptions. And here's the weird part, Rob I
thought Seattle largely outplayed the Rams. First downs twenty six
to twelve, Seattle total yards four fourteen to two forty nine.
(16:34):
I mean, staggering stat I had to triple check this.
In the second quarter, the Rams ran one play for
three yards DeVonta Smith, eight targets, one catch, like the
Seahawks defense came to play and then I'm sure you listen,
people are gonna go after Donald.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He had four picks.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I don't I don't know if all of them were
one hundred percent on him, but two of them directly
led to rams h which is killer, and it's one
of the it's it's the kind of performance where you're like,
I don't know that I can take Seattle seriously because
of Donald.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Now remember Gino Smith flashed.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Got them to playoff, got them to the playoffs, and
they lose to the Niners. This Seattle team, I think
the defense is that good, and I believe JSN and
Donald have something, so I think they're more dangerous than
the Gino Smith teams. Next up they are at the Titans.
They are huge favorites. They will win that, and then
you know, I don't know if they're going to face
(17:32):
Michael Pennix in December, it could be Kirk Cousins, and
then that JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
We're not have time to get into McCarthy. He wasn't great.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That was my one loss in Circle millions, and he's
got to face the Colts and then the Rams again,
followed by Panthers and Niners. So there's there's some land
mines there. But I do think that I you know,
the Seahawks defenders are defending Donald and they're saying, hey,
all the right things you kind of have to. Everybody
knows this one's on Donald, so I still think they're
(18:03):
dangerous in the NFC. But like again, if I'm facing
Sam Donald in the playoffs, I'm not terrified. Like Matt
Stafford scares me way more. Jalen Hurts scares me more.
Although this offense doesn't look great. Like if you rank
playoffs quarterbacks that scare you in the NFC, I think
it's gotta be Stafford.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Hurts.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I would go Purty Purty or Donald. Who are you
more concerned about in the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Oh, Rock party, for sure. I put Jordan Love ahead
of Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Jordan Loves. I don't know what's going on with that guy.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
So he got hurt, knocked out of the game briefly,
then came back and he was okay. I mean, the
Giants defense is terrible. Something's going on with George. I
don't know if he's injured. It was weird because Malik
Willis came in for a little bit to a touchdown
and Love came back. But I don't know that I
could take the Packers seriously rob with this Josh Jacobs
(18:59):
injury real it's really.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Tricky they're real tricky.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Like the start off the season, I think you and
I both said on this podcast that the Packers are
like the most complete team in football offensive defensively, Yeah,
they were cooking, and then something happened where their offense
just got real out of sink. And I watched a
lot of that game with Green Bay on Sunday, and
the box score I don't think does it justice. I
(19:23):
think Jordan Love played a really strong game, you know,
by his standards. The one issue I do have with
because you know, his receivers let him down a lot,
and the offensive line protection wasn't as great as you
would have liked.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know, especially historically with Green Bay, that he's got
a great old line.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
But it seems like he's not really seeing the field
very well right now. And when he makes things happen,
it's because he's got a great arm or he's very talented,
or you know, his receivers are making plays for him,
or something goes right in their favor. But rather than
taking like a four yard swing pass and live to
fight another day, he'll drift back, drift back, and off
(20:00):
his back foot throw a thirty yard bomb. Now most
of the time is incomplete. But when it does get completed,
it's like, goddamn, Jordan Love is really good and that
kind of is where he's been living the last month,
month and a half or so. And until they get
that strained out, it's really hard to take them seriously.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I mean, if you ask me who's coming out of
the NFC, I would say, based on schedule, Packers or
I'm sorry not Packers, Eagles. Philadelphia Eagles should have home
field advantage, and I mean, who's best suited to beat them?
When we know the Rams can go beat them? San
Franz defense is probably too beat up. But that offense,
I mean it was the Cardinals, but Rock Purty with Kittle,
(20:39):
Pierce all back, Cemac, they look legit. I think they
scored on eight of eleven possessions. Niers are going to
be there. If the Lions have to go outdoors, I
don't know if I trust them. And now let's do
the Bears, because guys, they're seven and three with a
negative six point differential. Now, they were the better team
against Minnesota for large portions of that game before a big,
(21:00):
big return open things up, and then McCarthy had a
touchdown drive, but of course Chicago special teams got them
back in the mix to set up the game winning
field goal. But like, I'm just gonna give you the
numbers and you tell me. Caleb Williams was sixteen to
thirty two for the math majors out there. That's fifty
percent one hundred and ninety three yards, six yards per attempt,
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no touchdowns, no interceptions, and he ran four times for
twenty six yards. I mean, if he's not turning the
ball over, they'll be in the mix. But this is
against the Vikings teams as four and six. What Caleb
did today, that's not gonna come close. Seattle would just
I would take Seattle by a touchdown over the Bears.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I mean it won't even be close. I just don't.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Obviously, Ben Johnson is really smart, and they hit a
home run with him because he's coaxing wins when there
shouldn't be any. They've been lucky that Bengals game, pure luck.
They beat the Giants again, needed a huge comeback late,
and they needed Jackson Dart to get hurt guys when
they step up in class at Detroit lose by thirty
(22:09):
one at the Ravens and the Ravens didn't even.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Have Lamar and they lose by two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
So I mean they you know, you got a lot
of Raiders and Saints and you know Marcus Marra Oh no,
that was that was That was Jayden Daniels. It was
in the rain when they beat the Commanders. They have
the Steelers next, but again they may face Mason Rudolph
because it sounds like Rogers has some kind of broken bone.
But then it's are you ready Eagles, Packers, Packers, Niners, Lions.
(22:42):
That could be five losses right there, Rob. So so
let's not get over our skis about the Chicago Bears. Now,
one topic I didn't really get into because I'm trying
to break down this video on Rob.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's still unclear to me.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Did Jamark do you feel Jamar Chase spat at Minca
or Jaalen Ramsey?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Sorry, Jayleen rad million videos?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Wait, do you remember the Chris Paul incident? It was
like Lakers Opening Night?
