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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female
homebuilder with a passion for design, a mastery of detail,
and a commitment to her crack. With daughter Samantha Stumpo
by her side, I don't need my whole.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Family on a date with me. That's a good note.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's goddamn weird.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
See.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company
in the country.
Speaker 5 (00:18):
You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, it just.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Doesn't end together.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of construction,
real estate, development, design and more.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Unpredictable.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Every time I think I know what you want, you'd
switch it out.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
But that's what makes your houses.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
All your day.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Discuss anything that happens between the roof and the foundation.
Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
She can yell at, you can scream, but when you
get her alone, she's the best person on the planet.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And welcome to Cindy Stumpbo Tough as Nails on WBZ
News Radio and I'm in the studio with who Samantha
and who's in the studio coming through on whatever this
is called all this technology crap? Brother Nelson, do you
have a less name?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (01:08):
Okay, you know your name sounds like a car.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
It sounds like car.
Speaker 5 (01:13):
What kind of car? It can only it can only
be three options though, so Rose Royce, the Lamborghini, and
the belly which one.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We don't get either.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
It can be like.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Sounds it sounds like a car out of Nigeria, right,
you know what it kind.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Of does, right, like a Pega.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, coming out of Nigeria. Okay, listen, what are we
talking about right now?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
We're talking about chatter. We're talking about chatter social?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
What is chatter social? You know, there's a whole country
out there that does not understand social audio. You do
you understand that? I think there's a plane that flies
around Texas and maybe in Florida. Otherwise Boston and many
of the states don't even know what social audio is.
So you're here to educate them.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So one hundercent social audio.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Well, we're we're creating We're creating a platform that that
we call social audio visual right real time experiences with
both audio and visual and essentially using that as a
way to make social networking more social, right, I mean
you think about like your experiences on Instagram or Twitter.
(02:24):
You know, you're liking pictures or you're retweeting tweets. You're
not necessarily getting to connect with people. You're not necessarily
getting to know people understand people.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
So I can kind of break it down a little bit.
So when I want to debate somebody in politics or whatever,
we can go live together on a screen and actually
look at each other in the eyes and go at
it instead of looking like trolls going at it on
a Twitter feed or an Instagram right, Like, I get
to look you in the eyes. You get to look
me in the eyes, which is I think personally that's
(02:53):
the fun part. But before we get more into social audio,
explain to the listeners who you are, how this started,
Who's the CEO, who's the founder? Bring us to light here?
Speaker 5 (03:04):
Well, you know Nelson and Pega. I'm twenty eight years old,
started off as a real estate investor. About eight years
ago when I was twenty, I think.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Or your baby ahead, I can't even Matthew.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Four years ago called Clubhouse, and this was a platform
that essentially.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Pushed the rise of social.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Audio, and on this platform, I ended up just falling
in love with the concept of using your voice to
connect with people, using your voice to market your product, right,
using your voice to be more social. Right, and you know, a.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Few months into but I couldn't well, you couldn't through COVID,
right because everybody was stranded. So that was a perfect launch,
perfect time for them, because I don't know. I worked
every day. We're essential you worked every day. I still
see social audio for me. For me, if I don't
(04:05):
want to run out or I can't sleep at midnight,
let's say and raise sound asleep to do He's off
in neving. I can always jump into a room and
hang out a bunch of people. I might like them,
I might not like them. I might debate them. I
might it might be a great conversation. It could be
six women in a room together and we have the
most awesome conversation. It could be three hundred people in
(04:26):
a room together. It could be a thousand people. It
doesn't matter. It's like you're never alone, if that makes
any sense. Like, if you don't want to be alone,
you don't have to be loan. You can be with
your kids, your husband and your wife, blah blah blah,
and sometimes you just need a break. And I just
find it's another way of Sometimes I always say this,
(04:46):
it's easier to talk to strangers than talk to people
that you know in your everyday life, which is very weird.
Speaker 7 (04:54):
That's how therapists make money.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Okay, Well, then.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
She's absolutely correct though. It's like again, and it's something new,
it's something fresh, and majority of people on a planet
don't know about it, right, I mean, just imagine how
many people are listening to us right now in their cars,
right on a radio station.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, think of.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
You being able to do that and being able to pause,
raise your hand and join this conversation in real time
as opposed to just listen. Right.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Think about watching.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Your favorite podcast like we all do on YouTube, or
watching our favorite streamers or just gamers or whatever, and
being able to again in real time interact with both
your voice and the option of going on camera. Right.
It takes social experiences to the next level and allows
(05:44):
for true connection. Right, Like you think about like the
friends of my life right now, all my best friends
I met from social audio, Jonathan Baning, Cindy Stumpo. I mean,
the list goes on and on and on social audio, right,
because again we're able to use the most authentic take
part of our selves as human beings, our voices, to
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really get to know one another.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Right, and yeah, I mean it's unlike anything I've.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
Ever seen in the world. Right, and chatter is building
on top of that framework and adding it to the
various elements of social media that we're currently used to today, right, podcasting, gaming,
short form videos, right, just all those various elements that
were already used to Okay, so just throwing that social
audio compona.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I still want to bring you back twenty eight years old.
You decided. I think I know how it went. The
other app will call it. We don't have to give
them any advertising the other app. Right, It's like when
I'm on I can't hold up this because I'm giving
them a free advertising. Anyways, with that being said, you
learned how to be a great, great moderator. Right. No
(06:50):
one can moderate the way you can. And I've been
in a ton of rooms. No one can live up
a crowd. You can dismantle people. You bring them up.
You're throwing them all over the place like rag dolls. Right,
But that's what makes it fun. So all of a sudden,
everybody's followers got removed. That was the start of it,
and you were like, We're like, well, well, what's going
on here. Everybody built up fifty sixty seventy thousand followers, boom,
(07:14):
all taken away. They changed their whole concept, and you said,
I'm going to go out, I'm going to do this,
I'm going to do this better than them. And that's
how it actually.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Started, right absolutely, so absolutely.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
As a guy that's just not getting into the tech world,
the difference is you're a guy that's actually been using
this app close to five years now. You see everything.
You see what people like, you see what people don't like.
You have learned actually from the outside in instead of
learning from the inside out. Right, So that's what makes
(07:50):
you good at what you're building here, because you know
what people want and you know what people don't want. Heck, guys,
we don't understand. They don't understand what the people looking
for you do. And I think that's going to be
the game changer here that you went from the outside
in and not the inside out as form in this company.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Absolutely and you know, I can say the same thing
for everyone on our team as well, right, all of us,
all of us. I mean, think about it, our cto Heraine.
I mean, he's been a million Marathon community member for years. Right,
he was among one of the first private beta testers
on Chatter. Right. You look at Kim Green, our marketing director.
She's been a million Marathon member for a long time,
(08:36):
even through to when.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
We migrated over to Twitter. You look at the whole team.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
You're talking about a team of individuals that are power
social audio users and have identified all the various flaws
in regards to how everyone else has done it. And
we're coming at this from that user perspective, right, that
perspective of individuals that use an application every single day
(09:00):
and know everything there is to know about it, right,
And it's the first time it's ever been done right,
users coming together to build out a product the right
way for the masses. And Yeah, I think I think.
I think the history books are gonna.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
All that thought, all that thought, we gonna go to break. Okay,
you listen to Cindy Stubbow Toughest Nails on WBZ. We'll
be right back.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Sponsored by floor in Decor, National Lumber and Village Bank.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
Let's get down, Let's get down to business. Give you
one more night, one more night to get this. We've
had a million million nights just like this. So let's
get down.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Let's get down and welcome back to Sidney Stubbo Toughest
Nails on WBZ, and I'm in the studio to night
with Samantha and.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Nel your actual child and your adopted child.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Oh my god, I got like, come on man, I
got shy, I got kid, I got Freddy. I don't
know and all I know, I'm a psychiatrist over there,
but I personally in the last close to it will
be four years November. I've made a lot of great
friends on there. I really have like women that I
talked to, guys I talked to as friends. But there's
(10:16):
Yvonne on there, There's ann on there. I mean, there's
so many I can keep naming. Danielle oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
No like that. I'll call and talk to them as women,
right that I would never have known Jonathan Daphney. I mean,
we've all got together in Florida, We've all socialized. I
(10:37):
mean it's a different experience, and the demographics of us
all age differently, and we just all grove together. This
is the crazy part. Right, you're twenty eight, you're younger
than Chad, so, but you're hanging out with forty year olds,
fifty year olds and sixty year olds. Right, So it's
just a different It's nothing like I've ever seen before.