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Oh no, it was Rondo Rajon Rondo's spit on Chris
Paul and that that was very clear.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yes, this one you're saying it's clear even with the
helmet on.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yes, if you got time, America.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I know it's you're still waking up, wiping the sleep
out of your sleep out of your eyes. Go on
Twitter and just search Jamar Chase spit and you will
get like three different angles. One of them is a
four K zoomed in and it looks you know when
people haka luki after drinking like milk or having ice
cream where it's real thick.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's just like that.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Oh all right, now I see what you're talking about. Yeah,
it like hits him in the so it's it's it's
pretty fast. Yeah, okay, I see it there. So there
was a Bengals player walking behind him and he had
a white jersey, so initially I didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
But okay, so, oh that's not great. Will Chase get
suspended for that? Because spitting?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I believe he had cost Jalen Carter the opener, remember.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yes, And they determined he didn't need to be suspended
another game because technically it happened before any snaps have
been played. Yeah, so they determined that to be an
ejection or to be a suspension. Jamaar Chase will not
be playing next week. Get him out of you fantasy lineups.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Oh Man and they're playing the Patriots. What a charmed
life the Patriots are living? Huh yeah? So okay, so
we got that out of the way.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Now listen, you guys know, I'm kind of over the
Shadu standers.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I don't want to pile on the kid.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I feel like we haven't talked about him in months, understandably,
so he was on the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
He's back up. I don't know, Rob, Maybe we'll take
this angle.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Why is one journalist out there on a hill basically
defending Shadure Sanders play.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Anybody with a brain can go and.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Look at the the reps that Shadoor Sanders got and
could say, wow, he's not ready.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He did not look good.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The counter from this one journalist, I don't know if
it's your name, er, you could let Rob decide, is
that you.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Know Shador well.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
The reason he went four of sixteen for forty seven
yards with an interception and taking two sacks is he
because he's not getting reps with the first team.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And that's why Dylan Gabriel soaking up all the reps.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
So Shadoor was thrown into an unwinnable situation and like, okay,
I get that, but if you just watch him, he
did not look ready to play in the NFL, and
I'm not I don't need to pilo on the kid.
He wasn't great, so what I don't need to say anymore.
But you guys know how it works. There's a Caitlin
(25:46):
Clark effect here. Essentially, there's almost like a Bronnie James
angle or it was like, man, you could just say
anything about Bronnie James and it would kind of go
quasi viral because people are hating on the guy. And
I feel like a lot of that is still applying
to Shadoor Sanders. Now, there was a sack by Kyle Hamilton,
and I'm sure you saw this, guys. He stands up
and does the chadur or watch celebrations. This is why
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quarterback should not have celebrations. I don't know, Rob, I
don't want to pile on Shaduur. It was a rough one.
He wasn't gonna get to win anyway if he has
to start. I think you got a bet against the
Browns automatically.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yeah, I think that's a safe bet. I mean, anytime
you've read the status.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
At Raiders, Wow.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
That might change you things a little bit.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
But look four of sixteen forty seven yards passing, no
touchdowns to pick sacked twice, one fumble which was recovered
by an alignment, one intentional grounding a passer ring at
thirteen and a half total six net yards on sixteen dropbacks.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
He got zuks.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
That is justin Field's.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Territory right there, Like that is you should not be
in the league type numbers and the general you're talking
about Justin Anderson. And there are plenty of people. I
think Josine is a great reporter, but there are plenty
of people, reputable and not reputable, who is very confused
by why is she doing this. I'm sure somebody will
ask her and she'll have a good answer, you know,
maybe on Monday.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
But for now we have no idea.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Because even Shadoor Sanders set himself after the game quote,
I don't think I played good. I don't think I
played good at all. You don't got to read the
rest of the quote, like, hey, he's telling me he
was not good. The team was not good. I mean
they scored sixteen points as a team. One of them
was a pick six. The other nine were engineered by
Dylan Gabriel Shoud Doro Sanders did a whole lot of nothing.
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And I remember I had a tweet in the in
the chamber ready to go out, where it was going
to say something to the effect of, uh, Shadure Sanders
played badly, Lamar Jackson played worse. Headline, Oh Shadure Sanders
outduels Lamar Jackson, No, as Browns Like, That's what I
had ready to go because the Ravens looked terrible most
of that game. And thankfully, or you know, for my case,
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Shadure Sanders looked like a guy who fell to the
fifth round for a reason. Yeah, he didn't not look
like an NFL quarterback. And if he has to start
next week, God held me. I betting on the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well, Lamar is still not running. Don't think he's one
hundred percent healthy. Four carries ten yards now. The Browns
defense is nasty. They had five sacks. Miles Garrett should
walk away with defensive Player of the Year. He had
four sacks again, and he had five tackles for loss.
Literally living in the backfield. I mean, he's unblockable at
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this point. And you know, it's a shame he's under
two and eighteen. If the Browns man if they were,
if they had any clue, Rob, they would trade him
and get a haul because somebody would overpay for him
to make a push to win the Super Bowl. That's
how good he is. And I don't know how many
Let's see Miles Garrett. Oh damn, he turns thirty.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
The window to trade him was was this this? Uh
this deadline?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I know, the trade when he demanded the trade was
the time to trade him. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I mean, listen, Jets, look what they got for Quentin Williams.
I mean, Miles Garrett is unbelievable and he's gonna fetch
more than Micah. Somebody should have made a big move.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Wow. Kind of a disappointment, all right, So.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You know, I do like this whole Who's gonna make
the Super Bowl? I think today in the NFC it
feels like Eagles. I'll say the Packers are on the
outside looking in. I'll say Eagles Rams are pretty much
clearly the two best. Seattle's right there too, and I
think the Niners could be with the offense AFC. I
(29:29):
don't want to hear any more of this chief stuff.
But at the same time, Rob, as you noted, like
Lamartin look good Ravens are are clawing back into the division.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Steelers are not good. Colts Denver. I don't even think
Denver's good.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I mean, I think we've actually got to think maybe
the New England Patriots could.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I guess I would go Buffalo Bills in the AFC today,
they beat up on Tampa. Josh Allen had like three
TV's pass, three TV's rushing. But this was this was
Tampa Bay thirty two to thirty one with like twelve
minutes left, So I had a Buffalo messing around. Then
you got now the key On Coleman was a healthy
scratch because he was late for some team meetings. I mean,
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for the Bills to put up forty four points without
Dalton first aid, sorry Dalton, kid, Kate and Keon Coleman
is like, wait, really, I don't know if that says
the Bucks are bad or the Bills are waking up.
They got some guy Shavers who I'm not familiar with,
that an awesome touchdown catch, So I guess rob I
would go Bills.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
The AFC is so weird to handicap because if you're
thinking clearly, you would say the Colts and the Patriots.
Probably the Patriots have looked the best off season, Like
the Colts recently, especially Daniel Jones has really been on
the struggle bus last two or three weeks. Denver has
looked really bad. The Chiefs have been mediocre, the Bills
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have been inconsistent, and even though Baltimore is on a
four game winning streak, you can tell the haven't really
hit their stride yet, like they're they're still figuring it
out week by week. And you mentioned Lamar's look fully healthy.
The only problem is with the Colts and the and
the Patriots is you have no basis to feel good
about them in the postseason, like you have no reason
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to feel like Daniel Jones can do anything. We don't
know what Drake may is at this level yet he's
having an MVP caliber season. We don't know until he
gets there what it's gonna look like. And as weird
as it's gonna sound is again, I don't think the
Chiefs are any good. We don't know about the Ravens,
and the Bills have been inconsistent. The problem is when
you get to the playoffs and you have Lamar Jackson
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versus Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You're probably gonna pick Lamar.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah, you get to the playoffs and you have Bo
Nicks versus Josh Allen, You're probably gonna want to pick
Josh Allen. When you have Patrick Mahomes versus Drake May
that's probably the closest one, but you're probably gonna lean
Patrick Mahomes no matter what these teams have look like
in the regular season, because the quarterbacks from the other
teams are unproven and and it's it's just hard to
really go all in against with some of these teams.