(10:58):
I never thought that would exist, And now I thought,
I'm going to go meet people in Florida that I
don't know, but I that they're on my Instagram or
they're on my you know, Twitter, or they're on my LinkedIn. Right, Well,
LinkedIn's a little different because it's business.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
But I've heard you say time and time again, how
much you want.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
To go into your mic. You hear about your micro
I have.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
To see myself and do this. I've heard you save
time and time again. How much you learn from this app?
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Thousand percent? You learn human nature. That's what I've learned. Right,
I'm not going to learn a lot about my business,
let's say with real estate guys, right, but I learned
such more important things. I learned human nature. I learned
how to work around multiple personalities in a room. Nelson,
you're running rooms with thousands of people a million marathon,
(11:44):
mean you know now you're going to learn how to
groove with people. And here's the big one. If you
don't know how to groove with people on social audio,
how are you going to do it in the real world.
So it's a great it's a great learning experience to
come on, especially for the younger generation that's a little
shy or whatever. If you can come on there and
start to talk to people, and whether it's debating or
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whether it's a casual conversation, it starts to break you
out of your shell. Because if you can't do it
on there, you can't do it in real life. That's
my feeling. So I think it's a really good stepping stool,
a stepping stone for younger people to get more comfortable
with public speaking. Too.
Speaker 7 (12:23):
I think it makes people you.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Got a peepe you gotta do people, and it's gotta
do peep. I think, Okay, what are we three?
Speaker 7 (12:30):
Naturally vulnerable and want to be vulnerable, whereas most people
in the real world don't like to be vulnerable like that.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
So you think the app makes people a little bit
more vulnerable.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Yeah, Like how many times you said, like I've had
a bad day when I come on the app and
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, absolutely, So it gives me my moment after work
an eighteen hour a day, come home, have dinner with Ray,
spend some time with Ray. And you know my time
is like nine nine thirty to come on, right.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
But it only takes you to say that for everybody
else that if they're feeling that, to say that.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Too, correct, So they're not alone, right, So everybody, Look,
that's how I see social audio is it's all walks
of life, right. We all come from different countries that
come on there, we all have different background of religion, race,
and then you're going to end up with your own
like minded people. You're not going to you know, you
(13:17):
have a thing called an algorithm and you're in beta
testing right now. So take that from there. Let's talk
about the beta testing and the algorithm and explain to
people like if there's certain rooms you don't want to see,
you will not be seeing those rooms.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
No, absolutely, I mean just everything Cindy said is just factual, right,
And I mean you usually call you think about like
the rinds of the internet before before the Internet, where
you going to network with people? Where are you going
to meet people? Right? It's I mean you don't have
the Internet, right, so.
Speaker 7 (13:51):
You're limited to your.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
An immediate ecosystem. I think someone's got to go. You're
you're limited to your immediate network of people that you
meet on a day.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
To day or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 5 (14:02):
The Internet broadens that horizon, right, Chatter, social audio, visual,
I mean expands it significantly. And now it's like, you know,
going to the bar to talk to twenty people, but
it's like now you're talking to twenty people in different
parts of the world, right, who have similar likes and
interest with you. You're a finance guy, is a finance person.
(14:22):
I'm in Boston, this one's in La that.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
One's in Dubai, blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
And these people meet, they meet in real life, they
do business with each other. I mean, I was just
looking on Donovan's Instagram the other day. Him and Adam
Elish are now boyfriend girlfriend. He lives in DC, she
lives in Toronto. They met on chatter. Now he was
in Toronto last weekend, right, Like this stuff is crazy again.
Real time authentic connections on the Internet can only be.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Done on social audio, point blank period.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Right. You cannot connect with anybody by liking their photos.
Those two would not be boyfriend girlfriend by liking their
photos commenting, oh you look hot.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
It just doesn't work like that, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
So it's no, okay, no, we think it's some creepy
dude that's saying you look cut right, So that don't
like that?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Right on, well, on shatter. If the person's creepy, first
of all, they're going to say out creepy. Second of all,
they can.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Go on camera and then they're gonna look creepy, and
then we'll figure out you're creepy, and then you need
to get a camera because you're too creepy for us.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Right, like, beta, So we started we started beta what
June first, We had about thirty days of private beta
with about one thousand users. We started public beta July eleventh,
so it's about twelve weeks right now, and we're over
thirty two thousand users already, right and you know, again
beta again.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
How many okay, but how many waiting to get in
on the app? Right now? We have we had thirty
two thousand active users, and how many are we holding
back from letting in right now that you're holding back?
Speaker 5 (15:52):
So thirty two thousand total users okay, about sixteen thousand
in the app with invites and the rest of them
are waiting.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
To get an invite to get into the app, and.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
That's what's your reason for holding them back? Sorry, what's
the reason for not just letting the floodgates open and
let everybody in? Because right now, it's all by invitation.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Yeah, of course, Because like we're startup, right, and we're
growing much faster than the average startup. Right, you need
to have funding, and you need to have a large
team in order to be able to manage all of
these things and all these users.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
I mean you look at Facebook and Instagram. These guys
have like thousands of people on their development team. Right.
We need to be able to scale to that point,
and we need to be able to control our growth
so we can focus on making a platform faster, making
a platform feel better, less bugs, less glitches, and then
when we get to a point where we feel comfortable
with the performance of the platform, then we open it
(16:48):
up to everybody else. As we raise funding, then we
speed it up and market and just you know, blow
this thing up and really bring bring bring it to
the world's attention.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Now, if I remember, right, we we I don't mean me,
but we're talking about we because you're in the studio
right now. You we're going to wait till after January
to launch it. And then you were on it and
you were just playing around with grand cardon a few people,
and he said to you, listen, what are you hiding
this from the world for? Bring it out? So you
brought out earlier than planned. And I got to be honest,
(17:23):
for how fast you brought this out. From from the
time you started this to the time that you exposed
it to us in beta testing, you were how many
months into this?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Oh my god Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Maybe nine months.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
That's nine fast.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
That was fast.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Sorry, twelve month October.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Is where do you go?
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Where do you go?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Nelson?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
You're there right here.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
We disappeared, but we're in a studio where I get
a lot of finger movements, like I'm supposed to understand
all the finger movements. Andrew again, when you do that?
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, I know, hilarious.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I think, Andrew, give me out with it.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
But what go ahead? You're good to go?
Speaker 5 (18:04):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, man, it's it's just it's just crazy.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
You know, this thing start off as a joke, you know,
literally start off as a joke, and a in a
in a room on another app right and people on
the stage. I mean there was probably like I don't
know a thousand people in that room, and a bunch
of people from the community were like, Nelson, why don't
you just go build a platform, Why don't you just
go build a platform? And we were all just laughing
it off. And you know, that night I couldn't go
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to sleep, so thank.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You, no you go, I'm sorry, but I have us
because you'll run my clock real fast and go back
to break. Here's my ques. So we're on Instagram live
right now, so Andrew's got everything going. I want people
on Instagram to understand they're on live right now, but
they could be on social. They could be in chat
of social and be literally talking right So when we're
(18:53):
live on Saday nights in the studio and we're not
pre taping, they can join the conversation. I can leave
the studio and come right on and speak to them
on chatter and carry on my conversation.
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Under I mean, right now, there's like I don't know
sixty some people in a chatter room that can literally
unmute their mic right now and join this.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
And I want them to do that. We're gonna do that.
So we're gonna go for a break and I'm on
that two seconds. Give me, give me a second to
get out. You're listening to Cindy Stumpo Samantha Stumpo on
What Sammy w V the news radio Temper and we'll
be right back.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
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Speaker 6 (19:28):
Next day Molding and Kennedy Carpet came.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Back and welcome to Cindy Stumpo, Tapess Nails on WBZ
News Radio. And I'm in here. I'm in the studio
(20:08):
with your daughter and her name is Sammy and we're
talking to Nelson. Nelson. Let's go and asked and asked
us a question? Asked?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Asked?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Asked? I said, as for a minute, I don't say act. Okay,
let's get that straight. I say, asked no ends of
the day. Okay. I've been hanging out with them for
too long. Okay, And asked a question. Funniest story between
you and I in the last four years?
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Wow, funny story. It had to be sometime that you
cussed me out to be it has.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
To be when you text her on a Sunday saying,
who are you cussing out today? Because it's not me.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
No, no tuning up. That's always says. He says, what
gets up your ass on a Sunday morning?
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Can't say that word?
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yes I can, and that you just tune up? Everybody
like why are you coming after me? And what do
I say?
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Absolutely, She's just like Sundays are the days where I
have the most time because I'm busy during the week,
so Sundays that's when I can think of process and
cuts you out. That's what she says.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Ridiculous. I don't get it, Like it just doesn't make
any sense.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You know it does.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
You're not her child, and I deal with that my
whole life thirty seven years.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So they all get it. So if you get it
really bad, then I kind of go easier with Samantha
and Chad. If they get it bad, I go easier
with you. Then I throw Sear in the mix and
she gets it.