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The AFC and the nfciting has more clear. I think
it's Eagles and it's Eagles. Rams look like they're the
tow the best teams, the most complete teams. I will
lean Rams over Eagles. And to your point, last week
I had the Lions, but the if they have to
play outdoors in cold weather, that completely changed the calculus.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
The massive kryptonite for them. So listen. NFL is getting
real interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
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Here's your best bet.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Tonight. We got Cowboys three and a half point favorites
over Rob G's Raiders. We've gone over the Genosmith primetime numbers.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
They're horrific. The lights get bright and he shrinks. He
does have brock Bowers Cowboys getting healthier, and I just
wonder if and I don't know if Schottenheimer is the
kind of guy who could pull this off, but if
if you're talking to your team and you're like, guys,
look around. Everybody that needed to lose lost. We're right
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there three five and one. Why can't why not us?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Why can't we get to the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I mean, currently Dallas is sitting in the eleventh spot,
but they will with a win, they'll pass the Vikings.
Carolina's not gonna stay there. I don't know how Carolina's ninth.
I mean, they did talk about smoking mirrors. And then
you look at the Dallas schedule and you're like, guys,
we have direct games against teams that we would need
(33:43):
to leap brog obviously, the Eagles I doubt will leap
them in the division.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
They're they're a lock. But we got we got the Lions.
We beat them, we can we can maybe overtake them.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
We play the Chiefs and it's at home, and it's
I think Thanksgiving Day, Yeah, Thanksgiving Day, and we got
the line. I'm sorry Allions and Vikings, and then you
trussed in a Commanders and a Giants. Those should be
too easy wins. I don't think Dallas is out of it,
but they have no room, Praerer. They gotta win this
and we'll see at the offense. So I'm on Cowboys
minus three, minus.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Three and a half. I don't know, Robi.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I can't make a case for your Raiders, but I'll
just say this. The Dallas defense it's pretty rotten. You
know that, we know that they can be had. I mean,
Jacoby Brissett was out there looking like Dan Fouts last
last Monday Night. So I think Cowboys are definitely gonna
let the Raiders hang around. But I'm just hopeful Dak
can lead the way to a convincing victory.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Yeah, I'm on Cowboys minus three. My Cowboys mins three
and a half and a couple of offshore illegal bookies.
I'm on Cowboys minus six and a half minus seven
and a half. Oh wow, I mean, it's like there's
nothing about this Raiders team that gives you any kind
of confidence. Gino Smith looks like the worst quarterback in
football or one of the worst quarterbacks in football. And
Dallas as bad as their defense as their offense can
score with anybody, and the top of off in my
(35:01):
not my big money fantasy league, but the league I
care most about because it's bunched a lot of like
elite Ball Nowhere type guys. I'm going against Jake Ferguson
and George Pickens, so of course they're both gonna go
off and they're gonna go to losing fantasy.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
But yeah, Dallas, big.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Real quick.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I am just curious because we didn't get a chance
to do NBA. I had some Austin Reeves hot takes
last week, you know, a little probably too spicy.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
I am curious Lebron expected back this week.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Your best guess on how Lebron fits with Reeves and
Luca and all the good vibes that are swimming around
the Lakers right now.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I think it's gonna start off great. I think that
they're playing really well. I think if you listen to
Luca and Austin in the post game, they talk about
the chemistry being real high. DeAndre Aden went viral over
the weekend because it's you know, he's so excited about
being a Laker after that win against Milwaukee, and I
think he's gonna come in and not want to rock
the boat right away. He's gonna come in play a role.
It's gonna look really good, or the teams look really
(35:59):
good for a stretch, and then we'll see how it
goes if by Christmas this does start percolating again because
Lebron is no longer the central point, the focus of
the team.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, I mean I don't.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I largely would agree with that. My only thing is
Reddick has known this was gonna happen for weeks. Reddick
is close with Lebron. I don't think there's any way
he's gonna say, like Lebron goes stand in the corner.
You know that he's not gonna let some nonsense like
this happen.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I think the Lakers will figure it out.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I will also add, somebody smart said this to me, Hey,
just remember the Lakers schedule is backloaded because post Super Bowl,
the NBA is on TV a lot, and they want
the marquee teams Now, the Lakers a lot of New
Orleans and you beaten up on some bad teams. The
win over the Bucks was impressive. They were up thirty
at halftime and they were without Rui and Marcus Smart.
(36:54):
So like, I don't know, I'm optimistic, a rub I'm
just telling you I'm on record, assuming you know health
is there. I think the Lakers are top four seed
in the in the in the West.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Yeah, I'd a great I mean we we said that
on the NBA preview or even before the NBA preview episode,
like we we've been on the Lakers all off season
because we live in LA. But because it's like, how
would the straight face can you bet against Luka Doncic.
It's like, you don't say that about you know, I
know that the thunder have a great team. But if
you say, hey, I got the MVP or a top
(37:26):
five player in the league, I'm gonna fade them. Now,
I don't think you will. You had the top five
player in Jokic, You're gonna fade them. No, I don't
think you will. Jannis in the Marabound East with Kyle
Kuzma is the second best player. Nobody was like, hey,
let me take the under on Bucks win total. If
he's on the team, they're gonna win a lot of games.
Because he's that good. Lucas on the team, you'renna win
a lot of games.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Hey, I bet you can't answer this, don't look the
best record in the West is okay. See who has
a best record.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
In the East. The Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Baby wow, okay is that his nickname?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Somebody was calling that on Twitter. I thought it was funny.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Bro, he's looking good. Detroit like up significantly. It would
not shock me if they if they got the number
one seed. That's how good they look. By the way
the Bulls for anybody was like excited about them fading fast.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Five losses in a row. Water finds its level. All right, long,
Monday Pod, we are bad. It's gonna be a good week.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I don't know the game plan for Thanksgiving week. I'm
assuming we'll have a Monday Pod and probably a Tuesday
after that.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I'm not sure. I know. We want to help you
guys out with
Speaker 2 (38:31):
The travel because a lot of people will be on airplanes,
long car rides with the family, just popping the earbuds,
popping some straight fire, get some winners, talk to you tomorrow.
This is straight fire with Jason McIntyre.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
What is up straight fire right now? It's me Jason McIntyre.
Straight Ball year for Monday, November seventeenth, the final week
before Thanksgiving break. Oh my goodness, listen, we're seeing the
ball really well right now. Survivor easily cashes Fantasy four
(00:32):
and oh pixel on the Herd so far four and
oh waiting on the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
We'll do best bet later.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
It was just a banger of a weekend college football
Saturday four and oh, I.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Mean it was unbelievable. Everything hit and then.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
To cap it all, rob g Oh my gosh, the
Chiefs go down in Denver and now finally I'm able
to do a little bit of a victory lap and
everybody's starting to cover.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, maybe the Chiefs aren't that good, folks. I don't
want to hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You've just been telling everybody, Oh, they got my homes,
they got read It's the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
They'll figure it out. They're not a good football team.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Been saying this all year zero and five now in
one score games after eleven or oh, last year, I'm
firing almost too quickly. It was a great weekend all around.