Speaker 7 (21:30):
Imagine going out the night before and then waking.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Up to that because I do it because I love
you guys, and I just want you all to realize
you're young and that you don't know as much as me,
and I just want you to be really good human beings.
That's what really comes down to cool absolutely. I care
about raising good human beings and Nelson falls with that category. Okay,
now that we're past that, and yes that's our Sunday
(21:54):
mornings more often than less. So go ahead, keep going
with you what you're talking about. So what is your
future for this company? And I know I've asked you
hold on, I know I'll asked you, come on else
if it's worth a couple of billion, never gonna sell.
And you keep telling me no, I will, I will
not sell nothing, no, not, Well then you're not in
I'm not.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
I'm not going to say like I'll let go of
some stock. Of course, you know, bring in some cash,
but no, I'm not gonna I'm not going to sell.
Like this is this is truly my passion. Like I
can work on anything chatter related for hours and hours
on end without going to bed. I mean, you've been
on some calls and be like two two three the boarding.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
One morning you want to get on calls my phone
stack and then I'll be in a room. Right, let's say,
go start a room or go do this and go
do this And he's like, Mama, get out of that room.
Now I need to talk to you, dude. I'm in
the room. I'm not leaving the room. Get so by
the time you get out the room now it's one
third in the morning, and he wants to have a
three hour conversation because he's going to stay up to
talk to London.
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Where do you think he learned that from me?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I like that, Sammy. What you always say, money doesn't sleep.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
No, but no, but seriously, I don't see myself selling
this company, and I.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Truly believe in it. Never say never, No, I'm not
going to.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I truly believe, I act, truly believe this will be
This will be the next evolution of social media, point
blank period. Connecting with people with your voice of course,
having all the video components that everyone's used to and
bridging both of those things together. I think that will
change social media, point blank period. And there's definitely a
(23:35):
space for it, and we will be the front runners
of that space.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
And please let everybody know that you've been self funding
this from day one, and this is very expensive to sell.
Fun you got no VC guys behind you right now,
you have no investors behind you right now, zero zero checks.
So he are twenty years old. It's a lot of
mental stress, you're working around the clock, had a baby,
(24:01):
right is there ever? And the greatest thing about Nelson
is I say it all the time. He's got a
heart and in life that's all you need, buddy, is
a heart.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Right.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
I know when you get sense of I know, look
at competitors gonna come at you. People are gonna hate
on you. Welcome to the real world of success. Period.
But you know what, what people don't understand and they'll
never understand the hard work, tenacity, the nights that you
go to sleep alone in your own head and you're thinking,
you're thinking, you might have a wife next to you
(24:33):
to talk to, but you're still alone in your own brain.
And then one day you're gonna wake up and everything
I've told you and for the last four years, it'll
resonate little by little by little. Right, So just stay
with this saying that my father said to me when
I was twenty years old, exactly your age. Actually, come
to think of it, Cindy, when they stop talking about you,
(24:55):
you're a nobody. So until then you're a somebody. So
you got to learn to take those hits and we
got to learn to brush it off. Right. Sometimes I
personality is really hard. As you saw me on a
group text of that guy going after his jugular and
you came in and you were like, hey, hey, hey,
what's going on here? Right? It's usually any of that
comes in right behind me. Right. So he handled it
(25:15):
really well and I didn't handle it well at all.
So but that's just what it is. People that care
about your app, people that care about you are going
to stay supportive. People that jealous of you and unkind
let the algorithm drop them down to it. They need
to be dropped down, superiod. That's what's going to happen.
Good content, good content providers. People that are rocking it,
(25:38):
they're going to build their rooms, and people that aren't
are not going to build. So just touch upon that.
But I just want you to know you're twenty years old.
Sometimes it's hard to take the hits out there at
twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
No, absolutely, absolutely, And you know, I mean this isn't
something that I've been used to like my whole life,
you know, I mean earlier when I was a kid,
I mean I was an introvert. I didn't become an
extrovert until you know, i'd be a content creator.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
I didn't know all.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, on the.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
Other platform, I truly was. I was an introvert, you know,
and you know, get into my extrovert phase and creating
all this content with thousands and thousands of people, and
then and then you start getting the hits, right, you know,
people saying things about you, people coming after you.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
People discrediting you.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
You start seeing that side of things which I never
thought about before.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And it's it's just a learning process for me.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Right. Every time I go through something like that, it
it makes me tougher and the next time I go
through something similar, just you know, not as effective as
I was initially.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
But if I had to give you, I'll give you
one to ten from you being a ten ultrasense of
you're now a seven, we're going to get you to
or three. That's the college.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
I agree with that. I agree with that. I'll say
I was a ten maybe two years ago, I was
a ten. Now I'm like a seven. I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, we got to get down too. But you know,
we brought you up the other day because we're talking
about things parents say to their kids. Yeah, to make
them be hungry, you know, and have a burning desire
to be successful.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
A little bit scary right, And what is it, Sam,
to scare your kid a little bit?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Scare your kid a little bit, you know, not beat
them up? But so I asked it yesterday. So Sam
said to a friend of Oz, what made you do this?
He said, he's thirty and he's opening up his eighth
company right now is franchise. Sam said, what made you
be this successful at thirty years old? Blah blah blah.
He said, I don't know. My father's all tell me
he's going to break my fingers and run me over.
(27:36):
But the point was.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
Why did I have to break my fingers first and
then run me over?
Speaker 5 (27:40):
Well?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Did he just run me over? Was he going to
break my fingers for? And then we said, well, we
have a friend that his parents use to tell him,
if you don't get an education, Niger, you're going to
go work at McDonald's, right and seam over right. And
I used to tell Sammy, I'm dropping you off from
Broadway Review and you're going to get a job at okay,
and it really not such a great deia, right.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
So I'm going to get you a job there, leave
you there and you figure out how to get home.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yeah, exactly, Okay, how to get back home to you know,
pretty Newton, Massachusetts over there chest un hind insight.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
I don't know why I believed her, because she didn't
even let me like take the tyr drive a car
without talking to her every which way.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
But you do believe, so in your brain, you're like,
in Nigeria, I'm gonna get out here again education and
I'm not ever gonna work for McDonald's.
Speaker 7 (28:23):
Right.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
That was just that everybody's got a scary thought. We
should all put those things into our kids. We're going
to do. I don't know we're gonna send you?
Speaker 7 (28:32):
What was your plan?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And then I asked, I asked, Nelson, what are you
gonna tell your kids one day, because I'm gonna bring
them to Nigeria. What are you say?
Speaker 5 (28:40):
They're gonna go see their great grandma she's still.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
There by the way, yeah grandma.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Oh no, your great grandmother? Right, Okay, but but your
parents go back there and you say, what send them
to Nigeria? They have no a C what else?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Listen, it's it's it's it's a it's a harder life,
and I feel like it makes you tougher, right, having
that experience.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Okay, right, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
The way I'm going with this is that young kids
not kids' kids. But you have an area for younger kids.
But when you stop bringing on eighteen nineteen year olds.
Christina is great, right, she's only now. She's been on
social media for four years. She's learned so much, so
much on there, and she had a great mentor. But
(29:30):
we need younger people to come in and listen to
the older people to grab those values. That's what you did, Nelson,
in the last four or five years. You've been hanging
out with people older and wiser and listening. There in
lies the difference of most people. When you start on
the other app. We won't use the word you are
only twenty four years old. Period. Oh wow, you're twenty four.
(29:53):
But we're going to break call that thought. I'm sitty
stumbling you listen Toughest Nails on WBZ News and we'll
be right back.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
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Speaker 1 (30:11):
I don't need no negative run high frequency.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
And welcome back to Cindy Stumbo Toughest Nails on WBZ
News Radio, and I'm Cindy.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
I'm Samantha, and I'm Nelson Pecker.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Okay, take it from there. I got a fan that's
outside that they can let them and tell them to
let her tell let her in for a picture. Please.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
You have a fan outside your studio right now?
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, because she's related to somebody in the studio. Yeah,
this happens a lot. Don't want to tell you about.
But she's a young girl. So Andrew let her in
to grab a picture while you guys are talking, I'm
multitask here. Okay, go ahead. Do you want me asking
now the question or you want to take it from here, Nelson,
because every time you're in my studio, you feel like
was the guy that walked by I would blonde here.
(31:01):
Andrew's a guy went that way. He's got a girl.
He wants to bring it. Go ahead, I'm doing three
things that once. Dude, I know men can't do this,
but women can. Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Is this the last scene?
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, you're in the last scene of your movie. Yeah,
we're in the last episode. Good.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Yeah, I mean, guys, very simply listen, man chatter social,
I mean, everything that we've talked about, right, and if
it's if there's anything that interests you, go check it
out right, go to the app store, go to the
play store.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Well, let's explain that to people. Some people don't understand that.