Other than rain out here in southern California, just taking
the dog for a walk in the rain as the pits.
He won't wear the rain coat, he won't pee anywhere.
So what I'm gonna have him do now is I'm
gonna carry around a Chief's jersey and have my dog here.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
NAHM just kidding.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
I'm not gonna go there.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
But in all honesty, the Kansas City Chiefs are not
a great football team. Now, they could turn it around
and sneak into the playoffs, but how about this, just
a couple crazy numbers. Forget the oh to five and
one score games that that's everybody knows it. Essentially, they
can't score in the red zone. They have no run game.
But Checko missed again. They were one for four in
(01:50):
the red zone.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
The Chiefs had ten penalties. That's not a buttoned up
Andy Reid team.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, here are there road results this year? Okay, they
are not road warriors anymore so. Their last four go
road games Bronco's loss, Bills loss, Jaguars loss, Giants win.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
When they had Russell wasn't a.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Quarterback, Chargers was neutral site. So even if you want
to say, wow, hey, come on, those are tough teams.
Chargers are a playoff team, Bills are playoff team. Okay, fine, fine,
fair enough, fair enough. How about this at five and five?
The Chiefs have such an uphill climb to get to
the playoffs that they have to pass current wildcard teams
(02:31):
who they've all already lost to. The Bills beat them,
have the tiebreaker, the Jags beat them, have the tiebreaker,
and shoot them. Of course, spacing, I was really rocking
and rolling there, and now I'm looking, I'm forgetting who
the other wildcard team is. So it's Jags Bills and oh,
that's right, the Chargers the other wildcard team. Now they
could catch the Chargers because they have another meeting with them.
(02:54):
The first game was at a neutral site. But guys,
this is alarming. Off of a bye or Andy Reids
supposed to be a genius. Off of a loss the
Bills game, you would think they're all locked in and
they're gonna smash deenver.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
This was three, three and a half four. I told
you don't do it.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Okay, everybody loaded up on the Chiefs and the public
got their teeth kicked in.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Here's the worst part.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
If all that wasn't bad enough, now they host the Colts,
who were coming in off of a bye, so the
Colts will be rested. The Colts should be as healthy
as they've been. And Shane Steichen in company, Listen, that
offense could mow through the Chiefs defense because Kansas City's
defense couldn't get the stops when they needed them. Bo Nicks,
(03:38):
you know, there's got to have it second down, back
shoulder throw to get into field goal range. You're like, wow,
Bo's hitting that, folks.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
I was stunned.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I honestly thought, all right, you know, Chiefs got the lead,
They're gonna be fine. And then Mahomes interception in the
red zone and then the offense just couldn't click.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
They have no run game. Mahomes is not hitting the
deep ball.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I know, I'm excited, and you can tell by the
sound of my voice, I'm loving this because guess what,
I'm over that dynasty. I was done with them, and
you know, I don't want to go overboard, but like
you know, Travis Kelce is looking like one of the
best weapons rob g Remember the days of well, they
wait till they get Xavier Worthy back. You know, they
gotta get Worthy back. And then it was like well,
(04:19):
we gotta get where she Rice back. I'm just telling you, guys,
they're not superstars. She rice is is pretty damn good.
But just for the record, Xavier Worthy stat line three
catches twenty five yards, she Rice six for thirty eight.
I mean, I don't see it. Now the Colt secondary
(04:41):
gets Sauce Gardner, so that's gonna be out of dimension
next week.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Listen, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Let me see if there's a line. I do like
to look at the lines for the next week. Uh yeah, obviously.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh no, no, no, no, here we go KC minus
three and a half against Indy. I wonder if that now. Listen,
they're at home, big total of fifty and a half.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Rob g. I mean, you know, I'm excited. Even as
a Raiders fan, you've got to be happy with this development.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
No, I'm super pumped because I made one pick that
went on a limb before the season. I said, hey,
Chiefs are not winning that division. Mark it up for
the Broncos. I just don't think the Broncos are a
very good team. But the fact that the Chiefs are
not going to win this division makes you feel really
good about myself and for anybody who if you watch
the game, you know what I'm talking about. That game
did not feel anywhere near as close as the final
(05:30):
score would indicate.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Right.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
Patrick Mahomes earlier in the game throws an egregious pick
six zone gets nullified by a penalty.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
No get nullified.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
So the football gods, as they tend to be, are
always on Patrick Mahomes's side for whatever reason, him Tom
Brady two guys is always gonna need to be fitted out.
But thankfully Water found its level because later on in
the game he was in the red zone, but technically
that pass was from the twenty one yard lin because
of a penalty. We'll call it a red zone interception
to make up for it. Patrick Mahomes over the last
(06:04):
three games has been very, very mediocre, even in a
win against Washington where they had the mini buy coming
off of they played Sunday, then they played money and
I said eight days in between games. Three touchdowns, two picks,
two picks against a terrible Washington defense that has been
getting shredded week after week after week the last month
or so. Follows that up against Buffalo, the worst passing
(06:27):
night of his NFL career, bar nine forty four percent
completions and then against Denver one touchdown, one pick, should
have been two. So in his last three games, four touchdowns,
four interceptions. Again, Patrick Mahomes is arguably the greatest quarterback
whoever it lives. It's either Ham or Tom Brady, but
most people mean Tom Brady. But you could definitely make
(06:48):
a kiss of Peter Mahlomes because of all the stats
that he has. Right because of that, people are unwilling
to point out when he's not playing well. Sports fans,
sports commentators, former athlete. If you watch the broadcast and
listen to Tony BURWMO, they're fuck about Patrick Mahomes. It
is the most glazed doughnut situation you've ever heard on
(07:12):
a television set. Patrick hwe was not playing football very
well right now. He wasn't playing football very well. Start
of the season. He had a great stretch there in
the middle where you know, against Baltimore, Jacksonville, Detroit and
the Raiders where he was cooking. Outside of that, he's
been very, very mediocre. This team has been very very mediocre.
And when he goes back and says in the postgame,
(07:32):
as he said, now the last couple of weeks Hey,
we've got to be consistent. We gotta find our consistent
We gotta be consistent. You are consistent, your team is
consistently mediocre. I don't know what there is to say,
you're just not very good.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Yeah, they just now listen. Obviously nobody's saying they can't
get back in the mix and turn it around like yeah,
anything's possible. I mean, hell, Aaron Rodgers is down. It
sounds like maybe there's a broken bone in his wrist.
As we record this early Monday morning, I don't see like, hey,
he's out four weeks. I don't think Higlie of Pittsburgh.