How do they get in?
Speaker 5 (31:37):
Okay, so you're gonna need an invite? Okay, but fear not.
All you need to do download Chatter Social from the
app or the play store and just message us on
Twitter or Instagram if you need an invite and you
don't have one, I'm gonna give Cindy a bunch of
invites to give out.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Maybe I'm in thirty Okay, I'm in thirty two states. Right,
you understand that. Can't there be a thing in there
called Cindy.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Called Ross Ross Ross Fross will hook come up?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Oh my producer, the producers, I don't know two d
chows out of here. This is gonna be an easier
like I'm friends with Cindy. Heard you on the radio.
Bah bah bah, there's gonna be something. And by the way,
you need to know where your people coming in from.
Did you come from Google, did you come from this?
Did you come from that? Did you come from Twitter?
You should actually know we're new people coming in from
(32:30):
so you need to set that up somehow.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
No, absolutely, but yeah, guys.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Yeah, you can download it any of the stores and
to get an invite. If you don't know anyone that's
in the app, just messages on Instagram and Google at
Chatter underscore us and somebody will be able to get
you an invite. But if you want to jump on
there now and have conversations with me and a bunch
of other people like Cindy on a daily basis.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, nightly, I'm nightly. I'm not doing nightly. I'm too
busy running three hundred guys during the day.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Go ahead, But then it depends, right, because you know
you have that room that you like to visit every night,
you know that debate the news, you know, Jonathan Bang
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
So I have my favorite rooms. We all have our
favorite rooms.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I do.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
I like to debate Jonathan because I like to like
really go at him high and he goes like like,
but again, at the end of the day we are friends.
And then I like my Freddie room and I like
my Porscha Bell's room. I like my rooms. There certain
rooms I go to. I love chat. So there's rooms
that I will go to that I know I'm comfortable
and I like the people in them, and Again, that's
(33:35):
figuring out where you have like minded people with you, right,
So when you have that, like Ramona's room, I used
to love her on the other app, right, I don't
see Ramona doing as much, so she's like in the
middle of like transferring over from the other app to
this app. But yeah, when you're with like minded people
that you like, I know your generation calls it mindset.
(34:00):
What's those two words I really hate?
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Manifest Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Let me I'm manifesting right now. I'm twenty two years old. Again,
I'm younger than Nelson. Did it happen?
Speaker 7 (34:08):
It's kind of like what my networking does, but you've
done it on a larger scale, right, So you all
genuinely care about each other and want to help each other.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Definitely, there's a lot of us that actually really do
care about each other. Like yesterday, I'm telling Sammy, you
need to send five hundred dollars to Reel. She's oh,
I tried, okay, And then Ian's texting me her information
and sam can't find it. And Ian is in the
whole Harry Kane nightmare over there, right, So she needs donations.
(34:38):
But that's what happens. You get to know people on there,
and you want to help them. She's stuck, she's stranded,
She's trying to get out. Ian's sending me the information.
Sammy's yelling a scream and I can't find this person. Well,
what do you want me to do? She goes by
reel real what I don't know?
Speaker 7 (34:56):
And I screen recorded, I typed it every which way.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
And then Ian's sending me messages. Okay, Samila's gonna shoot
both of us, right like, you can't make this stuff up.
But the bottom line is, Nelson, how many people on
the other app do you think you, all of us
throughout the years gave away in money to help people.
Everybody gets that. By the way, God, I can't remember.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
I could talk about the biggest one. The biggest one
ever did this was.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
A lady, Shanquilla Robinson.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
I believe, a young lady. She got killed in Mexico
and we all happen to be in a room where
we're running our daily, our nightly show. And I think
somebody came up on a stage and brought it up
or something, and in that room live. I mean, we
literally all contributed to the gofundmeate. And I think at
thirty minutes, we raised over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
And I think that was the day that Cindy came in.
(35:46):
I made you put in like what eight thousand.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
And I got the phone call in Florida, Hey, need
you get in this room. I'm like, I'm get in
this room. Okay, jump in the room. Cost me eight
thousand dollars to jump into a room, right, can make it?
Speaker 5 (35:58):
Yeah? Because it's like, I mean that right there that night,
that night showed me the power of this space.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
Right, I mean, just imagine that a thousand people that
the world, that was all over the world. But that
was the biggest together.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Okay, but that might have been the biggest and one
sum lump sum. But how many seven nights before Christmas?