They did look good beating up on the shitty Bengals
(08:05):
who can't stop a nosebleed. But overall, this AFC playoff
picture is absolutely wild. I saw that the Chiefs are
ten percent chances to win the division. They won it
nine years in a row. Rob, If you want Kansas
City to win the AFC West, they're plus five hundred
for fun, Since you've got a lot of disposable income,
(08:25):
would you put.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Any some pizza money on the Chiefs to win the division?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
No, they are too far back to Denver.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
And again I don't think Denver is very good, but
they have the tiebreaker right now, and they have the
what is it three and a half game lead?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
No, there's no not enough time.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
There's a lot of stories in the NFL today.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I think if I told you this, rob If on
November seventeenth, the Chicago Bears are leading the NFC North
and they have a negative point.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Differential, chief, nobody would have believed me.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
In nobody, I mean, because the Lions got their doors well,
they didn't get their doors blowed off, got body bagged
by the Eagles defense in an unbelievable performance. The Bears
are now first in the division. Quickly, I want to
address the Lions before I get to the Bears. Listen,
sometimes you kind of just know there are some truisms
in the NFL. Right, It's easy to build a roster
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with a quarterback on a rookie deal. Okay, Jared Goff
in cold weather against pressure up the middle turns into
a pumpkin.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Those are two definite truisms in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Jared Goff Sunday Night Football, Cold Philadelphia, pressure up the
middle from Davis and Carter all Night.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Fourteen of thirty seven. What fourteen of thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now that you'll see the two hundred fifty five yards
and be like, wow, you got a good game. A
couple splash plays Gibbs and Jmo, But other than that,
Gough was horrendous.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
He was off all night.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He doesn't like cold weather, and he doesn't like pressure
up the middle, like it's it's his achilles. Detroit could
not really run the football, and then of course you
got Dan Campbell. I mean, listen, I get it, you
guys love to Campble is aggressive, bro, he sometimes he's stupid.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
He was zero for five on fourth down over five
at some point. I get it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
You know, the win was crazy, and I'm sure that
got in his head about that one kick that just
the wind took.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
But Philadelphia's offense was on the struggle bus.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Okay, and for din cable to keep going for it
on fourth down, I know that's in your DNA, bro,
But like sometimes read the game. Three for thirteen on third,
zero for five on fourth, oh for one in the
red zone. GoF had a horrible night and they lose
to the Eagles. I don't think this like takes Detroit
off the chessboard as like a serious team in the NFC.
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But I'll say this, if they got to go outdoors
to Philly, outdoors to well Seattle, like Seattle will be
cold in January, Seattle, Green Bay, Chicago, I don't know, I.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Will not feel great about them.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I just I'm not a big believer in GoF outdoors
in cold weather when opponents can get pressure up the middle. Now,
let's quickly address Oh before I get to AJ Brown.
So my son was playing amor Ros Saint Brown. He's
my son has Dack at quarterback, so he's in good shape.
But I'm like, listen, Saint Brown could go go off.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
We'll see twelve targets, two catches for Alma Rossaint Brown.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Two catches. That's it now, QUINNYA. Mitchell did a good
job on him. But if you if somebody stitches together
all the of the twelve targets for am and Ra,
I'm telling you I would guess half four off target,
maybe more. It was just not a good golf game.
Now for the Eagles, obviously the AJ Brown narrative all week.
They decided from the jump, We're going to force feed
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AJ Brown eleven targets, seven catches, forty nine yards, nothing big,
nothing huge, But like he caught a pass I think
on like the third play of the game, Rob, and
the crowd like erupted.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
They were like, oh, we got aj Brown, he's back. Hey, hey, listen.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Nick Sirianni doing some dumb shit at the end of
the game again last week against the Packers and then
going for it up ten from your own twenty nine
and the Trusch pushes was not working. Looks like the
refs are actively seeking out calling penalties. They even blundered
one it was not a penalty. And the Eagles offense,
this is the one Achilles for this team. Defense is
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going to get them in every game in the NFC.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Maybe the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
But the offense, Rob, I mean, DeVonta Smith won catch
eight yards. Like you like to think they can do
things that I know they did things against the Vikings
and some other defenses, but they had one play over
twenty yards and it was to John Dotson who used
to only drop passes exclusively with like Washington or wherever
he was. And now it's like, man, they can't do anything.
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I mean, this Eagles offense is a tough watch.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Rub.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Yeah, that's putting it mildly. And that's the big reason
why the big storyline coming into this game had nothing
to do with Jared Goff and gold Weather, nothing to
do with you know, Dan Campbell resuming play calling duties
there in Detroit. It was all about AJ Brown in
his happiness level in Philly and their offense.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I mean, full disclosure.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
The way AJ Brown is going about his frustration I
think is very unprofessional. I think the way he's doing
it is not becoming of a veteran leader on your team.
I have a big problem with guys going on social
media and streaming outlets or whatever to basically take pot
shots at your team and the way you're being used.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Like the way he did on that streaming thing I
didn't have. I really hated it.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
However, when he was asked to clarify himself at the
locker on Friday or on Thursday, this might have been
on Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday, everything he said was true. He's like, look, man,
we're not good enough offensively. Things are not clicking for
us offensively. Now, obviously a big part of it is
(13:42):
he wants the ball, and that's true off for any
wide receiver. But their offense is like stuck in the
mud week in and week out. Jared Jalen hurts last night,
fourteen of twenty eight for one thirty five. They carry
the ball forty times for one forty eight, and Saquon's
finishes okay, hit for eighty three, but a lot of
that came like, you know, late, like he had a
(14:04):
ten yard run to close the game basically, and it's like, well,
so then it was twenty five for seventy three, three
yards of clip, Like you're not really doing a whole
like of a lot out there. Their defense is carrying
them and to year of a credit Dan Campbell, I
mean call one hundred gambler, because you have a problem,
my friend, Like you really have an issue. Was it
was clear from the jump street that Jared Goff didn't
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have it, which historically never has it in cold weather,
and you just kept rolling the dice and rolling the
dice in it was snake eyes and snake guys like, well,
this time it's gonna come through. And then oh what
snake guys again we crapped out And it's like, I
don't know if this game said more about the Lions
and their deficiencies or well, see the Eagles did it again.
They beat another NFC North opponent. They're really, really good
(14:46):
and it's like their defense is playing well.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah, I mean they're technically wow. The Lions are technically
third in the division because the Packers had that tie.
Packers got the win, but they did lose Josh Jacobs.
You gotta find out so injury. Some major injury news
around the league, including to the Falcons, who nobody gives
a crap about and Rob I'm sure that was my
worst call in the offseason. I'm so glad we don't
(15:09):
have to talk about them anymore. Pennox hurt, Drake London hurt.
They're now three and seven and he got swept by
the Panthers. I mean, hell, Carolina could sneak in the
playoffs if the Buccaneers don't get healthy.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
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Speaker 3 (15:30):
Let me address quickly.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Buzz through Rams Seahawks. Rams did not look good. The
Rams won this game because Sam Donald was a turnover machine.
At the end of last season. Sam Donald, I believe
in the final two games he looked terrible in a win.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
I think it was if he beats the lie lost
their last two games, right, so he needed to beat
the Lions, and he was terrible.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
And that was kind of why Aaron Glenn got that job.
It was a Sunday night football game and Donald was horrific.
So then you go to the playoff game and Donald
was also bad and lost against the Rams. So that's
kind of why the Vikings moved off him. They're like, well,
we drafted JJ, he's our guy.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
We're good.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So Donald goes to Seattle. He's cooking, he's an MVP guy.
And finally they play a real team and Sam Donald
throws four interceptions. And here's the weird part, Rob I
thought Seattle largely outplayed the Rams. First downs twenty six
to twelve, Seattle total yards four fourteen to two forty nine.
(16:34):
I mean, staggering stat I had to triple check this.
In the second quarter, the Rams ran one play for
three yards DeVonta Smith, eight targets, one catch, like the
Seahawks defense came to play and then I'm sure you listen,
people are gonna go after Donald.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He had four picks.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I don't I don't know if all of them were
one hundred percent on him, but two of them directly
led to rams h which is killer, and it's one
of the it's it's the kind of performance where you're like,
I don't know that I can take Seattle seriously because
of Donald.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Now remember Gino Smith flashed.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Got them to playoff, got them to the playoffs, and
they lose to the Niners. This Seattle team, I think
the defense is that good, and I believe JSN and
Donald have something, so I think they're more dangerous than
the Gino Smith teams. Next up they are at the Titans.
They are huge favorites. They will win that, and then
you know, I don't know if they're going to face
(17:32):
Michael Pennix in December, it could be Kirk Cousins, and
then that JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
We're not have time to get into McCarthy. He wasn't great.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That was my one loss in Circle millions, and he's
got to face the Colts and then the Rams again,
followed by Panthers and Niners. So there's there's some land
mines there. But I do think that I you know,
the Seahawks defenders are defending Donald and they're saying, hey,
all the right things you kind of have to. Everybody
knows this one's on Donald, so I still think they're
(18:03):
dangerous in the NFC. But like again, if I'm facing
Sam Donald in the playoffs, I'm not terrified. Like Matt
Stafford scares me way more. Jalen Hurts scares me more.
Although this offense doesn't look great. Like if you rank
playoffs quarterbacks that scare you in the NFC, I think
it's gotta be Stafford.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Hurts.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I would go Purty Purty or Donald. Who are you
more concerned about in the playoffs?
Speaker 5 (18:31):
Oh, Rock party, for sure. I put Jordan Love ahead
of Sam Donald.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Jordan Loves. I don't know what's going on with that guy.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
So he got hurt, knocked out of the game briefly,
then came back and he was okay. I mean, the
Giants defense is terrible. Something's going on with George. I
don't know if he's injured. It was weird because Malik
Willis came in for a little bit to a touchdown
and Love came back. But I don't know that I
could take the Packers seriously rob with this Josh Jacobs
(18:59):
injury real it's really.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Tricky they're real tricky.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Like the start off the season, I think you and
I both said on this podcast that the Packers are
like the most complete team in football offensive defensively, Yeah,
they were cooking, and then something happened where their offense
just got real out of sink. And I watched a
lot of that game with Green Bay on Sunday, and
the box score I don't think does it justice. I
(19:23):
think Jordan Love played a really strong game, you know,
by his standards. The one issue I do have with
because you know, his receivers let him down a lot,
and the offensive line protection wasn't as great as you
would have liked.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know, especially historically with Green Bay, that he's got
a great old line.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
But it seems like he's not really seeing the field
very well right now. And when he makes things happen,
it's because he's got a great arm or he's very talented,
or you know, his receivers are making plays for him,
or something goes right in their favor. But rather than
taking like a four yard swing pass and live to
fight another day, he'll drift back, drift back, and off
(20:00):
his back foot throw a thirty yard bomb. Now most
of the time is incomplete. But when it does get completed,
it's like, goddamn, Jordan Love is really good and that
kind of is where he's been living the last month,
month and a half or so. And until they get
that strained out, it's really hard to take them seriously.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
I mean, if you ask me who's coming out of
the NFC, I would say, based on schedule, Packers or
I'm sorry not Packers, Eagles. Philadelphia Eagles should have home
field advantage, and I mean, who's best suited to beat them?
When we know the Rams can go beat them? San
Franz defense is probably too beat up. But that offense,
I mean it was the Cardinals, but Rock Purty with Kittle,
(20:39):
Pierce all back, Cemac, they look legit. I think they
scored on eight of eleven possessions. Niers are going to
be there. If the Lions have to go outdoors, I
don't know if I trust them. And now let's do
the Bears, because guys, they're seven and three with a
negative six point differential. Now, they were the better team
against Minnesota for large portions of that game before a big,
(21:00):
big return open things up, and then McCarthy had a
touchdown drive, but of course Chicago special teams got them
back in the mix to set up the game winning
field goal. But like, I'm just gonna give you the
numbers and you tell me. Caleb Williams was sixteen to
thirty two for the math majors out there. That's fifty
percent one hundred and ninety three yards, six yards per attempt,
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no touchdowns, no interceptions, and he ran four times for
twenty six yards. I mean, if he's not turning the
ball over, they'll be in the mix. But this is
against the Vikings teams as four and six. What Caleb
did today, that's not gonna come close. Seattle would just
I would take Seattle by a touchdown over the Bears.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I mean it won't even be close. I just don't.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Obviously, Ben Johnson is really smart, and they hit a
home run with him because he's coaxing wins when there
shouldn't be any. They've been lucky that Bengals game, pure luck.
They beat the Giants again, needed a huge comeback late,
and they needed Jackson Dart to get hurt guys when
they step up in class at Detroit lose by thirty
(22:09):
one at the Ravens and the Ravens didn't even.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Have Lamar and they lose by two touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
So I mean they you know, you got a lot
of Raiders and Saints and you know Marcus Marra Oh no,
that was that was That was Jayden Daniels. It was
in the rain when they beat the Commanders. They have
the Steelers next, but again they may face Mason Rudolph
because it sounds like Rogers has some kind of broken bone.
But then it's are you ready Eagles, Packers, Packers, Niners, Lions.
(22:42):
That could be five losses right there, Rob. So so
let's not get over our skis about the Chicago Bears. Now,
one topic I didn't really get into because I'm trying
to break down this video on Rob.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's still unclear to me.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Did Jamark do you feel Jamar Chase spat at Minca
or Jaalen Ramsey?
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Sorry, Jayleen rad million videos?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Wait, do you remember the Chris Paul incident? It was
like Lakers Opening Night?