Twelve nights before Christmas we gave away money this that
I mean, it's been hundreds of thousand dollars and no
one even recognized that. No one even took on the
other app said hey, thank you. The families did, but
(36:34):
the people that own that app they never once thank
you for that, which to me is insane. Okay, most
people that raise one hundred and fifty thousand for something
they want public you know, oh the newspapers to pick
it up. We just did it. To do it. No,
you got like little credit for that, but you did it.
You weren't even looking for the credit. Most people that
(36:55):
donate they want the limelight after they donate or do
something like that. And again, I mean, we've helped a
lot of people after we could confirm that they need
the help we did. This was years Nelson doing this.
I think you're why can't I remember better than you?
That's a problem.
Speaker 5 (37:13):
It's a lot of mean, come on, it's a lot
of nights, yeah, and it's a lot of memories.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Did a lot of last minute gofunding accounts a lot.
Ask Jonathan, he'll remember he can remember everything absolutely absolutely. Again,
the power of social audio the power because if we
didn't hear Reel's voice and real time and she'd just
be another whatever. But then real time talking face to face,
(37:40):
you get to know people. Now you've got that empathy
to want to help people, right, and everybody falls on
some type of hard times and there'll always be the
givers out there and they'll always be the takers. You're
never gonna stop. And there are people that even people
if you remember that night, they were giving five dollars
ten dollars, right, because they could give what they could
(38:01):
afford to give. Period. Doesn't make my eight thousand any
different than somebody gives ten dollars. They're giving what they
can give, and that's what makes it great. Had some
really great communities.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
By the way, again, it's fostering authentic connections, right, And
the only way you could do that is with the
most authentic tool. Each of us, as human beings, possess
our voices, right, that's literally the most authentic tool we have,
you know. And yeah, just so many amazing things have happened,
(38:34):
and so many more amazing things will happen in the
future as we continue to grow this platform, Chatter social,
so many many many more memories will be made, will
be created, and so many more friendships, so many more relationships, right,
And yeah, I'm here for it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And absolutely I heard like a couple weeks ago, I
think I heard it from Freddy. He said Sammy came
into an astrology room with something and she woke it
up like she was like, did you enjoy that room? Sammy?
Of course, because you like astrology, I do, right, chat,
he should be absolutely doing golf rooms on Chatter absolutely
(39:09):
on thousand percent. Kid's amateur pro. There's no one on
there doing anything with golf. And Sammy hr likes her.
You know, real estate obviously that she does, but her
hobby is astrology, so people love that, you know. And
she's like, I go to sleep at nine o'clock. I
got to wake up. I gotta be at hot yoga
at four o'clock in the morning. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(39:31):
She's so set in the way.
Speaker 5 (39:33):
Okay, So that's why she doesn't join us at night.
She goes to sleep at nine o'clock.
Speaker 7 (39:37):
Because if I, if I miss my will to fall asleep,
then my heart's racing and I'm like, it's like another
exercise for me, and then I can't sleep because she runs.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Her life off that oop whoop, whoop. There it goes, whoop,
there it goes. Anything else you want to tell us
in twenty seconds before you go for break that you love.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Ladies, gentleman, download Chatter, Social app store, Place Door.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
It's supposed to say that last fifty seconds.
Speaker 5 (40:02):
I thought you said it was fifty seconds.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Fifty seconds, No, no, no, now you just go Now you
just ate your time up. Now you gonna go for
breaking you back. You're listening to City Stumpo.
Speaker 7 (40:11):
And Manleson on w b ZERS.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
We'll be right back on the move and it's a
(40:41):
City Stumpo Toughest Nails. I like to thank Nelson Pega
for coming on the show. Nelson, you got forty seconds
and leave me five seconds to get out.
Speaker 5 (40:50):
No, yes, go ahead, Gallo Chatter social as a p
get an invite either tag me Cindy Chatter messages on Instagram.
Twitter will be able to get you an invite. Yeah,
jump jump on chatter, especially if you're going to meet
and connect and hang out with people like us on
a daily, nightly, weekly, whatever basis. Right, it's a brand
(41:12):
new experience and yeah, I'm pretty sure you guys will
be amazed with what you find.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
I love you, I love you too, Ma, Sabe, Sam
May Figure, everybody have a great, safe weekend and we'll
see you next week. This is Cindy Stumpo Toughest Nails
on WBZ News ten thirty