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Oh no, it was Rondo Rajon Rondo's spit on Chris
Paul and that that was very clear.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yes, this one you're saying it's clear even with the
helmet on.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yes, if you got time, America.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
I know it's you're still waking up, wiping the sleep
out of your sleep out of your eyes. Go on
Twitter and just search Jamar Chase spit and you will
get like three different angles. One of them is a
four K zoomed in and it looks you know when
people haka luki after drinking like milk or having ice
cream where it's real thick.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's just like that.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Oh all right, now I see what you're talking about. Yeah,
it like hits him in the so it's it's it's
pretty fast. Yeah, okay, I see it there. So there
was a Bengals player walking behind him and he had
a white jersey, so initially I didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
But okay, so, oh that's not great. Will Chase get
suspended for that? Because spitting?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I believe he had cost Jalen Carter the opener, remember.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Yes, And they determined he didn't need to be suspended
another game because technically it happened before any snaps have
been played. Yeah, so they determined that to be an
ejection or to be a suspension. Jamaar Chase will not
be playing next week. Get him out of you fantasy lineups.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
Oh Man and they're playing the Patriots. What a charmed
life the Patriots are living? Huh yeah? So okay, so
we got that out of the way.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Now listen, you guys know, I'm kind of over the
Shadu standers.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
I don't want to pile on the kid.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I feel like we haven't talked about him in months, understandably,
so he was on the practice squad.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
He's back up. I don't know, Rob, Maybe we'll take
this angle.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Why is one journalist out there on a hill basically
defending Shadure Sanders play.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Anybody with a brain can go and.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Look at the the reps that Shadoor Sanders got and
could say, wow, he's not ready.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
He did not look good.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
The counter from this one journalist, I don't know if
it's your name, er, you could let Rob decide, is
that you.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Know Shador well.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
The reason he went four of sixteen for forty seven
yards with an interception and taking two sacks is he
because he's not getting reps with the first team.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
And that's why Dylan Gabriel soaking up all the reps.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
So Shadoor was thrown into an unwinnable situation and like, okay,
I get that, but if you just watch him, he
did not look ready to play in the NFL, and
I'm not I don't need to pilo on the kid.
He wasn't great, so what I don't need to say anymore.
But you guys know how it works. There's a Caitlin
(25:46):
Clark effect here. Essentially, there's almost like a Bronnie James
angle or it was like, man, you could just say
anything about Bronnie James and it would kind of go
quasi viral because people are hating on the guy. And
I feel like a lot of that is still applying
to Shadoor Sanders. Now, there was a sack by Kyle Hamilton,
and I'm sure you saw this, guys. He stands up
and does the chadur or watch celebrations. This is why
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quarterback should not have celebrations. I don't know, Rob, I
don't want to pile on Shaduur. It was a rough one.
He wasn't gonna get to win anyway if he has
to start. I think you got a bet against the
Browns automatically.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yeah, I think that's a safe bet. I mean, anytime
you've read the status.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
At Raiders, Wow.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
That might change you things a little bit.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
But look four of sixteen forty seven yards passing, no
touchdowns to pick sacked twice, one fumble which was recovered
by an alignment, one intentional grounding a passer ring at
thirteen and a half total six net yards on sixteen dropbacks.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
He got zuks.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
That is justin Field's.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Territory right there, Like that is you should not be
in the league type numbers and the general you're talking
about Justin Anderson. And there are plenty of people. I
think Josine is a great reporter, but there are plenty
of people, reputable and not reputable, who is very confused
by why is she doing this. I'm sure somebody will
ask her and she'll have a good answer, you know,
maybe on Monday.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
But for now we have no idea.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Because even Shadoor Sanders set himself after the game quote,
I don't think I played good. I don't think I
played good at all. You don't got to read the
rest of the quote, like, hey, he's telling me he
was not good. The team was not good. I mean
they scored sixteen points as a team. One of them
was a pick six. The other nine were engineered by
Dylan Gabriel Shoud Doro Sanders did a whole lot of nothing.
(27:32):
And I remember I had a tweet in the in
the chamber ready to go out, where it was going
to say something to the effect of, uh, Shadure Sanders
played badly, Lamar Jackson played worse. Headline, Oh Shadure Sanders
outduels Lamar Jackson, No, as Browns Like, That's what I
had ready to go because the Ravens looked terrible most
of that game. And thankfully, or you know, for my case,
(27:55):
Shadure Sanders looked like a guy who fell to the
fifth round for a reason. Yeah, he didn't not look
like an NFL quarterback. And if he has to start
next week, God held me. I betting on the Raiders.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Well, Lamar is still not running. Don't think he's one
hundred percent healthy. Four carries ten yards now. The Browns
defense is nasty. They had five sacks. Miles Garrett should
walk away with defensive Player of the Year. He had
four sacks again, and he had five tackles for loss.
Literally living in the backfield. I mean, he's unblockable at
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this point. And you know, it's a shame he's under
two and eighteen. If the Browns man if they were,
if they had any clue, Rob, they would trade him
and get a haul because somebody would overpay for him
to make a push to win the Super Bowl. That's
how good he is. And I don't know how many
Let's see Miles Garrett. Oh damn, he turns thirty.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
The window to trade him was was this this? Uh
this deadline?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I know, the trade when he demanded the trade was
the time to trade him. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I mean, listen, Jets, look what they got for Quentin Williams.
I mean, Miles Garrett is unbelievable and he's gonna fetch
more than Micah. Somebody should have made a big move.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Wow. Kind of a disappointment, all right, So.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You know, I do like this whole Who's gonna make
the Super Bowl? I think today in the NFC it
feels like Eagles. I'll say the Packers are on the
outside looking in. I'll say Eagles Rams are pretty much
clearly the two best. Seattle's right there too, and I
think the Niners could be with the offense AFC. I
(29:29):
don't want to hear any more of this chief stuff.
But at the same time, Rob, as you noted, like
Lamartin look good Ravens are are clawing back into the division.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Steelers are not good. Colts Denver. I don't even think
Denver's good.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I mean, I think we've actually got to think maybe
the New England Patriots could.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Get to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I guess I would go Buffalo Bills in the AFC today,
they beat up on Tampa. Josh Allen had like three
TV's pass, three TV's rushing. But this was this was
Tampa Bay thirty two to thirty one with like twelve
minutes left, So I had a Buffalo messing around. Then
you got now the key On Coleman was a healthy
scratch because he was late for some team meetings. I mean,
(30:13):
for the Bills to put up forty four points without
Dalton first aid, sorry Dalton, kid, Kate and Keon Coleman
is like, wait, really, I don't know if that says
the Bucks are bad or the Bills are waking up.
They got some guy Shavers who I'm not familiar with,
that an awesome touchdown catch, So I guess rob I
would go Bills.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
The AFC is so weird to handicap because if you're
thinking clearly, you would say the Colts and the Patriots.
Probably the Patriots have looked the best off season, Like
the Colts recently, especially Daniel Jones has really been on
the struggle bus last two or three weeks. Denver has
looked really bad. The Chiefs have been mediocre, the Bills
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have been inconsistent, and even though Baltimore is on a
four game winning streak, you can tell the haven't really
hit their stride yet, like they're they're still figuring it
out week by week. And you mentioned Lamar's look fully healthy.
The only problem is with the Colts and the and
the Patriots is you have no basis to feel good
about them in the postseason, like you have no reason
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to feel like Daniel Jones can do anything. We don't
know what Drake may is at this level yet he's
having an MVP caliber season. We don't know until he
gets there what it's gonna look like. And as weird
as it's gonna sound is again, I don't think the
Chiefs are any good. We don't know about the Ravens,
and the Bills have been inconsistent. The problem is when
you get to the playoffs and you have Lamar Jackson
(31:37):
versus Daniel Jones.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
You're probably gonna pick Lamar.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Yeah, you get to the playoffs and you have Bo
Nicks versus Josh Allen, You're probably gonna want to pick
Josh Allen. When you have Patrick Mahomes versus Drake May
that's probably the closest one, but you're probably gonna lean
Patrick Mahomes no matter what these teams have look like
in the regular season, because the quarterbacks from the other
teams are unproven and and it's it's just hard to
really go all in against with some of these teams.
(32:01):
The AFC and the nfciting has more clear. I think
it's Eagles and it's Eagles. Rams look like they're the
tow the best teams, the most complete teams. I will
lean Rams over Eagles. And to your point, last week
I had the Lions, but the if they have to
play outdoors in cold weather, that completely changed the calculus.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
The massive kryptonite for them. So listen. NFL is getting
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Speaker 2 (32:55):
They're horrific. The lights get bright and he shrinks. He
does have brock Bowers Cowboys getting healthier, and I just
wonder if and I don't know if Schottenheimer is the
kind of guy who could pull this off, but if
if you're talking to your team and you're like, guys,
look around. Everybody that needed to lose lost. We're right
(33:17):
there three five and one. Why can't why not us?
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Why can't we get to the playoffs?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I mean, currently Dallas is sitting in the eleventh spot,
but they will with a win, they'll pass the Vikings.
Carolina's not gonna stay there. I don't know how Carolina's ninth.
I mean, they did talk about smoking mirrors. And then
you look at the Dallas schedule and you're like, guys,
we have direct games against teams that we would need
(33:43):
to leap brog obviously, the Eagles I doubt will leap
them in the division.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
They're they're a lock. But we got we got the Lions.
We beat them, we can we can maybe overtake them.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
We play the Chiefs and it's at home, and it's
I think Thanksgiving Day, Yeah, Thanksgiving Day, and we got
the line. I'm sorry Allions and Vikings, and then you
trussed in a Commanders and a Giants. Those should be
too easy wins. I don't think Dallas is out of it,
but they have no room, Praerer. They gotta win this
and we'll see at the offense. So I'm on Cowboys
minus three, minus.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Three and a half. I don't know, Robi.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I can't make a case for your Raiders, but I'll
just say this. The Dallas defense it's pretty rotten. You
know that, we know that they can be had. I mean,
Jacoby Brissett was out there looking like Dan Fouts last
last Monday Night. So I think Cowboys are definitely gonna
let the Raiders hang around. But I'm just hopeful Dak
can lead the way to a convincing victory.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Yeah, I'm on Cowboys minus three. My Cowboys mins three
and a half and a couple of offshore illegal bookies.
I'm on Cowboys minus six and a half minus seven
and a half. Oh wow, I mean, it's like there's
nothing about this Raiders team that gives you any kind
of confidence. Gino Smith looks like the worst quarterback in
football or one of the worst quarterbacks in football. And
Dallas as bad as their defense as their offense can
score with anybody, and the top of off in my
(35:01):
not my big money fantasy league, but the league I
care most about because it's bunched a lot of like
elite Ball Nowhere type guys. I'm going against Jake Ferguson
and George Pickens, so of course they're both gonna go
off and they're gonna go to losing fantasy.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
But yeah, Dallas, big.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Real quick.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I am just curious because we didn't get a chance
to do NBA. I had some Austin Reeves hot takes
last week, you know, a little probably too spicy.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
I am curious Lebron expected back this week.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Your best guess on how Lebron fits with Reeves and
Luca and all the good vibes that are swimming around
the Lakers right now.
Speaker 5 (35:38):
I think it's gonna start off great. I think that
they're playing really well. I think if you listen to
Luca and Austin in the post game, they talk about
the chemistry being real high. DeAndre Aden went viral over
the weekend because it's you know, he's so excited about
being a Laker after that win against Milwaukee, and I
think he's gonna come in and not want to rock
the boat right away. He's gonna come in play a role.
It's gonna look really good, or the teams look really
(35:59):
good for a stretch, and then we'll see how it
goes if by Christmas this does start percolating again because
Lebron is no longer the central point, the focus of
the team.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, I mean I don't.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
I largely would agree with that. My only thing is
Reddick has known this was gonna happen for weeks. Reddick
is close with Lebron. I don't think there's any way
he's gonna say, like Lebron goes stand in the corner.
You know that he's not gonna let some nonsense like
this happen.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
I think the Lakers will figure it out.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I will also add, somebody smart said this to me, Hey,
just remember the Lakers schedule is backloaded because post Super Bowl,
the NBA is on TV a lot, and they want
the marquee teams Now, the Lakers a lot of New
Orleans and you beaten up on some bad teams. The
win over the Bucks was impressive. They were up thirty
at halftime and they were without Rui and Marcus Smart.
(36:54):
So like, I don't know, I'm optimistic, a rub I'm
just telling you I'm on record, assuming you know health
is there. I think the Lakers are top four seed
in the in the in the West.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Yeah, I'd a great I mean we we said that
on the NBA preview or even before the NBA preview episode,
like we we've been on the Lakers all off season
because we live in LA. But because it's like, how
would the straight face can you bet against Luka Doncic.
It's like, you don't say that about you know, I
know that the thunder have a great team. But if
you say, hey, I got the MVP or a top
(37:26):
five player in the league, I'm gonna fade them. Now,
I don't think you will. You had the top five
player in Jokic, You're gonna fade them. No, I don't
think you will. Jannis in the Marabound East with Kyle
Kuzma is the second best player. Nobody was like, hey,
let me take the under on Bucks win total. If
he's on the team, they're gonna win a lot of games.
Because he's that good. Lucas on the team, you'renna win
a lot of games.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Hey, I bet you can't answer this, don't look the
best record in the West is okay. See who has
a best record.
Speaker 4 (37:54):
In the East. The Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 3 (37:57):
Baby wow, okay is that his nickname?
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Somebody was calling that on Twitter. I thought it was funny.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Bro, he's looking good. Detroit like up significantly. It would
not shock me if they if they got the number
one seed. That's how good they look. By the way
the Bulls for anybody was like excited about them fading fast.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
Five losses in a row. Water finds its level. All right, long,
Monday Pod, we are bad. It's gonna be a good week.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I don't know the game plan for Thanksgiving week. I'm
assuming we'll have a Monday Pod and probably a Tuesday
after that.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I'm not sure. I know. We want to help you
guys out with
Speaker 2 (38:31):
The travel because a lot of people will be on airplanes,
long car rides with the family, just popping the earbuds,
popping some straight fire, get some winners, talk to you tomorrow.
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